[00:00] <clivejo> it working ok?
[00:01] <mparillo> Yes, but I was already on 5.10 from the staging-plasma PPA.
[00:01] <clivejo> ah
[00:02] <mparillo> But the package names changed from -ppa1 to -ubuntu1 (I think).
[00:04] <clivejo> just wondered if it had migrated fully yet
[00:06] <mparillo> There is probably some way of grepping my package names for ppa1
[00:08] <clivejo> there are a couple of new packages in 5.10 too
[00:08] <clivejo> which need uploaded by MOTU
[00:10] <mparillo> If I dpkg -l | grep ppa1, it looks as if kde-config-screenlocker and libkscreenlocker5:and64 are returned.
[00:11] <mparillo> now that I have this handy command, do you know the names of some of the new packages?
[00:11] <ahoneybun> clivejo: could you give me a list of the new packages?
[00:12] <clivejo> can't recall right now, probably on the 5.10 release notes
[00:12] <ahoneybun> well we might have different names
[00:12] <clivejo> its 1:12am here and my brain has gone to sleep
[00:14] <mparillo> So I might have jumped the gun again editing https://phabricator.kde.org/w/kubuntu/packaging/status/ 
[00:15] <mparillo> At least for these new packages that might not have been uploaded and kde-config-screenlocker and libkscreenlocker5:and64 that are still from ppa1
[00:16] <clivejo> mparillo: can you go over to kde.org and find the release page
[00:16] <clivejo> should say on there the new packages
[00:17] <mparillo> I did not see it on the announce page, and there is too much detail here: https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.9.5-5.10.0-changelog.php
[00:17] <clivejo> New in this release
[00:18] <clivejo> xdg-desktop-portal-kde
[00:18] <clivejo> plymouth kcontrol module
[00:20] <mparillo> Thank you. Yes  I see it. And, assuming they always use "New in", those are the only two.
[00:21] <mparillo> Only two in the change log: https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.9.5-5.10.0-changelog.php
[00:21] <clivejo> they usually put it in the release notes
[00:21] <clivejo> or maybe its the email to packagers that mention it
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[00:22] <mparillo> I do not see it in the release notes (if that is the same thing as the announcement (https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.10.0.php))
[00:24] <clivejo> I think it was hurried this time, maybe forgot about
[00:25] <clivejo> src packages are xdg-desktop-portal-kde and plymouth-kcm
[00:25] <clivejo> thanks to Ovi One's search on the staging page - http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/plasma/build_status_5.10.0_artful.html
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[00:31] <clivejo> time for bed, night all
[00:32] <mparillo> Good night. The clock might have me five hours behind you, but my bed will only be a couple of hours later.
[01:03] <valorie> the changelog was linked to on the announcement: https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.9.5-5.10.0-changelog.php
[01:07] <cyphermox> ahoneybun: mostly trial and error, I didn't go dig much; just tried to run debuild until it built successfully.
[01:07] <cyphermox> mostly you want a full, valid html document, except for one of the slides apparently, where somehow that doesn't work
[01:08] <cyphermox> (could be that there's something else at play, like things being collated into another document, since there's some weirdness with the title bars and such
[01:08] <cyphermox> test building before upload is a good idea anyway
[01:21] <IrcsomeBot1> <ahoneybun> acheronUK has been doing that for me but it keeps yelling about an unexpected </div>
[01:21] <IrcsomeBot1> <ahoneybun> Even tho tidy tells me it's valid and ok html
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[01:50] <ahoneybun> oh right cyphermox^
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[07:34] <santa_> good morning everyone
[07:35] <santa_> acheronUK: hey, I'm staging plasma 5.10 for zesty, I also plan to finish the apps things asap
[07:37] <acheronUK> santa_: cool. I was thinking of that, although maybe not actually push 5.10 to backports ppa until it hits .1 or .2 for stability
[07:38] <acheronUK> although although clive make an interesting suggestion of having a kubuntu-edge or kubuntu-new ppa that people could opt into
[07:38] <santa_> acheronUK: well, that should be the backports
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[07:38] <santa_> that's the purpose of backports, getting newer version than the official archive
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[07:38] <santa_> * versions
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[07:39] <acheronUK> santa_: yes, but maybe not pushing initial point releases
[07:39] <acheronUK> especially when bugfix rollout is rapid at the start of a plasma version
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[07:40] <santa_> well, I don't think that would be a wise strategy
[07:40] <santa_> as I said if there's no eveidence that they are important issues we should release kde software as kde releases it
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[07:41] <santa_> also that would deny the ammunition for some unfair criticism out there ;)
[07:41] <acheronUK> santa_: maybe. my default position is to err on the side of caution, but I take your point and am persuadable :)
[07:42] <acheronUK> I do like the idea of the -edge or -new ppa though
[07:42] <santa_> we already have backports-landing
[07:43] <acheronUK> for stuff like peruse, latte-dock, systemdgenie, trojita etc which we know work ok, but are not in archive to 'backport' yet
[07:43] <acheronUK> + some others
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[07:44] <santa_> well, we can put them in the backports ppa anyway
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[07:45] <acheronUK> santa_: as we also suffer not being able to offer things like that which Neon/arch etc with full control of their package archive can offer in short order
[07:45] <santa_> but we have full control of our ppa's
[07:45] <santa_> right now our lack of permissions problem is limited to the official archive
[07:45] <acheronUK> backporst feels wrong for those, but again I am persuadable to do things a bit different than has maybe been in the past
[07:46] <santa_> and we are dealing with it reasonably well
[07:46] <santa_> backports is ok for things which are not in the archive too
[07:47] <acheronUK> santa_: I think so, but think past policy has not been that. 
[07:47] <santa_> well, from a pedantic point of view, they aren't "backports"
[07:47] <acheronUK> or not recently anyway
[07:48] <santa_> I think we should focus on getting our stuff done, rather than being stuck in a pedatic theorical world ;)
[07:48] <santa_> if that's not the policy, let's change the policy
[07:50] <acheronUK> I would, but I'm just thinking of users expectations for what backports contains
[07:50] <acheronUK> but no, we should not be afraid to change things
[07:51] <santa_> backports ~ newer software than the regular release
[07:53] <acheronUK> indeed, just trying to think things through, instead of just cramming everything new in there
[07:53] <acheronUK> not that that is wrong :P
[07:54] <acheronUK> personally I would do 'all new and shiny' --> backports
[07:55] <acheronUK> santa_: anyway, gotta go for now. back in a few hrs likely
[07:56] <santa_> ack, have a nice day
[08:00] <acheronUK> santa_: before I go, FYI: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=380356
[08:00] <ubottu> KDE bug 380356 in discover "snap backend - library name and location too generic (usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libSnapClient.so)" [Normal,Unconfirmed]
[08:00] <acheronUK> as request by APW on release team
[08:00] <acheronUK> either need KDE to patch that, or us do one
[08:01]  * acheronUK grumbles
[08:01] <acheronUK> right going.....
[08:03] <santa_> thanks for pointing that out
[08:05] <acheronUK> santa_: oh, and I disabled a test in kscreelocker and kwin that failed on ubuntu infra, but passed in LXC
[08:05] <acheronUK> must make a not of those somewhere
[08:05] <acheronUK> disabled for now, but want to look at why and if they can be re-enabled with 5.10.1 .2 etc
[08:06] <acheronUK> I am REALLY going now!
[08:06] <acheronUK> bye
[08:07] <santa_> ok
[08:34] <soee_> can someone with Plasma 5.10 reproduce and post a comment to confirm https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=380386 ?
[08:34] <ubottu> KDE bug 380386 in Task Manager "Task manager items icons are aligned different when sound indicator is rendered" [Normal,Unconfirmed]
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[10:03] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[10:03] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[10:03] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[11:10] <mparillo> It looks as if all of Plasma 5.10 from the AA Archive has entirely replaced the PPA versions. dpkg -l | grep ppa1 returns nothing. Yesterday, there were two packages.
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[11:11] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[11:16] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:18] <IrcsomeBot1> <acheronuk> @mparillo, yes, it's all landed :)
[11:18] <IrcsomeBot1> <ahoneybun> \o/
[11:21] <IrcsomeBot1> <ahoneybun> thanks for hitting up G+ with the good news too, I know you don't like it
[11:22] <IrcsomeBot1> <acheronuk> G+ is not so bad. It's facebook I really hate and avoid at all costs
[11:22] <IrcsomeBot1> <ahoneybun> oh right
[11:22] <IrcsomeBot1> <ahoneybun> just poke mparillo
[11:23] <IrcsomeBot1> <ahoneybun> I think they have access
[11:24] <IrcsomeBot1> <acheronuk> @ahoneybun, you said that on -devel, so I guess you just 'poked' 😝
[11:24] <IrcsomeBot1> <ahoneybun> 😆
[11:24] <mparillo> I do. I can do FB and Twitter (if not there already).
[11:25] <IrcsomeBot1> <ahoneybun> I've retweeted Rik's tweet under the Kubuntu account
[11:25] <IrcsomeBot1> <ahoneybun> could use a post on Facebook
[11:26] <mparillo> I will do this morning, even though I already showered.
[11:27] <IrcsomeBot1> <ahoneybun> damnn lol
[11:33] <IrcsomeBot1> <ahoneybun> https://minifree.org/product/libreboot-t400/
[11:33] <IrcsomeBot1> <ahoneybun> darn thing looks like it's from the 90's
[11:40] <IrcsomeBot1> <acheronuk> O_O
[11:41] <IrcsomeBot1> <acheronuk> bit busy today... back later I hope
[12:03] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_stable_kexi build #35: STILL UNSTABLE in 57 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_stable_kexi/35/
[12:43]  * mamarley kicks LP.
[12:50] <mparillo> The Libreboot t400 looks just like a thinkpad.
[12:55] <kfunk> "T400" suggests that :)
[12:58] <mparillo> I wonder if they sought permission from Lenovo first?
[13:00] <mamarley> I would guess they are probably just reselling used T400s with LibreBoot preinstalled.
[13:00] <mparillo> I happily install Linux on refurbished T-Series laptops, but I do not see anywhere that they are refurbished.
[13:01] <mparillo> Oh: The Libreboot T400 is a modified ThinkPad T400 containing reconditioned parts, with libreboot and GNU+Linux preinstalled.
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[13:04] <mparillo> But my last Refurb T410 was 150 USD, and their T400 starts at 248 Euro
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[18:18] <crissi-> hm... how to enable vcs support on custom makefile project?
[18:53] <clivejo> ok thats weird, my menus have gone in kmail and kate
[18:54] <clivejo> hi Ovi One
[19:03] <clivejo> !info qtvirtualkeyboard unstable
[19:03] <ubottu> Package qtvirtualkeyboard does not exist in unstable
=== ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube
[19:15] <ahoneybun> clivejo: acheronUK https://plus.google.com/+NitruxInside/posts/YMXqDbEsrnb
[19:59] <LuckyTheTester2> Hello
[19:59] <LuckyTheTester2> Is anyone on?
[20:00] <LuckyTheTester2> Hello, This is Lucky if anyone can see this.
[20:01] <LuckyTheTester2> Please Answer.
[20:01] <LuckyTheTester2> Anyone?
[20:01] <mamarley> Don't ask to ask, just ask.
[20:02] <LuckyTheTester2> Oh Hey!
[20:03] <LuckyTheTester2> Are there any Lubuntu Developer Builds Available?
[20:03] <LuckyTheTester2> I'm Curious to know.
[20:04] <LuckyTheTester2> I wish I could code my Own Ubuntu Distribution.
[20:04] <LuckyTheTester2> Though it seems to Complicated
[20:05] <ahoneybun> kinda in the wrong room
[20:05] <ahoneybun> #lubuntu-devel
[20:05] <LuckyTheTester2> Me
[20:05] <LuckyTheTester2> Oh
[20:05] <LuckyTheTester2> I thought I was in the right one
[20:08] <mamarley> K and L are right next to each other in the QWERTY layout…
[20:09] <ahoneybun> well The Flash Season 3 is on Netflix... goodbye for a few days lol
[20:10]  * acheronUK checks #jubuntu-devel
[20:11] <acheronUK> ahoneybun: have fun. was a good season
[20:12] <blaze> Jubuntu = Ubuntu for “Jewish People”
[20:13] <blaze> mkay
[20:13] <santa_> wat
[20:14] <santa_> ahoneybun: I can't reproduce that with our packaging, can you?
[20:15] <ahoneybun> guesing wrong person
[20:16] <santa_> ‎‎<ahoneybun>‎‎ clivejo: acheronUK https://plus.google.com/+NitruxInside/posts/YMXqDbEsrnb
[20:16] <ahoneybun> oh that
[20:16] <ahoneybun> idk not tried it
[20:17] <santa_> I have just tested on zesty, let me check artful
[20:19] <acheronUK> was broken yesterday, but kirigami new builds were lagging for latests changes as a ubuntu-dev was rebuilding 1/2 the archive in a ppa to test changes to pie settings
[20:28] <acheronUK> santa_: same issue in Neon dev-unstable latest builds with systemsettings
[20:37] <santa_> acheronUK: I can't reproduce it in artful either, can you please re-check after updating?
[20:37] <santa_> I presume you are on artful with plasma 5.10 aren't you?
[20:38] <acheronUK> santa_: that is an issue with using systemsettings and kirigami2 builds from unstable, not artful archive builds
[20:40] <santa_> ah, ok then we are mostly safe for now
[20:40] <acheronUK> yep
[20:40] <santa_> let's hope the thing get's fixed at some point
[20:40] <santa_> if it doesn't we can always dig into the matter
[20:40] <acheronUK> I'm sure they will by plasma 5.11 release date
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[20:43] <acheronUK> santa_: if Nitrux wat to use ours or Neons builds direct from git master branches, breakage like that every so often is to be expected
[20:50] <santa_> ack, just wanted to make sure we are good with our stable packaging
[20:57] <acheronUK> santa_: them saying that they had to revert to 5.9.5 to fix it, as 5.10 was broken, just shows they don't quite get what the versioning on the repos/branches they are trying to use means. which is a bit worrying for their users
[21:01] <santa_> well, that's the world of freedom we live in, you may know how to handle freedom or not :)
[21:13] <santa_> https://phabricator.kde.org/T6239
[21:14] <acheronUK> ooooooh. probably can't test tonight, byut maybe in the morning in a VM
[21:14] <acheronUK> *but
[21:15] <acheronUK> DarinMiller maybe has a zesty setup? and valorie?
[21:16] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_stable_messagelib build #61: FAILURE in 4 hr 0 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_stable_messagelib/61/
[21:23] <LuckyTheTester2> Hey!
[21:23] <LuckyTheTester2> I'm back
[21:29] <ahoneybun> hey LuckyTheTester2
[21:41] <IrcsomeBot> <Santa> @mparillo, It's enabled now
[21:42] <IrcsomeBot> <Santa> I hope to move all that stuff to a more public place once the thing is more complete
[21:42] <LuckyTheTester2> Ok
[21:42] <LuckyTheTester2> Hey
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[21:44] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[21:44] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_stable_kdeplasma-addons build #25: FIXED in 3 hr 32 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_stable_kdeplasma-addons/25/
[21:45] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[21:46] <LuckyTheTester2> Hey
[21:46] <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> @Santa, not having it there yesterday forced me to work out how to make those iron-hand graphs that scrape the excuses data locally, so not all bad :P
[21:47] <santa_> well, it's not difficult to use
[21:47] <LuckyTheTester2> Hey
[21:47] <santa_> LuckyTheTester2: hey
[21:47] <LuckyTheTester2> Well
[21:47] <LuckyTheTester2> I'm getting Kubuntu
[21:47] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kscreenlocker build #384: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 4 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kscreenlocker/384/
[21:47] <LuckyTheTester2> I think I'm making the Switch
[21:47] <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> @santa_, no, not once you sort the config
[21:48] <LuckyTheTester2> ???
[21:48] <santa_> yeah, ti's not documented yet and kind of unstable
[21:48] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_plasma-pa build #440: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 5 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_plasma-pa/440/
[21:48] <LuckyTheTester2> Bye
[21:48] <santa_> ?
[21:48] <santa_> whatever
[21:48] <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> okaaaaaaaaaaaaay
[21:49] <clivejo> Lucky us
[21:49] <santa_> acheronUK: and since the iron hand op is going to take some time I guess I could put a conf file like the one for the status pages s you could alter the thing on gpul's server
[21:50] <santa_> I could also move the thing to weegie, but I'm not sure if the server could handle well the workload
[21:52] <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> whatever you think is best. was only yesterady that I missed it, and as you say was not too hard to work out
[21:53] <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> it's very useful though :)
[21:59] <valorie> awesome, will test Right Now
[21:59] <valorie> too hot to work in the sun anymore
[22:02] <valorie> 258 upgraded, 9 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[22:02] <valorie> \o/
[22:02]  * clivejo kicks LP
[22:08] <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> anyone tested plasma 5.9.5 updates in zesty-proposed?
[22:08] <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> for the SRU
[22:08] <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> unless we  validate those, they will get rejected in the end
[22:09] <valorie> bummer, should have done that first
[22:09] <valorie> :(
[22:11] <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> I keep forgeting, but release team asked me last week as the bug had not been touched in 7 days
[22:13] <valorie> !testers
[22:13] <ubottu> Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping yofel, soee, Tm_T, BluesKaj, Quintasan, lordievader, mamarley, vip, mparillo, wxl, DarinMiller, tsimonq2 for more information.
[22:13] <valorie> um
[22:13] <valorie> that needs you on there
[22:13] <valorie> and not quintasan
[22:13] <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/zesty/+source/plasma-desktop/+bug/1687444
[22:13] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1687444 in plasma-desktop (Ubuntu Zesty) "Zesty SRU tracking bug for KDE's Plasma 5.9.5" [Wishlist,Fix committed]
[22:33] <valorie> acheronUK: https://twitter.com/valoriez/status/870045388094361600
[22:35] <acheronUK> valorie: looking....
[22:36] <acheronUK> thanks
[22:48] <acheronUK> ahoneybun: slideshow fixed?
[22:49] <ahoneybun> i've not looked at it very hard today
[22:49] <acheronUK> ahoneybun: ok. to late for me to test today also. was just curious
[22:50] <ahoneybun> weird debuild -s did not give any errors 
[22:50] <ahoneybun> other then some sign stuff
[22:50] <mparillo> santa_: When you write enabled, is it the Iron Hand reports, or https://phabricator.kde.org/T6239
[22:50] <ahoneybun> acheronUK: is that what you did, run debuild?
[22:51] <mparillo> I am guessing you mean this: http://gpul.grupos.udc.es/ka-iron-hand_reports/plasma_archive/5.10.0_artful_proposed_migration.pdf
[22:51] <acheronUK> ahoneybun: no, full build in pbuilder
[22:51] <ahoneybun> mm damn
[22:51] <ahoneybun> then maybe it's not fully building then
[22:51] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[22:51] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_stable_messagelib build #62: FIXED in 1 hr 30 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_stable_messagelib/62/
[22:51] <ahoneybun> acheronUK: tbh I'm losing steam on this as the html is not listening to the css
[22:51] <santa_> ‎<‎mparillo‎>‎ I am guessing you mean this: http://gpul.grupos.udc.es/ka-iron-hand_reports/plasma_archive/5.10.0_artful_proposed_migration.pdf
[22:52] <acheronUK> ahoneybun: maybe we should revert to the old version for the time being then? and fix this properly for the alpha or beta?
[22:52] <mparillo> Yes, thank you. I see two grey ovals.
[22:53] <ahoneybun> acheronUK: well not sure
[22:53] <santa_> mparillo: yes, I meant that link, the grey packages are because they are new and not in the packageset yet
[22:53] <santa_> acheronUK: btw I hope to finish apps tomorrow
[22:53] <santa_> today I will try to get plasma 5.8.7 for xenial so people can test it
[22:53] <acheronUK> ahoneybun: was not too happy with the one now on the isos the other day
[22:54] <ahoneybun> :(
[22:54] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project artful_unstable_kscreenlocker build #47: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 6 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/artful_unstable_kscreenlocker/47/
[22:54] <acheronUK> ahoneybun: I test that again tomorrow
[22:54] <mparillo> But I thought the -ppa1 packages were all superceded by -ubuntu1 packages (at least in my VM).
[22:59] <acheronUK> mparillo: maybe you did not have the new 'kde-config-plymouth' and 'xdg-desktop-portal-kde' installed in your VM to start with?
[23:07] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_merger build #882: SUCCESS in 7 min 5 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_merger/882/
[23:08] <mparillo> Yes, apt-cache policy plymouth-kcm or xdg-desktop-portal-kde returns N: Unable to locate package
[23:08] <mparillo> Does that mean we need a MOTU?
[23:10] <santa_> yep :|
[23:12] <mparillo> TY. Adding Backports-landing to Zesty
[23:13] <mparillo> 131 Updates Selected
[23:13]  * acheronUK would like to be MOTU
[23:13] <clivejo> apply :P
[23:13] <acheronUK> but god knows when I can find the time to put in the work for that!
[23:13] <valorie> plasma 10.0 seems awesome
[23:13]  * valorie goes back outside
[23:13] <acheronUK> valorie: :)
[23:20] <acheronUK> clivejo: plus I think Simon would murder me if I got MOTU before him ;)
[23:21] <clivejo> well for you it is the next logical step
[23:22]  * acheronUK plans to take over the world
[23:23] <clivejo> world then universe?
[23:23] <genii> Start with the tri-state area
[23:23] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kstars build #492: STILL FAILING in 15 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kstars/492/
[23:25] <genii> I think i might watch too much Phineas and Ferb :(
[23:26] <mparillo> Plasma 5.10 Backports-Landing for 17.04 looks good. I updated https://phabricator.kde.org/T6239
[23:26] <acheronUK> genii: I watched too much Pinky & the Brain
[23:28] <mparillo> I did manage to crash discover, but I seem to have that talent. Unfortunately, I have trouble reproducing it reliably.
[23:30] <acheronUK> mparillo: thank you :)
[23:51] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_stable_plasma-pa build #37: STILL UNSTABLE in 42 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_stable_plasma-pa/37/