[00:05] <TingPing> nvm, found the backports option on launchpad
[00:09] <naskeli> hi
[00:09] <naskeli> does anyone know why the following does not work? iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING --source-port 28015 -j SNAT --to-port 1234
[00:09] <naskeli> specifically, --source-port is not a flag
[00:10] <naskeli> hmm nvmd
[00:16] <leftyfb> naskeli: what was it?
[00:23] <DocMAX> when i start an Xvfb :0 display... does it mean that it's GLX is accelerated by the display driver?
[00:43] <regedit> is there some way I can manually perform what `sudo dpkg-reconfigure libdvd-pkg` does? i.e. manually download & build libdvdcss2 and/or whatever else this command does?
[01:44] <doubtful_> hi
[01:44] <doubtful_> does .bashrc still run at the start, if my default shell is fish?
[01:56] <croz> im running KDE, i accidentally removed the menu panel at the bottom of the window. how do i add it back?
[02:10] <malkauns> does anyone else experience a severe memory leak when using gnome-shell?
[02:15] <YankDownUnder> malkauns, In what manner? I'm running "the latest", not having issues here...that being said, I've also "trimmed" things - so I don't have animations nor compositing...
[02:17] <malkauns> YankDownUnder: like within minutes is using more than 1gb ram
[02:26] <YankDownUnder> malkauns, And you've disabled extensions and animations and compositiing to make sure that that is the issue...?
[02:27] <malkauns> hmm
[02:27] <malkauns> how do you disable compositing?
[02:31] <YankDownUnder> You should be able to do so through the gnome-control-center - and if not, through dconf-editor. Check the "window manager" you are using (mutter). Check what in your "autostart" to also determine what might "overload" things...
[02:32] <YankDownUnder> malkauns, Read through this - it might help you sort some things out: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GNOME
[02:33] <malkauns> ok thx
[03:28] <pynki> hi guys, i have a postfix running that cannot send mails to outlook.com email adresses. i migrated the server from debian jessie where the same config it worked well. it sends mails to gmail without problems. any ideas/suggestions?
[03:29] <YankDownUnder> pynki, Two suggestions - 1.) Check in #postfix 2.) Check in #ubuntu-server
[03:30] <pynki> ok!
[04:03] <azizLIGHT> how do i resrtart network manager on 14.04
[04:27] <jim> hi... trying to debug a problem with dhcp on a fairly minimal lubuntu... is this the right place to ask?
[04:38] <EldonMcGuinness> jim: You're better off just asking the question and seeing if anyone can help
[04:39] <jim> ok, it's in my copy buffer...
[04:41] <jim> the issue is we're trying to automate the starting of the net (to use ifup/down), and we're running into a situation where he has to use ethtool to set up an eth and then manually run a dhcp server, and ifup eth0 has the dhcp client try for awhile but never gets a reply from the dhcp server... running dhclient eth0 (after an ethtool invocation) does work, and from that point the net works properly
[04:42] <jim> I haven't yet determined why the ethtool invocation is needed, but it does seem to work
[04:44] <jim> could it be that the dhcp client used when iface eth0 inet dhcp is written in the interfaces file, is somehow broken or missing?
[04:45] <jim> we also haven't tried a vanilla debian install
[04:52] <azizLIGHT> how do i restart networkmanager on 14.04?
[04:53] <jim> xsmltx, what version of lubuntu are you running?
[04:54] <xsmltx> lsb_release -a https://paste.debian.net/hidden/a09b0e8d/
[04:56] <xsmltx> uname -a https://paste.debian.net/hidden/81d8f369/
[06:00] <dudeji> hey guys, i have issue with ssh , my INTERNET stops working after i go on ssh , I am using open-vpn , but my ssh keeps working.
[07:56] <antisol> Hi. Is  somebody able help me out getting 3 monitors working on 2 different video cards? :)
[08:03] <darkelite> hey
[08:03] <darkelite> having an issue setting the time
[08:04] <darkelite> timedatectl
[08:04] <darkelite>       Local time: Mon 2017-06-05 09:57:54 CEST
[08:04] <darkelite>   Universal time: Mon 2017-06-05 07:57:54 UTC
[08:04] <darkelite>         RTC time: Mon 2017-06-05 07:57:55
[08:04] <darkelite>        Time zone: Europe/Amsterdam (CEST, +0200)
[08:04] <darkelite>  Network time on: yes
[08:06] <darkelite> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24781390/
[08:06] <darkelite> the local time is the right time
[08:06] <darkelite> but when I do date it shows a different tiem
[08:06] <darkelite> time*
[08:06] <darkelite> I also did, timedatectl set-timezone Europe/Amsterdam
[08:42] <Guest36319> After upgrade to Ubuntu 17.04, many applications (forefox, thunderbird, etc) hang, and I'm unable to kill defunct process!
[08:42] <Guest36319> 2780  1965  9 juin04 ?       02:16:45 [firefox] <defunct>
[08:42] <Guest36319> killall firefox, or kill 2780 do not do anything...
[08:43] <Guest36319> Any idea, any help?
[08:45] <madsj> Guest36319: xkill ?
[08:46] <Guest36319> madsj : e.g.  xkill  2780, you mean?
[08:50] <Guest36319> madsj: OK, it killed it as X window! But are there any solution? I never encounterd these issue with Ubuntu 16.04... Please advice...
[08:51] <SupaYoshi> Hi, I tried upgrading from Ubuntu 12.04 LTS to 16.04, to 14.04 worked fine, but now I'm stuck with a broken apt-get / dpkg
[08:51] <SupaYoshi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24781720/
[08:53] <Guest36319> 30551  0.0  0.0  14248  1032 pts/3    S+   10:52   0:00  |   |   \_ grep --color=auto firefox
[08:53] <Guest36319> 2780  9.8  0.0      0     0 ?        Zl   juin04 136:45  \_ [firefox] <defunct>
[08:54] <Guest36319> 12270  0.0  0.3 725024 52640 ?        Sl   juin04   0:34  |   \_ /usr/lib/firefox/plugin-container /usr/lib/adobe-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so -greomni /usr/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /usr/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appdir /usr/lib/firefox/browser 2780 true plugin
[08:54] <Guest36319> 30430  0.1  0.6 2049244 98268 ?       Sl   10:48   0:00  \_ /usr/lib/firefox/firefox
[08:55] <Guest36319> Even after xkill, the defunct still here...
[08:58] <Guest36319> And even after "xkill", I cannot run firefox!
[08:58] <Guest36319> I got popup telling that it's already running!
[08:59] <Guest36319> The only solution till now, is to reboot the machine...
[08:59] <MonkeyDust> Guest36319  in a terminal, type    ps x | grep firefox
[09:00] <Guest36319>  MonkeyDust: 2780 ?        Zl   136:45 [firefox] <defunct>
[09:00] <MonkeyDust> Guest36319  try   kill 2780
[09:01] <madsj> Guest36319: From my experience, I upgraded from a LTS to a non-LTS a couple of years ago. Big mistake!
[09:01] <Guest36319> MonkeyDust: it not killed, and still here : 2780 ?        Zl   136:45 [firefox] <defunct>
[09:01] <MonkeyDust> Guest36319  ok, use kill -9
[09:02] <MonkeyDust> Guest36319  so, kill -9 2780
[09:02] <madsj> Guest36319: ps -ef --forest <- and then kill -9 <PID> of the parent process?
[09:02] <Guest36319> MonkeyDust: got the same result  kill -9 2780 !
[09:04] <Guest36319> madsj: Where I can see the parent process, I goot a forest of processess..
[09:09] <test12345_> hi, does anybody know a way to search a crashdump file (in kdump v6 format) with a regex? i tried the crash utility but as far as i can tell it does not support regex on its search feature
[09:09] <MonkeyDust> Guest36319  ps x --forest | grep firefox
[09:10] <Guest36319> MonkeyDust: such a commande give
[09:10] <Guest36319> 2780 ?        Zl   136:45 [firefox] <defunct>
[09:10] <Guest36319> 30675 ?        Sl     0:00 /usr/lib/firefox/firefox
[09:10] <Guest36319> 30952 pts/3    S+     0:00 grep --color=auto firefox
[09:11] <MonkeyDust> Guest36319  try   pkill firefox
[09:11] <Guest36319> And still cannut kill anything, or run firefox...
[09:12] <Guest36319> MonkeyDust: here the output of pkill firefox : 2780 ?        Zl   136:45 [firefox] <defunct>
[09:12] <Guest36319> But no change...
[09:12] <MonkeyDust> Guest36319  ok, i'm out of ideas, guess you have to logout
[09:14] <Guest36319> MonkeyDust: reboot, is the only solution I found, since my upgrade. But cannot do that 20 times every day...
[09:14] <Guest36319> So, I'm searching for a good solution, if any.
[09:15] <MonkeyDust> Guest36319  what's the outcome of   cat /etc/issue
[09:16] <Guest36319> MonkeyDust: after pkill firefox, goot the same result: 2780  1965  9 juin04 ?       02:16:45 [firefox] <defunct>
[09:18] <Guest36319> And the big issue is that this happen with many other applications : Thunderbird, Libreoffice, etc., etc.
[09:18] <Guest36319> Is possible to downgrade to 16.04 ?
[09:18] <MonkeyDust> Guest36319  that would be a fresh istall , then
[09:19] <Guest36319> cat /etc/issue
[09:19] <Guest36319> Ubuntu 17.04 \n \l
[09:20] <Guest36319> MonkeyDust: is the output of  cat /etc/issue, is normal for you?
[09:21] <Guest36319>  never seen somthing like this : "\n \l"
[09:21] <Ben64> yeah that's normal
[09:25] <MonkeyDust> Guest36319  scroll down to 'mingetty' ... https://askubuntu.com/questions/335695/why-does-etc-issue-show-me-ubuntu-and-not-lubuntu
[09:31] <SupaYoshi> im just going to restore 12.04 upgrade to 14.04
[09:31] <SupaYoshi> and then backup
[09:31] <SupaYoshi> remove php5
[09:31] <SupaYoshi> upgrade to 16.05
[09:31] <SupaYoshi> *04
[09:34] <Dave114> anyone using optane?  am I correct that bcache is the way to go for this in linux as an accelerator generally rather than using intel's SRT? easy to install ubuntu with this as root?
[09:34] <Guest36319> MonkeyDust: I have to reboot, to be able to see ...https://askubuntu.com/questions/335695/why-does-etc-issue-show-me-ubuntu-and-not-lubuntu
[09:37] <madsj> Guest36319: the parent is the top most
[09:38] <madsj> anyway, rebooting should be done after upgrading to load the new kernel etc., which would solve a lot of your problems
[09:39] <Guest36319> madsj: to be honest, I'm frustrated by rebooting every hour...
[09:40] <HeMan> Hi! My google fu is failing me. Is there any Ubuntu 17.04 images for Beaglebone black to download?
[09:40] <Guest36319> madsj: are there any new kernel? I do every days : full-update, dis-upgrade, but here is nothing...
[09:40] <HeMan> I only find 16.04 images
[09:42] <Guest36319> 1madsj: does the parent is : 987 ?        Ss     0:00 /bin/sh /usr/lib/gnome-session/run-systemd-session ubuntu-session.target
[09:43] <Guest36319> That's the one on top just after tty1
[10:10] <madsj> Guest36319: I boot once a day ... :)
[10:12] <madsj> if you do "ssh localhost", you'll be notified if the system would like to be restarted (typically if an upgrade installed a new kernel)
[10:18] <MonkeyDust> HeMan  it says here, Beaglebone is for ARM devices ... there's also #ubuntu-arm
[10:21] <HeMan> MonkeyDust: ah, thanks, I'll ask there as well
[10:35] <Razva> I'm trying to fix some nVidia drivers and it seems that ctrl+alt+f1 doesn't works. any hints?
[10:36] <fallentree> Razva: what area you actually trying to do?
[10:36] <fallentree> s/area/are
[10:37] <Razva> this: http://abhay.harpale.net/blog/linux/nvidia-gtx-1080-installation-on-ubuntu-16-04-lts/
[10:38] <fallentree> Razva: the driver from official packages is insufficient?
[10:39] <Razva> seems so...
[10:39] <Razva> which are the official packages btw?
[10:40] <fallentree> Razva: nvidia-375
[10:40] <fallentree> !info nvidia
[10:40] <fallentree> !info nvidia-375
[10:41] <Razva> it seems there are no nvidia-* installed. hmmm
[10:41] <fallentree> Razva: in what way is it insufficient? It's newer than the one in that blog
[10:42] <Razva> yeah, let me give it a shot
[10:42] <fallentree> Razva: start the System Settings control panel, see Additional Drivers tab. There you can select the proprietary driver.
[10:43] <Razva> what do you think about ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa ?
[10:44] <fallentree> Razva: I have no opinion about it. I stay away from PPAs
[10:45] <irgendwer4711> hi, I have a problem with dns resolution.
[10:45] <fallentree> irgendwer4711: Ubuntu 17.04?
[10:45] <irgendwer4711> yes
[10:45] <fallentree> yeah, it's broken.
[10:45] <irgendwer4711> occured after restart
[10:45] <ppf> really? what's the issue with dns?
[10:46] <fallentree> since there are several breakages with it, what exactly is yours?
[10:46] <ph88^> ikonia, it's a painting program
[10:46] <fallentree> ppf: systemd-resolved is broken
[10:46] <irgendwer4711> lol, systemd again
[10:46] <fallentree> of course
[10:47] <ppf> all i hear is "mimimi"
[10:47] <irgendwer4711> this biggest shit under the sun.
[10:47] <ppf> so what is the problem?
[10:47] <irgendwer4711> does not work?!
[10:47] <fallentree> ppf: maybe visit a doctor, that's not good.
[10:48] <multifractal> http://zeng.photography/blog/compile-deep-matching-on-ubuntu-14-dot-04/ What's this "fakeroot debian/rules custom" thing? I've never seen these commands before. "fakeroot" I can sort of infer, but "debian/rules"??
[10:48] <ppf> irgendwer4711: got something more specific?
[10:48] <irgendwer4711> ppf: no dns resolution
[10:48] <fallentree> irgendwer4711: set DNSSEC=no in /etc/systemd/resolved.conf and restart systemd-resolved.service, see if that helps
[10:49] <ppf> irgendwer4711: can you paste the resolved logs?
[10:50] <irgendwer4711> fallentree: does not work
[10:50] <irgendwer4711> ppf: where are resolve logs?
[10:50] <ppf> journalctl -u systemd-resolved
[10:50] <fallentree> irgendwer4711: then please pastebin `systemd-resolve --status`
[10:51] <irgendwer4711> fallentree: https://pastebin.com/BMfsbpK0
[10:52] <ppf> looks alright
[10:52] <ppf> nslookup google.com - 10.0.0.254
[10:53] <irgendwer4711> ppf: via ip-address looks good
[10:53] <ppf> nslookup google.com - 127.0.1.1?
[10:53] <irgendwer4711> ppf: nope
[10:54] <fallentree> irgendwer4711: that DNS Servers entry is wrong
[10:54] <fallentree> irgendwer4711: systemd-resolved is just a forwarder, it doesn't resolve on its own, it requires an upstream
[10:54] <irgendwer4711> fallentree: resolver is running at 127.0.0.53
[10:55] <fallentree> irgendwer4711: yeah but DNS Servers  shows 127.0.1.1 which is resolved
[10:55] <irgendwer4711> ah, I see network manager broke it
[10:55] <fallentree> should be 127.0.0.53 then
[10:55] <ppf> yeah, it's recursing to nm, that's bad
[10:55] <fallentree> irgendwer4711: I could never set it via NM, esp. not in 17.04. Use DNS= in resolved.conf
[10:55] <fallentree> because... broken.
[10:55] <irgendwer4711> fallentree: it does!!!  "# Generated by NetworkManager"
[10:56] <fallentree> irgendwer4711: ?
[10:56] <ppf> irgendwer4711: did you tell your NM to recurse to 127.0.1.1?
[10:56] <irgendwer4711> ppf: I didnt set anything
[10:56] <fallentree> irgendwer4711: resolved.conf not resolve.conf
[10:56] <fallentree> irgendwer4711: /etc/systemd/resolved.conf
[10:57] <fallentree> resolve.conf is useless in 17.04 unless you completely disable systemd-resolved which I did
[10:57] <irgendwer4711> I meant resolve.conf
[10:57] <ppf> can you paste the config?
[10:57] <ppf> fallentree: it's not?
[10:58] <irgendwer4711> maybe I did disable ystemd-resolved ago?
[10:58] <fallentree> irgendwer4711: you can't , NM starts it right up. You need to change NetworkManager.conf to disable it
[10:59] <fallentree> it's a clusterfsck in 17.04 and it's only gonna get worse it seems.
[10:59] <ppf> you're whining again
[10:59] <irgendwer4711> so what now, I have dhcp, some instance should set recolv.conf right.
[10:59] <ppf> irgendwer4711: nm configures resolv.conf
[11:00] <ppf> you don't have to  touch that
[11:00] <ppf> out of curiosity, what's it contain?
[11:00] <ppf> 127.0.0.53?
[11:00] <irgendwer4711> ppf: so nm should set the dhcp values
[11:00] <fallentree> irgendwer4711: yes, you can revert back to dnsmasq. See "dns" entry of NetworkManager.conf manual
[11:00] <irgendwer4711> I dont need any local resolver
[11:00] <ppf> fallentree: how about we figure out what's wrong first?
[11:01] <fallentree> ppf: I've been at it for a week and gave up, removed it completely and installed Bind. Unbound is good too.
[11:01] <irgendwer4711> silly ubuntu should use the dhcp vales.
[11:01] <irgendwer4711> *values
[11:01] <ppf> irgendwer4711: basicly, something configured your resolved to recurse to 127.0.1.1, which is wrong
[11:01] <fallentree> in fact, NM can hook up with unbound, so it's recommended.
[11:01] <fallentree> systemd-resolved is horribly broken and should not be used.
[11:01] <ppf> systemd-resolved is perfectly fine, you're just making excuses
[11:02] <fallentree> it's not.
[11:02] <fallentree> also, it's leaking your queries if you use VPN
[11:02] <fallentree> and defaults to google if it can't resolve otherwise, so you have to explicitly set FallbackDNS
[11:02] <fallentree> ppf: oh and read and weep: https://lists.dns-oarc.net/pipermail/dns-operations/2016-June/014964.html
[11:02] <ppf> irgendwer4711: can you paste the resolvd logs?
[11:03] <irgendwer4711> I already did?
[11:03] <ppf> irgendwer4711: i don't see it?
[11:03] <irgendwer4711> this https://pastebin.com/BMfsbpK0 ?
[11:04] <ppf> nah, that's systemd-resolved --status
[11:04] <irgendwer4711> which do you want?
[11:04] <ppf> journalctl -u systemd-resolved
[11:05] <irgendwer4711> funny stuff
[11:05] <irgendwer4711> ppf: https://pastebin.com/5QCSBMr6
[11:06] <irgendwer4711> systemd is breaking the dhcp settings!
[11:06] <ppf> /etc/resolvconf/update.d/libc: Warning: /etc/resolv.conf is not a symbolic link to /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf
[11:06] <irgendwer4711> yep
[11:07] <irgendwer4711> written by nm
[11:07] <ppf> what's that about? can you paste that file?
[11:08] <irgendwer4711> https://pastebin.com/Cq6hMfGZ
[11:08] <ppf> yah that's wrong. did you create that?
[11:08] <irgendwer4711> again you are funny, "Generated by NetworkManager"
[11:09] <ppf> yes, so?
[11:09] <fallentree> ppf: you're not listening, it is broken
[11:09] <ppf> fallentree: it's not??
[11:09] <fallentree> it is
[11:09] <ppf> that file is wrong
[11:09] <fallentree> it's set by NM
[11:09] <irgendwer4711> right
[11:09] <fallentree> are you listening? :)
[11:09] <ppf> no, /run/resolveconf/resolv.conf is set by nm
[11:09] <fallentree> the stack is broken, the integration with it is broken
[11:09] <irgendwer4711> hm should take the dhcp values
[11:09] <ppf> /etc/resolv.conf should be a symlink to that
[11:09] <ppf> but irgendwer4711 overwrote that with a copy of some old file
[11:10] <irgendwer4711> only in systemd-world
[11:10] <fallentree> irgendwer4711: I've been at it for several days and I just gave up, removed it completely. And I've been doing system administration professionally for 10+ years. Do yourself a favor and revert back to dnsmasq or install unbound.
[11:10] <irgendwer4711> ppf: I didnt anything!
[11:10] <ppf> irgendwer4711: open /run/resolveconf/resolv.conf
[11:10] <ppf> what's it say?
[11:10] <irgendwer4711> ppf: 404
[11:10] <ppf> resolvconf
[11:10] <ppf> sry
[11:11] <irgendwer4711> ppf: nameserver 127.0.0.53
[11:11] <ppf> that's the correct one
[11:11] <ppf> replace /etc/resolv.conf with a symlink to that file
[11:11] <irgendwer4711> but I dont need that
[11:11] <fallentree> but it's not used by resolved as noted with --status
[11:11] <ppf> you do
[11:11] <ppf> 127.0.0.53 is resolved
[11:11] <fallentree> no
[11:11] <irgendwer4711> no I dont, I have a router with bind
[11:12] <fallentree> 127.0.1.1 is
[11:12] <ppf> fallentree: no?
[11:12] <fallentree> no, 127.0.1.1 is resolved
[11:12] <ppf> 127.0.1.1 used to be dnsmasq
[11:12] <fallentree> yea and systemd-resolved is now the centerpiece of dns resolution in 17.04
[11:12] <robodep> hi all
[11:12] <fallentree> ppf: are you running 17.04?
[11:12] <ppf> fallentree: yes, and resolved is listening on .53
[11:13] <irgendwer4711> stop that. I do not need any sytemd, dnsmasq or what ever.
[11:13] <irgendwer4711> I use dhcp and that values count
[11:13] <ppf> yes, that's all well
[11:14] <ppf> just get rid of your broken resolvconf config and you're good
[11:14] <irgendwer4711> I do not need any cache cascade
[11:14] <irgendwer4711> how to get nm to set the dhcp values?
[11:15] <fallentree> irgendwer4711: try setting dns=none in /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
[11:15] <robodep> Is anyone familiar with partitioning multiple drives via kickstart?
[11:16] <fallentree> irgendwer4711: that way it should not touch resolv.conf, so I _suppose_ dhclient will instead
[11:16] <ppf> irgendwer4711: whatever you configure nm, it won't help until you fix your broken resolv.conf ...
[11:16] <irgendwer4711> re
[11:17] <ppf> irgendwer4711: whatever you configure nm, it won't help until you fix your broken resolv.conf ...
[11:17] <fallentree> ppf: that's not true. dhclient will overwrite it
[11:18] <ppf> :(
[11:18] <ppf> it will not ...
[11:18] <irgendwer4711> funny, the dhclient seems to be systemd infected too
[11:18] <fallentree> it will if you set dns=none for NetworkManager
[11:18] <ppf> it overwrites /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf
[11:18] <ppf> which resolv.conf is supposed to be a symlink to
[11:19] <fallentree> ppf: then explain to me how is my ubuntu working just fine with resolv.conf NOT being a symlink?
[11:19] <fallentree> I manually set my own resolver, and disabled all that systemd NM crap
[11:19] <ppf> because youre resolv.conf is probably randomly correct?
[11:19] <fallentree> no. glibc resolver config is in /etc/resolv.conf
[11:19] <fallentree> the /run/... crap is systemd specific
[11:20] <ANub> hello
[11:20] <ppf> fallentree: no it's not
[11:20] <fallentree> it is
[11:20] <ppf> no
[11:21] <ANub> once we boot into ubuntu live and install a utility, does it get installed on HD or Virtual Filesystem in RAM ?
[11:21] <elstellino> if it's with persistence, in the casper-rw file, if not, RAM
[11:22] <irgendwer4711> /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf is showing two resolvers
[11:22] <ANub> casper-rw, so that parameter is passed at boot time, right ?
[11:23] <bsdlain> Small question: When was using apt-get to install deprecated
[11:23] <bsdlain> And why?
[11:23] <ANub> my reason for asking is that i want to image the ubuntu partition using partclone which is not available in default
[11:23] <ANub> so need to install
[11:23] <ppf> bsdlain: it isn't deprecated, but there's a new tool emerging
[11:24] <ppf> it mostly unifies apt-get and apt-cache
[11:26] <bsdlain> ppf: You mean apt install?
[11:26] <irgendwer4711> how to remove the systemd line from resolv.conf?
[11:26] <ppf> bsdlain: yes
[11:27] <ppf> irgendwer4711: remove 127.0.0.53
[11:27] <robodep> everything I've found in reference to partitioning multiple disks says to use preseed/late_command string, but nothing I've tried all weekend has worked so far.
[11:27] <bsdlain> That's as of 14.10?
[11:27] <irgendwer4711> ppf: I cant find this line
[11:27] <elstellino> casper-rw is a file, or you can make it as an ext-4 partition with that label if you want more than 4Gb limit of the file, but don't know how you can extract nor insert data in it ANub
[11:27] <ppf> irgendwer4711: then there's no resolved configured
[11:27] <irgendwer4711> ppf: it is
[11:28] <elstellino> didn't want to type all that, sorry
[11:28] <ppf> irgendwer4711: how do you kno
[11:28] <ppf> w
[11:28] <irgendwer4711> ppf: I did resolvconf -u
[11:28] <bsdlain> Thanks ppf
[11:28] <irgendwer4711> the line is revreated
[11:29] <irgendwer4711> *recreated
[11:29] <ppf> irgendwer4711: did you recreate the symlink?
[11:29] <irgendwer4711> yes
[11:29] <ppf> actually, what did you change altogether?
[11:29] <irgendwer4711> just the link
[11:29] <fallentree> irgendwer4711: set dns=none in /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf and it won't touch resolv.conf
[11:30] <irgendwer4711> fallentree: I know
[11:30] <ppf> dude ...
[11:30] <elstellino> but ANub, you can install in live that program, doing your stuff, and then you'll have the partition cloned, if I understood correctly what you want to do
[11:30] <irgendwer4711> I have 2 nameserver ins resolv.conf now, the real and the systemd-stuff
[11:30] <ppf> irgendwer4711: did you restart nm?
[11:30] <irgendwer4711> I will do
[11:31] <oerheks> " the real and the systemd-stuff " lolz
[11:31] <irgendwer4711> re
[11:32] <irgendwer4711> ppf: nothing changed
[11:32] <ppf> oerheks: yeah, maybe we should print something like "Make not-systemd great again" onto those trucker hats and sell it
[11:32] <ppf> we could make a fortune
[11:32] <irgendwer4711> systemd sux
[11:32] <fallentree> ppf: yes. and that says alot about it.
[11:33] <bazhang> irgendwer4711, lets stay topical here
[11:33] <irgendwer4711> bazhang: thats the topic!
[11:33] <ppf> irgendwer4711: how do you expect to get help when you reply to everything with a systemd rant?
[11:33] <ppf> even though that's entirely unrelated?
[11:33] <irgendwer4711> sure its related
[11:33] <bazhang> irgendwer4711, no need for the commentary such as what you are doing
[11:33] <ppf> irgendwer4711: nm configures resolv.conf
[11:33] <SupaYoshi> how do i remove a ppa?
[11:33] <ppf> there's no systemd in the mix
[11:34] <ppf> !ppa-purge
[11:34] <SupaYoshi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24782769/
[11:34] <irgendwer4711> ppf: and why put nm a systemd-resolver in it?
[11:34] <ppf> did you change the networkmanager config?
[11:34] <SupaYoshi> i want to remove the em, -> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ondrej-php5-oldstable-precise.list.distUpgrade:deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ondrej/php5-oldstable/ubuntu precise main
[11:34] <bazhang> SupaYoshi, use the ppa purge see above
[11:34] <SupaYoshi> I cannot install ppa-purge because it's not working.
[11:34] <irgendwer4711> ppf: just the part fallentree said
[11:35] <SupaYoshi> I cannot install that due to apt-get being broken just now duie to that ppa, or one package, called. libapache2-mod-php5
[11:35] <bazhang> SupaYoshi, what version of ubuntu are you using
[11:35] <SupaYoshi> 14.04 lts now
[11:35] <SupaYoshi> I was on 12.04 upgraded to 14.04 :) but that package, (libapache2-mod-php5) is now being a pain after the upgrade
[11:35] <ppf> irgendwer4711: can you paste the current /etc/resolv.conf?
[11:36] <irgendwer4711> ppf: https://pastebin.com/zhHZ1C3k
[11:37] <ppf> irgendwer4711: where's the home.zz coming from?
[11:37] <irgendwer4711> ppf: dhcp
[11:37] <ppf> irgendwer4711: anything in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d ?
[11:38] <irgendwer4711> ppf: empty files
[11:38] <irgendwer4711> there is no 127.0.0.53 line in my entire /etc
[11:38] <SupaYoshi> ?
[11:39] <SupaYoshi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24782826/
[11:39] <SupaYoshi> all im asking is how to disable these 2?
[11:40] <robodep> does anyone know the proper way to partition multiple disks during kickstart install?
[11:40] <robodep> on 16.04
[11:42] <irgendwer4711> ppf: thx so far, I will kick all systemd off my disk and try on my own.
[11:42] <ppf> irgendwer4711: oh fine
[11:42] <ppf> don't expect us to help though
[11:43] <fallentree> shrug. and only if he switched over to unbound, supported by NM, it'd all work just fine.
[11:43] <ppf> or if he'd just stuck with resolved ...
[11:44] <ppf> the only problem he had was the disconnected /etc/resolv.conf. but, sure, we can blame that on systemd and spend a week messing with the setup ...
[11:45] <fallentree> resolved should not have been set as default in 17.04. it's as simple as that. it's broken, buggy, vulnerable.
[11:46] <ppf> then go pick another distro if you don't like what the  maintainers are doing
[11:46] <irgendwer4711> ppf: done with that https://askubuntu.com/questions/907246/how-to-disable-systemd-resolved-in-ubuntu
[11:48] <fallentree> ppf: even if I did, wouldn't change the fact that ubuntu has defaulted to broken, buggy and vulnerable systemd crap resolver that even itsn't a resolver but a forwarder with no RFC and no DNSSEC support.
[11:48] <mjayk> Haya all trying to get netflix to work on 17.04 in google chrome and I get an error which seams to relate to libnss3 being an old version any info on this
[11:48] <fallentree> so "it shouldn't have" remains a true fact.
[11:52] <ppf> fallentree: you can probably email the maintainers and ask for their motivation
[11:53] <fallentree> ppf: you're probably not running 17.04 and probably have no idea that on the day of release NOBODY could've resolved anything with it because it was broken and required an additional patch that defaulted to DNSSEC off. So I wonder, motives aside, is this thing even tested AT ALL before release?
[11:54] <ppf> fallentree: i'm running 17.04. and i've hit that issue
[11:54] <fallentree> and you still say there's nothing wrong with systemd-resolved? lol!!
[11:55] <fallentree> true feathers.
[11:55] <ioria> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1682499
[11:56] <ppf> fallentree: I'm not saying there's nothing wrong with it
[11:57] <fallentree> ppf:    13:01 < ppf> systemd-resolved is perfectly fine, you're just making excuses
[11:57] <ppf> either way, this discussion is moot i think. if you're unhappy with an executive decision then deal with it however you see fit. but whining about a piece of software isn't helping anyone
[11:58] <ppf> yes, that doesn't mean there's nothing wrong with it
[11:58] <bazhang> fallentree, lets take the systemd chatter elsewhere
[11:58] <fallentree> I dealt with it, removed resolved completely from the resolution chain.
[11:58] <fallentree> bazhang: it's not systemd chatter, it's a problem with a critical Ubuntu component.
[11:58] <fallentree> everyone knows systemd is crap so yeah there's no point beating that old horse.
[11:58] <bazhang> fallentree, its not welcome here, take it to a chat channel please
[12:00] <fallentree> ppf: it does. "perfectly fine" == "nothing wrong" unless you don't know what "perfectly" and "fine" mean?
[12:00] <fallentree> bazhang: okay.
[12:03] <mjayk> Haya all trying to get netflix to work on 17.04 in google chrome and I get an error which seams to relate to libnss3 being an old version any info on this
[12:07] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:08] <ppf> hey there
[12:09] <SupaYoshi> im having a really hard time removing php5
[12:09] <SupaYoshi> libapache2-mod-php5
[12:21] <Etothetaui> i'm running ubuntu and recently my shift key is being glitchy. when I open leafpad and try to type capital a repeatedly it only works some of the time when i type it. sometimes it works, sometimes i just get a lower case a and sometimes i don't get anything
[12:22] <Etothetaui> its definitely not a problem with the actual key because i have the issue with both right and left shift keys
[12:23] <Etothetaui> i am almost entirely sure its a software problem
[12:23] <Etothetaui> is there some kind of glitch in a recent zenity update that does this/
[12:28] <Razva> guys, why in the world does Ubuntu look so crappy? it's like...it's mushy...
[12:29] <Razva> installed the latest nvidia drivers
[12:29] <Razva> but still, text is not "crisp"
[12:30] <Razva> is that some "default" behavior?
[12:36] <Etothetaui> and it doesn't have to do with my desktop environment because when i go to tty3 i have the same problem typing capital letters in terminal
[12:36] <Etothetaui> and restarting doesn't help
[12:40] <Etothetaui> i dont understand how both my shift keys just went unresponsive at the same time. when I use xev  i dont get any response at all from either shift key, its super weird
[12:50] <sicc_sicc> I would like to understand why on my laptop eth0 is not working depending on battery or ac power supply during boot.
[12:51] <sicc_sicc> Is this more a bios problem or something that can be influenced in OS (power safe modes etc.)
[12:52] <sicc_sicc> I rarely use eth0 but if I have to I mostly have to reboot machine loosing all context.
[13:14] <Meliorator> hi all, I'm having trouble getting Ubuntu to boot on an older Intel motherboard. I read that some people resolved the issue by adding the bootable flag, so I used fdisk to set that in the nested hybrid MBR partition (GPT), but it still does not boot. It seems me setting the bootable flag does not survive a restart (despite me writing changes to disk), please help!
[13:18] <dabba> Meliorator: its old, so I can assume it's got old bios and not uefi? :)
[13:18] <dabba> i guess my question is really how old lol
[13:18] <frostschutz> Meliorator, show output of 'parted -l' or 'parted /dev/disk unit s print free'?
[13:34] <Meliorator> sorry, need to rearrange some stuff, so I can be at both machines
[13:52] <Perseoo> Hello :). What are good resources to get started with Ubuntu and Linux in general?
[13:53] <MonkeyDust> !manual | Perseoo
[13:57] <compdoc> Perseoo, best to learn by doing. install, try things, install more, and use google to figure things out
[13:57] <MonkeyDust> Perseoo  and when all else fails, join #ubuntu
[14:00] <Perseoo> Well, thanks guys. My issue is I haven't had the time to experiment, and so my use of ubuntu has been very windows-y so far. If you know what I mean.
[14:01] <Perseoo> No terminal no fun :)
[14:03] <compdoc> one thing to know abuot linux is where certain files are located, like /etc and /var/logs and /home
[14:03] <Perseoo> I'll research on the topic
[14:26] <Razva> hey folks! did anybody found any way to run iTunes on Ubuntu (without a full-blown Windows VM)? Wine doesn't works (cannot connect to Apple servers). Maybe some Android / iOS emulators...?
[14:31] <leftyfb> Razva: a VM with Windows is your only option for a clean/functional iTunes installation
[14:32] <Razva> did anybody tried Crossover?
[14:32] <Razva> leftyfb: any hint which Windows version is the most "lighter"? Installing a full W10 looks like a bad idea
[14:32] <leftyfb> Razva: iTunes will not run properly within any sort of wine configuration
[14:33] <leftyfb> Razva: at this point you are off-topic. You should ask in #windows or #microsoft
[14:33] <Razva> maybe an Android emulator?
[14:33] <leftyfb> again, offtopic
[14:34] <MonkeyDust> Razva  you're in the wrong channel
[14:35] <Razva> do the Android guys need to know Ubuntu, or vice-versa? :D
[14:35] <leftyfb> Razva: btw, there's no iTunes for Android
[14:35] <Razva> it is (Apple Music), I'm using it daily :)
[14:36] <leftyfb> Apple Music != iTunes ... but sure, whatever you like. Still not Ubuntu related
[14:37] <Razva> ok, thanks for the answers
[14:44] <gebbione> hi folks, i am trying to install a version of php5-sybase specific for a php api of 20121212. Ie https://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/php5-sybase
[14:47] <StevieW> hi all. i have another laptop with a dead enter-key and cannot press 'enter' after typing the ssd-encryption-password before the os boots. so i cant enter the os (where i usually could use the software-keyboard for the enter-button). do you know if there is another method to press enter? maybe with a key-combination?
[14:47] <gebbione> external keyboard?
[14:47] <gebbione> Steelpan_,
[14:47] <gebbione> sorry StevieW
[14:48] <StevieW> i also can enter into the terminal-mode when i press one of the arrow-keys. maybe is there another possibility?
[14:48] <gebbione> StevieW, again external keyboard??????
[14:48] <StevieW> gebbione, unfortunately i dont have one atm :/
[14:48] <leftyfb> StevieW: then the answer is no
[14:48] <gebbione> it is the easiest option or repair the laptop
[14:49] <StevieW> ok, thank you people. do you know what the problem could be? its always the enter and the "?" keys at the same time which dont work. if one of them works again then the other one works also.
[14:50] <leftyfb> StevieW: replace the keyboard
[14:50] <StevieW> i tried to update the bios but it didnt work
[14:50] <StevieW> okay
[14:52] <gebbione> have u spilled anything on the keyboard?
[14:53] <gebbione> like coffee?
[14:54] <Threads> or cum
[14:54] <StevieW> nope :/
[14:54] <StevieW> :D
[14:55] <leftyfb> Threads: VERY inappropriate.
[14:56] <Chaser> StevieW: control + m ?
[14:56] <ash_workz> why would psql show in top and not in ps aux?
[14:59] <ash_workz> oh
[14:59] <ash_workz> because it keeps closing
[14:59] <StevieW> Chaser, IT WORKS! Thank you thank you thank you! :)
[15:00] <Chaser> StevieW: you are welcome.
[15:01] <ash_workz> I keep getting a process /.../perl -w /.../psql -tAc ... how do I find out what keeps spawning this process?
[15:08] <luis30> is there a page where ubuntu announcing when an update has been released?
[15:08] <sodhi> ash_workz, I believe you'd need a monitoring tool.
[15:08] <sodhi> ash_workz, IIRC sysdig does what you want :)
[15:09] <sodhi> ash_workz, Oh, but before delving that deep.. have you tried looking at the PPID?
[15:09] <ash_workz> weird... so I did `ps aux | grep $(ps -eo ppid,args | egrep "[p]sql" | awk  '{print $1}')` and it's giving me the command -su
[15:09] <leftyfb> luis30: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-release
[15:09] <ash_workz> sodhi: wow! ^
[15:09] <luis30> thanks leftyfb
[15:09] <ash_workz> lefty facebook
[15:10] <leftyfb> ash_workz: the mailing list will always be first
[15:10] <ash_workz> leftyfb: ?
[15:10] <luis30> oh this is like a email newsletter i guess they dont do a blog...
[15:10] <luis30> anyone know if the updates today for ubuntu 17.04 have been released?
[15:10] <leftyfb> luis30: there are always updates
[15:11] <leftyfb> luis30: 17.04 does not have point releases
[15:11] <sodhi> ash_workz, wow? :P ps -o ppid= -p <processID> wil give you the PPID. If it's 1: use sysdig.
[15:11] <luis30> well there was supposed to be a kernel upgrade released for today
[15:11] <luis30> june 5
[15:11] <leftyfb> luis30: June 5 isn't over yet
[15:11] <luis30> yea i know that is why i asked if it has been release yet :P
[15:11] <sodhi> leftyfb, depends on where in the world you reside :P
[15:13] <ash_workz> sodhi: well, the problem is it keeps changing
[15:13] <ash_workz> oh
[15:13] <ash_workz> I mean the pid of psql
[15:13] <ash_workz> but the ppid is always 10448 -us
[15:13] <ash_workz> but the ppid is always 10448 `-su`
[15:13] <sodhi> so check the ppid of 10448 :)
[15:14] <ash_workz> sodhi: right... the command is '-su' ?
[15:15] <ash_workz> but I don't understand what that means... like `sudo su`? I mean... I don't see how such a thing would be responsible for psql
[15:15] <sodhi> I think I must be misunderstanding you. You have some process that keeps spawning. You've figured out that another process, 10448, is spawning it, but that process in on it's own doesn't give you the answer, so delve deeper. What is starting 10448.
[15:17] <ash_workz> sodhi: 1
[15:17] <ash_workz> :
[15:17] <ash_workz> :\
[15:17] <sodhi> Good. Now get sysdig :)
[15:18] <sodhi> 1 is just init, so some process is spawning the "-su" (PID: 10448) at init. To figure out what, get sysdig.
[15:18] <ash_workz> I'll keep my fingers crossed
[15:22] <ash_workz> damn it all... nothing is ever easy 'error opening device /dev/sysdig0'
[15:26] <ash_workz> maybe sysdig doesn't have a module that uses 3.13.0-117-generic
[15:26] <ash_workz> sodhi: any other suggestions?
[15:29] <dreamcat4> hi there. is anyone here on 16.04 +, can you try something very simple for me?
[15:30] <leftyfb> dreamcat4: if you're having an issue, it's best to detail your issue here
[15:30] <dreamcat4> can you pls just post me the output of this cmd: ls -l / /var | grep tmp
[15:30] <robodep> hi all
[15:31] <dreamcat4> just need to see the what default is (that i mounted my own /tmp)
[15:31] <sodhi> ash_workz, secure boot enabled?
[15:32] <ash_workz> hmm, idk, actually... I don't think so
[15:32] <robodep> I've been trying to figure out the proper way to partition multiple disks in 16.04 via kickstart since Friday with no success. From what I've gathered, the recommended method is via preseed/late_command, but that hasn't worked for me yet.
[15:32] <sodhi> ash_workz, try sudo sysdig-probe-loader
[15:33] <leftyfb> dreamcat4: what data are you looking for exactly? btw, spinning up an lxc container to check these types of things is really simple
[15:33] <dreamcat4> leftyfb: i want to know if /tmp and /var/tmp are 2 seperate folders, or if one folder point to the other one (like /var/run)
[15:34] <leftyfb> dreamcat4: 2 separate directories
[15:34] <ash_workz> sodhi: yeah, it's a headers thing
[15:34] <robodep> what's the best way to partition multiple disks via kickstart/preseed?
[15:34] <dreamcat4> thanks leftyfb
[15:34] <ash_workz> sodhi: Error! Your kernel headers for kernel 3.13.0-117-generic cannot be found.
[15:34] <ash_workz> sodhi: E: Package 'linux-headers-3.13.0-117-generic' has no installation candidate
[15:34] <ash_workz> D:
[15:35] <dreamcat4> leftyfb: the problem im trying to solve is not to run a boot time script more than 1x per boot... so i want to touch a file in some /tmp folder (that is not persistent across reboots)
[15:35] <sodhi> apt-get install linux-headers linux-headers-generic linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[15:35] <leftyfb> robodep: you could look into partman. Though you have no specified any issues or requirements
[15:35] <sodhi> (add sudo as needed :D)
[15:36] <dreamcat4> leftyfb: what i noticed just now was that my new file in /tmp is not remembered between reboots, yet the file i put in /var/tmp is remembered.
[15:36] <ash_workz> sodhi: but uname -r wont work
[15:36] <leftyfb> dreamcat4: tmpfile=$(mktemp) ; if [ -f $tmpfile ] ; then ; exit 0 ; fi
[15:36] <ash_workz> sodhi: there "is no installation candidate"
[15:36] <dreamcat4> yeah i know...
[15:37] <dreamcat4> its just there is also /run and /lock too. so i might prefer to use /lock instead for this purpose
[15:37] <ash_workz> oh
[15:37] <ash_workz> I bet there are pending updates
[15:37] <leftyfb> dreamcat4: why? Why not let mktemp do all the work for you and just refer to the variable?
[15:38] <robodep> @leftyfb I use 'preseed partman-auto/disk string /dev/sdb' for the first disk and that works. If I specify the additional devices on the same line, e.g. 'preseed partman-auto/disk string /dev/sdb /dev/sdc /dev/sdd', how do I specify which disk to partition after that?
[15:38] <dreamcat4> leftyfb: because if mktemp were to create the file in /var/tmp it would be persistent across reboots... although i guess maybe there is a specific option in mktemp to control that
[15:39] <robodep> my requirements for sdc and sdd are a single partition taking up all available free space on those devices, with an ext4 fs and fstab entries
[15:39] <leftyfb> robodep: don't know. read the documentation?
[15:40] <dreamcat4> oh anyway i can still use mktemp to create something in /run/lock
[15:40] <dreamcat4> (so it doesnt matter)
[15:40] <leftyfb> dreamcat4: why do you care where mktemp creates the file? By default it should create it in a tmpfs somewhere and delete it on reboot.
[15:42] <ash_workz> is there a way to do a full upgrade, except for a particular package?
[15:42] <dreamcat4> leftyfb: well according to the output of 'mount'... on my system /tmp isn't tempfs wheras /run and /run/lock are... so i guess i should be prefering them anyhow
[15:43] <leftyfb> dreamcat4: the point is, mktemp should just take care of that without you having to worry about where the file is located
[15:43] <dreamcat4> ah... perhaps my /tmp is mounted a bit weird anyhow
[15:43] <dreamcat4> due to some zfs issue - workaround
[15:45] <leftyfb> dreamcat4: I take that back, I guess /tmp isn't tmpfs
[15:45] <leftyfb> but if tmp files there get deleted on boot, then it doesn't really matter
[15:45] <dreamcat4> yeah... so you see it too then. i just wasnt sure because i am using zfs for everything over here
[15:46] <dreamcat4> leftyfb: well i guess the difference is the system then has to waste more resources deleting temporary files, wheras with tmpfs it doesn't have to bother. (and potentially not going to wear out more write cycles on a nand ssd since tmpfs is in memory)
[15:47] <leftyfb> dreamcat4: that system is already there
[15:48] <dreamcat4> huh? what? sorry i didn't understand that last bit
[15:49] <dreamcat4> (if you say) /tmp isn't tmpfs
[15:49] <leftyfb> the system of deleting tmp files on reboot already exists whether you utilize it in a script or not
[15:50] <dreamcat4> yes... but that was not actually my point
[15:50] <dreamcat4> tmpfs is already there too (for /run/*)
[15:50] <dreamcat4> mount | grep tmp
[15:51] <theseb> So a suspend/sleep mystery....AFTER an upgrade, when I try to wake up from suspend I
[15:51] <theseb> hear some noises then nothing....It is almost as if resume can do half the work
[15:52] <theseb> but something in middle stops it...Does that clue give any indication what could
[15:52] <theseb> be the problem?  I tried booting with old kernels but still same problem with resume...
[15:52] <dreamcat4>  mktemp --tmpdir=/var/lock myfile.XXX
[16:00] <dreamcat4> i suppose /tmp doesnt use tmpfs, because it could be needed for 'large' files. that would not fit in a tmpfs of memory. yet /run is just small files... hence the difference why
[16:01] <dreamcat4> like large temporary cache files etc
[16:02] <dreamcat4> and mktemp has no ways to know if is being asked to make a large file or a small file (by default), so it puts in /tmp
[16:03] <dreamcat4> however on other OSes, mktemp may deafult to creating files in some other location instead. for example /var/tmp
[16:24] <g1itch> anyone here using StrongSwan by chance? I'm having an issue adding a new VPN in gnome but not really sure where to go for support
[16:27] <compdoc> which vpn?
[16:27] <MarkAllasread> Anyone have a favorite sip client?
[16:35] <xet7> glitch: I use StrongSwan to connect to L2TP VPN
[16:38] <xet7> glitch: I use these packages: https://github.com/nm-l2tp/network-manager-l2tp/wiki/Prebuilt-Packages
[17:03] <Nick---_> im trying to install get-pip.py for python 2.7.3 but i get this error https://pastebin.com/v8Hvr7Ms    can someone help me?
[17:04] <Pici> Nick---_: Thats weird, how did you install python?
[17:04] <Nick---_> ubuntu 17.04
[17:04] <Pici> Nick---_: That didn't answer my question
[17:04] <Nick---_> wget http://python.org/ftp/python/2.7.3/Python-2.7.3.tgz
[17:05] <Nick---_> tar -xvf Python-2.7.3.tgz && cd Python-2.7.3/
[17:05] <craptalk> guys how can i get into emergency mode on ubuntu? since i was using centos, i could just edit the grub, and put rd.break
[17:05] <nacc> Nick---_: don't install your own python or whatever
[17:05] <Nick---_> ./configure --prefix=/usr
[17:05] <Pici> Nick---_: Why? Python is already installed by default on Ubuntu 17.04, and is in the package repositories as well.
[17:05] <Nick---_> i need python 2.7.3 to be installed
[17:05] <Nick---_> what version of python is installed by default
[17:05] <Nick---_> ?
[17:06] <nacc> !info python zesty
[17:06] <nacc> Nick---_: why do you need 2.7.3 ?
[17:06] <nacc> Nick---_: that's a 2012 release ... and there are (at least) 10 bugfix releases since then
[17:07] <Nick---_> i need it because im installing a bot for the line app and i was told i can only use python 2.7.3
[17:07] <nacc> Nick---_: told by whom?
[17:07] <Nick---_> someone on a group chat of the line app
[17:08] <Nick---_> someone who installed the bot already
[17:08] <nacc> Nick---_: if that's actually true, I would not install such bad software
[17:08] <Nick---_> its ok im using a vm
[17:09] <Nick---_> can you tell me how to install python 2.7.3 with pip anyway?
[17:10] <Nick---_> nacc:
[17:12] <Nick---_> how about anyone else?
[17:13] <DArqueBishop> Nick---_: have you tried installing the bot on the system-provided Python?
[17:13] <Nick---_> no
[17:14] <DArqueBishop> Nick---_: try it first. If it doesn't work, try a different bot. Requiring an out-of-date point release of Python is bad design and you do NOT want such software on your system.
[17:15] <Nick---_> i think its just an old bot and i cant find any other line bots
[17:22] <Pici> Nick---_: bots for what?
[17:22] <Nick---_> bots for the line app
[17:23] <Nick---_> you can creat your own chatrooms in the line app. everybody has a bot on line
[17:26] <oerheks> some bots can join support channels to ask for python, very human like
[17:36] <dlam> anyone got any ideas on how to monitor a box's load average?  im thinking i write a cron that calls 'uptime' and sends the output to somewhere  (graphite or something?)
[17:42] <Pici> dlam: collectd -> graphite
[17:43] <Hulio> can nero linux 4 burn BR ?
[17:44] <Hulio> can anyone tell me how I can setup ftps in ubuntu?
[17:44] <Hulio> i can open port 21 or 23
[17:44] <Hulio> but by default, is ubuntu has sftp server ?
[17:45] <Pici> Hulio: via ssh, yes.
[17:45] <Pici> Hulio: and not by default, you'd need to install openssh-server
[17:45] <Hulio> Pici, do i need to install anything?
[17:45] <Hulio> oh okay
[17:46] <Hulio> sudo install openssh-server
[17:46] <Hulio> it's not workig
[17:46] <Hulio> install: missing destination file operand after 'openssh-server'
[17:47] <Hulio> I hope help is on the way
[17:47] <cristian_c> !apt
[17:48] <Pici> Hulio: sudo apt install openssh-server
[17:48] <oerheks> Hulio, good start https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/openssh-server.html
[17:48] <Hulio> ok
[17:48] <oerheks> and https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/ftp-server.html
[17:48] <Hulio> actually it is missing apt-get
[17:48] <Hulio> thanks Pici
[17:49] <cristian_c> hi all, I need to find an effective method in order to add and use a new resolution for employing in a basic projector
[17:50] <cristian_c> I've looked at xconfigresolution ubuntu wiki, and also tried cvt, but I've got some difficulties in order to perform the task
[17:51] <cristian_c> How could control the proper commands and debug in case of failure?
[17:51] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[17:53] <Hulio> Pici, working goods.
[17:53] <Hulio> Ok, any way to do remote desktop to ubuntu?
[17:53] <Hulio> like vnc ?
[17:53] <Hulio> what do i need to do?
[17:53] <Hulio> to acomplish that?
[17:54] <ash_workz> okay, I am lost; apt-get install linux-headers-3.13.0-117-generic claims theres no installation candidate
[17:54] <ash_workz> what gives?
[17:54] <compdoc> Hulio, not for the Unity desktop, but yeah, x2go is great
[17:55] <Hulio> how can i install x2go ?
[17:55] <compdoc> http://wiki.x2go.org/doku.php/doc:installation:x2goserver
[17:56] <ash_workz> Hulio: fwiw there's always teamviewer and ssh
[17:56] <ash_workz> and/or*
[17:56] <genii> ssh -XC wherever
[17:57] <Hulio> compdoc, and what client do i need for Android phone to access it?
[17:58] <ash_workz> Hulio: you team viewer has a nice client for android as well ;)
[17:58] <compdoc> HMM, THINK ONLY WORKS WITH LINUX, WINDOWS, AND MAYBE APPLE
[17:58] <compdoc> oops, caps
[17:59] <ash_workz> that was an awfully long sentence not to notice :P
[17:59] <Hulio> ash_workz, you  meant i can install teamviewer server on linux
[17:59] <ash_workz> Hulio: on pretty much anything
[17:59] <ash_workz> Hulio: except chrome os
[17:59] <ash_workz> Hulio: limited functionality there
[17:59] <ash_workz> Hulio: but android, mac, windows, linux
[17:59] <Hulio> i used to the real vnc
[18:00] <ash_workz> (personally I don't use mac, but I used team viewer on my phone, linux laptop and windows desktops
[18:00] <ash_workz> I haven't used real vnc
[18:01] <Hulio> is teamviewr trusted?
[18:02] <Hulio> and teamviewer can monitor your screen ?
[18:02] <ash_workz> afaiac, it's trusted; and, explain 'monitor' ... meaning *you* can see your screen, or TeamViewer can?
[18:03] <Hulio> ash_workz, so it's like i'm using teamviewr(imaging your program) to remote desktop..and you can see what i'm doing nbecause i use your pgoram?
[18:03] <Hulio> yeah
[18:04] <ash_workz> Hulio: team viewer is intended for both remote 'help' and remote access, so yeah... the way it works is a password/username combo is generated on the host machine when teamviewer is launched...
[18:04] <Hulio> ash_workz, i know man, but having third party, is that third party can tab in
[18:05] <Hulio> ash_workz, posbibly it records the screen
[18:05] <ash_workz> Hulio: yeah; I mean, that's up to you: https://www.teamviewer.com/en/privacy-policy/
[18:06] <Hulio> ash_workz, would prefer standalone
[18:06] <Hulio> :)
[18:07] <Hulio> ash_workz, It's like being watch when taking a shower
[18:09] <ash_workz> ↑2U
[18:10] <ash_workz> `apt-get install linux-headers-3.13.0-117-generic` claims there's no installation candidate
[18:10] <ash_workz> what gives?
[18:10] <ppf> !info linux-headers-3.13.0-117-generic
[18:11] <Sleaker> ash_workz: that's a trusty package?
[18:11] <Sleaker> and it's one from trusty-security
[18:12] <ash_workz> Sleaker: okay... well, lsb_release reports xenial... why is uname -r giving me a trusty package?
[18:12] <cristian_c> !info linux-headers-3.13.0-117 trusty
[18:12] <Sleaker> what's uname -a say?
[18:13] <Sleaker> also those aren't packages, they are what's installed.
[18:13] <ash_workz> Linux web 3.13.0-117-generic
[18:13] <Sleaker> that's not -a
[18:13] <ppf> also, "web"??
[18:13] <ash_workz> I just subbed the name
[18:14] <Sleaker> Linux lube 3.13.0-119-generic #166-Ubuntu SMP Wed May 3 12:19:45 UTC 2017 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux - is what's on my VM atm.
[18:14] <ash_workz> Linux example 3.13.0-117-generic #164-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 7 11:05:26 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[18:14] <ppf> okay
[18:15] <ppf> !info linux-image-generic xenial
[18:15] <ppf> looks like you haven't updated your kernel in quite some time
[18:16] <Sleaker> I mean, you only get the kernel updates if you manually install them from the backports repos
[18:16] <Sleaker> if you only do security updates you stay on the same kernel version
[18:16] <Sleaker> and the new kernel version bumps don't auto-install, they're tagged into different meta packages.
[18:17] <Sleaker> ah sorry, they're not in backports. they're just named different
[18:17] <ppf> yeah, if you don't track linux-image-generic you're set to one version
[18:17] <Sleaker> !info linux-image-generic trusty
[18:17] <Sleaker> even if you track image-generic you're stuck on one version
[18:17] <Sleaker> the other ones have -lts-xenial
[18:18] <ash_workz> I am... confused
[18:18] <Sleaker> !info linux-image-generic-lts-xenial trusty
[18:18] <Sleaker> like that.
[18:18] <Sleaker> ash_workz: what version of ubuntu did you actually install originally, it looks like you may be on trusty.
[18:18] <Sleaker> kernel 3.13 was never available on anything after trusty.
[18:18] <ash_workz> 16.04 I believe (I wasn't the one who installed it actually)
[18:18] <Sleaker> I don't think that' possible.
[18:18] <ash_workz> and this was like... December last year
[18:19] <ppf> could still have been 14.04
[18:19] <Sleaker> 14.04 is still an LTS.
[18:19] <ash_workz> then lsb_release -a is wrong?
[18:19] <Sleaker> what's in your sources.list?
[18:19] <Sleaker> pastebin would be good.
[18:21] <Sleaker> pretty much not possible to be on kernel 3.13 and have installed 16.04 from a disc.
[18:21] <Sleaker> unless someone really messed up your system.
[18:22] <Sleaker> if they took a 14.04 disc and then tried to update to 16.04, I'd also say the system is probably not in a good state.
[18:22] <ash_workz> https://gist.github.com/ash-m/ffd3427ac6d38e677707d3e947854239
[18:23] <ppf> there are precise artifacts in there. you sure this is a fresh install?
[18:24] <dwigton> Anyway to reset my mouse driver without rebooting? pointer shows and moves, but no events register. 16.04
[18:24] <ash_workz> ppf: I am not sure of anything; I didn't install it; I do see that there... maybe he started on 12 and just did do-release-upgrade from there
[18:24] <ash_workz> I dunno
[18:24] <ash_workz> this is the first time I'm noticing this
[18:25] <ppf> dpkg -l | grep 'linux-image-.*-generic' -o | sort | uniq
[18:31] <Sleaker> ash_workz: my guess is it was originally a precise install, and it's been attempted to be kept on the latest LTS by uprading. which I thought was a no-no.
[18:31] <ash_workz> Sleaker: that's a possibility
[18:31] <elisa87> do you know the answer to my question? https://askubuntu.com/questions/922425/purple-theme-for-bash-on-ubuntu-on-windows-for-windows-10
[18:33] <Sleaker> ash_workz: what was your initial issue?
[18:33] <ash_workz> Sleaker: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[18:33] <leftyfb> elisa87: the purple theme has to do with gnome-terminal or even something like terminator. It will be specific to the terminal application. In your case, bash for Windows isn't exactly a terminal application.
[18:34] <elisa87> :( leftyfb
[18:34] <Sleaker> yah I just use git bash still.
[18:35] <Sleaker> on my windows box, so no clue. but my instincts tell me you wont get the theming you're looking for.
[18:35] <elisa87> git bash doesn't have all the functionalities I want
[18:35] <Sleaker> questionable.
[18:41] <Meliorator> hi all, I'm having trouble getting Ubuntu to boot on an older Intel motherboard. I read that some people resolved the issue by adding the bootable flag, so I used fdisk to set that in the nested hybrid MBR partition (GPT), but it still does not boot. It seems me setting the bootable flag does not survive a restart (despite me writing changes to disk), please help!
[18:43] <nicomachus> can "cp" use an input file to copy a list of directories to another location?
[18:44] <compdoc> Meliorator, if theres an option for ACPI in the bios and its enabled, try disabling it
[18:45] <luis30> i thought kernel 4.12 was scheduled to be released today..anyone know anything about that?
[18:47] <nicomachus> luis30: not until July, last I heard.
[18:47] <Meliorator> compdoc: disabling ACPI in BIOS did not solve it
[18:47] <nicomachus> luis30: http://news.softpedia.com/news/linus-torvalds-announces-the-second-release-candidate-of-the-linux-4-12-kernel-515899.shtml
[18:47] <luis30> nicomachus, well maybe it was a different kernel update because they said they were goig to release something today if there were not any major issues
[18:48] <nicomachus> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[18:48] <ppf> nicomachus: cp $(<file) target
[18:48] <ppf> assuming the file is relatively short
[18:49] <compdoc> Meliorator, you cant even boot the ubuntu desktop directly from the cd?
[18:49] <Southern_Gentlem> nicomachus, according to kernel.org they are up to rc4
[18:49] <Meliorator> compdoc: I am using the server install cd, which I can boot fine, but the installed o/s does not!
[18:50] <Meliorator> *16.04LTS server
[18:50] <bluewhitew> Meliorator: wow you use GPT?
[18:50] <nicomachus> ppf: looking at about 50 lines, each is a separate directory.
[18:50] <bluewhitew> *thy
[18:50] <bluewhitew> *why
[18:50] <ppf> nicomachus: ok
[18:50] <compdoc> Meliorator, at what point does it stop? does it start to boot?
[18:51] <nicomachus> Southern_Gentlem: sounds about right. rc3 was 31/05/17. Still looking at a July release for the kernel though.
[18:51] <fadavi> anyone can help me to solve these dmesg errors? http://paste.ubuntu.com/24786003/
[18:51] <fadavi> [    3.559398] tpm_crb MSFT0101:00: can't request region for resource [mem 0xfed40080-0xfed40fff]
[18:51] <fadavi> [    3.708951] iwlwifi 0000:02:00.0: pci_enable_msi failed - -22
[18:52] <Meliorator> compdoc: no, I don't see grub or anything, I just get "insert boot disk"
[18:52] <kenrin> install the wireless driver
[18:52] <fadavi> kenrin: already installed
[18:53] <kenrin> Got the wrong one then O.o
[18:53] <ash_workz> ppf: btw the output of that dpkg command was
[18:53] <ash_workz> linux-image-3.2.0-{23..126} # !{24,25,28,30,42,46,47,49,50,66,71,73,78,81,100,103,105,108,112,114,117}
[18:53] <ash_workz> linux-image-{4.4.0-77-generic,extra-3.13.0-117-generic,extra-4.4.0-77-generic,}-generic
[18:53] <ppf> nicomachus: it's not really about number of lines, but file size in byte (because ARG_MAX). but with 50 lines you should be good
[18:53] <ash_workz> oops
[18:53] <ppf> if you exceed ARG_MAX, then xargs is your friend
[18:54] <ash_workz> Ilinux-image-{4.4.0-77,extra-3.13.0-117,extra-4.4.0-77}-generic *
[18:54] <compdoc> Meliorator, in the bios, the hdd is set to boot first? most computers have a boot menu to choose what to boot from. for some, you have to hit the f11 key during boot. should say on the screen
[18:56] <nicomachus> ppf: since my list is directories and not files, would I do cp -r $(<file) target?
[18:56] <ppf> yeah
[18:56] <nicomachus> ok.
[18:57] <Meliorator> compdoc: yes, it's the same if all other boot methods are disabled
[18:57] <nicomachus> aaaand now we wait. Thanks ppf. I'm sure I'll be back in a bit to make sure I get my for loop right to convert all these wily FLACs into MP3
[18:58] <Meliorator> compdoc: it seems to be a common issue with older Intel motherboards, but the fixes google told me didn't work :(
[18:59] <nicomachus> oh great. I forgot to escape spaces on the directory list.
[19:02] <nicomachus> ppf: ok, escaping the spaces doesn't work either. Any idea why?
[19:02] <ppf> escaping them how?
[19:02] <leftyfb> luis30: just because Linux releases a kernel, does not mean it's available in any version of Ubuntu the same day.
[19:02] <nicomachus> file\ name
[19:05] <luis30> leftyfb, well today was the day they said it was supposed to be released...not sure if they are talking about proposed or a general release..
[19:05] <luis30> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1674838
[19:05] <ppf> nicomachus: yeah that doesn't work
[19:05] <nicomachus> ppf: oh well, I'm doing it manually.
[19:05] <ppf> try xargs
[19:06] <luis30> comment 194...
[19:06] <nicomachus> There's only 16 directories that it didn't catch because of the name errors. I can do those manually.
[19:06] <leftyfb> luis30: what kernel are you running now?
[19:07] <luis30> not sure...its probably whatever is for general release...i have been doing the gui updates
[19:07] <luis30> leftyfb, whats the command i can check
[19:07] <nicomachus> uname -r
[19:07] <leftyfb> luis30: Do you run into this bug?
[19:07] <luis30> yes
[19:08] <ioria> nicomachus, i think you need a little script, like this  while read file; do cp -R "$file" test; done < ultra
[19:08] <ppf> nah, just xargs
[19:08] <nicomachus> not worth the time now, tbh
[19:08] <ppf> xargs -a file --delimiter='\n' -I% cp % dir
[19:09] <ioria> nicomachus, sy,    while read file; do cp -R "$file" test; done < file
[19:09] <luis30> leftyfb, comment #134
[19:09] <leftyfb> luis30: "uname -r"    which kernel are you running? And do you have the proposed repository enabled?
[19:10] <nicomachus> ioria: thank you, but I'm already almost done doing it manually.
[19:10] <ioria> nicomachus, ok
[19:10] <luis30> 4.10.0-21-generic leftyfb
[19:10] <ppf> i think xargs is wildly underestimated :)
[19:10] <leftyfb> luis30: do you have proposed enabled?
[19:10] <luis30> leftyfb, is comment #134 talking about proposed or general release and no i dont think i have proposed selected..
[19:10] <nicomachus> if you wanna take a stab at a "for" loopt o convert any .flac files in this directory and sub-directories and turning them into 320 mp33, that would be a good start for my next step here.
[19:11] <nicomachus> I've done it before, just gotta get it right.
[19:11] <ppf> what are you converting them with?
[19:11] <nicomachus> LAME I suppose.
[19:11] <nicomachus> or ffmpeg
[19:11] <nicomachus> i don't remember what I used last time I loaded this USB
[19:11] <leftyfb> luis30: if you are running into the bug and want it fixed now, then you are probably better of enabling the proposed repo. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed
[19:12] <luis30> leftyfb, any way to know if that release ..comment #134 may occur today?
[19:12] <ppf> nicomachus: is there really a way to do this wrongly?
[19:12] <leftyfb> luis30: no
[19:12] <ppf> it depends a bit on how the tool works
[19:12] <leftyfb> luis30: if the dev says it's scheduled today, it'll probably, but not certainly happen and you will just have to wait
[19:13] <ppf> use find, or a bash loop
[19:13] <ppf> i guess
[19:13] <luis30> leftyfb, what happens if i enable it and download it and then turn it off ..then it will revert to the next general kernel release?
[19:13] <nicomachus> ppf: yea, I could end up converting all the MP3 files too. Or screw it up completely and convert every FLAC on my laptop to MP3.
[19:13] <leftyfb> luis30: no
[19:13] <leftyfb> luis30: I always enable proposed. You shouldn't have any problems leaving it enabled and updating packages from it.
[19:14] <luis30> leftyfb, proposed is like testing right? beta?
[19:16] <leftyfb> luis30: it's more fixes that do not get pushed to the main repo just yet. It won't be cutting edge new features that brick your system.
[19:16] <luis30> leftyfb, what happens if its take off later?
[19:16] <leftyfb> huh?
[19:17] <luis30> what happens if proposed it turned off
[19:17] <luis30> after being on for a while
[19:17] <leftyfb> nothing
[19:17] <leftyfb> luis30: you stop pulling updates from proposed
[19:18] <luis30> and then it goes back onto the general release cycle?
[19:18] <leftyfb> yes
[19:18] <luis30> k thanks
[19:19] <leftyfb> until the version in the "general release cycle" supersede the version in proposed. Then that version gets installed.
[19:19] <Herdo> am I doing something wrong here?  I can't seem to update this expired key for the arc-gtk-theme http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/Horst3180/xUbuntu_16.04/
[19:20] <Herdo> maybe it's a problem on the maintainers end?
[19:20] <leftyfb> Herdo: that is usually the case
[19:21] <Herdo> leftyfb: ah ok.  I noticed the .key file hasn't been updated recently.
[19:21] <Herdo> thank you
[19:22] <Adit> Does it matter if I install bootloader onto sda1 or sda?
[19:22] <ppf> Adit: no
[19:22] <ppf> wait
[19:22] <ppf> sda
[19:22] <ppf> didn't read that question properly
[19:23] <Adit> ppf: I want to completely remove Ubuntu in a few days so, what would be better?
[19:23] <ppf> than removing ubuntu?
[19:24] <Adit> ppf: I mean, would installing bootloader onto any one of these pose any problems if I want to completely wipe off Ubuntu and grub?
[19:24] <leftyfb> Adit: there's really no point in "removing ubuntu". Just install whatever OS on your hard drive and more than likely it'll take care of it's own boot loader
[19:24] <ppf> the future system doesn't care
[19:25] <ppf> but a bootloader gets installed on a device, not a partition
[19:25] <ppf> i.e., sda
[19:25] <leftyfb> well
[19:25] <leftyfb> you CAN install it on a partition
[19:25] <Adit> leftyfb: I did that on my previous machine but I am a real noob and I messed up something with BIOS and UEFI and Windows never loaded
[19:26] <leftyfb> Adit: what is your end goal?
[19:26] <heller> how about now
[19:26] <Adit> leftyfb: Have some OS on my computer for a few days before I get Windows 10
[19:27] <sebsebseb> I think it used to just work as long as mi ro usb  cable was in right,  but now my Meizue MX 4 ubuntu phone nope not working,  want to get files off of it.  not working with two difeenrdt cables in ububntu and windows hmm
[19:27] <heller> so, windows laptop. trying to save it with ubuntu. force mounting claims to give me an error about hardwarefault. i guess its gone?
[19:27] <leftyfb> Adit: then it won't matter. When you install Windows 10, it will not care in the least bit what is currently on your computer and by default will want to wipe everything and never look back
[19:28] <Adit> leftyfb: Will it also wipe the other partitions? (I have some data on them)
[19:28] <leftyfb> heller: bad HDD more than likely
[19:28] <leftyfb> Adit: that's a #windows question
[19:28] <Adit> leftyfb: Thanks
[19:28] <heller> leftyfb: wondering if there is anything i can do?
[19:28] <leftyfb> heller: buy a new HDD
[19:29] <heller> eh, would like to save data
[19:29] <leftyfb> heller: buy new HDD, worry about saving data after
[19:30] <leftyfb> heller: you do not want to be running the OS on the drive you're trying to save data from .... as much as possible. For best results of saving data
[19:30] <heller> lets try again. i need to recover data from that drive :)
[19:30] <luis30> anyone know if this kernel is the latest stable release for ubuntu 4.10.0-21-generic
[19:30] <luis30> ...on this page ive seen 4.11 already release... http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/?C=N;O=D
[19:31] <luis30> 17.04
[19:32] <leftyfb> luis30: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=linux-generic
[19:32] <ioria> !info linux-generic
[19:33] <luis30> thanks
[19:33] <leftyfb> luis30: Install from proposed or just be patient. Those are your 2 options. If you are only willing to wait for the general release, then please just be patient and do nothing else.
[19:33] <luis30> oh i have been patient seth is the one who said today...that is why i was asking...
[19:34] <luis30> this has been going on since zesty was released
[19:40] <Adit> What am I doing wrong? http://imgur.com/a/RcWh2
[19:40] <EriC^^> Adit: you need to make a root partition
[19:41] <EriC^^> Adit: click on the free space and press on "+"
[19:41] <leftyfb> Adit: you didn't specify a mount point for either of the partitions
[19:41] <EriC^^> choose ext4, mountpoint "/"
[19:41] <leftyfb> why did you choose ntfs?
[19:41] <ioria> Adit, and why are you using the manual partitioning  ?
[19:41] <leftyfb> that will not work for an Ubunut installation
[19:41] <Adit> leftyfb: I want to get Windows later on
[19:41] <Dreaman> ubuntu ntfs
[19:41] <Dreaman> ahahha
[19:42] <leftyfb> Adit: are you going to wipe ubuntu and put windows on it?
[19:42] <Adit> leftyfb: Yes
[19:42] <leftyfb> then you do not need to create those as I told you before
[19:42] <ioria> Adit, you can resize after the install
[19:42] <Dreaman> see the real drive part swap  /boot  /   is a root
[19:42] <Dreaman> and install
[19:42] <leftyfb> ioria: there won't be any resizing. He's just going to wipe ubuntu with Windows
[19:43] <leftyfb> Adit: just do a default ubuntu install. Forget about the partitioning
[19:43] <ioria> leftyfb, sy, i'am not following
[19:43] <Dreaman> dual boot is /part is good for me
[19:43] <leftyfb> Adit: forget about the manual partitioning I mean
[19:43] <leftyfb> ioria: he's not going to dual boot
[19:43] <ioria> ok
[19:43] <leftyfb> ioria: his plan is to install ubuntu now, and then install Windows later. ... over ubuntu
[19:43] <ioria> ok
[19:43] <Dreaman> not good
[19:44] <Dreaman> idea
[19:44] <leftyfb> whatever
[19:44] <Adit> Would I lose data in sda2 if I go for a default install?
[19:44] <Dreaman> but
[19:44] <ioria> no, i mean, nor ok
[19:44] <Dreaman> farst win secand ubuntu
[19:45] <leftyfb> Dreaman: he's not dual booting
[19:45] <leftyfb> ever
[19:45] <Dreaman> ahhaha
[19:45] <Adit> So, what do I do?
[19:45] <FManTropyx> stupid Ubuntu disconnected me again
[19:46] <ioria> Adit, what you wanna do ?
[19:46] <Adit> ioria: Install Ubuntu onto sda1 without losing the data in sda2
[19:46] <ioria> Adit, what's on sda2 ?
[19:46] <Dreaman> https://paste.ubuntu.com/24786529/  leftyfb  see my
[19:47] <leftyfb> Dreaman: ok?
[19:47] <Adit> ioria: Data I don't want to lose. No OS
[19:47] <ioria> Adit, what ubuntu veriosn ?
[19:47] <ioria> version
[19:47] <Adit> 16.04
[19:49] <ioria> Adit, ok, so set root on sda1  and format ext4 (without swap i guess ? )
[19:50] <Adit> ioria: Can I not do that on ntfs? Someone said that it might be difficult to get Windows on an ext4
[19:50] <leftyfb> :/
[19:51] <ioria> Adit, you'll install windows on another partition
[19:51] <leftyfb> no
[19:51] <leftyfb> ioria: no
[19:51] <ioria> why ?
[19:51] <Dreaman> format and 2 parts add hdd
[19:51] <Dreaman> 1 for win 2 ubuntu
[19:51] <leftyfb> Adit: As I said 2 times previously, Windows doesn't care what was on the drive/partition previously. You said you are going to be wiping Ubuntu and installing Windows over it. At that time, then Windows will format it to ntfs, wiping Ubuntu(ext4) completely.
[19:51] <ioria> Adit,  you'll need to reinstall grub btw
[19:52] <leftyfb> no no no
[19:52] <leftyfb> ioria: he is not dual booting
[19:52] <leftyfb> ioria: he will be installing Windows OVER Ubuntu
[19:52] <ioria> leftyfb, he said he wants to install win after ubu
[19:52] <ioria> yeah
[19:52] <leftyfb> after, yes. side by side, no
[19:52] <kenrin> Why would you install after?
[19:52] <Dreaman> grub not work
[19:53] <ioria> leftyfb, idk why, but it's possible
[19:53] <Dreaman> manual
[19:53] <Dreaman> conf
[19:53] <ioria> leftyfb, resize root and install win, reinatll grub ... right ?
[19:53] <leftyfb> he said previously he's using Ubuntu temporarily until such time he will install Windows over it
[19:53] <leftyfb> no
[19:53] <ash_workz> so how do I get the right headers?
[19:53] <ioria> ok, i'am out then
[19:53] <leftyfb> Install Ubuntu to sda1 ... rejoice. Then later, install Windows to sda1
[19:54] <Adit> leftyfb: Thanks
[19:55] <ash_workz> Sleaker: oh, I missed your question I guess
[19:55] <leftyfb> Adit: install Ubuntu to sda1. Format it as ext4 and make it the / mount point. When you are ready to install Windows, go to #windows for help. If you follow these instructions, nothing you did will affect your Windows installation later.
[19:56] <ash_workz> Sleaker: my initial problem is that a psql randomly keeps spawning
[19:57] <ash_workz> Sleaker: the ppid's command is `-su` so I checked that, and it's ppid is 1; so I was told to use sysdig
[19:57] <ash_workz> Sleaker: which won't install correctly
[19:58] <Sleaker> hmm my VM locks up when booting to lightdm.
[19:58] <Sleaker> not good :-/
[20:01] <ash_workz> is there an apt command that shows what distro a kernel is associated with?
[20:01] <ash_workz> ie 3.13.0-117-generic is 'trusty' right?
[20:01] <Sleaker> ash_workz: yes.
[20:01] <ash_workz> Sleaker: what is it?
[20:01] <Sleaker> if it was another distro it'd have -trusty next to.
[20:02] <ash_workz> wait, wha?
[20:02] <Sleaker> ash_workz: the base kernel released for each version is just named 'linux-blah-version'
[20:02] <Sleaker> backported versions include the name of the release they came from
[20:02] <ash_workz> so -generic means...?
[20:02] <Sleaker> eg, the kernel backport from xenial into trusty includes -lts-xenial
[20:02] <Sleaker> -generic is just the generic kernel
[20:03] <Sleaker> there's different types of kernels.
[20:03] <leftyfb> Sleaker: that is only true for LTS kernels
[20:03] <Sleaker> different kernel options turned on, etc.
[20:03] <Sleaker> leftyfb: it's true for non-lts.
[20:03] <Sleaker> don't the other ones just omit the '-lts'
[20:03] <ash_workz> so, does it make sense that I'm using linux-image-3.13.0-117-generic with xenial?
[20:04] <Sleaker> ash_workz: no, it's impossible.
[20:04] <leftyfb> :/
[20:04] <Sleaker> it means you updated to trusty. then updated to xenial minus the kernel.
[20:04] <MonkeyDust> 3.13 is for 12.04, iirc
[20:04] <Sleaker> MonkeyDust: 3.13 is for trusty
[20:04] <Sleaker> !info linux-generic precise
[20:05] <ash_workz> Sleaker: okay, so judging from the statement "3.13 is for trusty" implies that you could look up linux-image-3.13.0-117-generic using an apt command and spit out 'trusty' ?
[20:06] <ash_workz> Sleaker: also, if it's impossible to use linux-image-3.13.0-117-generic with xenial then how is it possible to update to "xenial minus the kernel"
[20:06] <ash_workz> ?
[20:06] <Sleaker> ash_workz: it's impossible in the sense that if you do a base install of xenial you can't have that kernel.
[20:06] <ash_workz> Sleaker: okay
[20:06] <Sleaker> it also means that someone tried to update your machine to xenial (since it's in your apt sources), but they didn't do it right or get all the way done with it.
[20:07] <leftyfb> or they just installed that kernel
[20:07] <leftyfb> which is possible
[20:07] <ash_workz> Sleaker: so firstly, what is the apt command that'll show me the kernel-distro correlation (distro = 'trusty' right?)
[20:07] <Sleaker> or they installed everything *but* the kernel.
[20:08] <Sleaker> ash_workz: you can't get it from apt.
[20:08] <ash_workz> also, could this have happened during a failed do-release-upgrade ?
[20:08] <Sleaker> you have to go lookup the what kernels were actually released for which versions.
[20:08] <ash_workz> Sleaker: okay, well, where can I get it from?
[20:08] <Sleaker> 3.13 was only every released in trusty, and then for HWE.
[20:08] <leftyfb> ash_workz: apt-cache policy <package name> ; you'll be able to see what repo it was installed from
[20:09] <ash_workz> hwe?
[20:09] <leftyfb> what about it?
[20:09] <ash_workz> what's that?
[20:10] <Sleaker> hardware enablement
[20:10] <leftyfb> hardware enabledment
[20:10] <leftyfb> er
[20:10] <leftyfb> yeah
[20:10] <ash_workz> leftyfb: I didn't see the repo with that command
[20:10] <leftyfb> ash_workz: what did you see?
[20:10] <ash_workz> linux-image-3.13.0-117-generic:
[20:10] <leftyfb> paste it to pastebin
[20:10] <ash_workz>   Installed: 3.13.0-117.164
[20:10] <ash_workz>   Candidate: 3.13.0-117.164
[20:10] <ash_workz>   Version table:
[20:10] <leftyfb> paste it to pastebin
[20:10] <ash_workz>  *** 3.13.0-117.164 100
[20:10] <ash_workz>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[20:11] <Sleaker> ash_workz: - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/FAQ - for info on kernel versions and which release has them initially and then where it is backported to be available in.
[20:11] <leftyfb> so that kernel was either installed from a .deb manually (downloaded) or maybe like Sleaker said, you attempted some sort of upgrade but it didn't work and it was left there
[20:11] <Sleaker> and how long it's supposed.
[20:11] <Sleaker> supported*
[20:11] <leftyfb> ash_workz: when you're able to post here again (because you pasted too much. Use pastebin) what exactly are you trying to accomplish?
[20:12] <Sleaker> I think ash_workz had issues with installing more packages as they were investigating an issue and told to get sysdig for it.
[20:12] <ash_workz> my initial problem is that a psql randomly keeps spawning; the ppid's command is `-su` so I checked that, and it's ppid is 1; so I was told to use sysdig which won't install correctly
[20:13] <Sleaker> my suggested fix is to backup and reinstall.
[20:13] <leftyfb> ash_workz: it sounds like you have a pretty unstable installation
[20:13] <leftyfb> I agree
[20:13] <ash_workz> awesome
[20:13] <ash_workz> :\
[20:14] <ash_workz> anyway, could this have happened from a failed do-release-upgrade?
[20:14] <leftyfb> ash_workz: mind you, this is being suggested because I do not think you currently possess the knowledge/experience to fix this situation and the amount of time it would take us to figure out your situation and walk you though fixing it is not worth anyones time
[20:15] <ash_workz> burn
[20:15] <leftyfb> it's not meant as a burn
[20:15] <ash_workz> ^ deeper burn
[20:15] <leftyfb> if you were able to fix this on your own, you wouldn't be here
[20:16] <leftyfb> it's fixable. You'd be surprised what is fixable. The question is, do you want to spend hours/days fixing it or maybe a half hour installing a fresh system that's up to date and functional
[20:17] <ash_workz> that depends on how bad the burn is the next time I'm in here
[20:17] <ash_workz> :p
[20:18] <ash_workz> but I mean I am surprised... I didn't think `do-release-upgrade` was something unreliable
[20:18] <ash_workz> live and learn
[20:19] <kenrin> This is the first time you've had a bad upgrade?  wow
[20:23] <Sleaker> yah I was going to mention that I thought do-release-upgrade was just generally unreliable.
[20:24] <oerheks> do-release-upgrade always worked for me :-D
[20:24] <oerheks> you must have a funny config, ash_workz
[20:24] <kenrin> If you stick to default and don't customize anything,  maybe it is reliable
[20:25] <ash_workz> oerheks: o/
[20:34] <Nick---_> DArqueBishop: i installed the bot using the system provided python and it worked. thanks.
[20:35] <DArqueBishop> Nick---_: no problem.
[21:02] <pakcjo> hello
[21:03] <pakcjo> update-initramfs isn't adding plymouth, is there a package i may be missin?
[21:03] <pakcjo> missing*
[21:35] <annihilator> err:mscoree:LoadLibraryShim error reading registry key for installroot
[21:35] <annihilator> i get that when trying to install warframe.  i am not trying to install as root
[21:36] <oerheks> warframe sounds like a windows something, are you installing that with wine?
[21:36] <annihilator> yes
[21:37] <annihilator> i found install guides but cant find a fix for the error that works.  when i do a dpkg-query it says wine is not installed but when i look at software app it shows it is installed.....
[21:39] <oerheks> for wine issues, join the winehq channel, else see this game on steam http://store.steampowered.com/app/230410/Warframe/
[21:39] <oerheks> !wine
[21:41] <dedze> Hello is someone here please?
[21:41] <dedze> Please can someone read me?
[21:41] <annihilator> thank you
[21:42] <rypervenche> dedze: We hear you.
[21:42] <dedze> I have a problem can you help me please?
[21:42] <haylon> dedze, just ask your question, there are lots of people here
[21:42] <dedze> It's so stressing
[21:42] <dedze> I'm being so paranoid maybe I dont know
[21:43] <dedze> I think my windows system was infected by a hacker
[21:43] <dedze> So I installed ubuntu a few days ago
[21:43] <oerheks> dedze, easy on the enter please
[21:44] <rypervenche> dedze: Please try to explain your issue in one message. :)
[21:44] <dedze> And now I was on a random chat on a website (about go game), and a sentence that I had written on reddit was posted on the chat, I posted it unless I didn't
[21:44] <dedze> Is my ubuntu being hacked too?
[21:45] <dedze> I apologize for my 100 messages, with that thing with qatar im so stressed today
[21:46] <rypervenche> dedze: I would think that that is more like you accidentally pasted it in that chat.
[21:46] <dedze> I thought about that too, so I pressed ctrl + v and it was a youtube link
[21:47] <dedze> Are there other ways to paste it on ubuntu?
[21:47] <haylon> CTRL+SHIFT+V
[21:47] <haylon> if you're using terminal
[21:48] <rypervenche> dedze: middle click as well, on your mouse will paste whatever you last highlighted.
[21:48] <toresbe> Hey guys. What's the oldest possible kernel you could run 16.04 on, anybody know?
[21:49] <toresbe> Some gentoo documentation suggests it might be 2.6.39.
[21:49] <rypervenche> toresbe: Perhaps the question should be asked. What would this be for?
[21:49] <bekks> toresbe: Why dont you use a current kernel instead?
[21:49] <toresbe> rypervenche: I have an oddball mini ITX embedded thing, with some custom hardware I want to reverse-engineer.
[21:50] <toresbe> rypervenche: I've installed 16.04 on its IDE drive using a USB adapter. I get into GRUB, GRUB loads the kernel, then nothing for a few seconds before a reboot.
[21:50] <kk4ewt> and what if the new kernels have already have the reverse engineered
[21:51] <kk4ewt> and what is the processor of this device
[21:51] <dedze> rypervenche: omg thank you so much, it makes total sence because I pasted the sentence that I deleted before changed it
[21:51] <oerheks> toresbe, unlikely that will run older kernels, try 14.04 ? still supported
[21:51] <toresbe> oerheks: yeah, it's just that I've already installed 16.04 on this dog-slow drive :P want to try to salvage it + have a recent-ish userspace
[21:51] <rypervenche> dedze: Welcome to the wonderful world of Linux :)
[21:52] <toresbe> kk4ewt: I don't know yet, because I can't read /proc/cpuinfo :)
[21:52] <compdoc> theres a linux world?! Cool!!!
[21:52] <kk4ewt> toresbe, you cant google the specs on the device?
[21:53] <toresbe> kk4ewt: not at the level I need; it's a turnkey device.
[21:53] <dedze> rypervenche: thank you, btw for security, i did sudo ufw enable and I downloaded the updates of the system and downloaded noscript extension on firefox but I did all of that after a few hours of using the internet, should I do a fresh install just in case? I apologize so much, I'm so stressed out about everything
[21:54] <toresbe> kk4ewt: it's a 1GHz VIA C7.
[21:54] <rypervenche> dedze: No, no need to reinstall.
[21:57] <stochastix> I had one install of ubuntu that had sshd installed by default, and another that didnt for some reason. I installed the metapackage ssh, and about 5 or 6 packages came in with it including openssh-server, which I assume is the package that sets up the sshd.service for systemd right?   I was playing with puppet and uninstalled ssh ,  and then openssh-server, to try to get puppet to redo it all.  However, I cant seem to get my sshd.service back
[21:57] <stochastix> for systemd? Any ideas?  I have openssh-server installed , but there is now systemd files for it it seems?
[21:57] <stochastix> no systemd files*
[22:06] <stochastix> anyone know what package is supposed to supply the systemd unit files for ssh?
[22:07] <nacc> stochastix: openssh-server, afaict
[22:07] <nacc> stochastix: it's ssh.service, fwiw
[22:08] <stochastix> no, the server is sshd.service, i am looking at it in another system right here that does have it
[22:08] <nacc> stochastix: what version of ubuntu
[22:08] <stochastix> I cant seem to get it back into this system here, after uninstalling it once and reinstalling it
[22:08] <stochastix> 16.04
[22:09] <nacc> stochastix: sshd.service is not a known file in 16.04, afaict
[22:11] <nacc> stochastix: apt-file or dpkg -S would help
[22:11] <stochastix> I have sshd.service, ssh.service, and ssh.socket
[22:11] <stochastix> nacc: yea, I have one box here with it working so i can try to figure out where it got it from
[22:13] <nacc> stochastix: i just checked apt-file on xenial and it doesn't find it -- i guess it could be generated, but it really is ssh.service for the server (on 16.04 and 17.04)
[22:13] <nacc> stochastix: ssh@.service does exist
[22:13] <stochastix> It was there and working, before I uninstalled ssh
[22:14] <stochastix> it is a fresh install too
[22:14] <stochastix> hmm
[22:14] <nacc> stochastix: i just spun up a 16.04 container and it's not there
[22:14] <stochastix> install the ssh sudo package once
[22:14] <nacc> stochastix: it == sshd.service
[22:15] <stochastix> sorry, i mean metapacakge lol
[22:16] <nacc> stochastix: installed ssh, still no sshd.service
[22:16] <stochastix> this is weird
[22:16] <nacc> stochastix: the ssh metapackage itself has basically no contents
[22:16] <stochastix> I know, it installs openssh-client and openssh-server right?
[22:16] <Ussat> Having a issue with Ubuntu 17,in vmware workstation. I have open-vm tools installed, but can not copy/paste between the two
[22:17] <Ussat> ideas ?
[22:17] <stochastix> I had a few other things get pulled in with it though
[22:17] <nacc> stochastix: yes, it just depends on those two packages (which might pull stuff in themselves)
[22:17] <nacc> stochastix: your server that has a sshd.service, what owns it?
[22:17] <stochastix> how can I find out
[22:18] <nacc> stochastix: dpkg -S /lib/systemd/system/sshd.service
[22:18] <nacc> stochastix: presuming that is the file you are looking for
[22:20] <stochastix> nacc: lol, i di an ls -la in /etc/systemd  , and quiess what
[22:20] <stochastix> sshd.service -> /lib/systemd/system/ssh.service
[22:20] <stochastix> just a link lol
[22:20] <stochastix> and it seems ssh.service should be in the system dir
[22:20] <nacc> stochastix: /etc/systemd should not have a service fil ein it
[22:20] <stochastix> let me look for it on the other system that seems to be missing stuff
[22:21] <nacc> stochastix: that appears to be a generated file i think
[22:22] <stochastix> nacc: well, this system that i am finding it on is not a brand new install, but i dont have a lot of things on it, but something I installed must have added it
[22:22] <nacc> stochastix: yeah -- was it possibly on 16.04 before 16.04 released?
[22:22] <nacc> stochastix: there might have been a bug at some point
[22:23] <stochastix> nacc: however, like I said, on the new install, the very first time i installed the ssh metapackage, I believe the sshd.service showed up when I did systemctl ssh   and tebbed a few times
[22:23] <stochastix> I forgot the "start" but you get what i mean
[22:24] <nacc> stochastix: right, sshd.service is an alias to ssh.service I think
[22:24] <nacc> stochastix: in /etc/systemd/system (which i was saying was generated)
[22:24] <nacc> stochastix: (I think)
[22:25] <stochastix> nacc: I made a mistake sorry.  The sshd.service link was in /etc/systemd/system
[22:26] <stochastix> but i dont have it on this one system, which has openssh-server installed
[22:26] <annihilator> lib32-openal', 'lib32-libxml2', 'lib32-mpg123', 'lib32-giflib', 'lib32-libpng', and 'lib32-gnutls'  what are the alts to these
[22:26] <nacc> stochastix: yeah, i think that's a generated, but i'm not sure
[22:27] <nacc> annihilator: alts?
[22:27] <annihilator> i need to install them but it cannot find it
[22:27] <stochastix> nacc: ok, I do have the service files for it in /lib/systemd/system
[22:28] <stochastix> nacc: do you know of a way to get it to regenerate everything the way it would on a brand new install?
[22:28] <kk4ewt> lib-opanal
[22:28] <nacc> stochastix: i'm not sure :/
[22:30] <stochastix> nacc: should i not be using apt-get or is that ok?
[22:34] <coffeeguy>  apt has a pretty progress bar :)
[22:34] <coffeeguy> which is awesome :D
[22:34] <coffeeguy>  sudo apt update <-- is life
[22:34] <mas886> What's #ubuntu-unregged channel'
[22:35] <coffeeguy> means you're not registered with freenode
[22:35] <mas886> Okay
[22:36] <stochastix> another insteresting anomaly. I never go links to ssh.service and socket either, like I am supposed to, until i uninstalled it all, and it made the symlinks, but poined them at /dev/null
[22:36] <stochastix> got*
[22:37] <luis30> anyone know if the update that was supposed to be released today for this bug is going to happen? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1691146
[22:37] <luis30> it was suppsoed to be released today
[22:39] <leftyfb> luis30: I thought you were patient?
[22:39] <coffeeguy> https://askubuntu.com/questions/14328/where-can-i-look-up-my-update-history
[22:39] <leftyfb> luis30: you will not get the answer you're looking for here or anywhere else. You just need to wait
[22:40] <luis30> leftyfb, you have already given your input thanks
[22:40] <leftyfb> luis30: that is the input you are going to get
[22:40] <luis30> seth said it was going to be released i want to know what is going no
[22:40] <leftyfb> luis30: The ubuntu dev team will not post here when things will be released
[22:41] <luis30> this bug has been effecting 17.04 for months
[22:41] <leftyfb> yes, you stated that already
[22:41] <luis30> yes...
[22:41] <luis30> bye leftyfb
[22:41] <leftyfb> luis30: I already gave you your only 2 otions
[22:41] <leftyfb> please stop posting here about it
[22:41] <luis30> your on ignore
[22:42] <luis30> anyone know why this big fux has not been released today?
[22:42] <leftyfb> really?
[22:42] <coffeeguy> luis30 ask in the dev channel
[22:43] <luis30> leftyfb, i hae no desure to hae the same conversatio we just had two hours ago you might i dont ...thanks for the input i thought i would try to get other input
[22:43] <luis30> thanks coffeeguy
[22:43] <jnewt> how do i get mariadb / mysql started on ubuntu 16.04?
[22:45] <leftyfb> jnewt: sudo service mysql start
[22:45] <jnewt> no systemctl?
[22:46] <leftyfb> jnewt: if you know that is an option, why ask how?
[22:46] <stochastix> nacc:  Thanks for your help, I was able to see what should be, and what was happening
[22:48] <jnewt> because it doesn't work.  i get this and didnt' know if it was the right command: Job for mysql.service failed because the control process exited with error code. See "systemctl status mysql.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details.
[22:48] <leftyfb> jnewt: did you follow what it said?
[22:49] <nacc> stochastix: np!
[22:49] <jnewt> yeah, looking at the logs, things about determining permissions and tablespace must be writable and init function returned error and registration as a STORAGE ENGINE failed and several others
[22:51] <jnewt> seems to be permission errors, tried running with sudo, same things
[22:54] <stochastix> i  forgot my root pass,, a sudo passwd root took care of that lol
[22:55] <jnewt> http://pasted.co/5ff3db9b  thats the journalctl -xe output  after running with sudo
[22:58] <jnewt> i found something on google about needing to disable selinux.  is this necessary (link: http://www.itechlounge.net/2014/07/linux-mysql-innodb-operating-system-error-number-13-in-a-file-operation/)  not sure if it applies to my setup
[22:59] <leftyfb> jnewt: no
[22:59] <leftyfb> jnewt: what version of mysql-server are you running?
[23:00] <leftyfb> jnewt: apt-cache policy mysql-server
[23:06] <tyteen4a03> Hi, is there a Terms of Service I can view for Ubuntu Paste?
[23:08] <tyteen4a03> alternatively: We're building a service where diagnostics information will be sent to a pastebin service (right now we're instructing users to paste manually to Ubuntu Paste), I was wondering if automating paste creation is allowed)
[23:09] <leftyfb> tyteen4a03: you could use pastebinit
[23:10] <leftyfb> that posts to pastebin.ubuntu.com
[23:10] <tyteen4a03> leftyfb: this is for Windows so I'd probably need to reimplement the APIs; I was just wondering if this is allowed at all
[23:11] <leftyfb> not sure
[23:11] <leftyfb> tyteen4a03: you could probably contact the original maintainer of pastebinit: Rolf Leggewie <foss@rolf.leggewie.biz>
[23:11] <tyteen4a03> leftyfb: I was asking about if Ubuntu Paste allows automated paste uploads like this
[23:11] <tyteen4a03> the process is still user-triggered
[23:13] <leftyfb> tyteen4a03: yes, I understand. I'm saying, maybe contacting the maintainer of pastebinit which utilizes pastebin.ubuntu.com. They might be the best person to ask or they might be able to point you to the right person
[23:13] <tyteen4a03> will do, thanks
[23:23] <Meliorator> hi all, I need some help getting ubuntu to boot from a HDD install. I was having issue with BIOS telling me to "insert boot disk", so I ran Boot-Repair on an automatic recovery, but now it just boots to a blinking cursor, which is progress I guess! Any clues on how I can diagnose this please?
[23:24] <Sleaker> Meliorator: hard-drive failure?
[23:25] <Meliorator> I really doubt it, they are brand new
[23:25] <Fenix_Peregrino> guys I have a A8 AMD processor CPU + GPU. Is there a way to use also the cores of the GPU?
[23:25] <Meliorator> manuf date: 2017-02-16 :p
[23:25] <Fenix_Peregrino> Now I can only use the CPU cores...
[23:27] <Meliorator> I can boot to a live environment and read/write/etc no problem
[23:27] <Meliorator> I see no errors when I read over the boot and root partitions
[23:27] <Meliorator> (dd)
[23:28] <Meliorator> it's some grub weirdness
[23:28] <Meliorator> grubby gremlins lurking somewhere
[23:30] <Fenix_Peregrino> guys someone?
[23:30] <Fenix_Peregrino> can someone help me? I don't know how to make bot parts of the processor work
[23:32] <kenrin> Cores of the GPU for what?
[23:33] <Fenix_Peregrino> yes
[23:34] <Fenix_Peregrino> I have an AMD processor which has 4 CPU processors and 6 GPU processors. Now I'm using only the 4 CPU processors and I don't know how to use the 10 GPU processors that de processor has. I don't know how to make the Ubuntu recognize this processors
[23:35] <Aginor> Fenix_Peregrino: a GPU is not a general purpose compute unit, you cannot use it for arbitrary compute loads
[23:37] <Fenix_Peregrino> Aginor: I understand, so what is the use of this 6 additional gpu cores thawt are integrated on the same processor as are the CPU cores?
[23:37] <Aginor> Fenix_Peregrino: it's a graphics card
[23:37] <Aginor> GPU == graphics processing unit
[23:38] <kenrin> Well if the program can support IGE GPU workloads it'll take advantage of it
[23:39] <Aginor> kenrin is right, but it's not something you can use to run arbitrary programs on
[23:39] <kenrin> Right,  mainly for gaming,  and possibly autocad or designer programs with graphics processing
[23:40] <Fenix_Peregrino> Aginor: I know this, but I don't use this as a graphic card I use a dedicate graphic card for graphics. May be I don't understand or Im'm not making my self clear
[23:40] <Fenix_Peregrino> Aginir: this the type of processor I'm talkign about https://www.amd.com/en-us/products/processors/desktop/a-series-apu#
[23:41] <Fenix_Peregrino> its a processor which gas CPU + GPU in one single processor, not separetly. You can use a dedicated card as I do if you wan't to
[23:41] <Fenix_Peregrino> Aginor: the thing is I want to know how to use the processor at it's maxium capacity
[23:44] <kenrin> You can't turn htose GPU cores into CPU cores for tasks though
[23:45] <nZac> I am stuggling with a permission issue, anyone have an idea how to fix? It is an NFS mount... https://bpaste.net/show/eef561d0499d
[23:45] <Fenix_Peregrino> kenrin: perfect, so what are the use then?. How can I use them?
[23:46] <kenrin> They can "work together" on some programs to boost processing.  Very very limited,  Like BOINC and similar things
[23:48] <Fenix_Peregrino> kenrin: perfect, so are they usefull on another OS for example Windows?. Will they be use at their 100% on Windows for example?. I just wanna know, I've been investigating for quite a while... :(
[23:48] <Aginor> Fenix_Peregrino: no
[23:49] <kenrin> It looks like programs written in OpenCL can take advantage too
[23:49] <Fenix_Peregrino> Aginor: perfect
[23:49] <kenrin> But yeah for 99% of people those GPU cores would be useless with a dedicated GPU
[23:50] <Fenix_Peregrino> kenrin: perfect. How can I know if this processors are more powerfull than my GPU? Is this likely?
[23:51] <kenrin> Very unlikely unless you buy really cheap video cards
[23:51] <Aginor> Fenix_Peregrino: most modern CPUs come with GPU cores for onboard graphics nowadays. This is to allow vendors to ship cheaper computers without a dedicated graphics controller, which is common in office/server scenarios. They are low performing compared to a dedicated graphics controller as they must share the same set of resources as the CPU
[23:52] <Aginor> They are a useless feature if you rely on a dedicated graphics card and you're best off switching them off to save power (and heat)
[23:53] <Fenix_Peregrino> Aginor: oh perfect, thank you for the aclaration it's really useful. Well so what graphic card will you recommend? I have a radeon of 2 GB GGDR3
[23:54] <Aginor> Fenix_Peregrino: what is it you want to do?
[23:55] <Fenix_Peregrino> Aginor: being honest just play typical game such as Lol or Dota2 at 60 FPS.
[23:55] <kenrin> Your integrated could probably do that just fine
[23:56] <Fenix_Peregrino> kenrin: I have a dedicated card and I'm running at maxium Lol and I don't pass the 20 FPS :(
[23:56] <kenrin> Well that game is CPU intensive
[23:57] <Fenix_Peregrino> kenrin: do you think is the card or the CPU?
[23:57] <kenrin> No idea what cpu or card you have.  You just said A8 AMD,  but I do know those are pretty low end processors
[23:57] <kenrin> Like equivalent to core i3
[23:58] <Aginor> kenrin: they are very old
[23:59] <kenrin> If I had to take a general guess,  I'd say the RAM|CPU needs more than GPU for LoL
[23:59] <Aginor> or maybe not
[23:59] <Fenix_Peregrino> Aginor: yes I know :(. Well do you think a good graphic card will supply what my processor does not?