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[04:35] <mel_> hey
[04:35] <mel_> i want to know few things..
[04:37] <mel_> anyone there???
[04:50] <alkisg> !ask
[04:50] <ubottu> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience
[04:50] <alkisg> mel_: ^
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[11:04] <oli_57> hello guys
[15:30] <Jack_Sparrow__> !abd
[16:28] <vlt> Hello. How can I lock the screen when MATE (Ubuntu 16.04) is running inside a vnc session initiated by xrdp's session manager?
[16:37] <Akuli> try mate-screensaver-command --lock
[16:37] <Akuli> on a terminal
[16:37] <Akuli> or alt+f2 box
[16:44] <mcnealfam> qodhyuxizsq
[16:45] <Akuli> hi mcnealfam :)
[16:50] <alkisg> And qodhyuxizsq to you too
[16:56] <vlt> Akuli: Thank you, I’ll try that.
[16:59] <vlt> Akuli: The first time I run the command I get a black screen (as expected) but as soon as I move the mouse the desktop is visible again (w/o password prompt).
[16:59] <vlt> Akuli: The second time I run the command I get "** Message: Screensaver is not running!" on the command line.
[17:01] <Akuli> weird 0_o check your screensaver settings
[17:01] <Akuli> somewhere in the menu
[17:05] <alkisg> Maybe mate-screensaver crashed and you need to manually start it from the command line to see where it segfaults
[17:06] <alkisg> Possibly xrdp+vnc doesn't setup the session properly
[17:10] <vlt> alkisg: termbin.com/vhex
[17:11] <vlt> This happens when I run the --lock command in another shell.
[17:11] <vlt> The screensaver is set to blank screen.
[17:13] <alkisg> Right, so that's the error you want to report
[17:15] <Akuli> vlt, run LANG=C mate-screensaver-command --lock to get the message in english
[17:15] <Akuli> more people will understand it if you report it somewhere
[17:17] <alkisg> LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=en mate-screensaver on one window, and the lock command on the other window
[17:18] <Akuli> oh the message isn't from the lock command ok
[17:20] <alkisg> Also LANG=C sometimes causes non-ascii errors, C.UTF-8 is better, or en_US.UTF-8...
[17:21] <Akuli> yeah usually i'm lazy and i just use C
[18:17] <mate|86950> installed mate
[18:20] <vlt> alkisg, Akuli: http://termbin.com/oi30
[18:27] <dialed> hello
[18:29] <dialed> noob question: How long should I wait for reboot after pulling install media during installation? As I press "enter" the cursor registers by going to the next line over the mate logo screen and the 5 dots continue to loop but nothing seems to happen
[18:53] <dialed> apparently a very long time.... Awesome, it just rebooted!!!
[18:57] <Akuli> usually i just hold down the power button if something gets stuck at that point
[19:11] <Jack_Sparrow__> !patience
[19:11] <ubottu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/
[20:47] <Kenzo> hello room
[20:50] <Kenzo> i'm looking to do a full install of ubuntu-mate to replace windows. i formatted my disk to have / as primary, /home as primary and then a logical partition as swap area. i got an error about needing a partition for bootloader code??? 'efi boot partition' can this be a logical partition?
[20:53] <Kenzo> i have trawled forums. i'm resigning to just make all my partitions logical, i've read so much on it i don't even know why primary options exist
[20:56] <KTrad> logical partitions are what you put inside an extended partition. It allows for more than 4 partitions on a disk
[20:57] <KTrad> As you are limited to 4 primary partitions per disk
[20:59] <Kenzo> oh hey. i knew i couldn't have more than four. i've not created an extended partition. not sure i'd know how to. i simply wanted my /home on a separate partition then it got all complicated.
[20:59] <KTrad> How many partitions? Just swap, root, and home?
[21:01] <Kenzo> yes that's what i intended but when i tried to install it said i needed an EFI system partition
[21:02] <KTrad> sorry about that idk if you responded
[21:02] <KTrad> old computer acting up
[21:02] <Kenzo> no worries. yeah i wanted 3 partitions
[21:03] <Kenzo> but when i tried to install it said i needed efi system partition?
[21:03] <KTrad> oh so your computer uses UEFI then?
[21:04] <KTrad> You have 2 options there really
[21:04] <Kenzo> yeah
[21:04] <Kenzo> oh i have options?
[21:04] <KTrad> enable legacy booting in BIOS/UEFI and boot the install media in MBR/Legacy mode
[21:05] <Kenzo> i've enabled legacy mode though i'm unsure how to boot into it to install the media.
[21:06] <KTrad> or keep EFI booting as default and create an EFI partition. Should be an option in the drop down for formatting
[21:06] <KTrad> between 100-200mb should be plenty in my experience
[21:07] <Kenzo> yes i noticed that option. i've heard anywhere up to 1gb. i have a 1tb hdd so happy to choose top bracket. does need to be a primary partition?
[21:09] <KTrad> well it doesn't need to be but what I would do is put in the case of your hdd, 500mb EFI primary, 4 - 8GB swap as primary, then extended for the rest and fill that with 100gb for / and the rest for /home
[21:09] <KTrad> 100gb is overkill for / but can't hurt to have the space
[21:10] <KTrad> the / and /home being logical
[21:11] <Kenzo> i think i may make EFI primary and the rest logical. but i might not need to do that if i've enabled legacy by the sounds of it?
[21:11] <Kenzo> thanks, you're way more helpful than the forums i've been trawling!!
[21:12] <KTrad> oh
[21:12] <KTrad> well
[21:12] <KTrad> if you want to boot legacy then no need for EFI partition just make sure you boot the install media in legacy mode
[21:12] <KTrad> should be an option before boot to press F12 or Del (something like that) for boot menu
[21:12] <KTrad> select USB/CD legacy instead of UEFI/EFI
[21:13] <KTrad> though make sure you repartition the disk in MBR not GPT
[21:13] <KTrad> and a /boot partition of about 500mb - 1024mb
[21:14] <Kenzo> wahh. i think i'll just boot with uefi and make the efi partition the rest sounds way complicated!
[21:14] <KTrad> lol
[21:15] <KTrad> it can be a bit much that's for sure
[21:15] <KTrad> especially if you are unfamiliar with it
[21:16] <Kenzo> yeah i am quite, i've only dual booted so far. i think i'll take the plunge. thanks for your help!
[21:17] <KTrad> anytime
[22:06] <Jack_Sparrow__> !virtualbox
[22:06] <ubottu> Virtualbox is a virtualizer for x86 and amd64 architectures. It's available in the package "virtualbox" in the !repositories, and you can download the Virtualbox Extension Pack for additional, non-Free functionality at http://virtualbox.org . Additional details can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
[22:07] <KTrad> thank god I have a thinkpad. set the bag on the ground forgot about it and stepped on it. Computer is unharmed :D
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[22:24] <nadrimajstor> `sudo apt install xserver-xorg-hwe-16.04` will offer to REMOVE ubuntu-mate-core and ubuntu-mate-desktop packages. Looking from the user's perspective it doesn't seem right. :?
[23:08] <mate|34013> installed mate on a dual core 2.6ghz pentium d all good
[23:08] <mate|34013> tirol austria
[23:12] <dialed> shortcut key to hide app in mate?
[23:12] <dialed> sorry noob...