[07:01] <diplo> Morning all
[07:47] <foobarry> wiped my phone for android 7.1.2 so much pain restoring everything :(
[07:48] <foobarry> but, like the windows bitrot, its so fast after a reinstall
[07:49] <foobarry> hang on...malware infested apps, bitrot, no security updates for old versions....is android windows?
[07:57] <popey> foobarry: when I switched a phone to 7.1.2 I just restored everything from the 'cloud'
[08:05] <foobarry> ah i didn't know if that was a cyangoen/lineage feature or google
[08:08] <popey> google
[08:09] <foobarry> its never really worked for me anyway
[08:09] <foobarry> i think my original htc buggered it up
[08:49] <diplo> I may try lineage on my phone, I was about to replace it as the screen had something wrong with it, but it appears to have resolved itself now
[08:52] <foobarry> i've had a repeated wifi issue where my wifi keeps crapping out constantly
[08:55] <diplo> Since the upgrade?
[08:57] <foobarry> pre-
[09:00] <popey> whee, just updated my OPX to latest nightly
[09:01] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:01] <popey> hi
[09:01] <diplo> Well will try and give it a go then
[09:01] <diplo> hi
[09:04] <brobostigon> hi
[09:12] <foobarry> just realised i lost all my text messages
[09:13] <diplo> hah, I was going to ask about that.., titanium and adb backup can do that for you I believe for future ref
[09:13] <diplo> I don't really care myself
[09:13] <foobarry> just accessing my TB from usb otg
[09:30] <foobarry> hmmm titanium doesn't have messages backed up
[09:37] <diplo> Should do when you backup data to xml, had options to select sms etc - wonder if yours wasn't checked or you didn't run that option
[09:47] <foobarry> i have a nandroid backup too but do i really need those old text messages anyway?
[09:47] <foobarry> my phone is a lot faster but maybe because i haven't installed facebook yet
[09:53] <diplo> I never use the facebook app anymore, just a browser
[09:54] <brobostigon> more battery and resource afficiant in comparison using it in a browser.
[09:57] <diplo> 100%, apart from they've start adding a banner saying it's faster with their app, when you close the banner it doesn't resize :)
[09:57] <diplo> A lot of my friends have started copying me, I wonder if they're noticing in the up turn of people doing this
[10:01] <brobostigon> like if you hit the messenger button in a browser too, it refers to opening the play store to the messenger app.
[10:05] <diplo> yeah, you can select browse as desktop and it sort of works, but not great. I rarely get messenger messages now as most people know I don't use it.
[11:41] <awilkins> My other half installed the FB app on a phone she's been raving about the battery life of for weeks (Huwaei P9)
[11:42] <awilkins> She'd uninstalled it by end of day because it ate 50% of her battery in about 4 hours
[11:43] <awilkins> I found it annoying that the reason they removed XMPP support from their chat servers was to promote that piece of ... ahem
[11:44] <awilkins> I can only conclude it's either spyware or Zuck's personal bitcoin mining pool
[12:12] <foobarry> doesn't the app have nicer integration such as hold on comment brings up a menu etc
[12:12] <foobarry> i am annoyed at the "data" space taken up by the app though
[12:14] <foobarry> also which android browsers reflow text on zoom? only opera i've found so far
[12:15] <foobarry> why wouldn't everyone want this?
[12:56] <diddledan> foobarry: there's different processes involved. reflowing text is for when the base font-size changes. most browsers do zooming where the font size remains static and the canvas is enlarged so that it is larger than the viewport - this method preserves everything in correct proportion to each other as the designer wanted. resizing the font breaks most designs.
[12:59] <diddledan> zooming by adjusting the canvas scale factor is a lot more energy efficient, too, so on mobile devices it is the preferred method because resizing the font and reflowing requires a lot of computation to layout the page as the font changes
[12:59] <diplo> I removed Chrome because it used up vast amount of space on my phone, use Ghostery currently but may try opera
[13:28] <diplo> I've got a friend (client?) who has a Buffalo TS-XL027 Nas box like this
[13:28] <diplo> http://www.buffalo-technology.de/en/products/storage-devices/business-nas/terastationtm/archive/ts-wx-terastation-duo/
[13:29] <diplo> It's a bit rubbish, he'd like to replace it... I'd like to replace it with something I can ssh into/rsync from. but I think he'd like to have something like the buffalo, can you guys recommend anything
[13:31] <diplo> I've mentioned just getting a microserver and set that up instead
[13:58] <TwistedLucidity> A microsever would knock that thing into a cocked hat. I think they might still have their cashback offer on as the unload the old models
[14:00] <TwistedLucidity> diplo: https://www.serversdirect.co.uk/p/1039108/hpe-proliant-microserver-gen8-intel-celeron-g1610t-dual-core-.30ghz-mb-4-x-non-hotplug-
[14:03] <TwistedLucidity> Heck, this one is only £113 after the cashback https://www.serversdirect.co.uk/p/1107184/hpe-proliant-ml10-gen9-g4400-dual-core4gb-noon-hot-plug-entry-level-tower-server-
[14:06] <diplo> I just think they like the option of administering it themselves I guess
[14:07] <diplo> I'm tempted to buy another tbh, mines old.. all they do is host files, nothing else though
[14:07] <diplo> I'll give him a few options, just never really used any of the others.. I suppose I could stick Freenas on it
[14:10] <TwistedLucidity> If it's just dumb storage and they don't care much about security, versioning etc; a couple of samba shares would do it.
[14:11] <diplo> yeah I think I'm going to link him to this and say, buy four 2TB drives to do raid10 or smaller to be honest, they don't have a huge amount of data
[14:14] <TwistedLucidity> 4TB are only ~£120
[14:14] <TwistedLucidity> For consumer-grade anyway
[14:14] <diplo> Bit oversized though :)
[14:14] <diplo> Only a single site estate agent, 5 members of staff
[16:28] <diddledan> I've thought of a cool new thing to build - FBaaS: Fork Bombs as a Service. you login to the website and it forkbombs itself
[16:30] <popey> "cool" :)
[18:48] <foobarry> diplo: depending on budget, then synology are good and run linux underneath
[18:54] <foobarry> i have a microserver but i'm dreading upgrading
[18:55] <foobarry> i seem to remember grub issues with booting RAID1 disks
[19:18] <popey> i just recovered a zfs pool on my microserver
[19:18] <popey> so relieved
[21:13] <diddledan> popey: what was it doing (your ZFS)?
[21:14] <diddledan> phew. I been battling a really simple problem for the past FOUR HOURS! https://github.com/web-animations/web-animations-js/issues/141
[21:15] <diddledan> "800" !== 800
[21:15] <diddledan> really crazy simple thing that I couldn't see for want of looking
[21:22] <zmoylan-pi> if you stare at a problem too long you become blinder to it
[21:22] <popey> i have a microserver with 5 internal disks and 4 external (in a drive array)
[21:22] <popey> the array failed catastrophically, just won't power on
[21:23] <diddledan> damn
[21:23] <popey> https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00LN0GX4I/ so i bought a couple of them to attach over usb to get the data off them
[21:23] <popey> got zfs to see the pool and now am scping the data off it \o/
[21:23] <diddledan> fingers crossed you don't get more death
[21:31] <popey> it's just very slow now because those caddys are usb3 but the microserver is usb2