=== JanC is now known as Guest15321 === JanC_ is now known as JanC === EriC^ is now known as EriC^^ [05:00] good morning to all [05:00] gm [05:00] hey kostkon [05:00] hey [05:01] http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/06/improved-ubuntu-hidpi-support-in-gnome [05:04] big updates this morning [05:04] !info linux-image-generic xenial [05:04] linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.4.0.79.85 (xenial), package size 2 kB, installed size 13 kB [05:05] https://www.ubuntu.com/usn/USN-3304-1/ [06:35] Good morning [09:32] 'Morning folks === pisi is now known as Guest25563 [12:31] Hi everyone [12:32] Hi pauljw [12:33] hey BluesKaj :) [13:25] http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/06/ubuntu-17-10-daily-builds-gnome [14:04] hi all [14:08] hi EriC^^ [14:09] hi pauljw :) [14:09] how are you? [14:10] doing great, you? :) [14:10] hey EriC^^ [14:11] pauljw: good thanks :) [14:12] hey BluesKaj :) how's it going? [14:12] good thanks EriC^^ , and you? [14:12] BluesKaj: good thanks [14:15] got a spot of bother at #ubuntu , this stevenguy is stuck on dpkg --configure = , but doesn't want to kill it [14:15] dunno what he wants [14:17] tire of "attitude types" who ask for suggestions then object to each one d [14:19] beyond my scope anyway [14:23] good afternoon to all [14:23] hey lotuspsychje [14:24] hey BluesKaj [14:25] hey lotuspsychje [14:25] what's up? [14:25] hey EriC^^ [14:25] worked a bit in the garden today [14:25] and shopping [14:25] morning nacc [14:27] http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/06/ubuntu-17-10-daily-builds-gnome [14:29] lotuspsychje: morning [14:29] http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/06/ubuntu-decides-replace-lightdm-gdm [15:31] bbl guys [15:55] BluesKaj, hey [16:02] hi immu [16:18] i fail to understand the reasons for changing from lightdm to gdm. gnome 3 works just fine with lightdm [16:23] whatsup BluesKaj [16:23] is their a technical discussion about switching to GDM at launchpad [16:26] i just saw the url lotuspsyche pasted [16:26] 17:29 < lotuspsychje> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/06/ubuntu-decides-replace-lightdm-gdm === JanC_ is now known as JanC [17:21] akik, true, but they must have had some documented discussion about it, that what i am interested in [17:27] i got it i got it [17:27] ah it's on lists.ubuntu.com [17:27] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2017-June/004969.html jbca [17:27] yes :) [17:28] i press ctrl-alt-l in gnome and get a lock screen [17:29] i'm not getting what he means with "and using GNOME Shell as a LightDM Greeter" [17:29] i'm using the stock lightdm from kubuntu 14.04 [17:35] BluesKaj, he has an odd lightdm situation, i could not make sense out of it too.. [17:35] maybe not running ubuntu at all.. [17:36] he's on ubuntu the DE command showed that , but I think he had a screwup on his nvidia update/install [17:37] and he blames lightdm which isn't the real problem IMO , but I'll let those who think they know better sort it out [17:38] BluesKaj, should I first try to reinstall ubntu-desktop using .... [17:38] here it comes ... [17:38] sudo apt-get install --reinstall gnome-session ubuntu-desktop [17:38] gnome-session? [17:39] now they have him reinstalling systemd [17:42] immu: there's more discussion at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2017-April/thread.html [17:44] oof crazy [17:44] whenever I stumble upon these wild problems, I just grab a new image and format [17:45] it used to be no problem, 2 desktops on same kernel install [17:45] nowadays i seperate installs, too much unwanted situations indeed [17:46] maybe the switch to pure snap packages will fix this [17:46] why do they mix desktop settings/configurations? they = ubuntu devs [17:47] it is not that easy to blame, wish it was :-( [17:48] but then again, it is nice to have something to work out [17:48] akik, thanks [17:48] kde plasma 4 and gnome 3 seem to play nice [17:52] i stick with kde/plasma. no other DEs needed...begining to think i should stay away from the #ubuntu chat...dunno enough about the changes and their consequences with the other DEs [17:55] immu: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2017-April/004886.html the lightdm founder writes about negative sides in gdm: "- no significant tests (make check runs one thing from 2007)" [17:55] that can't be true [18:05] well what ever the case maybe they are switiching to GDM [18:11] say that in #ubuntu and see how many corrections you get [18:13] oerheks, from what i can see they still haven't found a solution to the lightdm issue ...now they have him reinstalling the OS [18:19] BluesKaj, did anyone ask what the other OS is, dualboot ? [18:20] windows I think [18:26] so GDM is it folks :) bravo :) [18:30] ahh know it alls, they're so sure of themselves until their ideas beginb to fail then they blame the helpee [18:31] what's the lightdm issue? [18:31] * nicomachus hasn't noticed anything... [18:32] lightdm doesn't load, the user has to start it in the vt/tty [18:32] oh. no problems here... [18:32] but I have some sort of bastardization of lightdm/gdm going on here. [18:32] this is old news, now they have hi reinstalling the OS [18:32] ever since I installed gnome. [18:33] yup, that appears to be the case with this one too [18:34] like, I get the gdm/gnome animation on boot, but then log in through lightdm. but if I lock the screen, it gives me the gdm lock screen [18:34] I should probably just remove lightdm.... but I'm lazy [18:38] heh [18:41] i am wating for offical release of 17.10 to upgrade , wont like to mess with my system right now === Guest25563 is now known as pisi === pisi is now known as Guest3422 [19:06] https://www.sudosatirical.com/articles/police-standoff-outside-house-of-man-not-in-sudoers-file/ === fr0tzed_ is now known as fr0tzed === fr0tzed_ is now known as fr0tzed === fr0tzed_ is now known as fr0tzed