luk3yx | Should questions about staging.launchpad.net be asked here or somewhere else? | 03:51 |
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wgrant | luk3yx: Here is fine. | 04:21 |
luk3yx | How long does it take for it to clone a git repo? | 04:21 |
wgrant | luk3yx: staging.launchpad.net doesn't have git support today. What are you doing with it? | 04:22 |
luk3yx | I was trying to clone a git repository to test the snap building feature. | 04:23 |
wgrant | staging can only upload to the staging snap store, which you can't install from unless you build a custom snapd. You probably want to use production for that instead. | 04:23 |
wgrant | staging's better if you're testing scripts to manipulate lots of bugs, or do other things that might disrupt other users. | 04:24 |
luk3yx | Oh, okay. | 04:24 |
luk3yx | Thank you. | 04:24 |
luk3yx | What's https://qastaging.launchpad.net/? | 04:25 |
wgrant | luk3yx: It's like staging... except different. It runs a different branch of the code, and is mostly used by us for QA purposes. But it does have git support. | 04:27 |
luk3yx | Oh, okay. | 04:27 |
luk3yx | How often are the staging ones reset? | 04:27 |
wgrant | staging is reset weekly. qastaging is reset when we feel like it. | 04:29 |
luk3yx | Okay. | 04:29 |
luk3yx | Thank you for your help. | 04:30 |
wgrant | np | 04:30 |
luk3yx | How long does qastaging take to clone a git repo? | 04:31 |
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cjwatson | luk3yx: That's a bit of a "how long is a piece of string" question. What repository in particular? Do you mean that you're trying to set up a code import? | 09:41 |
alkisg | Hi, I tried copying to packages from one PPA to another, and I got some launchpad error mails. Now it's been stuck at either building or pending to be published, for 1 hour or so. Should I just wait, or should I report the issue? | 09:46 |
alkisg | https://launchpad.net/~ts.sch.gr/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+packages?field.name_filter=java8&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter= | 09:46 |
alkisg | *s/to/two | 09:46 |
cjwatson | alkisg: It's backed up due to a particularly large rebuild in one PPA, but it'll get there eventually. | 09:55 |
alkisg | cjwatson: so no action needed on my part, thank you | 09:56 |
cjwatson | Indeed. | 09:56 |
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jorgesumle | I want to submit a bug to Launchpad, but I can't because I cannot validate my Ubuntu One account. Can someone do it for me? | 14:54 |
cjwatson | What goes wrong when you try to validate it? | 14:56 |
jorgesumle | I need to complete a CAPTCHA, but it doesn't appear when JavaScript is disabled | 14:57 |
jorgesumle | I surf the web with JS disabled because of privacy. | 14:57 |
jorgesumle | The bug should be sent here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/midori | 14:57 |
jorgesumle | Here it is the bug report, you just have to copy and paste: https://paste.debian.net/955781 | 14:58 |
jorgesumle | I would be very helpful if someone could fill it for me :) | 14:58 |
rbasak | I have a separate browser profile for stuff like this. Its set to clear everything on exit - basically private browsing mode. I don't believe there's any realistic loss in privacy by jumping in there to do the odd task like this. | 14:58 |
cjwatson | We aren't likely to drop the captcha requirement; it's an important spam defence. | 14:59 |
jorgesumle | I'm not asking you that, I just asked for someone to take 30 secs to help me fill a bug report. Though it would be an improvement if the CAPTCHA would work with JS disabled. | 15:01 |
cjwatson | I'm afraid I don't file bugs on other people's behalf because that breaks the ability for developers to contact the bug reporter. | 15:02 |
Mc | I thought midori just uses webkit | 15:05 |
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cjwatson | From https://developers.google.com/recaptcha/docs/faq it looks like we can only support non-JS signups by weakening security, and our spam situation is already bad enough, sorry :( | 15:07 |
jorgesumle | There is an IRC channel called #midori, I'm also trying there. Thanks for your responses. | 15:09 |
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bdmurray | cjwatson: I've also been encountering some more LP OOPSes recently e.g. https://oops.canonical.com/?oopsid=OOPS-fbdcf5eec6283761189e84d5d66da7ba | 16:39 |
ubot5 | https://oops.canonical.com/?oopsid=OOPS-fbdcf5eec6283761189e84d5d66da7ba | 16:39 |
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cjwatson | bdmurray: That looks worth filing a bug on: we appear to be spending at least a second on lots of per-bug queries that could almost certainly be done in bulk instead. | 16:58 |
bdmurray | cjwatson: okay | 17:00 |
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sergio-br2 | hi | 18:44 |
sergio-br2 | how do I workaround "virtual memory exhausted: Operation not permitted" in launchpad i386 builds? | 18:45 |
sergio-br2 | trying building mame there... | 18:45 |
cjwatson | The usual approach is to reduce your build's parallelism level | 18:45 |
cjwatson | Also worth looking into various memory-saving linker options | 18:45 |
sergio-br2 | dh $@ --parallel | 18:45 |
sergio-br2 | hummm | 18:45 |
sergio-br2 | removing that will take a lot of time to build heh | 18:46 |
cjwatson | there's a --max-parallel option. see debhelper(7) | 18:46 |
sergio-br2 | let's see | 18:46 |
cjwatson | so you could e.g. try --max-parallel=2 | 18:46 |
sergio-br2 | what's the maximum used in launchpad farm? | 18:47 |
cjwatson | the builder VMs have 4 VCPUs, so --parallel will default to that | 18:47 |
sergio-br2 | ok, let's see if it works | 18:47 |
sergio-br2 | didn't work, let's see without --parallel | 20:45 |
sergio-br2 | didn't work either cjwatson | 21:46 |
cjwatson | sergio-br2: 19:45 <cjwatson> Also worth looking into various memory-saving linker options | 21:47 |
cjwatson | sergio-br2: but I'm sorry, I can't really debug your build for you, only make general suggestions. | 21:47 |
cjwatson | sergio-br2: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mame appears to build fine on i386 so you should look at what it does; I see at least one memory-saving tweak in debian/rules there. | 21:48 |
sergio-br2 | ahh, true | 22:01 |
sergio-br2 | #export DEB_LDFLAGS_MAINT_APPEND = -Wl,--no-keep-memory | 22:01 |
sergio-br2 | let's see there | 22:01 |
cjwatson | Doesn't look like it's your linker step that's failing, so you might need to look into other flags there. I didn't look very hard. | 22:05 |
sergio-br2 | cjwatson, does launchpad farm use swap? | 22:46 |
cjwatson | sergio-br2: 4GiB swap IIRC | 23:08 |
sergio-br2 | wut | 23:08 |
sergio-br2 | man, mame became a huge monster heh | 23:08 |
cjwatson | sergio-br2: Not that that's relevant to "virtual memory exhausted". | 23:08 |
sergio-br2 | isn't it using swap in the build? | 23:09 |
sergio-br2 | virtual memory = RAM + swap ? | 23:10 |
nacc | RAM + swap would be more like physical memory, sort of | 23:12 |
cjwatson | sergio-br2: You get that error when you try to allocate more than will fit in your process' address space. | 23:12 |
nacc | sergio-br2: virtual memory is more about the addressable memory (so exceeding 2^32) | 23:12 |
sergio-br2 | 2^32 = 4 GB right | 23:13 |
cjwatson | Possibly even 3GiB on i386, I forget. At any rate it's not relevant how much RAM+swap is available beyond that, in this case. | 23:13 |
sergio-br2 | 3 GB in PC arch | 23:13 |
nacc | cjwatson: good point, it's not quite 4GB | 23:14 |
cjwatson | Note that the amd64 builders are exactly the same VMs. | 23:14 |
sergio-br2 | yeah, I forgot this detail, too much used to amd64 | 23:14 |
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