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luk3yxShould questions about staging.launchpad.net be asked here or somewhere else?03:51
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wgrantluk3yx: Here is fine.04:21
luk3yxHow long does it take for it to clone a git repo?04:21
wgrantluk3yx: staging.launchpad.net doesn't have git support today. What are you doing with it?04:22
luk3yxI was trying to clone a git repository to test the snap building feature.04:23
wgrantstaging can only upload to the staging snap store, which you can't install from unless you build a custom snapd. You probably want to use production for that instead.04:23
wgrantstaging's better if you're testing scripts to manipulate lots of bugs, or do other things that might disrupt other users.04:24
luk3yxOh, okay.04:24
luk3yxThank you.04:24
luk3yxWhat's https://qastaging.launchpad.net/?04:25
wgrantluk3yx: It's like staging... except different. It runs a different branch of the code, and is mostly used by us for QA purposes. But it does have git support.04:27
luk3yxOh, okay.04:27
luk3yxHow often are the staging ones reset?04:27
wgrantstaging is reset weekly. qastaging is reset when we feel like it.04:29
luk3yxOkay.04:29
luk3yxThank you for your help.04:30
wgrantnp04:30
luk3yxHow long does qastaging take to clone a git repo?04:31
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cjwatsonluk3yx: That's a bit of a "how long is a piece of string" question.  What repository in particular?  Do you mean that you're trying to set up a code import?09:41
alkisgHi, I tried copying to packages from one PPA to another, and I got some launchpad error mails. Now it's been stuck at either building or pending to be published, for 1 hour or so. Should I just wait, or should I report the issue?09:46
alkisghttps://launchpad.net/~ts.sch.gr/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+packages?field.name_filter=java8&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=09:46
alkisg*s/to/two09:46
cjwatsonalkisg: It's backed up due to a particularly large rebuild in one PPA, but it'll get there eventually.09:55
alkisgcjwatson: so no action needed on my part, thank you09:56
cjwatsonIndeed.09:56
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jorgesumleI want to submit a bug to Launchpad, but I can't because I cannot validate my Ubuntu One account. Can someone do it for me?14:54
cjwatsonWhat goes wrong when you try to validate it?14:56
jorgesumleI need to complete a CAPTCHA, but it doesn't appear when JavaScript is disabled14:57
jorgesumleI surf the web with JS disabled because of privacy.14:57
jorgesumleThe bug should be sent here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/midori14:57
jorgesumleHere it is the bug report, you just have to copy and paste: https://paste.debian.net/95578114:58
jorgesumleI would be very helpful if someone could fill it for me :)14:58
rbasakI have a separate browser profile for stuff like this. Its set to clear everything on exit - basically private browsing mode. I don't believe there's any realistic loss in privacy by jumping in there to do the odd task like this.14:58
cjwatsonWe aren't likely to drop the captcha requirement; it's an important spam defence.14:59
jorgesumleI'm not asking you that, I just asked for someone to take 30 secs to help me fill a bug report. Though it would be an improvement if the CAPTCHA would work with JS disabled.15:01
cjwatsonI'm afraid I don't file bugs on other people's behalf because that breaks the ability for developers to contact the bug reporter.15:02
McI thought midori just uses webkit15:05
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cjwatsonFrom https://developers.google.com/recaptcha/docs/faq it looks like we can only support non-JS signups by weakening security, and our spam situation is already bad enough, sorry :(15:07
jorgesumleThere is an IRC channel called #midori, I'm also trying there. Thanks for your responses.15:09
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bdmurraycjwatson: I've also been encountering some more LP OOPSes recently e.g. https://oops.canonical.com/?oopsid=OOPS-fbdcf5eec6283761189e84d5d66da7ba16:39
ubot5https://oops.canonical.com/?oopsid=OOPS-fbdcf5eec6283761189e84d5d66da7ba16:39
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cjwatsonbdmurray: That looks worth filing a bug on: we appear to be spending at least a second on lots of per-bug queries that could almost certainly be done in bulk instead.16:58
bdmurraycjwatson: okay17:00
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sergio-br2hi18:44
sergio-br2how do I workaround "virtual memory exhausted: Operation not permitted" in launchpad i386 builds?18:45
sergio-br2trying building mame there...18:45
cjwatsonThe usual approach is to reduce your build's parallelism level18:45
cjwatsonAlso worth looking into various memory-saving linker options18:45
sergio-br2dh $@ --parallel18:45
sergio-br2hummm18:45
sergio-br2removing that will take a lot of time to build heh18:46
cjwatsonthere's a --max-parallel option.  see debhelper(7)18:46
sergio-br2let's see18:46
cjwatsonso you could e.g. try --max-parallel=218:46
sergio-br2what's the maximum used in launchpad farm?18:47
cjwatsonthe builder VMs have 4 VCPUs, so --parallel will default to that18:47
sergio-br2ok, let's see if it works18:47
sergio-br2didn't work, let's see without --parallel20:45
sergio-br2didn't work either cjwatson21:46
cjwatsonsergio-br2: 19:45 <cjwatson> Also worth looking into various memory-saving linker options21:47
cjwatsonsergio-br2: but I'm sorry, I can't really debug your build for you, only make general suggestions.21:47
cjwatsonsergio-br2: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mame appears to build fine on i386 so you should look at what it does; I see at least one memory-saving tweak in debian/rules there.21:48
sergio-br2ahh, true22:01
sergio-br2#export DEB_LDFLAGS_MAINT_APPEND = -Wl,--no-keep-memory22:01
sergio-br2let's see there22:01
cjwatsonDoesn't look like it's your linker step that's failing, so you might need to look into other flags there.  I didn't look very hard.22:05
sergio-br2cjwatson, does launchpad farm use swap?22:46
cjwatsonsergio-br2: 4GiB swap IIRC23:08
sergio-br2wut23:08
sergio-br2man, mame became a huge monster heh23:08
cjwatsonsergio-br2: Not that that's relevant to "virtual memory exhausted".23:08
sergio-br2isn't it using swap in the build?23:09
sergio-br2virtual memory = RAM + swap ?23:10
naccRAM + swap would be more like physical memory, sort of23:12
cjwatsonsergio-br2: You get that error when you try to allocate more than will fit in your process' address space.23:12
naccsergio-br2: virtual memory is more about the addressable memory (so exceeding 2^32)23:12
sergio-br22^32 = 4 GB right23:13
cjwatsonPossibly even 3GiB on i386, I forget.  At any rate it's not relevant how much RAM+swap is available beyond that, in this case.23:13
sergio-br23 GB in PC arch23:13
nacccjwatson: good point, it's not quite 4GB23:14
cjwatsonNote that the amd64 builders are exactly the same VMs.23:14
sergio-br2yeah, I forgot this detail, too much used to amd6423:14

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