[01:51] <croz> i accidentally removed the menu panel at the bottom of the window. how do i add it back?
[02:16] <croz> ?
[02:45] <EldonMcGuinness> croz: The entire panel or just the application launcher?
[03:11] <fuze> i just updated to kubuntu 16.04 to 17.04  and now the keyboard shortcut for the application launcher must be held down instead of a single press. how can I get it so I can just toggle the menu with a keyboard shortcut?
[03:19] <EldonMcGuinness> I would have thought it would be under shortcuts some where but not seeing it
[03:20] <ahoneybun> held down
[03:20] <ahoneybun> ?
[03:21] <ahoneybun> you can right click the launcher then Application Launcher Settings
[03:21] <fuze> i used to be apple to press the key and the window would stay there. now if i press the key the widget appears and then goes away when i release my finger off the shortcut key
[03:21] <fuze> able*
[03:23] <EldonMcGuinness> perhaps try this https://bucharjan.cz/blog/plasma-custom-modifier-only-shortcuts.html
[03:24] <ahoneybun> well pressing the key should just open it up
[03:28] <fuze> if i set it to the meta key can the meta (windows) key still be used for keyboard shortcuts (such as Meta + Tab)
[03:28] <croz> EldonMcGuinness, the entire menubar at the bottom is gone where I could click my shortcuts, displayed the time, and see what apps were open.
[03:29] <fuze> croz: you deleted the panel
[03:29] <fuze> just make a new one
[03:29] <croz> how do i do that?
[03:29] <fuze> right click on the desktop > add panel
[03:29] <croz> ah there we go
[03:30] <croz> HOLY SHIT it fixed the small resolution too by doing that. i was stuck with a small ass menu bar since i have 4k display and now it's bigger.
[03:30] <croz> thanks!
[03:31] <fuze> you can adjust the size of the menu bar (panel) by clicking the wrench in the corner and dragging the height button in the middle. no problem
[03:41] <croz> you the man fuze!
[03:41] <croz> thanks
[03:43] <fuze> ahoneybun: EldonMcGuinness: so it appears that adjusting the keyboard shortcut for the app launcher fixed my issue and after some research i found this: since KDE 5.8 setting the launcher to keyboard the keyboard shortcut which I believe is now the default, Alt + F1, the Meta (windows) key will automatically open the app launcher
[04:08] <EldonMcGuinness> very cool
[04:08] <EldonMcGuinness> glad you got it fixe fuze
[04:19] <wt> I am running the kde plasma5 under wayland. There are a number of little issues, but it's mostly working. Is there any reasonable way to get ssh-agent to run on login?
[04:31] <EldonMcGuinness> Something like this perhaps: https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Ssh-agent_KDE_Wallet
[04:31] <EldonMcGuinness> I thought about doing myself, but it is just easier for me to type the passwords I use atm.
[04:52] <valorie> wt: depends on what ssh-agent is
[04:52] <valorie> if it's a service run by systemd, then you need to turn it on there
[04:52] <valorie> otherwise, you can do that in systemsettings > autostart
[04:53] <valorie> !ssh
[04:54] <valorie> aha, thanks for that link, EldonMcGuinness
[04:54] <EldonMcGuinness> np
[04:54] <valorie> that shows how to do it step by step
[04:54] <valorie> wt: did you see that?
[04:55] <valorie> !info ksshaskpass
[04:55] <valorie> so that will need adding
[04:56] <EldonMcGuinness> yup
[04:57] <EldonMcGuinness> one of the reasons I was like meh
[04:58] <valorie> I remember setting that up in windows, long ago
[04:59] <valorie> i no longer have a website I work on
[04:59] <valorie> which is what I used it for
[04:59] <EldonMcGuinness> I have to admit, in gnome it just asked if I wanted to save the pass to my keyring and it just worked.
[04:59] <EldonMcGuinness> Maybe it will get that way here
[04:59] <valorie> if someone wants to make it so, sure
[05:00] <EldonMcGuinness> If I understand it correctly, this way needs your password again after logging in which just seems redundant.
[05:01] <valorie> once
[05:01] <valorie> basically to get the handshake in there
[05:01] <valorie> as I recall
[05:02] <EldonMcGuinness> Just seems that unlocking the keychain would be done when you authenticate to login
[07:08] <sneha> dsf
[08:46] <user|81017> need some assistance with kubuntu 17.04
 what's the issue?
[08:48] <renn0xtk9> what is the command to execute when willing to upgrade form 16.04 to 17.04
[08:48] <user|81017> Software center has disappeared.  Happened during updates.
 16.04 -> 17.04 direct upgardes are not supported. you have to upgrade to 16.10, then to 17.04
[08:54] <user|81017> can anyone help me?
 you'll need to explain more what updates you mean, and what you mean by dissapear
[08:57] <user|81017> ok well if anyone sees this and decides to answer...During updates of fresh install kubuntu 17.04, software center disappeared.
 what updates, from where?
[08:59] <user|81017> Ah. Installed 17.04, Software Center showed there to be updates to install then during updates it crashed and now does not exist. I do not know what updates. I didnt read every updates there. there were 138 of them.
 open konsole and try 'sudo apt install plasma-discover'
[09:03] <user|81017> Thanks. I'm fairly new to this, yet still I feel less than adequate for not thinking about just reinstalling it from terminal.
[09:05] <user|81017> So now discover shows 328 updates and is freezing. Any alternatives to Software center?
[09:06] <acheronuk> just do 'sudo apt full-upgrade' in the terminal
[09:06] <acheronuk> and upgrade the old fashioned way if what it proposes to do seems ok
[09:08] <user|81017> Thanks again.
[09:09] <renn0xtk9> so how to upgrade 16.04>17.10?
[09:09] <acheronuk> personally, I always fall back to old fashioned apt for any large numbers of suggested upgrades. less to go wrong
[09:09] <acheronuk> renn0xtk9: upgrade to 16.10, then to 17.04.
[09:10] <acheronuk> or do a clean install
[09:10] <user|81017> Good point. Only reason I even messed with discover is to find new software.
[09:11] <renn0xtk9> acheronuk  what is the command to issue?
[09:11] <renn0xtk9> i do-release-upgrade
[09:12] <renn0xtk9> it says no new release found
[09:13] <acheronuk> renn0xtk9: that is because by default, the LTS release are set to upgrade only to the next LTS
[09:13] <acheronuk> run 'sudo software-properties-kde'
[09:14] <acheronuk> and change the release upgrade setting to normal, like: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YakketyUpgrades/Kubuntu?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=snapshot5b.png
[09:16] <renn0xtk9> alternative question are there still backports on LTS? my final goal is in fact to get the latest Kdevelop
[09:17] <acheronuk> or set Prompt=normal in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[09:17] <acheronuk> renn0xtk9: yes, latest kdevelop has been built for 16.04. just not copied to backports yet
[09:20] <renn0xtk9> acheronuk, how to activate the backports in 16.04/
[09:21] <acheronuk> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[09:22] <acheronuk> will get a LOT of updates doing that!
[09:25] <renn0xtk9> hmm okay but still no kdevelop 5 I fI get it right :S https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports/+index?batch=75&memo=225&start=225
[09:25] <acheronuk> yes, I said it's not been copied to backports yet
[09:26] <acheronuk> see: https://launchpad.net/~kdevelop/+archive/ubuntu/release
[09:26] <acheronuk> built against backports ppa for Xenial, so may require it
[09:28] <renn0xtk9> and in 17.04 it's in?
[09:29] <acheronuk> 17.04 has kdevelop 5.0.4. with 5.1.1 to land in backports ppa soon
[09:30] <acheronuk> or is in that kdevelop ppa now
[09:31] <acheronuk> renn0xtk9: gotta go for now. hope you get what you want one way or the other :)
[10:36] <user|93564> does anyone know the comm.and line for installing startup disk creator? need to make a bootable usb on kubuntu 17
[10:42] <user|93564> Or can someone walk me through creating a bootUSB so i can install mint and get out of kubuntu?
[10:50] <user|93564> ok can anyone tell me how to format usb drive on kubuntu 17
[10:50] <jussi> user|93564: sudo apt-get install usb-creator-kde
[11:57] <nmrp3> hi - on upgrading my laptop to latest ubuntu, I've lost wlan0
[11:57] <nmrp3> so no wireless
[12:00] <nmrp3> the device is listed under lspci
[12:07] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[14:23] <nmrp3> Still no joy getting my wireless going :( Looked in the driver management app but it isn't finding a driver for my wifi card
[14:33] <BluesKaj> nmrp3, it would help if you gave us some info about the wifi chip and if it worked previously etc
[14:35] <nmrp3> BluesKaj: I was running 16.04, and upgraded to 17.04 -- it worked in 16.04 and in 16.10 while I did the 17.04 upgrade
[14:35] <nmrp3> Realtek RTL8723BE PCIe Wireless Network Adaptor
[14:36] <nmrp3> wired networking over eth0 works
[14:44] <BluesKaj> nmrp3, install firmware-realtek
[14:45] <nmrp3> BluesKaj: "unable to locate package firmware-realtek"
[14:48] <nmrp3> which apt source should be providing that? I have 9 firmware- packages, none of which are realtek
[14:51] <BluesKaj> nmrp3, I misread, that firmware is for debian, not kubuntu , google-fu isn't providing much info for the chip on 17.04
[14:53] <nmrp3> a laptop without wireless is a brick :(
[14:55] <nmrp3> I don't particularly want to roll back to 16.10
[15:06] <acheronuk> !wifi
[15:07] <acheronuk> nmrp3: very likely a general ubuntu issue rather than kubuntu specific, so maybe you can ask a more general audience on #ubuntu ? And/or the ubuntu forums or askubuntu?
[15:09] <BluesKaj> very poor info about the required driver for that chip
[15:10] <BluesKaj> looks like it may have to be compiled from source
[15:11] <acheronuk> perhaps. wireless drivers used to be a complete PITA. now it's unusual to find a chip that needs much more than a few tweaks
[16:34] <borw3> I recently installed kubuntu, and trying to find the update manager, but can't find it like it is in ubuntu
[17:32] <Jordan1717> test
[18:20] <vampire1> .
[19:50] <Oderus> Hello. I've replaced the sddm icons for breeze-slider theme and when I boot up they do not appear. However, when i run sddm-greeter from terminal, they do appear. Any ideas?