[01:11] <Osirus126> hey guys and gals. im having an issue with my Ubuntu Mate 17.04 Desktop. When chrome is open the desktop icons all become unresponsive.. and also the right click menu doesn not work......
[01:11] <Osirus126> this is only when i have google chrome open. When i minimize it, i cannot click on any of my desktop icons or use the right click menu. I have tryed to see if this happens with other applications such as firefox, or any other application and it does not cause the issue..
[01:11] <Osirus126> any help would be greatly appreciated
[01:12] <biotim> could be  a video driver issue. Have you tried disabling hardware acceleration in chrome?
[01:12] <Osirus126> no
[01:12] <Osirus126> how would i do that?>
[01:12] <biotim> i think it's in "advanced settings"
[01:13] <biotim> "use hardware acceleration"  ,  uncheck that
[01:14] <Osirus126> just tryed to disable it and it had no effect
[01:14] <Osirus126> still same issue
[01:14] <biotim> even after quitting and restarting chrome?
[01:15] <Osirus126> yes
[01:16] <biotim> Hmm not sure what it could be then
[01:16] <Osirus126> the desktop is unusable if chrome is open.. my panels work.. but the desktop icons do not
[01:16] <biotim> Might be good to install chromium from the default repos and see if that has the same issue
[01:16] <Osirus126> yea i can try that aswell.. yet the reason i use chrome is because of netflix
[01:17] <biotim> i see
[01:18] <Osirus126> and this is a pretty fresh install aswell. just a few weeks old with extremely minor tweaks. none if any really, just installed some applications using apt and updated everything
[01:19] <biotim> Yeah, I once had some similar problems related to using the nouveau driver, which went away if I used the NVIDIA binary
[01:21] <Osirus126> i am using the newest available drivers for my GPU. so i dont think it is that.. everything seems to be running fine. and nvidia-settings works as expected
[01:23] <biotim> Maybe try disabling the "zero-copy rasterizer" under chrome://flags   (see also  https://www.quora.com/How-do-I-reduce-avoid-the-heavy-CPU-usage-of-Google-Chrome-in-Ubuntu/answer/Atif-Imam)
[05:40] <dazednconfused> Hi guys. I'm actually running MATE on Arch but I wanted to know the name of the default gtk and icon theme in Ubuntu MATE 17.04
[05:47] <alkisg> dazednconfused: this is what i have in 16.04: http://termbin.com/8px8
[05:57] <dazednconfused> Thanks alkisg
[09:26] <webmind> hi, how do I change the logo on the on mate 'floating mate' screensaver ?
[09:26] <ouroumov> webmind, not sure you can
[09:27] <webmind> oh
[09:27] <ouroumov> unless you go hacking into the code, obviously
[09:27] <webmind> sounds rather boring, is there a way to accomplish the same thing?
[09:27] <webmind> have a screensaver with a floating logo?
[09:27] <webmind> can't just replace an image somewhere?
[09:28] <ouroumov> You can load additional screensavers for sure
[09:29] <ouroumov> webmind, I think mate-screensavers hits /usr/share/pixmaps/mate-logo-white.svg
[09:34] <webmind> found it
[09:34] <webmind> you can create a .desktop file
[09:34] <webmind> in /usr/share/applications/screensavers
[09:34] <webmind> using the gnomelogo-floaters.desktop as a template
[09:34] <webmind> the floaters screensaver takes an svg as argument
[09:35] <ouroumov> cool
[09:35] <webmind> thhnx :)
[09:35] <ouroumov> webmind, that'd be a nice entry into the "Tips and Tricks" section of our forum, if you're up to it
[09:35] <webmind> where is that?
[09:36] <ouroumov> Here: https://ubuntu-mate.community/c/tips-tricks-and-tutorials/tips-and-tricks
[09:38] <Kenzo> hey room
[09:38] <Kenzo> quick question. has anyone figured out why mirroring displays in ubuntu-mate limits you to a resolution of 640 x 480? it looks super weird on my tv, just huge. but i can't adjust and it doesn't detect
[09:38] <ouroumov> Kenzo, what version of Ubuntu MATE?
[09:39] <Kenzo> 16.04.2
[09:40] <ouroumov> Weird, I've used mirroring and haven't seen that problem before
[09:40] <ouroumov> Have you tested on multiple external monitors?
[09:41] <Kenzo> no i only have my tv to test on unfortunately. previously mirrored perfectly fine with ubuntu 14.04 a long while back so doubt it's the TV's fault
[09:44] <alkisg> Kenzo: what's the output of this command on the terminal? xrandr | nc termbin.com 9999
[09:46] <Kenzo> alkisg, http://termbin.com/6iem
[09:47] <webmind> hmm, is there a way via the console to change the current screensaver?
[09:47] <alkisg> Kenzo: so in general xorg uses the biggest common resolution between them
[09:47] <alkisg> Which in this case, is 640x480 :)
[09:47] <alkisg> Kenzo: try xrandr --addmode HDMI-1 1366x768
[09:47] <alkisg> Kenzo: did this succeed?
[09:48] <alkisg> (i mean, no error output after the command)
[09:48] <Kenzo> no error
[09:48] <alkisg> Kenzo: ok now try: xrandr --output HDMI-1 --mode 1366x768 --same-as eDP-1
[09:48] <ouroumov> webmind, there's a gsettings entry in org.mate.screensaver theme
[09:49] <ouroumov> themes *
[09:49] <webmind> is there a way to that systemwide?
[09:49] <webmind> I basicly got N machines I want to have this screensaver by default
[09:50] <Kenzo> alkisg, my tv monitor reports 'mode not supported'
[09:50] <alkisg> Kenzo: OK, do you want to try the opposite, to use 1280x720 in your pc?
[09:50] <alkisg> (what is it, pc or laptop?)
[09:51] <alkisg> Kenzo: start with this: xrandr --output HDMI-1 --mode 1280x720 --same-as eDP-1
[09:51] <Kenzo> alkisg, laptop, would it just entail swapping 1366x768 for 1280x720 in that command?
[09:51] <alkisg> This should set up a clone, but not with the same size in both monitors
[09:52] <alkisg> Kenzo: does the tv show with that command?
[09:53] <Kenzo> eureka that seemed to work!! thanks alkisg.
[09:53] <Kenzo> i'm missing my bottom panel on the tv but is that expected?
[09:53] <alkisg> Kenzo: note though that the resolution isn't the same in both screens now, you might have a border in one of them, or you might miss a few pixels...
[09:53] <alkisg> Yes
[09:54] <alkisg> So, the other way is to try to set 1280x720 in the laptop, and you'll be seeing the same things, but it won't be "native resolution" in the laptop anymore,
[09:54] <alkisg> meaning that in the laptop the pixels will be a bit blurred
[09:54] <Kenzo> it's much better than it was before. so is this a command "xrandr --output HDMI-1 --mode 1280x720 --same-as eDP-1
[09:54] <Kenzo> " i will need to run every time i connect with hdmi
[09:54] <ouroumov> webmind, don't know, maybe some leads here: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/27484/set-default-global-gnome-preferences-gnome-3
[09:55] <alkisg> Kenzo: right
[09:55] <webmind> thnx
[09:56] <alkisg> webmind: do you want a default value or a mandatory value?
[09:57] <Kenzo> alkisg, ahh right. thanks.
[09:57] <alkisg> np
[09:57] <webmind> alkisg: default
[09:58] <alkisg> webmind: ls /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/*.override
[09:58] <alkisg> You need to create one file similar to these
[09:58] <alkisg> And then run glib-compile-schemas
[09:59] <alkisg> While for mandatory gconf values, the documentation is at https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/7/html/Desktop_Migration_and_Administration_Guide/custom-default-values-system-settings.html#lock-down-specific-settings
[10:01] <alkisg> webmind: if you manage N systems, the best way to manage settings is to create your own "my-settings.deb" package
[10:01] <alkisg> That way you can even auto-update it with new settings
[10:02] <alkisg> (and I hope you've heard about LTSP too :))
[10:02] <webmind> alkisg: using ansible for iyt
[10:02] <webmind> it
[10:03] <webmind> any idea where the default screensaver is set?
[10:03] <alkisg> ansible is cool but it's not "allowed" to write to /usr
[10:03] <webmind> yeah, get that :)
[10:03] <alkisg> grep -ri screensaver /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas, should tell you that
[10:05] <alkisg> I see ubuntu-mate.gschema.override there, so you need a filename alphabetically after "ubuntu-mate" to override that
[10:05] <webmind> ok
[10:05] <webmind> that file also sets a screensaver
[10:05] <webmind> but not sure how that naming works, it's not the same as the desktop file
[10:06] <alkisg> man glib-compile-schemas
[10:06] <alkisg> ...you'll find more than enough documentation ;)
[10:06] <webmind> themes=['screensavers-footlogo-floaters']
[10:07] <webmind> that's a short one page manpage?
[10:07] <alkisg> I thought you were saying about file names there
[10:07] <alkisg> If you're talking about gsetting values, man gsettings instead
[10:08] <webmind> I created a .desktop file, which now shows up in my list of screensavers
[10:08] <webmind> I would like this screensaver to be the default.
[10:08] <webmind> but if I look at the default set in ubuntu-mate.gschema.override, that does not match the .desktop file of the usual default
[10:08] <webmind> so some translation happens somewhere I guess
[10:10] <alkisg> You can run `dconf watch /` on a terminal, and then play with the GUI to change whatever settings that you want
[10:10] <alkisg> Then you'll see the respective gsettings that were changed in the terminal
[10:11] <alkisg> So it's one way to map from gui to gsettings
[10:11] <webmind> ah
[10:11] <webmind> that was simple :)
[10:12] <Kenzo> alkisg, purely cosmetic but is there anyway to remove the lovely green box at the top left hand corner that displays the hdmi display?
[10:13] <alkisg> Kenzo: if you mean the icon that the "displays dialog" shows, then just close the displays dialog
[10:14] <Kenzo> haha thanks, that simple. i had hidden multiple windows.
[10:14] <alkisg> :)
[10:15] <alkisg> 2 simple things in the last 4 lines, cool! :D
[10:18] <Kenzo> it's a good day :)
[10:31] <webmind> ouroumov: https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/custom-floating-logo-screensaver/13521
[10:41] <Kenzo> i may have hit a snag. my audio is playing out of my laptop, it doesn't detect the tv so i can't select it for output
[10:48] <crankypuss> kenzo, i am LMAO here, not because your bluetooth or whatever is messed up, but because yesterday on my iphone-se i used the flashlight and then had to remove an entirely unrelated app to turn off the damn flashligh!
[10:49] <crankypuss> end-of-days stuff, laptops self-animating and making noise, blinking lights, the whole 9 yards.
[10:49] <Kenzo> how weird. nothing's ever straightforward
[10:49] <crankypuss> not with apple, that's for sure.
[10:51] <crankypuss> not with linux either sometimes.  how did you notice the problem (symptoms) on what kind of environment (hw, distro) and what's your configuration?  We oughta go to the forums for this?  Or not, you decide and i'll go have a smoke.
[10:53] <Kenzo> i'll keep looking for solutions
[11:28] <ouroumov> webmind, thanks :)
[13:03] <webmind> hm
[13:03] <KTrad> ?
[13:03] <webmind> I've made a .override in /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/
[13:03] <webmind> starting with zz
[13:03] <webmind> but it doesn't seem to get taken up
[13:04] <webmind> tried rebooting
[13:06] <webmind> ah
[13:06] <webmind> compile it :)
[13:20] <AtSchool> J'ai installé mysql php7.0 , quand je vais sur ma page le php ne fonctionne pas et ma page est affiché en code
[13:20] <AtSchool> j'utilise ubuntu 16.04
[13:24] <KTrad> Avez-vous activé le module php? Apache2?
[13:28] <webmind> can anyone tell me where launcher objects for the panel are defined?
[13:29] <webmind> I can set which launchers I want in the panel in org.mate.panel
[13:29] <ouroumov> !fr | AtSchool KTrad
[13:30] <webmind> but seems they need to be defined somewhere first
[13:30] <Jack_Sparrow__> you did the right click panel and add right
[13:31] <webmind> yes
[13:31] <webmind> I mean to do it via the console
[13:32] <Jack_Sparrow__> Im using mint menu so I wont be much help
[13:33] <webmind> I'm trying to do it for 20 workstations in one go :)
[13:36] <Jack_Sparrow__> Last century when I got my first fortune 500 job they had three computers, by the end of the first year I had 200 just here in our San Diego Offices..  I know what you want to do.  Just out of touch
[13:38] <KTrad> I speak english too ubottu :P
[13:39] <Jack_Sparrow__> KTrad, ubottu is our friendly bot
[13:39] <KTrad> yea realised that after I said it lol
[13:40] <Jack_Sparrow__> !ppa
[13:40] <Jack_Sparrow__> We can trigger all sorts of answers and hints with it
[13:41] <KTrad> Not been on the IRC community for very long
[13:41] <KTrad> for Ubuntu-MATE that is
[13:41] <KTrad> though I am a moderater at ubuntu-mate.community
[13:42] <AtSchool> oui on activer le module php et apache 2
[13:44] <AtSchool> on fait un page super simple en php avec une ligne de commande pour voir si le php fonctionne et il ne fonctionne pas
[13:44] <AtSchool> et on a installé tout sur une version vierge
[13:49] <KTrad> Je ne sais pas. :/ Join #ubuntu-fr Ils peuvent vous aider
[14:00] <AtSchool> on l'a trouvé
[14:01] <Jack_Sparrow__> !iptables
[14:03] <ouroumov> KTrad, you're a forum moderator? What's your nickname?
[14:06] <AtSchool> apt-get install libapache2-mod-php qui manque
[14:06] <AtSchool> dans le ubuntu 16.04
[14:30] <KTrad> KTrad ouroumov
[14:32] <ouroumov> KTrad, there is nobody with that nickname on the forum
[14:32] <KTrad> on ubuntu-mate.community
[14:32] <KTrad> yes ther eis
[14:32] <KTrad> there*
[14:33] <ouroumov> KTrad, oh yes I found you
[14:33] <ouroumov> Sorry, wrong search options
[14:33] <KTrad> it's ok lol
[14:33] <ouroumov> KTrad, I'm one of the new moderators
[14:34] <KTrad> oh yea?
[14:34] <KTrad> oh yea you are
[14:35] <KTrad> Disappeared for a while due to some personal issues but I'm back
[14:35] <ouroumov> Welcome back ^^
[14:35] <KTrad> thanks :D
[14:36] <Jack_Sparrow__> Guys, try to avoid all of the political backroom crap that goes on.
[14:37] <KTrad> What are you talking about?
[14:39] <Jack_Sparrow__> Some of the entrenched leadership can be a pain.
[14:40] <Jack_Sparrow__> Not the place to discuss it.. this is support
[14:40] <KTrad> oh ok. Not really working with canonical though just moderating the mate forums
[14:41] <Jack_Sparrow__> I was an op here for years, left when that unity desktop was forced down our throats
[14:41] <KTrad> yea unity was crap
[14:42] <KTrad> stuck to 10.04 for years because of it
[14:42] <Jack_Sparrow__> Many of us moved to Mint and Mate
[14:42] <KTrad> and even then I hated it with the OSX style out of th ebox
[14:42] <KTrad> me included Jack_Sparrow__  lol
[14:42] <Jack_Sparrow__> :)
[14:43] <KTrad> I got back onto Ubuntu with MATE 14.10 I helped beta test and then became a patreon and that kinda dragged me back into the ubuntu system
[14:44] <Jack_Sparrow__> Thanks for all your help and support
[14:45] <Jack_Sparrow__> What all do I need to bring in mintmenu  ?
[14:45] <Jack_Sparrow__> I like one bar at the bottom
[14:45] <Jack_Sparrow__> I dont care to modify the dual one unless I need to
[14:46] <KTrad> I thought thye brought mintmenu into UM a while ago
[14:46] <KTrad> they*
[14:46] <KTrad> apparently I can't type today
[14:47] <Jack_Sparrow__> Im Old.. thats my excuse
[14:48] <Jack_Sparrow__> I didnt see mint menu in by ubuntu setup
[14:48] <Jack_Sparrow__> but I might not have had multi and uni enabled then
[14:50] <KTrad> again I could be wrong it has been a while and still catching up on what has changed recently in the distro
[14:51] <Jack_Sparrow__> Thats alright, it should not be hard to do.
[14:52] <AtSchool> vraiment dommage que ubuntu 16.04 rencontre des conflit avec apache2  et php
[14:59] <jnewt> how do i add locations to the send to... in the right click menu?
[15:18] <ouroumov> AtSchool, please speak English. Use #ubuntu-fr if you want to speak French.
[15:23] <DarkPsydeLord> if i want to speak lituanian?
[15:24] <Jack_Sparrow__> DarkPsydeLord, Then you can have a room all to yourself
[15:26] <DarkPsydeLord> hahahaha i just figured that out
[15:26] <DarkPsydeLord> same if i want to speak euskera
[15:43] <AtSchool> #
[16:01] <Jack_Sparrow__> !32bit
[16:53] <jnewt> how do i add locations to the send to... in the right click menu?
[16:54] <Akuli> jnewt, which program?
[16:54] <jnewt> the file manager (caja?)
[16:54] <Akuli> ok
[16:54] <Akuli> i have no idea, i don't even have a send to menu :)
[16:54] <jnewt> you right click on a file, there's a send to... button, but there's only a couple of options, i want to add some more
[16:55] <Akuli> desktop and home folder?
[16:55] <jnewt> dropbox and syncthing folders
[16:56] <Akuli> i have an older caja
[16:56] <Akuli> i don't have the whole menu anuwhere
[16:56] <Akuli> maybe someone with a newer caja knows
[16:57] <jnewt> i have MATE caja 1.12.7
[16:58] <Akuli> yeah, mine is 1.8.2 :)
[16:58] <jack_Sparrow_> Probably easier to find a file manager that works th way you want than rewriting caja
[17:00] <jnewt> jack_Sparrow_, i figured there was probably just a config file with a list of paths for this
[17:03] <jack_Sparrow_> I wish you the best
[17:05] <Akuli> what's the name of the gui setting tool? i dont remember it
[17:06] <jnewt> mate tweak?
[17:06] <Akuli> no, a more advanced too
[17:06] <Akuli> l
[17:06] <Akuli> dconf something
[17:09] <jack_Sparrow_> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dconf
[17:11] <Akuli> oh its just called dconf-editor
[17:11] <Akuli> yeah
[17:16] <jack_Sparrow_> https://askubuntu.com/questions/22313/what-is-dconf-what-is-its-function-and-how-do-i-use-it
[17:22] <Menzador> Be sure to install dconf-tools with it
[17:23] <Menzador> Or not actually
[17:23] <Menzador> just dconf-editor will do
[17:30] <Akuli> usually apt takes care of dependencies
[17:31] <jack_Sparrow_> See the diff between apt and aptitude etc
[17:31] <jack_Sparrow_> !aptitude
[17:32] <jack_Sparrow_> I was hoping
[17:32] <Akuli> i didn't mean apt the command
[17:32] <Akuli> i meant apt, the thing that apt-get, aptitude and the apt command use
[17:44] <KTrad> so serious question. Since apt was introduced why does every write up/ tutorial still use apt-get instead? Is there a reason to use apt-get over apt? I always found apt to be much easier to read/pay attention to.
[17:45] <Tyler> Looking to switch from Mint cinnamon to ubuntu mate... how does everyone like mate compared to mint cinnamon?
[17:47] <KTrad> I prefer mate mostly because I used Gnome 2.x for like ever and think it is the best of GUI design.
[17:47] <Jack_Sparrow__> Why not mint-mate ?
[17:47] <Akuli> KTrad, nobody wants to change apt-get to apt in every tutorial on the internet just for fun
[17:47] <KTrad> no I know that Akuli
[17:47] <KTrad> but I have seen them written for 17.04 and still use apt-get
[17:47] <Akuli> i still use apt-get sometimes too
[17:48] <Akuli> the authors probably don't pay much attention to that
[17:48] <Tyler> After using miint for like a week, just the way it feels and the way ppa's are on mint just dont work the way i want them to. its seems like if you try to introduce anything from outside into mint it doesnt like it
[17:48] <KTrad> It doesn't really matter I just find apt to be more visually pleasing
[17:48] <Akuli> KTrad, alias gimme='sudo apt-get install'  gimme firefox
[17:49] <Tyler> ^
[17:49] <KTrad> I love it lol
[17:51] <Tyler> anyone here play around with mate on arch?
[17:52] <KTrad> tend to stay away from arch myself
[17:52] <Tyler> I have KDE plasma on my arch install and i honestly dont like it too much. KDE feels clunky to me
[17:52] <Tyler> Arch just takes too much to get running for me and turns me off how one update can break your system... i need stability lol
[17:53] <KTrad> so use debian?
[17:53] <KTrad> and just install mate on it
[17:53] <Jack_Sparrow__> Tyler, To me, MintMate is how I want kde to feel
[17:54] <Tyler> Jack_Sparrow, I agree 100%
[17:54] <Tyler> is there any way to get KDE connect on mate?
[17:54] <Tyler> jw
[17:55] <Jack_Sparrow__> Mint-KDE
[17:56] <Jack_Sparrow__> https://www.linuxmint.com/rel_sarah_kde_whatsnew.php
[17:57] <Jack_Sparrow__> Im still working on my ubuntu-mate config
[17:58] <Tyler> Jack_Sparrow__: What are you trying to do with it?
[18:00] <Jack_Sparrow__> Just my own tweaks and stuff to keep the wife happy
[18:00] <Jack_Sparrow__> Im running multiple ubuntu-mate and mint-mate laptops
[18:01] <Tyler> I feel like I've used every major distro out there, and i still cant figure out what i want
[18:05] <Tyler> %n
[18:05]  * KTrad gives Tyler a copy of Windows ME
[18:05] <KTrad> there ya go
[19:28] <monah> hello room
[19:28] <monah> i have a little problem
[19:31] <monah> hello room
[19:31] <monah> I have a little problem
[19:31] <monah> actually i have 2 pc
[19:31] <monah> ubuntu mate and mint
[19:31] <monah> i installed samba
[19:31] <monah> but can't share folders
[19:34] <KTrad> https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/sharing-folders-on-windows-network/2644
[19:34] <monah> hi KTrad
[19:35] <KTrad> that should fix it for you monah
[19:35] <KTrad> and hiya
[19:35] <monah> actually i don't have windows
[19:35] <monah> just 2 linux
[19:35] <KTrad> doesn't matter
[19:35] <monah> ok
[19:35] <KTrad> still works the same
[19:38] <monah> thx KTrad
[19:39] <monah> actually i installed that
[19:39] <monah> but i don't see my ubuntu on my network share of mint
[19:39] <monah> and vice versa
[19:40] <monah> so if i go to browser network to browse my files on the other pc
[19:40] <monah> I only see windows share
[19:40] <monah> and when i enter it i don't see my other folder on the other pc i already shared
[19:41] <KTrad> Do you have a user/password setup for the share?
[19:41] <monah> no
[19:42] <KTrad> hmm
[19:43] <KTrad> You try inputing the location manually?
[19:43] <KTrad> like: smb://ipaddress/sharename
[19:43] <monah> ok i ll
[19:45] <monah> it works
[19:45] <monah> with the ip
[19:45] <monah> but not with the name
[19:45] <monah> weird
[19:45] <KTrad> that is weird
[19:47] <monah> is it maybe because my 2 pc have the same name?
[19:47] <KTrad> yea that could definitely be it
[19:47] <monah> ok thx
[19:47] <KTrad> Each hostname should be unique within the network
[19:47] <monah> ic
[19:51] <monah> thank you so much
[19:52] <monah> i will try to change the ip adr to fixed and connect by using ip adr
[22:22] <mate|91098> when my pc lock itself up after few minutes i get the ubuntu mate unlock and then the normal ubuntu unlock. is this a "feature" ?