| Unit193 | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tumbler/0.1.92.1-0ubuntu1 | 20:30 |
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| knome | !team | meeting in 40ish | 21:19 |
| ubottu | meeting in 40ish: team is akxwi-dave, bluesabre, dkessel, flocculant, jjfrv8, knome, krytarik, ochosi, pleia2, slickymaster and Unit193 | 21:19 |
| flocculant | might be awake in 40ish | 21:19 |
| bluesabre | flocculant: be awake | 21:52 |
| knome | :) | 21:52 |
| bluesabre | Unit193: nice :) | 21:52 |
| knome | #startmeeting Xubuntu community meeting | 22:00 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Wed May 31 22:00:04 2017 UTC. The chair is knome. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 22:00 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 22:00 |
| knome | #chair bluesabre | 22:00 |
| meetingology | Current chairs: bluesabre knome | 22:00 |
| knome | who's here for the meeting? | 22:00 |
| pleia2 | o/ for a few minutes | 22:00 |
| flocculant | not me - I'm after popcorn | 22:00 |
| bluesabre | o/ | 22:00 |
| slickymasterWork | 0/ | 22:00 |
| slickymasterWork | provided the hotel wifi keeps working :P | 22:01 |
| flocculant | slickymasterWork: nothing we've not noticed before then :D | 22:01 |
| slickymasterWork | lol | 22:01 |
| slickymasterWork | true | 22:01 |
| knome | we don't seem to have a long agenda, so this is likely quick... but let's go anyway | 22:01 |
| knome | #topic Open action items | 22:01 |
| knome | bluesabre, the thunar SRU? | 22:02 |
| bluesabre | You betcha | 22:02 |
| knome | is done? :) | 22:02 |
| bluesabre | Nope | 22:02 |
| knome | hah. | 22:02 |
| knome | #action bluesabre to get the Thunar SRU out | 22:02 |
| meetingology | ACTION: bluesabre to get the Thunar SRU out | 22:02 |
| knome | everything else is done | 22:02 |
| bluesabre | #info thunar SRU, still in progress, hasn't been released into proposed yet, will be nudging, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunar/+bug/1679488 | 22:02 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1679488 in thunar (Ubuntu Zesty) "Thunar freezes when left inactive for a while" [Undecided,In progress] | 22:02 |
| knome | ta | 22:03 |
| knome | #topic Updates and Announcements | 22:03 |
| flocculant | well - the sru in action items was done :p | 22:03 |
| knome | flocculant, oh well... :) | 22:03 |
| knome | i don't have anything for announcements | 22:03 |
| bluesabre | I do | 22:03 |
| knome | well, xfce infrastructure has been getting better ;) | 22:03 |
| bluesabre | #info xfce4-weather-plugin SRU, also not yet released to -proposed, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-weather-plugin/+bug/1688056 | 22:04 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1688056 in xfce4-weather-plugin (Ubuntu Xenial) "Package outdated" [Undecided,In progress] | 22:04 |
| bluesabre | Xfce apps too | 22:04 |
| knome | what's our milestone participation status? | 22:04 |
| flocculant | beta(s) | 22:04 |
| knome | oki, not around the corner yet | 22:05 |
| flocculant | nah | 22:05 |
| knome | anything else from people? | 22:05 |
| bluesabre | Nope, but hopefully we'll have some interesting things in artful soon | 22:05 |
| bluesabre | new parole this week | 22:05 |
| flocculant | I got confused with May and June when I mentioned milestones ... | 22:05 |
| knome | :) | 22:05 |
| bluesabre | Lots of GTK3 porting progress in Xfce land, will be trying to get some of that in Artful | 22:05 |
| bluesabre | So, Xfce testing would be a huge boost right now :) | 22:06 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: cool - I'm bored :) | 22:06 |
| bluesabre | :D | 22:06 |
| slickymasterWork | lol | 22:06 |
| bluesabre | Unit193 added a new tumbler package, should support wine thumbnails | 22:06 |
| bluesabre | If I am not mistaken | 22:06 |
| bluesabre | The indicator stack has landed in Debian, so there might be some news there in the near future | 22:07 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: s/should/does/, been using it since yesterday. Found a problem with that too. :P | 22:07 |
| bluesabre | :D | 22:08 |
| bluesabre | welcome Unit193 | 22:08 |
| bluesabre | I don't think there's any other announcements from me right now | 22:08 |
| knome | oki, others? | 22:08 |
| flocculant | nada | 22:09 |
| bluesabre | checking the release schedule for important dates | 22:09 |
| slickymasterWork | nothing here | 22:09 |
| knome | well, that kind of reminds me | 22:09 |
| bluesabre | Feature Definition Freeze was the 25th :D | 22:09 |
| knome | we need to get the slideshow stuff going earlier this cycle | 22:09 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: dates are on burndown btw | 22:09 |
| knome | slickymasterWork, ^ | 22:09 |
| flocculant | indeed | 22:09 |
| slickymasterWork | ack knome | 22:10 |
| knome | #topic Discussion | 22:10 |
| flocculant | now would be as good a time as any | 22:10 |
| knome | nothing on the agenda | 22:10 |
| knome | does anybody want to bring up something on the spot? | 22:10 |
| knome | #action knome to figure out some marketing stuff for getting ideas for the slideshow | 22:10 |
| meetingology | ACTION: knome to figure out some marketing stuff for getting ideas for the slideshow | 22:10 |
| flocculant | what about other artwork stuffs | 22:11 |
| knome | like what? | 22:11 |
| flocculant | I don't know - just everything artwork always lands really really late | 22:12 |
| bluesabre | There's some chatter on the mailing lists regarding slideshow deadlines and i386 to keep an eye on | 22:12 |
| knome | i'm trying to get it out sooner, but it's what it is :| | 22:12 |
| knome | bluesabre, yeah, thus the slideshow discussion above ;) | 22:12 |
| flocculant | which is why we ended up with a default wallpaper you couldn't see fsck notice on | 22:12 |
| Unit193 | xfce4-terminal, xfce4-dict, xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin, xubuntu-artwork all sawuploads. | 22:12 |
| bluesabre | Yeah, wanted to clarify | 22:13 |
| knome | flocculant, acknowledged | 22:13 |
| flocculant | knome: ack - and I'm not blaming you - as I;ve said before maybe try and get community involved more | 22:13 |
| flocculant | and not right at the last minute ;) | 22:13 |
| knome | does anybody wnat to talk about 32-bit and/or have an opinion about it? | 22:13 |
| flocculant | other flavours and Ubuntu all manage to do that | 22:13 |
| flocculant | obviously you don't want to talk about art then | 22:14 |
| bluesabre | We have at least one 32bit team member | 22:14 |
| Unit193 | Makes more sense to keep wallpaper contests at LTS releases tome. | 22:14 |
| flocculant | Unit193: why? | 22:14 |
| bluesabre | I agree with that | 22:15 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: why? | 22:15 |
| knome | flocculant, i don't have a problem talking about art, but i've acknowledged your worry that stuff lands (too) late but at the same time, real life is what real life is | 22:15 |
| Unit193 | flocculant: Well, that's a looot of effort to put into voting, selecting, etc for every cycle. | 22:15 |
| bluesabre | Mainly because it's the "stable" milestone | 22:15 |
| bluesabre | and something additional to hype the release | 22:15 |
| knome | i agree with Unit193 and bluesabre too, mostly because we haven't got too many submissions even on the contests we've done this far - we don't want to make it happen more often | 22:15 |
| bluesabre | and what Unit193 says | 22:15 |
| Unit193 | And a decent point in time to put the marker. | 22:16 |
| flocculant | ok - so I see no reason why we can't start planning for that now - because in less than 6 months it will be the lts cycle | 22:16 |
| knome | the contest website is ready for submissions, it'll take 5 mins to set it up | 22:16 |
| bluesabre | Definitely a good idea to plan and schedule, though we have the infra for it now | 22:16 |
| bluesabre | knome beat me to that | 22:16 |
| flocculant | because if we don't - then it will be March and still we#ll be thinking about doing something | 22:16 |
| flocculant | but I'll shutup and wait for when it's too late for that cycle | 22:17 |
| pleia2 | it even has ssl now! | 22:17 |
| flocculant | I have no opinion on 32bit | 22:17 |
| bluesabre | architectures is a boring topic :D | 22:18 |
| flocculant | when there is something concrete to discuss then I'll make my mind up | 22:18 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: damn right - I had to do Gothic :( | 22:19 |
| bluesabre | There was a suggestion in the ML to include gnome-font-viewer... I'm in favor of this suggestion | 22:19 |
| bluesabre | flocculant: haha | 22:19 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: so was I once I woke up to the right package :p | 22:20 |
| flocculant | oooh - also what about the core iso - are we going to try again? | 22:20 |
| bluesabre | We'd like to, but it's really hard to get the folks that can do anything about it to do anything about it | 22:21 |
| knome | bluesabre, want to follow up on that thread and potentially set up a team vote? | 22:21 |
| bluesabre | flocculant: We provide the patches, they don't get reviewed :\ | 22:22 |
| knome | yes, my take on core is that it's always been the plan to make it official | 22:22 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: has it been discussed recently? | 22:22 |
| bluesabre | flocculant: Haven't checked in a while | 22:22 |
| flocculant | mmk | 22:22 |
| bluesabre | knome: sure, I'll do that | 22:22 |
| bluesabre | #action bluesabre to follow up on gnome-font-viewer inclusion and set up team vote | 22:23 |
| meetingology | ACTION: bluesabre to follow up on gnome-font-viewer inclusion and set up team vote | 22:23 |
| flocculant | I know I've not seen anything where I lurk - didn't know about elsewhere | 22:23 |
| knome | bluesabre, thanks | 22:23 |
| knome | #action knome to poke infinity about xubuntu core/base again | 22:23 |
| meetingology | ACTION: knome to poke infinity about xubuntu core/base again | 22:23 |
| knome | #action knome to update the contest website plugin from staging | 22:24 |
| meetingology | ACTION: knome to update the contest website plugin from staging | 22:24 |
| bluesabre | Are there any other development related things folks want to discuss? | 22:24 |
| knome | or any other xubuntu-related things? | 22:24 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: I'm a tad confused about what gtk3 xfce we have/expecting tbh | 22:25 |
| flocculant | not even sure what's on iso currently - if at all | 22:26 |
| flocculant | 'the problem with using our ppa's' :) | 22:26 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: but don't need to know here and now ... | 22:26 |
| bluesabre | flocculant: Not sure for what we expect to have, depends on what gets done early this cycle... but we have xfce4-terminal, parole, mousepad, exo, several plugins already in | 22:27 |
| knome | bluesabre, Unit193 (and ochosi): i think i've asked this before, but could you put up some kind of summary about this? | 22:27 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: will we see panel? | 22:27 |
| knome | i know it's a moving target and a lot depends on what happens on the xfce side, but maybe some sketch | 22:27 |
| flocculant | knome: yea :) | 22:27 |
| bluesabre | I think I'll set up a wiki page where we can track this with some accuracy | 22:28 |
| flocculant | ty | 22:28 |
| knome | well we have the first GTK3 release of panel out, so in terms of schedule, yes, it should probably be landing | 22:28 |
| knome | bluesabre, ta, that'd be helpful | 22:28 |
| flocculant | I use the panel | 22:28 |
| bluesabre | There's some fixes coming along for the panel, but it might be good enough for release, nudge ochosi for specifics | 22:29 |
| knome | considering we're releasing on october and it's barely june here, i think we should be safe to say enough fixes have landed before freezes | 22:29 |
| knome | but again... who knows what happens :) | 22:29 |
| bluesabre | Yeah | 22:29 |
| bluesabre | I'll be doubling down on the settings manager again after this parole release, so that might even be release worthy this cycle | 22:30 |
| bluesabre | Definitely lots of fun things to play with | 22:30 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: if there's a more or less working git one of those I can install it | 22:31 |
| bluesabre | flocculant: I'll look into that... I think we have something somewhere, or we can | 22:31 |
| flocculant | I think I did some checking and bug reporting last cycle for that on bugzilla | 22:31 |
| knome | #action bluesabre to put up a wikipage for traking GTK3-enabled components of Xfce in Xubuntu | 22:31 |
| meetingology | ACTION: bluesabre to put up a wikipage for traking GTK3-enabled components of Xfce in Xubuntu | 22:31 |
| bluesabre | thanks knome | 22:32 |
| knome | np | 22:32 |
| bluesabre | Nothing more from me atm | 22:33 |
| knome | so... any other discussions or action items that should be added to make sure the discussions here are continued as needed? | 22:33 |
| bluesabre | oh | 22:34 |
| knome | :) | 22:34 |
| bluesabre | Do we want to have some sort of flexible schedule for these meetings going forward, like a monthly checkin? | 22:34 |
| bluesabre | The Council just decided to get this one rolling late last week | 22:34 |
| knome | based on flocculant's suggestion | 22:35 |
| knome | anyway, i was about to suggest that we try to schedule the next meeting between 1-3 weeks from the last one | 22:35 |
| knome | so ideally every 2 weeks | 22:35 |
| knome | but give some wiggle room because life | 22:35 |
| flocculant | didn't we do that before? | 22:35 |
| knome | i think yes at least when i was chairing each meeting :P | 22:36 |
| bluesabre | :D | 22:36 |
| knome | i mean, i don't mind chairing now and then | 22:36 |
| knome | even on others' turns if they suddenly can't come | 22:36 |
| flocculant | well - on the other hand - milestones come regularly - why not just do one week prior? | 22:36 |
| knome | that's all perfectly fine | 22:36 |
| knome | i just hope that nobody has to be the person that is expected to chair every time :) | 22:37 |
| bluesabre | I'm also not opposed to chairing more frequently, but my schedule usually misses everyone elses | 22:37 |
| flocculant | nothing to stop having more than then | 22:37 |
| knome | flocculant, definitely more coordination around milestones is needed | 22:37 |
| flocculant | mmm | 22:37 |
| knome | might be useful to have one meeting 2 weeks before and one meeting 1 week before each milestone | 22:37 |
| bluesabre | Sounds reasonable to me | 22:38 |
| knome | i think we can agree with bluesabre that the council can take the chairing for at least some of those meetings if it looks like the next-up-chair can't | 22:39 |
| knome | or even: | 22:39 |
| knome | schedule the meeting dates now, and the next-up-chair at that point chairs at a time that works for them - if the date isn't suitable for them at all, council takes the chair | 22:39 |
| knome | with two betas that makes up to 4 "extra" meetings for council and i have no problem doing half of them if time permits | 22:40 |
| knome | #nick council | 22:41 |
| flocculant | knome: right - well I kind of meant use the 'milestones' not necessarily the ones we participate in | 22:41 |
| knome | #action council to have a talk about meetings before milestones | 22:41 |
| meetingology | ACTION: council to have a talk about meetings before milestones | 22:41 |
| knome | flocculant, aha... ack :) | 22:41 |
| knome | anyway, from my POV it's better if the schedule can be organic | 22:42 |
| flocculant | heh | 22:42 |
| knome | unless there are milestones we participate in etc | 22:42 |
| bluesabre | +1 | 22:42 |
| knome | so... anything else? | 22:43 |
| flocculant | nope | 22:43 |
| bluesabre | nada | 22:43 |
| slickymasterWork | niente | 22:44 |
| knome | ok | 22:44 |
| knome | #topic Schedule next meeting | 22:44 |
| knome | #action slickymasterWork to schedule next meeting | 22:44 |
| meetingology | ACTION: slickymasterWork to schedule next meeting | 22:44 |
| knome | slickymasterWork, in the next 1-3 weeks please :P | 22:44 |
| knome | #endmeeting | 22:44 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended Wed May 31 22:44:42 2017 UTC. | 22:44 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2017/xubuntu-devel.2017-05-31-22.00.moin.txt | 22:44 |
| knome | thanks everybody | 22:44 |
| bluesabre | thanks knome | 22:44 |
| knome | i'll put up the minutes a tad later | 22:44 |
| Unit193 | 'Welcome. | 22:44 |
| slickymasterWork | thanks knome | 22:44 |
| flocculant | thanks knome | 22:45 |
| knome | noooo worries | 22:45 |
| bluesabre | what about that one? | 22:45 |
| knome | nope, not even that | 22:45 |
| * bluesabre is impressed | 22:45 | |
| bluesabre | dinner time, bbl | 22:46 |
| knome | bon appetit | 22:46 |
| flocculant | night all | 22:46 |
| knome | nighty flocculant | 22:46 |
| Unit193 | xubuntu-artwork - 17.04 → 17.10; Bump to 17.10. (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-artwork/17.10) | 22:48 |
| Unit193 | xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin - 0.2.4-2 → 0.2.5-0ubuntu1; Re-connects to pa now. (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin/0.2.5-0ubuntu1) | 22:48 |
| Unit193 | xfce4-dict - 0.7.99-0ubuntu1 → 0.8.0-0ubuntu1; First stable release. (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-dict/0.8.0-0ubuntu1) | 22:48 |
| Unit193 | xfce4-terminal - 0.8.4-1 → 0.8.5.1-0ubuntu3; Bugfix release. | 22:48 |
| Unit193 | tumbler - 0.1.31-2build4 → 0.1.92.1-0ubuntu1; development based on gdbus, add support for *.thumbnailers (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tumbler/0.1.90-0ubuntu1, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tumbler/0.1.92.1-0ubuntu1) | 22:49 |
| Unit193 | Little late, but just after meeting is close enough.\ | 22:49 |
| knome | :P | 22:49 |
| knome | i'm sure that was intentional | 22:49 |
| Unit193 | Eh, well I was at a funeral, then had to get part of supper on. | 22:49 |
| knome | ouch | 22:50 |
| knome | i'm sorry. | 22:50 |
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