[00:02] Hi, I am trying to give access to folder in my home folder to other users, but it didn't work. [00:03] I created a new group [00:03] assigned both users to said group and change the folder permission to group permission [00:03] but users can't still access said folder, even the symlink I created is not accessible [00:03] why I can access to folder and symlink. [00:04] Is it because my home folder does not have read permission for this group and thus they can't access that folder? [00:05] i.e., I did this https://askubuntu.com/questions/573138/want-to-share-folders-with-another-user-in-ubuntu-14-04 [00:12] you want share /home [00:12] which is.. not ideal [00:13] I want to share home/folder [00:13] Colombo, I know two ways to share files [00:14] samba [00:14] but samba is often buggy [00:14] If they are not in the same pc there are more advanced things to do [00:14] they are on the same PC, on the same HD [00:14] even on the same partition [00:15] well.. hmm [00:15] so should I create a new folder in folder where are user folders [00:15] i.e., home/user1, home/user2, home/sharedfolder? [00:15] That could solve some issues [00:16] nFs shares.. possibly LDAP use [00:17] it is over networking, but idk if it work local machine [00:19] Colombo, https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1785758 [00:21] Colombo, that's prob not helping your question [00:21] IntelCore: I was about to write it:) === alexandre9099_ is now known as alexandre9099 [00:22] colints, http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2015/02/share-a-folder-in-ubuntu-14-04/ [00:23] this for 14.04 [00:23] IntelCore: thats Samba, I would rather not used Samba, Samba seems to be really buggy [00:24] when I was sharing between my notebook and desktop, setting up SSH server on desktop is easier than solving all the issues with samba [00:25] yea [00:26] Doesn't a guest get a desktop and full-apps to use? [00:27] Colombo, so you perscribe permissions for their use [00:28] They get their usr directory [00:28] IntelCore: Yes, they get their home directory [00:28] IntelCore: I am just trying to make my movie folder accessible to said user [00:28] so can the app/ files be put into a share directory? [00:29] IntelCore: yes? [00:29] Yes [00:29] IntelCore: I think that I will just give my GF my password, this seems to be the easiest solution. But I hoped for something better. [00:29] mp3, video, photos docs [00:30] IntelCore: I hoped that there could be more... systematic solution, i.e., making folder actually shared by granting permission [00:30] I thought that this shouldn't be problem on Linux, I thought that linux as multi-user system would be fine with that. [00:30] You yourself might have a super user single sign-on. also a sudo signon, and maybe a guest sign-on [00:31] sharing them video is easy [00:31] take a while to copy to a share directory [00:32] thats why I wanted to just give rights, avoiding all the copy thing and just symlink [00:32] then u set permissions.. if so [00:32] gah.. idk if windo works that way either [00:33] i'fink, in that.. can share root [00:33] ver dangerous [00:33] IntelCore, what is dangerous [00:34] trying share /home, or root [00:34] home/user/specific_folder [00:34] I gave permission to specific folder [00:34] created new group, put both users into said group [00:35] changed ownership of folder and all subfolders to that group [00:35] user2 still can't access that folder even through created symlink [00:35] it has nothing to do with windows [00:35] bazhang, And I just said move/copy video to a shared [00:36] IntelCore, how is that dangerous, having a shared folder [00:37] no no.. share /root.. especialy windo roots c: [00:37] IntelCore, keep the nonsense out of here please [00:37] well that is.. danger [00:38] IntelCore, I will not ask you again [00:38] ? [00:38] IntelCore, windows c: has nothing to do with ubuntu, dont even need to ever mention it here [00:41] yah know.. I have successfully helped others that visit. I don't think I will no more. And, I'll find my own way.. [00:43] I have just shrunk my hdd partition, and then installed Kali linux on that partition. How do I now update GRUB to access that partition? [01:05] hi, where to get python 2.7.13? [01:06] Hi everybody, I have a ubuntu server 16.04 . it works , but whenever I remove the PCI graphic card , it does not work anymore , I am unable to access it via SSH [01:06] zacky83: pc wont boot? [01:07] joules pc will boot but network light is off [01:07] please check your bios configuration [01:07] I wish I could start ubuntu server without any graphic card [01:07] you can the OS doesn't care. [01:07] joules what should I do in the BIOS ? [01:09] check the MB manual. for "Halt on ..." or set the primary graphics card to onboard OR select a legacy bios boot mode. [01:09] I already switched to onboard graphics [01:09] what should I change ibn Halt on ? [01:10] this really isn't a ubuntu related question. [01:10] check ##hardware [01:10] but if you are doing something funky with pci bus binds/unbinds! [01:11] ya im psychic [01:12] joules tell me what to do [01:12] you unbind the pci bus where the ethernet nic is on! [01:12] forget it. [01:12] joules , how can I do this ? [01:12] Hi I got a Lenovo Y700 laptop that currently have 2 Windows partitions in GPT and installed in UEFI, SecureBoot is disabled, can I simply strip a part of the SSD and install an ubuntu variant on it without any issues? [01:13] Data loss of original windows partitions is unacceptable in mysetup and they must remain with all data intact [01:13] Simply want to dual boot and let GRUB or whatever bootloader is used these days [01:13] zacky83: omg! own up to EXACTLY what you are doing. [01:14] you cannot unbind the pci bus for your video card and expect other devices on that bus stop working. [01:14] I haven't had any experience with linux in the past 7 years or so on laptops with GPT and UEFI, last I used Linux I simply had BIOS [01:14] * joules applies for the IRC psychic award of the week. [01:14] joules should I try to activate legacy bios boot mode [01:15] zacky83: tell me what you are trying to do. [01:15] joules . my ubuntu server only works if I plug the PCI graphic card [01:16] you have onboard graphics. [01:16] done. [01:16] if I unplug it , I can not access the PC with ssh because the network seems to be off [01:16] how are you unpluging it. [01:16] I apologize, am I registered and can people see what I type? NickServe says I am logged in but I got a msg from it saying I need to re-join after identifying [01:16] I remove the PCI card once the ubuntu server is off [01:16] GWM: #freenode [01:17] zacky83: so attach a monitor to the onboard graphics. [01:17] So you can see what I type, which means nickserve have me logged in, thx [01:17] =d [01:17] joules , there is no onboard graphics [01:17] OMFG [01:18] i borked my Apache vhost configuration for 3 tiny websites I administer. i'm starting over. so i backed up my old /etc/apache2/. How do I repopulate my default configuration files? I tried uninstalling and reinstalling apache with apt, but 000-default.conf is still not present inside /etc/apache2/sites-available/ [01:18] how do i regen all those key files? [01:18] Drone4four: hmm reinstall? [01:18] joules, i already did that, as i said [01:18] using apt [01:18] sudo apt-get remove apache2* [01:19] Drone4four: apt-get install --reinstall [01:19] [01:19] thanks, joules. i'll try that now [01:19] joules , now I replugged the PCI , I am in the BIOS : boot device is UEFI and LEGACY OPROM [01:19] Have you checked /etc/apache2/sites-available/default? [01:20] Drone4four: I would backup /etc/apache2 and apt-get purge. [01:21] Oh well, I guess Linux UEFI/GPT is still something of voodoo [01:21] also aren't there files for apache in /etc/default? [01:21] joules , I am completely lost [01:24] but the NIC is not on the graphic card .... I can not understand [01:24] joules, that worked [01:24] thanks, Friend [01:25] zacky83: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI [01:28] Did Nickserv at last accept me? [01:28] joules , I don't know what to do to make ubunut server work without the pci card [01:42] Hi, anyone know anything about GPT/UEFI and if you can install ubuntu on existing SSD with 2 Windows partitions in GPT/UEFI, and not lose any existing Windows data? This might be a stupid question but last I used Linux on the desktop this was problematic, and I mostly use Linux for servers these days [01:42] Secureboot is disabled [01:43] when I try to set up a new device for bluetooth, ubuntu says there's no adapters found [01:43] How can I make it so when I plug in a drive, it's accessible to all users not just the currently logged in one? [01:43] why does ubuntu not see my bluetooth adapter [01:44] bumblefuzz, google search your bluetooth adapters model number + your ubuntu version. You'll find your answer, and probably a solution [01:45] how do I know what bluetooth adapter I have? [01:46] depends on how it's connected to your motherboard [01:47] GWM, i've done that successfully, something like gparted can shrink one window partition, and ubuntu normally works fine from UEFI and a GPT partition [01:47] if it's USB, you can use 'sudo lsusb -v' [01:47] Bumblefuzz, is it integrated or usb? [01:47] hey guys, I am running 16.04 in a headless vm on vbox, but i need a gui for now. i have installed what i need and get to the login screen, but there are no users visible (I can only log in as guest). How do I make it so that my user 'vagrant' shows up? [01:47] if it's PCI, lspci -v [01:48] integrated [01:48] I have W10 so I can just remove as much as I need from one partition and free it up [01:48] thewillo answer is correct [01:48] You've answered my question, thanks :) [01:49] Tomorrow I install Kubuntu, and hope my data isn't lost! [01:49] GWM, well afterwards the partition will still have to be shrunk using something like gparted anyway, just freeing space won't do the trick (unless the ubuntu installer can shrink the partition itself, i haven't actually installed *ubuntu* in a while) [01:49] data lost? how is the data you are wanting to keep stored? [01:49] I don't know what I'm seeing [01:49] personally, I use a different partition for /home, and another drive for media/important file storage [01:50] Pastebin, bumblefuzz [01:50] I mean Kubuntu would go on a third parition, and then preferably /home and /boot and on separate partitions as well, thank god for GPT allowing more than 4 partition tables [01:50] GPT is good:D [01:51] http://paste.ubuntu.com/24743383/ [01:51] GWM: mbr allows for more than 4 partitions in a partition table if that's what you meant [01:51] Last I installed Linux on dual boot (2009ish?) it was a paaaaaaaaain with MBR and enough partitions [01:52] oops, damn lenovo shortcuts [01:52] akik is right... You can install windows(if you want it) and /boot as primary, then install linux to your extended partition [01:52] who makes a button to close current window and put it next to f5? === JonathanD is now known as to [01:52] That's right, the geniuouses over at Lenovo === to is now known as JonathanD [01:52] GWM, better than acer [01:52] GWM, GPT can actually be easier if you don't have weird UEFI setups. i also suggest you check out the Refind bootloader. Ubuntu will just install GRUB by default like on BIOS systems, but Refind can start Linux as an EFI app directly and it's pretty cool [01:53] I have UEFI [01:53] Windows is installed as UEFI [01:53] GWM, yes, i know, or you wouldn't be using GPT [01:53] i mean literally UEFI setups that are *weird* [01:53] what's the problem with UEFI GWM? [01:53] like for instance the computer i'm typing on right now has a 64bit processor but the UEFI is 32bit, and Ubuntu used to be pretty unhappy about that [01:53] Or well, it reports EFI in C:\Windows\Panther\setupact.log [01:54] I'm afraid I can't trust Lenovo on much, so why would UEFI be different? [01:54] thewillo: Nothing hopefully, I just have PTSD from 2009-2010 and Linux on desktops [01:54] oh [01:55] GWM, it'll probably be alright, my computer is a bit special as it's one of those inexpensive half-tablet half-laptop things [01:55] I pretty much use Linux only for servers but now I've decided to try Kubuntu (or maybe kde-neon) [01:55] Ubuntu supports UEFI fully [01:55] Can secureboot be enabled? [01:55] My laptop though, does not comply with UEFI standards, and the only way to get linux to boot, is to have dual-boot enabled and tell WINDOWS not UEFI to look for grub [01:55] (Does it matter?) [01:55] anyone? [01:56] Ubuntu can boot with secureboot [01:56] but just... turn it off [01:56] It is off [01:56] I like kde, but God does it hog resourses [01:56] (at least until Microsoft invalidates the certificate for it for whatever reason) [01:57] I like lxde... My lubuntu boots in 3 seconds from the time I tell grub to boot it, until it's fully loaded and running [01:57] This is a 850€ish lenovo ideapad 700 (Y700ISKI or something), that I put a 960 EVO NVMe in [01:58] I had hoped that NTFS-3g still works well and I can just share my windows D: with ubuntu without any problems [01:58] can anyone tell me wht kind of bluetooth adapter I have? http://paste.ubuntu.com/24743383/ [01:58] what do you mean share your windows? [01:58] you want to install linux onto windows? [01:58] Mount my D: drive using NTFS-3g [01:58] or similar [01:58] bumblefuzz, what flavour are you using? [01:58] Back in 2010ish it was ntfs-3g that was used to mount r/w windows partitions [01:58] but yeah, long time ago [01:59] GWM, i read/write NTFS routinely from Debian as i keep my SD cards as that for compatibility with Windows [01:59] ubuntu mate [01:59] Lsusb [01:59] Lspci [01:59] me? [01:59] you can mount your windows paritition in ubuntu no problem, and if you use ext3 instead of ext4, there is drivers to mount your linux partitions in windows too [01:59] Yes [02:00] About that, on a NVMe SSD, are there any recommendations on EXT3 vs 4 [02:00] but the drivers are third-party, you have to download and install them [02:00] I've heard rumours that EXT3 works better [02:00] and will eh, consume the lifetime of the disk less [02:00] bumblefuzz [02:00] Do we still make ReiserFS jokes? [02:00] can you run " $rfkill list " and paste the output? [02:00] It was a killer FS [02:00] GWM, i'm not sure about that, but do mount ext with relatime [02:00] ext4 when it was newly added to linux, well, certain linux setups would cause data corruption, but ext4 support is perfect now in linux [02:01] bumblefuzz, 00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP USB 3.0 xHCI [02:01] GWM, you're talking about ext2 which lacks journaling [02:01] ext4 can't be mounted on windows though unless there is a new driver I don't know about [02:01] http://paste.ubuntu.com/24743486/ [02:02] HCI denotes Host Controller Interface [02:02] LjL, is that bootloader available default instead of GRUB? [02:02] but ext4 is faster than ext3, not sure by how much, but I read some reviews/blogs and everyone said ext4 is the most efficient/fastest partition type for typical users on linux [02:02] k [02:02] Or do I have to uninstall grub and then install it? [02:02] what does that mean? [02:02] Refind bootloader that is [02:02] GWM, no, but it's available as a package in Ubuntu, and no, you don't have to remove GRUB because UEFI supports having as many bootloaders at the same time as you can fit in the EFI ESP partition [02:03] bumblefuzz, you can google up Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP USB 3.0 xHCI I found multiple threads [02:03] GWM, you just tell your UEFI setup which of them you want to load by default [02:03] I'm guessing that you have a HP ProBook? [02:04] GWM, in fact, technically you don't need a bootloader at all as you could just set a Linux kernel up to be booted directly by UEFI. but that's generally not too practical [02:04] All I say is that this is a lenovo laptop and they can never be trusted to have a sane implementation [02:05] bumblefuzz, do you have a directory called " hci0 " in /sys/class/bluetooth ? [02:05] at least it's the chinese government that have the backdoors and not the US [02:05] Oh right, intel ME, shit [02:06] iCherry: yep [02:08] is that the chinese backdoor for my bluetooth? [02:09] GWM: Pretty good SSD guide : https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/ssd . [02:09] Hello, running Ubuntu Gnome 16.04, full screen windows open on the wrong (secondary) monitor. It worked fine when secondary was to the right of primary, but not now that it is above [02:09] [![Stories in Progress](https://badge.waffle.io/waffleio/waffle.io.svg?label=waffle%3Ain%20progress&title=In%20Progress)](http://waffle.io/waffleio/waffle.io) [02:10] sry, wrong channel [02:10] bumblefuzz, hmm, can you paste some logs? run " journalctl -xb | grep blue " [02:12] http://paste.ubuntu.com/24743541/ [02:13] iCherry: done [02:13] well, theres definitely some errors there [02:13] okayyy [02:13] hold on [02:14] sorry I'm noobish [02:14] btw, from your logs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24743568/ [02:16] bumblefuzz, this is a COMPLETELY blind shot, but can you try to install this package, and see if it fixes anything? http://people.canonical.com/~sforshee/lp1686815/linux-firmware_1.157.11~pre201704282144_all.deb [02:17] ok [02:17] ...and what is that? [02:17] well, the errors were "firmware errors", so i simply googled it [02:18] came up with an answer pointing to that [02:19] bumblefuzz, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-firmware/+bug/1686815 relates to something different, but has the same error [02:19] Launchpad bug 1686815 in linux-firmware (Ubuntu Xenial) "Missing Bluetooth firmware for intel 8265 on Ubuntu 16.04" [Medium,Fix committed] [02:22] iCherry: I get an error [02:22] can you pastebin it? [02:22] no longer provides linux-firmware [02:22] it isn't cli [02:23] ah [02:23] hmm, ok [02:23] I used the package installer [02:27] bumblefuzz, can you try this in terminal? " wget http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-firmware/linux-firmware_1.161.1_all.deb " followed by " sudo dpkg -i linux-firmware_1.161.1_all.deb " [02:28] it's doing stufff [02:28] ok [02:28] done [02:28] both of them? [02:28] yep [02:29] alright, can you try running the bluetooth application again? [02:29] and see if it works? [02:30] still doesn't work [02:30] iCherry: probably needs to reload the blutooth module again [02:31] bumblefuzz, " sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth restart " should restart bluetooth module, as akik said [02:32] still says no adapters found [02:32] can you pastebin it/ [02:32] ? [02:32] I'm just using the bluetooth icon on my menubar [02:32] not a cli command [02:33] did it restart though? [02:33] I can pastebin a command if you tell me what you want me to type [02:33] the bluetooth restart command, mentioned above [02:34] http://paste.ubuntu.com/24743774/ [02:34] it restarted, yes [02:35] i was thinking of modprobe -r module and modprobe module [02:37] bumblefuzz, can you paste the whole output of " lspci -knn | grep Net -A2; lsusb " === Piece_Maker is now known as Acou_Bass [02:39] iCherry: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24743806/ [02:39] any way to get the deault terminal to color url's? [02:41] bumblefuzz, has bluetooth worked before? === r0Oter is now known as r00ter [02:41] nope [02:41] brand new laptop [02:42] can you give the output of " uname -a " [02:43] http://paste.ubuntu.com/24743835/ [02:45] im clueless [02:46] well, that makes two of us [02:54] bumblefuzz: what laptop is it? model name and full number. should be a sticker at bottom [02:55] Lenovo X270 === andyhuzhill1 is now known as andyhuzhill === nolsen is now known as Donald_Trump === Donald_Trump is now known as nolsen [03:05] bumblefuzz: what version of linux-firmware you have? [03:07] iCherry: don't know [03:07] jushur: don't know [03:09] bumblefuzz: apt show linux-firmware [03:10] http://paste.ubuntu.com/24744037/ [03:12] bumblefuzz: can you paste lsmod output to [03:13] http://paste.ubuntu.com/24744050/ [03:13] the linux-firmware is "suposed" to be new enough. but i have my doubts. [03:14] bumblefuzz: you have the hardware button toggled to enabled for bluetooth? [03:16] bumblefuzz: can you reboot the computer. as you upgraded firmware you should try a fresh cooldboot. [03:17] bumblefuzz: also you can take the newest firmware from that site. [03:24] im on 14.04 - when i surf to http://localhost it says "Not Found: vhost: localhost /" [03:24] so i assume i have a webserver running. But cannot figure out what [03:25] Squarism [03:25] can you run "ps aux" and look for "apache" [03:25] dont have it running [03:26] sudo ps aux | grep apache [03:26] gives nothing [03:26] ^iCherry [03:26] well, apache is the most common [03:26] listens says: [03:26] tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:80 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN - [03:26] no pid associated [03:27] netstat -l [03:27] that is [03:29] can you run [03:30] apache2 --version [03:30] to check if its installed [03:40] Squarism? [03:41] its not installed [03:41] how about [03:41] ps aux | grep -E 'httpd|apache' [03:41] anything there? [03:42] Squarism ^^ [03:43] nope [03:43] lsof -Pni :80 [03:43] ? [03:43] has he tried lsof -i :port# [03:44] Squarism, that last command might return your browser, but anything beside that? === deathonater is now known as Smeef [03:45] im giving up on it [03:45] lsof -Pni :80 [03:45] does that give anything? [03:47] Squarism if " lsof -Pni :80 " doesnt give anything,then its nothing [03:47] iCherry: 'ps aux | grep nginx' [03:48] hm, on this same note [03:49] same process, pid keeps changing [03:49] http://paste.ubuntu.com/24744324/ [04:03] I'm having some trouble with my boot/grub on my Precise install. Where is the best place to go for help? [04:05] hmm iCherry you should be able to stop the service [04:07] sirru5h, whenever i try to kill it, it says there is no such project [04:21] hello, I am wondering how much lag I am getting in this Oracle virtual box Ubuntu 16.04 installation inside a Windows10x64 machine, 8gb ram and SSD on a laptop? [04:21] jennie, it depends on your cpu [04:21] some cpu's support hardware acceleration of virtual machines, some don't [04:22] thewillo: cpu is i5 6300 2.40ghz [04:22] 6300U* [04:22] oh, then very little lag [04:22] unless you configure the vm wrong and disable hardware acceleration, or have it disabled in your bios/UEFI firmware [04:23] how to configure it correctlyy? i went with default settings [04:23] also, you need 2d and 3d hardware acceleration supported by your video card [04:24] This is Dell latitude E5570 [04:24] what kind of graphics chip does it have? [04:25] I have intel HD graphics 530 [04:25] Oh, then you should run lubuntu not normal ubuntu [04:25] because normal ubuntu uses unity which is heavy on the graphical processing [04:26] lubuntu is ubuntu, with lxde instead of unity, and it comes with lighter weight programs by default but you can install with apt-get all the same programs that normal ubuntu comes iwth [04:26] *with [04:26] they are the same distribution almost, and use the same software repositories [04:27] anyways I gotta reboot, be back in a few [04:30] How can I download stuff from ubuntu software center, its asking for ubuntu ID and I do not liek to make one. [04:30] Earlier it was free [04:30] like no ID and all [04:35] If my installation suddenly only boots to the memtest image, what is the best way to get this corrected and back to my Precise Pangolin? [04:37] Select the non memtest image at the boot menu? [04:38] @kenrin That's the rub, and I should have been more clear in my post, but there are no other options to choose from. [04:39] Not even recovery ? Probably going to have to boot with liveusb|cd and fix the menu listings then [04:41] @kenrin thanks. Once on the LIVE distro, is it as easy as "grub-install" to get things back on track? [04:42] If you got only one hard-drive, yes [04:44] If you messed up something in /boot and deleted a kernel it might take a bit more work [04:45] One system drive, and 3 spanned in a software RAID5, complications? [04:47] I don't remember doing anything drastic, especially in /boot. I was not home when the power went out and this was the problem that manifested. === andyhuzhill1 is now known as andyhuzhill [04:50] Just make sure you mount the system drive. I think you need to specify the boot dir too [04:52] something similar to: grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/boot /dev/sda [04:52] Thanks @kenrin, I'm downloading the iso and making a bootable flash now. [04:52] * flatloop crosses his fingers [04:54] flatloop: what's the problem? [04:54] Somehow his kernel and recovery got removed from grub [04:55] What Kenrin said. [04:55] what error is he getting [04:55] Just memtest at boot [04:55] oh [04:55] try hitting "c" and browse with "ls /boot" to see what you have there [04:56] I tried just an ls and it doesn't like that command. [04:56] in the grub> prompt? [04:57] Correct. [04:57] odd [04:57] Thats why I don't like write-cache [04:59] Okay my boot disk is done. Shall return. Thanks again kenrin. [05:14] hello, first time user of Lubuntu here. i'm having trouble. i'm a noob but i am somewhat resourceful. anyone able to provide me some help? i'm sure it will be a piece of cake for all of you :) [05:15] i had windows xp installed on my laptop, couldn't make it work. for some reasons internet explorer would just show msn.com and nothing else [05:15] so i got tired of it and installed lubuntu [05:15] all i get is a black screen after the lubuntu load screen tho [05:16] i've tried some stuff around the net.. nomodeset and such. i'm sure i haven't done anything correctly tho. i'm totally lost with linux/ubuntu [05:16] is tntnet part of ubuntu? [05:17] default web server so to speak? [05:22] Black screen? Can you drop to a shell and check|install your graphics drivers [05:24]