[00:02] <IntelCore> is there a way toM? re install PA
[00:02] <IntelCore> rt, PAM?
[00:04] <vimar> Hiya
[00:31] <gde33> not sure how to word it, it seems the response time in firefox for mouse and keyboard events is declining slowly. Some stuff works just fine but typing in the firefox search box or form fields may be supper slow all of a sudden. Pausing html5 videos is the worse part, it registers the click but can easily take 10 seconds.
[00:32] <mas0> Hi! I'm having no luck in having ufw start on boot using Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS. ufw works but I have to start it manually after every reboot. Can someone help me troubleshoot this please?
[00:32] <gde33> clicking the skip this add button on youtube takes longer than the add
[00:33] <psychoticwarrior> yea i have the same problem sometimes. youtube can be a bitch
[00:34] <gde33> I wrote an infinite scroll javascript a few years ago, at first I had it insert 1 line when a scroll event triggered
[00:34] <Loshki> gde33: as someone patiently pointed out to me, the first thing to try is a different browser.
[00:35] <gde33> Loshki: to see if the problem is there also?
[00:35] <Loshki> gde33: exactly.
[00:36] <gde33> chrome has this anoying keyring popup
[00:36] <AntumD> I just broke my installation. The system was installing updates & was hard reset in the process....
[00:37] <AntumD> Now it starts in "emergency mode" & I can't get networking to work.
[00:37] <psychoticwarrior> grub-install <device>
[00:37] <psychoticwarrior> update-grub
[00:37] <psychoticwarrior> update-initramfs -u
[00:37] <gde33> chrome has this anoying keyring popup that I have to cancle 8 times
[00:37] <psychoticwarrior> if you cant boot
[00:38] <psychoticwarrior> Antumd
[00:38] <gde33> on chrome yt respondes instantly
[00:39] <gde33> on mozilla irc the response is usually to install the version from the website rather than using the one that comes with ubuntu.
[00:40] <Langley> Hello, running Ubuntu Gnome 16.04, my second monitor is above my primary, and full screen programs open on the secondary.... how can I change that?
[00:40] <AntumD> Okay psychoticwarrior, I've already tried "grub-install", but I will try the others.
[00:41] <Bashing-om> AntumD: Can you boot to grub's boot menu -> recovery kernel -> enable networking ?
[00:41] <AntumD> Actually psychoticwarrior, I think I've done all of that.
[00:41] <psychoticwarrior> ok
[00:41] <psychoticwarrior> yea thats true
[00:42] <psychoticwarrior> AntumD you cant get networking too work
[00:42] <psychoticwarrior> ?
[00:42] <AntumD> Yes Bashing-om, I can boot into recovery. But I can't start networking.
[00:42] <luis30> for some reason all of a sudden im getting on error about saving information on a certain folder..how can i change the permissions back to where it should be to be able to download and save
[00:43] <Bashing-om> AntumD: from the enable networking option in the recovery menu ?
[00:43]  * bitch hugs psychoticwarrior
[00:44] <AntumD> Not sure if it's important, but I am using Ubuntu-derived (yakkety) Linux Mint.
[00:44] <tgm4883> AntumD: which isn't supported here
[00:44] <AntumD> I'm booting into recovery now, I'll check messages.
[00:44] <Bashing-om> AntumD: Then ya need to talk with the mint folks ;
[00:44] <Bashing-om> !mint | AntumD
[00:46] <psychoticwarrior> *bitch did you get it to work
[00:46] <nacc> psychoticwarrior: that is inappropriate for this channel
[00:46] <AntumD> You mean, you would have helped me had I not said I was on Linux Mint :'(. Okay, I'll go over to Mint channel.
[00:47] <psychoticwarrior> my bad thats his nick
[00:47]  * bitch waves to nacc
[00:47] <nacc> psychoticwarrior: ah i see, sorry
[00:48] <luis30> how you reset persmissions back to defult in #ubuntu folder
[00:48] <Bashing-om> AntumD: Not true . We would offer help of you were booting 'buntu . Many things different in mint we are not aware of .
[00:48] <nacc> luis30: you cannot generally 'reset' permissions -- there is no default value
[00:49] <nacc> luis30: also what is "#ubuntu folder"?
[00:49] <luis30> download...okay then what is the settings for a fresh install
[00:49] <kenrin> settings for what luis30.  Each directory is going to have different ones
[00:50] <luis30> kenrin, when you first create a folder or if its already created the first settins
[00:50] <nacc> luis30: depends on the umask
[00:50] <kenrin> That would depend on the users umask
[00:50] <nacc> luis30: your question has no meaning in Linux, on its own
[00:50] <Langley> luis30, for the "Downloads" folder the permissions is probably drwxr-xr-x
[00:51] <luis30> how do i set that to that
[00:51] <Langley> If you open a terminal and write "ls -l" you can see it
[00:51] <luis30> what is the terminal command to define that for a folder...
[00:51] <psychoticwarrior> go to files and then locate the folder and right click then properties
[00:52] <Langley> should be chmod but I can't remember what numbers to use...
[00:52] <luis30> anyone know the chmod command
[00:52] <psychoticwarrior> ya it is chmod
[00:52] <kenrin> 1 = x,  2 = w,  4 = r
[00:52] <psychoticwarrior> chmod 755 <>
[00:53] <luis30> cmmod 755 Downloads ?
[00:53] <luis30> chmod
[00:53] <psychoticwarrior> idk maybe i cant really remember
[00:53] <Langley> Should be that
[00:54] <kenrin> You don't typically want to give execute on files.  644 is what I would consider "default" for those.
[00:55] <luis30> its still not wanting to save
[00:55] <psychoticwarrior> su -
[00:55] <psychoticwarrior> log into root
[00:55] <nacc> luis30: ok, so rather than asking any of these things, tell us the actual problem
[00:55] <luis30> how do i chnage the permissions of a folder called Downloads
[00:55] <Langley> luis30, what is the output of "ls -l" ?
[00:55] <nacc> psychoticwarrior: we don't recommend being root generally, in ubuntu
[00:55] <psychoticwarrior> yea i agree
[00:55] <nacc> psychoticwarrior: careful sudo usage is appropriate
[00:55] <psychoticwarrior> it may help thoighh
[00:55] <luis30> i want to download something in a folder called download it saying i dont have permission
[00:55] <psychoticwarrior> true
[00:55] <psychoticwarrior> i use sudo
[00:55] <luis30> all of a sudden for no reason it changed
[00:56] <psychoticwarrior> did u get it to work
[00:56] <luis30> no
[00:56] <luis30> no one here knows how to change the permissions of a folder download to be able to save?
[00:56] <nacc> luis30: Langley's question still stands -- and/or show us in a pastebin the command you ran and the output
[00:57] <nacc> luis30: we all do, but that's not what you're actually hitting, most likely
[00:57] <kenrin> Try using the full path to the folder
[00:57] <nacc> luis30: and setting folders to world writable so that you can download to them is wrong
[00:57] <kenrin> ex.  /home/luis30/Downloads
[00:58] <nacc> luis30: and 'download' and 'Downloads' are totally different directories
[00:58] <nacc> luis30: finally, what is 'it'? a browser? the terminal?
[00:58] <Bashing-om> luis30: " sysop@x1604:~$ ls -ld Downloads >> sysop@x1604:~$ ls -ld Downloads
[00:58] <Bashing-om> drwxr-xr-x 2 sysop sysop 4096 Apr 29 12:06 Downloads
[00:59] <luis30> drwxr-xr-x 62 root root
[01:00] <Langley> There's the problem, root is owning the folder
[01:00] <luis30> how i change that ...not even sure how it switched
[01:00] <Langley> Change it with "chown luis30:luis30 Downloads"
[01:00] <Langley> or whatever your user is called
[01:00] <luis30> k
[01:00] <nacc> luis30: you probably ran something (e.g., nautilus) as root or with gksudo or something
[01:01] <nacc> luis30: permissions don't randomly change
[01:03] <psychoticwarrior> back
[01:03] <luis30> looks its working now...maybe it was bleackbit that did it
[01:04] <luis30> like
[01:06] <Bashing-om> luis30: See: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo for the likely reason .
[01:33] <fadavi> hello. please help me to solve these errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24732313/
[01:55] <pseudopad> Hello. I have a mobile broadband card in my laptop, and even if it's set to disabled, ubuntu keeps nagging me to input the pin for it. Is there a way to stop this from happening?
[01:55] <pseudopad> Without disabling it in the uefi, that is. I like having the option available to me without restarting
[01:58] <kenrin> Could probably just rfkill block it on boot
[02:01] <IntelCore> pseudopad - does ubuntu want the device - on or off line?
[02:03] <IntelCore> psuedopad - when i click on connections, i can edit them
[02:04] <IntelCore> so it is disabled in connections? psuedopad?
[02:05] <krytarik> !tab
[02:06] <IntelCore> pseudopad, ??
[02:07] <IntelCore> ok.. next
[02:24] <pseudopad> hexchat started crashing over and over again
[02:24] <pseudopad> yes, mobile broadband is disabled
[02:24] <pseudopad> in the network settings
[02:26] <IntelCore> pseudopad,  ah, ok.. so ubuntu see it
[02:26] <IntelCore> pseudopad, u might give it pin then disable
[02:26] <pseudopad> disable pin? i don't really want that
[02:27] <IntelCore> pseudopad,  u have a wifi?  did u selcet it?
[02:27] <pseudopad> i have wifi, i also have mobile broadband
[02:27] <pseudopad> the first is on, the second is off
[02:28] <IntelCore> well if you want to disable an internal card..device
[02:28] <pseudopad> but ubuntu still prompts me for pin, both at the login prompt before i even log in, and then again after i log in
[02:28] <pseudopad> and after resuming from sleep
[02:28] <IntelCore> pseudopad,  u have a cablendem?
[02:28] <pseudopad> cable modem? no, i have fios.
[02:28] <IntelCore> ah, pseudopad , then it not keeping that
[02:30] <IntelCore> pa u deleted the mobile in system config?
[02:30] <pseudopad> No, i want to have it available when i leave my house
[02:30] <pseudopad> i want it disabled, not removed
[02:30] <IntelCore> yes
[02:30] <avatard> we faked the moon landings
[02:30] <avatard> and the name of the airforce base where it was filmed/faked is in the movie "sneakers"
[02:30] <bazhang> avatard, not topical here
[02:30] <IntelCore> well the card may want a pin on boot, or after suspend
[02:31] <avatard> also, eye-tracking is now in all theatres in the USA
[02:31] <bazhang> avatard, take the chatter elsewhere
[02:31] <avatard> and tinfoil is a red-herring. mind control is audible, not electromagnetic
[02:31] <pseudopad> Yes, but does that mean ubuntu is forced to activate it every time?
[02:31] <IntelCore> pseudopad,  giving an isp pin
[02:32] <draxdeveloper> hello, i am trying to configure a google drive folder. I can access the folder from nautilus, but i don't have permission to write
[02:32] <draxdeveloper> i even have tried this: sudo chmod 777 /run/user/1000/gvfs/google-drive:host=gmail.com,user=siviaf.into
[02:33] <draxdeveloper> but it's says that i don't have permission, even with the sudo command
[02:35] <pseudopad> i'm sort of trying to determine if this is a bug in the mobile network manager, or if there is a way to turn it off
[02:35] <pseudopad> i feel like asking for the pin on a turned off device is kinda weird
[02:36] <IntelCore> pseudopad,  if return from suspend it might be normal
[02:37] <IntelCore> pseudopad, is win on this pc?
[02:37] <pseudopad> what about popping up before a user is even logged in?
[02:37] <pseudopad> this is a laptop with ubuntu only
[02:38] <kenrin> Did you read the bug report pseudopad ?
[02:38] <kenrin> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/704123
[02:38] <pseudopad> i looked for one, but i didn't find any entries for this exact issue
[02:38] <pseudopad> maybe i didn't look hard enough
[02:38] <kenrin> Looks like it has been open more than five years and devs will not fix.  You could try the workaround in the comments
[02:39] <pseudopad> this looks like it could be a related bug, but not exactly the same as mine
[02:40] <kenrin> Sounds the same,  pin keeps popping up for no reason
[02:40] <pseudopad> mine is that the pin prompt pops up all the time,e ven if the device is supposed to be disabled
[02:40] <pseudopad> yeah it seems like it could come from the same underlying issue
[02:41] <pseudopad> thanks for finding that for me
[02:41] <IntelCore> pseudopad, https://askubuntu.com/questions/137815/how-to-enable-disable-mobile-broadband-from-terminal
[02:41] <IntelCore> this a script to see
[02:42] <draxdeveloper> also, when i go to a folder inside the drive i can't see it's name. Just random numbers and letters
[02:42] <pseudopad> i used to have mint on this laptop. i can't remember if i had the same issue there
[02:42] <pseudopad> i could reinstall and check i guess
[02:42] <IntelCore> pseudopad,  update network manager
[02:42] <pseudopad> it had a very similar mobile broadband manager
[02:42] <draxdeveloper> with make me think that the app don't have any permission on this folder. If i open the folder propriets it's says that the permission can't be determined
[02:43] <IntelCore> on goog drive?
[02:43] <draxdeveloper> IntelCore yep
[02:43] <pseudopad> update network manager to what?
[02:45] <draxdeveloper> i am using the gnome config solution, so it's have a google drive folder in the same way that i have a network folder (but i don't have sure if it's uses samba)
[02:45] <IntelCore>  If you share Google Docs, Sheets, Slides, or Forms, you can control whether they can edit, comment on, or only view the file.
[02:45] <IntelCore> team must be set for write
[02:45] <draxdeveloper> hum... let me see
[02:46] <IntelCore> your goog drive?
[02:48] <draxdeveloper> IntelCore, the folder is the owner folder
[02:48] <draxdeveloper> here is the location: siviaf.into@gmail.com
[02:49] <draxdeveloper> but when i look the permissions it's says that it can't be determinated
[02:50] <Makalak> hi, so as of late everytime i try to boot into ubuntu, i'm suck on /dev/sdb3 clean... blahblah, forced to go to ttyX window and fsck the main os partition, reboot to boot into OS
[02:51] <Makalak> just now, i was forced into emergency mode? having to use the same workaround to boot into the OS
[02:51] <IntelCore> draxdeveloper, it you as owner?
[02:51] <Makalak> I'm running Ubuntu 17.04 from USB 3.0 on my mac air....
[02:51] <draxdeveloper> yep, i configured ubuntu to this
[02:52] <IntelCore> draxdeveloper,  but you set perm on goog
[02:52] <draxdeveloper> IntelCore, i don't get it. The folder is the onwer folder
[02:52] <IntelCore> goog drive share
[02:53] <psychoticwarrior> drip drop drip drop
[02:53] <draxdeveloper> so, like i said it's connect with the onwer using gnome config online accounts
[02:53] <bazhang> IntelCore, please use complete sentences here
[02:53] <IntelCore> i dont think it your file permission, but googl drive settin
[02:53] <bazhang> psychoticwarrior, no nonsense, we have asked you many times to keep the silliness out of here
[02:53] <draxdeveloper> IntelCore, it's the onwer, it's have all permissions
[02:54] <psychoticwarrior> drippy droppy
[02:54] <psychoticwarrior> my bad
[02:54] <aeon-ltd> psychoticwarrior: damn you here everyday?
[02:54] <draxdeveloper> but it's a shared folder anyway
[02:55] <IntelCore> draxdeveloper, just trying to help, it's not u.
[02:55] <draxdeveloper> IntelCore, i know. But like i said i can't change anything else in my google drive
[02:56] <IntelCore> draxdeveloper,  and you set file permission for write
[02:56] <draxdeveloper> yep, it's shared with permission for write
[02:56] <IntelCore> draxdeveloper,  and goog drive setting you allow to edit
[02:56] <draxdeveloper> but where is this setting?
[02:57] <IntelCore> on ggole
[02:57] <IntelCore> I could not modify a doc, I found that I was not on the team
[02:58] <IntelCore> when the person told me to edit the file
[02:58] <draxdeveloper> IntelCore, but it's like i said. I am the owner. I don't need permission to my folder.
[02:58] <IntelCore> I could not
[02:58] <draxdeveloper> (and it's listed anyway, as onwer)
[02:59] <IntelCore> hmm can't be determined
[02:59] <draxdeveloper> yes, that is the weird part, even the root can change this
[03:00] <draxdeveloper> hum... maybe this method (using gnome config) it's just in the file manager
[03:01] <draxdeveloper> in other words, anything besids this will not have any permission
[03:01] <IntelCore> draxdeveloper,  docs & sheets require an app from google to edit files
[03:01] <draxdeveloper> i am not using a doc from google
[03:01] <IntelCore> k
[03:02] <draxdeveloper> but it's seems that even the terminal don't have access to this
[03:02] <draxdeveloper> so i think that the gnome config is giving access just to the nautilus
[03:03] <IntelCore> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/08/use-google-drive-ubuntu-16-04-linux-desktops
[03:03] <draxdeveloper> i will try to create this folder using command line, maybe this will give permission to other applications. I think what happens is that others apps are not connect to the folder (sae thig that can happen with a network folder)
[03:03] <draxdeveloper> IntelCore, ty
[03:04] <IntelCore>  install the GNOME Control Center and the GNOME Online Accounts packages
[03:05] <IntelCore> draxdeveloper,  what desktop now?
[03:06] <draxdeveloper> IntelCore, i don't uderstand your question.
[03:06] <IntelCore> ist it gnome, mint?
[03:06] <IntelCore> unity?
[03:07] <draxdeveloper> unity
[03:07] <luis30> is there silent install commands in linux like in windows...for installing a program with no user intereaction
[03:07] <IntelCore> k, hmm.. gnome 3.18
[03:09] <IntelCore> draxdeveloper,  after install, you will get a gnome - auth logon panel button top near where ener password, click it to choose
[03:09] <draxdeveloper> IntelCore, but there is no risk of creating conflits?
[03:10] <IntelCore> unity and gnome work
[03:10] <Speed_> im trying to install OBS and it just says "fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/kirillshkrogalev/ffmpeg-next/ubuntu/dists/xenial/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found"
[03:10] <aeon-ltd> luis30: i think at some point there needs to be some interaction, what are you looking to do?
[03:10] <IntelCore> draxdeveloper,  it will change your desktop environment, but features still there
[03:11] <Speed_> and then it just stops
[03:11] <luis30> inmport on a virtualbox program
[03:11] <draxdeveloper> IntelCore, so i will have to use gnome to work in the drive?
[03:13] <aeon-ltd> luis30: import a vm into virtualbox?
[03:14] <luis30> -silent a valid command
[03:14] <luis30> ?
[03:15] <aeon-ltd> luis30: there is a vbox channel on freenode i think they may know better than i, sorry i couldn't be of further help
[03:15] <luis30> im asking for general silent install commands
[03:15] <luis30> linux
[03:15] <luis30> windows has them does linux have them?
[03:15] <IntelCore> draxdeveloper,  it is cas of drive and unity
[03:16] <IntelCore> draxdeveloper,  webupd8.org/2016/03/use-gnome-318-google-drive-integration.html
[03:16] <draxdeveloper> IntelCore, ok
[03:16] <IntelCore> that should fix draxdeveloper
[03:17] <aeon-ltd> luis30: i found something on google https://askubuntu.com/questions/448358/automating-apt-get-install-with-assume-yes
[03:17] <Speed_> help
[03:17] <draxdeveloper> ty
[03:17] <aeon-ltd> Speed_: jsut ask and wait for a reply
[03:17] <aeon-ltd> *just
[03:18] <luis30> thanks aeon-ltd
[03:18] <genio> I've been looking, and I can't find anything that tells me how to fix the DNS lookup issue in 17.04  I can't find local network names at all, even though in the GUI it shows my router as the first place. /etc/resolv.conf shows 127.0.0.53 for the nameserver
[03:19] <genio> I don't want to have to manually edit /etc/resolv.conf all the time and deal with other changes when I'm elsewhere
[03:19] <Speed_> im having troubble installing OBS
[03:20] <genio> That's a bit vague
[03:21] <aeon-ltd> Speed_: open broadcaster software?
[03:22] <genio> There are several walkthroughs that are pretty simple seeming from googling obs ubuntu
[03:22] <genio> what problem are you having?
[03:22] <Speed_> yes
[03:22] <Speed_> https://hastebin.com/ahojubicec.sql
[03:23] <Speed_> this is the output of the install
[03:24] <genio> But seriously, what the hell is going on with /etc/resolv.conf?!?
[03:28] <Jordan_U> genio: 127.0.0.53 is the systemd-resolved stub resolver. It is not an indication of what non-local dns server you're using.
[03:29] <genio> it's broken
[03:29] <genio> no local name resolution can happen this way.
[03:30] <genio> how do I fix the systemd-resolved stub resolver?
[03:32] <genio> When DHCP requests are made here, the router should be the current nameserver. it shows it as such when I look at network settings in the gui settings area. yet, in the command line, nothing is reachable unless I _manually_ add   nameserver my_routers_ip
[03:32] <genio> then, obviously, that's broken if I happen to move to another network or restart the machine for any reason
[03:33] <genio> so, how do I fix the broken behavior?
[03:34] <Jordan_U> genio: You're adding "nameserver ..." to /etc/resolv.conf ?
[03:35] <genio> in order to get local lookups to actually work. yes
[03:35] <genio> which is not the appropriate answer
[03:36] <Ojitos> hi
[03:36] <Ojitos> im new in this chat
[03:36] <Jordan_U> genio: Please pastebin the output of "nmcli connection show --active".
[03:37] <genio> that just gives my wireless sid and device
[03:37] <Bashing-om> Ojitos: You have found ubuntu support :)
[03:39] <Ojitos> :O
[03:39] <Ojitos> excelent
[03:39] <Jordan_U> genio: Which tells me the network name so that you can then pastebin the output of "nmcli connection show NETWORK_NAME_HERE".
[03:40] <Ojitos> im tryied some time the gnome cube efects but never runs
[03:40] <Ojitos> i have the latest version of ubuntu
[03:49] <genio> IP4.DNS[1]:  is correct, yet ipv4.dns: is blank
[04:04] <YankDownUnder> Ojitos, Assuming you've activated the desktop effects...?
[04:07] <Ojitos> i dont know how to do that
[04:08] <Ojitos> also i have diffrent graphic surround for example im using now cinnamon
[04:09] <YankDownUnder> Ojitos, Fair enough. I gave up on Cinnamon - have to get into the Cinnamon forums/channels for assistance on that.
[04:10] <genio> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1624320   *UGH*
[04:10]  * genio hates 
[04:12] <Ojitos> YankDownUnder: so i need to activate the desktop efects from gnome ?
[04:16] <YankDownUnder> Ojitos, If you're running the Cinnamon desktop, you'll have to dig into that. If you're using the Gnome-shell/Gnome 3.22 desktop, you're going to have to read-up on how compiz integrates with Gnome 3.22, matey...but it's compiz that is the "engine" that accomplishes all the "cube" and other desktop effects...
[04:18] <Ojitos> let me check if i can run the effects in cinnamon desktop
[04:20] <YankDownUnder> Ojitos, For me, I ended up having "issues" with effects in Cinnamon. FOR ME. Others might not...but it didn't suit my requirements and I just ditched it. (Lack of maturity in the project code + support, etc.)
[04:33] <Ojitos> i will check
[04:33] <Ojitos> i got to go to sleep
[04:33] <Ojitos> have a great night
[04:35] <Kexoni> hi, I made record in /etc/fstab and it crashed Ubuntu
[04:36] <Kexoni> is there any way I can edit this file or repair?
[04:38] <krytarik> Kexoni: Using a Live medium for this would be one way.
[04:40] <wyseguy> I have a dell inspiron 15-7559 and looking to install ubuntu on it. I see people are having a lot of issues with the new versions of ubuntu
[04:41] <wyseguy> I found this though... thoughts? https://certification.ubuntu.com/hardware/201508-19027/
[04:42] <wyseguy> but when i look on dell's website, I dont see any pre installed os download options for ubuntu
[04:42] <YankDownUnder> Questions to ask oneself prior to installation: * Is my graphics card supported well? * Are my devices supported well? * Is my wifi/network card supported well? * Should I install an LTS version or an interim version?
[04:44] <YankDownUnder> Test the machine with an LTS liveUSB - make sure everything works. If so, then move towards installation. If you're game - and don't mind headaches and troubleshooting, you can always try the "latest and greatest" - LTS, however, is probably the best option...
[04:44] <wyseguy> YankDownUnder: thanks, but should i look for the os download from dell? cant seem to find it
[04:45] <wyseguy> did find this too: https://connorkuehl.github.io/dell-inspiron-7559-linux-guide/index.html
[04:45] <YankDownUnder> wyseguy, Since Dell fired me for cannibalising my co-workers, I can't rightly say... ;)
[04:47] <wyseguy> seems like an unlikely reason to be fired, you should go on strike
[04:48] <YankDownUnder> wyseguy, They did tell me to "enjoy" my co-workers...heheheheh....JOKING...meanwhile, if there isn't an "official" Dell ISO, again, you can always give it a shot with like the 16.0.4.2 LTS liveUSB to see if all yer bits and bobs work...ya know...graphics, network/wifi, internal hardward...side mirrors...transmission...brakes...
[04:49] <wyseguy> YankDownUnder: ya, i hear ya, i just figured dell would have an iso as it says pre-installed by manufacturer
[04:50] <Intee> Hey guys, is it possible to run a script (Python in this case) that requires user input on run but then push it back to another shell?
[04:50] <YankDownUnder> wyseguy, In all actuality, they probably DO - but they either bury it somewhere on the site far from public eyes, or make it only available to OEM's...
[04:50] <Intee> I have tried "& python script.py" and "(python script.py &)"
[04:51] <Intee> Second one actually runs the script but obv doesn't allow for user input.
[04:51] <Intee> Someone did suggest nohup but unsure about that.
[04:51] <lotuspsychje> !python | Intee
[04:52] <Intee> Would this be a python question though? :\
[04:52] <Intee> Wouldn't the same thing happen if I tried doing it with a .sh that require used input?
[04:52] <wyseguy> YankDownUnder: wonder if there is some easier way to find it from them
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> Intee: im just widening your options mate, cant harm to try the #python channel aswell
[04:53] <Intee> Roger that :)
[04:53] <Intee> Thanks lotuspsychje :)
[04:53] <krytarik> ..Or in #bash
[04:53] <Intee> Yeah, going to try bash next :P
[04:53] <jushur> Intee: tmux
[04:53] <Intee> Someone said nohup or tmux yeah :P
[04:54] <krytarik> wyseguy: Why not just get it directly from  https://www.ubuntu.com/download ?
[04:58] <YankDownUnder> wyseguy, Is it safe to assume that you've very nicely crafted an email to the Dell support folks asking?
[04:59] <wyseguy> YankDownUnder: nope, they are all dead or half eaten
[04:59] <wyseguy> ill email, then 10 mins later i figure it out, then my email is on a list and spam starts
[05:00] <YankDownUnder> wyseguy, Ah...yeah...forgot about that bit...
[05:02] <YankDownUnder> wyseguy, Closest thing I've found... => https://certification.ubuntu.com/hardware/201605-22331/
[05:04] <wyseguy> ya, i found that too, plus i see that the dell 7559 is in the list twice, but it doesent say 15-7559, just 7559...
[05:04] <wyseguy> but same hardware that is in this laptop
[05:05] <wyseguy> YankDownUnder: http://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/04/SLN301761/how-to-use-the-dell-hosted-recovery-image-of-linux?lang=EN
[05:05] <wyseguy> found that but no dl link
[05:06] <YankDownUnder> wyseguy, Email might resolve that...(nicely worded, with lots of "please" and "thank you" added)
[05:07] <wyseguy> :)
[05:07] <wyseguy> ill find it :)
[05:15] <wyseguy> YankDownUnder: i have a skylake cpu. 14.04 does not work with skylake
[05:15] <wyseguy> so a dell inspiron 7559 and 15-7559 must be different
[05:15] <jushur> wyseguy: that is actually not entirely true, it just needs a new kernel
[05:15] <wyseguy> but on ubuntu's site, it says pre-installed by maunfacturer.. weird
[05:15] <wyseguy> jushur: hey
[05:16] <Mr_Pan> wyseguy: Update to 16.04 is a good idea
[05:16] <wyseguy> Mr_Pan: looking for the dell provided iso of ubuntu
[05:18] <Mr_Pan> wyseguy: http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/software-os/f/3525/t/19703035
[05:18] <Mr_Pan> U dont wait a dell ISO...
[05:19] <Mr_Pan> Dell laptop are Linux compliano
[05:19] <wyseguy> okay, so i found this this then Mr_Pan
[05:20] <wyseguy> Mr_Pan: https://connorkuehl.github.io/dell-inspiron-7559-linux-guide/index.html
[05:20] <wyseguy> looks like some issues are there but most things seem to work
[05:24] <wyseguy> Mr_Pan: what do you think..
[05:24] <Mr_Pan> wyseguy:  mi officemate have a Dell precisione with no Dell kubuntu 16.04 Installation. He have Dell repos Asses only
[05:24] <Mr_Pan> Added..
[05:24] <wyseguy> Mr_Pan: i would like a dell xps 13 or 15 dev edition
[05:24] <wyseguy> would be nice :)
[05:24] <wyseguy> yeah, that's what i have seen, just repos have been added
[05:25] <Mr_Pan> Xps 13 super mobility laptop
[05:25] <Kexoni> I solved /etc/fstab in recovery mode, no need for live version :)
[05:25] <krytarik> \o/
[05:26] <wyseguy> Mr_Pan: ya I am an it guy, in the field and data center a lot, but work with vmware a lot, so 2 things.. screen size might be an issue as vcenter like a lot of space on the screen to see everything, but with that high res it might be okay.. and no eth port :/
[05:26] <wyseguy> IT*
[05:31] <wyseguy> hm, the dell xps 13 and 15 dev editions get mixed reviews
[05:32] <wyseguy> looking for a solid laptop, not huge, eth port, linux pre-installed or fully functional with all hardware for linux, high res, 14 or 15"
[05:35] <Mr_Pan> wyseguy: dell precision
[05:35] <wyseguy> Mr_Pan: not pocket breaking lol
[05:36] <Mr_Pan> Other thinkpad x1 or L Series
[05:36] <Mr_Pan> Other thinkpad T Series
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> wyseguy: any laptop can run ubuntu just fine, why do you want it preinstalled?
[05:38] <Mr_Pan> I use fujitsu s936 at this Moment with xubuntu 17.04 + win 10 vom
[05:38] <Mr_Pan> Vom
[05:38] <Mr_Pan> Vm
[05:38] <Mr_Pan> Ufff
[05:38] <wyseguy> lotuspsychje: does not have to be preinstalled, but need it to work 100% without hardware issues, like where it wont sleep, touchpad issues, and so on
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> wyseguy: all depends on the chipsets/model of laptop
[05:40] <wyseguy> lotuspsychje: right, looking for one :)
[05:41] <jhijkl> test
[05:41] <Mr_Pan> Dell thinkpad  and fujitsu Works 100% with linux (ubuntu). Direct expierence
[05:41] <Mr_Pan> jhijkl: test
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> Mr_Pan: thats dangerous to generalize, every machine is different
[05:42] <jhijkl> I'm on another channel and can't send anything
[05:42] <jhijkl> Was just checking to see it wasn't universal
[05:42] <pravin> hello, I have kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu 17.04, how do I switch between display managers
[05:43] <Mr_Pan> lotuspsychje: ok... i User Linux in 3 differenti thinkpad Model ...
[05:43] <EriC^^> pravin: which display manager do you want to use
[05:43] <Mr_Pan> lotuspsychje: sorry Handy Keyboard...
[05:44] <EriC^^> pravin: sudo dpkg-reconfigure <display manager>
[05:44] <wyseguy> Mr_Pan: do you have issues with your palms hitting the extra mouse buttons when typing?
[05:44] <pravin> EriC^^ i currnty on default display manager in ubuntu 17.04
[05:44] <EriC^^> pravin: ubuntu or kubuntu?
[05:44] <EriC^^> oh nevermind
[05:44] <pravin> ubuntu
[05:44] <EriC^^> you want the kubuntu one?
[05:44] <pravin> yes
[05:44] <Mr_Pan> wyseguy: no..
[05:45] <EriC^^> pravin: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[05:45] <pravin> I installed kubuntu-desktop with "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[05:45] <Mr_Pan> wyseguy: i Wrote from mi Handy with Herman Keyboard and italian t9
[05:45] <wyseguy> Mr_Pan: do you have a fav thinkpad model that is fast and semi current gen?
[05:46] <wyseguy> its for IT use, but i like snappy-ness
[05:46] <pravin> EriC^^: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm is not working
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> wyseguy: perhaps use the #ubuntu-discuss channel for that
[05:46] <Mr_Pan> T440/450
[05:46] <EriC^^> pravin: what's it saying?
[05:48] <wyseguy> Mr_Pan: what are your few reasons for those models? just curious
[05:48] <pravin> EriC^^: https://pastebin.com/FhDKVWsH
[05:49] <wyseguy> Mr_Pan: also, neither are full hd.. 1920/1080
[05:55] <psychoticwarrior> hey ladies and gentlemen
[05:59] <Speed_> https://github.com/jp9000/obs-studio/wiki/Install-Instructions#linux-build-directions
[05:59] <Speed_> i tried following these instructions
[05:59] <Speed_> and i dont know how to run it
[06:00] <Speed_> idk if i installed it correctly
[06:00] <Speed_> because i dont see it
[06:01] <Speed_> is there a way i can list all installed packages and see if its there?
[06:02] <kenrin> sudo dpkg -l
[06:03] <Speed_> seams like OBS-Studio isnt installed even tho i thought i just installed it
[06:04] <Speed_> wwhy must it be so anoying!
[06:04] <Speed_> https://hastebin.com/osaleqojed.sql
[06:04] <Speed_> install output
[06:05] <kenrin> Why are you not using the PPA?
[06:05] <Speed_> because its not in the instructions?
[06:06] <Speed_> im just following the instructions
[06:06] <kenrin> https://launchpad.net/~obsproject/+archive/ubuntu/obs-studio     Don't have to build anything
[06:07] <pravin> hello, I have kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu 17.04, how do I switch between display managers
[06:08] <Kyros> there is a selector on the login screen
[06:08] <pravin> no
[06:08] <Speed_> https://hastebin.com/iwixacibaj.sql
[06:08] <hateball> pravin: did you set sddm as login manager when you installed kubuntu-desktop?
[06:09] <pravin> i guess
[06:09] <pravin> there was a selection option at the time of installation
[06:09] <Speed_> @kenrin 404
[06:10] <pravin> I thought it could be changed later so I didn't check
[06:10] <akik> pravin: sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm or sudo dpkg-reconfigure sddm
[06:12] <pravin> akik: I tried now, but selecting either is not taking me to kdm
[06:12] <Zombie> I have a question.
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> !ask | Zombie
[06:14] <pravin> akik: Is there any way to do the selection at the login screen
[06:14] <Zombie> I have an internal organization level CA. I need to have that CA Trusted by FireFox, Thunderbird, OwnCloud client and Pidgin.
[06:14] <akik> pravin: you can selet the desktop environment at the login screen
[06:14] <kenrin> Speed_ :  I think you need to install ffmpeg first,  the next isn't included past ubuntu 14
[06:15] <akik> pravin: i think kubuntu uses lightdm
[06:15] <pravin> akik: its not there
[06:15] <akik> pravin: maybe you need to install kdm separately
[06:15] <Speed_> i thought i did install it
[06:15] <Speed_> ill try again then
[06:16] <pravin> ok
[06:16] <hateball> akik: It does not
[06:16] <hateball> akik, pravin: Kubuntu uses SDDM
[06:17] <akik> oh ok it has changed then from 14.04 when kubuntu still uses lightdm
[06:17] <pravin> hateball: selecting sddm or lightdm has no difference
[06:17] <hateball> akik: Yep, it's sddm since Plasma 5.x
[06:18] <pravin> ah, life was so simple when there were just gdm and kdm
[06:18] <hateball> well you *can* use others, but sddm is designed for it
[06:18] <pravin> hateball: how do I switch to kde
[06:23] <akik> pravin: you can selet the desktop environment at the login screen
[06:54] <sebsebseb> hi
[06:59] <Zombie> I have an internal organization level CA. I need to have that CA Trusted by FireFox, Thunderbird, OwnCloud client and Pidgin.
[07:01] <IntelCore> a LAN
[07:02] <IntelCore> Zombie, is it on a lan?
[07:02] <Zombie> I can get Yes.
[07:02] <Zombie> Yes.
[07:05] <Speed_> same thing is happening
[07:07] <IntelCore> Zombie, CA on Lan is a set-up
[07:10] <IntelCore> Zombie, Cisco has wireless Locally Significant Certificate feature.
[07:10] <IntelCore> sets you up CA via wireless
[07:13] <IntelCore> Zombie,  - read ubuntu - https://askubuntu.com/questions/102326/how-install-ca-certificate-for-a-wireless-network
[07:14] <Zombie> I'm not talking about FreeRadius
[07:16] <IntelCore> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/certificates-and-security.html
[07:16] <IntelCore> k, no points not wireless..?
[07:16] <Speed_> https://hastebin.com/opulejajim.sql
[07:18] <IntelCore> Zombie, you use Openssl my 2nd link a try
[07:20] <IntelCore> Speed -- get ffmpeg from ffmpeg site
[07:21] <IntelCore> the files for a/v stuff was in restricted extras, but you have to get a few more files off the websites
[07:23] <IntelCore> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ffmpeg
[07:25] <IntelCore> i think tha link at launchpad is not correct
[07:26] <IntelCore> ppa.launchpad.net/kirillshkrogalev
[07:28] <IntelCore> i dont like a person from russia put a ppa on launchpad - for a package - you can find cleanly on source (with help)
[07:31] <IntelCore> You can update your system with unsupported packages from this untrusted PPA by adding
[07:31] <IntelCore> however you risk
[07:31] <IntelCore> ffmpeg.org - i think
[07:33] <vimar> Hi
[08:04] <tamj0rd2> I've been having a problem with ubuntu for a few months now. When I try to type into certain input boxes/fields, it doesn't work. Can anyone help/has anyone had this problem before?
[08:04] <tamj0rd2> e.g when I try to search for a file in nautilus, it will only let me search for 1 letter. If I type another letter, it'll replace the first letter
[08:04] <tamj0rd2> The problem seems to behave different in each application
[08:05] <tamj0rd2> I'm using version 16.04
[08:14] <YankDownUnder> tamj0rd2, Something to try - disable bluetooth, reboot, try again.
[08:35] <MaximB> hello, sorry for the question, but is anyone managed to Install Powershell on Ubuntu17.04? I see no package for this version, only the "run" file, but not install.
[08:35] <MaximB> I need it for Azure
[08:45] <akik> MaximB: the deb is at https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell
[08:45] <akik> MaximB: there's no 17.04 version but the older version probably works, try it
[08:47] <MaximB> akik: yes i know, but the old versions don't work. they compalin about missing package libicu55 which is not even in 7.04 repos
[08:47] <akik> MaximB: did you run "sudo apt-get -f install" after installing it?
[08:47] <akik> MaximB: oh i see
[08:48] <MaximB> i can try ingoring the deps, but not sure it's best practice
[08:48] <akik> !info libicu55 zesty
[08:48] <MaximB> yes i know :(
[08:48] <MaximB> but is there anything that replaces it?
[08:49] <akik> MaximB: askubuntu says that there's an appimage for powershell
[08:50] <akik> https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/blob/master/docs/installation/linux.md#linux-appimage
[08:50] <MaximB> yes i know that too, but it's not an instalation. it's a "run" file
[08:50] <MaximB> and I need to install addidional packages from powershell
[08:50] <akik> MaximB: you can't use it?
[08:50] <akik> well damn :(
[08:50] <MaximB> it runs ok, but it won't install any modules
[08:51] <MaximB> powershit
[08:51] <akik> !info libicu zesty
[08:51] <MaximB> :(
[08:51] <akik> !info libicu57 zesty
[08:51] <akik> maybe that?
[08:52] <MaximB> thanks, I'll try
[08:52] <akik> but the dependency won't be fulfilled, i don't know
[08:54] <rizhas> hi all
[08:54] <rizhas> need some help :)
[08:55] <rizhas> is some alive?
[08:56] <YankDownUnder> Ask the question.
[09:00] <rizhas> have some problem, after an update nvidia drivers bricsCAD stops opening, I see the program starting screen but after I chose open a file or just new, bricsCAD crashes... i belive its after nvidia update because yesterday every thing works perfectly
[09:02] <YankDownUnder> rizhas, Isn't there a configuration change that needs to happen with BricsCAD in order to work properly with the system graphics driver? I seem to recall that this was an issue on OS/X after an update...so I'm assuming it would be the same for linux...
[09:03] <rizhas> so what can i do to run BricsCAD ?
[09:03] <YankDownUnder> Firstly, read exactly what I wrote.
[09:05] <YankDownUnder> rizhas, Secondly read this: https://forum.bricsys.com/discussion/25166/ubuntu-update-breaks-bricscad-licensing
[09:08] <rizhas> thnks
[09:08] <rizhas> will try
[09:13] <ubuntulove> Hi I have set up to allow FTP in my UFW but when i try to connect with filezilla it wont let me? Any tips appreciated
[09:14] <ubuntulove> BRB
[09:15] <YankDownUnder> ubuntulove, port 21
[09:18] <aiena> is there a way to increase history in the main ubuntu shell the one you get on ubuntu servers for example where you use alt + page up to scroll
[09:20] <hateball> aiena: Edit ~/.bashrc and change HISTSIZE
[09:20] <aiena> ok
[09:20] <hateball> aiena: Set to -1 if you want unlimited (as per the man-page)
[09:23] <aiena> thanks
[09:23] <aiena> what the difference between HISTSIZE and HISTFILEZISE ?
[09:25] <jink> aiena: "man bash" will tell you.
[09:26] <aiena> ok
[09:26] <jink> aiena: SIZE is number of commands, FILESIZE is size of the file.
[09:26] <aiena> will look into it in a bit
[09:26] <jink> Lots of other stuff to see there. :)
[09:26] <aiena> I am guessing that 2000 is in bits so its like 2mb
[09:26] <soee> hi, when executing ls -sh how can i sort items by szie ?
[09:26] <hateball> That's not it, no
[09:26] <hateball> aiena: histsize is for ongoing session, filesize is for all sessions
[09:27] <aiena> yeah jink usually the only thing I tinker with is adding 'set -o vi' at the end
[09:27] <jink> soee: -S
[09:27] <aiena> i dont touch anything else and usually in gui terminals the terminal emulator keeps the buffer
[09:27] <aiena> but here there is no term emulator
[09:28] <jink> Buffer and history aren't the same thing.
[09:28] <hateball> jink: histfilesize is how much is saved after you close the session, it's not in bytes
[09:28] <jink> Buffer is how far you can scroll back, history is what commands you used.
[09:28] <hateball> so you can have a histsize of 50, and a histfilesize of 10, so only the last 10 commands you ran in the session will be saved for next time
[09:28] <jink> hateball: Ah, right. :)
[09:29] <jink> I set both to a million, here.
[09:29] <jink> And erasedups is on. :')
[09:29] <hateball> could just set to -1 for unlimited :p
[09:29] <jink> Anyway, like I said, it's in the manual.
[09:29] <aiena> jink:  So then I need th increase the buffer not hist
[09:30] <aiena> i want to scroll back up to see more stdin /stderr strings
[09:30] <YankDownUnder> million is too small, a trillion a bit too large.
[09:30] <jink> hateball: Yes, but you know how that goes.  When you least expect it, the disk is full when you exit.
[09:30] <soee> jink: thanks
[09:31] <YankDownUnder> Simplify all network sysadmin tasks by sending all stdin/stderr > /dev/null => Wow! No errors! Great job! (sarcasm)
[09:32] <aiena> lol good one
[09:33] <aiena> or pipe it to a file and then parse that file with your brain
[09:33] <aiena> add sufficient volume so it explodes with buzzing electricity
[09:33] <YankDownUnder> BOFH administration tactics.
[09:34] <aiena> BOFH ?
[09:34] <aiena> and read it with less
[09:34] <aiena> because less is more but more is less
[09:34] <YankDownUnder> "Bast*d Operator From Hell" - old term for sysops/netadmins/sysadmins/sysops
[09:34] <aiena> Ah
[09:35] <aiena> but more is also not less and less is also not more
[09:35] <aiena> :P
[09:35] <aiena> BOFH for sure
[09:35] <aiena> and both are true
[09:36] <aiena> though contradictory
[10:08] <vlt> Hello. Where can I find out what HP LaseJet printers/scanners work on Ubuntu? Is hplipopensource.com down for anyone else?
[10:09] <hateball> vlt: Seems down indeed
[10:09] <hateball> And that's your best bet
[10:09] <hateball> But usually the answer is "all of them"
[10:10] <vlt> hateball: Ok, thanks!
[10:11] <hateball> vlt: a rare few models need you to grab firmware for them using hp-firmware
[10:23] <nazarewk> how do i create my own service in ubuntu?
[10:23] <nazarewk> i've generated /etc/init.d/<script> from https://github.com/fhd/init-script-template
[10:23] <nazarewk> but ubuntu still doesn't see it in `service <script> status`
[10:24] <hateball> !systemd | nazarewk
[10:25] <nazarewk> oh, i'm on 14.04
[10:25] <nazarewk> thats where confusion comes from
[10:26] <nazarewk> i'm using systemd since like always on my own PC, but never figured out what is it that ubuntu uses
[10:26] <hateball> nazarewk: did you chmod +x your script?
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[10:28] <nazarewk> thanks
[10:28] <hateball> :D
[10:28] <troulouliou_dev> hi any dea why cinnamon intercept all FN keys ? i can't use the in vbox anymore
[10:28] <troulouliou_dev> https://askubuntu.com/questions/264401/why-is-cinnamon-blocking-function-keys-f1-12-arent-getting-to-the-terminal
[10:32] <larryni> morning all
[10:33] <larryni> I'm running a Ubuntu 14.04 LTSP server and recently had to replace the mobo. this messed up networking as it renamed the ethernet ports. I managed to sort it out and get them back to the way they were before.
[10:34] <larryni> It's a 2 NIC setup, I can connect to the router through the browser, but I can't access the Internet anymore. I can also ping local addresses, but no outside addresses/urls.
[10:35] <larryni> I guess I must have messed something up whilst tinkering after mobo replacement
[10:35] <larryni> The Interent definitely works as I have my laptop connected and listening to online radio on it.
[10:37] <larryni> The LTSP side looks to be ok as well as my thin clients boot successfully
[10:38] <cfhowlett> !server | larryni, perhaps the server channel?
[10:38] <larryni> I have a static IP set on eth0 to connect to router, and router also lists it in the connected devices list
[10:38] <larryni> It's a desktop setup, not server
[10:38] <cfhowlett> yes but LTSP IS a server ...
[10:38] <larryni> it just happens to run on a Proliant server ;o)
[10:39] <larryni> I was chatting with the LTSP dev on their channel and he thinks it's a networking issue
[10:39] <cfhowlett> well there is the #networking channel
[10:40] <larryni> ok, I'll check it out. thanks.
[10:45] <alesan> hello
[10:45] <alesan> how do I flash the ubuntu to a memori stick?
[10:45] <cfhowlett> !usb | alesan
[10:45] <alesan> ideally from the command line with dd
[10:46] <hateball> dd if=iso of=/dev/sdX
[10:46] <hateball> at its simplest
[10:46] <YankDownUnder> https://askubuntu.com/questions/372607/how-to-create-a-bootable-ubuntu-usb-flash-drive-from-terminal
[10:46] <alesan> hateball, so to the device, not the partition?
[10:46] <alesan> sdb, not sdb1 ?
[10:47] <akik> alesan: yes
[10:47] <alesan> OJ
[10:47] <akik> alesan: add bs=1024k to make it faster
[10:48] <akik> alesan: run sync after the dd command to flush the buffers
[10:48] <hateball> alesan: Yep
[10:49] <hateball> alesan: usually I do like so: dd status=progress bs=8M if=iso of=/dev/sdX
[10:49] <hateball> alesan: it needs to be to the device because it writes mbr
[10:50] <alesan> ok
[10:51] <Poirotti> hi. using a zenbook laptop. 'acpi' command is showing always 'Battery 0: Discharging, 84%, 10:05:04 remaining' no matter if plugged or not. in other words acpi thinks that the battery state doesn't change. i think it's something related to either pm-suspend or pm-hibernate which i have been trying a little bit. is this something common? any ideas how to fix it (other than draining the battery and re-calibrating it that way)?
[10:52] <Poirotti> 'trying' the pm-suspend/hibernate means that i've used them a couple of times without any other problem than this :)
[10:53] <Newbs123> can anyone give a tip on a best way to do raid 10 on ubuntu 16.04 lts server?
[10:54] <cfhowlett> !raid | Newbs123 check this out?
[10:54] <Newbs123> thanks
[11:03] <Haydz> I'm having issues with phpmyadmin on ubuntu 16.04 PHP7, my regular PHP scripts load fine, but phpmyadmin is shown in plain text, any ideas?
[11:13] <ubuntulove> Hi I have set up to allow FTP/Port 21 in my UFW but when i try to connect with filezilla it wont let me? Any tips appreciated
[11:16] <YankDownUnder> ubuntulove, http://developernote.com/2013/08/configuring-firewall-to-enable-ftp-ssh-and-http-on-ubuntu/
[11:17] <ubuntulove> YankDownUnder: Ok il try that immidetaly
[11:18] <ubuntulove> Well nvm that is exactly what I have done already :P
[11:20] <ikonia> ubuntulove: can you connect to the port
[11:22] <Poirotti> so no ideas what to do when battery state (showed by acpi) seems to have stuck to the same value no matter if plugged or not?
[11:22] <Poirotti> also 'upower -i /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/battery_BAT0' shows it like that
[11:26] <ubuntulove> Not sure how to check ikonia ? My filezilla says could not connect to server
[11:27] <ikonia> ubuntulove: is an ftp server actually listing on port 21 ?
[11:27] <ikonia> if so, use a tool (telnet or nc) to just connect to the port and see if it responds at all
[11:28] <ubuntulove> Thanks I will test, it says it allows it in iptables\ufw but il try with telnet
[11:28] <ikonia> iptables does not mean there is a service listening on that port
[11:30] <ubuntulove> ikonia: connection refused on that to
[11:30] <ikonia> ok - so either a.) there is nothing listening on that application port b.) the firewall is not open c.) there is another firewall that you are not aware of blocking it
[11:32] <Haydz> I'm having issues with phpmyadmin on ubuntu 16.04 PHP7, my regular PHP scripts load fine, but phpmyadmin is shown in plain text, any ideas?
[11:33] <ikonia> Haydz: probably an addtype handler missing in apache
[11:34] <Haydz> @ikonia, what would you recommend I google :)?
[11:38] <ubuntulove> Ok thanks ikonia, I think it cannot be another firewall because when I blocked SSH on the UFW i lost my VPS previously, so I will try to make FTP listen then
[11:42] <Haydz> I GOT IT WORKING :):) thank you so much @ikonia
[11:42] <Haydz> Added SetHandler application/x-httpd-php to the conf file
[11:42] <ubuntulove> Well done bloke
[11:45] <ubuntulove> lol
[11:45] <ubuntulove> ikonia: im retarded
[11:45] <ikonia> ubuntulove: there is no need for that
[11:45] <ubuntulove> No offense or anything i mean im facepalming
[11:45] <ubuntulove> I had not installed a FTP service L O L
[11:45] <ikonia> well, you're working now
[11:46] <ubuntulove> :)
[11:49] <ws2k3> fallentree ur around?
[11:52] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:52] <fallentree> ws2k3: yup
[11:55] <ubuntulove> Hmm need some more tips, using filezilla but it wont transfer my file due to no access even though i put chmod 777 on the folder
[12:05] <vimar> Is anybod
[12:05] <vimar> Is anybody using ICQ?  Not sure what application I could use.
[12:06] <kristhian> question, is there a way to downgrade my version of ubuntu?
[12:06] <SwedeMike> kristhian: downgrades are not supported.
[12:07] <kristhian> i see, ok
[12:07] <kristhian> i am currently having issues with npm, and i couldnt get support in the channel
[12:08] <bumblefuzz> hey, so, I just installed ubuntu on my new computer and I can't get my bluetooth to work
[12:09] <bumblefuzz> it let's me enable and disable it
[12:09] <appno_matt> Hey all - having some weirdness with apt-mark on 16.04. 'apt-mark hold <pkg>' works fine, but issuing another hold command overwrites the existing list. Is this by design?
[12:09] <bumblefuzz> but it says there are no adapters and I can't add a bluetooth device
[12:10] <fission6> how do PID ids work, i have a uwsgi process that restarts workings after 100 requests, each time my PID ids increment as expected but this can't happen indefinitely do they reset and start at a lower number at some point?
[12:13] <akik> fission6: they are re-used
[12:13] <appno_matt> @fission6 standard POSIX behavior is that they rollover / reset IIRC: the PID value is required to be unique
[12:13] <bumblefuzz> I can't set up a new bluetooth device because ubuntu says there are no adapters found
[12:14] <bumblefuzz> help?
[12:14] <appno_matt> bumblefuzz: what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[12:14] <akik> fission6: see /proc/sys/kernel/pid_max
[12:15] <appno_matt> ( 'cat /etc/issue' in terminal)
[12:15] <bumblefuzz> ubuntu mate 16.04.2
[12:15] <Fleuv> Hello, I have a problem with my sound driver or the software managing my sound output device. Strangely sometimes it is working, and sometimes it doesn't work and then I just can't get it working propperly again. This is what happens: the software doesn't detect my headphone from being plugged in, initially no output device produces any sound. However after changing INput device, the integrated speaker on my laptop is able to produce s
[12:15] <Fleuv> Some information http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=fbf1f7515a49816c3ba3bc84b20540cd52e41aae
[12:17] <bumblefuzz> appno_matt: 16.04.2
[12:17] <Fleuv> *My goal is to have my headphones work probably as well
[12:18] <fission6> appno_matt thanks!
[12:19] <appno_matt> bumblefuzz: Got it, cheers :] have a look at this, specifically the second answer, editing the bluetooth conf file, then try to restart the service (sudo service bluetooth restart): https://askubuntu.com/questions/787023/bluetooth-not-working-on-ubuntu-16-04-lts/808114#808114
[12:19] <appno_matt> fission6: akik beat me to it ;]
[12:22] <appno_matt> Confirmed strange behaviour in apt-mark when holding: new hold commands zero existing held package info. This seems... off.
[12:23] <appno_matt> (16.04 LTS)
[12:27] <fission6> appno_matt ok so i shouldn't be concerned if i have something restarting and creating new PIDs (application server after 100 requests per worker)
[12:28] <appno_matt> fission6: not unless you've gone crazy and only allocated 99 PIDs for your system ;] default config should be fine. No need to worry.
[12:28] <fission6> ya i think we are good too
[12:28] <fission6> thanks appno_matt
[12:29] <bumblefuzz> hi, I can't connect my bluetooth mouse to my computer
[12:29] <bumblefuzz> ubuntu says there are no bluetooth adapters
[12:29] <appno_matt> bumblefuzz: I replied to you earlier, did you get that message before you disconnected?
[12:30] <bumblefuzz> appno_matt: yep, I did that
[12:30] <bumblefuzz> it didn't work
[12:31] <appno_matt> :[ I'll see if I can come up with anything else, having a 'mare of my own at the mo too. Will let you know if I dig anything up
[12:35] <Fleuv> Please help me solve this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/921073/generally-no-sound-output-over-headphone-jack
[12:48] <whoami1> is ubuntu is releasing its next version in default gnome env?
[12:48] <bumblefuzz> can anyone help with my bluetooth issues?
[12:48] <bumblefuzz> it says I have no adapters
[12:49] <whoami1> your ubuntu is not supporting your bluetooth
[12:49] <whoami1> am facing the same issue
[12:49] <ikonia> whoami1: the next LTS version will be based on the gnome
[12:50] <whoami1> when I install ubuntu 14.04 LTS the bluetooth gets enable...
[12:50] <ikonia> the next non-lts version will help that transition (I'm unsure if it will include any unity components, I'd expect it to contain full unity env)
[12:51] <whoami1> which one ?
[12:51] <whoami1> ikonia: 17 ?
[12:54] <bumblefuzz> why ubuntu, why?
[12:54] <bumblefuzz> why you no bluetooth?
[12:55] <whoami1> I don't know the exact reason but am facing the same problem
[12:55] <aiena> bumblefuzz: proably you need to install some bluetooth package like bluez
[12:55] <aiena> bumblefuzz:  also maybe you need a kernel driver for that specific chipset
[12:56] <aiena> you need to look at what hardware it is
[12:56] <annihilator> in 17.04 how do i add flash player?  i can only find info on y14
[12:56] <whoami1> but how is working on 14.04 lTS
[12:56] <aiena> sometimes you may just need to tweak a udev rule to get the device supported
[12:56] <aiena> annihilator:  to add a flash player download an install official chrome from google repositories (not chromium)
[12:56] <ikonia> whoami1: 18.04 will be the next long term release I believe
[12:57] <aiena> to get support for proprietary technology use proprietary browsers
[12:57] <aiena> also chrome bundles the other stuff too like encryption services etc that some sites need to operate
[12:57] <whoami1> aiena: in store Bluetooth Adapter name package is working
[12:58] <aiena> these cannot be included in a distribution because of licensing and other issues
[12:58] <annihilator> thanks
[12:58] <aiena> whoami1:  are you bumblefuzz
[12:58] <whoami1> nope
[12:58] <whoami1> i was facing same issue
[12:59] <aiena> hmm could be many reasons
[12:59] <aiena> different kernel newer packages device not in udev
[13:00] <aiena> packages missing hich were there by default in ubuntu 14
[13:00] <aiena> whoami1:  did you try installing bluez ?
[13:00] <aiena> sometimes even the DE mask things
[13:00] <tamj0rd2> YankDownUnder it looks like bluetooth is already turned off. I don't have an adapter plugged in
[13:00] <whoami1> aiena: nope
[13:00] <aiena> ok try installing that package
[13:00] <whoami1> aiena:I have installed bluetooth adapter next of that bluez
[13:01] <aiena> try this blueman app too
[13:01] <aiena> see if it shows your adapter
[13:02] <aiena> does your adapter list in lsusb ?
[13:02] <whoami1> nope its not listed
[13:02] <whoami1> there
[13:03] <bumblefuzz> aiena: so, what's the bluetooth fix?
[13:03] <whoami1> bluez is the fix
[13:03] <bumblefuzz> sudo apt install bluez
[13:03] <bumblefuzz> ?
[13:03] <whoami1> goto the store
[13:03] <whoami1> and search of bluez
[13:03] <aiena> yay atleast that worked for you
[13:04] <whoami1> yess
[13:04] <aiena> otherwise I was going to suggest you do some more deeper digging e.g. I written this article a while ago http://linulicious.blogspot.in/2014/11/adding-rules-for-mtp-and-getting-your.html
[13:04] <aiena> its for opensuse but it is more deeper udev messing
[13:05] <aiena> dont do it unless you absolutely need to
[13:05] <bumblefuzz> mine says it's already installde
[13:05] <aiena> also its for KDE not unity
[13:05] <aiena> bumblefuzz:  on your system it may be a different reason all together you need to do some digging
[13:05] <bumblefuzz> such as?
[13:05] <aiena> what is your adapter model ?
[13:05] <aiena> what is lsusb output
[13:05] <aiena> do you know the adapter chipset inside
[13:06] <bumblefuzz> ummm...
[13:06] <bumblefuzz> I have a lenovo x270
[13:06] <bumblefuzz> bluetooth 4.1
[13:07] <aiena> so its an internal bluetooth tihng
[13:07] <aiena> not a dongle
[13:07] <aiena> *thing
[13:07] <bumblefuzz> yep
[13:07] <bumblefuzz> lsusb output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24737324/
[13:07] <aiena> then show me output of lspci
[13:08] <aiena> not promising I can help will try though
[13:08] <aiena> sometimes in linux the headless chicken needs to run in the dark untill it finds its head
[13:09] <bumblefuzz> aiena http://paste.ubuntu.com/24737326/
[13:09] <aiena> bumblefuzz:  its not listed there is there a hardware bluetooth switch ?
[13:09] <aiena> on your laptop is it on
[13:10] <bumblefuzz> not that I'm aware of
[13:10] <aiena> or you need to turn on/off bluetooth with function keys ?
[13:10] <aiena> E.g. fn + something
[13:10] <bumblefuzz> oh there is one
[13:10] <bumblefuzz> one sec
[13:10] <aiena> tada
[13:10] <whoami1> :D
[13:11] <bumblefuzz> it doesn't seem to do anything
[13:11] <aiena> bumblefuzz:  show me the lspci output after you toggle it
[13:11] <bumblefuzz> or, if it does, I can't tell
[13:11] <aiena> look for differences
[13:11] <bumblefuzz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24737353/
[13:12] <bumblefuzz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24737355/
[13:13] <aiena> can you show me output of 'less  /etc/bluetooth/main.conf'
[13:13] <bumblefuzz> aiena: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24737371/
[13:14] <whoami1> aiena: I think bumblefuzz should run hciconfig
[13:14] <aiena> bumblefuzz:  can you uncomment the last line '#AutoEnable=true' should be made 'AutoEnable=true'
[13:14] <aiena> then reboot and get back here
[13:15] <aiena> whoami1:  possibly too
[13:15] <bumblefuzz> brb
[13:18] <bumblefuzz> aiena: back
[13:18] <aiena> and lspci o/p
[13:19] <bumblefuzz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24737459/
[13:21] <aiena> hmm doesnt seem to make a difference
[13:21] <aiena> can you see your bluetooth device now
[13:22] <whoami1> no he can't
[13:22] <bumblefuzz> lol
[13:22] <whoami1> because he is in lapi
[13:22] <bumblefuzz> nope
[13:22] <bumblefuzz> what's lapi?
[13:22] <aiena> let whoami1 guide you
[13:22] <whoami1> laptop = lapi
[13:22] <aiena> I dont know what is going on
[13:23] <aiena> please recomment what i told you to comment for now
[13:23] <aiena> *uncomment
[13:23] <bumblefuzz> okay
[13:23] <aiena> since that didnt really solve it
[13:23] <bumblefuzz> done
[13:23] <bumblefuzz> whoami1: what's going on?
[13:24] <whoami1> did you try hciconfig?
[13:24] <aiena> bumblefuzz:  can you run 'dmesg | grep Blue' as root and see if any line with the workd "Bluetooth" show
[13:24] <aiena> *word
[13:25] <bumblefuzz> aiena: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24737484/
[13:25] <bumblefuzz> and whoami1 what do you want me to input?
[13:26] <whoami1> enter hciconfig if its shows hci0 then you can use bluetooth
[13:27] <bumblefuzz> whoami1: yeah it shows hci0
[13:27] <whoami1> then "hciconfig hci0 up"
[13:27] <aiena> bumblefuzz:  then try all the stuff from here https://askubuntu.com/questions/787023/bluetooth-not-working-on-ubuntu-16-04-lts
[13:28] <whoami1> get a blank prmt?
[13:28] <bumblefuzz> ummm...all the stuff??
[13:28] <whoami1> which?
[13:30] <whoami1> what you get?
[13:31] <bumblefuzz> I have no idea what to do
[13:31] <whoami1> did you try hciconfig hci0 up?
[13:36] <whoami1> bumblefuzz: how you send highlight message
[13:39] <whoami1> help -l
[13:39] <bumblefuzz> what do you mean highlight message?
[13:40] <whoami1> like you send me a text of green color and mentioned my name
[13:42] <bumblefuzz> just autotab the name of the message recipient
[13:42] <bumblefuzz> I g2g
[13:42] <bumblefuzz> I'll be on later to figure this out
[13:42] <BluesKaj> whoami1,usually highlighting  it's a setting in your irc client notification options
[13:43] <whoami1> oo
[13:43] <whoami1> but how to do it?
[13:43] <BluesKaj> it's=is
[13:43] <whoami1> and you mention my alies?
[13:43] <BluesKaj> which irc client?
[13:44] <whoami1> you mention my alies in your first text
[13:44] <BluesKaj> not aliases
[13:44] <whoami1> how you done that?
[13:44] <whoami1> sorry
[13:45] <whoami1> whats it?
[13:51] <whoami1> hey
[13:52] <whoami1> hey high anbz
[13:53] <whoami1> high am55
[13:54] <BluesKaj> whoami1, not me, i did not mention aliases
[13:55] <Rob_Jones> Hey guys not a ubuntu specific question but im looking for a new development machine for my web coding and wanting to wipe windows and put ubuntu on it, as far as the specs go what do you reckon for the price?
[13:55] <Rob_Jones> http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-pavilion-15-au153sa-15-6-laptop-gold-10156900-pdt.html
[13:56] <BluesKaj> anyway that's immaterial , hexchat surely has a highlight setting , you should google it or look thru settings and/or options
[13:56] <BluesKaj> whoami1,^
[13:56] <whoami1> yes
[13:56] <whoami1> what are the parameter that needed to set in the settings
[13:57] <BluesKaj> I don't use hexchat. so I'm not sure
[13:57] <whoami1> then what you use?
[13:59] <BluesKaj> Rob_Jones, specs are more than enough for ubuntu
[14:00] <BluesKaj> whoami1, I use kde/plasma DE which includes irc client Konversation
[14:01] <Rob_Jones> only thing i was worried about Kaj was the storage but if it comes to it i have a 2tb external hard drive
[14:02] <Southern_Gentlem> Rob_Jones, most linux distros have a live iso that you can try before you install to see if your hardware is supported out of the box
[14:03] <BluesKaj> Rob_Jones, assume you're familiar with some linux distros ?
[14:04] <Rob_Jones> yep I was planning on using ubuntu with a gnome desktop environment
[14:04] <Rob_Jones> it seems to make sense as we use kubuntu in university
[14:04] <Rob_Jones> tried linux mint before but it just wasn't for me
[14:05] <Southern_Gentlem> whoami1, settings preferences alerts nicknames to always highlight
[14:06] <whoami1> but what to right in that field?
[14:06] <Southern_Gentlem> your nick
[14:07] <Southern_Gentlem> or any nicks you want highlighted
[14:07] <whoami1> ok get it
[14:07] <Southern_Gentlem> also see the hexchat documentation
[14:07] <whoami1> Southern_Gentlem thanks
[14:07] <whoami1> but its not working
[14:08] <Southern_Gentlem> it will the next time you run the program
[14:09] <BluesKaj> gnome desktop is quite different than kde/plasma (Kubuntu) , Rob_Jones
[14:09] <Rob_Jones> i know
 i phone it would works
[14:09] <Rob_Jones> i use gnome atm
[14:10] <Rob_Jones> for me its just cleaner
[14:10] <Rob_Jones> less cluttered
[14:10] <Southern_Gentlem> different strokes for different folks
[14:16] <BluesKaj> one can make the kde/plasma DEclean and as uncluttered as one wants , that the great thing about kde, it's so flexible
[14:30] <whoami1> hey
[15:00] <musician_pro> omg anyone here?
[15:00] <musician_pro> I make a BIG mistake
[15:00] <musician_pro> i tap this comand on terminal
[15:01] <musician_pro> sudo mv /* /home/name/folder
[15:01] <musician_pro> now I have all the system folder in to another folder
[15:01] <musician_pro> I can't open a terminal!
[15:01] <BluesKaj> musician_pro, please state your issue on one line without using the enter key every 5 words
[15:02] <musician_pro> omg......I don't know what happen now! Sorry...I really scared! What I did? What happen if I reboot?
[15:03] <BluesKaj> musician_pro, ctl+alt+f2 login then use the command to move it back
[15:03] <musician_pro> what is the command?
[15:03] <nacc> musician_pro: was anything else in that folder before?
[15:04] <BluesKaj> then ctl+alt+F7 to get back to the desktop
[15:04] <nacc> BluesKaj: depending on their answer, there may not be a trivial command to move things back
[15:04] <karvas> Hello, I am trying to unwrap my ecryptfs-passphrase from inside a live cd (using ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase) but it fails. My homefolder is on a seperate partition. Any idea what might be wrong? I'm sure that I enter the correct user password
[15:04] <musician_pro> yes
[15:04] <musician_pro> but nothing very important
[15:05] <BluesKaj> nacc, looks like he moved all folders from / (root) to his /home dir
[15:05] <musician_pro> ok maybe I understand......I press ctrl+alt+f2 and than I can use terminal? I can remove folders on the root?
[15:05] <musician_pro> exactly!
[15:05] <nacc> BluesKaj: i read it as some directory under ~
[15:05] <nacc> musician_pro: directly under /home/user or under /home/user/anotherdir ?
[15:06] <musician_pro> nacc, anotherdir
[15:06] <musician_pro> in fact some folders from root stay on root
[15:06] <musician_pro> not all the folder are moved!
[15:06] <nacc> musician_pro: and did anotherdir have any other contents before the mv?
[15:07] <BluesKaj> nacc, sudo mv /* /home/name/folder
[15:07] <musician_pro> yes!
[15:07] <ppf> is there a way to ssh from remote directly into a docker container?
[15:07] <nacc> musician_pro: ok, do you know what was in anotherdir before hand?
[15:07] <musician_pro> yes!!
[15:08] <nacc> musician_pro: ok, then mv all those items in anotherdir beforehand to somewhere else (backing them up). Then run `sudo mv /home/user/anotherdir/* /` I think
[15:08] <musician_pro> I can't open terminal!
[15:09] <BluesKaj> nacc, think we're talking about the same thing :-)
[15:09] <nacc> musician_pro: oh, actually, you might need to boot into a recovery system -- you probably mv'd /usr and /bin
[15:09] <musician_pro> BluesKaj, if I press ctl+alt+f2 what append?
[15:10] <BluesKaj> but I defer ..since I'm a bit shakey on the / root  requirments
[15:10] <nacc> BluesKaj: yeah :)
[15:10] <nacc> BluesKaj: i was just thinking they don't want to blind mv back, since what was in anotherdir will now be in /
[15:10] <LordChaos> musician_pro, you probably need a bootable USB stick to recover your system
[15:10] <nacc> BluesKaj: but also, they've messed with PATH (indirectly)
[15:11] <BluesKaj> nacc, right , think I understand
[15:11] <musician_pro> ;(
[15:12] <musician_pro> where is the terminale in the system folders?
[15:12] <falgra> is there any reason 10 6 * * 0 [ "$(date '+\%a')" = "Sun" ] && root python /opt/run-apt-security-updates.py > /dev/null 2>&1
[15:12] <BluesKaj> musician_pro, I'd like to why you did that..what id you think that would accomplish?
[15:12] <falgra> would throw a bad username error
[15:12] <falgra> ?
[15:13] <BluesKaj> know
[15:13] <LordChaos> falgra, 'root python' ?
[15:14] <falgra> python is the interpreter
[15:14] <musician_pro> I need to mv all files in subfolders to one folders
[15:14] <BluesKaj> from root?
[15:14] <musician_pro> no I equivoce
[15:14] <falgra> yes it's a cron.d
[15:15] <LordChaos> falgra, I am aware of that. What's the root command?
[15:15] <nacc> falgra: because that is syntactically incorrect
[15:15] <nacc> falgra: you can't specify a user after &&
[15:15] <musician_pro> where I can find a terminal on the systems folder?
[15:15] <nacc> falgra: re-read the manpage
[15:16] <nacc> musician_pro: your question doesn't make sense
[15:16] <falgra> so if I move the user before && it would be correct?
[15:16] <musician_pro> ok nacc is terminal a file?
[15:16] <nacc> musician_pro: just drop to a login prompt as BluesKaj told you
[15:16] <nacc> musician_pro: as you've moved critical files, most programs won't work
[15:17] <nacc> musician_pro: your best bet to fix it, is to use a recovery usb
[15:17] <musician_pro> ok I'm scared :(((
[15:17] <cfhowlett> get past that.  this is entirely fixable.
[15:17] <nacc> falgra: why are you manually checking for sunday?
[15:17] <nacc> falgra: it's part of the crontab syntax to check for day
[15:18] <LordChaos> musician_pro, you need to reboot with a USB stick, mount your partitions manually and fix your environment
[15:19] <falgra> nacc: because I want to ensure that it runs only on Sunday's
[15:20] <musician_pro> ok if I click ctrl alt F2 I can't write anything :/
[15:20] <BluesKaj> yes after you login and enter your ped
[15:20] <BluesKaj> pwd
[15:20] <tgm4883> falgra: then tell crontab to only run it on sunday
[15:21] <LordChaos> falgra, 10 6 * * 0 is always on a Sunday?
[15:21] <falgra> tgm4883, it didn't work simply by doing 10 6 * * 0
[15:21] <cfhowlett> musician_pro, because we are past that now.  1. find a USB  2.  download the ubuntu .iso.  3. create an ubuntu boot USB.   4.  boot you computer from the USB. 5.  mount your partitions.  6.  fix your environment.
[15:21] <falgra> it ran every day
[15:21] <boze> I formatted and upgraded to 16.04 and windows 10. Windows 10 doesn't show up in grub any more though. What does that likly indicate? I messed up the windows install?
[15:21] <musician_pro> thank you cfhowlett
[15:22] <cfhowlett> boze, did you install windows after installing ubuntu?
[15:22] <cfhowlett> happy2help! musician_pro
[15:22] <musician_pro> thank you everybody :(
[15:22] <karvas> Can anyone help me with ecryptfs please? "Unwrapping passphrase failed [-5]"
[15:22] <BluesKaj> boze, sudo os-prober then sudo update-grub
[15:22] <tgm4883> falgra: I'd be surprised if that was broken since cron is a well used item, but I'd need to see some logging and testing to see what was going on
[15:23] <ppf> karvas: anything in /var/log/syslog about this?
[15:24] <falgra> tgm4883 it was interpreting run every day AND Sunday, not only Sunday, so I changed it to this, and now recently it stopped working with that error in the logs
[15:24] <boze> cfhowlett, I can't quite remember which one I installed first. It was a few months ago. I remember I was able to boot into windows through the bios, but that doesn't seem to work any more.
[15:24] <karvas> ppf: yes, it says incorrect wrapping key
[15:24] <cfhowlett> boze, as suggested by BluesKaj:  sudo os-prober && sudo update-grub
[15:25] <ppf> karvas: can you paste?
[15:25] <ppf> what ubuntu is this?
[15:25] <boze> BluesKaj, I ran those and see several linux images found when updating grub. I don't see any mentions of windows though. Would it show up there?
[15:25] <ppf> karvas: and of course the default question, what did you do?
[15:26] <tgm4883> falgra: I find that interesting, but back to your issue, why are you specifying root as the username? That surely won't work or isn't needed
[15:26] <ppf> karvas: also: ls -alhF /home/.ecryptfs/$USER/.ecryptfs/wrapped-passphase
[15:26] <BluesKaj> boze, I think it should if grub is installed in the uefi boot ..or am I mistaken, I'm uefi guru
[15:26] <BluesKaj> no uefi
[15:27] <ppf> falgra: the username is the first entry after the time
[15:27] <karvas> ppf: this is on a second laptop with no network connection, i need some time to paste it here
[15:27] <pfifo> Hi I cant seem to unzip the latest files from amd... https://paste.ubuntu.com/24738445/ does anyone know whats going on here? I think my xz-utils are working properly, but it such an uncommon format i cant say for sure
[15:27] <ppf> in your case "[", which is kinda wrong
[15:27] <falgra> tgm4883: because before it wouldn't run without it
[15:28] <karvas> ppf: I startet a live cd because the system does not boot anymore - and I mounted the filesystem to unwrap the mount password (which I lost)
[15:28] <falgra> this is in a cron.d file
[15:28] <ppf> karvas: you don't know your login password anymore?
[15:29] <ppf> falgra: yeah. check the manpage for a full spec. the username goes first
[15:29] <musician_pro> cfhowlett, LordChaos BluesKaj I see just now that the mv command duplicate some folders....I think I can't mv the folders in to the root merging with the same directory like first...this is right? ;(
[15:29] <tgm4883> falgra: what version of ubuntu is this
[15:29] <pfifo> maybe i should boot into windows, thy prolly made that file with winrar or something and its doing something unsupported
[15:29] <ppf> tgm4883: it's a cron.d, not a users crontab
[15:29] <ppf> *user's
[15:30] <karvas> ppf: I know the login password, but I lost the 128-bit random decryption key for ecrypt (which is wrapped in wrapped_passphrase)
[15:30] <musician_pro> maybe the terminal can't move every files so he duplicate folders to move the files he can move
[15:30] <falgra> tgm4882: 14.04
[15:30] <ppf> okay
[15:31] <karvas> ppf: If I try to unwrap it (using the command ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase) it says wrong key. Maybe it is using the wrong salt or anything? or it depends on the user logged in - i tried it with root from the liveCD and I tried to create a user with the same name I used on the system
[15:31] <BluesKaj> musician_pro, I'm not sure , can't answer that
[15:35] <BugeyeD> hi all. what exactly is required for docker to be run inside lxc (managed by lxd)? i'm failing on ubuntu 1704 ...
[15:36] <BugeyeD> looking for a howto if available, assuming i'm just missing the appropriate documentation somehow. no love so far in #lxcontainers so i'm back here.
[15:37] <akik> BugeyeD: i don't know why you would do that but you could get some pointers from the docker in docker project
[15:37] <akik> the lxc is already a container
[15:39] <BugeyeD> akik: better insulation to prevent polluting host os. ubuntu appears to applaud nesting these things, and i got the idea from the ubuntu reps at the latest openstack convention
[15:39] <ducasse> BugeyeD: have you also asked in #ubuntu-server?
[15:39] <BugeyeD> ducasse: i have not - wasn't aware of that channel. thanks for pointing that out!
[15:39] <nacc> BugeyeD: you are already *not* in the host OS once you are using lxc/lxd
[15:40] <nacc> BugeyeD: so the 'insulation' argument seems non-sensical
[15:41] <BugeyeD> nacc: except that docker stuff would be in the host os filesystem ... running docker inside lxc/lxd would keep docker stuff separated a bit
[15:42] <musician_pro> very good...
[15:42] <BugeyeD> nacc: i get what you're saying though. just trying to run through and test the options, see where i land
[15:42] <musician_pro> I can't reboot to
[15:42] <musician_pro> ok
[15:42] <akik> BugeyeD: http://andrea.corbellini.name/2016/04/13/docker-swarm-inside-lxc/
[15:42] <musician_pro> I will go...hope to hear you SOON and stay another time in this channel. Thank you all
[15:45] <BugeyeD> akik: this is probably all i was missing: Before starting the LXC container, open the file /var/lib/lxc/swarm-manager/config on the host and add the following configuration to the bottom of the file ...
[15:45] <BugeyeD> the different howtos i'd found previously pointed me to different locations, so i was likely just missing the step without realizing it
[15:50] <schahermacher> how to change calendar settings that appears right next to clock in the right upper part of the screen to  little-endian (day, month, year), e.g. 22.04.96 or 22/04/96 or 22 April 1996?
[15:51] <akik> BugeyeD: with that setup, when you open a port from the docker to the host, the host is actually the lxc container?
[15:52] <BugeyeD> akik: yes, i suppose so
[15:54] <BugeyeD> i'm new to docker; my primary virt platform is smartos, where lxc is akin to solaris zones - and basically nothing is done in the global zone (host os)
[15:54] <BugeyeD> just trying to feel my way around
[16:01] <cwre> is there a better way to restart networking without actually using the networking.service.
[16:05] <BluesKaj> cwre, there used to be a command, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart , dunno if it's still supported by systemd
[16:06] <cwre> Pretty sure it just does the same as networking.service.
[16:06] <cwre> I'm wondering if there is something that doesn't use a deprecated utility like ifup ifdown.
[16:06] <BluesKaj> cwre,  well it seemed to work here , but i don't use NM
[16:07] <tgm4883> cwre: what problem are you trying to fix
[16:07] <akik> cwre: ifup/ifdown is not deprecated
[16:07] <cwre> one second
[16:08] <boze> I'm trying to get windows 10 to show up in grub. I tried os-prober, now I'm trying boot-repair. It says to make a boot partition, but don't I already have one? http://imgur.com/a/s5tRe
[16:08] <boze> I remember bricking my system several times messing with this in the past
[16:08] <czesmir> exit
[16:11] <BluesKaj> boze, you don't have a windows/ntfs partition there
[16:13] <boze> BluesKaj, I think windows is on this HD http://imgur.com/a/qVB81
[16:13] <musician_pro> Hi everyone! I adjust my computer problem!
[16:13] <musician_pro> thank you firends!
[16:13] <musician_pro> <3 <3 <3
[16:14] <boze> BluesKaj, boot-repair is saying make one >1MB, unformatted filesystem, bios_grub flag. Think it matters what HD I put it on as long as I flag it?
[16:16] <BluesKaj> boze, afaik the uefi boot partition is supposed have grub installed to it ., but I'm not familiar with the procesdure to do that. maybe someone else with that expertise can help , nacc , tgm4883, akik ?
[16:18] <kaili> Hello. I copied thousands of files and folders from a Mac OS partition to my ubuntu partition. Many files have irregulars characters (terminal shows ? but it's characters like ▒ which are block elements of various kind) and it's a mess
[16:18] <kaili> Most of them seems to be characters with accents éèàâê, etc
[16:19] <kaili> Any simple but safe command I can use to solve that issue please ?
[16:19] <BluesKaj> boot repair seems not work very well witn more than one drive in the mix, boze ..i had a problem with it the last time I tried it
[16:20] <ppf> compiling something with g++ gives me  "c++: error trying to exec 'cc1plus': execvp: No such file or directory"
[16:20] <akik> boze: do you have a mbr setup or uefi setup? in my only machine with uefi, grub finds the win10 installation without problems
[16:20] <DarkPsydeLord> kaili, install all the unicodes?
[16:21] <ppf> what am i doing wrong?
[16:21] <dabba> I had an issue with grub finding a windows partition with uefi, but I believe it was more related to the fact the disks in the machine were in raid
[16:22] <BluesKaj> dabba, yeah, that's probly it
[16:22] <kaili> DarkPsydeLord: install what package ?
[16:22] <boze> akik, uefi rings a bell and I know that's preferable. Do you know how to check? I looked through the bios and didn't see anything there. I see EFI on my ubuntu hard drive and it boots fine to 16.04 and grub comes up.
[16:22] <boze> akik, http://imgur.com/a/s5tRe
[16:23] <akik> boze: if you have a /boot/efi with files then it's uefi
[16:23] <boze> ya, definitely have that
[16:23] <boze> I tried sudo grub-install /dev/sdc1 too
[16:24] <akik> boze: you ask why grub doesn't find your win10? i don't see a windows partition. is it on another disk?
[16:24] <kaili> I think I need a command to replace all charactesr with accents by charactesr without accent
[16:24] <dabba> boze: that looks like a NTFS partition but usually windows 10 has a boot partition also
[16:24] <boze> akik, Yes, I have 5 HD's i think it's this one http://imgur.com/a/qVB81
[16:25] <theseb> How Configure Suspend/Sleep?  (I want to use pm-suspend when Suspend is selected with MOUSE)
[16:25] <BluesKaj> boze, did you sudoi grub install /dev/sdb1 ?
[16:25] <BluesKaj> sudo
[16:26] <bore00> hello guys im having issues with LAMP , and it seems i cant remove it properly because the problems persist even after reinstalling it. I did reinstall it few times already
[16:26] <BluesKaj> correction sudo grub-install /dev/sdb1 bore00
[16:26] <BluesKaj> boze,rather ^
[16:26] <dabba> boze: if this is a fresh install of ubuntu, i'm betting it stepped on the windows boot partition when finalizing install, if it didn't see windows during the install. you should have a windows efi boot partition in addition to NTFS I believe
[16:26] <BluesKaj> too many bo's in here
[16:26] <bore00> :/
[16:27] <DarkPsydeLord> kaili, try with ttf-ancient-fonts
[16:27] <DarkPsydeLord>  or fonts-symbola
[16:29] <boze> dabba, hm, so I need a windows boot partition and one for grub?
[16:29] <dabba> pretty much, not room for both on the one efi partition
[16:30] <akik> /boot/efi can be used for both windows and linux
[16:30] <dabba> http://imgur.com/a/OqBUU
[16:30] <BluesKaj> griub should see both drives
[16:30] <dabba> if your windows disk doesn't have the efi partition, and ubuntu didn't recognize that windows was there in the install, it'll use the existing efi for grub
[16:31] <kaili> DarkPsydeLord: just went for install ttf* :p
[16:33] <DarkPsydeLord> kaili, o well that will fix the missing áé stuff
[16:33] <boze> I'm fine with blowing away the windows install, but I really need ubuntu as it is for work. Think I can get windows to dual boot without bricking ubuntu as it is now?
[16:33] <akik> boze: when you installed that windows, did it then use uefi?
[16:33] <boze> akik, I believe so, but like y'all said I probably forced the issue some how to get ubuntu to boot
[16:34] <BluesKaj> boze, sudo os-prober /dev/sdc
[16:34] <boze> BluesKaj, thanks. There's no output when I run that though
[16:34] <dabba> boze: out of curiosity, is that partition flagged for boot?
[16:35] <akik> there's an option to use /etc/grub.d/40_custom when you know how to manually boot a disk
[16:35] <vlt> Hello. How can I lock the screen when my Ubuntu desktop (16.04) is running inside a vnc session initiated by xrdp's session manager?
[16:35] <dabba> sdc1
[16:35] <BluesKaj> boze, maybe df -h shows the windows partition as a different /dev/sdX
[16:35] <boze> dabba, nope :( sdc http://imgur.com/a/qVB81    sdb http://imgur.com/a/s5tRe
[16:37] <kaili> DarkPsydeLord: not working
[16:38] <boze> BluesKaj, does that command give an output when its found something? http://imgur.com/a/KcbXO
[16:39] <dabba> boze: if you have separate disks, you may want to disable your ubuntu disk (in bios or whatever means), install windows fresh, boot back into ubuntu and then use os-prober
[16:39] <dabba> for sure windows install will not play nice with the existing ubuntu, so I'd prevent that by temporarily disabling the hdd ubuntu is on
[16:40] <r3muxd> Is there a DE that allows you to disable and lock down some parts of it? I'm trying to set up Ubuntu for a family member who's not very knowledgeable about computers.
[16:40] <boze> dabba, not sure I can disable it. I'll try unplugging it :)
[16:40] <r3muxd> (The reason I want to setup Ubuntu is because Windows keeps getting messed up.)
[16:40] <dabba> lol thats the easy way, boze :)
[16:41] <dabba> in bios you can tell the machine which disk to boot from first, after windows is on the 2nd disk make sure its pointed at ubuntu's disk and you should be able to update grub to see both OS's
[16:42] <BluesKaj> boze,  perhaps setting up the boot sequnce in the uefi/bios , seems windows has a bootloader altho it's probly legacy mode , you mightry making it first in the boot order
[16:43] <kaili> Any idea what is causing that : http://i.imgur.com/bWqy2Fj.jpg
[16:43] <kaili> And how to solve it ? :/
[16:44] <kaili> file copied from mac os to ext4 ubuntu partition
[16:44] <boze> BluesKaj, I tried booting off that HD directly in bios. I think I may have borked the boot partition like y'all said.
[16:44] <raynold> ahh it's a wonderful day
[16:45] <boze> I'm going to unplug ubuntu and try and redo windows. I really really really hope I don't brick it. wish me luck!
[16:45] <boze> tyvm BluesKaj, akik, and dabba!
[16:45] <BluesKaj> boze, good luck:-)
[16:45] <dabba> good luck, let us know how it works out :)
[16:49] <kaili> I even have filenames with dozens of space like : "[5space]Association 14 Assas[4space]"
[16:53] <ash_workz> can you the size on print `du -BG` without the suffix?
[16:54] <ash_workz> or would I have to use `bc`?
[16:54] <akik> ash_workz: ask once again, with a bit more clarity
[16:54] <ash_workz> erm
[16:55] <ash_workz> `du -s -BG /san/postgresql/pg_xlog/` yields: 15G	/san/postgresql/pg_xlog/ -- is there a way to just print 15 (or at least 15 as the first field?)
[16:56] <vlt> kaili: You plugged an ext4 formatted device into a Mac OS machine and copied the files? What has happened? What should it look like?
[16:56] <akik> ash_workz: don't use the -B option?
[16:56] <ash_workz> akik: that'll print bytes though
[16:57] <kaili> vlt: no I copied the files to a fat32 external hard disk, then back to the ext4 partition
[16:57] <akik> ash_workz: if you use "du -k" it'll print kilobytes
[16:57] <kaili> mac can't read ext4
[16:58] <ash_workz> akik: yeah and -m will do mega, but I was still hoping for giga
[16:58] <ObrienDave> -g
[16:58] <arooni> anyone here using calendar-indicator?  on 16.04 i can see the events from my google calendar but the times are wrong
[16:58] <ash_workz> ObrienDave: not supported
[16:59] <ash_workz> oddly, the man says "-m     like --block-size=1M" yet sub the command for that does not yield the same numeric result
[17:00] <ObrienDave> because HDs and suck report multiples of 1000 not 1024
[17:00] <ObrienDave> *such
[17:00] <theseb> How change what happens when you select "Suspend" from GUI?
[17:01] <akik> ash_workz: i'm not sure if this is what you want :) du -s --block-size=1073741824
[17:01] <vlt> kaili: Do the file names (shown by Ubuntu) on the fat32 file system differ from those shown on the ext4 system?
[17:02] <ash_workz> akik: yes! awesome. thanks
[17:02] <akik> :)
[17:02] <kaili> vlt: no idea, it's been a long time. Now I only have the file on the ext4 partition
[17:04] <kaili> Looking at : for i in $(find .); do echo "mv $i $(echo $i | tr "àçéèêëîïôöùüÂÇÉÈÊËÎÏÔÖÙÜ" "aceeeeiioouuACEEEEIIOOUU")"; done
[17:04] <kaili> But the results are weird
[17:04] <kaili> Don't feel safe to run it
[17:12] <OneM_Number2> So. I have a Genius Tablet Mousepen 8x6 that I'm trying to get working on ubuntu 16.10. Anyone have any suggestions?
[17:12] <theseb> How change what happens when you select "Suspend" from GUI?
[17:15] <Naddiseo> Could someone help me find a work around for https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1692437 ?
[17:16] <Naddiseo> I haven't messed around with xorg config for a number of years, now I can't get it to work
[17:17] <kaili> Okay, I think my problem is here
[17:17] <kaili> Filename charset=binary
[17:17] <kaili> "application/octet-stream; charset=binary"
[17:19] <kaili> I think file command doesn't even regognize the format
[17:21] <kaili> I think it seriously fucked, all files shows binary
[17:34] <ws2k3> fallentree is irqbalance default installed on 16.04?
[17:35] <bumblefuzz> I'm unable to connect anything to my bluetooth
[17:35] <bumblefuzz> ubuntu actually tells me that I have no bluetooth adapter
[17:36] <bumblefuzz> I'm a bit of a noob
[17:36] <bumblefuzz> but I know how to pastebin stuff
[17:36] <sayan_> still you are messing bluetooth?
[17:37] <bumblefuzz> sayan_: yes
[17:37] <bumblefuzz> still
[17:38] <sayan_> last time you got a lot of fix
[17:38] <bumblefuzz> any help
[17:38] <bumblefuzz> ?
[17:38] <bumblefuzz> mmm...no, I didn't
[17:38] <dlam> is there a way to set the default permissions of some log files?  i have a django webapp and it writes its application logs to /srv/logs/ ...and i wanna default them to 666 perms
[17:38] <johnfg> hi folks
[17:39] <johnfg> I'm running a new installation of server 16.04 and am going to install awesome wm.
[17:39] <sayan_> dlam, try "sudo visudo " in terminal
[17:39] <johnfg> In the article I'm reading about it, it recommends installing the ppa for it, to get the latest.  Is that a good idea?
[17:39] <sayan_> dlam, and register your user as root and i hope it will work
[17:40] <sayan_> bumblefuzz, which one you are using?
[17:41] <bekks> dlam: for default permissions, younee to configure your django application properly.
[17:41] <arooni> i set up my google account with online accounts and yet i cant see my calendar entries in the calendar app.. ideas?  thanks
[17:41] <bekks> dlam: Ubuntu just sets the permissions which the django application tells to set.
[17:42] <johnfg> Or, any recommendations for reading how to best to install and configure awesome wm?
[17:42] <fallentree> ws2k3: afaik yes, it's part of ubuntu-standard package recommended additions
[17:42] <theseb> How change what happens when you select "Suspend" from GUI?
[17:42] <bumblefuzz> sayan_: which what am I using
[17:42] <bumblefuzz> ??
[17:42] <fallentree> ws2k3: not strictly needed, but it's recommended on smp systems and doesn't hurt on non-smp ones
[17:45] <ws2k3> fallentree im running into an issue. im sending around 200 k pps to my ubuntu 16.04 vm. and ksoftirqd immidiatly jumps to 100 % and the machine gets realy slow what can this be?
[17:47] <sayan_> bumblefuzz, which version of ubuntu you are using?
[17:51] <fallentree> ws2k3: 200k pps is not a small feat. as the rule of thumb is cca 1Hz per 1bit of network traffic to handle tcp stack, that's 200 kHz of CPU required if each packet had 1 bit, but it doesn't, it has a minimum of 40-ish bytes, so do the math :)
[17:52] <bumblefuzz> sayan 16.04.2
[17:52] <ppf> how can i nicely persist an xinput setting?
[17:54] <fallentree> ws2k3: in comparison, many budget hosting providers would ask you to leave if you had that much pps per IP as it messes up their routing designs and 200k may trigger DDoS detection systems.
[17:56] <ws2k3> fallentree yeah i know. but its internal traffic. not over the internet
[17:57] <fallentree> ws2k3: it still takes noticeable amount of cpu time to process, especially if you have iptable filters that have to process each packet.
[17:57] <codepython777> does anyone know of a docking station for intel nuc Nuc5i7RYH using thunderbolt that will work with ubuntu?
[17:57] <ws2k3> fallentree i dont have any iptable rules
[17:58] <fallentree> ws2k3: also it's a VM so there's no network card hardware to offload, say, checksum calculations, so the impact is even more visible
[18:01] <fallentree> ws2k3: how much MBps does that traffic yield? if you'd only shuffle tcp headers that'd be around 8MB/s. With a payload of 10 bytes, that's 80MB/s, quite a lot to process.
[18:01] <fallentree> 100 bytes I mean
[18:02] <daum> hi guys - i'm upgrading a server from ubuntu 14 to 16 and it seems my /boot ran out of space during the upgrade.  I haven't rebooted and at the final part of the upgrade where it shows https://pastebin.com/qE5h9nYC what is the best next steps clear out the boot and make sure the images/kernsl get generated properly
[18:04] <popey> daum: apt-get autoremove
[18:05] <popey> daum: or, if you want to do it manually. dpkg -l "linux-image-*", and then remove a couple of the oldest ones with "apt-get remove --purge linux-image-generic...." whatever the version is
[18:07] <daum> ok thanks - just found out that somehow the main partition to is dead...this will be a cluster
[18:07] <jvelasquez> I have some process that modifies my file,  /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libm-2.24.so, changing it from a 1+MB binary into a 186byte text file.  and afterward many programs complain during dlopen about an invalid ELF in the libm.so file.   Any ideas what would be doing this?
[18:08] <nacc> jvelasquez: nothing ubuntu ships would do anything like that
[18:08] <jvelasquez> happens about 2 minutes after boot
[18:09] <nacc> jvelasquez: so when you first boot libm is fine?
[18:09] <fallentree> jvelasquez: put a chattr +i on it and watch what will crash or complain :)
[18:09] <jvelasquez> I copy a backup into it's location, and reboot, and after 2 min, it's back to a text file.
[18:10] <jvelasquez> fallentree, thanks. I'll look into that.
[18:10] <jvelasquez> nacc,  https://github.com/node-ffi/node-ffi/pull/5
[18:10] <fallentree> jvelasquez: did you check the contents of it, if it's a text file?
[18:10] <jvelasquez> nacc,  my libm will look like theres.
[18:10] <jvelasquez> fallentree, yes.  it looks like,  https://github.com/node-ffi/node-ffi/pull/5
[18:12] <jvelasquez> I was going to setup a syscall firewall to filter for syscall's that modify that file, and then write a plugin to pause the offending process.
[18:12] <pravin> hello there, how do I edit a .conf file. All I get is this error https://paste.ubuntu.com/24739791/
[18:14] <fallentree> jvelasquez: a syscall firewall?
[18:14] <bumblefuzz> can someone help me figure out why my bluetooth says there's no adapter
[18:14] <bumblefuzz> ?
[18:14] <jvelasquez> fallentree,  https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/prctl/seccomp_filter.txt
[18:14] <lotuspsychje> !bluetooth | bumblefuzz
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> !info blueman | bumblefuzz try also this
[18:15] <someone_> Hi
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> someone_: welcome, how can we help you?
[18:16] <fallentree> pravin: those are just warnings from gedit, output on stdout. does running it as sudo otherwise work? it opens the file and can save it?
[18:16] <someone_> I have problem with network in JWM , I'm using KUbuntu 16.04
[18:17] <fallentree> jvelasquez: I know what seccomp is, but how do you set up a general "syscall firewall"? seccomp rules are set by individual binaries for their own process, or by systemd for something it starts
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> someone_: ask your issue in channel, are you up to date to 16.04.2?
[18:17] <pravin> fallentree: its happening while saving the changes.
[18:17] <someone_> lotuspsychje yes
[18:17] <pravin> fallentree: also changes aren't being saved
[18:17] <fallentree> pravin: I wouldn't worry about it. if you run GUI stuff from command line, you'll always see some complaining and logging on stdout
[18:18] <pravin> fallentree: i don't know how to use vim
[18:18] <fallentree> pravin: well, I don't know about running gedit as sudo. but you can always use nano from the command line. exit with Ctrl-X and it will ask whether to save the file, hit yes.
[18:18] <someone_> the problem in JWM , It does not connect to the Internet
[18:18] <fallentree> pravin: then try nano
[18:18] <pravin> fallentree: i'll try nano
[18:19] <lotuspsychje> pravin: for GUI packages use gksu instead of sudo
[18:19] <pravin> lotuspsychje ok
[18:21] <lotuspsychje> pravin: perhaps tell us your real issue also? your editing the conf file why?
[18:21] <someone_> How I can connect to the internet in Jeo windows manager  (JWM)?
[18:23] <pravin> lotuspsychje: I am trying to run canon scanner in ubuntu, saw a tutorial and I am trying to follow that
[18:23] <fallentree> someone_: I have no idea what JWM is, but if it's a window manager, then I suppose you do it as with any other WM, using a network manager or some other tool.
[18:23] <fallentree> someone_: s/a network manager/the NetworkManager/
[18:24] <someone_> fallentree this is #JWM
[18:24] <fallentree> pravin: did you first try running "Simple Scan" program, maybe it all autodetects?
[18:24] <senaa> hello help me please
[18:24] <lotuspsychje> !ask | senaa
[18:24] <senaa> why i can not installation ubuntu
[18:24] <fallentree> someone_: I don't know what that means, sorry
[18:24] <senaa> my ubuntu stack
[18:25] <pravin> fallentree: autodetect didnt work
[18:25] <senaa> stack on logo ubuntu
[18:25] <lotuspsychje> pravin: i think 17.04 has new printer recognize system now
[18:25] <someone_>  Ok , thanks
[18:26] <pravin> lotuspsychje: printer is working alright, just not the scanner
[18:26] <senaa> this is my problem installation http://prntscr.com/ferq1w
[18:26] <senaa> stack
[18:27] <fallentree> pravin: did you see this?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SANE%20-%20Installing%20a%20scanner%20that%20isn%27t%20auto-detected
[18:27] <senaa> and then http://prntscr.com/ferqex
[18:28] <pravin> fallentree: this is for usb scanner, what I have is a network scanner
[18:29] <fallentree> senaa: what hardware are you installing ubuntu on?
[18:29] <senaa> @fallentree my laptop hp-15ba004ax amd a10  vga amd r5
[18:30] <fallentree> pravin: oh. well, from what I'm reading here, you "just" need to add the scanner IP to /etc/sane.d/net.conf: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo#Sharing_a_Scanner_Over_a_Network
[18:30] <fallentree> pravin: oh wait, that's for saned server
[18:31] <fallentree> senaa: try temporarily disabling ACPI:   https://askubuntu.com/questions/160036/how-do-i-disable-acpi-when-booting
[18:32] <pravin> is there a way to find if my printer/scanner is supported in ubuntu
[18:32] <senaa> fallentree thank you for reference
[18:33] <pravin> its a canin iR3230
[18:33] <theseb>  How change what happens when you select "Suspend" from GUI? (I want to only use pm-suspend)
[18:33] <pravin> *canon
[18:35] <fallentree> pravin: maybe ask google?  https://www.google.com/search?q=Ubuntu+scanner+canon+iR323
[18:36] <fallentree> senaa: so if that fixes it and you can boot, you can maybe make it permanent, by adding acpi=off into the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="" string in /etc/default/grub (edit it with sudo nano /etc/default, and then run `sudo update-grub`), or maybe try that Boot repair on that page (I don't know what that is).
[18:36] <pravin> fallentree:I came here after unsuccessful search on google
[18:36] <fallentree> senaa: but then I don't know what effect it'll have to disable ACPI except maybe loss of power management and related things
[18:36] <lotuspsychje> fallentree: lets not suggest google here
[18:37] <fallentree> pravin: well, I'm sorry, usb scanners are the limit of my knowledge about using (x)sane :)
[18:37] <senaa> fallentree before I tried set nouveau.modest=0
[18:37] <pravin> fallentree:thanks all the same
[18:38] <fallentree> senaa: modest or modeset? did you typo here or in the kernel command line too?
[18:39] <fallentree> senaa: should be nouveau.modeset
[18:39] <fallentree> still, not sure if that'd fix it, those were ACPI errors
[18:39] <fallentree> acpi is known to have bad apples :)
[18:40] <senaa> fallentree modeset
[18:40] <akik> rather than disabling acpi, it could be more beneficial to get the value for acpi_osi for that machine
[18:40] <senaa> sorry typo
[18:42] <senaa> if this works, Should I change as early ?
[18:55] <johnfg> If I install awesome wm on server 16.04, will that pull in X or do I have to specifically install it?
[18:58] <johnfg> Actually, it looks like it will pull in x, but no a dm.
[18:58] <johnfg> s/not/no/
[18:59] <mikeymop> i understand you can use DD to do a bit by bit copy to a .img file in another location
[19:00] <mikeymop> consider this, I have a bootable usb drive to install an operating system. I dd the contents to a .img on my computer, could I simply name it .iso so that rufus.exe would recognize it?
[19:00] <mikeymop> additionally, could I skip rufus? I figure i could DD it back to the drive by doing the reverse
[19:01] <mikeymop> if I did the reverse from an 8gib drive to a 16gib drive, how would I handle that?
[19:03] <senaa> fallentree: hi
[19:03] <vlt> mikeymop: The larger drive will work just fine.
[19:03] <vlt> mikeymop: If you want you can increase the partition size(s) after dd’ing.
[19:03] <senaa> what next ? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/HJVn3Wo2/S70602-020417.jpg
[19:08] <fallentree> senaa: I don't know, what are you trying to do? the acpi=off setting is on the kernel line of your installed ubuntu, where you said you set nouvau.nomodeset
[19:08] <senaa> @fallentree: yes acpi off
[19:09] <senaa> fallentree: i want to try set acpi=off
[19:13] <auser_> hello guys, i accidently ran sudo rm -rf and all my server got wiped
[19:13] <auser_> is that a way to backup the data ?
[19:14] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | auser_ photorec
[19:15] <lotuspsychje> auser_: if photorec cant recover, data is gone
[19:15] <mikeymop> vlt: and if the partition on the larger drive was the full size of the drive?
[19:15] <mikeymop> i might be over thinking, but I would guess that if I dd'd the contents of the 8gb to the 16 i would lose the other half of the drive
[19:17] <IntelCore> msn.com - open poll.. 53% oppose pulling away from Paris
[19:17] <lotuspsychje> IntelCore: not here
[19:17] <vlt> mikeymop: I covered that in my previous sentence :-D
[19:17] <IntelCore> ooppp wrong chan
[19:17] <fallentree> senaa: so you don't need the installer for that, just press and hold shift while your installed ubuntu is booting, that will get you to the grub menu
[19:17] <mikeymop> vlt: awe, so i would have to repartition
[19:17] <mikeymop> ok thank you
[19:18] <mikeymop> have you dont this before? I am also wondering about the boot flags? Id experiment, but when I do this, it's going to be a one chance situation
[19:19] <senaa> fallentree: i'm sorry , my problem is when i installing ubuntu.. after i click ubuntu
[19:19] <vlt> mikeymop: I’ve done that many times with different images: ubuntu, debian, grml.org ...
[19:20] <senaa> stack https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/RfmUn0hK/S70602-243821%281%29.jpg
[19:20] <senaa> i've tried all iso linux
[19:22] <fallentree> senaa: same thing, hold down the shift key while the usb installer is booting (at least I think that should work)
[19:22] <arooni> is there anyway to get my google calendar events in my dropdown for calendar appontments ?
[19:23] <arooni> i.e. the date& time indicator
[19:24] <senaa> fallentree: I've tried but cannot show
[19:26] <fallentree> senaa: do you get a purple screen asking to select language when you boot the USB iso?
[19:28] <senaa> fallentree: just up here after click install ubuntu via dvd rw
[19:28] <senaa> huhu
[19:28] <senaa> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/LG1lDf9D/S70602-243821%281%29.jpg
[19:30] <fallentree> senaa: on that menu where it says "Install Ubuntu", select that entry with the arrow keys then hit the e key to edit the grub menu entry, you can add acpi=off to the kernel line and boot that with F10
[19:30] <fallentree> senaa: so that boots the installer with acpi=off
[19:30] <senaa> ok i will try
[19:31] <fallentree> senaa: and when this screen appears, the Ubuntu logo with 5 progress dots, you can hit ESC to see the booting output
[19:32] <senaa> just like this ? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Zm86D7JL/P70602-023337.jpg
[19:33] <fallentree> senaa: no, move the cursor to the line that starts with "linux /casper/vmlinuz.efi" and add acpi=off to the end of it (the end key will throw the cursor to the end of the line)
[19:36] <senaa> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/5qHywmYm/P70602-023657.jpg
[19:36] <senaa> using space ?
[19:37] <fallentree> senaa: yes after splash add acpi=off (remove those ---), so it reads    quiet splash acpi=off
[19:38] <senaa> oh no i forgot remove splash ok ok i will try it
[19:38] <senaa> remoe ---
[19:38] <senaa> remove
[19:38] <transhuman> Hi! using Ubuntu 16.04 getting this error http://paste.debian.net/959008/ I think wx... is too new anyone have a fix?
[19:39] <fallentree> senaa: if you remove "quiet splash" then it won't show that purple screen with ubuntu logo, but straight the kernel booting log output, so you can see if there are any other errors
[19:39] <fallentree> senaa: or hit ESC like I said, does the same thing
[19:43] <senaa>  oh no zzz https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/5ggkcqIj/irccloudcapture1404717643.jpg
[19:44] <fallentree> senaa: ata errors, that sounds like failed hard drive
[19:45] <senaa> my drive sshd
[19:45] <lotuspsychje> transhuman: perhaps tell to the channel what you tryed to do exactly?
[19:45] <fallentree> senaa: ssd can fail too :)
[19:45] <senaa> huhu
[19:45] <fallentree> senaa: it could also be a disloged sata cable
[19:46] <lotuspsychje> senaa: wich ssd? singleboot or dualboot?
[19:46] <senaa> singleboot
[19:46] <senaa> previos I finish install win 10
[19:46] <lotuspsychje> senaa: you have fastboot and secureboot disabled?
[19:46] <transhuman> trying to compile lsnes which is an emulator
[19:47] <senaa> lotuspsychje: secureboot disabled
[19:47] <lotuspsychje> transhuman: what kind of emulator you looking for? perhaps something in the repos you can use?
[19:48] <transhuman> http://tasvideos.org/Lsnes.html
[19:48] <transhuman> its for Mari0 (AI)
[19:48] <senaa> I have this laptop previously install windows 10 smoothly
[19:48] <YankDownUnder> "ATA" + "failed to identify" sounds very much like one should check the cable firstly...the BIOS configuration secondly, the actual drive(s) health after that...doesn't smell good.
[19:49] <senaa> this is my bios https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/zxqp3BkW/P70530-123742.jpg
[19:49] <genii> transhuman: Those are all source code for Windows
[19:50] <genii> !info zsnes
[19:50] <transhuman> supposedly it runs in Linux
[19:51] <transhuman> thanks I will look at that but the package comes with the warning not to use any other emulator
[19:51] <YankDownUnder> senaa, Do you get the same errors when booting with a liveUSB?
[19:51] <lotuspsychje> transhuman: what kind of package would that be?
[19:52] <senaa> yes same error usb and dvd
[19:52] <senaa> all iso linux
[19:52] <lotuspsychje> senaa: if you can install windows, it must work on ubuntu also
[19:53] <lotuspsychje> senaa: <hat brand of ssd is this?
[19:53] <senaa> but i tried install linux on virtual smoothly
[19:53] <lotuspsychje> senaa: and wich ubuntu versions did you try?
[19:53] <fallentree> lotuspsychje: unles the load of installing windows has brought up hardware issues that are manifesting now. seen it happen.
[19:53] <senaa> elementary os , ubuntu 16.04 , ubuntu 17.04
[19:54] <lotuspsychje> fallentree: i never seen a box yet, where i could not install ubuntu yet
[19:54] <transhuman> lotuspsychje, http://paste.debian.net/959016/
[19:54] <senaa> this laptop already installed win 10
[19:54] <fallentree> lotuspsychje: then you haven't been looking at old enough hardware yet :)
[19:54] <senaa> i will try reinstall win 10 again
[19:55] <YankDownUnder> ...it's an HP machine...have one here now...had to replace the RAM in it...was getting massive "disk" issues...was the RAM in the end...which is always something to consider - as MS Win is not as stringent on RAM addressing...
[19:55] <senaa> did i get same the error
[19:55] <lotuspsychje> senaa: you sure you got both fastboot & secureboot off?
[19:56] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | senaa
[19:56] <transhuman> lotuspsychje, so I am pretty sure the changes to the code of the emulator wont match up (even if they are close emulators) to get this code working
[19:57] <transhuman> so my only option then is to build an install with Ubuntu 12.04 or something unless I can back date this wx... package
[19:57] <senaa> lotuspsychje: my bios secure boot disabled
[19:58] <senaa> lotuspsychje: how to check fastboot ?
[19:59] <lotuspsychje> senaa: http://i.imgur.com/JAj5SxA.jpg
[20:00] <senaa> lotuspsychje: page not found
[20:00] <lotuspsychje> senaa: doublecheck all your bios lines, some systems also have an intel block for new Os also
[20:01] <lotuspsychje> transhuman: whats the packagename of that image you want to load in emulator?
[20:01] <senaa> lotuspsychje: send pict again your link not found
[20:01] <lotuspsychje> senaa: works here
[20:02] <senaa> not work here
[20:04] <senaa> lotuspsychje:  bios https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/iIxt1dBl/P70530-123742.jpg
[20:05] <senaa> my win 10 smoothly  https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Yit4fpOs/P70602-030609.jpg
[20:07] <lotuspsychje> senaa: is there an intel smart response technology line in your bios?
[20:09] <senaa> lotuspsychje: nothing .. my hardware proci amd a10 gpu amd r5
[20:09] <senaa> @lotuspsychje: ram 8
[20:09] <pakcjo> hello, is there a simple program that generates graphics or images to test xorg fbdev driver?
[20:10] <senaa>  i want to learn linux but....😪
[20:10] <lotuspsychje> senaa: what kind of ssd brand?
[20:11] <senaa> lotuspsychje: https://support.hp.com/us-en/product/hp-15-ba000-notebook-pc-series/10862317/document/c05201458
[20:11] <senaa> not ssd
[20:15] <bluewhitew> hi all :)
[20:16] <lotuspsychje> senaa: found a thread like yours: https://forums.techguy.org/threads/not-able-to-install-ubuntu-on-my-hp-15-notebook-pc.1171366/
[20:17] <senaa> lotuspsychje: ok thank you for help
[20:40] <Fleuv> Hey, how do I completely reinstall my sound card with an installation on uefi secure boot?
[20:42] <auser_> sudo rm -rf .bash* .config/ .profile cd /home/
[20:42] <auser_> so i ran this command by mistake and it wiped everything of my server...
[20:42] <nacc> auser_: who are you suggesting that to?
[20:42] <nacc> auser_: where did you run it? and why
[20:43] <auser_> i was trying to delete .bash .config .profile of some user
[20:43] <auser_> some user i have in my system
[20:44] <nacc> auser_: if that was the exact command you ran, it won't have deleted "everything"
[20:44] <auser_> i checked bash_history
[20:44] <auser_> and that was the last command used i guess
[20:45] <auser_> cd /home/ayo/
[20:45] <auser_> sudo rm -rf .bash* .config/ .profile
[20:45] <auser_> sudo rm -rf .bash* .config/ .profile cd /home/
[20:45] <auser_> ls
[20:46] <nacc> auser_: um, did you actually run the line two above?
[20:46] <nacc> auser_: 'sudo rm -rf .bash* .config/ .profile cd /home/'
[20:46] <auser_> is there some tool i can use to backup the files the same exact way they were ?
[20:46] <nacc> auser_: you just deleted all of /home
[20:46] <nacc> auser_: no, those files are gone now.
[20:47] <auser_> yup...
[20:47] <auser_> so photorec won't help?
[20:47] <nacc> auser_: well, you can try
[20:47] <nacc> auser_: but that's about it, if the disk has sync'd, depending on the disk, they may be gone
[20:47] <auser_> will it ever recover them the way they were as the exact folder and everything?
[20:48] <auser_> i tried it and it started recovering stuff but they all named some random letters
[20:50] <auser_> is there a tool you would recommend to use ?
[20:52] <nacc> auser_: no, i would consider it unrecoverable
[20:52] <auser_> hmmm wow
[20:52] <auser_> so what command should i use next time when deleting something?
[20:53] <nacc> auser_: not sudo, unless you need it, not -f, certainly
[20:53] <nacc> auser_: if you are using sudo, you *must* know exactly what command you are running, why, and how to undo if you care
[20:53] <nacc> auser_: you understand why the command you pasted above was 100% wrong, right?
[20:54] <auser_> i typed /home/ at the end..
[20:54] <auser_> but then cd shouldn't have given me an error maybe?
[20:55] <auser_> like sudo rm -rf .bash cd /home/ .. is that even a command ?
[20:55] <nacc> auser_: no, so you don't understand
[20:55] <nacc> auser_: everything after 'rm' was passed *to* rm
[20:55] <nacc> auser_: and since you passed -f, you told it to ignore errors and not be interactive
[20:56] <nacc> auser_: so you told it to `rm -rf .bash`, `rm -rf cd, `rm -rf /home/` all with root privilege
[20:56] <auser_> wow, thanks for the explanation ..
[20:56] <nacc> auser_: you should *never* have run that command, it makes no sense and would never have ben suggested by anyone
[20:56] <auser_> so what is the command that i should use to remove something ?
[20:57] <auser_> sudo rm -r ?
[20:57] <nacc> auser_: you probably ignored a ';' in a tutorial, or combined two lines from a tutorial?
[20:57] <auser_> which tutorial ?
[20:57] <auser_> oh there was no tutorial..
[20:57] <auser_> i was just in a rush...
[20:57] <nacc> auser_: i don't know? i don't know why you would think the above would be the right command
[20:57] <nacc> auser_: never a good idea to rush as root
[20:57] <auser_> true...
[20:59] <nacc> auser_: rm -r will, if you were root, still have deleted /home, afaict
[21:00] <auser_> so rm -r /home/
[21:00] <auser_> would delete it without asking me if I'm sure i want to delete it ?
[21:01] <nacc> auser_: if you are root, yes, it will (i think)
[21:01] <nacc> auser_: if you are really unsure about your own commands, you can use -i to force interactive
[21:01] <nacc> auser_: or -I
[21:02] <nacc> auser_: or, and this makes far more sense, switch to the user and delete files from their home directory
[21:02] <nacc> auser_: i have no idea why, as admin, you did it as root
[21:02] <w9qbj> nacc: auser_:  I'd suggest an alias  "alias rm='rm -i'"  of course rm -f overrides -i
[21:03] <nacc> w9qbj: that's another idea, yes
[21:03] <IntelCore> Some directories (files) in Ubuntu, dont remove
[21:03] <auser_> so rm -i xxx/
[21:03] <IntelCore> Even with Sudo, it says I dont have that power
[21:04] <auser_> i tried this and it gives me an error
[21:04] <nacc> IntelCore: I don't konw what you are referring to
[21:04] <nacc> auser_: use a pastebin and show what you mean
[21:05] <IntelCore> nacc - ubuntu is not exactly like /root -- and I can't access my own root
[21:05] <nacc> IntelCore: 'ubuntu' is not like /root??
[21:05] <nacc> IntelCore: i really don't know what you are saying
[21:05] <IntelCore> I can access my usr
[21:06] <auser_> ok thanks a lot
[21:06] <IntelCore> I can't do certain things to system /root
[21:07] <nacc> IntelCore: 'your usr' means nothing to me
[21:07] <nacc> IntelCore: you would need to be root to manipulate /root
[21:07] <IntelCore> I have home.  I have a white x on my /root
[21:08] <auser_> are you sure no recovery tool would help in recovering those data nacc ?
[21:08] <nacc> IntelCore: you are using some gui?
[21:08] <nacc> IntelCore: no context for your comments, I have no idea what you're talking about
[21:08] <IntelCore> I have 16.04 unity, bnome desktops
[21:08] <nacc> auser_: i am not sure. using your system makes it much less likely
[21:10] <nacc> IntelCore: the shell, which is what we have been talking about, doesn't show any 'white x'. You are using some GUI to do filesysystem manipulations?
[21:10] <IntelCore>  in /root. I click it and get this..You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of “root”.
[21:10] <nacc> IntelCore: ... so?
[21:10] <nacc> IntelCore: you don't have permission to view /root unless you are root.
[21:11] <genii> Besides which it's normally empty
[21:11] <nacc> genii: indeed
[21:11] <IntelCore> It should ask me to sudo up.?
[21:11] <IntelCore> Instead, it says this directory cannot be displayed
[21:12] <\9> well it's right. it cannot be displayed
[21:12] <\9> not as the user it runs as
[21:12] <\9> if you want to mess with system folders with gui programs (and you don't want to do that), the gui program needs to be run as root
[21:13] <IntelCore> click the file system icon..
[21:13] <nacc> IntelCore: no, it shouldn't ask you to sudo, I believe, as manipulating the fs with a GUI program as root is never a good idea
[21:14] <\9> IntelCore: just leave /root be. it's empty anyway
[21:14] <auronandace> IntelCore: perhaps you should describe what you are trying to accomplish and (more importantly) why
[21:15] <IntelCore> auronandace, I used a file system gui to access /root. But, it wont let me
[21:15] <DaemonFC> Does anyone know if there are plans to support Widevine in Ubuntu's Chromium package?
[21:15] <\9> IntelCore: the system isn't letting you
[21:15] <IntelCore> right
[21:15] <\9> don't blame the gui
[21:16] <auronandace> IntelCore: that answers the what, how about the why
[21:16] <IntelCore> Well, the gui does not provide a way to Sudo/Super
[21:16] <auser_> is there a way to see what did that last command wiped exactly ?
[21:16] <\9> and we alread figured that it shouldn't
[21:16] <auser_> like the folders it wiped so i see if i can recover them from somewhere else ?
[21:16] <IntelCore> auronandace,  I just wanna see it.. wanna know what on pc, and wanna know to learn
[21:16] <ppf> how can i sensibly persist an xinput setting?
[21:17] <\9> IntelCore: if you want to learn to explore the system, learn to use the command line. gui tools only get you so far (not far at all)
[21:17] <IntelCore> auser, do you have a filesystem icon?
[21:17] <nacc> auser_: you can look at the command itself, but otherwise, no
[21:17] <auronandace> IntelCore: if you are happy to learn then you should be happyto read, otherwise it would be safer to set up a vm and have fun braking things inside it without affecting the rest of your system
[21:18] <nacc> IntelCore: you've been told, if you want to GUI navigate an entire filesystem, use gksudo. But it's not recommended.
[21:18] <nacc> IntelCore: instead, learn to use the terminal and commands
[21:18] <auronandace> !fhs | IntelCore
[21:18] <IntelCore> gksudo?  I will look
[21:18] <IntelCore> ty dudes/dudettes
[21:18] <nacc> IntelCore: also, it appears you can install `nautilus-admin` to add an extension to open thing as the administrator
[21:19] <\9> IntelCore: using gui tools with gksudo is a bad idea. you've been warned
[21:19] <IntelCore> Yah, I dont have nautilus
[21:19] <nacc> IntelCore: you said you had gnome earlier
[21:19] <IntelCore> IDK why.. it's not
[21:20] <IntelCore> In fact, there is no way for me to identify the gui for the filesystem, not labled
[21:21] <IntelCore> says "Files Access and organize Files"
[21:21] <auronandace> IntelCore: nautilus is the default file manager for unity and gnome
[21:21] <IntelCore> hmm.. what to find Nautilus.  ?
[21:22] <auronandace> IntelCore: you can check the about section of your file manager to see what you are running
[21:22] <IntelCore> auronandace,  not there
[21:22] <auronandace> IntelCore: about is normally under the help menu
[21:24] <IntelCore> auronandace, I click icon for files.. I got top right to see options.. no About "  is there
[21:26] <IntelCore> I guess it's gnome desktop file viewer then.  Or, Unity?
[21:27] <IntelCore> No Name Nautilus on my Main menu
[21:27] <nacc> IntelCore: at least under gnome, it (the menu) comes from the panel. I don't have unity here to compare.
[21:27] <\9> what if you just press alt+f2 and launch nautilus?
[21:27] <auronandace> IntelCore: if you are using unity then when you have the file manager selected move your cursor over the top bar, you should see file, help, etc of the currently selected application
[21:28] <IntelCore> Show list of applications (no Nautilus)
[21:28] <nacc> IntelCore: but all of this is secondary -- GUI tools are not appropriate for system examination
[21:29] <nacc> *system file/directory examination
[21:30] <IntelCore> copy, move, simple fs
[21:30] <nacc> IntelCore: if you want your gui to prompt you for sudo for accessing it, you were told one way to do it, but there's a reason it's not installed by default
[21:30] <nacc> IntelCore: who are you talking to!?
[21:30] <nacc> IntelCore: i've told you this every day for several days
[21:31] <IntelCore> nacc, , sorry I dont understand.. how it works
[21:31] <krypto_> ok, who's the wiseguy that added an ellipsis with no way to resize the calculator window in 17.04? :)
[21:31] <krypto_> http://i.imgur.com/cP2K5aO.png
[21:31] <\9> IntelCore: the gui tool is for everyday tasks. exploring the system is not one of them
[21:31] <\9> IntelCore: so no, the gui should not try to be run as admin
[21:32] <\9> IntelCore: if you want to explore the system, learn. to use. the command line.
[21:32] <\9> IntelCore: if you want to minimize your risk of wrecking your system in the process, install a virtual machine and play all you want with that
[21:33] <krypto_> other than that, the upgrade from 16.04 -> 16.10 -> 17.04 went smooth as butta
[21:34] <jtty> /who #ubuntu
[21:36] <Bashing-om> IntelCore: ^ OR - as I did - 3rd time I borkked ny system I initiated dual booting . Keep my working system working . and the alternate installs(s) to learn on :)
[21:52] <kristhian> any suggestion on how to fix this?
[21:53] <kristhian> modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'vboxdrv': Required key not available
[21:53] <kristhian> this is happening on my virtualbox install, which i have to enable modprobe vboxdrv
[21:53] <kristhian> 16.04.2 xenial is my current OS
[21:54] <YankDownUnder> kristhian, Did you get a window saying to run : sudo /sbin/rcvboxdrv ---> ?
[21:55] <kristhian> YankDownUnder: none
[21:56] <YankDownUnder> kristhian, Did you install Virtualbox through apt, or directly from the site?
[22:00] <kristhian> YankDownUnder: got my reference here
[22:00] <kristhian> https://www.linuxbabe.com/virtualbox/install-latest-virtualbox-5-1-ubuntu-16-04
[22:00] <kristhian> yep, from the site
[22:00] <kristhian> i mean apt
[22:01] <YankDownUnder> kristhian, So all the dependencies have been met, and after the installation, you've done an update/upgrade and a reboot just to make sure all is well, yes?
[22:01] <kristhian> i didn't upgrade and rebooted yet
[22:03] <kristhian> well should i do that?
[22:03] <kristhian> i mean is it necessary?
[22:03] <YankDownUnder> kristhian, It's best practice.
[22:12] <kristhian> ill just wait on my last install, then ill do an upgrade and reboot
[22:14] <YankDownUnder> kristhian, Coolbeans.
[22:18] <DaemonFC> Hey, does anyone know what could be going on here? My "PowerA" XBOX 360 wireless controller shows up as an unknown USB device in lsusb, but jstest-gtk recognizes it as "Generic Xbox pad" and all of the buttons work fine there, but Steam won't use it.
[22:19] <kristhian> yep, i still have a problem on virtualbox
[22:19] <kristhian> it is still not recognizing
[22:19] <kristhian> 'modprobe vboxdrv'
[22:20] <kristhian> and issuing a command "sudo modprob vboxdrv" returns me this
[22:20] <kristhian> modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'vboxdrv': Required key not available
[22:20] <DaemonFC> hmmm, on further inspection, it looks like the game Shank 2 can use it, but Borderlands 2 doesn't.
[22:21] <DaemonFC> On Windows 10, this controller worked with Borderlands 2. Maybe it's just a porting issue?
[22:26] <kenrin> Did you install the driver daemonFC ?
[22:27] <DaemonFC> I'm just using xpad, I think
[22:27] <kenrin> I think you need the xboxdrv driver instead
[22:28] <DaemonFC> I tried xboxdrv, but it said that no xbox controllers were found.
[22:29] <DaemonFC> Bus 001 Device 008: ID 24c6:530a
[22:29] <kenrin> Did you use the repo one ?
[22:29] <DaemonFC> That's the controller as lsusb says.
[22:30] <kenrin> I see it listed as 0.8.5 and is very old,  don't think it supports powera
[22:30] <DaemonFC> The one included with Ubuntu is old then?
[22:30] <vimar> Hi
[22:30] <kenrin> ubuntu is stable packages unless you are running the latest version and not a LTS
[22:30] <kenrin> Might be worth trying to install the PPA for updated
[22:30] <keepOwn> :D What is wrong on LTS
[22:31] <DaemonFC> I am using 17.04.
[22:31] <keepOwn> mine is 16.04
[22:31] <keepOwn> and it is awesome
[22:31] <DaemonFC> I don't know that I could use anything older if I wanted to. Skylake is still pretty new and older kernels have well known problems with it.
[22:32] <nacc> keepOwn: please minimize the chitchat in the channel
[22:32] <keepOwn> ?
[22:33] <nacc> keepOwn: i'm not sure why what version of ubunt you are running is relevant, you also didn't direct it at anyone.
[22:33] <DaemonFC> xboxdrv reports that it is version 0.8.8.
[22:33] <nacc> DaemonFC: that's accurate for 17.04
[22:34] <keepOwn> :D funny guy
[22:34] <keepOwn> ok , bye
[22:34] <kristhian> ok, i got it fixed by disabling secure boot
[22:35] <DaemonFC> According to the developer's website, xboxdrv 0.8.8 has support for PowerA Pro Ex, which is the controller I'm tryiing to use with it.
[22:35] <kristhian> anyways, can i ask for a previous version of ubuntu?
[22:35] <nacc> kristhian: ask who?
[22:35] <kristhian> where can i download previous release of ubuntu OS
[22:35] <kristhian> hello
[22:35] <nacc> kristhian: http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[22:35] <kristhian> thanks nacc
[22:39] <kristhian> nacc: can you give me a link to ubuntu 16.04.1 release instead?
[22:39] <kristhian> thank you
[22:39] <nacc> kristhian: why do you want to install that release?
[22:39] <nacc> kristhian: 16.04.1 (updated) = 16.04.2 with a different kernel
[22:39] <nacc> kristhian: if you want the 16.04.1 kernel and X install 16.04.2 and install the old packages (I think).
[22:40] <kristhian> i got issues on npm with 16.04.2
[22:41] <nacc> kristhian: all packages except the kernel and X are the same between 16.04.1 (fully updated) and 16.04.2
[22:41] <oerheks> easy to find, no ?
[22:41] <nacc> kristhian: what issue, the npm package?
[22:41] <oerheks> http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/16.04.1/
[22:41] <nacc> oerheks: yes, it is also listed as linked to from the page i already sent kristhian
[22:42] <kristhian> on python.js
[22:42] <oerheks> torrent 6969 skipped those versions due to unlogically sorted, 16.04.1 on top of 16.04.2
[22:43] <nacc> kristhian: i don't know what you mean
[22:44] <kristhian> nacc: i am having issue install that npm on ubuntu 16.04.2
[22:44] <nacc> kristhian: what npm?
[22:44] <kristhian> i wanted to test it out, on 16.04.1
[22:44] <nacc> kristhian: i think you are misundersatnding what 16.04.1 and 16.04.2 are
[22:44] <keepOwn> Някой , който не пише на маймунски :)
[22:44] <DaemonFC> okay, I might have gotten somewhere with xboxdrv using device by id and telling it which device to use and as an xbox360 controller.
[22:44] <DaemonFC> Time to go test it out.
[22:44] <nacc> !ru | keepOwn
[22:44] <keepOwn> че тези ми втръснаха
[22:45] <keepOwn> Не съм Руснак :)
[22:45] <DaemonFC> If it works, I'll just blacklist xpad and load xboxdrv on boot instead.
[22:45] <kristhian> nacc: i just wanted to test if it will work on 16.04.1
[22:45] <kristhian> but if not, then i will ask the owner/creator of that package
[22:45] <nacc> kristhian: so you're going to install an insecure and old OS, put a package on it?
[22:46] <kristhian> yes, sort of like taht
[22:46] <keepOwn> nacc, don't mess with me :) I don't like you
[22:46] <DaemonFC> Nope, at least not with Borderlands 2.
[22:46] <nacc> kristhian: you understand that you should talk to the owner/creator of the package anyways?
[22:46] <nacc> kristhian: the minute you update your 16.04.1, as you should immediately, it will break if it's broken with 16.04.2
[22:47] <kristhian> nacc: then ok, ill just try to wait for the package owner i guess
[22:47] <kristhian> thank you
[22:47] <nacc> kristhian: but as oerheks said, you can do what you want -- i just don't think it makes sense
[22:48] <kristhian> ok, ill just wait with the owner, i changed my mind
[22:48] <kristhian> maybe it is pointless anyway, to check if it will work on 16.04.1
[22:49] <oerheks> kristhian, go test it, so you can file a proper bugreport
[22:49] <kristhian> oerheks: thanks for the link btw
[22:54] <DaemonFC> I may just buy an official Microsoft controller. I understand that people are having problems with the off brand ones on Linux.
[22:55] <DaemonFC> At least, according to the chatter, the only problems I've seen with Steam and XBOX 360 controllers are the knock off brands.
[23:01] <IntelCore> nacc, i think i understand.. these are gnome applications with desktop environment.
[23:02] <IntelCore> nacc, so why nautilus not with gnome-flashback?  Or, is it?
[23:26] <nacc> IntelCore: I don't know what you're referring to? Yes, there are gnome applications on desktop environments. I don't know what 'gnome-flashback' is
[23:36] <krytarik> IntelCore: Nautilus is in fact a dependency of it: https://packages.ubuntu.com/zesty/gnome-session-flashback
[23:38] <thepeoplesknee> Hey, I just tried installing Ubuntu 16.04 on my Dell XPS 13 9360 and there's no sound on the onboard speakers. Audio output works fine with headphones but the internal speakers are not outputting anything other than slight crackles. Any help?