[05:00] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[05:00] <kostkon> gm
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> hey kostkon
[05:00] <kostkon> hey
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/06/improved-ubuntu-hidpi-support-in-gnome
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> big updates this morning
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic xenial
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> https://www.ubuntu.com/usn/USN-3304-1/
[06:35] <lordievader[m]> Good morning
[09:32] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[12:31] <pauljw> Hi everyone
[12:32] <BluesKaj> Hi pauljw
[12:33] <pauljw> hey BluesKaj :)
[13:25] <brunch> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/06/ubuntu-17-10-daily-builds-gnome
[14:04] <EriC^^> hi all
[14:08] <pauljw> hi EriC^^
[14:09] <EriC^^> hi pauljw :)
[14:09] <EriC^^> how are you?
[14:10] <pauljw> doing great, you?  :)
[14:10] <BluesKaj> hey EriC^^
[14:11] <EriC^^> pauljw: good thanks :)
[14:12] <EriC^^> hey BluesKaj :) how's it going?
[14:12] <BluesKaj> good thanks EriC^^ , and you?
[14:12] <EriC^^> BluesKaj: good thanks
[14:15] <BluesKaj> got a spot of bother at #ubuntu , this stevenguy is stuck on dpkg --configure = , but doesn't want to kill it
[14:15] <BluesKaj> dunno what he wants
[14:17] <BluesKaj> tire of "attitude types" who ask for suggestions then object to each one d
[14:19] <BluesKaj> beyond my scope anyway
[14:23] <lotuspsychje> good afternoon to all
[14:23] <BluesKaj> hey lotuspsychje
[14:24] <lotuspsychje> hey BluesKaj
[14:25] <EriC^^> hey lotuspsychje
[14:25] <EriC^^> what's up?
[14:25] <lotuspsychje> hey EriC^^
[14:25] <lotuspsychje> worked a bit in the garden today
[14:25] <lotuspsychje> and shopping
[14:25] <lotuspsychje> morning nacc
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/06/ubuntu-17-10-daily-builds-gnome
[14:29] <nacc> lotuspsychje: morning
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/06/ubuntu-decides-replace-lightdm-gdm
[15:31] <lotuspsychje> bbl guys
[15:55] <immu> BluesKaj, hey
[16:02] <BluesKaj> hi immu
[16:18] <akik> i fail to understand the reasons for changing from lightdm to gdm. gnome 3 works just fine with lightdm
[16:23] <immu> whatsup BluesKaj
[16:23] <immu> is their a technical discussion about switching to GDM at launchpad
[16:26] <akik> i just saw the url lotuspsyche pasted
[16:26] <akik> 17:29 < lotuspsychje> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/06/ubuntu-decides-replace-lightdm-gdm
[17:21] <immu> akik, true, but they must have had some documented discussion about it, that what i am interested in
[17:27] <immu> i got it i got it
[17:27] <akik> ah it's on lists.ubuntu.com
[17:27] <immu> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2017-June/004969.html jbca
[17:27] <akik> yes :)
[17:28] <akik> i press ctrl-alt-l in gnome and get a lock screen
[17:29] <akik> i'm not getting what he means with "and using GNOME Shell as a LightDM Greeter"
[17:29] <akik> i'm using the stock lightdm from kubuntu 14.04
[17:35] <oerheks> BluesKaj, he has an odd lightdm situation, i could not make sense out of it too..
[17:35] <oerheks> maybe not running ubuntu at all..
[17:36] <BluesKaj> he's on ubuntu the DE command showed that , but I think he had a screwup on his nvidia update/install
[17:37] <BluesKaj> and he blames lightdm which isn't the real problem IMO , but I'll let those who think they know better sort it out
 BluesKaj, should I first try to reinstall ubntu-desktop using ....
[17:38] <oerheks> here it comes ...
[17:38] <oerheks> sudo apt-get install --reinstall gnome-session ubuntu-desktop
[17:38] <oerheks> gnome-session?
[17:39] <BluesKaj> now they have him reinstalling systemd
[17:42] <akik> immu: there's more discussion at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2017-April/thread.html
[17:44] <brunch> oof crazy
[17:44] <brunch> whenever I stumble upon these wild problems, I just grab a new image and format
[17:45] <oerheks> it used to be no problem, 2 desktops on same kernel install
[17:45] <oerheks> nowadays i seperate installs, too much unwanted situations indeed
[17:46] <oerheks> maybe the switch to pure snap packages will fix this
[17:46] <akik> why do they mix desktop settings/configurations? they = ubuntu devs
[17:47] <oerheks> it is not that easy to blame, wish it was :-(
[17:48] <oerheks> but then again, it is nice to have something to work out
[17:48] <immu> akik, thanks
[17:48] <akik> kde plasma 4 and gnome 3 seem to play nice
[17:52] <BluesKaj> i stick with kde/plasma. no other DEs needed...begining to think i should stay away from the #ubuntu chat...dunno enough about the changes and their consequences with the other DEs
[17:55] <akik> immu: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2017-April/004886.html the lightdm founder writes about negative sides in gdm: "- no significant tests (make check runs one thing from 2007)"
[17:55] <akik> that can't be true
[18:05] <immu> well what ever the case maybe they are switiching to GDM
[18:11] <BluesKaj> say that in #ubuntu and see how many corrections you get
[18:13] <BluesKaj> oerheks, from what i can see they still haven't found a solution to the lightdm issue ...now they have him reinstalling the OS
[18:19] <oerheks> BluesKaj, did anyone ask what the other OS is, dualboot ?
[18:20] <BluesKaj> windows I think
[18:26] <immu> so GDM is it folks :) bravo :)
[18:30] <BluesKaj> ahh know it alls, they're so sure of themselves until their ideas beginb to fail then they blame the helpee
[18:31] <nicomachus> what's the lightdm issue?
[18:31]  * nicomachus hasn't noticed anything...
[18:32] <BluesKaj> lightdm doesn't load, the user has to start it in the vt/tty
[18:32] <nicomachus> oh. no problems here...
[18:32] <nicomachus> but I have some sort of bastardization of lightdm/gdm going on here.
[18:32] <BluesKaj> this is old news, now they have hi reinstalling the OS
[18:32] <nicomachus> ever since I installed gnome.
[18:33] <BluesKaj> yup, that appears to be the case with this one too
[18:34] <nicomachus> like, I get the gdm/gnome animation on boot, but then log in through lightdm. but if I lock the screen, it gives me the gdm lock screen
[18:34] <nicomachus> I should probably just remove lightdm.... but I'm lazy
[18:38] <BluesKaj> heh
[18:41] <immu> i am wating for offical release of 17.10 to upgrade , wont like to mess with  my system right now
[19:06] <nicomachus> https://www.sudosatirical.com/articles/police-standoff-outside-house-of-man-not-in-sudoers-file/