[00:05] <psychoticwarrior> whats up ppl
[00:06] <Edgy1> psychoticwarrior, hello qumen
[00:06] <psychoticwarrior> whats qumen?
[00:06] <psychoticwarrior> qumen
[00:06] <Edgy1> human in bot language
[00:06] <psychoticwarrior> ok
[00:06] <Edgy1> lol
[00:07] <Edgy1> how's ubuntu treating you?
[00:07] <bazhang> Edgy1, did you have an ubuntu support issue
[00:07] <Edgy1> sigh
[00:07] <psychoticwarrior> ubuntu is good
[00:07] <psychoticwarrior> got 17.04 installed
[00:07] <Edgy1> bazhang, i was about to ask psychoticwarrior that very question
[00:07] <bazhang> Edgy1, please take the chatter elsewhere if not
[00:07] <Edgy1> as you wish
[00:31] <energizer1>  I want to connect to a VPN. Should I use "SSL 64 bit VPN" or "IPSec VPN"?
[00:33] <arch-nemesis> Hi energizer1, are you creating your own VPN server or just connecting to a VPN service that already exists?
[00:34] <arch-nemesis> I see they are helping you in #linux too. Let me know if you need help.
[00:58] <ajason> Hi, i downloaded a openvpn config file from vpngate.net
[01:00] <ajason> Hi, i downloaded a openvpn config file from vpngate.net and added route-nopull to it, but after that use `curl --interface tun0 ifconfig.co`, i didn't get any results. my vps info is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24720807/
[01:03] <ajason> what i want to do is route traffic of a specific process to vpn, but the problem now is it seemed i can't get connect to it. I have tested this approach on Debian 8 and `curl --interface tun0 ifconfig.co` returns the result.
[01:03] <ajason> Any tips? Thanks.
[01:23] <sunrunner20> bash -c "$(curl -L https://raw.githubusercontent.com/DataDog/dd-agent/master/packaging/datadog-agent/source/install_agent.sh)" does _NOT_ pipe the input to bash, right? if it fails to fetch the file the whole line fails?
[01:26] <sunrunner20> yea, thought so
[01:58] <fishcooker> yes ducasse
[01:59] <_01101011_> .
[02:05] <SamDeb> Hi, How can I use apt-get source to fetch specific version of a package
[02:06] <leftyfb> SamDeb: try apt-get source yourpackage=1.0.1-0ubuntu6
[02:09] <SamDeb> Thanks for the response leftyfb. I will try the command
[02:09] <SamDeb> Could you please give me some info on why i  need to use -0ubuntu6
[02:10] <leftyfb> SamDeb: it's just an example of the version number
[02:10] <leftyfb> but it's the full version number from apt
[02:10] <SamDeb> I am try to get the source for gstreamer-vaapi 1.12.0
[02:11] <SamDeb> I can download it with pull-lp-source gstreamer-vaapi 1.12.0-1.. but same doesnt work with apt-get source
[02:11] <leftyfb> SamDeb: I don't see gstreamer-vappi in the repo
[02:12] <SamDeb> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gstreamer-vaapi
[02:12] <SamDeb> I found gstream vaapi here
[02:12] <leftyfb> SamDeb: I don't see it in ubuntu 16.04
[02:12] <YankDownUnder> https://github.com/GStreamer/gstreamer-vaapi
[02:13] <kostkon> SamDeb, did you   man pull-lp-source?
[02:14] <kostkon> SamDeb, oh with apt-get source
[02:14] <SamDeb> Yes, I can download gstreamer-vaapi 1.12.0-1 using pull-lp-source command
[02:14] <SamDeb> But i am looking same in apt-get source command..
[02:15] <kostkon> i wonder where pull-debian-source downloads from. the Ubuntu or the debian repos
[02:16] <SemiNus> hi
[02:16] <SemiNus> I just tried to install a software which told me my kernel was too old.
[02:16] <SemiNus> so I tried to install a newer kernel:
[02:16] <SemiNus> sudo aptitude install linux-headers-4.8.0-53
[02:17] <SemiNus> however, the other software tells me it would still detect kernel 2.6.32 on my system
[02:17] <SemiNus> how can I switch to the newer version, please?
[02:17] <leftyfb> SemiNus: reboot
[02:18] <kostkon> SemiNus, 2.6? what version of Ubuntu are you on
[02:18] <SemiNus> kostkon, xenial
[02:18] <SemiNus> it's a vserver
[02:18] <SemiNus> leftyfb, thank you!
[02:18] <SemiNus> I hope that "reboot" won't kill my vserver for good
[02:19] <SemiNus> do you think this command is safe?
[02:19] <SemiNus> the vserver is somewhere else "on the internet"
[02:19] <SemiNus> I have no idea if the server will come online again after I run the "reboot" command
[02:19] <leftyfb> SemiNus: contact your hosting provider
[02:20] <SemiNus> ok leftyfb
[02:21] <wispy> i need to run fcsk. how can i do it?
[02:21] <SemiNus> leftyfb, I found a button "Herunterfahren" (which means "power off") on my customer panel
[02:21] <wispy> my linux has crashed
[02:21] <SemiNus> leftyfb, I just tried that
[02:22] <leftyfb> SemiNus: "sudo reboot" would have worked as well.
[02:22] <leftyfb> wispy: define crashed. Why do you think fsck will fix it?
[02:22] <compdoc> wispy, boot a cd, and check the SMART info for the drive to see if its dying
[02:23] <wispy> leftyfb: "manual fcsk required" when i tried recovery mode
[02:23] <SemiNus> leftyfb, the server has rebooted.  Sandstorm still tells me:  "Detected Linux kernel version: 2.6.32-042stab120.16"
[02:23] <wispy> compdoc: ok. i have a usb. i can try that
[02:23] <SemiNus> did I install the wrong package? "linux-headers-4.8.0-53"
[02:24] <wispy> leftyfb: it stopped responding, and after a hard reboot, it will not boot past grub. some errors detected
[02:24] <compdoc> wispy, the disk utility can show the smart, or run sudo smartctl -a /dev/xxx
[02:24] <leftyfb> SemiNus: not sure what "Sandstorm" is, but it's possible you're running a VPS server which is utilizing a shared kernel which you cannot change by a simple install of a newer kernel. You'll need to contact your hosting provider.
[02:24] <wispy> compdoc: ok thank you
[02:24] <SemiNus> ok leftyfb thank you
[02:24] <compdoc> xxx being the whatever it turns out to be (dont use xxx)
[02:25] <leftyfb> wispy: step #1 make a backup. Either with dd/dd-rescue or clonezilla.
[02:25] <leftyfb> wispy: step #2 make sure you have made a backup
[02:25] <kostkon> wispy, if it does not go past grub only way to try to repair it is with a live usb
[02:25] <wispy> i'm now in busybox initramfs. sudo command not found
[02:26] <wispy> kostkon: ok
[02:26] <leftyfb> wispy: step #3, use a live cd to run fsck on the drive ... but take note of errors in dmesg.... if there's I/O / sense-key errors, you likely have a bad drive and fsck isn't going to make the problem go away
[02:27] <wispy> leftyfb: ok. thank you. sigh
[02:27] <kostkon> wispy, good luck. looks like you've got a seriously broken system.
[02:28] <wispy> kostkon: hah. yeah. i think so too
[02:35] <Bashing-om> wispy: From that liveUSB pastebin ' sudo fdisk -lu ' we see what we can do to run those file system check(s) .
[03:25] <niee> Hello friends. Does anyone know if I can install pastebin on my own server? I want to use it locally in my network that is without the Internet. And maybe a similar free program that can write a text file and need a password
[03:29] <SchrodingersScat> niee: why does it need a password?  You can run the same program that termbin.com uses if you want to be able to pipe something over netcat and have a hosted text file. that wouldn't have a password though.  Next closest thing would be something like nextcloud, but that seems like overkill for that same scenario.
[03:29] <SchrodingersScat> niee: in a very abstract way sftp is a bit like a pastebin on your own server with a password...
[03:33] <niee> ok SchrodingersScat . tnx for help. need paswork for evry user to login and do not see to another what is write.
[03:34] <SchrodingersScat> niee: and note that there may be an open source pastebin, i've never checked.
[03:40] <jmadero> anyone have bluetooth headphones that work in Ubuntu, mine disconnect as soon as I set them as my output device
[03:41] <coder-bts> jmadero: try blueman
[03:42] <jmadero> coder-bts: I can connect just fine, but when I go into audio settings and set the bluetooth headphones as my output device, it disconnects
[03:42] <jmadero> if I just sync to the bluetooth headphones, my computer still outputs through the speakers (and not through the headphones)
[03:42] <coder-bts> but mine works well, and try to install blueman to solve the problem
[03:42] <coder-bts> sudo apt-get install blueman
[03:43] <jmadero> will try
[03:43] <coder-bts> :)
[03:43] <parapatrp> anyone has problem with firefox crashing on Ubuntu 16.04 ?
[03:44] <coder-bts> parapatrp: crashing? nope
[03:44] <coder-bts> please offer the version info
[03:44] <coder-bts> and also your kernel version
[03:44] <parapatrp> Firefox 53.0.3 (64-bit)
[03:45] <parapatrp> Linux kernel 4.8.0-52-generic
[03:45] <coder-bts> nothing wrong.. that's weird
[03:45] <coder-bts> plz describe how it happened
[03:46] <coder-bts> *the crash
[03:46] <parapatrp> I am suspecting that it might be related to graphics driver since both my desktops with AMD crashed
[03:46] <parapatrp> It will just crash and closes all the windows
[03:46] <parapatrp> My laptop works fine
[03:47] <parapatrp> Just curious if anyone suffering from the same issue. Will investigate further myself. Thanks coder-bts
[03:47] <coder-bts> hmmmm... you have an nvidia graphic device?
[03:47] <parapatrp> My laptop has nvidia graphics. Works fine
[03:47] <parapatrp> My desktop with AMD seemed to crashed a lot.
[03:47] <coder-bts> cuz u know, graphic stuff is frustrating on linux
[03:48] <coder-bts> have you installed the nvidia driver? the private driver
[03:49] <parapatrp> coder-bts: the nvidia machine has no issue at all
[03:49] <parapatrp> only the AMD one has been crashing a lot
[03:49] <coder-bts> ohhh sorry i confused
[03:50] <coder-bts> so u may need AMD private driver
[03:50] <parapatrp> I guess so
[03:51] <parapatrp> The thing is even my windows machine is having the same problem
[03:51] <coder-bts> and what drivers u r using now? open-source driver right?
[03:51] <parapatrp> yup
[03:51] <coder-bts> http://support.amd.com/en-us/download
[03:52] <coder-bts> download a new private driver from here
[03:52] <parapatrp> coder-bts: Noted. Will give it a try later.
[03:52] <coder-bts> :)
[03:53] <Bashing-om> coder-bts: carefull ! ,, as of 16.04 .. AMD is open source !
[03:53] <coder-bts> Bashing-om: yeah..? and?
[03:54] <coder-bts> but some open-source drivers cannot work properly
[03:54] <coder-bts> so that, u should try a private one
[03:54] <Bashing-om> there are no proprietary drivers for AMD ,, the drivers are included in the kernel now .
[03:55] <coder-bts> maybe... i am not using amd graphic
[03:56] <coder-bts> time for lunch, leaving
[04:08] <nullbyte_>  how to install grub to GPT/UEFI ?
[04:08] <kostkon> !efi
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> i want to record something with an online virtual piano, tried with gnome sound recorder but no luck, someone knows a package that could do that?
[04:13] <lotuspsychje> kazam didnt record sound neither
[04:15] <kostkon> lotuspsychje, with the classic audacity and pavucontrol combo?
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> kostkon: ill try tnx
[04:33] <jushur> lotuspsychje: open broadcaster software?
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> jushur: whats that specific?
[04:34] <jushur> lotuspsychje: http://sourcedigit.com/20379-install-open-broadcaster-software-obs-studio-in-ubuntu-16-04/
[04:35] <jushur> lotuspsychje: game streamers use it a lot, and it can be used for music to. can record anything you take in from mic or stream you watch online. video and audio.
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> jushur: tnx but i always try to avoid ppa's
[04:36] <jushur> lotuspsychje: it can capture our screen and record it basicly
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> jushur: perhaps ill find something similar in repos
[04:36] <jushur> lotuspsychje: make a VM and install it in that?
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> good idea though jushur tnx
[04:37] <Secret-Fire> how can i get hdmi sound in 17.04?
[04:37] <Secret-Fire> its not working at the moment
[04:38] <jushur> lotuspsychje: https://github.com/jp9000/obs-studio/wiki/Install-Instructions
[04:38] <jushur> lotuspsychje:  can be compiled from source
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> jushur: allrighty, tnx
[04:38] <jushur> Secret-Fire: you have pavucontrol installed?
[04:44] <jushur> lotuspsychje: https://askubuntu.com/questions/60837/record-a-programs-output-with-pulseaudio
[04:44] <jushur> lotuspsychje: i belive that should work for u, just replace steam with the proper application name.
[04:46] <jushur> lotuspsychje: apperantly this should be doable with pavucontrol to.
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> jushur: cool!
[04:59] <jushur> lotuspsychje: the last page i linked there has a script at the end, that works
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> jushur: ok tnx
[04:59] <jushur> lotuspsychje: on a ubuntu system without any third pary repos.
[05:20] <Secret-Fire> hdmi sound not working in 17.04 can someone help?
[05:22] <gt8ost4l> can anybody help me with my wifi problems?
[05:22] <LtFakenham> Ask away, I guess
[05:24] <gt8ost4l> when i installed ubuntu 17.04 i fresh install it would show that it was connected but when i would use the browser it would not connect
[05:25] <gt8ost4l> meaning a established connection but no pinging
[05:26] <jushur> Secret-Fire: have you installed pavucontrol?
[06:08] <aiena> I need some help. I want to build unrealircd for ubuntu.  I created a system user called 'unrealircd' using comand 'adduser --system --no-create-home --group unrealircd' it has no login shell. I a using "sudo -u username bash <<EOF\n <command>\n <command>\n EOF" I am running mkdir there it should create the directory as unrealircd user but it gives permission denined
[06:12] <Aginor> aiena: the user cannot create directores anywhere unless it has permissions to
[06:12] <aiena> Aginor:  probably I need to allow write inside a folder
[06:13] <aiena> execute means only enter the folder but not create sub folders
[06:13] <aiena> so I need to add rx for others to that folder
[06:13] <Aginor> aiena: you shouldn't need to set up a separate user jus to compile it, it might however be a good idea to do so for running it
[06:13] <aiena> so the system user can create a subnfolder in the parent folder
[06:13] <aiena> Aginor: this seperate user is compiling and running it
[06:13] <aiena> i want the compile dir and executiion dir to be owned by this user
[06:14] <Aginor> aiena: you need to create that directory by another user (like root using sudo) and then change ownership to that user
[06:15] <Aginor> sudo mkdir /blah/blah
[06:15] <aiena> Aginor: ok so with chown
[06:15] <Aginor> sudo chown unrealircd.unrealircd /blah/blah
[06:15] <aiena> :
[06:15] <aiena> ok
[06:15] <aiena> Aginor:  I am in a root shell because only root shell can change user to a nologin shell without a password
[06:16] <Aginor> sudo -iu blah --shell=/bin/bah should do it otherwise
[06:16] <Aginor> with some fixing of my typos
[06:16] <Aginor> sorry about that
[06:16] <aiena> nods
[06:17] <aiena> its ok we all make mistakes
[06:17] <aiena> but that . could be dangerous in that command
[06:17] <aiena> most likel chown would complain but it doesnt if you change user to a non system user
[06:18] <aiena> e.g. chown 777 foo.txt works and changes user of the file to 777 even though user '777' was not created on the system
[06:18] <Aginor> aiena: it's user.group
[06:18] <aiena> Aginor: I always thought it was user:group
[06:18] <hateball> aiena: And it is
[06:18] <Aginor> although that's the old syntax I realise now, it's colon that's the right way to do it
[06:19] <Aginor> I just read the man page
[06:19] <Aginor> I got confused
[06:19] <Aginor> it's the end of a long day for me :)
[06:19] <hateball> chown is used for ownership, chmod is used for permissions such as 777
[06:19] <aiena> ok I ws like stunned with the , syntax
[06:19] <hateball> neither should be used without knowing what you're doing
[06:19] <aiena> hateball:  yes I know what I meant is that chown works even if there is no system user by that name
[06:19] <Aginor> aiena: never change something to be world writable without knowing the implications (666, 777, etc)
[06:20] <aiena> also root should never be used if you dont know what your doing either
[06:20] <aiena> Aginor:  yes
[06:20] <Aginor> aiena: that's how security holes are created
[06:20] <aiena> yes samba though is a bit of a pain without 777 (:
[06:21] <aiena> somehow files are created as user:usernameas group instead of user:group samba user is logged in as
[06:21] <aiena> somehow files are created as user:usernameasgroup instead of user:group samba user is logged in as
[06:44] <fadavi> sometimes, my laptop immedietely freepzes after unplugging ac adapter. im on zesty and my machine is asus n552vw-a; anyone here had same problem?
[06:45] <fadavi> freezes *
[06:51] <genewitch> is there a channel for ubuntu hardware discussion
[06:53] <hateball> genewitch: there's ##hardware
[06:53] <hateball> tho not distro specific
[06:53] <hateball> !alis | genewitch
[07:05] <gpio>  
[07:23] <Newbs123> hi guys how are you all doing?
[07:28] <Newbs123> I'd like to ask something, I hope its ok. Ive been trying to setup ubuntu samba file server 14.04 trusty tahr, but im having difficulty with it. I have done installed the system, setup the network, and run apt-get update, all works perfectly until i do apt-get upgrade. i get errors on it like Err http://ph.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-updates/main and more at the bottom. i wanted to paste code but i didnt know how without the ssh terminal since its
[07:28] <Newbs123> fresh install.
[07:28] <Newbs123> solutions ive tried was edit /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base add nameserver 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 also same in /etc/resolv.conf
[07:29] <Newbs123> also did rm -vf /var/lib/apt/lists/* then update
[07:30] <Newbs123> also did this sudo apt-get --download-only --reinstall install resolvconf, sudo dpkg --purge --force-depends resolvconf, sudo apt-get install resolvconf nothing seemed to work
[07:30] <Newbs123> i did ping google and internet is working.
[07:30] <Newbs123> if anyone can help id really appreciate it
[07:35] <auronandace> Newbs123: you can use a pastebin and link the url here if you want to show us errors
[07:35] <auronandace> !paste | Newbs123
[07:36] <Newbs123> hi auronandace! yeah but thing is i don't know how to get the lines from the new server i just installed
[07:36] <Newbs123> im kinda new to this so i really dont know much could you be kind enough to walk me thru it? if its not much of a trouble for you.
[07:38] <Newbs123> ill try to do the screenshot and paste it in imgur tho
[07:39] <Newbs123> here's the screenshot http://imgur.com/a/biXpx
[07:41] <auronandace> !resolvconf
[07:42] <Newbs123> http://imgur.com/BH2ZXwl
[07:44] <auronandace> Newbs123: at first glance it does seem like a network issue. you say you can ping google, do you mean it works with google.com or just the ip address 8.8.8.8?
[07:45] <Newbs123> ill try both now
[07:49] <fadavi> please see this thread and help me: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2362602
[07:50] <Newbs123> auronandace: it worked perfectly both without a cut ttl= 40 -50 time= 200-335 tops
[07:51] <Newbs123> it seemed my internet is a bit slow atm but i dont think thats enough reason for it. i do apt-get update it works fine from start to finish but when i do apt-get upgrade it gets errors
[07:52] <auronandace> Newbs123: you could try another mirror for your updates
[07:53] <Newbs123> uhmm could you point me to the right direction? sorry im like have 0% knowledge on this im just starting out.
[07:55] <auronandace> Newbs123: your /etc/apt/sources.list file shows the mirror you are using (i see ph in your screenshot)
[07:55] <Newbs123> ah yes so should i change everything that has ph in it to us or something?
[07:55] <Newbs123> auronandace: ah yes so should i change everything that has ph in it to us or something?
[07:56] <Newbs123> auronandace : oh ill just use google for it thanks. ill let you know what happens
[07:56] <auronandace> Newbs123: if you don't have access to a gui then editing that file would be your option yes
[07:58] <Newbs123> auronandace: ah yes no gui atm.
[07:58]  * Wegg waves 
[07:58] <Newbs123> auronandace: would this command work? sudo sed -i 's/http:\/\/us./http:\/\//g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:58] <Newbs123> hi Wegg
[07:58] <Wegg> hey Newbs123
[07:59] <auronandace> Newbs123: i'm not versed in sed so i couldn't help you there sorry
[07:59] <Newbs123> how are you Wegg
[07:59] <Newbs123> auronandace: ohh alright thanks. i just saw it in forum i guess no harm on trying
[07:59] <Wegg> I'm good.  Just installing Ubuntu again and thought I'd check out the noise in here.
[08:00] <Newbs123> ahh nice. same here installing and trying to get the problems fixed while at it.
[08:02] <Newbs123> auronandace: oh that command worked. replaced us. with ph. and it replaced all http://ph. to http:// in my sources list
[08:02] <Newbs123> auronandace : i run upgrade now and its all running smooth thanks :D
[08:03] <dariom> Good morning!
[08:03] <Newbs123> goodmorning dariom!
[08:04] <auronandace> Newbs123: glad to hear
[08:05] <Newbs123> auronandace after everything ive installed should i turn it back to ph or just leave it be?
[08:05] <Newbs123> ill try to install apps now such as openssh samba server and stuffs to try and make it work
[08:06] <auronandace> Newbs123: i don't know how reliable the ph mirror is so that is up to you
[08:06] <Newbs123> auronandace: but i wont have any problems if i dont put it back right? :D cool thanks
[08:07] <dariom> I have a question about iproute2: I need to make a tunnel between a pc and an ipv6 network through ipv4... I already tried to connect without problem two pc and I need to know if it's possible before go on, anyone could help me?
[08:08] <auronandace> Newbs123: no, no problems, it just means you are getting it from a different source. I'm in the UK so mine is set to GB and works fine for me
[08:08] <vlt> Hello. Our xrdp servers on Ubuntu 16.04 sometimes stop listening to port 3389 and no more logins are possible while all the old sessions are still running.
[08:08] <vlt> How can I "refresh" xrdp without having to destroy all the old sessions?
[08:12] <Newbs123> auronandace: thanks mate, ill try to figure out more problems that had popped up ill just ask here if i cant find it over google lol thanks you saved me !
[08:12] <auronandace> Newbs123: yay, happy to be useful
[08:13] <dariom> Can not anyone help me?
[08:14] <Newbs123> auronandace: hey btw if you are not too busy, i was wondering if you could give me a tip. im planning on adding a 4pcs 4tb nas drive in this and im planning to raid it could u point me to the best guide about it? someone told me the easiest was installing webmin and just doing clicks there on setting up raid. but idk i haven't tried yet
[08:14] <Newbs123> dariom: sorry mate im new to linux so i doubt i can help.
[08:14] <auronandace> !webmin | Newbs123
[08:15] <dariom> Newbs123: :D don't worry
[08:15] <auronandace> Newbs123: i have no experience in setting up servers or raid or nas sorry
[08:15] <auronandace> !raid | Newbs123
[08:16] <Newbs123> auronandace : ahh nice thanks alot man! really awesome!
[08:17] <grady> hmm, so i have screen tearing even on wayland and amd 7550 gpu
[08:20] <Wegg> hate that screen tearing
[08:20] <Wegg> grady: Ubuntu Unity?
[08:24] <grady> gnome :/
[08:24] <grady> why they not just fixing it
[08:25] <grady> they should stop all other developping and fix this first, then world is little bit better place ;)
[08:25] <hateball> Screentearing on Wayland, that sounds weird
[08:26] <hateball> and not only in xwayland windows? not sure if even that should happen
[08:26] <grady> hateball, i know.. i have amd/ati gpu and i use opensource drivers for it because amd own closed ones dosnt work with newer verision of x or wayland
[08:26] <hateball> grady: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[08:26] <grady> 17.10
[08:27] <grady> this box is ubuntu gnome but these things are the same
[08:27] <hateball> well that's not supported yet, breakage is expected :p
[08:27] <hateball> !ubuntu+1
[08:27] <grady> but not tearing.. this isnt so big deal for *4 or 10
[08:27] <grady> *6
[08:29] <hateball> grady: do you get tearing with say kde plasma as well?
[08:29] <hateball> if it's a compositor thing
[08:29] <grady> not tested that, i just thinking to try newest neo
[08:30] <grady> but i prefer gnome myself..
[08:30] <hateball> sure, just easier to find who to blame if you can try a different DE/WM
[08:31] <hateball> but neon uses a different kernel and mesa than ubuntu 17.10 I guess, so you could have issues there as well
[08:31] <grady> i dont even know yet how to configure wayland
[08:31] <grady> where the settings are and that sort of things :)
[08:32] <grady> but by default settings, tearing occurs, but the tearing occurs inside of a appplication window, like browser when you scroll the page.
[08:32] <Newbs123> auronandace: i tried installing now but i get another error from installing. i did update and upgrade all works fine.  should i try to switch to another server again?
[08:43] <shafox> How can I use rsync to download files using this uri: rsync://rsync.osuosl.org/musicbrainz/data/fullexport/ ?
[08:43] <PCatinean> hey guys, does the package "sudo" usually have upgrades?
[08:44] <PCatinean> I just saw it in my last update, looked...suspicious :))
[08:46] <vlt> PCatinean: Yes.
[08:57] <grady> PCatinean, every package can have updates
[08:58] <PCatinean> grady, yeah but sudo having an update could be dangerous if my repositories or something similar have been tampered with
[08:58] <PCatinean> with the first sudo it could email the password or something haha :))
[08:58] <grady> well no
[09:00] <adrian_1908> Hey guys, Dnsmasq is reachable over the IP 127.0.1.1, not 127.0.0.1, right?
[09:07] <msev-> Is it possible to redirect all linux logs to dev null? :)
[09:08] <msev-> that no writing on a SD card on a arm based computer happens because of logs
[09:10] <grady> you can kill your logging but that myth of that ssd or memcards broke because of logs is just a joke :) you have to thing more that what kind of filesystem you use on that
[09:16] <chalcedony> we fixed part of my husband's problem with his Ubuntu 16.04.. but now clicking his mouse (mice) still doesn't work, he can move the pointer, but clicking does nothing. This started from him clicking an email, which opened a website, then he couldn't click anything. help please?
[09:19] <FManTX> well, I am currently uploading Ubuntu to somebody in Kyrgyztan
[09:21] <chalcedony> FManTX, cool
[09:22] <grady> chalcedony, reboot.
[09:23] <chalcedony> grady, we have
[09:24] <chalcedony> i can try it again but even upgrading and cleaning older kernels hasn't affected what is happening with is mouse
[09:24] <grady> what mouse settings says
[09:27] <grady> is it mouse, not touchpad?
[09:33] <chalcedony> grady where is mouse settings? and yes logitech mice
[09:33] <chalcedony> well one is a trackball
[09:33] <chalcedony> but trying with a standard wired mouse, and the wireless trackball
[09:34] <YuGiOhJCJ> hello, my brother tries to install libgtk2.0 32-bit on his 64-bit Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS. He did: sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386, then sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0:i386 and here is the result: https://pastebin.com/juuMPfe5 (some packages could not be installed), how to solve that please?
[09:36] <Wiciu> What is the problem? administrator is connecting without problems to wifi but USER cant connect?
[09:37] <Wiciu> OK, I think I 've found and problem :-)
[09:38] <Newbs123> hi anyone got any idea? http://imgur.com/tDiVJQF heres what im getting when running apt-get install openssh-server samba smbclient cifs-utils ntp ntpdate
[09:38] <Newbs123> but when i run apt-get update, apt-get upgrade all works fine even ping to google.com and 8.8.8.8
[09:38] <Newbs123> i also changed sources already from ph to archive then tried us
[09:40] <vimar> hi
[09:40] <Newbs123> hi vimar
[09:41] <Wiciu> How you doing Newbs123
[09:41] <Newbs123> good good bro hows you?
[09:42] <Wiciu> not bad too Newbs123  thanks mate
[09:42] <Newbs123> good to hear :)
[09:51] <sauna> Requesting help regarding Ubuntu networking. I am familiar with debian style interfaces, but how exactly are these random named interfaces configured like enp10si10f ? I have a static route that messes up every physical link and I cannot figure out how to remove it
[09:52] <sauna> For example /etc/rc.local is empty, /etc/network/interfaces only has lo. /etc/resolv.conf has only nameserver 127.0.0.1 and search xxx.yy
[09:54] <sauna> I have Ubuntu 16.04
[09:54] <sauna> Where could be that the static routes are added in configuration ?
[09:55] <grady>  sauna, are you trying to use same conf files what you use on debian?
[09:55] <sauna> well yes
[09:55] <grady> :/
[09:55] <sauna> familiar with it, only downloaded ubuntu for Steam support
[09:55] <grady> people doing crazy things just for gaming...
[09:56] <chalcedony> :)
[09:57] <chalcedony> grady, i took a look at mouse settings. found this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/894893/how-to-reset-mouse-and-touchpad-settings-on-ubuntu-16-04  .. but cd /org/ .. No such file or directory .. I don't know what he has for mouse ?
[09:58] <sauna> what files would you change for static default route for physical interfaces ? Where are the physical interfaces even made - it is not in the interfaces file ...
[09:58] <Wiciu> Have I done it propelry: apt-get update then upd-get upgrade ?
[09:58] <Wiciu> Have I done it propelry: apt-get update then upt-get upgrade ?
[09:58] <grady> chalcedony, does it work if he using just one device at a time?
[09:59] <chalcedony> grady no. the pointer moves, but click does not work.
[09:59] <Wiciu> sorry mistakes :-)
[09:59] <Wiciu> Have I done it propelry: apt-get update then apt-get upgrade ?
[09:59] <sauna> Wiciu Yes, update then upgrade
[09:59] <grady> sauna, i think that you need to use graphical network setting tool what you can find from settings or right corner on unity.
[09:59] <sauna> oh my, graphical :( Those are the worst
[09:59] <grady> =)
[10:00] <grady> like i say, crazy things..
[10:00] <Wiciu> sauna: Cheers, just back to Linux after 12 years, and not familiar with ubuntu
[10:00] <chalcedony> Wiciu, ubuntu is with eye candy.
[10:00] <Wiciu> sauna: how's can upgrade brake the OS?
[10:01] <chalcedony> Wiciu, all devices are not equal. some mismatch probably
[10:01] <Wiciu> chalcedony: Its fine, I've use to have slack with XFce and KDE. Just want to have easy come back.
[10:01] <sauna> Wiciu, Upgrade does not usually break the OS. Have used for many years without any errors with the apt package manager.
[10:01] <chalcedony> Wiciu, you'll be fine
[10:01] <Wiciu> too 12years is quite a loooooonnnnngggg time
[10:02] <grady> so we have slack user here? :)
[10:02]  * chalcedony gets grady some chamomile tea
[10:02] <Wiciu> grady: I've used to, I've checked of course, but it seems slack DEATH?
[10:02] <grady> =)
[10:03] <sauna> Wiciu, I bet that you can download anything from apt and it would not break your system, same with upgrade, your system will be fine :D
[10:03] <Wiciu> I wish to believe you sauna :-)
[10:04] <chalcedony> Wiciu, things nearly always work
[10:04] <chalcedony> hubby's mouse not so much atm ;)
[10:04] <grady> chalcedony, hmm, try differend usb port
[10:04] <Wiciu> as you said chalcedony : nearly LOL
[10:05] <chalcedony> Wiciu, come back here if it doesn't
[10:05] <grady> wici, slackware main release is from last year but it gets updates, like it gets yesterday a sudo patch
[10:06] <Wiciu> grrrr
[10:06] <Wiciu> not so easy :-)
[10:06] <sauna> Well, Lets plug in, lose connection and try to use the graphical thingy...
[10:06] <chalcedony> ahh somebody mentioned a thing with sudo earlier - ty for saying that :)
[10:06] <grady> yep
[10:07] <Wiciu> http://i68.tinypic.com/2yv0vfq.jph some error and upgrade stoped
[10:07] <Wiciu> http://i68.tinypic.com/2yv0vfq.jpg some error and upgrade stoped
[10:08] <grady> tinypic.. noooo :) and your link isnt showing any pic, just ads
[10:08] <Wiciu> I cant bin paste :-(
[10:09] <grady> dropbox, drive? =)
[10:09] <Wiciu> I dont have configured it yet, just done fresh installation and wanted to upgrade
[10:09] <grady> hmm
[10:09] <Wiciu> just quick typing
[10:10] <grady> try use main server, not these local ones
[10:10] <Wiciu> blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 4794956
[10:10] <sauna_> Well yes the graphical thing worked :D I am impressed
[10:10] <grady> =)
[10:11] <grady> Wiciu, your hard drive or filesystem is broken :/
[10:11] <Wiciu> I was afraid of that :-)
[10:12] <Wiciu> but it stopped and doing nothing, can I just ctrl + Z?
[10:12] <grady> or c
[10:12] <grady> you need to change the drive anyways so..
[10:13] <Wiciu> IMHO its used laptop bought 3days ago
[10:14] <grady> new?
[10:14] <Wiciu> perhaps it came up because I were coping a lot files from DVD?
[10:14] <Wiciu> grady: nah, used one just for £65
[10:15] <grady> k, do you have any drives around
[10:15] <Wiciu> I can drive :-)
[10:15] <grady> =)
[10:16] <Wiciu> guys because I'm lost here now with this upgrading >>
[10:16] <Wiciu> I've repeat the apt-get upgrade
[10:17] <Wiciu> it has inform me what's upgraded howver says also some packages are kept back and:
[10:17] <Wiciu> 0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 9 not to upgrade
[10:18] <Wiciu> after that error I'm really confused what is going on now :z/
[10:18] <fallentree> Wiciu: those are probably packages that also remove old ones, so you'd need dist-upgrade for those
[10:18] <fallentree> Wiciu: but first make sure that's what you want. Which packages are held back?
[10:19] <Wiciu> fallentree: I think important, let me tell you:
[10:19] <fallentree> Wiciu: pastebin please
[10:19] <Newbs123> anyone have any idea on my problem? http://imgur.com/tDiVJQF internet is working fine update and upgrade is working fine just installing having problems
[10:20] <Wiciu> fallentree: wait then because I'm doing it on another laptop
[10:20] <fallentree> Wiciu: if it's one line, you can post here
[10:20] <Newbs123> switched sources from ph to http://archive and http://us.archive nothing seemed to work out.
[10:20] <grady> yep, if you doing fresh install, remove all applications what you really need, like i doing libreoffice is first what i called remove and fast =)
[10:20] <grady> what you really DONT need =)
[10:20] <grady> =)
[10:22] <Wiciu> fallentree: http://pastebin.com/BdJAcvj5
[10:23] <grady> apt-get autoremove
[10:23] <akik> grady: that's just your opinion
[10:23] <grady> akik, that is
[10:23] <hateball> grady: sr0 is dvd, not hdd
[10:23] <hateball> oops, I was scrolled up
[10:23] <YuGiOhJCJ> I think that the problem to install libgtk2.0 32-bit on his 64-bit Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS is related to that dependency problem: https://pastebin.com/CnZvuYRd isn't it? (the cli-common:i386 package is not installable but is a dependency for installing libgtk2.0)
[10:24] <fallentree> Wiciu: yeah you can dist-upgrade for those
[10:24] <fallentree> Wiciu: then also run apt autoremove
[10:25] <Wiciu> First I'm rebooting this ducker to see if this distro is working
[10:25] <grady> hateball, that i dont even know because ubuntu changes and renames things so often that i dont even look that =)
[10:25] <Wiciu> These distro is fancy etc, but absolutely not easier and less problematic than old ones
[10:25] <hateball> sr0 has been in use for... 20 years?
[10:25] <hateball> anyhow
[10:25] <Wiciu> I think it was easier earlier than today
[10:26] <grady> well my optical drive is cdrom0
[10:26] <grady> but i coming from debian also =)
[10:27] <Wiciu> fallentree: I'm doing it
[10:27] <Wiciu> I need a smoke now LOL
[10:28] <grady> we dont change stuff if it work ;)
[10:29] <fallentree> Wiciu: you'll need to reboot again as you're getting a new HWE kernel
[10:29] <Wiciu> fallentree: that I remember, thanks anyway ;-)
[10:30] <ws2k3> fallentree ur around?
[10:32] <fallentree> ws2k3: depends :)
[10:32] <grady> Wiciu, hateball is a valid point, sr0 is your optical drive, so mark it as # from /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:33] <chalcedony> grady, its a problem with his trackball. another one just like it is working fine now.
[10:33] <grady> somehow your system want to use it as a source for updates and applications
[10:33] <grady> chalcedony, oh, that great.
[10:33] <chalcedony> :))
[10:34] <ws2k3> fallentree can you tell me a little bit about how open file descriptors works in ubuntu 16.04?
[10:35] <ws2k3> fallentree in ubuntu 12.04 i just did memcache       hard    nofile         32767 in /etc/security/limits.conf but does this still work on 16.04?
[10:35] <Wiciu> hateball: I think that was the problem them, when I was upgrading in a meantime I were coping DVD to HDD
[10:35] <grady> oh
[10:36] <ws2k3> cause in 16.04 i noticed that i needed to put LimitMEMLOCK=infinity in my memcached.service file(for systemd) else it would not work
[10:36] <Wiciu> OK Im rebooting machine after upgrading
[10:37] <Wiciu> I dont want to smash another Laptop, I'm skinned :-)
[10:39] <vimar> Hi Guys - it seems upgrading went very well :-)
[10:39] <Wiciu> Thanks
[10:39] <Newbs123> nice
[10:40] <Wiciu> Thanks grady  fallentree hateball
[10:40] <Wiciu> and everyone
[10:40] <Wiciu> You guys are Good Men
[10:41] <hateball> I wouldnt go that far, but alright :D
[10:41] <fallentree> ws2k3: it's possible that systemd is changing the way you set up limits, I'm not sur
[10:41] <fallentree> ws2k3: s/sur/sure :)
[10:43] <fallentree> ws2k3: looking at the docs, you don't need infinity but a number should suffice. If you used 32767 before, than you should put that in
[10:43] <fallentree> infinity is bad
[10:46] <fallentree> ws2k3: also note that memcache has -c which may override systemd LimitNOFILE, if it's lower
[10:46] <ws2k3> fallentree thx for that
[10:47] <ws2k3> fallentree now another issue. when i run ulimit -n as root it shows me 1000000
[10:47] <ws2k3> now i have started another proces(not memcached)
[10:47] <ws2k3> fallentree cat /proc/865/limits shows me this: Max open files            1024                 4096                 files
[10:48] <fallentree> ws2k3: LimitNOFILE in service unit file completely overrides what's in /etc/security/limits.conf, because it's per service, not per user. ulimit shows per user, it's the old way
[10:48] <ws2k3> why my proces(thats runs as root) still have 1024 and 4096 as limit
[10:48] <aiena> How do I recall a command string from history but not execute it ? I read somewhere you can use "!<number>" e.g. if in history it is the 254'th item then "!254" writes it into the current shelll but also executes it. How do I get it on the prompt but not execute it ?
[10:48] <aiena> *shell
[10:49] <fallentree> ws2k3: I'm not sure but I think processes can lower that limit for themselves. Eg, nginx has an option that can override what's defined for it, but lower than system-set maximum.
[10:49] <ws2k3> aiena why not use history|grep "command ur looking for" and then just copy it?
[10:49] <aiena> ws2k3:  think of a server with no gui and mouse
[10:49] <aiena> so liets say we cant copy that way
[10:49] <aiena> there must be another way with keyboard alone
[10:50] <fallentree> aiena: hit Ctrl+R then start typing the command
[10:50] <fallentree> (assuming bash)
[10:50] <aiena> fallentree:  command number from history
[10:51] <aiena> hmm that works sort of
[10:51] <ws2k3> fallentree im pretty sure this proces does not limit it by itself
[10:51] <ws2k3> fallentree cause the same application on ubuntu 12.04 shows me this limit: Max open files            10240                10240                files
[10:51] <aiena> fallentree:  how do I navigate throught alternatives with <c-R> ?
[10:52] <aiena> lets say I have three commands in history starting with smbclient and I want to cherry pick one for modification
[10:52] <fallentree> aiena: not sure
[10:53] <aiena> ok
[10:53] <aiena> fallentree:  suppose I pipe the command to vi
[10:53] <aiena> can I make whatever I typed in vi execute at shell prompt ?
[10:54] <aiena> i forgot I know there is a way to pop up vi in the middle of typing to edit a command but forgot what you need to press for that but this is the reverse
[10:54] <ws2k3> fallentree i start the application from rc.local and then i have that limit
[10:55] <ws2k3> fallentree now i stopped the application and started it manualy again and now the max open files are correct
[10:55] <fallentree> aiena: https://sanctum.geek.nz/arabesque/vi-mode-in-bash/
[10:55] <ws2k3> fallentree so it seems only at boot(when started from rc.local) i have this issue
[10:55] <fallentree> ws2k3: is this on 16.04?
[10:55] <aiena> fallentree:  hmm not talking about "set -o vi"
[10:55] <konrados> How can I find out if I have installed 'kubuntu' or 'ubuntu' and then I installed kde? I mean - I really don't remember. $cat /etc/lsb-release gives me DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS" - does it mean it's ubuntu + kde?
[10:55] <aiena> but let me see your url
[10:55] <ws2k3> fallentree yes on 16.04 LTS
[10:56] <hateball> konrados: yes, kubuntu is ubuntu base with different default packages
[10:56] <aiena> there is something that you type which actually opens up "vim" then you write out to a buffer and then on :wq your command string is updated and you press enter to run it
[10:56] <hateball> konrados: it will always show Ubuntu
[10:56] <fallentree> ws2k3: then why not write a service unit file for it? It's very easy, that's why systemd was invented, to cut the crap with all the init and configuration morass
[10:56] <aiena> once you install vim most distro's symlink vi to vim
[10:57] <konrados> hateball, thanks, so I can't say if it's kubuntu or ubuntu and then kde installed separately?
[10:57] <fallentree> aiena: I don't know but.... why don't you write to a file and then execute it?
[10:57] <hateball> konrados: well, if it is ubuntu + kde then you likely have ubuntu-desktop and a lot of gnome stuff installed as well
[10:57] <ws2k3> fallentree yes after boot the issue is back again Max open files            1024                 4096                 files
[10:57] <aiena> fallentree:  hmm that could work too :) with redirection
[10:58] <aiena> e.g. !254 > foo.sh && vi foo.sh
[10:58] <aiena> let me try that
[10:58] <konrados> hateball, - thank you! Yes, I have some gnome stuff.
[10:58] <hateball> konrados: but you can just as well have installed kubuntu and then some GTK app
[10:58] <fallentree> ws2k3: it's possible systemd is interfering. there's actually a rc-local systemd service that wraps around the old rc local stuff, so it's possible it's imposing the defaults
[10:59] <fallentree> ws2k3: really writing a unit file for your service is the best approach with systemd, and there you can set up whatever limits
[10:59] <aiena> fallentree:  nah doesnt work
[10:59] <hateball> konrados: the various metapackages for ubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop will however not be a dependency for anything you install after initial install
[10:59] <Wiciu> konrados: of course you've some GNOME stuff because these come with UBUNTU. You just had add another enviroment that's KDE
[11:00] <Wiciu> konrados: if you like KDE, perhaps have a loot at Kubuntu.
[11:00] <aiena> fallentree:  echo !<number> > foo.sh works
[11:00] <aiena> thanks for the brain wave
[11:00] <MrMojit0> When I have choice the option: Encrypt the new Ubuntu installation for security (you will choose a security key in the next step).
[11:00] <aiena> but this is a workaround because we proxy through a file but better than nothing
[11:01] <MrMojit0> Do I also need to encrypt my home folder? I´m the only one who is gonna make use of this laptop so no other users are using it
[11:01] <fallentree> aiena: so what _exactly_ are you trying to achieve? you're looking up a command in `history` by number and you want it laid out on the command line so you can edit before execution?
[11:01] <Newbs123> anyone have any idea on my problem? http://imgur.com/tDiVJQF internet is working fine update is working fine
[11:03] <fallentree> aiena: maybe this would help:  https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/160356/how-do-i-auto-complete-a-command-from-the-command-history
[11:03] <fallentree> aiena: the number 4. of the accepted answer, add that to ~/.inputrc
[11:03] <fallentree> aiena: then open a new shell or logout/login. you start typing the command, and then arrows up and down will scroll through all the commands in history that START with what you typed.
[11:04] <fallentree> aiena: simpler and easier than Ctrl+R and will get you quickly to the command for editing it before exec (esp. if in vi modE)
[11:05] <fallentree> Newbs123: can you manually wget the URL listed under "E: Failed to fetch <url>"  ?
[11:06] <fallentree> MrMojit0: no, with full disk encryption you don't additionally need to encrypt your home unless for some reason you want to
[11:07] <MrMojit0> fallentree: Thank you for the kind information. I was already reading online was a bit to soon to ask.
[11:07] <Newbs123> fallentree ill try
[11:08] <Newbs123> fallentree nope cant. when i do apt-get upgrade i get most of it then at the end it gets error
[11:10] <fallentree> Newbs123: alwyas the same IP for Connection Failed line?
[11:10] <fallentree> s/alwyas/always/
[11:13] <Newbs123> yeah
[11:13] <Newbs123> fallentree yeah same
[11:14] <Newbs123> fallentree its a fresh install ubuntu server 14.04 trusty tahr only thing i did here that was succesful was apt-get update and add nameservers on /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head
[11:15] <glick> hi
[11:15] <glick> does anyone know how i can convert mp4 to ogg theora
[11:15] <fallentree> Newbs123: can you ping the IP?  use   ping -c 3 <ip-here>   for example
[11:15] <fallentree> glick: using ffmpeg for example
[11:15] <glick> i tried with vlc in mac but the sound was glitchy
[11:16] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:16] <Newbs123> fallentree i get 0% packet loss when i pinged it
[11:17] <Newbs123> fallentree i also tried switching sources list from ph.archive to just archive
[11:19] <konrados> hateball, Wiciu - thanks again!
[11:20] <Wiciu> Nah bother pal
[11:20] <fallentree> Newbs123: can you resolve? does `host archive.ubuntu.com` respond with ip addresses?
[11:22] <Newbs123> fallentree sorry i got confused im new to this do you mean me to ping archive.ubuntu.com?
[11:22] <Newbs123> fallentree if so i just did and iget 0 loss too
[11:23] <ajnr> Hi I was trying to send a large file size 13.2 GB from client machine (Ubuntu) to Server machine (CentOS). I used scp rsync. but in the destination i have not received the exact size of file. I received 12.2 GB file only. May I know any process to copy the exact amount of file from source to destination.
[11:23] <ajnr> Please help me
[11:24] <fallentree> Newbs123: well then I suppose that particular mirror is having issues, or something else is breaking the connection. if pings work (esp. by hostname), then it's not routing nor dns.
[11:24] <EriC^^> ajnr: try to do a checksum on both files to see that they're the same, it might be a difference in filesystem or half empty blocks
[11:25] <ajnr> EriC^^, yes tried , they are same
[11:25] <EriC^^> ajnr: ok so what's the problem? why do you want the exact size?
[11:25] <fallentr1e> the difference is between GB and GiB
[11:25] <fallentr1e> 13.2 GB ~ 12.2 GiB
[11:26] <ajnr> fallentr1e, 13.2GB
[11:27] <ajnr> EriC^^, I check the content, its missing at the end
[11:27] <fallentr1e> ajnr: yes, and that's 12.2 GiB  note the difference between GB and GiB
[11:27] <EriC^^> ajnr: how's that possible if you checksummed it?
[11:27] <fallentr1e> yah
[11:27] <ajnr> Eric^^ dont know
[11:29] <Newbs123> fallentree sorry i got dc'ed anyway what you think i should do? could you please point me to the right direction? thanks
[11:30] <fallentree> Newbs123: Can you browse http://archive.ubuntu.com in the browser?
[11:30] <Newbs123> wait lemme check in this machine im using
[11:30] <FManTX> "Downloaded: 27 files, 714M in 0s (1395408448 GB/s)" :D
[11:30] <Newbs123> fallentree yes
[11:31] <Newbs123> fallentree yes im looking at it right now
[11:31] <fallentree> ajnr: when you do `stat <filename> | grep Size`  (use proper filename) on both machines, does it show exactly the same size in bytes?
[11:32] <Newbs123> fallentree i even browsed through the file the server was trying to get
[11:33] <fallentree> Newbs123: well, you can try `apt-get clean` to clear local caches and try again. doesn't make sense though if you can browse to it, but not wget from command line, on the same machine.
[11:33] <Newbs123> ah different machine tho. im using windows pc to browse it
[11:33] <Newbs123> fallentree ah different machine tho. im using windows pc to browse it
[11:33] <fallentree> Newbs123: eh
[11:33] <fallentree> you should check on the same machine
[11:34] <Newbs123> oh but i do not have gui on the ubuntu server
[11:34] <fallentree> Newbs123: and the ping tests, you did on that machine or on your windows pc?
[11:34] <dckx> hi, I'm trying to configure my touchpad but the settings I add to /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf are lost after rebooting. Is there a way to make these changes persistent?
[11:34] <Newbs123> fallentree no that was on the ubuntu server machine
[11:34] <Newbs123> everything else except the browsing part is on that ubuntu server
[11:35] <auronandace> Newbs123: you could use a commandline browser like links
[11:35] <fallentree> Newbs123: so, ping by hostname is okay, but you can't wget the URL, correct?
[11:35] <Newbs123> yes
[11:35] <Newbs123> auronandace: thanks ill go look it up on google.
[11:36] <fallentree> Newbs123: can you wget any other URL? say wget https://google.com
[11:36] <Newbs123> fallentree: yes ping by hostname is ok but cant do wget
[11:36] <Newbs123> fallentree yes i just did now wget https://google.com
[11:36] <Newbs123> everything was ok
[11:36] <fallentree> Newbs123: broken mirror then
[11:36] <MrMojit0> When I press on install for VirtualBox it keeps saying ¨Installing¨. It seems it freezed or is stuck. Does this mean I need to reboot or am I overconcerned
[11:37] <Newbs123> fallentree: what do i do? ive tried searching all over the net nobody seems to have the same problem as mine tho lol
[11:38] <fallentree> Newbs123: try another mirror  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[11:39] <fallentree> Newbs123: or try another by country code in domain, like us.archive.ubuntu.com
[11:40] <Newbs123> fallentree so you mean ill change the ones on my sources list? i kinda did that already originally from ph.archive to just archive then tried gb.archive too
[11:40] <Newbs123> fallentree ill try to do us now see if it works thanks
[11:40] <fallentree> Newbs123: so gb didn't work either?
[11:40] <Newbs123> yeah i got errors too
[11:40] <Newbs123> tried those before posting here earlier
[11:41] <Newbs123> if it works on my browser pc it shouldnt be a problem with my isp right?
[11:41] <fallentree> Newbs123: try https instead of http in URLs of sources
[11:41] <Newbs123> fallentree alright ill test it out now
[11:41] <Newbs123> btw everytime i change source i should run apt-get update first before upgrade and installs right?>
[11:42] <fallentree> Newbs123: yeah
[11:42] <fallentree> Newbs123: also pastebin the /etc/apt/sources.list please
[11:42] <ws2k3> fallentree i have a strange issue.
[11:43] <ws2k3> fallentree i have started my application with a systemd unit file. but still the limits are not unlimited
[11:43] <ws2k3> fallentree Max open files            1024                 4096                 files
[11:43] <fallentree> ws2k3: have you set the LimitNOFILE in the service unit file?
[11:43] <Newbs123> fallentree idk how to pastebin yet i havent installed anything on the server yet tho
[11:43] <Newbs123> right now im using https://archive.ubuntu.com on sources
[11:43] <Newbs123> running update now
[11:44] <fallentree> Newbs123: cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:44] <Newbs123> oh one sec ill do that after the update
[11:44] <fallentree> Newbs123: strange thing if the update is working fine, it's using the same sources.....
[11:45] <Newbs123> fallentree yeah thats what i thought too.
[11:46] <Newbs123> fallentree earlier when auronandace taught me to switch sources update and upgrade worked, but installs didnt. and after a while upgrade didnt work too
[11:46] <auronandace> Newbs123: is it a physical server?
[11:47] <Newbs123> yes
[11:47] <Newbs123> fallentree ok now that i switched to https i get errors too on update
[11:47] <Newbs123> saying connection refused
[11:47] <auronandace> Newbs123: are you using some kind of proxy?
[11:48] <glick> hey can anyone recommend a good pdf viewer?
[11:48] <ws2k3> fallentree i have LimitMEMLOCK=infinity
[11:48] <Newbs123> auronandace no not at all, iwanted to thinking it could bypass the problem but i did not now how to do it too lol
[11:48] <Newbs123> glick foxit i guess?
[11:48] <fallentree> ws2k3: so how are you getting that "Max open files   1024 ..." line?
[11:50] <glick> Newbs123: foxit is not free software
[11:50] <fallentree> Newbs123: can you pastebin the exact output, but please use termbin.com, don't screenshot. full output of operation that errors out
[11:50] <ws2k3> fallentree with cat /proc/$pid/limits
[11:50] <Newbs123> fallentree should i cancel this update now?
[11:50] <auronandace> glick: evince works well for me
[11:50] <dckx> test
[11:50] <fallentree> Newbs123: it's still working?
[11:51] <Newbs123> fallentree yes still showing failed stuffs
[11:51] <Newbs123> ok it just ended
[11:51] <Newbs123> fallentree how do it get it to tremblin again?
[11:51] <fallentree> Newbs123: ok, do two things please, pastebin the sources.list and the full output of apt upgrade
[11:51] <fallentree> Newbs123: cat <file> | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:52] <Newbs123> where can i get the file for the output of apt update?
[11:52] <hateball> Newbs123: that gets on stdout, in front you
[11:53] <hateball> Newbs123: if you mean the logs of upgrade, then it is in /var/log/apt/history*
[11:53] <Newbs123> ahh alright thanks
[11:53] <fallentree> Newbs123: run `script` to get the script shell, then run apt upgrade in it, then exit, then     cat typescript | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:54] <fallentree> you can remove the typscript file after you're done if you want
[11:54] <auronandace> Newbs123: you can run the command and pipe it: sudo apt upgrade | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:54] <Newbs123> ok lemme give you the one from sources its probably easier
[11:54] <YuGiOhJCJ> oh it was not libgtk2.0 but libgtk2.0-0, problem solved
[11:55] <Newbs123> fallentree http://termbin.com/8vpc
[11:55] <Newbs123> auronandace thanks ill do that now
[11:55] <ws2k3> fallentree cat /proc/1742/limits Max open files            1024                 4096                 files
[11:56] <Newbs123> fallentree auronandace http://termbin.com/e549 and http://termbin.com/8vpc
[11:57] <fallentree> Newbs123: do that thing with script please so I can see the entire unmangled output.
[11:57] <Newbs123> fallentree ok
[11:57] <fallentree> ws2k3: frankly, no idea unless that process is setting the limits itself
[12:00] <Newbs123> fallentree the script from the apt update might take a while
[12:00] <Newbs123> still running atm
[12:00] <ws2k3> fallentree so LimitMEMLOCK=infinity is enough? i do not need the LimitNOFILE ?
[12:01] <fallentree> ws2k3: uh those are two different things
[12:01] <fallentree> and indeed you did say you used MEMLOCK, sorry I misread
[12:02] <fallentree> so you need LimitNOFILE for "Max open files"
[12:03] <ws2k3> fallentree i have added it LimitNOFILE=infinity and now it shows Max open files            65536                65536                files
[12:05] <ws2k3> fallentree i have now LimitNOFILE=1000000 and now i get Max open files            1000000              1000000              files  so it works now
[12:06] <fallentree> ws2k3: 1M open files is quite a lot, perhaps you need a saner limit
[12:06] <Newbs123> fallentree http://termbin.com/q9rc
[12:07] <Wiciu> I wanted share files beetween ubuntu's in network (Local Network Share) and is asking me to install: Sharing service is not installed- and asks me to install SAMBA- I thought this is to share files in network beetween Lin>Win.
[12:07] <fallentree> Newbs123: well I guess https isn't a solution. Can you revert back to http and try again please?
[12:08] <Newbs123> alright
[12:09] <Newbs123> fallentree http://termbin.com/u2bn
[12:09] <fallentree> Wiciu: samba is used for general sharing, not assuming it's only between ubuntus
[12:10] <fallentree> Newbs123: yeah so update works, what about upgrade?
[12:10] <Newbs123> running now
[12:10] <Newbs123> il post it after its done
[12:10] <fallentree> k
[12:10] <Wiciu> fallentree: alright then.
[12:11] <Newbs123> fallentree mostlikely its not cause its stucked at -% [waiting for headers] for almost a minute now
[12:11] <Newbs123> 0%*
[12:12] <fallentree> Newbs123: is this a standalone machine or a VM?
[12:12] <Newbs123> fallentree its a stand alone machine
[12:13] <Newbs123> board is intel s1200bts with 8gb of ram has an 128gb samsung ssd in it for the os and four 4tb wd red in it
[12:13] <Newbs123> so far all i get to do is install this ubuntu server 14.04 and do an apt update lol
[12:15] <auronandace> Newbs123: i noticed from your sources.list that you pasted you are using 14.04.1, any reason you didn't get the latest 14.04.5?
[12:16] <Newbs123> auronandace: ahh nothing really its just the installer i got from a friend. told me to test on it and its the one he used to build is own samba file server at home
[12:17] <BluesKaj> no upsates/upgrades?
[12:17] <auronandace> Newbs123: if you are running into an old bug it might be worth trying the latest version of the install media
[12:17] <auronandace> Newbs123: 16.04 is also lts
[12:18] <Newbs123> auronandace fallentree : http://termbin.com/xfbi heres the one from apt-get upgrade
[12:25] <MrMojit0> Yes, finally got VirtualBox running as first application on my Ubuntu desktop
[12:27] <fallentree> Newbs123: sorry I have no idea, that simply doesn't make any sense
[12:28] <fallentree> unless something in your network is doing deep packet inspection and messing things up
[12:32] <auronandace> Newbs123: apt-get update is working but apt-get upgrade is not. that doesn't make sense to me. why would you be able to check updates but not able to download and install them?
[12:34] <auronandace> Newbs123: since it is a fresh install you may as well try more recent install media. that way if you don't run into the same problem then it was a bug that got fixed
[12:35] <fallentree> auronandace: thing is, he can't even wget the url
[12:35] <Newbs123> auronandace fallentree yeah sorry for the delayed response ill try to download the latest version see if it works and start reinstalling.
[12:35] <Newbs123> should i get the 14.04.5 or the 16.04?
[12:36] <auronandace> Newbs123: up to you, 14.04 is supported till 2019 if that has any bearing on your choice
[12:36] <MrMojit0> For my work I need some Windows applications to run and since I´m new to Ubuntu it was importanted for me to have VirtualBox installed so I can open Windows when necassery
[12:36] <Newbs123> auronandace tbh idk the difference could you recommend which is best? im just trying to make a samba file server with raid  in it
[12:37] <fallentree> Newbs123: then go with 16.04
[12:37] <auronandace> Newbs123: for servers it is best to go for an lts release so 16.04 is the latest lts so that would likely be the best choice
[12:37] <Newbs123> fallentree alright ill go find the download link thanks
[12:38] <Newbs123> fallentree & auronandace thank you so much i do apologize for wasting your time on me :D
[12:38] <auronandace> Newbs123: the iso for 14.04.1 was from 2014 so who knows what got fixed in the meantime
[12:38] <Newbs123> there are 2 on the site Ubuntu Server 17.04 and Ubuntu Server 16.04.2 LTS
[12:39] <auronandace> Newbs123: 16.04.2 lts, servers are usually best with lts
[12:39] <Newbs123> auronandace ahh cool thanks
[12:39] <auronandace> Newbs123: 17.04 will only be supported 9 months from release
[12:39] <auronandace> Newbs123: lts are supported 5 years
[12:40] <Newbs123> i see cool thanks
[12:40] <Newbs123> wait im thinking maybe its because of my installer? cause the guy who gave the installer to me told me he burnt the iso on the cd whilst i used a usb bootable to do mine?
[12:41] <auronandace> Newbs123: ubuntu isos can be burnt to cd or usb, theyare hybrid
[12:42] <Newbs123> yeah so its not on my installer alright ill just get the new one
[12:42] <auronandace> Newbs123: anyway, you said the install went fine, you boot the server fine after installing it and you gete issues when trying to upgrade
[12:43] <Len> hmm can someone help me a bit with "VFS: Found ext4 filesystem with invalid superblock checkusm." it's on encrypted partition and atm I'm in "emergency mode"
[12:43] <Newbs123> auronandace yes that is correct
[12:46] <auronandace> Newbs123: you mentioned you changed resolv.conf earlier, pastebinning those changes might shed some light on what went wrong
[12:47] <Newbs123> auronandace http://termbin.com/j5lv
[12:47] <Newbs123> i only added nameserver 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 to it
[12:49] <fallentree> wasn't a dns issue, he could access stuff by hostname, even ping archive.ubuntu.com
[12:50] <auronandace> Newbs123: you can ping google.com and 8.8.8.8 just fine but wget doesn't work. you can update fine but upgrade doesn't work. this is most puzzling
[12:50] <fallentree> wget google.com worked
[12:51] <auronandace> ah, just the specific archive wget didn't work?
[12:51] <fallentree> yes, but then update did
[12:51] <Newbs123> http://termbin.com/gupk check this i tried to ping archive.ubuntu.com i suddenly had a 37% loss
[12:52] <fallentree> Newbs123: try a bigger packet count, say ping -c 20
[12:52] <Newbs123> fallentree on it!
[12:53] <Newbs123> for some reason its kinda pinging slow now.
[12:53] <Newbs123> maybe because im downloading the latest lts lol
[12:53] <fallentree> that shouldn't cause packet loss unless a router/hop upstream is overloaded
[12:53] <Newbs123> fallentree http://termbin.com/baz5
[12:55] <fallentree> yeah, looks good except that time but I suppose that's because you're running download over a crappy router
[12:55] <fallentree> or... router deprioritizing icmp which is not so crappy  :)
[12:55] <Newbs123> i saw one article and it said "Replace url in.archive.ubuntu.com and security.ubuntu.com with old-releases.ubuntu.com"
[12:57] <Newbs123> but im kinda scared i wont be able to turn it back if it didnt work lol
[12:57] <fallentree> Newbs123: that's for EOL upgrades, when you upgrade from an EOL'd release
[12:57] <Newbs123> ohh
[12:59] <Newbs123> is it ok to use rufus to burn the iso to usb? or best do it manually?
[12:59] <boboma> hello. Debian has release a fixed version of VLC some days ago. When is ubuntu following?
[12:59] <fallentree> Newbs123: if you can wget the ISO from this installation of Ubuntu, you can simply dd it to the USB
[12:59] <fallentree> !info VLC
[12:59] <fallentree> boboma: it's in universe, so whenever the community provides an update
[13:00] <fallentree> boboma: consider VLC from snaps, those are directly from the vendor and should be frequently up to date
[13:00] <Newbs123> fallentree oh i kinda downloaded it on the pc im using atm lol
[13:01] <fallentree> Newbs123: then you'll need one of those tools, none of which I'm familiar with
[13:02] <Newbs123> fallentree yep. i wanna switch to an entire ubuntu badly. but maybe one step at a time lol
[13:02] <Desetude> Hey all, my friend has installed Ubuntu, and it launches successfully. But the GRUB menu to choose which entry isn't shown, how can he enable it?
[13:03] <fallentree> Desetude: iirc you press and hold the Shift key while it's booting. grub menu is hidden by default unless the last boot was unsuccessful. There should be an option to make it permanently available, though.
[13:04] <Desetude> Where is that option?
[13:05] <fallentree> Desetude: edit /etc/default/grub and comment out (put # at the beginning of the) line GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0, then update grub with  `sudo update-grub`
[13:08] <Newbs123> im only at installation and im already having unknown to mankind problems. is this a sign that linux is not for me? lol
[13:09] <fallentree> Newbs123: it's very likely something has changed since 14.04 (and fixed in 14.04.x) in the format of package metadata and it breaks with a misleading/unhelpful message that you get
[13:10] <Newbs123> hmm yeah. im also figuring maybe from the updates that i get that is no longer matching with the old server i have
[13:11] <Newbs123> fallentree thanks anyway for helping out you too auronandace. i hope i didn't give you guys a headache lol
[13:11] <fallentree> and you did get an iso from a friend, so it's probably an older image with problems like this
[13:12] <fallentree> yw :)
[13:13] <Newbs123> fallentree yeah but the thing is he is still using the same server he used it on. though he said since he installed it like 2 years back he hasn't done anything else to it not an upgrade or update to it
[13:13] <john_rambo> I see there a lot of packages similar to wine .... I want to install wine ..Which package should I install ?
[13:14] <Newbs123> alright installers ready. lets try this out
[13:14] <fallentree> Newbs123: well there -- he didn't upgrade :)
[13:14] <fallentree> Newbs123: so he doesn't have this issue, lol. He does, however, have a megaton of other issues, security primarily.
[13:14] <Newbs123> fallentree: if it aint broke dont fix it method ? lol
[13:15] <fallentree> Newbs123: except it IS broken.
[13:15] <fallentree> hence updates with bug and security fixes.
[13:15] <Newbs123> fallentree so far he didn't have any issues but i think if he did do an upgrade it would probably have tons of issues lol
[13:16] <fallentree> exactly
[13:16] <Newbs123> anyway will the commands i used on the old version still work on the 16?
[13:16] <Newbs123> cause ive read somewhere that the commands he used to use on the old versions no longer works on the new ones
[13:16] <fallentree> I hope you do realize how stupidly insane it is to run a 3 year old server that has never upgraded.
[13:16] <Newbs123> some*
[13:17] <Newbs123> i kinda get the picture. lol, so mostlikely if he is to upgrade he'd need to redo the whole server right?
[13:17] <john_rambo> I want to install wine from the command line ... Dont want to use the GUI ..Any ideas ?
[13:17] <fallentree> Newbs123: the init is systemd, as of 15.04, so that changes the way you interact with the services, although the old "servic X start" and friends is still supported
[13:17] <maddawg2> Newbs123, yes i would just rebuild at this point
[13:17] <Newbs123> i see
[13:17] <maddawg2> dont just do a dist upgrade might break stuff
[13:17] <maddawg2> might not
[13:17] <fallentree> Newbs123: it's not just the redoing, the problem is in unpatched software on a server which is, because it's a server, available over a network.
[13:17] <Newbs123> maddawg2 i see
[13:18] <maddawg2> but personally if it's an important server then i would just redo it
[13:18] <maddawg2> what is it serving
[13:18] <maddawg2> i mean alot of this entirely depends on what kind of server it is
[13:19] <Newbs123> maddawg2 he kinda have alot of project files in it. he's a freelance vfx artist. so mostly video files are init i think its running on a raid 10 with 4 3tb wd drives
[13:19] <maddawg2> the term "server" is a bit generic i mean it could be "serving" anything from your home music collection to proprietary files
[13:19] <Newbs123> he uses it the same as im trying to do just as a samba file server
[13:19] <maddawg2> well has he considered using a NAS or SAN to store the files
[13:19] <rory> When might I want to use "exec" in an upstart script, instead of just running a command directly?
[13:20] <maddawg2> i mean not neccessary but it's nice to keep the files elsewhere in case yo need to douche the server
[13:20] <Newbs123> i think he mentioned it but he said they were too expensive and he had an extra computer lying around so he just used it
[13:20] <maddawg2> i have a synology i think i paid like $600 all said and done for 16TB
[13:21] <maddawg2> Newbs123, is it a virtual machine (the server that is)
[13:22] <Newbs123> maddawg2 nah its a physical machine aswell but its components are not really like server stuffs. he's using a normal pc stuffs i7 processors and regular ddr3 rams
[13:23] <maddawg2> yea.. that can run vmware esxi just fine, the hard part now with starting over on that machine is that there's risk of lsing the data unless you're super careful
[13:23] <maddawg2> or move it externally to something to back it up
[13:23] <maddawg2> then start over
[13:24] <maddawg2> the reason i say that is that the newer versions of ubuntu have new ways of doing things (like network configuration) and startup scripts so you'd have to redo alot of the setup anyways
[13:24] <maddawg2> it's much easier to just rebuild and reconfigure SAMBA from scratch
[13:24] <maddawg2> doing a dist upgrade might break some stuff (might not tho)
[13:25] <Newbs123> hmm yeah i figured that much. the only hard part for him probably would be backing up and restoring those terrabytes of files
[13:25] <maddawg2> cloud drive?
[13:25] <maddawg2> what's his upload speed?
[13:25] <Newbs123> ah that idk
[13:25] <maddawg2> cuz maybe i could provide him a temporary unlimited google drive
[13:26] <maddawg2> he could upload the files there (could take weeks tho)
[13:26] <Newbs123> btw im installing right now an 16.04 lts and when i get to choose software to install a certain standard system utils are checked should i uncheck it? it wasn't there when i installed 14.04 lts lol
[13:26] <boboma> fallentree, where to find vlc snaps=
[13:26] <maddawg2> or you guys get an external drive or NAS (which is what i'd do anyways if I were him if he only wants SAMBA)
[13:27] <fallentree> maddawg2: where did you get the temporary unlimited google drive that will accept TBs of upload AND download?
[13:27] <maddawg2> fallentree, from google?
[13:27] <Newbs123> maddawg2 oh i see ill go ask him later and let you know
[13:27] <maddawg2> it's part of the gsuite fallentree
[13:27] <Newbs123> lol
[13:27] <maddawg2> it's only $10 a month
[13:27] <fallentree> boboma: `sudo snap install vlc`   :)
[13:27] <fallentree> $10 is 1TB
[13:27] <maddawg2> i can simply add a user under my "business"
[13:27] <maddawg2> no it isnt
[13:28] <maddawg2> it's $10 per user for unlimited google drive for business
[13:28] <fallentree> looking at the price list :)
[13:28] <maddawg2> https://gsuite.google.com/pricing.html?tab_activeEl=tabset-companies
[13:28] <maddawg2> look under business
[13:28] <maddawg2> $10 per month per user
[13:28] <boboma> fallentree, is this a trustworthy source?
[13:29] <fallentree> maddawg2: read the fine print ;)
[13:29] <maddawg2> but they dont enforce the the 1TB limit for users under 5
[13:29] <maddawg2> yes i know the fine print
[13:29] <fallentree> boboma: yes, snaps are (probably) the future of package delivery, and are fully officially supported on Ubuntu, being a product of Canonical ;)
[13:29] <maddawg2> i have unlimited
[13:29] <maddawg2> it's well known it's not enforced
[13:29] <MrMojit0> What is a good client to install remote connecting software?
[13:29] <maddawg2> in fact i have 22TB on my gdrive
[13:29] <fallentree> boboma: but eh... yeah, those come straight from the vendor so "trustworthy" depends on the vendor's practices
[13:30] <Newbs123> i wonder if google drive can be opened in mainland china lol
[13:30] <maddawg2> and if you remove a user within 1 month you dont ge tbilled for that use
[13:30] <fallentree> maddawg2: that's awesome then.
[13:30] <maddawg2> fallentree, indeed... i use it for my plex server
[13:30] <boboma> fallentree, thx
[13:31] <maddawg2> so i can simply add a user to my gsuite and remove it within 30 days to avoid the bill.. effectively given him a temporary unlimited drive
[13:31] <maddawg2> not worth it tho if he has an upload of like 4mbps... it'd take months to get the data there lol
[13:31] <maddawg2> i have a gigabit pipe so i can upload TB in a matter of days
[13:32] <Newbs123> whats your up speed maddawg2?
[13:32] <maddawg2> it's a symmetrical gigabit connection
[13:32] <maddawg2> technically i'm only guarenteed 940/880 but i get more than that
[13:32] <Newbs123> damn fast
[13:32] <maddawg2> typically my uploads are around 940 as well
[13:33] <Newbs123> i get like 50 here lol
[13:33] <Newbs123> max
[13:33] <Newbs123> lol
[13:33] <maddawg2> yea for $70 a month it's nothing
[13:33] <Newbs123> done installing ubuntu 16.04
[13:33] <MrMojit0> Anyone that could me out on a good remote desktop for Ubuntu to connect to other servers?
[13:33] <Newbs123> time to setup network
[13:33] <Newbs123> i hope its still the same
[13:33] <maddawg2> what packages did you select Newbs123
[13:33] <maddawg2> also which ubuntu did you install?
[13:33] <maddawg2> server or desktop
[13:34] <Newbs123> i installed server 16.04 lts
[13:34] <maddawg2> gotcha
[13:34] <glick> MrMojit0: remote desktop? X has a remote option
[13:34] <glick> us ssh with the -g option
[13:34] <Newbs123> and for the packages i only selected the one already selected the install standard system utilities
[13:34] <maddawg2> i typically only install the base system and add what i need after
[13:35] <MrMojit0> glick: I read about Remmina
[13:35] <maddawg2> but that's just preference... prob doesnt really matter tbh
[13:35] <maddawg2> just make sure you do an upggrade
[13:35] <Newbs123> ok
[13:35] <Newbs123> so right now ill setup the static netowrk
[13:35] <maddawg2> sudo apt-get upgrade and also do a dist-upgrade just in case
[13:35] <maddawg2> sometimes there are updates after an install
[13:36] <maddawg2> unless you do the net install or select download updates during install or whatever it's called
[13:36] <Newbs123> i see
[13:37] <Newbs123> would it still be /etc/network/interfaces to do the static networking?
[13:38] <Newbs123> ok i guess not the path was blank lol
[13:39] <maddawg2> yes but i think it's slightly different in how it's configured now
[13:39] <maddawg2> there is no eth1 or whatever
[13:39] <maddawg2> see this: http://www.configserverfirewall.com/ubuntu-linux/ubuntu-set-static-ip-address/
[13:39] <maddawg2> not official ubuntu but it's very straightforward for a newb
[13:40] <fallentree> Newbs123: you can still use that file for static network config. although the pattern nowadays is to use a file in /etc/network/interfaces.d/  named after the interface you're configuring
[13:41] <fallentree> it's the same format as the proper interfaces file
[13:41] <Newbs123> fallentree yeah but the path with /etc/network/interfaces is blank now
[13:41] <Newbs123> no nothing on it
[13:41] <fallentree> Newbs123: you can always create it
[13:41] <Newbs123> ill go check the one u just mentioned
[13:41] <fallentree> Newbs123: `man interfaces` for help and examples
[13:42] <Newbs123> fallentree i see i thought they were like should be there lol
[13:42] <Newbs123> ill just follow the pattern you provided thanks
[13:43] <fallentree> A bit weird that the interfaces file is not at least present with `auto lo` setup
[13:43] <fallentree> but it doesn't matter, either way is okay
[13:44] <maddawg2> fallentree, yes thats what i was saying it's different in 16.04
[13:44] <maddawg2> hence the url
[13:45] <fallentree> my 16.04 servers all have the interfaces file, each doing just source-directory /etc/network/interfaces.d
[13:45] <fallentree> then again I install ubuntu from debootstrap with custom installation scripts :)
[13:46] <fallentree> and my 17.04 desktop has the auto lo in interfaces
[13:47] <fallentree> mkay, I'm out for the day.
[13:49] <Newbs123> fallentree my mistake i typed in networking instead of network sorry ill go read a few notes over google first before starting out to avoid further mistakes lol
[13:49] <Newbs123> thanks fallentree
[13:51] <jnewt> having an issue with ubuntu where i'm browsing an smb network share and in some folder, i hit back or use the back button on my mouse and it locks up.   happens regularly.
[13:52] <jnewt> i get the little spinner and can't do anything until it asks me if i want to force quit or wait
[13:59] <jnewt> that's 3 times in 20 minutes now that it has happened
[14:01] <BluesKaj> recmmend split view for that kind of action
[14:01] <BluesKaj> jnewt, ^
[14:01] <Newbs123> just done setting up network and apt-get update now starting apt-get upgrade so far so good.
[14:02] <compdoc> \o/
[14:02] <Newbs123> thanks fallentree auronandace and maddawg2
[14:08] <ws2k3> fallentree ur around?
[14:08] <jnewt> BluesKaj: I don't follow.
[14:09] <Newbs123> ws2k3 he just left a few mins back
[14:09] <BluesKaj> jnewt,  does your file manager not a have the split view option?
[14:10] <BluesKaj> not have rather
[14:10] <jnewt> BluesKaj: i don't know, i have ubuntu-mate, whatever is default
[14:11] <jnewt> the file manager just says "Files" next to it in the menu
[14:11] <jnewt> maybe it's called Caja?
[14:11] <auronandace> Newbs123: i hope it all works out
[14:12] <Newbs123> maddawg2 just did apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade so far so good thanks man
[14:12] <BluesKaj> jnewt,  no toolbar settings?
[14:12] <Newbs123> auronandace yeah so far so good. now need to install a few stuffs for getting the samba fileserver and the raid to work thanks man
[14:13] <auronandace> !samba | Newbs123
[14:14] <Jack_Sparrow__> Read up on Samba.  There are some serious issues and vulnerabilities with it..
[14:14] <grady> hi people, please and fix my tearing issue!! ;)
[14:14] <Newbs123> auronandace thanks man, anyway do you happen to know any software that might be an alternative to webmin? as you said earlier its no longer supported in ubuntu and is not that good
[14:15] <Newbs123> Jack_Sparrow__ yeah i saw one article earlier while trying to find some tutorials.
[14:15] <auronandace> !zentyal | Newbs123
[14:15] <Jack_Sparrow__> As long as you are aware
[14:15] <Newbs123> but ill probably just be using this server im setting up right now at home so, should i be worried?
[14:17] <Jack_Sparrow__> Newbs123, Not for me to say..
[14:17] <Newbs123> i see
[14:21] <skinux> What's the shell command to find out Ubuntu version?
[14:21] <Newbs123> auronandace yay from installation to update to software installation so far its all good
[14:21] <auronandace> skinux: you can do: cat /etc/issue
[14:22] <Newbs123> skinux lsb_release -a i think
[14:22] <BluesKaj> skinux,  lsb_release -a
[14:22] <BluesKaj> or  -s
[14:22] <MrMojit0> Okay this sounds a bit akward but I managed to install VirtualBox and installed a vm inside it. But now I don´t understand how to open the manager anymore. Is there something I´m missing out?
[14:23] <skinux> the cat worked
[14:24] <jnewt> BluesKaj: maybe, but i'm not looking for any of that.  i just want it to not freeze
[14:24] <auronandace> MrMojit0: what desktop are you using? do you see 2 virtualbox windows open (one is the vm and the other is virtualbox itself)?
[14:25] <Xrantoo> skinux can't you do uname -a
[14:25] <MrMojit0> auronandace: Only the VM it self, and I just noticed I get an error as well. Failed to open a session for the Virtual machine
[14:26] <auronandace> MrMojit0: how are you launching the vm?
[14:27] <MrMojit0> Currently it launch it self, when I search for VirtualBox, it will auto select the VM and boots it
[14:27] <auronandace> MrMojit0: can you take a picture of the error?
[14:29] <MrMojit0> auronandace: I think that needs to wait and I need to solve it on my own. Just installed Ubuntu and I don´t know how to make printscreen´s.
[14:29] <MrMojit0> Do you know by any chance how to search into ¨TOP¨ to filter on VM
[14:29] <MrMojit0> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/35169724/vm-in-virtualbox-is-already-locked-for-a-session-or-being-unlocked
[14:30] <MrMojit0> I understand the error now. When I try to reopen the VirtualBox that error popups meaning the VM is already spinning. Now I need to find away to open the VirtualBox Manager to create a new VM
[14:31] <aotaointbin> or you could just use vboxmanage
[14:32] <Newbs123> auronandace is it possible to enter the server itself thru outside local network? i kinda needed to go somewhere but i dont feel like stopping what im doing right now lol
[14:32] <MrMojit0> Damm I found it
[14:32] <auronandace> Newbs123: you'll need to set up ssh and port forwarding on your router if you want to access it from the internet
[14:32] <MrMojit0> I need to use a command-line to open the box
[14:33] <Newbs123> auronandace ahh. a topic for another day i guess. lol
[14:33] <Newbs123> thanks man
[14:33] <MrMojit0> command-line: Virtualbox, this will open the VirtualBox Manager
[14:34] <auronandace> Newbs123: ssh-client is usually installed by default which allows you to connect to other machines but you'll need ssh-server to lat others connect to you
[14:34] <Newbs123> auronandace for now ill settle with teamviewer + mobaxterm for now i guess lol
[14:35] <aotaointbin> you could just use vboxmanage.
[14:35] <aotaointbin> instead of the virtualbox manager gui.
[14:35] <aotaointbin> then all you'd need would be ssh.
[14:51] <thejman> Anybody got a preferred web editor for ubuntu?
[14:51] <thejman> I need one with built in site management
[14:58] <minimec> thejman: maybe Bluefish... (I don't use it personally) http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/index.html
[14:59] <thejman> minimec, No site manager on that one :/
[15:00] <minimec> thejman: Hmmm... I thought that there was one built in... ;)
[15:00] <thejman> minimec, I could be wrong...I'll take another look...thanks!
[15:14] <gpsingh159> linux mint and ubuntu
[15:14] <gpsingh159> which one batter
[15:15] <bytesaber> why does my static set ip (using ifconfig) disappear after a short time?
[15:15] <leftyfb> gpsingh159: that's not a question you ask in #ubuntu. Also, "batter" is relative
[15:15] <leftyfb> bytesaber: if you're running the desktop GUI, Network Manager might be re-upping it's dhcp lease
[15:16] <bytesaber> desktop is up, yes
[15:16] <leftyfb> bytesaber: if it's a desktop GUI, use the network manager to set your static ip
[15:16] <bytesaber> i'm justing doing some testing, plugging from vlan to vlan.  i don't really want to use a gui.  Can't i just use the command line manually like.... always?
[15:18] <bytesaber> can i nicely disable network manager without ripping it out?
[15:18] <leftyfb> bytesaber: sure, stop the network-manager service. Might also have to kill the dhclient process
[15:18] <leftyfb> bytesaber: sudo service network-manager stop
[15:18] <bytesaber> roger
[15:29] <rory> I know this cannot be done using tail, but I would like a way to "tail -F *.log" and have new files which match the glob start being monitored as they appear. Is this possible at all or do I need to write something?
[15:30] <rory> I know if I use "tail -F file1.log file2.log" then it will pick up files as they appear. But that only works for explicitly mentioned filenames. Not globs. Because the glob is interpreted by the shell.
[15:31] <rory> I have asked this question before and had trouble communicating what I meant, so hopefully I have made my question clear.
[15:32] <Pici> rory: I think multitail can do this
[15:33] <Pici> rory: see the -iw or -Iw parameter in the manpage
[15:34] <rory> I'll look into it now, thanks Pici
[15:34] <rory> Yes, the fact it's talking about an interval is promising. It must be polling. I'll try it out.
[15:36] <leftyfb> rory: tail -F *.log will work
[15:37] <leftyfb> rory: files do not have to exist. Once they are created. As long as they fit into the glob, they will get followed.
[15:37] <akik> leftyfb: that will not catch new files
[15:37] <leftyfb> akik: it will
[15:37] <leftyfb> tail -f does not work, tail -F does
[15:37] <leftyfb> because -f --retry
[15:37] <mrpanda> ni hao
[15:38] <mrpanda> dev/sda4  1440499712 1952497663  511997952 244,1G Microsoft basic data
[15:38] <mrpanda> seems windows thinks it owns the parition
[15:38] <mrpanda> i reformatted it in ubuntu
[15:38] <leftyfb> akik: rory: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24727462/
[15:39] <akik> leftyfb: just tested it on 16.04. doesn't work
[15:39] <leftyfb> akik: just tested it on 16.04. It does work
[15:39] <rory> no leftyfb that works because you said "tail -F testfile"
[15:39] <leftyfb> as I posted above
[15:39] <rory> leftyfb: try this: "tail -F *.log"
[15:39] <rory> leftyfb: echo hello > new.log
[15:39] <mrpanda> @echo off
[15:40] <rory> leftyfb: it doesn't pick it up because the shell already expanded the *.
[15:40] <leftyfb> ah, right
[15:40] <leftyfb> yup, I'm dead wrong
[15:40] <rory> Yeah this is the discussion I tried to have last time, except the person didn't say those 2 lines. :P
[15:40] <leftyfb> my apologies
[15:40] <rory> lol it's fine it seems so obvious
[15:41] <rory> just use -F
[15:41] <rory> multitail looks pretty good tbh
[15:41] <rory> I also found this lol http://nion.modprobe.de/blog/archives/440-Using-the-ii-irc-client.html
[15:42] <rory> For completeness: multitail -Iw "*.log" 1
[15:42] <rory> that command does exactly what I need, thanks again Pici
[15:48] <Pici> rory: np :)
[15:50] <Katronix> hi all, can someone look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/24727558/ and suggest what I am doing wrong? I know this works under CentOS bash
[15:50] <Pici> Katronix: you're missing the \ before the ;
[15:50] <mrpanda> if change p[artition type no data will be lost ?
[15:51] <auronandace> mrpanda: if you are formatting a partition any data on it will be lost
[15:51] <Katronix> Pici: thanks, why does Ubuntu Bash require that?
[15:51] <mrpanda> i know
[15:51] <mrpanda> just change
[15:52] <auronandace> mrpanda: what do you mean by change?
[15:52] <mrpanda> adjust partition
[15:52] <mrpanda> it has basic data for windows now
[15:52] <mrpanda> i think is the problem
[15:52] <mrpanda> at disks in ubuntu
[15:52] <mrpanda> ;inux filesystem might solve it
[15:52] <mrpanda> L
[15:52] <mrpanda> will data be gone ?
[15:53] <rory> Katronix: ; is being interpreted by bash to mean the end of the command, so it's trying to run -print which isn't a thing. As Pici you need to put \ before the ; so it gets past to find instead.
[15:53] <Jack_Sparrow__> mrpanda, o changing the format CAN really screw things up
[15:53] <auronandace> mrpanda: not sure what you mean. if you want to use a different filesystem you need to format it in that filesystem. that will erase all data
[15:53] <mrpanda> aiaiai
[15:53] <mrpanda> ok..
[15:53] <Pici> Katronix: I think its more of a question of why centos doesn't ^
[15:53] <mrpanda> merci
[15:54] <Jack_Sparrow__> mrpanda, Copy what you can off of it first
[15:54] <mrpanda> i will try :)
[15:54] <mrpanda> have a nice day
[15:54] <tssx> hello, can anyone have information of working ubuntu remaster minimal dependency requirements script that works, tried https://github.com/Distroshare/distroshare-ubuntu-imager but it fails
[15:54] <tssx> i liked distroshare very much when it worked
[15:55] <tssx> sadly remastersys is dead too
[15:55] <rory> oh my god remastersys :)
[15:56] <Katronix> Pici: ah okay :)
[15:57] <Katronix> I realize this is not the php channel, but trying to find out why php is claiming it can't find this file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24727597/
[15:57] <rory> Katronix: What is the full error from php?
[15:58] <tssx> distroshare and remastersys was easy to generate .iso from currently installed system
[15:59] <Katronix> rory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24727629/
[16:00] <nacc> Katronix: what is line 3 of functions.php?
[16:02] <Katronix> nacc: require_once(get_template_directory().'/assets/functions/theme-support.php');
[16:03] <nacc> Katronix: probably permissions along the path?
[16:03] <Katronix> nacc: yeah was thinking same thing, just wanted to double check
[16:04] <rory> yeah my basic checking the filename is the same, and permissions are good, is the end. Better ask in PHP channel
[16:05] <rory> join #linuxmasterrace on Snoonet, but don't ask how to do it, say something like "PHP is so bad, you can't even include a full file path without getting an error"
[16:07] <kristhian> hello forum, i have a problem with sudo by altering it to make ease using npm
[16:07] <kristhian> now i am having this problem
[16:07] <kristhian> sudo: /usr/bin/sudo must be owned by uid 0 and have the setuid bit set
[16:07] <kristhian> i can't find a way to fix it on google
[16:08] <kristhian> almost everything suggest me to solve the problem, by reinstalling the OS and have a backup copy of my important files
[16:08] <Katronix> turned out to be a directory perms error :)
[16:08] <kristhian> is there a way to fix this, without reinstalling?
[16:08] <blkadder> kristhian What exactly are you doing to sudo?
[16:08] <akik> kristhian: chown root:root /usr/bin/sudo and chmod u+s /usr/bin/sudo. no reinstall needed :)
[16:09] <kristhian> sorry i hit the reconnect button
[16:10] <kristhian> that command, tells me that operation not permitted akik
[16:11] <akik> kristhian: boot into the live session on recovery mode where you can run commands as root
[16:11] <akik> or recovery mode
[16:12] <akik> i guess the recovery mode doesn't work if it uses sudo to gain root access
[16:13] <EriC^^> there's always init=/bin/bash
[16:14] <kristhian> the trouble started when i get to follow this instructions https://docs.npmjs.com/getting-started/fixing-npm-permissions
[16:15] <nacc> kristhian: none of that tells you to change sudo *itself*
[16:17] <kristhian> actually yes, because the location of the default on that video is /usr/local
[16:17] <kristhian> whereas npm now resides on /usr/
[16:17] <nacc> kristhian: actually yes what?
[16:17] <kristhian> so i did change chown to /usr/ instead of what it is shown in the video
[16:17] <nacc> kristhian: so you didn't read the page.
[16:18] <nacc> kristhian: giant WARNING in option 1.
[16:18] <nacc> kristhian: next time, read the page, it told you *not* to do what you did.
[16:18] <kristhian> oh
[16:18] <kristhian> sorry
[16:18] <kristhian> i focused on the video
[16:19] <kristhian> so there is no, solution regarding this one but to reinstall the OS again?
[16:19] <nacc> kristhian: always know exactly what you are doing and why (don't just follow a tutorial) if you are doing it as root. And know how to undo it (or have backups). Or don't do it.
[16:19] <nacc> kristhian: you chown -R'd /usr?
[16:19] <nacc> kristhian: no, there's not an easy way to undo that
[16:20] <kristhian> nacc, yes
[16:20] <akik> wow
[16:20] <nacc> kristhian: i would suggest some basic linux education, as well, as it should be very obvious why `sudo chown -R /usr` is always incorrect.
[16:21] <kristhian> nacc, sorry.
[16:21] <kristhian> i guess lesson learned
[16:21] <estranger> pow right in the kisser
[16:22] <Jack_Sparrow__> Good time to think about sep /home
[16:23] <Jack_Sparrow__> Silly me, I mount my /home/jack/Desktop on it's own partition
[16:24] <sirru5h> I remember a few years ago we were doing a lab on active network defense and the person next to me decided to use chown on all the folders ( oh yeah the servers were supposed to still work needless to say her server quit working)
[16:24] <kristhian> goodnight, will be fixing this tomorrow, instead
[16:25] <Jack_Sparrow__> goodnight
[16:25] <sirru5h> kristhian, don't feel bad that is part of learning
[16:25] <choki> is there a live distro for a nas server?
[16:26] <grady> how well that google drive support work on kde? nautilus version needed fixing :)
[16:27] <sirru5h> choki, you checked distrowatch I am sure that there is a live distro for NAS
[16:28] <Poster> I have been using FreeNAS for quite some time and like it a lot
[16:28] <Poster> it runs off of a USB flash drive
[16:28] <BluesKaj> FreeNAS
[16:29] <choki> BluesKaj: too high sys requirements
[16:29] <choki> i only have athlon x2 64 4400 and 2 gig ram
[16:29] <BluesKaj> choki,  http://www.freenas.org/
[16:29] <choki> i just need an nfs server
[16:30] <sirru5h> choki, NAS4Free
[16:31] <BluesKaj> choki,  http://nfs.sourceforge.net/
[16:34] <choki> sirru5h: looks good, never heard of though
[16:34] <choki> im scared :/
[16:34] <choki> i thought there would be some ubuntu solution easy pizi
[16:35] <Poster> It's not too bad, most of the management is from the UI
[16:35] <Poster> but yes Linux based solutions exist as well
[16:35] <Poster> 2GB will probably work, just not optimally
[16:36] <nacc> choki: there is no ubuntu live nas solution. I think the discussion of others is offtopic for this channel (not an ubuntu support topic)
[16:36] <Poster> I run a ZFS replication target with 1GB of memory, it doesn't serve any clients
[16:36] <Poster> oh, yes, sorry
[16:36] <tssx> https://github.com/Distroshare/distroshare-ubuntu-imager can someone try to make distro from your currently installed Ubuntu 17.04? for me this wont work.
[16:37] <Kman> hey, My laptop has 8 GB ram, and 5GB swap
[16:37] <Kman> but computer still use swap even though there is still 5GB ram free
[16:38] <Kman> i have to swapoff -a
[16:38] <Jack_Sparrow__> Things seem to be moving to a swap file
[16:38] <Poster> I am fairly sure the kernel intelligently decides what to hold in RAM versus swap
[16:39] <Poster> ie something that is rarely or never used versus something like buffering disk IO
[16:39] <Poster> you can also look at adjusting your swappiness value
[16:40] <Ichimusai> For a server system I generally set swappiness to the most aggressive value (100) in order to effectively swap out all dead meat and free space for both disk buffers and for things that needs memory
[16:41] <nacc> Kman: what version of ubuntu? also, swapping itself is not indicative of a problem. If you don't want to use swap, then don't have swap
[16:41] <Ichimusai> For a desktop I set it lower because if you have a too high swappiness and leave it for a while and come back some of what your desktop needs are going to be swapped out creating some lag while it is retreived again which leads to a bit of stress.
[16:42] <Ichimusai> Swap is generally very good.
[16:42] <Poster> yeah I really wouldn't worry much about it unless you actually ran out of memory and your active applications or services had to write to swap
[16:42] <Ichimusai> At least it beats the OOM killer when you run out of RAM :) But with sufficient amounts of RAM you can disable it completely if you like.
[16:43] <Kman> i am using Ubuntu 14.04
[16:44] <Kman> the problem is the im doing program which needs 1GB ram to store data, i am afraid the swap is being used
[16:45] <nacc> Kman: why does that make you afraid?
[16:45] <grady> and why 14.04
[16:45] <Poster> you can just monitor it while running
[16:45] <nacc> grady: 14.04 is still supported
[16:45] <Kman> my program executes properly, until i get big data to input. then core dump or program killed :(
[16:45] <grady> nacc, sure it is but even then, why :)
[16:45] <Poster> yeah 14.04 is good until 4/2019
[16:46] <Ichimusai> Kman: Then you should allocate the memory and use mlock() for keeping it in RAM.
[16:46] <Poster> businesses can move slow with technology refreshes
[16:46] <nacc> Kman: sounds like a different problem, swapping won't result in kills necessarily
[16:46] <Ichimusai> Kman: However, don't do that unnecessarily for large chunks.
[16:46] <nacc> Kman: mlock() if you must have residency
[16:46] <nacc> grady: not really relevant in the support channel
[16:46] <Poster> you may have to adjust your ulimit too
[16:46] <Ichimusai> Kman: Swap is not the culprit of the core dump. (Unless you get killed by OOM conditions)
[16:47] <Poster> could be hitting a limit there
[16:47] <grady> nacc, i just like to know
[16:48] <Ichimusai> Kman: You should run the debugger and see what actually bails.
[16:48] <Kman> mlock() ? i used malloc and new
[16:48] <Ichimusai> Kman: mlock() locks the virtual memory you allocated into active memory
[16:48] <grady> i think that he using it on some low/old system because there isnt mutch memory to play with, and that or what is intesting to hear more
[16:48] <nacc> Kman: sounds like a misunderstanding of the problem
[16:48] <grady> tre
[16:49] <nacc> grady: it's not about interest or liking -- the support channel is for resolving the issue, not for irrelevant background discussion
[16:49] <Ichimusai> Kman: Use valgrind also to make sure you are not doing something nasty.
[16:49] <grady> nacc, dont be so serious :D
[16:49]  * Ichimusai hardly believes how many issues valgrind usually are able to find.
[16:50] <Kman> well, i allocated 200M unsigned ints (4 bytes) to memory, i am afraid that the system kills the program 'cause its too large? but my OS is 64bit
[16:51] <Poster> take a look at the values of "ulimit -a" as the user which is running your program
[16:51] <Poster> you may need to adjust them for it to fit
[16:52] <Ichimusai> malloc() itself can handle as much as the address mode allows and what can be gotten as a contiguous block.
[16:52] <Kman> max locked memory       (kbytes, -l) 64
[16:52] <Kman> max locked memory       (kbytes, -l) 64
[16:53] <Poster> it's not too uncommon to have to tweak them when running larger services such as databases or high traffic webservers
[16:53] <nacc> Kman: you really just need to debug your program. swapping is not causing a kill.
[16:53] <Kman> gdb or valgrind?
[16:53] <Ichimusai> If the malloc() fails you should see that in the return conditions.
[16:53] <nacc> Kman: you have yet to show us any logging, or the message when your program is killed.
[16:53] <nacc> Kman: they have different purposes
[16:54] <Ichimusai> A simple if(NULL != mptr) printf("Allocation succeded.\n); in the right place might even suffice.
[16:54] <Ichimusai> ^--- Should say failed of course. Sorry.
[16:54] <msj2015> help
[16:54] <Kman> here: https://thepasteb.in/p/Vmh0Q5KGK4Kf4
[16:55] <satty> hi
[16:55] <nacc> Kman: that doesn't tell us anything. What kills it? Why does it get killed. These are things you need to figure out (and are not ubuntu support topics themselves)
[16:57] <Ichimusai> kman: May I also suggest you divvy up your blob of memory in a number of buffers instead because large allocations may force the system to swap to create contiguous memory. And as also been already suggested, check the limits with ulimit -a
[16:59] <Kman> Ichimusai: what information is useful from ulimit -a
[17:00] <Kman> https://thepasteb.in/p/KOh8pBYpAZ4HJ
[17:02] <nacc> Kman: do you know how to debug programs? that's really all that's needed right now
[17:03] <Ichimusai> Kman: It mainly -m and -l that would affect you.
[17:04] <Ichimusai> Kman: And -v and they all look good.
[17:04] <Ichimusai> Kman: But break out gdb and let it tell you where it fails and why.
[17:05] <Ichimusai> Kman: And run it through valgrind when you do things like this as it is very helpful in figuring out if you happen to use an uninitiated ptr at some place or do otherwise bad things.
[17:06] <Kman> Ichimusai:  im runing  valgrind --leak-check=yes Program
[17:08] <Kman> https://thepasteb.in/p/zmh8Vxy1pv0cZ
[17:08] <Kman> i got some interesting information
[17:09] <nacc> I think this discussion can move to another channel at this point, it's not an ubuntu support topic and this is not a programming channel
[17:09] <Ichimusai> Agreed.
[17:10] <Kman> yeah
[17:40] <guestgst> Hi, Could someone guide me on how to get a source package with a specific version in ubuntu
[17:41] <guestgst> I have ubuntu 16.04 which currently support gstreamer 1.8.3 .. I would like to get 1.12.0 source and then install on 16.04
[17:44] <nacc> guestgst: are you xz from yesterday?
[17:44] <nacc> guestgst: in any case, that's not an ubuntu support topic, 1.12.0 is not supported on 16.04
[17:47] <ElectrumGuy> could someone help me with this bash script?
[17:47] <ElectrumGuy> https://pastebin.com/MSqQ3KFz
[17:47] <ElectrumGuy> I am trying to run it on startup.
[17:47] <ElectrumGuy> I am on ubuntu 14.04
[17:47] <ElectrumGuy> the issue is, only the first screen starts up (screenname1)
[17:49] <nacc> ElectrumGuy: um, do you understand what exec does?
[17:49] <ElectrumGuy> I do not.
[17:49] <Exec> Probably not
[17:50] <nacc> ElectrumGuy: right, read `man bash` and the exec part
[17:50] <dckx> hi, I'm trying to configure my touchpad but the settings I add to /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf are lost after rebooting. Is there a way to make these changes persistent?
[17:52] <ElectrumGuy> nacc, doesn't it just ru n the command provided?
[17:52] <nacc> dckx: your user-generated changes should go in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ i think
[17:52] <nacc> dckx: but regardless, they should be persistent across boots in either location (aiui)
[17:52] <nacc> ElectrumGuy: no, please read the man page
[17:52] <ElectrumGuy> I have.
[17:52] <ElectrumGuy> I do not understand it, which is why I am asking.
[17:53] <devlap> Hi. I am using a bitnami VM which is Ubuntu 14.04.5. I'm trying to start SSH but I have no indication that doing a service start ssh does anything. No ssh process is running, no messages are evident to me in any logs or in the console.
[17:53] <nacc> ElectrumGuy: ok, what does the man page say it does?
[17:53] <nacc> ElectrumGuy: literally the first line in the exec description.
[17:53] <ElectrumGuy> if a command is specified, it replaces the shell.
[17:53] <nacc> ElectrumGuy: right, so you've replaced the shell -- can't continue running commands from the shell script at that point
[17:54] <ElectrumGuy> ah I see
[17:54] <nacc> devlap: is that the right service?
[17:55] <devlap> nacc, if I chose a non existant service I get a message
[17:56] <nacc> devlap: `service ssh status` then?
[17:56] <devlap> as root I get nothing.
[17:56] <devlap> as a sudo user I get * sshd is not running
[17:56] <ElectrumGuy> nacc, but if I remove the exec then it doesn't start the screenn a detached mode.
[17:57] <nacc> ElectrumGuy: i think you need to learn some basic bash stuff -- what you have written doesn't really make any sense. Are you trying to run those python scripts in the screen?
[17:57] <ElectrumGuy> correct.
[17:57] <ElectrumGuy> I am trying to create a screen for each and run it in that screen.
[17:57] <ElectrumGuy> I want to put this .sh file in rc.local so it is run at startup.
[17:57] <ElectrumGuy> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/162133/run-script-in-a-screen
[17:57] <nacc> ElectrumGuy: yeah that's not at all what your script does.
[17:57] <ElectrumGuy> based it off this.
[17:58] <ElectrumGuy> it works when it is a single file, but then I'll have 2 files (1 for each screen).
[17:58] <devlap> nacc : if as my user I run status, I see not running. if as the same user I try and start the service, I see "cannot create director `/var/run/sshd`: Permission denied. if I do sudo service ssh start, nothing seen but it doesnt start the service either
[17:58] <nacc> ElectrumGuy: oh i see it execs itself in the screen, nm.
[17:59] <nacc> ElectrumGuy: right, `python program.py` doesn't return
[17:59] <nacc> ElectrumGuy: i think you are just basically misunderstanding that answer
[17:59] <nacc> ElectrumGuy: you can't run two processes in the foreground at the same time
[18:00] <ElectrumGuy> ah I see nacc so how would I accomplish running 2 screens, each with their own file running
[18:00] <nacc> ElectrumGuy: use two scripts
[18:02] <nacc> devlap: something seems fundamentally wrong with your system.
[18:02] <nacc> devlap: it should not be so inconsistent like that
[18:02] <devlap> Its a default install of the VM image.
[18:02] <nacc> devlap: do you know bitnami hasn't modifie dit?
[18:02] <nacc> *modified it
[18:02] <fallentree> ws2k3: am now
[18:02] <ElectrumGuy> nacc, ok cool.
[18:03] <devlap> They modified the image sure.
[18:03] <nacc> devlap: then ask bitnami
[18:03] <nacc> devlap: it's not ubuntu at that point
[18:04] <Kman> how to use new for a vector<int> with N elements?  vector<int>* vec = new vector<int>(10);?
[18:05] <nacc> Kman: this is *not* a programming channel
[18:05] <Kman> nacc, sorry missed the tab
[18:16] <seanpo> hello
[18:16] <Sleaker> I'm trying to update an 14.04 image to 14.04.5. I'm using a preseed file to install the base system, but when I tried to update the package selection process it seems to choke on lubuntu-desktop. is there a different meta package for lubuntu-desktop that sucks in the lts-xenial packages? I've added 'd-i  base-installer/kernel/altmeta   string lts-xenial' and it's selecting the correct kernel, but it's choking on xorg packages.
[18:20] <seanpo> help
[18:20] <nacc> !help | seanBE_
[18:21] <nacc> seanBE_: sorry!
[18:21] <nacc> Sleaker: what's the actual error?
[18:22] <Sleaker> it's failing in various places of package installation at the moment. with dependencies.
[18:22] <nacc> Sleaker: pastebin an example
[18:22] <Sleaker> and it doesn't auto-detect the network properly for some reason
[18:24] <Sleaker> sec, let me get a VM up wtih it
[18:26] <laceylaney> HI Guys does anyone here know anything about tint2 panel ?? I've just spent some time setting it up but cannot get the  battery to appear properly. The batter text appears over two lines instead of spacing out across one. Can someone help and point me to what I need to change in my config file. My config file can be found here >> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24728843/
[18:27] <Sleaker> nacc: ahh nevermind I think it's just a couple missing libs on the xserver thing. but the network problem at boot is an issue.
[18:27] <Sleaker> d-i doesn't seem to find any network devices during autodetection on my image but the base 14.04.5 server image it does. which I find odd.
[19:14] <whoami1> at last get it
[19:15] <MarioMey> Hi, there. Is there any problem to download libpython3.4 from https://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/libpython3.4 and install it in 16.04? I'm trying to run a Blender version that I compiled it in Ubuntu 14.04 (my last distro). I repeat: I'm on 16.04, now.
[19:16] <whoami> now
[19:17] <whoami> Last month i have used blender but there was no problem
[19:17] <nolsen> I don't know what channel to go to, since it's a variation of problems about everything, I'm trying to flash ubuntu snappy for my raspberry pi 3, and I keep getting this error on win32diskimager: Error 23: Data error (cyclic redundancy check).
[19:18] <MarioMey> whoami: Blender works great. I have to compile a particular version of Blender, with two or three patches...
[19:19] <genii> MarioMey: Should try compiling it under Xenial's libpython3.5 first
[19:19] <MarioMey> genii: do you know how?
[19:19] <MarioMey> Maybe in CMAKE config?
[19:19] <genii> MarioMey: You could grep the makefiles for it
[19:20] <nacc> MarioMey: why not just run blender in a VM?
[19:20] <MarioMey> nacc: I need to run it here.
[19:20] <MarioMey> genii: I didn't understand what you said.
[19:20] <nacc> MarioMey: run it 'here'? a VM is 'here'
[19:20] <MarioMey> What do you mean?
[19:21] <MarioMey> nacc: you undarstand me...
[19:21] <MarioMey> ;)
[19:21] <nacc> MarioMey: if you are treating your binary like a static binary (it only works with certain libraries), either actually compile it statically, or rebuild it to work with the version in 16.04
[19:22] <MarioMey> First, I will check CMAKE config file...
[19:22] <MarioMey> But I gotta go right now.
[19:22] <MarioMey> Thanks, mates.
[19:22] <nacc> Fwiw, this sounds like a totally artifical problem
[19:26] <zuiss1> does anyone here have the Dark Mode firefox extension working with the Firefox in ubuntu? it works on other systems but not with ubuntu for me
[19:30] <whoami> hi
[19:32] <whoami> exit
[19:42] <SemiNus> hi
[19:42] <SemiNus> my ubuntu vserver is reacting very, very slowly when connected via SSH (and also when attempting to connect)
[19:43] <SemiNus> a while ago, I got system messages from failed login attemps and the journal showed chinese IP addresses
[19:43] <SemiNus> how can I find out if there are any attacks going on right now ?
[19:45] <leftyfb> if it's on the internet, there's ALWAYS attacks going on
[19:45] <leftyfb> SemiNus: change your ssh port, use ssh key-only (no password auth) and use fail2ban
[19:46] <SemiNus> thank you leftyfb I will google that all!
[19:46] <oerheks> good start https://www.thefanclub.co.za/how-to/how-secure-ubuntu-1604-lts-server-part-1-basics
[19:46] <Pici> @1
[19:47] <SemiNus> thank you oerheks
[19:47] <oerheks> pretty up2date with systemd
[19:48] <SemiNus> even though I will read that all, it seems like I could need help kind of like ... now...
[19:49] <SemiNus> my journal is full of lines like this:
[19:49] <SemiNus> May 31 15:48:16 **** sshd[20472]: Failed password for root from 221.194.***.*** port 52828 ssh2
[19:49] <SemiNus> the *** were added by me (privacy)
[19:49] <noob> use fail2ban to block the ssh attacks
[19:49] <SemiNus> noob, there are MANY different IP addresses
[19:50] <SemiNus> can I ban whole China?
[19:50] <SemiNus> I run a small local site and I do not expect any chinese visitors
[19:50] <noob> configure fail2ban to ban ip after x amount of attempts for x amount of time :) thats what i do..
[19:50] <SemiNus> thx!
[19:50] <SemiNus> noob, won't the server become lame just because of the attempts anyway?
[19:51] <noob> http://www.fail2ban.org/wiki/index.php/MANUAL_0_8
[19:51] <SemiNus> even though fail2ban can provide some more security, the login attempts will still slow things down, won't they?
[19:51] <noob> they wont be able to bruteforce your ssh service after they are banned, fail2ban wont slow the system at all
[19:52] <SemiNus> thank you - just installing it
[19:52] <noob> :)
[19:54] <Sleaker> alright, so got the xorg issue resolved, that installs fine.
[19:55] <Sleaker> only issue now is that my updated image doesn't do the network detection properly.
[20:00] <meltingwax> my tablet's screen stays black when i press the power button, but it appears ubuntu is mounting it when i plug it in. any other way i can check that they can "talk"?
[20:01] <Sleaker> did net.ifnames=0 and biosdevname=0 get disabled at the kernel when moving from the trusty kernel 3.13 to 4,4?
[20:02] <EriC^^> meltingwax: check "dmesg"
[20:03] <SemiNus> leftyfb, oerheks, noob -> https://dpaste.de/Ee56/raw
[20:03] <SemiNus> is that okay?
[20:03] <meltingwax> EriC^^: ddasilva:~$ dmesg|grep -i android
[20:03] <meltingwax> [    1.707114] usb 3-2.3: Product: SAMSUNG_Android
[20:03] <SemiNus> please tell me if I did it right
[20:04] <meltingwax> EriC^^: so it's alive?
[20:04] <noob> SemiNus, looks ok :)
[20:04] <SemiNus> thank you noob !
[20:05] <noob> welcome
[20:05] <SemiNus> noob, would it make sense to add this line to the [sshd] section?
[20:05] <SemiNus> bantime = 86400
[20:05] <xz> hey, I'm trying to use apt-get to install couple of packages
[20:05] <xz> however I get an error (lock file)
[20:06] <xz> is there some background package manager that installs stuff?
[20:06] <noob> try it, i set it high value
[20:06] <xz> ps aux shows multiple dpkg processes running updating random stuff
[20:06] <SemiNus> noob, what value do you set?
[20:06] <SemiNus> 86400 should be 1 day
[20:06] <SemiNus> 86400 * 30 ?
[20:07] <EriC^^> meltingwax: yeah
[20:07] <ws2k3> fallentree ur around?
[20:07] <akik> Sleaker: no but for an usb-ethernet dongle it didn't apply so i had to create a udev rule
[20:07] <noob> 1 day is enough i think
[20:07] <meltingwax> EriC^^: thanks. odd that the LCD screen just stopped working after a few months. appreciate your help!
[20:08] <SemiNus> noob, thank you
[20:08] <Sleaker> akik: this is for debian-installer autodetection
[20:08] <euxneks> I'd like to input japanese hiragana/katakana/kanji on linux in the same way I do on mac, what linux application can I use for that?
[20:08] <noob> that would deter the script kiddies from trying to bruteforce and simply move on
[20:08] <SemiNus> oh, nice, the server seems to get faster already
[20:08] <xz> hey, something kicks off dpkg processes in a background, how do I stop that?
[20:08] <xz> I want to use apt-get to install couple of packages, but I'm constantly getting lock file error
[20:08] <Sleaker> I auto-boot from the server install disc into a preseed file, and have been passing in those grub options, but when I updated to the new lts-xenial kernel on trusty it stopped detecting the network devices at the correct location.
[20:09] <akik> Sleaker: what does biosdevname=0 do?
[20:09] <SemiNus> noob, that is unbelievable, the server is really getting faster already!!!
[20:09] <SemiNus> noob, I can type in normal speed in SSH again
[20:09] <Sleaker> akik: turns off the biosdevname feature stuff.
[20:09] <akik> Sleaker: which means?
[20:09] <SemiNus> noob, where is the logpath of  logpath = %(sshd_log)s  ?
[20:10] <SemiNus> where can I see what fail2ban already banned?
[20:10] <Sleaker> akik: it's for interop with the biosdevname program to automatically use bios names for ethernet devices.
[20:10] <EriC^^> meltingwax: that is odd, no problem
[20:11] <Sleaker> it's part of the predictable network name stuff.
[20:11] <secnice> xz: that lock file error, says file with the full path you have to remove, give it try
[20:11] <akik> Sleaker: what setup uses biosdevname program? i don't see it on ubuntu
[20:12] <dckx> nacc: thank you. The file was in the /usr/share/X11 directory, and the changes were permanent. They worked in one laptop and not in another, probably because one of them doesn't support three-finger clicking
[20:12] <Sleaker> not sure it's installed by default, but it works with net.ifnames=0 in my current not-updated setup.
[20:12] <Sleaker> I just don't want it to ever get used is all.
[20:13] <noob> SemiNus, nice. its /var/log/sshd.log im reading the manual as we speak because i dont know everything :)
[20:13] <IntelCore> why am i uploading .7 kb/s
[20:13] <akik> Sleaker: ok it's in the repository but not installed here
[20:14] <SemiNus> Thank you noob
[20:14] <noob> no problem, feel free to ask me about security if you need more info
[20:15] <SemiNus> Question to everyone to whom it may concern:  "php-zip" (the package) seems to have broken dependencies (Xenial)  =>  https://dpaste.de/acRt/raw
[20:15] <IntelCore> noob - do u know clamAv?
[20:15] <Sleaker> akik: sure. my issue is that it doesn't seem like it's loading the driver for the network properly when getting into the ubuntu installer right now.
[20:15] <noob> i have used it in the past, yes
[20:15] <Sleaker> lspci does show the network device though
[20:15] <akik> Sleaker: net.ifnames=0 is not enough?
[20:15] <Sleaker> unsure, that's not the issue though.
[20:15] <IntelCore> noob - i got tk  - have Av  so installed
[20:16] <Sleaker> it *was* working with kernel 3.13.
[20:16] <SemiNus> interestingly, apt-get (rather than aptitude) has no problem => https://dpaste.de/UyZ7/raw
[20:16] <IntelCore> noob - but tk no wrk
[20:16] <Sleaker> kernel 4.4 ltx-xenial on the install disc and now it doesn't detect eth0.
[20:16] <akik> Sleaker: trusty doesn't use systemd, i.e. net.ifnames shouldn't be used
[20:16] <Sleaker> trusty does use systemd.
[20:17] <noob> IntelCore, also avast is another option for ubuntu desktop. personally i dont use AV on my linux desktop
[20:17] <Sleaker> akik: that's why I even had to turn on those kernel options to begin with.
[20:17] <akik> Sleaker: systemd came to ubuntu on 15.04
[20:17] <IntelCore> wow
[20:17] <Sleaker> no...
[20:17] <Sleaker> systemd is in trusty, just not the full blown init system.
[20:17] <IntelCore> i had it
[20:18] <Sleaker> akik: systemd-services 204
[20:18] <IntelCore> noob - if clam is installed, still dunno why the control front end for it does nothing
[20:18] <akik> Sleaker: oh yes you're right. systemd-udevd
[20:18] <Sleaker> yup
[20:19] <Sleaker> akik: which is why the net names stuff is there :-/
[20:19] <Sleaker> it's a bit of a headache
[20:19] <IntelCore> proc mon
[20:19] <akik> Sleaker: i'm running trusty on this laptop and get eth0 and wlan0 with that option
[20:20] <Sleaker> akik right, I'm having issues with updating a install disc to auto-install via preseed file.
[20:20] <noob> IntelCore, what do you mean by it does nothing. it doesnt detect malware you try on your system or simply doesnt run at all i.e. scan
[20:20] <IntelCore> noscan noob
[20:20] <IntelCore> dead panel
[20:20] <noob> ah
[20:20] <noob> maybe people in #clamav might help
[20:21] <noob> alternative try installing avast AV
[20:21] <IntelCore> noob, i see it is rather complicated
[20:21] <IntelCore> i did not like avast on win
[20:22] <IntelCore> perhaps i will try sched on terminal
[20:22] <noob> IntelCore, http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/free-linux-antivirus-programs/
[20:22] <compdoc> clamav is cool. you can add a couple dozen additional AV databases from other sources, to the original clamav databases
[20:23] <IntelCore> wow, compdoc - we meet again ! I was MrSteve
[20:23] <Sleaker> akik: are you on the HWE kernel with your trusty installation?
[20:23] <Sleaker> or the 3.13 kernel?
[20:23] <IntelCore> what a Blast !
[20:23] <compdoc> whoda thunk it?!
[20:23] <annihilator> i have an asus q552 with 250gb ssd 16gb ram nvidia 940 and looking to see witch flavor of ubuntu will give best looks and performance
[20:23] <IntelCore> Yesterday I met 2 others on ubder
[20:23] <annihilator> im asking cause im running lubuntu and i like it a lot but its too old school.  i am coming from windows 10
[20:24] <akik> Sleaker: 4.4.0-78-generic
[20:24] <Sleaker> kk
[20:24] <fallentree> ws2k3: yup
[20:24] <compdoc> annihilator, I like the Mate desktop
[20:25] <Sleaker> annihilator: lubuntu and xfce
[20:25] <IntelCore> i use gnome on unity
[20:25] <Sleaker> xubuntu*
[20:26] <annihilator> i have a great setup as i have a over powered desktop that i stream all my games from using steam
[20:26] <noob> i use gnome classic :)
[20:26] <IntelCore> -flashback on xenial with compiz
[20:27] <annihilator> on lubuntu i love that restart takes less that 5 seconds
[20:28] <IntelCore> screenlets wrk too
[20:30] <IntelCore> audio system for ubuntu should be a nice package with refined mixer/eq/amp/fx all in one
[20:30] <IntelCore> I dont understand this aalsa/pulseaudio stuff
[20:31] <IntelCore> - any know why my pc is uploading ?
[20:32] <compdoc> yeah, its sometimes hard to get audio working
[20:33] <IntelCore> all in one audio..might help.. drivers seem like incomplete
[20:39] <IntelCore> this help explain audio
[20:39] <IntelCore> https://askubuntu.com/questions/426983/how-can-i-tell-if-im-using-alsa-or-pulse-audio-by-default-switching-to-i3-wm
[20:40] <IntelCore> but.. why cant alsa be the all-in-one control
[20:40] <IntelCore> or, pa per desktop environs
[20:44] <IntelCore> http://voices.canonical.com/david.henningsson/2012/07/13/top-five-wrong-ways-to-fix-your-audio/
[20:46] <timetocode> I'm testing a websocket game. Can i see how much cpu is being used by the os on websockets? I only know how to see how much cpu is being used by the game server application... but I presume the os itself has to do something with the sockets as well...right?
[20:48] <timetocode> maybe it is just really small..
[20:49] <IntelCore> timetocode - i have screenlet and i have to see a process monitor
[20:49] <IntelCore> so look into a process monitor?
[20:50] <IntelCore> socks is networking, and your networking will increase on cpu a tiny bit
[20:50] <deadhead> Hello. No space left on device. df -h shows 100%. went through and deleted a bunch of pcaps and now 45%. still thinks its full even after a reboot and stopping svcs.
[20:51] <IntelCore> deadhead is drive shrinkable?
[20:51] <timetocode> IntelCore, what would it look like? I'm not sure what it would even be called. Sometimes I see kworker/u8+, ksoftirqd/0 appear at like 0.3% cpu
[20:51] <IntelCore> right timetocode
[20:52] <timetocode> are those the sockets?
[20:52] <IntelCore> again, there is full blown proc mon to file by file
[20:52] <nacc> timetocode: no, those are kernel threads
[20:52] <IntelCore> sock names wont be on proc mon.  the network software will be
[20:52] <deadhead> IntelCore, not sure what you mean. You mean shrink the sda1 partition?
[20:53] <IntelCore> collect/ and maint on drive deadhead
[20:55] <IntelCore> socket is like  what telnet does.. bit different tho
[20:55] <timetocode> so if i run `top` am i seeing everything then?  for my game server i see 3 isntances of node (the game is node), (25-45% cpu each) one instance of nginx (6% cpu), and everything else is 0% (most of the time).
[20:55] <IntelCore> think so
[20:55] <timetocode> on this particular vps, 400% cpu would be max usage
[20:56] <IntelCore> core cpu?
[20:56] <timetocode>  4 vCPU, on a linode
[20:57] <IntelCore> i8 or i9 is multi cores .. many !
[20:57] <IntelCore> is crazy
[20:57] <timetocode> i notice i can't actually get near 400% cpu without seeing some performance problems (even by about 300%) but this might just have to do with the vps sharing resources or something (i dont know really how that works)
[20:58] <IntelCore> cache and running needed stuff will budge/fill resources
[20:59] <IntelCore> cant get all for a process
[21:00] <timetocode> i've been considering getting rid of proxying the websockets... when the server gets up to like 300 players the nginx process starts to eat a lot of cpu just proxying to the games
[21:00] <timetocode> and supposedly i could just send things directly to the node servers instead of using the proxy
[21:01] <IntelCore> the proxy will keep you safer
[21:01] <timetocode> i was using the proxy b/c i wanted players to connect on port 80
[21:01] <timetocode> i figured it would get around firewalls.. but maybe that's not as common of a problem anymore..
[21:01] <timetocode> what kind of safer?
[21:02] <IntelCore> there are things you can do to service for a game. Shaiya, it uses a network service
[21:02] <IntelCore> large user base game
[21:03] <IntelCore> it is windows, but will run mac, and linux
[21:04] <timetocode> i'll check it out, thanks
[21:05] <IntelCore> do it on windows see the service for networking, and can compare
[21:05] <timetocode> mine is like, really fast, i think
[21:06] <IntelCore> these things also create bal. and a tad lag for gamer at times
[21:06] <annihilator> is ubuntu software on unity the only software manager that comes preinstalled?
[21:06] <IntelCore> in 16y.04?
[21:07] <annihilator> 17.04
[21:07] <timetocode> only doing 2d movement so far, but can reach 300-600 ccu (realtime, 20 fps network rate) on a $40 linode.. which i think is good, not sure. Haven't tried it on aws yet, my guess is would be 5-10x the price
[21:08] <IntelCore> http://releases.ubuntu.com/17.04/
[21:09] <annihilator> i just installed synaptic
[21:10] <IntelCore> Ubuntu 17.04 is based on the Linux release series 4.10.
[21:10] <IntelCore> kernels 4.10
[21:11] <IntelCore> Unity 8 is available as an alternative session on 17.04
[21:12] <IntelCore> Try official flavors on the 17,04 desktop
[21:13] <IntelCore> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZestyZapus/ReleaseNotes
[21:15] <IntelCore> http://opensourceforu.com/2017/02/ubuntu-17-04-beta-brings-linux-4-10-kernel/
[21:15] <potatoes_> hey guys i'm trying to upgrade 12.04 LTS to 14.04, I have been unable to do so..
[21:15] <potatoes_> I've ran apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, apt-get install update-manager-core and do-release-upgrade -d
[21:16] <potatoes_> with no success.
[21:16] <potatoes_> am i missing something obvious?
[21:17] <IntelCore> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-upgrade-ubuntu-12-04-lts-to-ubuntu-14-04-lts
[21:17] <potatoes_> no dice
[21:17] <potatoes_> i've read that guide and followed those steps.
[21:18] <IntelCore> ok digital ocean
[21:18] <potatoes_> what?
[21:18] <l0llip0p> potatoes_: lsb_realease -a what does it gives?
[21:19] <potatoes_> good idea lolli
[21:19] <potatoes_> let me find out
[21:19] <potatoes_> one sec
[21:19] <IntelCore> updated then upgraded
[21:20] <IntelCore> uname -ri show the kernel
[21:21] <IntelCore> ls /lib/modules show modules
[21:22] <Bashing-om> potatoes_: " do-release-upgrade -d " the -d flag is 'development" .. 14.04 is not in development :)
[21:23] <annihilator>    help please
[21:23] <IntelCore> also, those instructions on digitak ocean are for 14.04 server
[21:23] <potatoes_> yes i'm getting rls info
[21:23] <annihilator>   /sbin/ldconfig.real: /usr/lib/nvidia-375/libEGL.so.1 is not a symbolic link
[21:23] <potatoes_> and -d i didn';t pass but i thought about it
[21:23] <potatoes_> my mistake
[21:23] <annihilator> there we go lol
[21:25] <IntelCore> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1662860
[21:46] <psychoticwarrior> hey hows it going
[21:50] <IntelCore> NPM agents can now test network connectivity from Linux workstations and servers. The following distributions are supported: CentOS Linux 7, Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.2, Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, Ubuntu 15.04, Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, Debian 8, and SUSE Linux Server 12.
[21:50] <nacc> IntelCore: why are you pasting that here?
[21:51] <IntelCore> a person had asked earlier
[21:51] <nacc> IntelCore: ok, so you direct it at that person.
[21:51] <nacc> IntelCore: otherwise it's just noise
[21:51] <IntelCore> idk if they are on, i forget
[21:52] <nacc> IntelCore: then why bother saying anything?
[21:52] <IntelCore> npm became available in Feb.
[21:52] <nacc> IntelCore: npm has been in ubuntu since 12.04
[21:53] <nacc> IntelCore: and before, if I had to guess
[21:53] <IntelCore> idk, it a MS thing
[21:54] <IntelCore> I am looking for a system process monito.  All I see is for server
[21:55] <YankDownUnder> IntelCore, Like what kind? htop? glances? Something more?
[21:55] <nacc> IntelCore: ok, i'm assuming you're just being a troll now. If it's a MS product you are referring to, it's irrelevant to the Ubuntu support channel. If it's the nodejs thing, it's been in Ubuntu for a long time. And you know (because I've told you before), that you should actually direct your comments to someone if you are responding to someone.
[21:55] <krnlklink> I'm trying to install Mint 18.1 on an imac 20" 5,1. It installs properly using BIOS emulation mode and the Radeon X1600 is initialized fine but when I try and install using EFI the installer hangs on video card initialization and I need to modify boot line with nomodeset. Any way to get the X1600 to work in ubuntu via EFI?
[21:55] <nacc> !mint | krnlklink
[21:57] <YankDownUnder> krnlklink, Just as an FYI, I found that the Ubuntu-Gnome 16.04.2 installer works best on iMacs/Macbook Pro's...just FYI...
[21:57] <SemiNus> re
[21:58] <SemiNus> please, I need help!
[21:58] <SemiNus> I was here before today, because of the chinese IP addresses trying to log in (failed login attempts)
[21:58] <SemiNus> I seems like they hacked my server with success
[21:59] <SemiNus> https://dpaste.de/UkTX/raw
[21:59] <SemiNus> 300 GB of 300 GB are used
[21:59] <SemiNus> how can I find out where they saved data?
[21:59] <SemiNus> I must find out what kind of data they saved on my server,  and if it's illegal, I must inform the police
[21:59] <nacc> SemiNus: you can't, since the system is already compromised
[21:59] <maddawg2> why do you think the chinese got in?
[22:00] <krnlklink> Thanks Yank, will give it a try.
[22:00] <maddawg2> also why arent you using fail2ban or something
[22:00] <YankDownUnder> krnlklink, Peace, bro.
[22:00] <SemiNus> maddawg2, because of the IP addresses that showed up on the failed login attempts
[22:00] <SemiNus> maddawg2, I am using fail2ban since a few hours ago
[22:00] <xz> SemiNus: you still have some space on tmpfs
[22:00] <SemiNus> but that was probably too late
[22:00] <xz> SemiNus: it's not that bad
[22:00] <maddawg2> SemiNus, that is common that doesnt mean they got in
[22:00] <SemiNus> how can I show where large amount of data resides?
[22:00] <maddawg2> they just attack anything that appears open
[22:01] <SemiNus> I know 80 GB should be is /var/www/
[22:01] <maddawg2> but i'd make sure you have a firewall in place and block china IP addresses
[22:01] <SemiNus> how can I see where a lot of data is beside of that?
[22:01] <xz> SemiNus: easy thing is to ssh in on different port than 22
[22:01] <SemiNus> xz, can't they find out the port?
[22:01] <xz> SemiNus: if somebody targetted you, they can do many things
[22:02] <maddawg2> are you using ubuntu server or desktop SemiNus ?
[22:02] <SemiNus> maddawg2, ubuntu server as far as I know
[22:02] <xz> SemiNus: but 'failed attempts to ssh' as you described is a common thing
[22:02] <SemiNus> I rented a vserver with ubuntu on it
[22:02] <xz> SemiNus: there are robots that are trying to ssh in everywhere and anywhere
[22:02] <maddawg2> yea they just try known ports to host ssh
[22:02] <maddawg2> RDP has the same thing on windows
[22:02] <SemiNus> ok
[22:02] <xz> SemiNus: I have the same thing on VPS boxes
[22:02] <Sleaker> alright I've figured out part of the issue I've been having on the ubuntu disc.
[22:02] <maddawg2> but a proper firewall would do you well with fail2ban
[22:02] <SemiNus> just for this very moment -> how can I show a pie chart to see where what amount of data resides?
[22:02] <maddawg2> SemiNus, are you using ubuntu server or desktop
[22:03] <xz> SemiNus: also, make sure to use strong passwords
[22:03] <Sleaker> so the 14.04.5 disc runs ethdetect and finds pcnet32 (vmware) and loads the driver fine.
[22:03] <SemiNus> I am very nervous, there are 200 GB of additional data on my server
[22:03] <SemiNus> I could be hold liable if that is some kind of illegal stuff
[22:03] <xz> SemiNus: because 123456 for root and ssh on port 22 is an easy job for them - that's what they look for
[22:03] <maddawg2> knowing a bit more of what are you using would helkp give you a product
[22:03] <maddawg2> are you using server or desktop
[22:03] <Sleaker> I'm remastering a 14.04 disc and trying to get it updated to a 14.04.5 kernel and when it goes to detect the pcnet32 it throws a unknown symbol mii_ethtool_sset err 0
[22:03] <SemiNus> xz, my root password is strong
[22:03] <xz> SemiNus: that's good
[22:03] <Sleaker> anyone know how to debug that?
[22:03] <maddawg2> SemiNus, Are you using Ubuntu Server or Ubuntu Desktop
[22:04] <maddawg2> knowing which would help us
[22:04] <maddawg2> guess he doesnt need help after all
[22:04] <maddawg2> oh well
[22:04] <IntelCore> ubuntu software center opens, tried to start, then went away without opening
[22:05] <nacc> IntelCore: ubuntu software or gnome software?
[22:05] <IntelCore> the center
[22:05] <xz> SemiNus: check tool 'baobab'
[22:05] <xz> SemiNus: it will tell you where the data is in a nice, visual way
[22:05] <xz> SemiNus: I'm assuming you have X and GUI
[22:05] <SemiNus> nope, no X available
[22:05] <SemiNus> I just changed to /
[22:06] <SemiNus> and now I am running du -csh on each directory
[22:06] <IntelCore> nacc, it lagged
[22:06] <maddawg2> thats why i asked if he was using server or desktop xz
[22:06] <SemiNus> maddawg2, I believe "server"
[22:06] <maddawg2> ok
[22:06] <nacc> IntelCore: ubuntu software center is deprecated and not even present in the latest ubuntu. use gnome software
[22:06] <xz> SemiNus: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/3961/how-to-understand-whats-taking-up-disk-space/171251#171251
[22:06] <xz> SemiNus: try that
[22:06] <maddawg2> you can use this: du / | sort -rn
[22:07] <Sleaker> hmmm maybe it's the difference in the kernel version
[22:07] <maddawg2> that will sort by largest directory to smallest in your root
[22:07] <SemiNus> maddawg2, just as a prove, I did *not* ignore you when you asked:
 are you using ubuntu server or desktop SemiNus ?
 maddawg2, ubuntu server as far as I know
 I rented a vserver with ubuntu on it
[22:07] <xz> SemiNus: or that: https://askubuntu.com/questions/21068/how-to-get-disk-usage-from-command-line
[22:07] <SemiNus> thank you xz
[22:07] <maddawg2> ah not sure why i missed it
[22:07] <maddawg2> my fault
[22:07] <nacc> SemiNus: you want --max-depth=1 for du
[22:08] <nacc> SemiNus: to see at / what size each subdirectory is
[22:08] <SemiNus> thank you nacc
[22:08] <SemiNus> as it seems, the problem is /var
[22:08] <SemiNus> all directories except /var  are reasonably sized
[22:09] <nacc> SemiNus: probably logging?
[22:09] <nacc> SemiNus: if they were hammering your server, it will have logged a fair amount
[22:09] <SemiNus> I will post the output when the command has finished
[22:09] <xz> SemiNus: yeah, check /var/log/ssh
[22:10] <SemiNus> xz, yep, in a short moment, my shell is just blocked my a du -csh command
[22:10] <nacc> SemiNus: wait, areyou booted into the system where you think it was compromised?
[22:11] <SemiNus> https://dpaste.de/VWrW/raw
[22:11] <SemiNus> nacc, yes
[22:11] <SemiNus> nacc, it's a server
[22:11] <nacc> SemiNus: you understand that's completely wrong to do, if your thought is correct? You cannot safely do forensics from a compromised system.
[22:12] <SemiNus> nacc, but the server is remotely hosted
[22:12] <SemiNus> what else should I do?
[22:12] <nacc> SemiNus: so?
[22:12] <IntelCore> nacc - i found process monitor gnome
[22:12] <SemiNus> I cannot access it otherwise
[22:12] <nacc> SemiNus: if you actually think you got hacked, then using your system is definitionally bad.
[22:12] <nacc> SemiNus: and I don't understand why you don't see that immediately
[22:12] <nacc> SemiNus: if you didn't get hacked, then just clear out the logs and move on
[22:13] <nacc> IntelCore: ok?
[22:13] <SemiNus> WOW people
[22:13] <SemiNus> omg
[22:13] <SemiNus> /var/log  is 237 GB large
[22:13] <SemiNus> how comes?!
[22:14] <IntelCore> SemiNus - read it parse it find the china?
[22:14] <\9> maybe you something wrote a lot of logs
[22:14] <xz> SemiNus: is it /var/log/auth.log?
[22:14] <SemiNus> xz, I am checking that now
[22:14] <SemiNus> xz, no, that's only 12 MB large
[22:15] <SemiNus> I will inform you soon which file it is
[22:15] <nacc> SemiNus: the way you resolve this, if you actually think you were compromised, is to boot your remote system into a live environment. If you can't and it's a VPS, delete and re-image.
[22:16] <nacc> SemiNus: but it sounds like you were compromised at all, just that your logs got large
[22:16] <jelly> SemiNus: du /var/log |sort -n|tail, what's the largest subdir
[22:16] <nacc> *were not compromised
[22:16] <SemiNus> any tips?
[22:16] <SemiNus> https://dpaste.de/G9yE/raw
[22:16] <SemiNus> jelly, running your command now
[22:16] <\9> SemiNus: that's just directories.. try ls -lh
[22:17] <nacc> SemiNus: your paste is useless. you need to list the directory itself
[22:17] <jelly> SemiNus: ls -la --sort=size /var/log/ |less
[22:17] <SemiNus> jelly, https://dpaste.de/bAbL/raw
[22:17] <xz> SemiNus: are there any hidden files/direcftories?
[22:17] <jelly> so it's in /var/log directly
[22:18] <jelly> not a subdir
[22:18] <SemiNus> jelly, https://dpaste.de/PspR/raw
[22:18] <\9> syslog?
[22:18] <SemiNus> xz, jelly I am now checking every single file in there
[22:18] <SemiNus> please allow me a few minutes to do so
[22:19] <\9> sounds like your system freaked out by something
[22:19] <SemiNus> I will be right back with all of you
[22:19] <\9> no need to check every single file
[22:19] <\9> syslog got flooded for some reason
[22:19] <xz> \9: I thought there was a hard kernel limit on syslog size
[22:20] <xz> \9: dmesg is circular buffer, isn't it?
[22:20] <SemiNus> # du -csh /var/log/syslog
[22:20] <SemiNus> 217G    /var/log/syslog
[22:20] <nacc> xz: dmesg is not syslog.
[22:20] <xz> \9: it starts dropping stuff once certain size was reached
[22:20] <IntelCore> fyi, i see mail err
[22:21] <SemiNus> there are thousands of lines containing:
[22:21] <SemiNus> May 31 18:09:04 pb95jt zammad-websocket-1.service[231]: 2017-05-31T22:09:04Z:client(-) Status: websocket clients: 0
[22:21] <SemiNus> May 31 18:09:04 pb95jt zammad-websocket-1.service[231]: 2017-05-31T22:09:04Z:client(-) Status: ajax clients: 0
[22:21] <\9> what's the interval between those lines?
[22:21] <\9> perhaps this file accumulated over time?
[22:21] <jelly> SemiNus: so figure out why zammad-websocket-1.service logs there and make it not do so, if you don't need those logs
[22:21] <SemiNus> \9, hard to tell, they seem to all come at the same second
[22:22] <SemiNus> I must uninstall zammad then
[22:22] <oerheks> if you installed zammad, grep the manual
[22:22] <jelly> if you don't need it, sure
[22:22] <\9> what on earth even is a zammad...?
[22:22] <IntelCore> zammad is xivo-websocketd component.
[22:23] <SemiNus> IntelCore, nope
[22:23] <jelly> now I know even less!
[22:23] <\9> oh, some helpdesk system
[22:23] <SemiNus> \9, zammad is an AWESOME help desk
[22:23] <SemiNus> it's the only open source help desk that can really compete with the large global players (in my opinion)
[22:23] <xz>  SemiNus so far it's an awesome tool to fill up SSD quickly
[22:24] <SemiNus> is there any command that would let me save the last 10.000 lines of the syslog before I delete it?
[22:24] <\9> tail -n10000
[22:24] <jelly> awesome at generating gigabytes of logs
[22:24] <maddawg2> SemiNus, you could try https://stackoverflow.com/questions/5566310/how-to-recursively-find-and-list-the-latest-modified-files-in-a-directory-with-s
[22:24] <maddawg2> this will tell you what was created most recently and maybe that would help
[22:24] <jelly> maddawg2: they already found the file
[22:24] <maddawg2> oh
[22:24] <IntelCore> if Wazo used to connect to him
[22:24] <maddawg2> was it a log?
[22:25] <nchambers> thats some pretty bad bash though maddawg2
[22:25] <SemiNus> zammad literally produces 10000 lines within 3 seconds
[22:25] <SemiNus> tail -n10000  spans over 3 seconds of time
[22:25] <maddawg2> oh syslog
[22:25] <jelly> SemiNus: that doesn't sound sane.  if you can't reconfigure it, you'll have to filter that crap
[22:25] <SemiNus> I am googling for this line now
[22:25] <SemiNus> brb
[22:25] <jelly> either thru journald or rsyslog, both are competent enough I guess
[22:26] <jelly> SemiNus: if your / filesystem is filling up, just rm that file and restart rsyslog service
[22:27] <SemiNus> wanna read a "joke" ?
[22:27] <jelly> note that rm won't be instantaneous.
[22:27] <SemiNus> # tail -n100000 /var/log/syslog > syslog_100000
[22:27] <SemiNus> tail: error writing 'standard output': Disk quota exceeded
[22:27] <SemiNus> I cannot even save it
[22:27] <maddawg2> how could he have filled up 300GB worth of logs in a day
[22:27] <jelly> you can save it to a different mount point
[22:28] <jelly> maddawg2: they just said how, one particular service generates a couple thousand lines a second
[22:28] <\9> sure if your disk is full
[22:28] <SemiNus> I just deleted my syslog
[22:28] <SemiNus> and it's still ful
[22:28] <SemiNus> *full
[22:28] <jelly> SemiNus: you do need to restart the rsyslog service.
[22:28] <nacc> SemiNus: you have to sync; sync probably
[22:29] <SemiNus> https://dpaste.de/sCCY/raw
[22:29] <jelly> sync doesn't matter
[22:29] <SemiNus> /dev is a different partition, that's why I did it like that
[22:29] <\9> to /dev/..?
[22:29] <SemiNus> \9, /dev was the only empty partition around
[22:30] <jelly> SemiNus: /dev/shm and /run are usually ram disks ("tmpfs")
[22:30] <\9> right so it's in memory now
[22:30] <SemiNus> so what next?
[22:30] <jelly> disk space will only be reclaimed when the last process keeping the old file open closes it.
[22:31] <\9> you need to get it out of /dev/
[22:31] <jelly> so... RESTART THE DAMN rsyslog SERVICE
[22:31] <SemiNus> I only copied the last 100.000 lines to /dev
[22:31] <SemiNus> the large syslog was deleted
[22:31] <SemiNus> jelly, ok restarting
[22:31] <jelly> rsyslog is what actually writes to /var/log/syslog
[22:32] <IntelCore> close port 9502
[22:32] <jelly> stopping it may take some time, because it takes some time to delete a fragmented 200GB file from a typical ext4 filesystem
[22:33] <SemiNus> /dev/simfs      300G   84G  217G  28% /
[22:33] <SemiNus> I LOVE YOU ALL :)))
[22:33] <SemiNus> Thank you sooooo much!
[22:33] <\9> ok now get the file out of /dev/
[22:33] <SemiNus> already done
[22:33] <jelly> it's still filling up at the same rate
[22:33] <SemiNus> is "aptitude purge zammad" an option?
[22:34] <jelly> we don't know whether you need this service or not
[22:34] <jelly> if it's as awesome as you say, presumably you or your users are like using it
[22:34] <SemiNus> jelly, I wanted to test it exhaustively
[22:34] <SemiNus> but I can delete it as well
[22:35] <jelly> might as well find the root cause of it misbehaving, now that you fixed the immediate issue
[22:35] <jelly> and make it not log thousands of lines per second
[22:35] <SemiNus> jelly, it would buy me time if I could stop the service
[22:35] <jelly> SemiNus: so stop it
[22:35] <SemiNus> but there is no /etc/init.d/zammad or something
[22:36] <SemiNus> just googling it
[22:36] <jelly> you're on systemd  now.
[22:36] <jelly> there's probably /etc/systemd/systemd/*zammad* or similar
[22:36] <jelly> sorry, make that
[22:36] <nacc> well, zamma is not an ubuntu package, right?
[22:36] <jelly> /lib/systemd/system/*zammad*
[22:37] <SemiNus> systemctl stop zammad-websocket
[22:38] <SemiNus> Hello?
[22:38] <jelly> did that stop it
[22:39] <SemiNus> no
[22:39] <jelly> systemctl list-units | grep zammad ?
[22:39] <jelly> are you sure that's what it's called?
[22:39] <Sleaker> hmm so ubuntu laods the linux-udebs-generic udeb for the base system?
[22:39] <IntelCore> i see where this zammand, a websocket service on the server.. a person might use it from client side for injection
[22:40] <SemiNus> https://dpaste.de/2v1X/raw
[22:40] <IntelCore> however, if updates maintained, they wouldnt get in
[22:41] <jelly> SemiNus: interesting, says zammad-websocket-1.service is failed but it seems logs are getting filled by precisely that one
[22:41] <IntelCore> it is on a list of Critical Information Infrastructure Protection Centre
[22:41] <SemiNus> what if I just ran:  "chattr +i /var/log/syslog" ?
[22:41] <jelly> SemiNus: "systemctl status zammad-websocket-1.service" may provide more info.
[22:42] <IntelCore> a pdf fils shows loads of server and other security vulnerablbilities
[22:42] <psychoticwarrior> try
[22:42] <psychoticwarrior> lynis audit system
[22:42] <psychoticwarrior> or that may be for kali
[22:42] <psychoticwarrior> chkrootkit
[22:42] <SemiNus> jelly, https://dpaste.de/TYTE/raw
[22:43] <jelly> SemiNus: does process 231 exist?
[22:43] <jelly> ps -fp 231
[22:44] <SemiNus> UID        PID  PPID  C STIME TTY          TIME CMD
[22:45] <SemiNus> ^ nothing else - just this line
[22:45] <jelly> so, no
[22:45] <IntelCore> maybe a flooder
[22:45] <jelly> SemiNus: eh, just disable the thing for the time being, "systemctl mask zammad-websocket-1.service"
[22:46] <carpediembaby> Hello, I am trying to setup ssh connections through a config file but am not able to. I am sitting behind a proxy and want to a machine through it. I have a config file which doesn't work: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24731101/
[22:46] <jelly> SemiNus: I'm... guessing something goes wrong and maybe systemd tries to restart it all the time, but I'm not sure why the pid never changes
[22:46] <SemiNus> jelly, Failed to execute operation: Invalid argument
[22:46] <jelly> SemiNus: as root?
[22:46] <SemiNus> yes
[22:47] <SemiNus> I ran:
[22:47] <SemiNus> systemctl mask zammad-websocket-1.service
[22:47] <carpediembaby> The first host is for connecting to the host through the proxy but it doesn't work. If i pass the proxy parameters directly on the commandline, it does work.
[22:47] <SemiNus> I ran:
[22:47] <SemiNus> systemctl stop zammad-websocket-1.service
[22:47] <SemiNus> that did not through an error
[22:47] <SemiNus> does that help?
[22:47] <nacc> carpediembaby: try using the absolute path to nc
[22:47] <jelly> SemiNus: try to mask it again
[22:48] <jelly> after stop.
[22:48] <SemiNus> Failed to execute operation: Invalid argument
[22:48] <jelly> something's weird there, and I don't know enough about systemd to say what
[22:48] <jelly> maybe ask in #systemd or #ubuntu-server
[22:48] <carpediembaby> nacc: i replaced nc with /bin/nc (from which nc) and still no good.
[22:49] <nacc> carpediembaby: use ssh --vvv to see what ssh is doing and if it's using that setting
[22:49] <SemiNus> thank you jelly for your help!
[22:49] <pnwise> Can LVM be set for a partition or I have to sue the whole drive?
[22:49] <SemiNus> I'd like to thank all of you who helped me - Thank you!
[22:49] <pnwise> *use
[22:49] <carpediembaby> nacc: so i put ssh -vvv before nc?
[22:49] <the_count> hello! Ubuntu says that I have to enter in my login credentials in again because unlocking the keyring failed
[22:50] <nacc> carpediembaby: no, you are sshing somewhere
[22:50] <carpediembaby> ah
[22:50] <nacc> carpediembaby: so run `ssh -vvv <somewhere>`
[22:50] <jelly> but yeah, if everything else fails presumably you can just uninstall it
[22:50] <jelly> and possibly lose any data in there
[22:51] <pseudopad> Hello. I have a mobile broadband card in my laptop, and even if it's set to disabled, ubuntu keeps nagging me to input the pin for it. Is there a way to stop this from happening?
[22:51] <jelly> SemiNus: what does /etc/systemd/system/zammad-websocket-1.service look like btw?
[22:52] <carpediembaby> nacc nacc: yes, got it. Its stuck after this output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24731130/
[22:52] <pseudopad> Without disabling it in the uefi, that is. I like having the option available to me without restarting
[22:52] <SemiNus> jelly, I just uninstalled zammad
[22:52] <jelly> fairy nuff
[22:53] <SemiNus> jelly, not even urban dictionary could clarify that => http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fairy%20nuff
[22:53] <SemiNus> what is "fairy nuff" ?
[22:54] <the_count> I don't know much past that for how to fix ti
[22:54] <SemiNus> sounds like a really interesting idiom?
[22:54] <nacc> SemiNus: "fair enough"
[22:54] <pseudopad> Enough fairies, probably
[22:54] <SemiNus> OH
[22:54] <SemiNus> thank you!
[22:55] <the_count> It says "Enter password to unlock your login keyring" and "The login keyring did not get unlocked when you logged in to your computer"
[22:56] <carpediembaby> nacc: Nevermind, my bad. All this time i had the wrong proxy address...
[22:56] <IntelCore> SemiNus - look over that cve pdf.. https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvekey.cgi?keyword=XSS
[22:56] <carpediembaby> nacc: and Thanks!
[22:56] <SemiNus> thank you IntelCore
[22:57] <psychoticwarrior> Sometimes by default root cant login unless you edit /etc/ssh/ssh_config or /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[22:57] <pnwise> Can LVM be set for a partition or I have to use the whole drive?
[22:57] <jelly> what nacc said!
[22:59] <nacc> !who | psychoticwarrior: i'm pretty sure you've been told this before...
[22:59] <nacc> carpediembaby: yw
[23:00] <IntelCore> pnwise google your question
[23:00] <nacc> pnwise: you can put LVM on a partition, afaict (you make the partition a PV and then LV underneath it)
[23:00] <the_count> Does anyone have any ideas?
[23:00] <nacc> !google | IntelCore
[23:02] <pnwise> I tried googling but the combination lvm and partition usually shows how to manage partitions. I tried on a virtual machine to see how will that work but there is no options on installation to set LVM on a single partition, only if I isntall on the whole drive
[23:03] <nacc> pnwise: the installer won't support it, as it's not very common
[23:03] <nacc> pnwise: you would leave the partitoin empty and then manually do it after boot
[23:03] <Epx998> anyone using maas?
[23:03] <the_count> Hello! I am having problems with my login keyring, it asks me to enter in the password again after login, does anyone have any Ideas?
[23:03] <nacc> Epx998: i think there is an IRC channel for it (see !alis) and or use #ubuntu-server
[23:03] <pseudopad> the_count: do you use automatic login?
[23:04] <antonio4200>  I'm trying to get my wired xbox 360 controller to work in 16.04.  What do I need to do?
[23:04] <pnwise> nacc thanks will see how will taht work
[23:05] <the_count> pseudopad: I do not, all of the answers I am finding deal with autologin... I wasn't able to login for the past couple weeks unless I was in the terminal, and I reinstalled a bunch of packages today, and I can login, but the window manager crashes every time
[23:05] <YankDownUnder> antonio4200, https://www.howtoforge.com/tutorial/how-to-configure-your-gamepad-on-ubuntu/
[23:06] <Epx998> nacc: thanks mate
[23:08] <pseudopad> Does it work after you re-enter the password?
[23:09] <the_count> psuedopad: No
[23:09] <the_count> pseudopad: No
[23:11] <the_count> pseudopad: Also, when it partially worked before, shortcuts took about 20 seconds to respond
[23:14] <coffeeguy> oh yay an nvidia driver update for 16.04 :)
[23:15] <coffeeguy> is sudo grub-reload to reload grub?
[23:16] <nacc> coffeeguy: sudo update-grub
[23:16] <coffeeguy> oh thanks nacc :)
[23:17] <nacc> coffeeguy: well, depends on what you mean by 'reload grub' -- that's normally done automatically
[23:17] <nacc> coffeeguy: update-grub just regenerates the config file(s)
[23:18] <coffeeguy> i remember now it's update-grub that i wanted
[23:18] <kristhian> good day, i am having a hard time installing git on my system
[23:19] <kristhian> 16.04.1 xenial
[23:19] <kristhian> http://termbin.com/xzpd
[23:19] <nacc> kristhian: `sudo apt install git`
[23:19] <kristhian> same issue
[23:19] <nacc> kristhian: have you run `sudo apt update` recently?
[23:19] <kristhian> there is a dependency error
[23:20] <kristhian> yes nacc
[23:20] <nacc> kristhian: apt policy liberror-perl
[23:20] <nacc> kristhian: `sudo apt install git liberror-perl`
[23:20] <the_count> No ideas?
[23:20] <nacc> kristhian: for those two commands, provide their output in a pastebin
[23:22] <kristhian> yes nacc http://termbin.com/17wt
[23:22] <nacc> kristhian: apt policy liberror-perl
[23:23] <kristhian> https://pastebin.com/MzDk42nQ
[23:23] <nacc> kristhian: are you using non-standard repositories?
[23:23] <nacc> !info liberror-perl xenial
[23:23] <nacc> kristhian: it's definitely present
[23:24] <the_count> I have been stuck with this problem for a month and a half and no one is willing to help me
[23:25] <kristhian> i did just reinstalled my OS, since i have an issue yesterday regarding npm
[23:25] <kristhian> that i have removed "sudo"
[23:25] <kristhian> but it is the same OS that i have downloaded from ubuntu site
[23:25] <nacc> kristhian: pastebin `sudo apt update` output please
[23:26] <kristhian> ok
[23:26] <nacc> kristhian: and `lsb_release -d` output
[23:26] <kristhian> ok
[23:26] <kristhian> lsb_release -d
[23:26] <kristhian> Description:	Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS
[23:27] <the_count> I have been stuck with this problem for a month and a half and no one is willing to help me
[23:28] <nacc> kristhian: if it reports 16.04.1, then I think you are not fully up to date, fwiw. Have you run `sudo apt update; sudo apt full-upgrade`?
[23:28] <kristhian> just sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
[23:28] <kristhian> not sudo apt full-upgrade
[23:29] <kristhian> and what is the difference between sudo-apt full upgrade and dist-upgrade btw?
[23:29] <nacc> kristhian: dist-upgrade is old for apt-get backwards compatibility
[23:30] <kristhian> ill try full-upgrade
[23:30] <nacc> kristhian: well, it probably does't matter to this problem
[23:30] <kristhian> ill just wait, updating first then pastebin it to you
[23:30] <nacc> kristhian: it's weird that your system can't find the packages that exist
[23:30] <nacc> kristhian: ok
[23:31] <the_count> I have been stuck with this problem for a month and a half and no one is willing to help me???
[23:31] <kristhian> actually i am having trouble connecting with some archives
[23:31] <nacc> kristhian: yeah, i think you have a buggy network or something -- it doesn't seem right
[23:32] <kristhian> https://pastebin.com/A2ArAEjB
[23:32] <nacc> kristhian: yes, the mirror you are using appears to be broken, don't use it.
[23:32] <nacc> kristhian: or your networking is, i can't tell
[23:34] <kristhian> what is wrong with the_count btw, he seems to be upset, no one is listening to him
[23:34] <kristhian> and how do i change mirrors, since i am only using sudo apt update
[23:35] <mechmaster> hi, I wonder , can I install ubuntu on dynamic disk, /or is there easy way to convert to basics/ (dual-boot win10)? thanks
[23:35] <kristhian> ubuntu just automatically does it for me, but if the mirrors were broken, then how do i find alternative links for it?
[23:36] <nacc> kristhian: edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:37] <nacc> the_count: what is your exact issue in one line?
[23:38] <Bashing-om> mechmaster: See: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1692248 .
[23:38] <kristhian> nacc: im here, what exactly do i have to do with this, change them to "us" instead of "ph"
[23:39] <the_count> nacc: I'm not completely sure, but I know for sure that when I log in, a window pops up right away, and says that the keyring was not unlocked... The display manager no longer starts either.
[23:39] <nacc> kristhian: that would work, but will route to the us, and if you are in the phillipines, that might be slow: https://askubuntu.com/questions/890348/ph-archive-ubuntu-com-is-not-working
[23:39] <the_count> nacc: And asks me to re-enter my password
[23:40] <nacc> the_count: did you make some changes? e.g., switch desktop environments, install 3rd party packages, etc. recently?
[23:41] <kristhian> is it possible that you the_count clicked on a malware, and that pop up is to gain information of him?
[23:42] <mechmaster> @Bashing-om , in windows parent os , can i install ubuntu on dynamic disk , without converting....
[23:42] <the_count> A couple months ago when Canonical announced that they were going to make the switch to Gnome, I made it early, and it worked fine... Later, I had installed anbox, and when I removed it, things went haywire, the keyring notification popped up every time.
[23:42] <nacc> the_count: what is anbox?
[23:43] <nacc> the_count: it sounds like anbox is the likely culprit -- not an ubuntu package?
[23:43] <Bashing-om>  mechmaster Short answer is no . That file system is proprietary to Windows .
[23:43] <the_count> nacc: it runs android applications natively on linux... It is a snap package, and was removed through the snap manager
[23:45] <nacc> the_count: ah but it's a 'classic' snap -- and removal does not actually do anything with classic snaps :/
[23:45] <nacc> the_count: i would suspect the snap did something funky -- but it's hard to say. Given that it only happened after installing it, I would fresh install ubuntu gnome, i think
[23:46] <the_count> nacc: No, it is installed with: ' snap install --classic anbox-installer && anbox-installer ' and the anbox-installer has an option for installation or removal. I used it's removal
[23:46] <nacc> the_count: oh i see
[23:46] <the_count> nacc: It actually happened after removing it with the anbox-installer command
[23:46] <nacc> the_count: when you had anbox installed, did everything work?
[23:47] <the_count> nacc: When it was installed, my custom and ubuntu's default shortcuts took about 20 seconds or longer to respond, otherwise, it worked fine
[23:49] <kristhian> nacc: excuse me again, when ubunt is asking to check apt list --upgradeable, can i just issue the command "sudo apt upgrade"?
[23:49] <kristhian> to upgrade all that is in the list?
[23:49] <nacc> the_count: ok, i would try reinstalling it?
[23:49] <nacc> kristhian: yes
[23:49] <kristhian> thanks
[23:49] <the_count> nacc: and then removing it again?
[23:51] <nacc> the_count: no, just see if your system works
[23:51] <nacc> the_count: then talk to the snap owner about why it breaks your system
[23:51] <the_count> nacc: Ok... Thank you!
[23:51] <kristhian> and the_count try not to spam again, just wait for someone to respond :P
[23:51] <kristhian> joke :D