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mel_hey04:35
mel_i want to know few things..04:35
mel_anyone there???04:37
alkisg!ask04:50
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience04:50
alkisgmel_: ^04:50
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oli_57hello guys11:04
Jack_Sparrow__!abd15:30
vltHello. How can I lock the screen when MATE (Ubuntu 16.04) is running inside a vnc session initiated by xrdp's session manager?16:28
Akulitry mate-screensaver-command --lock16:37
Akulion a terminal16:37
Akulior alt+f2 box16:37
mcnealfamqodhyuxizsq16:44
Akulihi mcnealfam :)16:45
alkisgAnd qodhyuxizsq to you too16:50
vltAkuli: Thank you, I’ll try that.16:56
vltAkuli: The first time I run the command I get a black screen (as expected) but as soon as I move the mouse the desktop is visible again (w/o password prompt).16:59
vltAkuli: The second time I run the command I get "** Message: Screensaver is not running!" on the command line.16:59
Akuliweird 0_o check your screensaver settings17:01
Akulisomewhere in the menu17:01
alkisgMaybe mate-screensaver crashed and you need to manually start it from the command line to see where it segfaults17:05
alkisgPossibly xrdp+vnc doesn't setup the session properly17:06
vltalkisg: termbin.com/vhex17:10
vltThis happens when I run the --lock command in another shell.17:11
vltThe screensaver is set to blank screen.17:11
alkisgRight, so that's the error you want to report17:13
Akulivlt, run LANG=C mate-screensaver-command --lock to get the message in english17:15
Akulimore people will understand it if you report it somewhere17:15
alkisgLANG=en_US.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=en mate-screensaver on one window, and the lock command on the other window17:17
Akulioh the message isn't from the lock command ok17:18
alkisgAlso LANG=C sometimes causes non-ascii errors, C.UTF-8 is better, or en_US.UTF-8...17:20
Akuliyeah usually i'm lazy and i just use C17:21
mate|86950installed mate18:17
vltalkisg, Akuli: http://termbin.com/oi3018:20
dialedhello18:27
dialednoob question: How long should I wait for reboot after pulling install media during installation? As I press "enter" the cursor registers by going to the next line over the mate logo screen and the 5 dots continue to loop but nothing seems to happen18:29
dialedapparently a very long time.... Awesome, it just rebooted!!!18:53
Akuliusually i just hold down the power button if something gets stuck at that point18:57
Jack_Sparrow__!patience19:11
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/19:11
Kenzohello room20:47
Kenzoi'm looking to do a full install of ubuntu-mate to replace windows. i formatted my disk to have / as primary, /home as primary and then a logical partition as swap area. i got an error about needing a partition for bootloader code??? 'efi boot partition' can this be a logical partition?20:50
Kenzoi have trawled forums. i'm resigning to just make all my partitions logical, i've read so much on it i don't even know why primary options exist20:53
KTradlogical partitions are what you put inside an extended partition. It allows for more than 4 partitions on a disk20:56
KTradAs you are limited to 4 primary partitions per disk20:57
Kenzooh hey. i knew i couldn't have more than four. i've not created an extended partition. not sure i'd know how to. i simply wanted my /home on a separate partition then it got all complicated.20:59
KTradHow many partitions? Just swap, root, and home?20:59
Kenzoyes that's what i intended but when i tried to install it said i needed an EFI system partition21:01
KTradsorry about that idk if you responded21:02
KTradold computer acting up21:02
Kenzono worries. yeah i wanted 3 partitions21:02
Kenzobut when i tried to install it said i needed efi system partition?21:03
KTradoh so your computer uses UEFI then?21:03
KTradYou have 2 options there really21:04
Kenzoyeah21:04
Kenzooh i have options?21:04
KTradenable legacy booting in BIOS/UEFI and boot the install media in MBR/Legacy mode21:04
Kenzoi've enabled legacy mode though i'm unsure how to boot into it to install the media.21:05
KTrador keep EFI booting as default and create an EFI partition. Should be an option in the drop down for formatting21:06
KTradbetween 100-200mb should be plenty in my experience21:06
Kenzoyes i noticed that option. i've heard anywhere up to 1gb. i have a 1tb hdd so happy to choose top bracket. does need to be a primary partition?21:07
KTradwell it doesn't need to be but what I would do is put in the case of your hdd, 500mb EFI primary, 4 - 8GB swap as primary, then extended for the rest and fill that with 100gb for / and the rest for /home21:09
KTrad100gb is overkill for / but can't hurt to have the space21:09
KTradthe / and /home being logical21:10
Kenzoi think i may make EFI primary and the rest logical. but i might not need to do that if i've enabled legacy by the sounds of it?21:11
Kenzothanks, you're way more helpful than the forums i've been trawling!!21:11
KTradoh21:12
KTradwell21:12
KTradif you want to boot legacy then no need for EFI partition just make sure you boot the install media in legacy mode21:12
KTradshould be an option before boot to press F12 or Del (something like that) for boot menu21:12
KTradselect USB/CD legacy instead of UEFI/EFI21:12
KTradthough make sure you repartition the disk in MBR not GPT21:13
KTradand a /boot partition of about 500mb - 1024mb21:13
Kenzowahh. i think i'll just boot with uefi and make the efi partition the rest sounds way complicated!21:14
KTradlol21:14
KTradit can be a bit much that's for sure21:15
KTradespecially if you are unfamiliar with it21:15
Kenzoyeah i am quite, i've only dual booted so far. i think i'll take the plunge. thanks for your help!21:16
KTradanytime21:17
Jack_Sparrow__!virtualbox22:06
ubottuVirtualbox is a virtualizer for x86 and amd64 architectures. It's available in the package "virtualbox" in the !repositories, and you can download the Virtualbox Extension Pack for additional, non-Free functionality at http://virtualbox.org . Additional details can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox22:06
KTradthank god I have a thinkpad. set the bag on the ground forgot about it and stepped on it. Computer is unharmed :D22:07
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nadrimajstor`sudo apt install xserver-xorg-hwe-16.04` will offer to REMOVE ubuntu-mate-core and ubuntu-mate-desktop packages. Looking from the user's perspective it doesn't seem right. :?22:24
mate|34013installed mate on a dual core 2.6ghz pentium d all good23:08
mate|34013tirol austria23:08
dialedshortcut key to hide app in mate?23:12
dialedsorry noob...23:12

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