[04:35] <mel_> hey
[04:35] <mel_> i want to know few things..
[04:37] <mel_> anyone there???
[04:50] <alkisg> !ask
[04:50] <alkisg> mel_: ^
[11:04] <oli_57> hello guys
[15:30] <Jack_Sparrow__> !abd
[16:28] <vlt> Hello. How can I lock the screen when MATE (Ubuntu 16.04) is running inside a vnc session initiated by xrdp's session manager?
[16:37] <Akuli> try mate-screensaver-command --lock
[16:37] <Akuli> on a terminal
[16:37] <Akuli> or alt+f2 box
[16:44] <mcnealfam> qodhyuxizsq
[16:45] <Akuli> hi mcnealfam :)
[16:50] <alkisg> And qodhyuxizsq to you too
[16:56] <vlt> Akuli: Thank you, I’ll try that.
[16:59] <vlt> Akuli: The first time I run the command I get a black screen (as expected) but as soon as I move the mouse the desktop is visible again (w/o password prompt).
[16:59] <vlt> Akuli: The second time I run the command I get "** Message: Screensaver is not running!" on the command line.
[17:01] <Akuli> weird 0_o check your screensaver settings
[17:01] <Akuli> somewhere in the menu
[17:05] <alkisg> Maybe mate-screensaver crashed and you need to manually start it from the command line to see where it segfaults
[17:06] <alkisg> Possibly xrdp+vnc doesn't setup the session properly
[17:10] <vlt> alkisg: termbin.com/vhex
[17:11] <vlt> This happens when I run the --lock command in another shell.
[17:11] <vlt> The screensaver is set to blank screen.
[17:13] <alkisg> Right, so that's the error you want to report
[17:15] <Akuli> vlt, run LANG=C mate-screensaver-command --lock to get the message in english
[17:15] <Akuli> more people will understand it if you report it somewhere
[17:17] <alkisg> LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=en mate-screensaver on one window, and the lock command on the other window
[17:18] <Akuli> oh the message isn't from the lock command ok
[17:20] <alkisg> Also LANG=C sometimes causes non-ascii errors, C.UTF-8 is better, or en_US.UTF-8...
[17:21] <Akuli> yeah usually i'm lazy and i just use C
[18:17] <mate|86950> installed mate
[18:20] <vlt> alkisg, Akuli: http://termbin.com/oi30
[18:27] <dialed> hello
[18:29] <dialed> noob question: How long should I wait for reboot after pulling install media during installation? As I press "enter" the cursor registers by going to the next line over the mate logo screen and the 5 dots continue to loop but nothing seems to happen
[18:53] <dialed> apparently a very long time.... Awesome, it just rebooted!!!
[18:57] <Akuli> usually i just hold down the power button if something gets stuck at that point
[19:11] <Jack_Sparrow__> !patience
[20:47] <Kenzo> hello room
[20:50] <Kenzo> i'm looking to do a full install of ubuntu-mate to replace windows. i formatted my disk to have / as primary, /home as primary and then a logical partition as swap area. i got an error about needing a partition for bootloader code??? 'efi boot partition' can this be a logical partition?
[20:53] <Kenzo> i have trawled forums. i'm resigning to just make all my partitions logical, i've read so much on it i don't even know why primary options exist
[20:56] <KTrad> logical partitions are what you put inside an extended partition. It allows for more than 4 partitions on a disk
[20:57] <KTrad> As you are limited to 4 primary partitions per disk
[20:59] <Kenzo> oh hey. i knew i couldn't have more than four. i've not created an extended partition. not sure i'd know how to. i simply wanted my /home on a separate partition then it got all complicated.
[20:59] <KTrad> How many partitions? Just swap, root, and home?
[21:01] <Kenzo> yes that's what i intended but when i tried to install it said i needed an EFI system partition
[21:02] <KTrad> sorry about that idk if you responded
[21:02] <KTrad> old computer acting up
[21:02] <Kenzo> no worries. yeah i wanted 3 partitions
[21:03] <Kenzo> but when i tried to install it said i needed efi system partition?
[21:03] <KTrad> oh so your computer uses UEFI then?
[21:04] <KTrad> You have 2 options there really
[21:04] <Kenzo> yeah
[21:04] <Kenzo> oh i have options?
[21:04] <KTrad> enable legacy booting in BIOS/UEFI and boot the install media in MBR/Legacy mode
[21:05] <Kenzo> i've enabled legacy mode though i'm unsure how to boot into it to install the media.
[21:06] <KTrad> or keep EFI booting as default and create an EFI partition. Should be an option in the drop down for formatting
[21:06] <KTrad> between 100-200mb should be plenty in my experience
[21:07] <Kenzo> yes i noticed that option. i've heard anywhere up to 1gb. i have a 1tb hdd so happy to choose top bracket. does need to be a primary partition?
[21:09] <KTrad> well it doesn't need to be but what I would do is put in the case of your hdd, 500mb EFI primary, 4 - 8GB swap as primary, then extended for the rest and fill that with 100gb for / and the rest for /home
[21:09] <KTrad> 100gb is overkill for / but can't hurt to have the space
[21:10] <KTrad> the / and /home being logical
[21:11] <Kenzo> i think i may make EFI primary and the rest logical. but i might not need to do that if i've enabled legacy by the sounds of it?
[21:11] <Kenzo> thanks, you're way more helpful than the forums i've been trawling!!
[21:12] <KTrad> oh
[21:12] <KTrad> well
[21:12] <KTrad> if you want to boot legacy then no need for EFI partition just make sure you boot the install media in legacy mode
[21:12] <KTrad> should be an option before boot to press F12 or Del (something like that) for boot menu
[21:12] <KTrad> select USB/CD legacy instead of UEFI/EFI
[21:13] <KTrad> though make sure you repartition the disk in MBR not GPT
[21:13] <KTrad> and a /boot partition of about 500mb - 1024mb
[21:14] <Kenzo> wahh. i think i'll just boot with uefi and make the efi partition the rest sounds way complicated!
[21:14] <KTrad> lol
[21:15] <KTrad> it can be a bit much that's for sure
[21:15] <KTrad> especially if you are unfamiliar with it
[21:16] <Kenzo> yeah i am quite, i've only dual booted so far. i think i'll take the plunge. thanks for your help!
[21:17] <KTrad> anytime
[22:06] <Jack_Sparrow__> !virtualbox
[22:07] <KTrad> thank god I have a thinkpad. set the bag on the ground forgot about it and stepped on it. Computer is unharmed :D
[22:24] <nadrimajstor> `sudo apt install xserver-xorg-hwe-16.04` will offer to REMOVE ubuntu-mate-core and ubuntu-mate-desktop packages. Looking from the user's perspective it doesn't seem right. :?
[23:08] <mate|34013> installed mate on a dual core 2.6ghz pentium d all good
[23:08] <mate|34013> tirol austria
[23:12] <dialed> shortcut key to hide app in mate?
[23:12] <dialed> sorry noob...