| lotuspsychje | good morning to all | 04:29 |
|---|---|---|
| EriC^^ | morning lotuspsychje | 04:29 |
| lotuspsychje | hey EriC^^ | 04:29 |
| Bashing-om | Hiya lotuspsychje ! Got your hip wadders on ? It may get deep in main :) | 04:30 |
| lotuspsychje | hey Bashing-om | 04:33 |
| Bashing-om | lotuspsychje: Good day in the neighborhood :D | 04:33 |
| lotuspsychje | 2 days of work left | 04:35 |
| Bashing-om | lotuspsychje: Then it is lotuscomputers full time ? | 04:41 |
| lotuspsychje | Bashing-om: nono, my boss has avoided confrontation | 04:42 |
| lotuspsychje | Bashing-om: so for now..the sea has calmed down | 04:42 |
| EriC^^ | ? | 04:42 |
| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: yeah i was angry at my boss the other day | 04:42 |
| EriC^^ | why? | 04:42 |
| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: he told me to go wipe the floor in de middle shift | 04:42 |
| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: and its always opening shift guy, that has to do it | 04:43 |
| EriC^^ | oh | 04:43 |
| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: so i ran off, without looking back that day | 04:43 |
| lotuspsychje | did my hours and didnt wipe the floor lol | 04:43 |
| EriC^^ | :D | 04:44 |
| EriC^^ | so in 2 more days no more work? | 04:44 |
| EriC^^ | for good? | 04:44 |
| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: no i mean 2 days in a row left to work | 04:44 |
| lotuspsychje | ill continue as long as i can EriC^^ | 04:45 |
| lotuspsychje | cause full time business costs too much for now | 04:45 |
| EriC^^ | oh ok | 04:45 |
| Bashing-om | EriC^^: lotuspsychje That ^ was wishful think'n :) | 04:45 |
| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: but lotuscomputers starts to run good | 04:46 |
| lotuspsychje | 4th invoice | 04:46 |
| EriC^^ | nice | 04:46 |
| Bashing-om | lotuspsychje: We look forward to the day ya get an apprentice :) | 04:47 |
| lotuspsychje | Bashing-om: whats apprentice mean | 04:47 |
| Bashing-om | One that is learning .. he does the grunt work for ya; taking the load off you . | 04:49 |
| lotuspsychje | right | 04:49 |
| lotuspsychje | well 2 new ppl have applyed for the kitchen job | 04:49 |
| lotuspsychje | lets see what that gives.. | 04:49 |
| Bashing-om | :P | 04:50 |
| EriC^^ | :D | 04:53 |
| lotuspsychje | 4 jobs @ canonical | 04:55 |
| lotuspsychje | https://www.canonical.com/careers/all-vacancies | 04:55 |
| lotuspsychje | seems like they have trimmed a lot | 04:55 |
| Bashing-om | lotuspsychje: Since convergence is no longer the goal, I guess one can expect "cuts" . | 04:56 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah | 05:00 |
| Bashing-om | This is my backside headed to bed :) | 05:19 |
| lotuspsychje | laterz guys, work | 06:11 |
| lotuspsychje | have a nice sunday | 06:11 |
| ducasse | hi all | 06:43 |
| BluesKaj | Hi folks | 13:52 |
| daftykins | heya \o | 13:54 |
| daftykins | all well, BluesKaj? | 13:54 |
| BluesKaj | hi daftykins, yeah except for my debian install which just kernel panicked | 13:56 |
| daftykins | d'aww! | 13:56 |
| daftykins | i wonder what that's about | 13:56 |
| BluesKaj | no major updates or upgrades | 13:56 |
| pauljw | hey BluesKaj, daftykins good to see ya, sorry to hit and run but i have to mow again before it gets way too hot. bbl... | 13:59 |
| BluesKaj | dunno , may have to reinstall to / ... never had a kernel panick before and didn't pay much attention the workarounds or solutions when it happened to others | 14:00 |
| daftykins | pauljw: enjoy! | 14:00 |
| BluesKaj | panic even | 14:01 |
| BluesKaj | assume it could be any number of things going wrong | 14:02 |
| EriC^^ | hey daftykins BluesKaj | 14:02 |
| daftykins | \o | 14:02 |
| EriC^^ | how's it going? | 14:02 |
| daftykins | BluesKaj: nothing in kernel logs? i'd probably be memtesting too o0 | 14:02 |
| BluesKaj | hey EriC^^ | 14:02 |
| daftykins | not bad here cheers, down at my house atm where the tiler is grouting the bathroom :) | 14:02 |
| EriC^^ | cool | 14:03 |
| BluesKaj | daftykins, it's on the same ssd as my kubuntu installation/dual boot | 14:03 |
| EriC^^ | you're staying at home for good now? | 14:03 |
| daftykins | EriC^^: nah i'm in a holiday cottage up at the hotel until the 16th | 14:04 |
| BluesKaj | daftykins, remos still ongoing , nice :-) | 14:04 |
| daftykins | there's nowhere to sleep, here :) every room is full of crap | 14:04 |
| BluesKaj | renos even :-) | 14:04 |
| BluesKaj | oh lord | 14:04 |
| daftykins | hehe well i'd love to be finished but we uncovered too many surprises | 14:04 |
| daftykins | and i'm spending too much :( | 14:04 |
| BluesKaj | moneypit ? | 14:05 |
| BluesKaj | property brothers ! | 14:07 |
| BluesKaj | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Property_Brothers ...these guys are supposedly the answer to moneypit nightmares | 14:09 |
| BluesKaj | if you have "the coin" | 14:10 |
| daftykins | hehe | 14:12 |
| BluesKaj | raining here, a good day to relax and muck about with the pc :-) | 14:28 |
| daftykins | ooh yes, that they are | 14:29 |
| BluesKaj | got all my yard work done the last few days so i deserve it | 14:30 |
| BluesKaj | wife agrees, but wait til the weather clears, then she'll conjure up some tasks ...guaranteed :-) | 14:33 |
| daftykins | XD such is the way with 'the management' | 14:34 |
| BluesKaj | yup | 14:35 |
| Cat_tech3 | hi guys | 14:55 |
| daftykins | lo | 14:59 |
| Cat_tech3 | i have difficulty trying to determine where i should ask this | 15:00 |
| Cat_tech3 | but i am trying to build a new system with an amd ryzen 7 cpu and would like to have ubuntu on it | 15:00 |
| Cat_tech3 | it has a 1050 ti gpu | 15:00 |
| daftykins | so, what's the problem? things haven't *really* been smoothed out for Linux on most motherboards yet | 15:01 |
| Cat_tech3 | i have both seen amd ryzen 7 linux systems | 15:02 |
| Cat_tech3 | and 1050 ti i assume has better driver support | 15:02 |
| Cat_tech3 | for linux | 15:02 |
| daftykins | than what o0 | 15:04 |
| daftykins | i'd definitely always go nvidia | 15:04 |
| Cat_tech3 | would this support ubuntu you think? | 15:05 |
| Cat_tech3 | the cpu+gpu combi | 15:06 |
| daftykins | like i said Ryzen isn't ace on Linux yet, bit early | 15:09 |
| Cat_tech3 | :( | 15:10 |
| oerheks | ryzen works from kernel 4.10 and up, and that budget 1050 should work fine too | 15:11 |
| BluesKaj | I have seen some users who had success wih ubuntu on the ryzen cpu..forgot which graphics they came with... presumably amd gpus | 15:11 |
| daftykins | there are still some motherboards that go wildly bad on it, heard of MSI and gigabyte ones being odd | 15:12 |
| BluesKaj | MSI is junk IME , on any OS | 15:12 |
| daftykins | yipyip | 15:13 |
| Cat_tech3 | GIGABYTE Aorus GAAX370Gaming 5 (rev. 1.0), | 15:13 |
| Cat_tech3 | this is the mobo i wanted to go with it | 15:13 |
| Cat_tech3 | but i see your note on being troublesome | 15:13 |
| BluesKaj | in Canada they're distributed by what seems like the russian mafia | 15:13 |
| daftykins | BluesKaj: XD | 15:14 |
| Cat_tech3 | found this reddit : https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/6247wx/ubuntu_has_issues_installing_to_gigabyte_ryzen/ | 15:14 |
| daftykins | picture might be a bit brighter come October when 17.10 will be out, assuming you'd risk non-LTS at all | 15:17 |
| Cat_tech3 | is debian any better>\ | 15:19 |
| Cat_tech3 | ? | 15:19 |
| daftykins | no it's all about the Linux kernel | 15:19 |
| daftykins | it's a platform issue :) | 15:19 |
| oerheks | so none of us here have ryzen? | 15:20 |
| daftykins | nah | 15:22 |
| Cat_tech3 | we need a tester | 15:25 |
| daftykins | hmm? i already said i've seen folks with issues | 15:25 |
| Cat_tech3 | someone just noted that switching to slower ram fixed the issue | 15:25 |
| daftykins | AMD only just pushed out a huge important BIOS update for manufacturer's to integrate into their motherboards | 15:25 |
| Cat_tech3 | ryzen 7 has a ram speed maximum | 15:25 |
| daftykins | everything has a maximum :P it got tweaked with the update i mention | 15:25 |
| Cat_tech3 | yes but there was an article about a mobo update from AMD | 15:26 |
| Cat_tech3 | that raised the maximum ram speed compatibility for the cpu | 15:26 |
| Cat_tech3 | was at 3200 max normally | 15:26 |
| Cat_tech3 | and i just read about the ryzen 7 x370 mobo + linux issue being solved by someone using slower ram (2400) | 15:27 |
| daftykins | that's what i just said XD | 15:27 |
| daftykins | and that makes no sense, slowing RAM for an OS | 15:28 |
| daftykins | anyway, i've always been against Gigabyte :) | 15:28 |
| Cat_tech3 | who knows why it works for him, i can think of one possibility | 15:28 |
| Cat_tech3 | he tested it with 17.04 btw | 15:29 |
| Cat_tech3 | it has the linux 4.10 kernel | 15:32 |
| Cat_tech3 | https://superuser.com/questions/1189362/ryzen-7-unable-to-install-ubuntu-or-debian | 15:33 |
| daftykins | like i said, October'd be a better goal | 15:33 |
| Cat_tech3 | the guys who claims that he fixed the issue | 15:33 |
| Cat_tech3 | i know, but i am willing to help people that are stuck already | 15:33 |
| daftykins | i've not heard any issues with install, just panics and instability | 15:34 |
| Cat_tech3 | i have read multiple people with installation issues | 15:34 |
| daftykins | right, but dated when... :) | 15:35 |
| Cat_tech3 | so a shout out to anybody in this room with a ryzen 7 or who knows somebody who does, please bring him/her in | 15:35 |
| Cat_tech3 | or relay to test it with the 4.10 kernel and slower ram 2400 , to see if it fixes something | 15:36 |
| immu | BluesKaj, hi | 15:45 |
| Cat_tech3 | does anyone know a different channel, where we might have luck finding someone | 15:47 |
| immu | for what? | 16:07 |
| baizon | Cat_tech3: i got a ryzen 5 and kernel 4.11 | 16:08 |
| Cat_tech3 | baizon: how are things running | 16:08 |
| Cat_tech3 | immu: talking about ryzen 7 cpu's and linux issues | 16:09 |
| baizon | Cat_tech3: everything is perfect | 16:09 |
| baizon | damn fast :) | 16:09 |
| Cat_tech3 | baizon: can you give us your full system specs | 16:09 |
| baizon | Cat_tech3: AMD Ryzen 5 1600X | Gigabyte GA-AB350M-Gaming 3 | Crucial Ballistix Sport LT8GB, DDR4-2400, CL16-16-16 | Samsung SSD 850 EVO 500GB | ASUS DUAL-RX-480-O4G | 16:10 |
| Cat_tech3 | version of ubuntu? | 16:11 |
| baizon | Cat_tech3: no ubuntu | 16:11 |
| baizon | thats why i have 4.11 kernel | 16:11 |
| Cat_tech3 | which distro | 16:11 |
| baizon | and thats why i dont use ubuntu, because i have such new hardware | 16:11 |
| baizon | Cat_tech3: Manjaro KDE | 16:11 |
| baizon | Client: HexChat 2.12.4 • OS: ManjaroLinux "Gellivara" 17.0.1 • CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600X Six-Core Processor (2,20GHz) • Memory: 7,6 GiB Total (5,9 GiB Free) • Storage: 1,4 TB / 2,1 TB (716,6 GB Free) • VGA: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Ellesmere [Radeon RX 470/480] @ Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Spectra8 CardB Input2 • Uptime: 38m 29s | 16:11 |
| Cat_tech3 | did you compile the kernel yourself? | 16:12 |
| baizon | Cat_tech3: nope | 16:12 |
| Cat_tech3 | very handy information baizon | 16:13 |
| Cat_tech3 | i am thrilled to know the same distro, how it will perform on a ryzen 7 cpu | 16:13 |
| Cat_tech3 | and funny you use 2400 ram :D | 16:13 |
| Cat_tech3 | which fixed it for that guy with his ryzen 7 issues | 16:14 |
| Cat_tech3 | might be a fix for the whole ryzen platform on linux | 16:14 |
| Cat_tech3 | 4.10+ kernel and 2400 mhz ram | 16:14 |
| baizon | well i did check the compatibility list, and also had to upgrade my bios first | 16:15 |
| baizon | with no upgrade i had very strange numbers with my cpu | 16:16 |
| Cat_tech3 | to the latest version? | 16:16 |
| Cat_tech3 | which bios version did you flash it to | 16:19 |
| baizon | Cat_tech3: from F1 to F4 | 16:25 |
| Cat_tech3 | are there any specific things you changed in the bios? | 16:27 |
| baizon | Cat_tech3: nope | 16:32 |
| Cat_tech3 | thank you very much for this info | 16:32 |
| Cat_tech3 | now we need someone with a ryzen 7 to test it :D | 16:37 |
| Cat_tech3 | baizon, when you said it gave you freaky numbers | 17:10 |
| Cat_tech3 | what kind | 17:10 |
| baizon | temp | 17:10 |
| baizon | for exmaple | 17:10 |
| baizon | it was at 70°C, but after the bios upgrade it was as smooth 32°C | 17:10 |
| Cat_tech3 | yes there was an issue with +20 difference sensor reporting | 17:11 |
| Cat_tech3 | have you checked dmesg output for any errors? | 17:11 |
| Cat_tech3 | after the fix | 17:11 |
| baizon | Cat_tech3: only this AMD-Vi: Event logged [IO_PAGE_FAULT device=09:00.0 domain=0x0003 address=0x000000f40040d600 flags=0x0010] | 17:13 |
| Cat_tech3 | baizon: https://askubuntu.com/questions/805008/errors-showing-while-booting-16-04-amd-vi-event-logged-io-page-fault | 17:14 |
| baizon | thanks :) | 17:15 |
| Cat_tech3 | baizon, care to join me on this journey to help get this big issue fixed sooner? | 17:29 |
| Cat_tech3 | i would recon thens of thousands are affected by this issue | 17:29 |
| immu | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ryzen-Compiler-Issues | 17:52 |
| Cat_tech3 | yes that's another issue | 17:52 |
| Cat_tech3 | but a lot of people can't even boot or run there system for a couple of hours | 17:52 |
| immu | did you try a upstream kernel | 17:55 |
| Cat_tech3 | it's not me that is having the issue | 18:00 |
| Cat_tech3 | i don't have a ryzen cpu | 18:01 |
| Cat_tech3 | altho i am in the process of ordering a new machine with one | 18:01 |
| Cat_tech3 | but this sortof stops me doing it | 18:01 |
| immu | BluesKaj, hi | 18:59 |
| BluesKaj | hi immu | 19:00 |
| immu | how are you doing BluesKaj | 19:00 |
| BluesKaj | ok here, and you? | 19:00 |
| immu | i am good too BluesKaj , so whats up | 19:13 |
| Cat_tech3 | f it, i am going intel | 19:22 |
| daftykins | XD | 19:23 |
| Cat_tech3 | 5820K 6 core 12 threads | 19:23 |
| Cat_tech3 | should run linux good enough | 19:23 |
| daftykins | that's a very poor choice to make at this point | 19:23 |
| daftykins | gotta run, laters | 19:24 |
| BluesKaj | Cat_tech3, probly better off with i3,i5, or i7 cpu | 19:24 |
| Cat_tech3 | the 5820K is i7 | 19:25 |
| Cat_tech3 | why is that a poor choice? | 19:25 |
| BluesKaj | dunno what daftykins meant by that comment | 19:26 |
| Cat_tech3 | it's either that or the i7 6800K 6core 12 threads | 19:28 |
| Cat_tech3 | yeah sticking with the 5820K, don't see any issues with that and running linux | 19:57 |
| === oerheks_ is now known as oerheks | ||
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