[00:00] <Latrina> so disklabel will bring a profit but sendboxed environment will not
[00:00] <Latrina> makes sense
[03:30] <pynki> hi guys, i have a postfix running that cannot send mails to outlook.com email adresses. i migrated the server from debian jessie where the same config it worked well. it sends mails to gmail without problems. any ideas/suggestions?
[04:03] <fishcooker> what's the smtp error code pynki... it would be better stay tune to the postfix channel
[04:07] <pynki> [....] , relay=mx2.hotmail.com[104.44.194.237]:25, delay=2, delays=0.98/0.02/0.43/0.58, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250  <4ad682e6-cc80-a2f8-aeb0-d47b76b45619@someaddress.com> Queued mail for delivery)
[04:07] <pynki> it shows me a 250 in the mail.log. its strange
[08:50] <SupaYoshi> Hi, I tried upgrading from Ubuntu 12.04 LTS to 16.04, to 14.04 worked fine, but now I'm stuck with a broken apt-get / dpkg
[08:51] <SupaYoshi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24781720/
[09:08] <Ben64> upgrade didn't complete
[09:09] <SupaYoshi> mhm
[09:09] <SupaYoshi> so what shall i do?
[09:09] <Ben64> i'd reinstall
[09:10] <SupaYoshi> kay x
[09:11] <SupaYoshi> i;ve got a lot of custom configs and so :P i'd rather upgrade
[09:11] <SupaYoshi> i made a backup before going to 14.04
[09:12] <SupaYoshi> might restore the backup and tehn upgrade to 14.04 again
[09:12] <SupaYoshi> and then remove php5
[09:12] <Ben64> well you can try to go through your sources and all the packages that aren't correct
[09:12] <SupaYoshi> cus that seems to be the cuprit?
[09:12] <SupaYoshi> libapache2-mod-php5 is the package going wrong
[09:12] <Ben64> why would it be php
[09:12] <SupaYoshi> when i do upgraed, it tries to process that package, and that errors out.
[09:13] <SupaYoshi> also when autoremove or any
[09:13] <Ben64> whats in your sources
[09:16] <SupaYoshi> em a lot
[09:16] <Ben64> well that's helpful
[09:18] <SupaYoshi> lol its hard to copy the entire content to pastebin
[09:31] <SupaYoshi> Im just going to restore my backup to 12.04 upgrade to 14.04
[09:32] <SupaYoshi> backup again and remove php5 and then install 16.04
[09:32] <fallentree> SupaYoshi: sounds like it'd be easier to just back up data, and install 16.04.02 fresh new
[09:33] <ogra_> how exactly did you upgrade ... the switch from upstart (14.04) to systemd (16.04) is pretty complex and can only properly be handled by update-manager (there are package removals of essential bits that need to be handled etc)
[09:39] <SupaYoshi> hi ogra_, i first dist dist-upgrade to 14.04 lts from 12.04.3 lts
[09:39] <SupaYoshi> that went fine
[09:40] <ogra_> you mean you didnt use update-manager ?
[09:40] <SupaYoshi> after that completed, i ran dist-upgrade again from 14.04 to 16.04 without any apt-get upgrades in between
[09:40] <SupaYoshi> that proballuy casued it.
[09:40] <SupaYoshi> I never use a gui, or update-manager, I just use apt-get upgrade.
[09:41] <ogra_> well, if you dont use update-manager you will end up having to do the exact same steps it does to remove packages from the essntial set.... in the end you will have ot do exactly the same just by hand, so i'd just go with it
[09:42] <SupaYoshi> ?
[09:42] <SupaYoshi> so what do you suggest me doing ogra_
[09:42] <ogra_> switching out the init system underneath a runnig system is pretty non-trivial and cant easily just be handled by package dependencies ... there are manual steps involved
[09:42] <ogra_> SupaYoshi, to always use update-manager when upgrading release to release ...
[09:43] <ogra_> like all server docs suggest ;)
[09:43] <ogra_> (note that this also the only upgrade path that gets extensive testing by the QA team)
[09:47] <SupaYoshi> sudo do-release-upgrade = not using the upgrade manager?
[09:47] <SupaYoshi> sudo apt-get upgrade = not using the upgrade manager?
[09:47] <ogra_> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/installing-upgrading.html
[09:48] <SupaYoshi> yeah thats what i done./
[09:48] <ogra_> using do-release-upgrade ? not plain apt ?
[09:50] <SupaYoshi> nope do-release-upgrade yes
[09:50] <SupaYoshi> from 12.04 to 14.04 worked fine
[09:50] <SupaYoshi> then i went to 16.04
[09:50] <SupaYoshi> and then that dpkg error came up
[09:51] <ogra_> weird ... you said above you had issues with php5 ... but update-manager should have removead all traces of php5 ...
[09:51] <SupaYoshi> YEah and I think it did except for that one instance of apache php5.
[09:51] <ogra_> (there is no php5 in 16.04 anymore)
[09:51] <ogra_> that sounds surely like an update-manager bug then
[09:51] <SupaYoshi> how do i do , do-release-upgrade without all the silly changelogs and so?
[09:52] <ogra_> changelogs ?
[09:52] <SupaYoshi> because it took ages reading the changelogs yesterday,
[09:52] <SupaYoshi> chanlogs
[09:52] <SupaYoshi> during the upgrade, it was like... reading changelogs 1%... 4%  took ages?
[09:52]  * ogra_ never had changelogs when upgrading with do-release-upgrade
[09:52] <ogra_> you mean it shows them ?
[09:53] <SupaYoshi> well no, but i just dont see the point in it "reading changlogs" if it just has to upgrade
[09:54] <ogra_> are you sure it said "changelogs" ?
[09:54] <SupaYoshi> ill let you know upgrading to 14.04 now
[09:55] <SupaYoshi> this server has been running 12.04 lts since august 2013, no issues
[09:55] <SupaYoshi> so i never wanted to upgrade the release incase of problems
[09:55] <SupaYoshi> but since i've made a backup now i'm feeling safe and its the end of support so yeah
[09:55] <ogra_> (there is indeed no need to read any changelog entries, it processes *changes* and needs to handle removals, dropping (and rolling back) PPAs and such but doing any processing of changelogs shouldnt happen)
[09:56] <ogra_> in any case, if you use do-release-upgrade and run into a broken system afterwards, please file a bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+filebug
[09:57] <ogra_> (and always make sure to have the latest update-manager-coore installed before running it ... from ${release}-updates)
[09:57] <SupaYoshi> okay cool
[09:57] <SupaYoshi> so ogra, when im on 14.04
[09:58] <SupaYoshi> do i first do, apt-get upgrade
[09:58] <SupaYoshi> and then do-release-upgrade
[09:58] <SupaYoshi> or can i go straight to the do-release-upgrade?
[09:58] <ogra_> no ... you do: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade && do-release-upgrade
[09:58] <SupaYoshi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24782098/
[09:59] <SupaYoshi> oki
[09:59] <ogra_> funny, i wonder why it does that
[10:01] <SupaYoshi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24782108/ on and on,...
[10:01] <SupaYoshi> takes a long time.
[10:03] <ogra_> that sounds like another bug to me
[10:08] <SupaYoshi> heh what to do with et
[10:11] <SupaYoshi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24782320/
[10:13] <fallentree> SupaYoshi: upgrading from 12.04? Need to follow this:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[11:01] <SupaYoshi> okay upgrade completed, em
[11:01] <SupaYoshi> I'm trying to remove libapache2-mod-php5
[11:01] <SupaYoshi> on ubuntu 14.04 but that gives me an error already
[11:05] <SupaYoshi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24782609/
[11:23] <SupaYoshi> no-one an ieda?
[11:25] <SupaYoshi> ondrej-php5-oldstable-precise.list i need to remove this i think
[11:53] <robodep> hi all
[12:09] <SupaYoshi> im having a really hard time removing libapache2-mod-php5
[12:10] <SupaYoshi> https://www.howtoinstall.co/en/ubuntu/trusty/libapache2-mod-php5?action=remove
[12:10] <SupaYoshi> this wont work
[12:27] <teward> SupaYoshi: uhm, I presume you restarted Apache after removing it?
[12:27] <teward> "this won't work" is vague too, what do you mean it didn't work.
[12:30] <robodep> I've been trying to partition multiple disks via kickstart and nothing seems to work. Does anyone have any pointers?
[12:33] <robodep> everything I've found refers to the preseed/late_command to create partitions, mkfs and append an entry to fstab, but none of that has worked so far.
[16:58] <mason> Ugh. I very much dislike that shutdown now links to systemctl, allowing admin users to shut down or reboot without a passphrase.
[16:58] <mason> I liked having the extra step.
[18:01] <mdeslaur> cpaelzer: hi! are you able to test pacemaker packages?
[18:15] <relativemedia> hey all im trying to get xenial to bind to my windows 2016 ad farm... i can pull users via getent passwd but i get a system error when trying to ssh into a box with my ad user
[18:15] <relativemedia>  pam_sss(sshd:account): Access denied for user mike: 4 (System error)
[18:15] <RoyK> when would one use pacemaker over keepalived and vice versa?
[18:15] <relativemedia> this is the guide im following: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ActiveDirectoryHowto
[18:16] <sarnold> relativemedia: what's error 4?
[18:16] <relativemedia> no idea lol
[18:16] <sarnold> relativemedia: do the ad logs include something more details?
[18:16] <relativemedia> wrong guide, this is the guide
[18:16] <relativemedia> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/sssd-ad.html
[18:17] <relativemedia> net ads user shows users too and klist shows a ticket
[18:20] <relativemedia> ad log are no go
[18:59] <cpaelzer> mdeslaur: no I havne't done that I think
[19:00] <cpaelzer> some basics when I did a fix, but nothing decent enough to say " I can test"
[19:00] <mdeslaur> cpaelzer: ok, trying to find a way to test the security updates I have ready
[19:00] <mdeslaur> cpaelzer: thanks
[19:02] <cpaelzer> mdeslaur: maybe the openstack Team can help to excecise that
[19:02] <mdeslaur> is it actually used in openstack?
[19:02] <mdeslaur> oh, it is
[19:37] <SupaYoshi> hey, i am unable to remove php5 from my ubuntu 14.04 system
[22:45] <SupaYoshi> Hi I've got a PhP application that needs to run on 5.4 which is only used internally on the LAN.
[22:45] <SupaYoshi> And I cannot install php fpm 5.4 on xenial.
[22:45] <SupaYoshi> is there a way to run a virtual machine with php 5.4.? I know it;s in secure, but I'm needing that application :)
[22:51] <nacc> SupaYoshi: of course, run it in a container or VM
[22:51] <nacc> SupaYoshi: run trusty in a container or VM, I mean
[22:51] <nacc> SupaYoshi: oh but that will be 5.5
[22:51] <nacc> SupaYoshi: there is no 5.4 in ubuntu
[23:42] <SupaYoshi> nacc , i used to have 5.4 on 12.04
[23:44] <nacc> SupaYoshi: 12.04 is eol
[23:44] <SupaYoshi> ik
[23:44] <SupaYoshi> thast why i upgraded
[23:44] <SupaYoshi> but my webapp needs 5.4 becuse it sucks
[23:47] <sarnold> it looks like php 5.4 may be in debian's LTS project https://wiki.debian.org/LTS -- you might ask them if php 5.4 is on their supported list?
[23:50] <sarnold> I don't know much about centos but it looks like centos 7 is still supported and I see a php 5.4 in http://vault.centos.org/7.3.1611/os/Source/SPackages/