[04:29] good morning to all [04:29] morning lotuspsychje [04:29] hey EriC^^ [04:30] Hiya lotuspsychje ! Got your hip wadders on ? It may get deep in main :) [04:33] hey Bashing-om [04:33] lotuspsychje: Good day in the neighborhood :D [04:35] 2 days of work left [04:41] lotuspsychje: Then it is lotuscomputers full time ? [04:42] Bashing-om: nono, my boss has avoided confrontation [04:42] Bashing-om: so for now..the sea has calmed down [04:42] ? [04:42] EriC^^: yeah i was angry at my boss the other day [04:42] why? [04:42] EriC^^: he told me to go wipe the floor in de middle shift [04:43] EriC^^: and its always opening shift guy, that has to do it [04:43] oh [04:43] EriC^^: so i ran off, without looking back that day [04:43] did my hours and didnt wipe the floor lol [04:44] :D [04:44] so in 2 more days no more work? [04:44] for good? [04:44] EriC^^: no i mean 2 days in a row left to work [04:45] ill continue as long as i can EriC^^ [04:45] cause full time business costs too much for now [04:45] oh ok [04:45] EriC^^: lotuspsychje That ^ was wishful think'n :) [04:46] EriC^^: but lotuscomputers starts to run good [04:46] 4th invoice [04:46] nice [04:47] lotuspsychje: We look forward to the day ya get an apprentice :) [04:47] Bashing-om: whats apprentice mean [04:49] One that is learning .. he does the grunt work for ya; taking the load off you . [04:49] right [04:49] well 2 new ppl have applyed for the kitchen job [04:49] lets see what that gives.. [04:50] :P [04:53] :D [04:55] 4 jobs @ canonical [04:55] https://www.canonical.com/careers/all-vacancies [04:55] seems like they have trimmed a lot [04:56] lotuspsychje: Since convergence is no longer the goal, I guess one can expect "cuts" . [05:00] yeah [05:19] This is my backside headed to bed :) [06:11] laterz guys, work [06:11] have a nice sunday [06:43] hi all [13:52] Hi folks [13:54] heya \o [13:54] all well, BluesKaj? [13:56] hi daftykins, yeah except for my debian install which just kernel panicked [13:56] d'aww! [13:56] i wonder what that's about [13:56] no major updates or upgrades [13:59] hey BluesKaj, daftykins good to see ya, sorry to hit and run but i have to mow again before it gets way too hot. bbl... [14:00] dunno , may have to reinstall to / ... never had a kernel panick before and didn't pay much attention the workarounds or solutions when it happened to others [14:00] pauljw: enjoy! [14:01] panic even [14:02] assume it could be any number of things going wrong [14:02] hey daftykins BluesKaj [14:02] \o [14:02] how's it going? [14:02] BluesKaj: nothing in kernel logs? i'd probably be memtesting too o0 [14:02] hey EriC^^ [14:02] not bad here cheers, down at my house atm where the tiler is grouting the bathroom :) [14:03] cool [14:03] daftykins, it's on the same ssd as my kubuntu installation/dual boot [14:03] you're staying at home for good now? [14:04] EriC^^: nah i'm in a holiday cottage up at the hotel until the 16th [14:04] daftykins, remos still ongoing , nice :-) [14:04] there's nowhere to sleep, here :) every room is full of crap [14:04] renos even :-) [14:04] oh lord [14:04] hehe well i'd love to be finished but we uncovered too many surprises [14:04] and i'm spending too much :( [14:05] moneypit ? [14:07] property brothers ! [14:09] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Property_Brothers ...these guys are supposedly the answer to moneypit nightmares [14:10] if you have "the coin" [14:12] hehe [14:28] raining here, a good day to relax and muck about with the pc :-) [14:29] ooh yes, that they are [14:30] got all my yard work done the last few days so i deserve it [14:33] wife agrees, but wait til the weather clears, then she'll conjure up some tasks ...guaranteed :-) [14:34] XD such is the way with 'the management' [14:35] yup [14:55] hi guys [14:59] lo [15:00] i have difficulty trying to determine where i should ask this [15:00] but i am trying to build a new system with an amd ryzen 7 cpu and would like to have ubuntu on it [15:00] it has a 1050 ti gpu [15:01] so, what's the problem? things haven't *really* been smoothed out for Linux on most motherboards yet [15:02] i have both seen amd ryzen 7 linux systems [15:02] and 1050 ti i assume has better driver support [15:02] for linux [15:04] than what o0 [15:04] i'd definitely always go nvidia [15:05] would this support ubuntu you think? [15:06] the cpu+gpu combi [15:09] like i said Ryzen isn't ace on Linux yet, bit early [15:10] :( [15:11] ryzen works from kernel 4.10 and up, and that budget 1050 should work fine too [15:11] I have seen some users who had success wih ubuntu on the ryzen cpu..forgot which graphics they came with... presumably amd gpus [15:12] there are still some motherboards that go wildly bad on it, heard of MSI and gigabyte ones being odd [15:12] MSI is junk IME , on any OS [15:13] yipyip [15:13] GIGABYTE Aorus GA­AX370­Gaming 5 (rev. 1.0), [15:13] this is the mobo i wanted to go with it [15:13] but i see your note on being troublesome [15:13] in Canada they're distributed by what seems like the russian mafia [15:14] BluesKaj: XD [15:14] found this reddit : https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/6247wx/ubuntu_has_issues_installing_to_gigabyte_ryzen/ [15:17] picture might be a bit brighter come October when 17.10 will be out, assuming you'd risk non-LTS at all [15:19] is debian any better>\ [15:19] ? [15:19] no it's all about the Linux kernel [15:19] it's a platform issue :) [15:20] so none of us here have ryzen? [15:22] nah [15:25] we need a tester [15:25] hmm? i already said i've seen folks with issues [15:25] someone just noted that switching to slower ram fixed the issue [15:25] AMD only just pushed out a huge important BIOS update for manufacturer's to integrate into their motherboards [15:25] ryzen 7 has a ram speed maximum [15:25] everything has a maximum :P it got tweaked with the update i mention [15:26] yes but there was an article about a mobo update from AMD [15:26] that raised the maximum ram speed compatibility for the cpu [15:26] was at 3200 max normally [15:27] and i just read about the ryzen 7 x370 mobo + linux issue being solved by someone using slower ram (2400) [15:27] that's what i just said XD [15:28] and that makes no sense, slowing RAM for an OS [15:28] anyway, i've always been against Gigabyte :) [15:28] who knows why it works for him, i can think of one possibility [15:29] he tested it with 17.04 btw [15:32] it has the linux 4.10 kernel [15:33] https://superuser.com/questions/1189362/ryzen-7-unable-to-install-ubuntu-or-debian [15:33] like i said, October'd be a better goal [15:33] the guys who claims that he fixed the issue [15:33] i know, but i am willing to help people that are stuck already [15:34] i've not heard any issues with install, just panics and instability [15:34] i have read multiple people with installation issues [15:35] right, but dated when... :) [15:35] so a shout out to anybody in this room with a ryzen 7 or who knows somebody who does, please bring him/her in [15:36] or relay to test it with the 4.10 kernel and slower ram 2400 , to see if it fixes something [15:45] BluesKaj, hi [15:47] does anyone know a different channel, where we might have luck finding someone [16:07] for what? [16:08] Cat_tech3: i got a ryzen 5 and kernel 4.11 [16:08] baizon: how are things running [16:09] immu: talking about ryzen 7 cpu's and linux issues [16:09] Cat_tech3: everything is perfect [16:09] damn fast :) [16:09] baizon: can you give us your full system specs [16:10] Cat_tech3: AMD Ryzen 5 1600X | Gigabyte GA-AB350M-Gaming 3 | Crucial Ballistix Sport LT8GB, DDR4-2400, CL16-16-16 | Samsung SSD 850 EVO 500GB | ASUS DUAL-RX-480-O4G [16:11] version of ubuntu? [16:11] Cat_tech3: no ubuntu [16:11] thats why i have 4.11 kernel [16:11] which distro [16:11] and thats why i dont use ubuntu, because i have such new hardware [16:11] Cat_tech3: Manjaro KDE [16:11] Client: HexChat 2.12.4 • OS: ManjaroLinux "Gellivara" 17.0.1 • CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600X Six-Core Processor (2,20GHz) • Memory: 7,6 GiB Total (5,9 GiB Free) • Storage: 1,4 TB / 2,1 TB (716,6 GB Free) • VGA: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Ellesmere [Radeon RX 470/480] @ Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Spectra8 CardB Input2 • Uptime: 38m 29s [16:12] did you compile the kernel yourself? [16:12] Cat_tech3: nope [16:13] very handy information baizon [16:13] i am thrilled to know the same distro, how it will perform on a ryzen 7 cpu [16:13] and funny you use 2400 ram :D [16:14] which fixed it for that guy with his ryzen 7 issues [16:14] might be a fix for the whole ryzen platform on linux [16:14] 4.10+ kernel and 2400 mhz ram [16:15] well i did check the compatibility list, and also had to upgrade my bios first [16:16] with no upgrade i had very strange numbers with my cpu [16:16] to the latest version? [16:19] which bios version did you flash it to [16:25] Cat_tech3: from F1 to F4 [16:27] are there any specific things you changed in the bios? [16:32] Cat_tech3: nope [16:32] thank you very much for this info [16:37] now we need someone with a ryzen 7 to test it :D [17:10] baizon, when you said it gave you freaky numbers [17:10] what kind [17:10] temp [17:10] for exmaple [17:10] it was at 70°C, but after the bios upgrade it was as smooth 32°C [17:11] yes there was an issue with +20 difference sensor reporting [17:11] have you checked dmesg output for any errors? [17:11] after the fix [17:13] Cat_tech3: only this AMD-Vi: Event logged [IO_PAGE_FAULT device=09:00.0 domain=0x0003 address=0x000000f40040d600 flags=0x0010] [17:14] baizon: https://askubuntu.com/questions/805008/errors-showing-while-booting-16-04-amd-vi-event-logged-io-page-fault [17:15] thanks :) [17:29] baizon, care to join me on this journey to help get this big issue fixed sooner? [17:29] i would recon thens of thousands are affected by this issue [17:52] http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ryzen-Compiler-Issues [17:52] yes that's another issue [17:52] but a lot of people can't even boot or run there system for a couple of hours [17:55] did you try a upstream kernel [18:00] it's not me that is having the issue [18:01] i don't have a ryzen cpu [18:01] altho i am in the process of ordering a new machine with one [18:01] but this sortof stops me doing it [18:59] BluesKaj, hi [19:00] hi immu [19:00] how are you doing BluesKaj [19:00] ok here, and you? [19:13] i am good too BluesKaj , so whats up [19:22] f it, i am going intel [19:23] XD [19:23] 5820K 6 core 12 threads [19:23] should run linux good enough [19:23] that's a very poor choice to make at this point [19:24] gotta run, laters [19:24] Cat_tech3, probly better off with i3,i5, or i7 cpu [19:25] the 5820K is i7 [19:25] why is that a poor choice? [19:26] dunno what daftykins meant by that comment [19:28] it's either that or the i7 6800K 6core 12 threads [19:57] yeah sticking with the 5820K, don't see any issues with that and running linux === oerheks_ is now known as oerheks