[00:18] for all of you out there more knowledgeable than I am, if I had 5 computers that I wanted to ensure were online as much as possible, how could I set them up in a way that would notify me if and when one of them went down for any reason [00:18] ? [00:20] bumblefuzz: a 6th system running nagios set to yell at you when things go down and don't check in [00:24] teward, Full of win...spot on. [00:35] Hi, if I copy applications from my 16.04 partition to my 17.04 partition will there be any complications with upgrades etc? [00:36] aus_mal, what do you mean copy [00:37] i have limited internet so I copied application files from one root directory to the other [00:37] aus_mal, one version 16.04 is long term support, the other 17.04 is not [00:38] at this stage i just tried telegram desktop with it's desktop file which updated itself just fine. [00:38] aus_mal, thats a recipe for total disaster, find a loco or lug near you to burn an iso to usb for you [00:38] so I just want to know if I copy other applications will I be able to apt-get upgrade them like normal? [00:39] !loco | aus_mal [00:39] aus_mal: Information on Ubuntu Local Community Teams is at http://loco.ubuntu.com/ [00:39] aus_mal, no [00:39] aus_mal, never mix versions, nor the packages in those differing versions [00:39] I'm sorry, but why do I need to burn an iso to usb.. I had just clean installed 17.04 on another partition [00:40] aus_mal, you just said you had limited internet [00:40] aus_mal, do not copy 16.04 or whatever over to 17.04 [00:41] yes? [00:41] ok, got it.. I just thought they would be older versions of software [00:43] but what do I need the iso burned to usb for again? thanks [00:43] aus_mal, you said you had slow internet [00:44] I suggested you get someone to do it for you from a loco [00:44] oh, no I only want to get applications [00:45] Hello everyone [00:45] aus_mal, thats never the way to do it [00:46] ok, was hoping it was possible to save a bit of data, but no prob.. [00:46] thanks for your help [00:46] Does someone consider it self an expert on Thunderbird E-Mail application? I would really appreciate some help with a little doubt that pop-up today [00:52] Fenix_Peregrino, Ask the question, compadre. [00:58] Is this a good channel for asking for help with BASH shell script? [00:58] Moggie0042, #bash [00:59] Yeah... #bash has a few folks there...always a great place to "mosey" [00:59] ok thanks, I'll try to find my way there :) <--noob [01:00] Moggie0042, /join #bash [01:00] Thanks [01:29] is this channel active? [01:30] yup thechris [01:30] Um...is that a trick question? [01:40] sorry, I had asked a question in kubuntu, but there were no responses at all. [01:40] and nothing in this channel. [01:40] thechris: it's also the weekend, so it tends to be 'slower' in the channels [01:40] I wasn't sure if there was something wrong on my end. [01:40] you may wish to just ask your question. [01:41] it isn't desktop specific. Just trying to get ethernet working. [01:41] It is an odd question. last week the liveusb had working ethernet. then I installed *buntu. now neither have working ethernet. [01:41] There is an intel i219 and a killer e2400 [01:42] I have tried two ethernet cables with each. [01:42] It looks like the OS thinks I am transmitting data. [01:42] But I can't receive [01:43] I'm not sure if intel i219 is just not supported. It doesn't seem that new. [01:43] Version? (If you say 17.04, I'm going to go do laundry) [01:43] it is 17.04 -- is there a FAQ or announcement about this issue? [01:44] haha [01:44] oh lordy [01:47] thechris, you tried searching around on intel's site right [01:48] I didn't get that far. I was searching for dhcp issues until I noticed the lack of arp responses [01:49] and oddly, it only seems to have affected one port. [01:51] I'm still trying to resolve which article I should be looking for. There is one that might describe an issue, but it is kinda thin and doesn't exactly describe the issue. or is this issue just vt-x related? [01:51] have you tried " sudo ifconfig eth0 up "then " sudo dhclient eth0 " [01:51] thats what google says [01:53] thechris ^^ [01:53] ifconfig doens't exist for some reason. I guess it was replaced by "ip". I'll try dhclient, but if I can't even respond to arps I'm not too hopeful. [01:54] hm, try editing " /usr/lib/NetworkManager/conf.d/10-globally-managed-devices.conf " ( " sudo nano /usr/lib/NetworkManager/conf.d/10-globally-managed-devices.conf " ) [01:54] and make sure it contains something like: [01:54] [keyfile] [01:54] unmanaged-devices=*,except:type:ethernet,except:type:wifi,except:type:wwan [01:55] thechris ^^ [01:56] (i got no idea, this is what google says :p) [01:56] this also may shed some light on the issue [01:56] https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2356217 [01:58] Since there are two interfaces, I'll try plugging them together to see if either can both transmit and receive. [01:59] ok, looks like they can [02:00] and now my computer is trying to get two ip addresses from itself, making a fun blinking pattern in the attempt. [02:02] hmm well I have seen machines with two NICs that are multihomed [02:03] like they connect to two different LAN segments [02:04] That makes sense. I don't need to do that. I actually didn't expect the killer nic to even be supported. [02:05] I chose the motherboard based on what PCIe devices had conflicts with other ports. [02:06] right now I'm taking the "wait a bit and try again". I guess I have two things left to try, well three in the worst case. [02:06] Hello, when I do a cold boot of ubuntu server 17.04 without a keyboard, grub will do it's countdown for 30 seconds and bood. When I reboot the computer I get a black screen right after uefi splash screen. I now have to shut it down and start it again to get back into the OS. any idea what's going on and how I can fix that behavior ? [02:06] @snerge can you get to a virtual console at any point (ctrl+alt+f1) [02:07] (and f2-f6. f7 is the desktop) [02:07] This at least will let you log in and look at dmesg and any other logging [02:07] thechris, I don't have a keyboad on it but I doubt I could, I boot it with a usb drive where I've installed the light stops [02:08] I can't ssh/ping it. imho it get stucks at grub [02:08] did try multiple kernel parameters but nothing fixed this behavior. It only happends on reboot [02:09] but you can eventually get into the os? [02:09] no [02:09] I have to stop the computer [02:09] and start it again [02:09] this way I can get in [02:10] ah. do you have any access to the device? [02:10] physical you mean ? [02:10] basically, is there any way to look at logs that might be helpful in finding the next thing to look for? [02:11] since it doesn't boot at all I don't know what logs I could look at [02:11] Perhaps attaching a keyboard or booting into a liveUSB environment [02:11] Hi, everyone [02:12] @snerge, I don't know anything about your issue, I'm just offering general debugging advice. [02:12] hi, pq13 [02:15] thanks thechris but since it doesn't even load grub, I don't think this would help [02:15] tryed to plug a keyboard but nothing more happens [02:18] I still curious about 17.04 and if there is some perception that it is flakey or doesn't support ethernet or i219 or etc... [02:19] Because the post after my problem made it seem like this was common. [02:34] I have a question. How come Ubuntu uses non-lts kernels for it's lts releases? === r0Oter is now known as r00ter [02:37] !hwe | Sarah_Swe [02:37] Sarah_Swe: The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack [02:41] Oh wow. That's dumber than I thought it ever would be. Oh well. [02:53] ok, I'm out of ideas. Anyone know how to get more info on debugging ethernet? [02:53] I have two interfaces that can transmit according to the OS. [02:53] I'm using one at a time. [02:53] Neither can receive [02:54] Unless they are connected to each other. [02:54] However a week ago this was not an issue. [02:55] this is an intel i219 and a killer e2400 on 17.04 [02:56] thechris, just wondering, what mobo is it [02:56] You'll have to expand a bit more, neither can receive ? [02:57] this is an evga 270 ftw mobo. When I attempt to send data from another computer connected to the switch I don't see any increase in stats. [02:58] I have also tried two different ethernet cables. [02:58] apache2.conf seems to be now consuming env variables set elsewhere. i appreciate this all being in once place. it would be nice if someone told me where they are. [02:58] i spoke too soon. /etc/apache2/envvars [02:59] Although, maybe arp packets can't get to the computer for some other reason. [02:59] windows for some reason doesn't allow "ping 255.255.255.255" [03:00] or if that would actually work with the switch... [03:01] It looks like both of those NICs require some additional setup [03:02] do you have a link for this? === Piece_Maker is now known as Acou_Bass [03:05] https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2356217 [03:07] I looked at that earlier. The NVM message doesn't appear. [03:07] I've also turned off VT-x and VT-d per intel suggestion [03:07] and it is really weird that the issue occurs for both interfaces. [03:08] The killernic one uses some atheros driver that is likely wrong in the distro as well [03:09] hmm, ok. I didn't really expect that one to work. [03:09] although it is so weird that they both have the exact same issue. [03:09] oh, and also a week ago the intel one worked with the liveUSB. [03:10] Did you update the e1000e driver to a 3.x version ? [03:11] how do I check what is in 17.04 [03:11] I was just looking at the lack of the error message. [03:12] ethtool -i eth0 (or whatever your nic is called) [03:14] hold on. switching to the intel now results in "hardware hang" in dmesg [03:14] I'll have to reboot. [03:18] I sometimes wish OS's would just install every network debugging tool and not try to pinch every MB out of the install disk. [03:18] ethtool isn't installed... [03:19] so, if I had network support I could find out why I don't have network support. [03:19] Try /sbin/modinfo e1000e [03:20] 3.2.6-k [03:22] I wish I had windows so I at least would have something to compare this against. [03:22] You sure you don't have the NVM checksum is not valid in your dmesg ? [03:22] That is what every single post I'm reading says about that card|driver [03:24] yeah. dmesg | grep -i nvm give only lines with "nvme" [03:25] oh, I have laptop with a working ethernet interface. new debugging tool! [03:26] Well, I'd still do some testing on that. build and install the newest 3.3.5.3 from intel, If that doesn't work then apply that patch and rebuild [03:27] thechris: "I have laptop with a working ethernet interface." can you ping machine A ? [03:28] I'd have to set up a static interface, but I'll try that [03:28] I think just issueing a ping should send ARPs though. [03:28] hello my wirelles connected but can't browsing https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/X3WFVPvA/P70604-102852.jpg [03:28] ubuntu 17.04 [03:29] @senaa, can you browse the URL from another device? Can you browse other URLs from this device? [03:30] thechris: another device Smoothly [03:30] does mount only support one location per IP? or can I mount several folders from the same IP? [03:30] senaa: Can you ping an IP address like 8.8.8.8 ? I heard 17.04 has some DNS issues [03:30] @Bashing-om, I'm starting to think it is the wifi router actually. [03:31] yes i get reply when i ping 8.8.8.8 [03:31] I see incrementing Tx/Rx packets when I plug my laptop in. [03:31] thechris: my thought , reboot the router :) [03:31] @Bashing-om, done twice... [03:31] It's so weird -- this worked a week ago! [03:31] ok edit your /etc/resolv.conf file and add in nameserver 8.8.8.8 [03:32] kenrin: ok wait , after that ? [03:33] After that try another webpage [03:33] @slicepaperwords, for nfs? You should be able to mount any number of folders from any number of locations. [03:33] I used to do that for having public/private shares. [03:34] kenrin : like this ? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/t9CLZw1U/P70604-103536.jpg [03:35] Put it above your other 127 line [03:35] I'm trying to mount several folders on my synology onto my ubuntu server but it seems to only want to connect to one at a time, soon as I run mount for the next folder that is the only one that works [03:36] kenrin : wow work thank you https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/KKvBX4Hm/irccloudcapture979517096.jpg [03:36] do you get any error message, anything in dmesg, or anything in any other logs. [03:36] (I need to find out what system logging is used in ubuntu...) [03:38] in ubuntu already installed driver amd ? [03:39] Not sure, you can use "dpkg -l amdgpu-pro" to check [03:39] thechris, huh I was facing that last night but don't seem to be facing the same issue today [03:40] kenrin: no packages how to install ? [03:40] @slicepaperwords, you've stolen my karma. My network worked last week, but not today. [03:41] j/k [03:41] ha sorry [03:42] senaa: support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDGPU-PRO-Install.aspx [03:42] I do not think they have release one fully for 17 yet though, so it may not work correctly [03:43] senaa: amdgpu-PRO only supports the later cards . [03:44] That is true, I did not ask what card [03:45] senaa: http://theleftcoastgeek.net/index.php/categories/12-possible-amdgpu-pro-supported-gpus-by-the-end . Your card on the list ? [03:52] i have my desktop setup with x11vnc. i want it to pick up my existing local session when i rdp into the desktop from my windows laptop. i found some info on setting the port to be constant to pick up previous rdp sessions, but how do i get the existing local session? === Piece_Maker is now known as Acou_Bass [03:56] Does vnc even work that like jnewt? I thought it recreated the graphics locally [03:56] oh x11, nvm [03:57] idk, i need to look now that you mentioned it, i think i might be connecting to something called xrdp. anyway, i have an unsaved file in my session on my desktop. i need to remote to the machine to save it. [03:59] ok, Im connecting to xrdp [04:01] Bashing-om: ok wait [04:01] Hi I'm getting this issue on my Ubuntu remove server "sudo: /etc/sudoers is owned by uid 1000, should be 0 [04:01] " [04:02] I am in sooders list but Im nto sure why I cannot even pruge ap ackage an i was jsut able to update the pakackages how to fix? [04:02] Bashing-om: the website cannot access [04:02] tigervnc has session reco built-in which I use, No idea about tigervncserver that ubuntu uses by default =/ [04:02] er, tightvncserver I mean [04:03] senaa: Me too , maybe the site is down . lemme check . [04:06] Bashing-om: my card amd radeon r5 [04:07] senaa: Working on the leftcoastgeek site presently :) [04:07] uxfi: I think you'll have to boot into recover mode and chown root:root /etc/sudoers [04:07] sudo: /etc/sudoers is owned by uid 1000, should be 0 [04:07] kenrin I can go to visudo... [04:07] why recovery mode? [04:07] Oh, just change the owner then [04:07] pkexec visudo [04:07] as root? [04:08] well im the only user [04:08] hm [04:08] kenrin it prompts me for a password and i entered it but it didnt work. I made a new user a wole ago and wanted it to be root but I deleted that [04:08] so how to fix? [04:09] Well, if you can't sudo because the sudoers is broken... back to recovery mode [04:09] senaa: Pastebin ' lspci -vnn | grep -i VGA ' so I get a better ID that I can recognize . [04:10] sudo: /etc/sudoers is owned by uid 1000, should be 0 [04:10] how? [04:13] sudo: /etc/sudoers is owned by uid 1000, should be 0 [04:13] what od I do? [04:13] Do you have physical access to get to grub? You said it was remote [04:13] uhh [04:13] its a rmeote server [04:14] kenrin I dotn think its that severe I can reach sudo [04:14] and I was jsut at visudo [04:14] remote server. dont* [04:14] so what do I do? [04:15] Ask whoever hosts your server to fix it [04:15] Bashing-om: wait [04:15] kenrin I host it... [04:15] You didnt read? [04:15] it is my remote host [04:16] You host it, but you don't have physical access to boot into recovery mode? [04:16] how would I do that? [04:16] why do I need recovery mode? [04:17] do you own the server? or have you rented or bought it online? [04:17] uxfi: talk to your host. [04:17] Maybe icherry can explain better, but you need to change the owner of that file back to root (uid 0) [04:17] iscuss [04:17] I am the host [04:17] I had help here before but this wasnt the problem [04:17] Then reboot in single user mode & fix the issue. [04:17] Bashing-om: pastebin.com/4xqmfLhS [04:17] https://askubuntu.com/questions/291248/recovering-sudo-recovering-root-ownership-on-system-directories-how-possible [04:18] uxfi, do you have access to the hardware? or is it rented online (vps) ??? [04:18] vps [04:19] ask the people you rented it from to fix it [04:19] or use the console access (if they provide it) [04:20] uxfi: what's the problem? [04:20] I fixxed it I think [04:20] pkexec chown root:root -R /etc [04:20] senaa: What graphics card ? ^^ "VGASnoop- ParErr-: also makes me think graphics driver . [04:20] abut before it said i wasnt on the suoders list [04:20] EriC^^ Im getting an error [04:20] EriC^^ sudo: /etc/sudoers is owned by uid 1000, should be 0 [04:21] aha [04:21] Hello. [04:21] seems to be fixed now.. [04:21] how do I tet its working again EriC^^ / [04:21] i can send you a template of my perms [04:21] uxfi: which ubuntu version is it? [04:21] 16.04 [04:21] LTS [04:21] like mine [04:22] EriC^^ how do I test its working/ [04:22] Good morning [04:22] seems to be working ok [04:22] hello yuui-tanabe [04:22] https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/nyBdmW4H/irccloudcapture-1876586101.jpg [04:22] uxfi: http://termbin.com/54fv [04:23] Bashing-om: pastebin.com/L8sH56rl [04:23] EriC^^ too long [04:23] uxfi: type wget -O /tmp/perms http://termbin.com/54fv && sudo setfacl --restore=/tmp/perms [04:23] but I think I fixed it [04:23] uxfi: it's better to use mine cause not everything is root:root [04:23] EriC^^ Let me share mine [04:23] hold on [04:23] can I share mine? [04:23] I want to make a source-based package manager for ubuntu. please give me some advice. [04:23] for instance /etc/shadow should be root:shadow [04:23] hold on [04:24] yes well [04:24] uxfi: just use mine [04:24] im the only user [04:24] why/ [04:24] ? [04:24] why not? [04:24] because it is my machine and I dont like any foreign fiels and i jsut asked a simple question for permissions. how does that ranslate to using someones permision file? [04:24] translate* [04:25] uxfi: you screwed up the permissions, you have 2 options reinstall, or download an iso and use the files there as a template, your choice [04:25] I fixed it now I think [04:25] right [04:26] I did sudo apt-get pruge with no errors [04:27] i'd get an iso and use it [04:27] uxfi try doing this: [04:27] http://paste.ubuntu.com/24768054/ [04:27] or load another vm and run "sudo getfacl -pRn /etc > /tmp/perms" to get the file i gave you [04:27] senaa: Dual graphics , do not know them ! .. but ya want ampgpu driver(s): https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Amdgpu . [04:30] works iCherry ! [04:30] thanks [04:31] so i broke xrdp and i need to get to my local session. i can ssh to my computer (from my windows laptop). can anyone help me get my to my desktops local session? [04:31] thanks so much [04:32] jnewt1: is it set to autorun? [04:33] EriC^^, I haven't messed with this in so long, i don't know [04:33] jnewt1: try cat /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf [04:34] cat: /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf: No such file or directory [04:36] there's a /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d, nothing in it [04:40] EriC^^: jnewt1 xubuntu 16.04 -here - does not use the /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf either . [04:40] jnewt1: from ssh try sudo service lightdm restart [04:41] EriC^^, successfully ran [04:41] jnewt1: did you get your users desktop? [04:41] or login screen? [04:42] no, still can't connect via rdp client. [04:43] how is lightdm related to xrdp? [04:45] jnewt1: i think lightdm launches it [04:45] xrdp is the music client no> [04:45] ? [04:45] xrdp is running (several instances from ps aux | grep xrdp) . it's the remote desktop server [04:46] i'm trying to remote desktop to this computer to save a file i had open when i was local. [04:52] jnewt1: oh [04:52] what does it say when you try to login? [04:53] EriC^^, doesn't get that far [04:58] i tried x11vnc, but it says that XOpenDisplay failed (:0) === marquezini is now known as _Xor [05:07] jnewt1: maybe it's stalled? [05:07] jnewt1: what did you have open? [05:08] severalthings, but liteide is the one i need to get to [05:09] jnewt1: hook up a monitor to it? [05:09] i am not local, i can't [05:09] is liteide still running? [05:09] yes [05:11] maybe this helps somehow? https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/78103/cant-start-x11vnc-without-attached-monitor [05:12] jnewt1: if nothing else works and you need the stuff so badly you can always get them from the memory in /proc but it'll be a lot of mumbo jumbo as well cause of the stuff the liteide program adds [05:12] (just throwing the option out there fwiw) [05:14] jnewt1: this has alot more info https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2067287 [05:40] https://pastebin.com/qdES4SQT -- what the heck is going on here? [06:02] hey all [06:17] for some reason, my CPU seems to be throttling down to 350 MHz [06:17] (yes, MHz) [06:34] Some_Person: intel? google speedstep that's normal [06:34] aeon-ltd: I don't think it's normal for a 2.5 GHz processor to go all the way down to 350 MHz [06:35] a modern i7 no less [06:35] mine is 3.4ghz it's around 0.78 ghz right now [06:35] It is if you aren't using it. [06:35] ...but I am using it? and it's being very sluggish? [06:35] Reduces power consumption [06:35] hi rohan_flag0 [06:36] uxfi: hi! [06:36] then it's for heat reasons? [06:36] it's at 50C [06:36] Laptop or a desktop? [06:36] laptop [06:36] Does it do that always or just if plugged in [06:37] I don't think it does it when I have it plugged into the dock at work, but it is doing it plugged into the adapter I have at home [06:38] this is what happens just launching firefox btw: http://i.imgur.com/PizP6YG.png [06:39] there is no way that's normal [06:40] why not? [06:40] ...because launching a web browser shouldn't bring a higher end CPU to its knees? [06:41] it's not to it's knees though [06:41] Looks quite normal. [06:41] knees would be all cpu 100 for some time, meaning no other processes can take place [06:41] Try something hard hitting like benchmark or compiling something huge. [06:42] it froze twice during that time (window went gray) [06:42] now that would not be normal [06:42] Some_Person: have you tried fresh firefox with no addons? [06:42] I'll gladly run a benchmark if you can give me one [06:44] There are quite a few onlinem even a JavaScript benchmark should do. [06:44] It looks to me like your power governer is conservative. [06:45] Can you give me something not involving a web browser? I want to show that this isn't an addon issue or anything dumb like that [06:46] Hmm. Try sysbench [06:49] okay, running sysbench --test=cpu run [06:51] Just look at system monitor with it running. [06:51] Should be stressing out the CPUs [06:52] https://pastebin.com/fVmiBGLq [06:52] what is ram usage in ubuntu gnome [06:53] I ran the same benchmark on my macbook pro, it completed in about 10 seconds [06:55] 105 seconds looks quite high. [06:56] Does anyone know a chatroom for support of Inkscape? #inkscape is quite dead. [06:56] Do you have lmt or something similar installed? [06:57] system monitor while running this benchmark: http://i.imgur.com/VDCTg60.png [06:57] lmt? [06:57] Laptop mode tools. [06:58] Try with --num-threads=8 [06:58] Looks like it was only using one CPU core. [06:59] my MBP was also only using one thread [06:59] Some_Person: was just about to ask you that. [07:00] 105s for single thread is quite high nonetheless [07:01] 8 threads: https://pastebin.com/3QvHeF1G and http://i.imgur.com/LffMMy3.png [07:02] an i7 should definitely be doing better than this, it's got to be because of the severe underclock [07:03] cpu info: https://pastebin.com/GmK28zJ5 [07:04] Definately underclocked [07:06] so........ wtf?! [07:07] It's mostly lmt / battery saver modei guess [07:08] what should I do? [07:09] Can anyone here help me with Inkscape? I'm trying to save as DXF and having issues. [07:10] jrshaul: sorry dude. Donno anything about inkscape [07:11] No worries. #inkscape is dead as a doornail. [07:11] I wonder if this or my old P3 box at this point is faster :P [07:11] Some_Person: Lemme see. I'm stuck on it being a Power saver mode cause you say docking it makes it go faster [07:11] Btw what's the CPU core temps? [07:12] https://pastebin.com/yyKz2mum [07:13]