[00:10] <Grandolf> Meliorator "You can now reboot your computer.
[00:10] <Grandolf> Please do not forget to make your BIOS boot on sda (4001GB) disk!" did you try rebooting?
[00:29] <war__> How can I disable openvpn to run on boot?
[00:30] <war__> already tried /default/openvpn AUTOENABLE='none' but that didn't work
[00:31] <Seven_Six_Two> I'm using Mint, but I was wondering if geolocation works for people in the repo version of Firefox? You can try here, please.   https://www.w3schools.com/html/tryit.asp?filename=tryhtml5_geolocation
[00:32] <Seven_Six_Two> there was an Ubuntu bug in many versions of FF, and I'm wondering now if it's a new bug of the same type, or inherited.
[00:32] <Seven_Six_Two> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=919153
[00:51] <Ben64> Seven_Six_Two: 4 year old bug isn't really relevant anymore
[00:51] <Seven_Six_Two> I suppose not. But I'm affected by it.
[00:52] <Seven_Six_Two> Or its doppelganger.
[01:09] <CoreJohnson> What the simplest way to setup a basic webpage to download files but with a user name/password  using ubnutu/appache
[01:09] <CoreJohnson> What's
[01:10] <genii> CoreJohnson: Use .htpasswd
[01:11] <CoreJohnson> genii .htpasswd   ok   thx.  is it hard to configure.  Do you know a quality tutorial ?
[01:12] <CoreJohnson> I'll look
[01:12] <genii> CoreJohnson: Not offhand, but it's manpage is pretty good. I'm leaving sson or I'd find you one
[01:13] <CoreJohnson> genii:  ok  thanks all the same.   So with .htaccess I could just display a directory listing in the browser and have a user/name and password you think ?
[01:13] <genii> CoreJohnson: But yeah, thats the simplest way. Just put the files in a directory with an .htpasswd entry that makes then have to log in before seeing what the directory contains
[01:15] <CoreJohnson> genii:   cool  thx.  ok.   Would I create system user for each person.  Or is there something more apache only level ?
[01:36] <Seven_Six_Two> you create it with the htpasswd command
[01:37] <Seven_Six_Two> what's returned is put in to the .htpasswd file referenced by .htaccess https://www.web2generators.com/apache-tools/htpasswd-generator
[01:38] <lord-ragnarock> Howdy! :) I'm trying to follow this guide ( https://www.howtoforge.com/linux_dialin_server ), and I can easily say I haven't worked with this kind of stuff before. My current question is: I have this USB-to-phoneline adapter attached to my future server, how do I find out which COM port is which?
[01:39] <lord-ragnarock> *More like: How do I find out which COM port is the USB modem? :P
[01:42] <Seven_Six_Two> lord-ragnarock, com ports are listed in /dev as /dev/ttyS0 where the 0 increments. Try dmesg | grep tty
[01:42] <Seven_Six_Two> after pluggin in device, to see if there is output stating whether a tty device has been added
[01:51] <CoreJohnson> lord-ragnarock:  dial-in     Going old school.   Probably more wifi hotspots almost now adays/    Setting up a bbs ?
[01:51] <lord-ragnarock> CoreJohnson, Setting up a middleman for my Powerbook 160 to connect to the rest of the network :)
[01:51] <CoreJohnson> more wifi hotspots then phone lines*
[01:52] <CoreJohnson> a middleman ?
[01:53] <lord-ragnarock> In a nutshell, I can't seem to get this Localtalk-Ethernet adapter to work in any way, so I'm going old-school and making my own dialup/PPP/whatever server to connect to :)
[01:53] <lord-ragnarock> I haven't touched dialup since I was 6 and playing on Mac System 7, so safe to say, I have little clue what I'm doing :P
[02:00] <craigbass76> I've got a very bare bones install on a chrome book. I can't mount a thumb drive. Is there a package I can get that will allow mounting vfat? I get "unknown filesystem type" when I try it.
[02:04] <craigbass76> Oh, scratch that. Now I'm getting "wrong fs type, bad superblock..." so maybe I hosed the drive somehow.
[02:05] <kk4ewt> you sure it vfat and not ntfs ?
[02:06] <craigbass76> kk4ewt: no, it's vfat. It's the sd card from my dslr, and it always mounts up vfat on my regular laptop.
[02:06] <craigbass76> But this is some chrubuntu-ish ruckus. I guess I've got networking and sshfs running, I shouldn't complain.
[02:07] <craigbass76> This thing is really just so I can do little things in a pinch from the couch or bed. Kind of a weight gain program. :)
[02:10] <docmur> Hey guys, I just updatead to 17.04 Desktop and now when I connect my Samsung Android phone, it's not showing up as a mountable device
[02:21] <docmur> Bad Cable :P
[02:28] <craigbass76> docmur: humbling, isn't it when you finally figure it out? I do tech support and it took me a good 5-7 minutes to figure out in Windows 10 how to make a scanner do its thing. Customer thought it was a riot and didn't feel so dumb afterward
[02:31] <docmur> Not at all, it doesn't lower how I think of myself, it was just a bad cable, which is funny being the cable worked a couple days ago, in either case, awesome it was simple.
[02:53] <choki> which programs send notifications?
[02:53] <choki> i need to test something
[03:05] <kireji> /etc/cron.daily/00cronwatch runs every day, and runs "sbin/hwclock" which defaults to the --show option, resulting in an email with the current date and a time offset that appears to be mostly random, usually about 1 second.  why is this run, it seems to do nothing, and I don't want the email any more.  obviously someone put it here, so before it gets deleted, where is an explanation?
[03:06] <kireji> every day there's a new email, with a line that has the cron script, and a line that has some thing like "Sat 03 Jun 2017 09:25:01 AM PDT  .389644 seconds"
[03:06] <kireji> cat /etc/cron.daily/00cronwatch shows this crryptic line: "# update date jobs for cron" which means???
[03:08] <NateJackDev> hello
[03:15] <choki> oh hey NateJackDev
[03:18] <kostkon> choki, notify-send "this is a test"
[03:48] <CoderEurope> https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/2017/06/july-12th-internet-planning-day-action-save-net-neutrality-just-like-sopa-blackout-internet-slowdown/
[04:29] <manpearpig> hey guys can anyone help me with my vsftpd issue?
[04:29] <manpearpig> i can download and delete my files just fine, but cant upload or edit the file
[04:29] <manpearpig> i chmodded the file to 777 and chowned it to my username and group
[04:29] <manpearpig> any ideas?
[04:30] <blkadder> Do you mean you changed permission on the upload directory?
[04:31] <manpearpig> yeah
[04:33] <manpearpig> i did a recursive chown and chmod
[04:33] <blkadder> So what does editing the file have to do with ftp?
[04:33] <manpearpig> it wont let me do it
[04:33] <blkadder> How are you attempting to edit it?
[04:33] <manpearpig> filezilla
[04:33] <manpearpig> Command:	CWD /laravel/app/Http/Controllers
[04:33] <manpearpig> Response: 	550 Failed to change directory.
[04:33] <manpearpig> im not sure why im getting failed to change directory errors
[04:34] <manpearpig> i could download and delete files just fine using filezilla
[04:34] <EriC^> manpearpig: do you have permissions to +x on the dir or before it?
[04:34] <manpearpig> when i try to upload any file back to the server it wont gives me the error
[04:34] <manpearpig> one sec eric
[04:34] <manpearpig> drwxrwxr-x+  6 evo www-data   4096 Jun  7 04:27 app
[04:34] <blkadder> manpearpig Filezilla is an ftp client not an editor.
[04:35] <manpearpig> i meant after EDITING a file i try to upload it using filezilla
[04:35] <manpearpig> it gives me that error
[04:35] <manpearpig> Error:        	File transfer failed
[04:35] <EriC^> manpearpig: what about Http/Controllers
[04:35] <manpearpig> Response: 	550 Failed to change directory.
[04:35] <blkadder> So you need to look at path permissions.
[04:35] <manpearpig> drwxrwxr-x+ 3 evo www-data 4096 Jun  7 03:34 Controllers
[04:36] <manpearpig> what permission am i missing
[04:36] <EriC^^> manpearpig: and Http?
[04:36] <manpearpig> drwxrwxr-x+ 4 evo www-data 4096 Mar 24 23:21 Http
[04:36] <blkadder> You are logging in as who?
[04:36] <manpearpig> evo
[04:36] <EriC^^> what about /laravel ?
[04:36] <manpearpig> drwxrwsr-x+ 13 evo  www-data 4096 Apr 11 00:16 laravel
[04:37] <Ben64> /laravel ?
[04:37] <manpearpig> ^
[04:37] <manpearpig> i followed a tutorial on digitalocean
[04:37] <Ben64> ls -ld /laravel
[04:37] <manpearpig> drwxrwsr-x+ 13 evo www-data 4096 Apr 11 00:16 laravel <--
[04:37] <manpearpig> returned that
[04:37] <Ben64> no it didn't
[04:38] <manpearpig> root@ip-172-31-3-242:/var/www# ls -ld laravel
[04:38] <manpearpig> drwxrwsr-x+ 13 evo www-data 4096 Apr 11 00:16 laravel
[04:38] <Ben64> ls -ld /laravel
[04:38] <manpearpig> i cant do /laravel
[04:38] <blkadder> What is the root directory set to in vfstpd.conf?
[04:38] <manpearpig> doesnt exist
[04:38] <Ben64> right
[04:38] <manpearpig> hm?
 Command: CWD /laravel/app/Http/Controllers
[04:39] <manpearpig> ah
[04:39] <manpearpig> i see what you're saying
[04:39] <Ben64> also, stop using ftp
[04:39] <manpearpig> hm?
[04:39] <Ben64> switch to sftp
[04:40] <manpearpig> blkadder: i dont think its vsftpd.conf
[04:40] <manpearpig> whys that ben64?
[04:40] <blkadder> Encryption.
[04:40] <Ben64> because ftp is ancient, not secure, and crap
[04:40] <manpearpig> ah should i just uninstall vsftpd?
[04:40] <manpearpig> i dont mind uninstalling it, its been a mess.
[04:40] <manpearpig> its driving me insane
[04:41] <Ben64> if you have ssh working, then you have sftp already working
[04:41] <manpearpig> yeah i do
[04:41] <Ben64> uses same permissions and users
[04:41] <Ben64> easy peasy
[04:41] <manpearpig> does filezilla support sftp?
[04:41] <Ben64> i think so
[04:41] <blkadder> Yes
[04:42] <blkadder> I had to go look as I haven't used it in years.
[04:43] <manpearpig> let me give it a shot
[04:43] <manpearpig> lol
[04:43] <manpearpig> thanks again guys
[04:43] <manpearpig> im so flustered right now
[04:44] <blkadder> Depending on your needs you can just use scp or sftp.
[04:44] <blkadder> As Ben64 says it is a whole lot easier if you already have ssh working. :-)
[04:45] <choki> steven: hi
[04:49] <manpearpig> i got it to work
[04:49] <manpearpig> thank you guys
[04:49] <manpearpig> im so grateful lol
[04:49] <manpearpig> i was going bald
[04:49] <manpearpig> feels faster too
[04:51] <virmaha> Hello. If I do curl mywebsite.com:5000/ , it works but if I do curl localhost:5000/, i get 404. Any idea why? I've an entry for mywebsite.com in /etc/hosts file
[04:51] <Ben64> does mywebsite.com resolve to 127.0.0.1
[04:51] <manpearpig> ah man so beautiful
[04:51] <virmaha> yeah Ben64
[04:51] <Ben64> then its a vhost thing
[04:52] <manpearpig> thanks ben64 for the advice
[04:52] <manpearpig> i really aprpecaite it
[04:52] <manpearpig> *appreciate
[04:52] <Ben64> manpearpig: no prob
[04:54] <virmaha> Ben64: it's very weird. If I add mywebsite.com, it works fine. If I add testwebsite.com, it fails:S
[04:55] <blkadder> virmaha Add it where?
[04:55] <virmaha> blkadder: in /etc/hosts file
[04:55] <blkadder> You need to tell your webserver to answer for the host name too.
[04:55] <blkadder> What are you using?
[04:57] <virmaha> https://pastebin.com/PwUZTdLR this is kinda how my hosts file is
[04:57] <virmaha> i am using flask blkadder
[05:02] <blkadder> virmaha So I don't know that this will fix your problem but the host names should be on a single line for the same IP.
[05:02] <blkadder> 127.0.0.1 localhost myname myebsite.com etc.
[05:02] <blkadder> err mywebsite.com
[05:07] <virmaha> blkadder: sorry got disconnected
[05:08] <virmaha> this is so frustrating. Only if I do curl smartmirror.com , curl works. If I do localhost:5000/ it doesn't. If change host file to have entry for smartmirrors.com, even then curl smartmirrors.com:5000/ doesn't work
[05:10] <kenrin> put your hosts on a single ip line
[05:11] <kenrin> It will resolve the first one it hits
[05:11] <virmaha> do i've to flush dns-cache or anything like that?
[05:12] <kenrin> 127.0.0.1 localhost smartmirror.com mywebsite.com foo.com
[05:12] <virmaha> kenrin: 127.0.0.1	localhost smartmirror.com is what I've in hosts file. curl localhost:5000/ returns 404 but curl smartmirror.com:5000/ works fine
[05:13] <kenrin> then you need to fix your vhosts to listen on that address
[05:13] <kenrin> *:5000 should do it
[05:14] <kenrin> for all addresses
[05:15] <virmaha> okay cool, thanks!
[05:58] <RenegadeZed> anyone available? black screen when booting up, quick fix is to delete quiet splash from the line of code from grub
[05:59] <RenegadeZed> i'm looking for a permanent solution
[06:00] <Bashing-om> RenegadeZed: What is the graphic's card ?
[06:00] <RenegadeZed> radeon xpress 200m
[06:01] <RenegadeZed> on a laptop, toshiba satellite m70
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> !amd | RenegadeZed
[06:02] <Bashing-om> RenegadeZed: What shows ' lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use' ' ?
[06:02] <vadi> How can I get the Dash to stop turning scopes off? It is very annoying.
[06:05] <RenegadeZed> Bashing-om: Kernel driver in use: radeon
[06:05] <hateball> RenegadeZed: well you can permanently remove quiet splash, if you like
[06:05] <RenegadeZed> is the quiet splash usefull for anything?
[06:06] <hateball> Showing a splash instead of the boot process
[06:06] <hateball> So... depends on your idea of "useful". In my world: No
[06:06] <RenegadeZed> well if it crashes on the quiet splash doesn't it mean that there might be a problem with the drivers? or something else
[06:07] <hateball> some drivers have problems with kms which is needed to display a fancy plymouth splash
[06:07] <RenegadeZed> yeah it just makes the boot sequence a bit more pretty, but it's not really something that i care about
[06:07] <hateball> but they work just fine once in X or Wayland
[06:08] <hateball> RenegadeZed: you can edit /etc/default/grub, remove quiet splash from GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=""
[06:08] <RenegadeZed> do you have a link to remove the quiet splash permanently?
[06:08] <hateball> RenegadeZed: then run sudo update-grub
[06:08] <hateball> RenegadeZed: that way, it is removed on all kernel upgrades etc
[06:08] <RenegadeZed> hateball: i'm not advanced enough with lubuntu to do that on my own, i wish tho lol
[06:09] <Bashing-om> RenegadeZed: I personally would rather see the boot messages than a splash screen . One can remove 'quiet splash' from the /etc/default/grub config file .
[06:09] <hateball> RenegadeZed: It's quite easy, "sudo nano /etc/default/grub"
[06:10] <hateball> RenegadeZed: then do changes as needed, ctrl+x to save and quit
[06:11] <RenegadeZed> done, easy enough lol
[06:11] <RenegadeZed> thanks hateball
[06:12] <hateball> RenegadeZed: and dont forget to run "sudo update-grub" to generate new grub.conf
[06:13] <RenegadeZed> oh right
[06:18] <RenegadeZed> firefox is slow af on lubuntu, damn
[06:18] <RenegadeZed> cant even play a video on youtube lol
[06:20] <hateball> That is more likely due to your hardware than Firefox
[06:21] <RenegadeZed> hmm, probably, but i used to play counter strike source on this laptop.. so it ain't too bad
[06:21] <RenegadeZed> should be able to play a simple video on youtube
[06:39] <JoeBk> strange, time.gov appears to be giving time that is more than a minute off.
[07:18] <squig> when your installing ubuntu can you get to the shell, (trying to figure out an automated install issue)
[07:25] <SkylakeMX> hey :)
[08:01] <alkisg> Up to 14.04, there was a "fuse" group, which in 16.04 doesn't exist. Where could I find some documentation on why it was removed and how things are working with fuse now?
[08:06] <ANub> hello, can someone suggest how to make nautilus windows solid in 16.04
[08:09] <ANub> at the moment (default) they look like https://postimg.org/image/ma10mf8pn/
[08:10] <ANub> we can not see the right or the bottom windows border
[08:10] <_28Kb> use it on dark background
[08:10] <_28Kb> !nautilus
[08:12] <_28Kb> nautilus confuses me lately... earlier there was app nautilus that looks like files but enables me sudo access to everything browsed
[08:12] <_28Kb> now that died somehow
[08:13] <akik> alkisg: i'm on 14.04 but not in the fuse group. fuse is anyhow working with no issues for me
[08:13] <alkisg> akik: in https://wiki.debian.org/SystemGroups it says it's no longer required after Jessie, but I haven't yet found the reason why/how...
[08:14] <alkisg> akik: thank you though!
[08:14] <akik> alkisg: at least a ntfs partition mounts as "fuseblk"
[08:19] <vlt> Hello. What is the offial way to do downgrade Thunderbird to the previous working version?
[08:22] <akik> alkisg: /dev/fuse has permissions 666 on 14.04
[08:23] <alkisg> akik: owned by root:root, or by root:fuse?
[08:23] <akik> alkisg: root:root
[08:23] <alkisg> akik: ah, it used to be root:fuse, so sounds like 14.04 didn't need the fuse group either
[08:24] <alkisg> And that they just forgot to remove it
[08:25] <akik> although on 16.04 it's root:root and 666
[08:25] <akik> so, the same permissions
[08:26] <ANub> .
[08:48] <Meliorator> hi all, i need some help booting grub from a hdd on an older intel motherboard. BIOS just tells me to
[08:48] <Meliorator> "insert boot disk". i fiddled with BIOS config, set the sata controller to legacy and ensured the hdd's were set to boot. i've successfully run Boot-Repair, but it still won't boot, please help!
[08:49] <alkisg> Meliorator: can you boot from a usb stick? how much ram does that pc have?
[08:50] <Meliorator> alkisg: i can boot usb/cd/dvd no problem. 6GB
[08:50] <alkisg> Meliorator: so, after you boot with the usb, a quick test would be: sudo apt install qemu-kvm; sudo kvm -m 1024 /dev/sda
[08:50] <alkisg> Meliorator: this will boot your hdd in a virtual machine, check if it's bootable or not
[08:51] <alkisg> So you'll know if the problem is in the disk or in your bios etc settings
[08:51] <Meliorator> hmm ok, i shall try...
[08:54] <EriC^^> Meliorator: are you in the live usb right now?
[08:54] <Meliorator> almost
[08:55] <Meliorator> slowest boot ever...
[08:57] <Meliorator> ugh, have to update apt etc
[08:58] <Meliorator> ok, so system is running
[08:59] <Meliorator> it won't let me run kvm, "could not access KVM kernel module"
[08:59] <alkisg> Ah you need to enable virtualization in the bios to run kvm
[09:00] <alkisg> https://askubuntu.com/questions/256792/how-do-i-enable-hardware-virtualization-technology-vt-x-for-use-in-virtualbox
[09:01] <Meliorator> meh, back to BIOS *sigh*
[09:01] <necrophcodr> Hi everyone
[09:01] <necrophcodr> I have a USB problem
[09:02] <necrophcodr> I've used it for a long time now, but when I inserted it today (and it worked earlier today) it no longer shows up
[09:02] <necrophcodr> It also doesn't show up in gparted
[09:02] <necrophcodr> What do I do? It contains important data
[09:04] <vlt> necrophcodr: For the important data: use your backup.  If you want to try to continue using that USB drive, have a look at the output of dmesg after plugging it in.
[09:05] <necrophcodr> vlt, I'll do just that. I don't have a backup unfortunately, that's what I was about to do.
[09:06] <vlt> necrophcodr: If the device appears at all (as /dev/sdb or similar) take an image of what is still readable using ddrescue.
[09:06] <necrophcodr> it doesn't appear in /dev/sdb
[09:06] <necrophcodr> i get the following from dmesg
[09:06] <gummipunkt> necrophcodr: can you try it in another device?
[09:07] <necrophcodr> https://pastebin.com/fNNfNa54
[09:07] <necrophcodr> i have tried on another device, same USB port type, and the same results
[09:07] <gummipunkt> sounds like an hardware problem
[09:08] <vlt> necrophcodr: "it doesn't appear in /dev/sdb" != "    sd 3:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk
[09:08] <necrophcodr> vlt, what do you mean?
[09:08] <vlt> necrophcodr:  Why did you say "it doesn't appear in /dev/sdb"?
[09:09] <necrophcodr> it said sdb, so i just wanted to confirm that there's no device /dev/sdb
[09:09] <vlt> necrophcodr: Your dmesg output says otherwise. Hmmm ...
[09:10] <necrophcodr> i know
[09:10] <necrophcodr> output of ` ls /dev | grep sd | grep -v sda` is nothing though
[09:10] <akik> necrophcodr: how about "sudo fdisk -l"
[09:10] <alkisg> necrophcodr: run `udevadm monitor`, then plug the stick. It will provide more detail than dmesg.
[09:11] <akik> necrophcodr: there's an app called photorec that can rescue data off file systems but you'd need to be able to access the file system first
[09:12] <necrophcodr> alkisg, https://pastebin.com/mSChHER2
[09:12] <necrophcodr> akik, i know, and if i get access to it again, i'll be using that as well
[09:12] <necrophcodr> and dd-like tools
[09:14] <alkisg> necrophcodr: and is /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-4/1-4:1.0/host4/target4:0:0/4:0:0:0/block/sdb present in your system?
[09:14] <alkisg> cd "/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-4/1-4:1.0/host4/target4:0:0/4:0:0:0/block/sdb"
[09:14] <alkisg> ls, etc etc
[09:14] <Meliorator> alkisg: the o/s is installed to a raid0 array, i tried running the kvm with /dev/sda and /dev/md0, the former failed to start, the latter get to "no bootable device"
[09:15] <alkisg> Meliorator: raid with 1 disk only?
[09:15] <Meliorator> 2 drives
[09:15] <alkisg> Meliorator: can you access their contents from the live cd? what's the output of `sudo parted -l` ?
[09:16] <necrophcodr> sudo file /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-4/1-4:1.0/host4/target4:0:0/4:0:0:0/block/sdb
[09:16] <necrophcodr> -> /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-4/1-4:1.0/host4/target4:0:0/4:0:0:0/block/sdb: directory
[09:17] <necrophcodr> ah, didn't see the other commands until now
[09:17] <necrophcodr> but yes, i can see output from that directory, alkisg
[09:17] <Meliorator> alkisg, i can mount /dev/md0 and see the contents
[09:17] <alkisg> necrophcodr: for example there's a "size" file there. The command to see it would be "cat size". Does it show the correct size for that stick?
[09:18] <Meliorator> just setting up ssh, to make copying paste's over easier...
[09:18] <alkisg> Meliorator: sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[09:19] <necrophcodr> alkisg, no, it simply outputs '0'
[09:19] <alkisg> necrophcodr: sounds like the stick died then
[09:20] <necrophcodr> alkisg, alright, i'm guessing there's not much more to do then?
[09:20] <alkisg> Yup. I'd try it on another pc/os just to make sure, and then I'd throw it away
[09:20] <Meliorator> alkisg: https://pastebin.com/raw/KG7Ja3hW
[09:23] <alkisg> Meliorator: are you booted in uefi or in bios mode currently? ls /sys/firmware/efi
[09:24] <Meliorator> bios, the motherboard is old, it doesn't support uefi
[09:25] <alkisg> Meliorator: and when you ran kvm /dev/sda, it started but hanged? Or it didn't start at all?
[09:26] <Meliorator> failure reading sector 0xb30 from 'fd0'
[09:26] <alkisg> Did you see the grub menu?
[09:26] <Meliorator> disk 'mduuid/...' not found.
[09:27] <Meliorator> i am at a grub rescue prompt
[09:27] <Meliorator> no menu came up
[09:28] <akik> necrophcodr: there are data recovery companies but usually they are quite expensive
[09:28] <alkisg> But when you try to boot the pc normally, you don't get to grub rescue at all, right? You only get "no os"...
[09:28] <Meliorator> yes
[09:28] <necrophcodr> akik, i don't think it's going to be worth it, especially since the data is vital now
[09:31] <necrophcodr> alkisg, i tried it on a different PC, and doing the "cd /sys/devices/..." stuff, based on the output of `udevadm monitor`, yields only the directory doesn't exist
[09:31] <necrophcodr> so i'm guessing it's dead yea
[09:31] <alkisg> necrophcodr: ok; yeah throw it away then :/
[09:32] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[09:33] <vlt> Moin
[09:38] <Meliorator> alkisg: anything else i can look at?
[09:39] <alkisg> Meliorator:  (12:28:22 μμ) alkisg: But when you try to boot the pc normally, you don't get to grub rescue at all, right? You only get "no os"...
[09:39] <Meliorator> yes
[09:40] <Meliorator> alkisg ^^
[09:40] <alkisg> OK, that then means that there's something wrong with your bios settings and not with the installation
[09:40] <alkisg> So, stop trying to run boot-repair etc for now, and enter the bios and play with the settings until you at least get a grub prompt
[09:41] <Meliorator> i went through everything relevant in BIOS, i have no more BIOS options to fiddle with!
[09:41] <alkisg> Meliorator: what happens if you try sudo kvm -m 1024 /dev/sdb? Do you get a grub prompt from the second disk as well?
[09:42] <Meliorator> yes
[09:42] <alkisg> OK. So even the order of the disks wouldn't matter. I believe it's just a bios setting involved (e.g. raid setting)
[09:43] <Meliorator> it's set to legacy atm, the only other options are ahci and raid
[09:43] <alkisg> And if you set it to raid you still don't get grub?
[09:43] <dziq> hi.
[09:44] <Meliorator> i believe i tried that, but i shall go through all options again and come back
[09:44] <dziq> I just installed ubuntu 16.04 LTS on my laptop. I've noticed that when I close the lid, system sleeps quite long.
[09:45] <dziq> could someone know, how to speed up this process
[09:54] <_KaszpiR_> don't close the lid \o/
[09:54] <dziq> :)
[09:54] <_KaszpiR_> you want to make it go to sleep/wake up faster?
[09:54] <dziq> wake up is fast
[09:55] <dziq> but sleep is slow....
[09:55] <_KaszpiR_> afair it's related to amout of ram you have and disk speeds
[09:55] <dziq> it was faster on fedora or arch linux
[09:55] <dziq> _KaszpiR_: it's not
[09:55] <dziq> I don't want to hibernate on ram
[09:55] <_KaszpiR_> ah
[09:56] <dziq> just suspend/sleep
[10:00] <mistawright> hi guys i need some help with nginx. I have phpmyadmin as a symlinked folder in /var/www/html/database and I keep getting 403 errors when attmepting to access
[10:00] <mistawright> can someone help
[10:07] <afox> what permissions do you have on your directory?
[10:07] <afox> folders should be 755 and files below 644 i believe
[10:09] <afox> also in your ngnix config you should have http { disable_symlinks off; }
[10:21] <mistawright> afox, https://gist.github.com/samundra/01f4cc8086680d0640465eee1fe6d817#file-phpmyadmin-conf-L73-L94
[10:22] <mistawright> how would i be able to use this guy but set it to use databse instead of phpmyadmin as the subdomain
[10:25] <afox> i haven't used ngnix in a while, but i would think after setting the folder permissions and the disable_symlinks flag you would only need to create the actual symlink (ln -s ...) and then put that as the path in your config
[10:29] <MrXXIV> So. One of my clients asked me "What's the private key for your PC, the .ppk file".
[10:29] <afox> fire that client
[10:29] <MrXXIV> I wanna curse these guys out, but I need to finish washing the dishes and make my breakfast first
[10:30] <MrXXIV> They assumed I code on Windows. lmaooo
[10:31] <afox> i work with a java developer who exclusively uses windows. it's hard for me to understand.
[10:31] <afox> also his laptop has about 8000 icons on it. which is just nasty.
[10:32] <MrXXIV> I can't stand it.
[10:32] <MrXXIV> I can never win with anyone who primarily uses Windows for work, because most of them can't organize themselves for shit
[10:35] <Meliorator> alkisg: still around?
[10:38] <YankDownUnder> MrXXIV, In most instances, "end users" that claim to "know how to use a computer" - especially those that are ingrained on the MS OS's, can barely organise a single application...just by looking at the lack of ergonomics of the "file manager", it's a frustrating endeavour...(from dealing with MS end-users for many years)
[10:39] <MrXXIV> Like these idiots hired a developer/project manager who practically borrowed a Software Development Workflow draft sheet from Wikipedia. The audacity to think these idiots can manage me when they have no idea what an RSA key is. I told them. "I use keys, not passwords". The first thing that comes to their minds are PPK's???
[10:40] <MrXXIV> sorry, let me chill on the rant
[10:40] <MrXXIV> it's morning
[10:40] <MrXXIV> I woke up to the PPK message
[10:40] <MrXXIV> I'm here thinking that's some repo key or whatever to some other system
[10:41] <YankDownUnder> MrXXIV, Drink coffee. Inhale the smell of hot coffee, exhale negatives.
[10:41] <MrXXIV> Regularly I drink tea...oh no, I ran out. Welp.
[10:42] <\9> it's gonna be that kind of a day then :D
[10:42] <YankDownUnder> MrXXIV, Same diff. OR, go outside and smell the flowers.
[10:42] <afox> bourbon is a good substitue. especially first thing in the morning.
[10:42] <MrXXIV> I'm surrounded by the woods, I smell nature 24/7 if my windows are open
[10:43] <YankDownUnder> As an alcoholic, I'd not suggest alcohol...hmm...but, to each their own.
[10:43] <MrXXIV> I don't drink either, unless it means I'm getting death by snoo snoo
[10:43] <YankDownUnder> Flowers, trees, birds, the SUN...
[10:43] <MrXXIV> Deer normally cross my area
[10:43] <MrXXIV> I also see Cardinals daily
[10:43] <YankDownUnder> BTW, the world hasn't ended on Wednesday the 7th - "news from the future" here in Australia.
[10:44] <YankDownUnder> MrXXIV, I had a salt-block for the deer when I was "back home". They'd eat from my hand, too.
[10:44] <afox> can verify. currently visiting ukraine. world is still standing
[10:44] <YankDownUnder> Envious. I want to visit Ukraine. Heaps of history and food.
[10:45] <afox> it's beautiful here. i want to move here. kyiv is an amazing city.
[10:46] <MrXXIV> I live in Durham, North Carolina. Where I live is quite peaceful to be honest. It's more peaceful in the race car though
[10:47] <afox> im from AZ, phoenix area. its far too hot.
[10:47] <YankDownUnder> Been there. In Durham. Tis a nice spot. A few "backwards" folks, but that's everywhere. Easy for me to travel there when I lived in Kentucky. Lovely drives.
[10:48] <afox> what brought you to Australia?
[10:49] <YankDownUnder> Hot? Hmm...it's like 16c here...I'm freezing.
[10:49] <YankDownUnder> afox, Redhead. Simple.
[10:49] <afox> understood.
[10:49] <MrXXIV> I was in Los Angeles last summer. Traffic is horrible. Luckily I rented a car. Though I got hit and ran by an asian woman. Then got a replacement. Thanks Sixt.
[10:50] <MrXXIV> When you mean backwards, do you mean the people who like "Furries" or simply have terrible hair styles because yea
[10:50] <Dave114>  any fixes for hdmi audio on a nuc running ubuntu 16?  Followed the troubleshooting instructions at http://www.intel.co.za/content/www/za/en/support/boards-and-kits/000005499.html but when installing the recommended package reports a problem with the kernel version (I'm running 4.8, it wants 4.4)
[10:51] <YankDownUnder> MrXXIV, Best way to explain some of the "locals" - very ingrained "mighty whitey" and "old family" and "small town mentality".
[10:51] <MrXXIV> Oh..wypeeple, you mean the country people
[10:51] <hateball> So much !ot
[10:52] <MrXXIV> Yea, my parents live in the country area. Gun shots and fishing.
[10:52] <YankDownUnder> Dave114, Have you experimented with changing audio "engines"?
[10:52] <MrXXIV> Dating sites involve girls wearing nothing but camo in these areas
[10:52] <Dave114> YankDownUnder, I tried swapping alsa with pulse yesterday
[10:52] <YankDownUnder> Dave114, ...yeppers...and?
[10:53] <Dave114> YankDownUnder, no luck
[10:53] <YankDownUnder> Dave114, Hang on a tick...let me give you this tidbit: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[10:54] <mistawright> hi guys i am trying to change my phpmyadmin from being accessed through the url phpmyadmin what changes do i need to make here to accomplish this?
[10:54] <mistawright> https://gist.github.com/samundra/01f4cc8086680d0640465eee1fe6d817#file-phpmyadmin-conf-L73-L94 this is the config i am using
[10:54] <YankDownUnder> mistawright, Um...have you asked in #phpmyadmin yet?
[10:57] <Dave114> YankDownUnder, that's a better guide than i found yesterday.  May give swapping audio engines another try.  (Back to being a home linux user yesterday after 6-8 years of OS X on the desktop and so far this isn't going as well as I'd hoped)
[10:58] <Dave114> any ways to stop google chrome from reported it closed unexpectedly when shutting down the machine and have it shut down more gracefully?  (I've been restarting just using the "shutdown" option in the top right - using the gnome flavour of ubuntu at the moment)
[10:59] <mistawright> YankDownUnder, no one as answering there
[11:00] <YankDownUnder> Dave114, "Been there done that" with an Acer Vivo U42...however, it got resolved in the end...
[11:01] <Dave114> YankDownUnder, I'm hoping so.  Was expecting better from the NUC hardware support as Intel officially supports Linux for it
[11:02] <YankDownUnder> Dave114, Keyword that is unspoken -> "supposedly"...best to actually CHECK the chipset (using whatever you wish - "sudo lspci" usually works quite well)...OH, and something I found out, too...bluetooth can cause issues with the audio...and oddly enough, the mouse/keyboard...just so's ya know...hmm...
[11:03] <hateball> Dave114: have you made sure you actually switched the default audio device as well?
[11:03] <hateball> Dave114: so it tries outputting over hdmi at all
[11:04] <Dave114> hateball, I've been playing around with the audio tester in system settings.  Audio works on a USB headset but not through the speakers (which are connected as HDMI audio)
[11:05] <Dave114> hateball, monitor briefly reported something about not supported the pcm audio rate or something like that so was playing around with changing default from 44100 to 48000 in /etc/pulse/daemon.conf earlier
[11:05] <YankDownUnder> Dave114, And you've tried a different HDMI cable just to be sure, yersh?
[11:06] <Dave114> YankDownUnder, don't have a different HDMI cable (and this one has worked with HDMI audio before)
[11:07] <marvin2> is it possible to disable Alt key from opening "Type your command" dialog?
[11:07] <YankDownUnder> Dave114, Aliens. Must be aliens. ;)
[11:08] <Dave114> YankDownUnder, btw when I say has worked before this NUC is replacing a system that died so the hardware is different as well not just the OS
[11:08] <YankDownUnder> Dave114, Right oh, fair enough, fair enough.
[11:09] <senaps> hi, is there a way to find out if someone has changed their root? guess if a hacker gained access to a system, could they find out if they are on the real root or the root that i have set?
[11:11] <BluesKaj> Dave114, I assume the hdmi cable is connected to device that decodes the digital audio signal, and that's where the speakers are located, right?
[11:12] <Ilyas> has anyone ever seen a "pnet" adapter in Ubuntu ?
[11:12] <Ilyas> what's it for?
[11:12] <Ilyas> I only know its'some kind of NIC
[11:13] <BluesKaj> Dave114, like a TV
[11:13] <Dave114> BluesKaj, speakers are built into monitor which is what the hdmi cable is connected to.  (Unfortunately not a fancy sound system)
[11:14] <YankDownUnder> Dave114, ...like an iMac...(grins)
[11:14] <Dave114> hmm ... why does curl not trust a letsencrypt CA these days?  (Google Chrome on the same system does)
[11:15] <BluesKaj> Dave114, and your monitor is a TV ? if so I think we had this discussion before.,
[11:15] <Dave114> BluesKaj, monitor is a Dell U3417W
[11:15] <YankDownUnder> Dave114, Oooo...just thought of something - have you checked the audio settings on the tellie?
[11:16] <YankDownUnder> (tellie - monitor - same diff)
[11:16] <BluesKaj> YankDownUnder, exactly
[11:16] <YankDownUnder> ...and it's *only* a Dell...
[11:17] <BluesKaj> the hdmi audio input could be muted
[11:17] <Dave114> YankDownUnder, audio isn't muted.  Not sure if there are other settings you might mean
[11:18] <YankDownUnder> Dave114, Had an issue with a mate's "Dell from Hell" (joke) - we had to reset the monitor to it's defaults in the end...not sure why, but. However, it worked.
[11:19] <BluesKaj> Dave114, the audio settings on the dell monitor, make sure they're setup..sometimes they're muted by default depending on the brand
[11:21] <vlt> Hello. On Ubuntu 16.04 there was a Thunderbird update to 52.1.1 recently. Now my users complain about very slow performance when loading attachments and partially corrupted attachment files (that remain valid after forwarding an email).   Any idea how to fix that?
[11:22] <Dave114> BluesKaj, volume was on.  Found an "audio reset" in the monitor settings which I just tried running.  Didn't work when I reran tests (and reinitialized the pulseaudio stuff)
[11:23] <BluesKaj> make sure pulseaudio is passing the audio signal to the hdmi audio out
[11:24] <YankDownUnder> vlt, You've asked in #thunderbird?
[11:24] <Dave114> BluesKaj, how so?  Been testing specifically by selecting a device in sound in system settings and then running a test.  Works as before with the headset but not with hdmi audio output selected
[11:24] <YankDownUnder> Dave114, Since you've found a "reset", why not go through all the steps on the link I gave ya?
[11:25] <YankDownUnder> Dave114, BTW, in some instances, complete "cold boots" (shutting down the machine completely) helps with re-establising HDMI connections...especially on "NUC"'s and the likes...hmm...
[11:26] <Dave114> YankDownUnder, I've been reading through that page - currently looking through the output of the alsa-info script it mentioned.  will probably try a hard shutdown.
[11:26] <BluesKaj> Dave114, headset not using the same audio path as the hdmi signal, it's most likely an analog output to the headphones, hdmi is a digital signal to your monitor
[11:26] <YankDownUnder> Dave114, "hard/cold" shutdown is heaps nicer than "a 32 oz. hammer on the top of the machine"...
[11:26] <senaps> hi, is there a way to find out if someone has changed their root? guess if a hacker gained access to a system, could they find out if they are on the real root or the root that i have set?
[11:27] <YankDownUnder> senaps, Simple. Read the logs. All the logs.
[11:27] <YankDownUnder> Meanwhile, night night y'all!
[11:27] <EriC^^> senaps: are you trying to set up a honeypot?
[11:28] <necrophcodr> Hi again, i'm back for some more data recovery.
[11:29] <senaps> EriC^^: yup, i have a honey pot, i want to fake ssh and stuff like that. i wanted to see if it is possible to make a virtual root directory, and make it surfable for the hacker
[11:29] <Dave114> BluesKaj, headset is USB - not sure where the conversion to analog there happens.  Anyways my alsa-conf output is at https://pastebin.com/80wXLMLV
[11:29] <senaps> but i was wondering if it is possible and could be done! :)
[11:29] <necrophcodr> We have a MDADM-made RAID10 system. None of the drives are in fact problematic, but given that it's a RAID10, it should be possible to recover data using only half the disks. Is there any way to determine which disks I can use?
[11:29] <necrophcodr> Say if I have 4 disks, and I want to only use 2 of them, or I have 6 and I want to use 3.
[11:30] <senaps> YankDownUnder:  logs of what? tell me and i will read them! i have red rfc's..... lot's of them! :) i could read a few hundred pages of logs to! :)
[11:30] <Dave114> anyways, going to drop out of IRC to cold boot the machine now
[11:36] <vlt> YankDownUnder: Yes, thank you!
[11:36] <vlt> necrophcodr: cat /proc/mdstat
[11:37] <necrophcodr> vlt, how do i make any use of that?
[11:38] <necrophcodr> This is also a recovery done on a machine that has no previous knowledge of the RAID array.
[11:39] <vlt> necrophcodr: You can try `mdadm -A /dev/md0 /dev/sd[a-f]1` for example.
[11:39] <vlt> necrophcodr: The layout should be stored in the mdraid header.
[11:40] <vlt> necrophcodr: There's also `mdadm --examine <member>`
[11:40] <frostschutz> necrophcodr, mdadm --detail /dev/mdX or mdadm --examine /dev/sd* to get info about the raid level, layout, and which drive is fulfilling which role in the raid, and then go from there
[11:40] <frostschutz> necrophcodr, put the output in a pastebin if you want us to help interpret the output
[11:42] <Dave114> well, no luck with HDMI audio after the cold boot.  still not working
[11:43] <Dave114> headset audio is still working though.  Noticed that volume control seems weird though.  dropped below maybe 75% volume control mutes the headset
[11:47] <BluesKaj> Dave114, can you paste a screenshot of your alsamixer settings at imagebin or imgur ?
[11:48] <Dave114> BluesKaj, what's the quickest way to screenshot a window in ubuntu these days?
[11:48] <\9> alt + print screen? not sure if that works in unity
[11:49] <BluesKaj> da with the prnscrn key right beside F12 on most KBs
[11:49] <BluesKaj> Dave114,^
[11:50] <Dave114> BluesKaj, http://imgur.com/a/cHVQ8 (running gnome not unity btw)
[11:50] <BluesKaj> not using unity here, so your screenshot ctls might be different
[11:51] <BluesKaj> kde/plasma 5 here
[11:51] <\9> prtscn should work in all desktop environments
[11:52] <\9> at least in mate and i think kde, alt + prtscn screenshots the current window
[11:52] <Dave114> BluesKaj, http://imgur.com/a/cHVQ8 is what I see.  Not sure if I'm running the correct thing or not
[11:53] <hateball> Dave114: are you sending video over hdmi as well?
[11:53] <Dave114> hateball, yup - also sending video
[11:53] <hateball> Dave114: I am asking because I had an issue where audio channel would not activate unless video was also activated
[11:54] <BluesKaj> Dave114, enable your loopback with the up arrow key , then check you pavucontrol audio out settings
[11:55] <Ilyas> I have this line in my network config "iface pnet0 inet dhcp"
[11:55] <Ilyas> how do I find out more about this pnet0 device?
[11:56] <hateball> Ilyas: sounds like a virtual interface
[11:56] <ioria> Dave114, on the Intel Nuc page it's said that you need the  oem-audio-hda-daily-dkms pkg from a ppa  ... http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/boards-and-kits/000005499.html -> Troubleshooting
[11:57] <Dave114> BluesKaj, what does the loopback do (other than alone apparently not resolving my problems).
[11:57] <Dave114> ioria, that's the link that I initially posted here I think.  I tried to install that packge, but it won't build the module as I'm running a 4.8 kernel and it's got BUILD_EXCLUSIVE set to 4.4
[11:57] <BluesKaj> Dave114, do you have pavucontrol installed?
[11:58] <ioria> Dave114, oh, ok you might want to test zesty then
[11:58] <Dave114> BluesKaj, yup - not sure what I'm looking for in there?  (other than that the hdmi audio section shows a port listed as "(plugged in)" as before
[11:59] <Dave114> ioria, force an install of the zesty package on 16.04?  (I have trouble keeping track of hwich animal == which version sometimes).  Or see if I can rebuild the source package on 16.04?
[12:00] <ioria> Dave114,  can't you try zesty from a live version ?
[12:00] <Ilyas> hateball: ah yes, it is
[12:00] <Ilyas> hateball: do you know of any way to trace who put it there?
[12:00] <Ilyas> or rather, which package?
[12:01] <Dave114> ioria, hmm... there is no zesty package there.  Honestly I think that I might be more likely to switch distributions than switch to a non-LTS ubuntu
[12:02] <BluesKaj> Dave114, is there a volume ctl on the pacucontrol hdmi audio section , if so make sure it's turned up to at least 80% or so
[12:02] <BluesKaj> pavucontrol rather
[12:03] <hateball> Ilyas: I am guessing vmware workstation/player or maybe virtualbox?
[12:04] <hateball> Ilyas: googling for pnet0 suggests it is used with http://www.eve-ng.net/ maybe thats what you have used?
[12:05] <Ilyas> I did, I'm trying to figure out how it's relating to other network parts
[12:05] <Ilyas> but documentation seems sparse
[12:05] <Dave114> BluesKaj, I've got volume on the pavucontrol set to 100% right now.  Interestingly if I try to play the notification through the system settings sound testing I see activity on the bar indicating output levels there for the hdmi audio (but don't hear anything)
[12:05] <Ilyas> I cna't determine if this is a EVE-NG thing, a Ubuntu thing, or a vmware thing, or something else
[12:08] <BluesKaj> Dave114, that's what makes me think your monitor audio input section isn't setup correctly, if not then I'm out of ideas.
[12:08] <Dave114> note that I tried the suggestion at https://01.org/linuxgraphics/forum/graphics-installer-discussions/why-cant-i-get-sound-through-hdmi-intel-nuc-ubuntu-16.04-nor yesterday - is there perhaps a second place the sample rate is set?
[12:10] <Dave114> noticed that if I run alsamixer in a terminal window I can't seem to get any response when pressing F6 ... does ubuntu these days still have non-GUI virtual consoles and if so how do I access them?
[12:11] <Dave114> note that I'm running with a Mac keyboard, which has control, alt/option, and command keys - not sure if they map differently but ctrl-alt-F# isn't getting me to a virtual console
[12:12] <Lord_Vile> Hello. I recently installed Ubuntu 16.04 on my computer, alongside Windows 10, however my computer doesn't seem to be offering me the option of booting from Ubuntu. Any ideas?
[12:15] <BluesKaj> Dave114, get a supported KB for 30 bucks
[12:16] <clarkk> when I connect a 128GB SDCard with an exFAT filesystem, it is not automatically mounted. The filesystem is shown by fdisk -l, as roughly the correct size, under /dev/sdh1, but the Device /dev/sdh only shows as 1.9Mib.  If I ls -la /dev/ | grep sdh, only sdh is listed (no sdh1). Does anyone know what's happening here?
[12:16] <EriC^^> clarkk: why do you care for /dev/sdh anyways?
[12:17] <clarkk> EriC^^: I'm sorry - I don't understand your question
[12:17] <Sjors> Hi all!
[12:18] <EriC^^> clarkk: try "dmesg | grep sdh"
[12:18] <EriC^^> hey Sjors
[12:18] <clarkk> ok, to summarise, I am unable to mount sdh1, because there is no /dev/sdh1 device, even though fdisk lists it
[12:18] <ioria> clarkk, exfat-fuse and exfat-utils are installed ?
[12:18] <clarkk> ioria: yes
[12:18] <Dave114> BluesKaj, do I need to reboot to install a new keyboard?  Swiped the one that I was using for a raspberry pi but it's not working
[12:19] <Sjors> I have a problem with our Ubuntu 16.04 installations. Some nights, they seem to lose their IP address, and fail to communicate. Always at night, between 1 A.M. and 5 A.M. I have a tcpdump that shows their lease time is fine... I see in the logs that Avahi and NTP are giving up on the IP address for the interface, but can't find out why
[12:19] <Sjors> does somebody have some debugging tips? Logs I may not have checked?
[12:20] <Sjors> Avahi says "withdrawing address record for 192.168.0.166 on eth0", NTP says "Deleting interface #3 eth0, 192.168.0.166#123", but no indication whatsoever in `journalctl` about why the IP address is gone
[12:20] <clarkk> btw, I'm using Ubuntu 16.04.2
[12:20] <Sjors> dhclient got a lease for 2 hours, about 10 minutes before this happens, and has been running fine for days
[12:20] <hateball> Dave114: no need to reboot for that, you may need to pick a proper keymap tho
[12:20] <Sjors> nothing in dmesg about the link going down or anything
[12:21] <hateball> Dave114: and I dont know where in Unity/Gnome one would do that but... should be somewhere in settings I suppose
[12:21] <Dave114> BluesKaj, never mind - batteries were dead in the pi keyboard
[12:22] <Sjors> hold on a second, I think I got something from `journalctl -u NetworkManager`: at 01:21:06 it says it updated the lease time to 7200, then at 03:21:07 the IP address is removed --- even though it got DHCPACKs in the meantime!
[12:22] <Sjors> so NetworkManager is probably the daemon removing the IP address, even though it doesn't have to!
[12:23] <ioria> clarkk, maybe a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1644981
[12:28] <Sjors> what's the correct IRC channel for asking NetworkManager questions?
[12:30] <BluesKaj> Sjors, running ubuntu or a flavour thereof ? if so you can ask here
[12:34] <clarkk> thank you, ioria. Do you think this is the type of issue that, when the bug is fixed, it will just start working without any user intervention (apart from applying updates regularly)?
[12:35] <Sjors> BluesKaj: yeah, ubuntu 16.04
[12:36] <Sjors> it's more a bug report than a question, really, I just want to confirm it with someone before I report it
[12:36] <ioria> clarkk, i hope so...  you can make an udev rule to mount it automatically anyway
[12:36] <clarkk> ioria: but there is nothing to mount
[12:36] <Sjors> I'm seeing some miscommunication between NetworkManager and the dhclient that it runs, causing NetworkManager to drop an IP address even though dhclient succesfully renewed it
[12:36] <clarkk> ioria: there is no sdh1
[12:37] <BluesKaj> Sjors,  ethernet or wifi
[12:37] <ioria> clarkk,  check (or paste) dmesg | tail    (after re plugging)  ans sudo parted -l
[12:38] <anchnk> hi, I am trying to install the intel graphics drivers for linux using the intel-graphics-update-tool binary
[12:39] <anchnk> but I do have a TLS handshake error when it tries to fetch the config file
[12:39] <anchnk> Failed to download config file 'https://download.01.org/gfx/ilg-config.cfg'
[12:39] <Sjors> BluesKaj: ethernet
[12:39] <akik> anchnk: the intel gfx drivers are included in the kernel. use them
[12:40] <anchnk> akik how can I do that ? recompiling the kernel ?
[12:40] <akik> anchnk: they are actually *included* in the kernel. you don't have to do anything
[12:41] <anchnk> I am getting this warning possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/i915/kbl_dmc_ver1_01.bin for module i915 when an new kernel is installed and that the update-initrafms script is run
[12:41] <akik> anchnk: i915 module
[12:41] <anchnk> oh btw lsmod | grep i195 gives me some output so it seems already loaded then
[12:41] <akik> anchnk: that's a warning, not an error
[12:41] <anchnk> i915*
[12:43] <BluesKaj> Sjors, you could disable NM and use the interfaces and resolv.conf files to support your connection, like so https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[12:45] <Sjors> BluesKaj: yeah, but first I'll try to see if I can fix it upstream
[12:45] <Sjors> BluesKaj: I'd rather invest in a good solution than a workaround
[12:46] <BluesKaj> it's not a workaround, i've been using static ip for yrs , there's no need for the NM gui on an ethernet connection..wifi perhaps, but not ethernet
[12:48] <Sjors> I know it works, but I'd rather keep using networkmanager
[12:48] <BluesKaj> fine, then debug NM I guess
[12:49] <Sjors> I'm gathering some information for a bug report, I hope they'll look into it
[12:49] <clarkk> ioria: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/c342e3d45caf2f06025f79ed7c589bfe
[12:49] <Sjors> if they don't I can switch to use the interfaces file, but I'll have to update 30 office machines then
[12:49] <Sjors> it's possible, but not my preferred solution
[12:50] <clarkk> ioria: this is probably clearer
[12:50] <clarkk> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/bb46a249b2cb44c92b20a8eb9e96fcc7
[12:50] <ioria> clarkk,  looks fine to mr
[12:50] <ioria> *me
[12:51] <clarkk> ioria: but why isn't there a /dev/sdh1?
[12:52] <ioria> clarkk,  /dev/sdh1 * 32768 250085375 250052608 119.2G 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
[12:52] <clarkk> but it's not listed in the fs under /dev/, unlike all the other disks
[12:53] <BluesKaj> Sjors, ok understood
[12:53] <ioria> clarkk,  ok, can you manually  mount  /dev/sdh1  on a mountpoint ?
[12:56] <boichev> if I sign a file with gpg --sign file.txt can I revert the normal non binary (non ascii armor) state of the file without the public key ?
[12:59] <nfahldieck> I'm trying to preseed a 16.04 LTS workstation install. I'm wondering what "tasksel tasksel/first standard" includes? Is it enough to just "tasksel tasksel/first ubuntu-gnome-desktop"? I can't seem to find any documentation on tasksel other than the installation-guide.
[12:59] <Sjors> BluesKaj: thanks though :-)
[13:00] <clarkk> ioria: no, there is no /dev/sdh1 under /dev do to do that
[13:02] <BluesKaj> well it's an option, just create a textfile with the static IP parameters and pass them along to the other pcs and save the originals in case upgrades changes things, altho i've never had that happen, Sjors
[13:02] <Dave114> awkward ... this looks like it might be an answer to my HDMI audio problems - https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/26609/NUCs-HDMI-2-0-Firmware-Update-Tool-for-Intel-NUC-Kit-NUC7i3BN-NUC7i5BN-NUC7i7BN-NUC6CAY - but unfortunately the HDMI firmware updater is windows 10 only
[13:03] <BluesKaj> Dave114,` that's unfortunate, thought intel nucs were well supported in linux
[13:04] <Sjors> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1696415
[13:06] <hateball> Dave114: could always try shooting intel support an email, maybe they have a linux tool to flash that firmware
[13:07] <BluesKaj> Dave114, I'm wondering if barebones alsa driver might work without pulseaudio ...I have intel audio and there's no need for pulse unless you want to stream several audio sources simultaneously, but if you use the latest firefox browser then it needs pulse. However, chrome does not need it..
[13:08] <hateball> Dave114: it's also possible to create a WinPE10 bootable USB in Linux, it's just... not very nice
[13:11] <Dave114> hateball, hmm... http://www.webupd8.org/2013/07/how-to-create-bootable-windows-pe-iso.html seems to provide instructions for a windows pe 10 install free (legally?) from within linux.  else only windows 10 install I have is a surface 3 tablet
[13:12] <hateball> Dave114: yep
[13:12] <BluesKaj> that's a heluva workaround
[13:13] <hateball> Dave114: the WinPE10 stuff is free and legal to use. Note that it might not run that firmware flasher regardless, but... if you have no other options
[13:15] <vlt> Hello. What happened to the Ubuntu policy to keep a package on the same version throughout the lifetime of the release and to only apply (backport) security related patches?
[13:15] <cristian_c> hello
[13:16] <cristian_c> I've a ite 9135 dvb chip (with remote control), it uses dvb-afatech9035 driver, and i've typed sudo ir-keytable
[13:16] <vlt> Last week our Thunderbird suddenly jumped from 45.8.0 to 52.1.1 (according to apt/history.log)
[13:16] <cristian_c> ir-keytable and evtest perform successfully keypresses on the remote control. Unfortunately, enabled protocol field is empty and if I try to configure shortcuts in kaffeine, many keys don't work
[13:17] <akik> hateball: thanks for the pe link. doesn't look hard at all
[13:17] <cristian_c> I've tried to modprobe some nec modules, because the remote control support the nec orotocol, but I don't know how to solve the issue
[13:17] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[13:22] <clarkk> ioria: do you have any more ideas, please?
[13:23] <hateball> akik: :)
[13:26] <v4169sgr> Hi all, I have 32 bit 16.04.02 on a Crucial SSD, with / and /home as separate partitions. I am experiencing significant issues with iowait under load since install. I have implemented a number of fixes including setting swappiness to 0 and using the deadline scheduler, and the noatime and discard flags in fstab. High iowait under load still persists. Any pointers on ways to start diagnosing / fixing the issue?
[13:27] <v4169sgr> Sorry, that's Ubuntu Xenial 16.04 release 2
[13:30] <donofrio_> v4169sgr, lurk around a few hours someone will be around with a mindful reply
[13:30] <v4169sgr> Thanks donofrio :)
[13:45] <wam> For a research: Since which year prevents the shell going down the path when calling rm -rf .* (i.e. skipping "..") ?
[13:45] <tcpdump> Hey everyone - I just installed php-fpm on my ubuntu 16.04 server using apt-get.  When I do which php-fpm I dont see that its linked.
[13:46] <tcpdump> Also, I dont see that its registered as a service in systemctl.  Any idea how to determine where it's installed?
[13:46] <cfhowlett> wam ask #linux
[13:46] <wam> cfhowlett: they'd argue that it's the shell, not the kernel ;)
[13:46] <\9> so ask #bash
[13:47] <cfhowlett> wam sounds like something you can google, yes?
[13:47] <wam> cfhowlett: trying for half an hour now. No idea what to look for.
[13:47] <tcpdump> wam:    rm -rf .*   why not  rm -rf *
[13:47] <tcpdump> You just looking for files with extensions?
[13:48] <wam> tcpdump: I'm not interested in correcting the call. I want to know since what year the shell does not go down the path anymore. I know it did 10 yrs ago.
[13:48] <cristian_c> ok, then another question:
[13:48] <\9> wam: perhaps it's rm skipping ..?
[13:49] <tcpdump> wam: I have no idea what you're talking about.   If you do rm -rf .* then it will (to this day) delete everything with a . in the name recursively.
[13:49] <wam> tcpdump: nope. Not ..
[13:49] <tcpdump> Just did it...
[13:49] <wam> tcpdump: interesting.
[13:49] <wam> tcpdump: plain ubuntu?
[13:49] <\9> wam: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24800696/
[13:50] <cristian_c> I'm searching for a way to use a new resolution for employing in a basic projector
[13:50] <tcpdump> 16.04 LTS server.
[13:50] <wam> ok, I'll google for the rm command, it might be this. Thanks
[13:50] <wam> tcpdump: see \9's paste - that's how it is here.
[13:50] <\9> wam: perhaps you could consult coreutils' version history
[13:50] <wam> Maybe you have another rm in that case.
[13:50] <cristian_c> I've followed the sequence using cvt, xrandr newmode and xrandr addmode
[13:51] <wam> \9 yes, as soon as I know which program it is ;)
[13:51] <tcpdump> Anyone have any thoughts on my php-fpm question?
[13:51] <\9> wam: this is coreutils 8.25 for the record
[13:53] <Ichimusai> Dont worry. New systemd is reimplementing rm which will traverse parent directory path upon rm -rf .* which is usually not what most of us wants.
[13:53] <\9> hooray
[13:53] <cristian_c> but when I use xrandr output with the new resolution, I get: xrandr: configure crtc 0 failed
[13:54] <\9> like we needed rm reimplemented..
[13:54] <akik> Ichimusai: you are not serious, are you?
[13:54] <aotaointbin> wait, what?
[13:54] <Ichimusai> akik: I am
[13:54] <steven> what'd be the best way to debug a stuck dpkg --configure =
[13:55] <cristian_c> and if I read Xorg.0.log, I find:  (EE) intel(0): failed to set mode: Invalid argument [22]
[13:56] <cristian_c> How could I debug this failure?
[13:56] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[13:56] <akik> Ichimusai: what's the command name for it?
[13:58] <Ichimusai> akik: I don't have it off hand but there was a rather grandiose discussion in one of the lists, made me bail out, regarding the misunderstanding of how POSIX relates to . and .. etc. I pretty much gave up at that point before Lennart declared su and sudo to be broken concepts and the intention to rewrite them from scratch too.
[13:59] <akik> Ichimusai: yea i don't think he understood what su does
[14:00] <BluesKaj> steven, open another terminal tab, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[14:01] <steven> and that is debugging it how?
[14:01] <steven> I am root BluesKaj, its not a permission issue. it is just stuck. "setting up .."
[14:02] <steven> there is no -v flag either
[14:03] <marvin3> what program do you recommend for checking x,y coordinates and width/height of some rectangle in the image? I was thinking gimp, but I can't see a way to do it there and #gimp is a bit dead at the moment
[14:03] <BluesKaj> steven, sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a, used towork in the old days , but methinks it's more risky now
[14:03] <Random832> at what point are people going to either stop using systemd, or fork it and make Lennart not the maintainer anymore
[14:04] <marvin3> (or alternatively, (startx, starty) (endx, endy) positions)
[14:04] <cfhowlett> marvin3, inskcape give pretty precise X, Y location
[14:04] <Random832> it seems like there are constantly stories of his bad attitude
[14:05] <steven> that'd just kill the process of the lock BluesKaj
[14:06] <steven> but killing it is not the issue. I can run dpkg --configure -a but it just freezes while setting it up
[14:06] <marvin3> cfhowlett I can do that in gimp as well, but it would be convenient if I could draw a rectangle, and then have x,y,width,height or startx,starty,endx,endy displayed in the status bar or similar
[14:06] <steven> there has got to be some verbose output on this, I dont wanna strace it..
[14:06] <BluesKaj> yup, it's a dirty workaround, but ....
[14:09] <wam> \9 akik aotaointbin Ichimusai Yes, actually that was / is a bug in systemd: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/5644
[14:09] <\9> heh this
[14:09] <\9> why does systemd have to reimplement rm?
[14:10] <\9> it works just fine without systemd messing with it
[14:11] <aotaointbin> lol @ poettering
[14:11] <aotaointbin> ah man, what a tool :P
[14:12] <cfhowlett> aotaointbin, let's keep the personal commentary out of this channel please.  thank you.
[14:12] <aotaointbin> fair enough.
[14:13] <OnkarP> Hello guys, while installing snmpd I get this error when trying to start it : /usr/sbin/snmpd: symbol lookup error: /usr/sbin/snmpd: undefined symbol: smux_listen_sd
[14:13] <OnkarP> what can I do in this case to get snmpd to work, many thanks in advance for your support
[14:14] <aotaointbin> i didn't know there even was a systemd rm, though. why doesn't systemd just use coreutils rm?
[14:15] <aotaointbin> or is this just another step along the path to eliminate the dependency on gnu?
[14:15] <v4169sgr> Seeing a lot of errors in my syslog like
[14:15] <v4169sgr> Jun  7 15:00:44 aammscott org.gnome.zeitgeist.SimpleIndexer[4006]: ** (zeitgeist-fts:5848): WARNING **: Failed to search index: Db block overwritten - are there multiple writers?                                 │
[14:15] <v4169sgr> Jun  7 15:00:44 aammscott com.canonical.Unity.Scope.LocalFiles[4006]: (unity-files-daemon:5825): unity-files-daemon-WARNING **: daemon.vala:491: Error performing global search 's': GDBus.Error:org.gtk.GDBus.Unma│
[14:16] <v4169sgr> wonder if I should try stopping whatever it does that unity does for global file search
[14:17] <cfhowlett> considering that unity will no longer be offered in the default ubuntu, I'd suggest early gnome adoption
[14:18] <v4169sgr> :) I should be alright till 2021 - so not worrying
[14:19] <v4169sgr> just get annoyed at resource sucking frippery!
[14:21] <v4169sgr> mmmm, clear usage data under System Settings -> Security & Privacy -> Files & Applications: iowait 25% for 5 mins LOL
[14:37] <v4169sgr> unity-control-center crash stack
[14:38] <Besp> afternoon everyone - just wondering if anyone has installed ubuntu on a tablet and what the general view was as to how useful that was?  I have a hudl2 which is grinding to a halt now so was going to wipe it however never installed to a tablet before
[14:39] <lotuspsychje> Besp: ubuntu desktop has touch support for tablets
[14:40] <lotuspsychje> Besp: but some machine might need some tweaking
[14:40] <Besp> how easy is it to install on an android tablet roughy (for someone who is at best a 'dabbler')?
[14:41] <lotuspsychje> Besp: it has to be a tablet that can run windows
[14:41] <Besp> ah
[14:41] <lotuspsychje> Besp: some other tablets can run ubuntu-touch, that is not going to be supported anymore
[14:42] <lotuspsychje> Besp: the #ubports project continues, check it out
[14:42] <Besp> I have no idea what that means :) but I shall presently have a nosey...
[14:44] <lotuspsychje> Besp: ubuntu-touch project is based on unity and wont continue in the future, but some devs that worked on it, will continue the project with #ubports
[14:46] <lotuspsychje> Besp: what kind of tablet did you wish to install ubuntu on?
[14:46] <Besp> cheers indeed, I shall see if anyone has any nifty ideas!  its a hudl2 - one of those budget tesco things that I got about 2 years ago.  It has pretty much ground to a halt now so I don't mind if I break it, which I find is always a good starting point for messing with technology I find!
[14:47] <mooshoe> how much work has ubports actually done
[14:48] <leftyfb> so I'm trying to recover a trusty install who's packaging system has got WAY out of whack. I can usually recover these things but there seems to be this one symptom that keeps coming up. "NameError: name 'av' is not defined"
[14:48] <leftyfb> I think it has something to do with python3
[14:48] <lotuspsychje> mooshoe: look at their website how much devices they support
[14:49] <leftyfb> but almost nothing comes up on google for that error
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> mooshoe: there is also a donate to port buttton
[14:50] <mooshoe> Ok.
[14:50] <FinalX> leftyfb: NameError does sound very pythony. but it could be any number of scripts/libraries missing that "av", where/when do you get that error to begin with? :)
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> leftyfb: can you explain at wich point you are? can you still boot the system etc?
[14:51] <leftyfb> lotuspsychje: it'll probably boot. Haven't tried. It's completely remote and I'd like to keep access to it
[14:52] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | leftyfb try this?
[14:52] <leftyfb> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24801007/
[14:52] <leftyfb> lotuspsychje: I don't see how single user mode is going to fix a packaging/python issue
[14:53] <lotuspsychje> leftyfb: did you add any ppa's of any kind to your system?
[14:55] <nacc> leftyfb: it's a weird error. looking at the code, 'av' is defined in the enclosing loop
[14:56] <leftyfb> lotuspsychje: yes, but that is not the problem. They are mostly ROS packages that are installed and functional on about 100 other machines. They're also removed from this system at this point. They also do not replace/upgrade any of the system python packages.
[14:56] <leftyfb> nacc: code for what? python3?
[14:56] <nacc> leftyfb: the code  in the backtrace.
[14:56] <nacc> leftyfb: /usr/lib/python3.4/sre_compile.p
[14:56] <nacc> *.py
[14:57] <leftyfb>     for op, av in pattern:
[14:58] <leftyfb> first result for "av"
[14:58] <marvin3> any gimp users? is it possible to automatically have "rectangle selection" tool picked on start up?
[14:58] <leftyfb> nacc: that file is identical on all the other machines
[14:59] <nacc> leftyfb: right, which is the enclosing loop
[15:00] <leftyfb> nacc: sorry, I don't follow. I'm not that great with python.
[15:00] <oerheks> marvin3, you might want to check out the gimp channel too, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/how-to-make-rectangle-select-tool-in-gimp-the-default-selection-889169/ if this does not work
[15:01] <nacc> leftyfb: line 84 is sets 'op' and 'av' for the loop. leftyfb the loop is the remainder of that function, so that name is absolutely defined in that scope. On the other systems, `python3 --version` and `python --version` is identical, too?
[15:02] <marvin3> oerheks thanks
[15:03] <leftyfb> nacc: yes. All package versions are identical
[15:06] <lotuspsychje> leftyfb: when did this problem start to occur?
[15:06] <leftyfb> lotuspsychje: it was given to me in this state to fix
[15:07] <leftyfb> lotuspsychje: to be honest, it doesn't much matter. At this point i've taken it down to a point where the issue I think is getting around this python error message
[15:07] <lotuspsychje> leftyfb: for volunteers its always handy to backtrace what happened exactly, to help you better
[15:09] <lotuspsychje> leftyfb: you dont know if they compiled python instead of installing from the repos or something?
[15:10] <leftyfb> lotuspsychje: yes, I understand all that. Lets get assume you're not dealing with an amateur in dealing with these types of things. It's slightly more complicated then a typical packaging issue. This error is preventing packages from getting configured I think using py3compile or py3clean. I have these packages downloaded and tried removing and reinstalling using dpkg ... nothing seems to get around this error
[15:10] <leftyfb> they did not compile python on these machines
[15:11] <ikonia> what version of python is this expecting to use
[15:11] <oerheks> leftyfb, did they install something via pip, or upgrade with pip?
[15:11] <leftyfb> oerheks: negative
[15:11] <leftyfb> ikonia: 3.4.3
[15:12] <ikonia> leftyfb: and where is that expected to come from
[15:12] <leftyfb> ikonia: trusty main
[15:13] <lotuspsychje> !info python3 trusty
[15:13] <ikonia> that doesn't look like 3.4.3
[15:13] <ikonia> I was just checking that manually, I forgot about the bot
[15:14] <leftyfb> hm, hold on
[15:14] <leftyfb> that doesn't make sense ... let me check some things
[15:16] <Pici> leftyfb: I missed some of the scrollback, but I'd double check that python -V doesn't report python3.
[15:17] <leftyfb> Pici: it doesn't
[15:17] <leftyfb> 2.7.6
[15:17] <leftyfb> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24801115/
[15:18] <leftyfb> that's from a functional machine
[15:19] <leftyfb> which -a python3 only shows the one in /usr/bin/python3
[15:19] <leftyfb> on the broken machine and all the functional ones
[15:20] <leftyfb> ok
[15:20] <leftyfb> I'm on a fresh install of trusty and python3 is definitely 3.4.3 from trust main even though the package version says 3.4.0
[15:21] <leftyfb> so I think it's safe to say that the python version isn't the issue
[15:25] <ilmaisin> on xenial, kaffeine apparently cannot play mp2/mp4
[15:27] <phoenixz> Hello there, I'm installing ubuntu server on a server with 2 120GB SSD drives and 2 4TB normal drives. I want to put the 120GB drives into RAID0 and then use encrypted LVM. Using text install, I got to the partitioning, I select manual partitioning and I can do all, but there, I cannot find anything about encryption.. How can I have encrypted LVM using the "manual partition setup" in the text installer of ubuntu server?
[15:28] <BluesKaj> ilmaisin, try vlc
[15:28] <Newbie83> How do I set a shortcut to screenshot a selected area in Ubuntu-mate?
[15:30] <Bergcube> OFFTOPIC Question. Can I set Liferea in Ubuntu to download all new/unread items, so that I can read them later offline? If so, how?
[15:30] <ilmaisin> BluesKaj: yes, vlc works but the point is why does ubuntu hoard broken packages in repos
[15:31] <BluesKaj> ilmaisin, kaffeine is an older player, mpv should play it, even dragonplayer if you're on kde/plasma
[15:33] <ilmaisin> BluesKaj: yeah, though some people seem to have picked up kaffeine's development again, but it's not in xenial however :(
[15:38] <BluesKaj> ilmaisin, I have have it in kubuntu 17.10 Artful devel OS...not sure if it's in zesty
[15:39] <ilmaisin> BluesKaj: yeah, since yakkety there is the new 2.x series kaffeine available
[15:40] <BluesKaj> yeah, 2.0.5-1 here
[15:41] <BluesKaj> looks like it's been resurrected alright
[15:42] <supercom32> Question: If I use DD on ubuntu to erase a USB drive, is blanking out with zeros significantly faster than with random data? Maybe with zeros, less data has to go across the USB cable, since it's all the same?
[15:43] <supercom32> I doubt it works that way, but I'm just grasping at straws :-) I assume random is just harder on the CPU?
[15:43] <BluesKaj> supercom32, what's your objective ?
[15:44] <oerheks> supercom32, zero or data, you better look at bs= (blocksize) this speeds up
[15:44] <supercom32> @bluekaj: Just a secure wipe of a drive before I give it out to someone else.
[15:45] <BluesKaj> just use gparted to format to fat32 if you want to run dd to create a bootable inmmage, supercom32
[15:45] <supercom32> @oerheks: I'm using a block size of 1M if that helps lol
[15:45] <BluesKaj> image rather'
[15:45] <frostschutz> supercom32, /dev/urandom used to be slow in old kernels... so if you want random data and fast, use shred -vn1 instead. if it's a HDD and you can coerce it to secure-erase itself it would go full speed even on slow usb2 (but you have to trust the drive to actually finishe the erase)
[15:47] <supercom32> I'm using USB 2.0, over a 500gb drive, so I assume it's going to take a while regardless. But I'm using "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX bs=1M" if that makes a difference (ie, if there was a faster option I could use).
[15:48] <frostschutz> supercom32, no... if it's connected to a hub you might try connecting it directly, but... no, usb2 is just slow. if you get 30M/s you're good
[15:49] <supercom32> @frostschutz: ah, thanks. Ya, I guess I'm just going to have to wait. :-)
[15:49] <leftyfb> ah
[15:49] <leftyfb> !info python3.4 trusty
[15:53] <raga> Hi
[15:53] <raga> I was facing an issue with my Ubuntu 16.04
[15:53] <raga> I have a dual booted machine
[15:53] <leftyfb> !enter | raga
[15:54] <raga> When I boot into Ubuntu, I always have to manually start lightdm using the command `sudo start lightdm`. The terminal shows `/usr/sbin/lightdm` when I enter `cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager` in it.
[15:55] <leftyfb> raga: https://askubuntu.com/questions/74551/lightdm-not-starting-on-boot
[15:55] <leftyfb> raga: first result on google btw
[15:55] <raga> Tried that. Not working
[15:57] <oerheks> raga, to enable lightdm on boot : sudo systemctl set-default graphical.target  # and disable to tty: sudo systemctl set-default multi-user.target
[15:58] <oerheks> i think you have used the last one somewhere
[15:58] <raga> oerheks, are they 2 separate commands ?
[15:59] <oerheks> raga yes, but you need "sudo systemctl set-default graphical.target " to make it work again
[16:00] <raga> To confirm, I first need to enter sudo systemctl set-default graphical.target in the terminal and then enter sudo systemctl set-default multi-user.target
[16:01] <raga> Done! Let me reboot again and will then inform you about the results. :)
[16:08] <raga> It did not work out
[16:08] <v4169sgr> What is a good way of starting to diagnose causes of massive iowait on 16.04.02 on an SSD?
[16:10] <raga> I have a dual boot machine. Whenever I try to boot into Ubuntu, I have to manually startup lightdm by entering sudo start lightdm in the tty. The terminal shows /usr/sbin/lightdm when I enter cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager in it
[16:12] <ctjctj_> Hello.  I'm running ubuntu 17.04.  I have ssh access to my remote machine.  I want to turn on desktop sharing so that I can access the *desktop* remotely using something like VNC.  What is the cli to start remote sharing?
[16:17] <oerheks> raga .. you didn't read me .. use the 1st command only to set to lightdm, the other command i told is to switch back ..
[16:17] <oerheks> raga> To confirm, I first need to enter sudo systemctl set-default graphical.target in the terminal
[16:17] <oerheks> *forget* and then enter sudo systemctl set-default multi-user.target
[16:18] <raga> Sorry, So I should only run sudo systemctl set-default graphical.target in the terminal?
[16:18] <oerheks> raga, yes. and then reboot
[16:19] <raga> Ok thanks, will repost after rebooting
[16:21] <brief> i added write permissions for everybody for file /etc/sudoers. how to change it back if sudo gives an error about writable sudoers file?
[16:22] <nacc> brief: what? why would you ever do that?
[16:22] <brief> i wasnt aware of visudo
[16:22] <oerheks> brief, time to reinstall :-D
[16:22] <ctjctj_> brief, you need to become root and change those permissions back. chmod 440 /etc/sudoers
[16:22] <nacc> ctjctj_: 'becoming root' by default on ubuntu uses sudo
[16:22] <oerheks> ctjctj_, to become root he must use sudoers :-D
[16:22] <ctjctj_> This is a problem because the way you become root is via sudo
[16:23] <brief> how to become root? reboot from a live cd and chroot? is there a faster approach?
[16:23] <ctjctj_> oerheks, nacc yes
[16:23] <genii> livecd time
[16:23] <nacc> brief: you can boot a live usb and fix it
[16:23] <oerheks> genii + 1
[16:23] <brief> argh
[16:23] <brief> but thx
[16:23] <ctjctj_> brief, you boot and go to the other options,  there is an option to allow you to boot to a rescue shell.
[16:24] <ctjctj_> once there you should be able to do your chmod and then reboot and have it work.
[16:24] <ctjctj_> genii, I believe the current grub boot menus will get you to root without needing a livecd/usb
[16:25] <brief> ctjctj_: you mean recovery mode?
[16:25] <ctjctj_> brief, yes, I think that is what it is called
[16:27] <brief> ok, it worked after mount -o remount,rw /
[16:27] <ctjctj_> yes
[16:28] <ctjctj_> Rescue mode allows you to "continue booting" I don't trust that so normally reboot instead.
[16:28] <ctjctj_> I.e. shutdown -r now
[16:28] <oerheks> i don't think recovery mode & mounting rw will work, fixing sudoers, forgot the reason why
[16:29] <ctjctj_> oerheks, changing permissions on a file is a reasonable thing to do in recovery/rescue modes.
[16:30] <ctjctj_> There might be an issue with visudo in rescue/recovery mode.
[16:30] <raga> It did not work
 It did not work
[16:33] <akik> "mount -o remount,rw /" works in 14.04 recovery mode. did it break in a later release?
[16:34] <raga> I have a dual boot machine. Whenever I try to boot into Ubuntu, I have to manually startup lightdm by entering sudo start lightdm in the tty.
[16:35] <ctjctj_> akik, it works on 16.10 for sure.  Used it not so long ago.
[16:38] <jnewt> can't get to usb sticks.  tried two, when i plug them in, they show in computer, but double click and it says unable to mount location, an operation is already pending
[16:38] <clarkk> jnewt: did you try single clicking?
[16:39] <jnewt> just highlights the icon clarkk
[16:39] <ctjctj_> jnewt, did it show up in your dash? did you try right click->open
[16:41] <jnewt> i have mate de, i don't think i have dash
[16:42] <ctjctj_> That bar that runs down the left side of your screen?
[16:54] <raga> I have a dual boot machine. Whenever I try to boot into Ubuntu, I have to manually startup lightdm by entering sudo start lightdm in the tty.
[16:56] <guysoft42> hey all, i upgraded my kubuntu 17.04, and now my network-manager does not work. I can configure Internet using ifconfig and route, but network manager does not acquire any IP
[16:56] <BluesKaj> raga, sudo systemctl enable lightdm, then sudo systemctl start lightdm , that should fix your issue, iirc.
[16:57] <raga> Hi, I have a dual boot machine. Whenever I try to boot into Ubuntu, I have to manually startup lightdm by entering sudo start lightdm in the tty.
[16:57] <BluesKaj> raga, read my post above^
[16:58] <BluesKaj> raga, sudo systemctl enable lightdm, then sudo systemctl start lightdm , that should fix your issue, iirc.
[16:58] <raga> BluesKaj I am unable to read above as I just logged on
[16:58] <BluesKaj> rage you left just before I poated
[16:59] <raga> In terminal?
[16:59] <BluesKaj> yes raga in the vt/tty
[17:00] <raga> BluesKaj, Should I run this in tty at the time of rebooting or could I do it now in the terminal?
[17:01] <BluesKaj> guysoft42, try sudo dhclient
[17:01] <BluesKaj> raga, in the tty
[17:01] <raga> BluesKaj, Failed to start lightdm.service: Unknown unit: lightdm.service See system logs and 'systemctl status lightdm.service' for details. I ran this in the terminal
[17:02] <BluesKaj> raga, as I said in the vt/tty
[17:03] <raga> BluesKaj, Ok I am rebooting now. When I boot again I will post the result
[17:04] <guysoft42> BluesKaj, dhclient gives me Segmentation fault (core dumped)!
[17:04] <BluesKaj> guysoft42, make sure network-manager is installed
[17:05] <BluesKaj> BBL
[17:05] <guysoft42> BluesKaj, it is, also i apt-get remove --purge and reinstalled it, its there, I can also turn the service up, it seems to get a generic ipv6 , but no ipv4
[17:07] <guysoft42> can anyone help me out? ddclient segfaults, network-manager gets no addresses
[17:10] <oerheks> guysoft42, if you have windows10 installed too, disable fastboot? that could prevent the use of wireless/usb/bt and such
[17:12] <guysoft42> oerheks, I have no windows 10. It started happening after upgrading my packages
[17:12] <guysoft42> oerheks, also, it works fine using ifconfig+route+/etc/resolv.conf and setting the IP manually. that is how I am connected now
[17:12] <guysoft42> bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/isc-dhcp/+bug/1696499
[17:13] <raga> BluesKaj , it did not work
[17:13] <BluesKaj> !did not work
[17:13] <guysoft42> It really looks like a bug, or some dependency clash
[17:14] <raga> I got Failed to start lightdm.service: Unkown unit: lightdm.service
[17:15] <BluesKaj> raga, then try gdm instead, it's gonna replace lightdm on july1st anyway, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/06/ubuntu-decides-replace-lightdm-gdm
[17:16] <raga> BluesKaj, should I first try to reinstall ubntu-desktop using sudo apt-get install --reinstall gnome-session ubuntu-desktop
[17:17] <BluesKaj> raga, dunno, i don't use gnome
[17:18] <raga> BluesKaj , could you tell me the steps to replace lightdm by gdm?
[17:18] <BluesKaj> raga, don't think reinstalling the DE will make a difference , try installing gdm
[17:19] <raga> BluesKaj , how do I confirm if I have gnome?
[17:21] <jnewt_> ctjctj_, no i don't have that dash.  i have a top and bottom bar, top has the menus the bottom shows what is open
[17:21] <BluesKaj> raga, sudo apt install gdm3
[17:22] <stochastix> After installing puppet,  /opt/puppetlabs/bin  was in roots path, but after a restart it was gone again.  Should i just add it to profile, or is there a better way to make it persistent?
[17:23] <raga> BluesKaj, it says gdm3 is already the newest version. gdm3 set to manually installed
[17:23] <ioria> raga why you have both ?
[17:24] <leftyfb> BluesKaj: suggesting gdm isn't really a fix for the issue
[17:24] <raga> ioria, i don't remember installing gdm
[17:24] <ioria> raga it does not install by itself ...
[17:25] <raga> ioria, Yes thats why I said I don't "remember"
[17:25] <ioria> raga  cat /etc/issue     and uname -r
[17:25] <ctjctj_> jnewt_, what does df show you? Is the USB already mounted?
[17:25] <raga> ioria, 4.4.0-78-generic
[17:26] <ioria> raga  cat /etc/issue   .... ? xenial ?
[17:26] <BluesKaj> raga, to find your DE, env | grep DESKTOP_SESSION=
[17:26] <raga> ioria, Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS \n \l
[17:27] <BluesKaj> leftyfb, so what do you suggest ?
[17:27] <ioria> raga  grep cdrom /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:28] <raga> ioria, done
[17:28] <ioria> raga the output ?
[17:28] <raga> BluesKaj, could you come again
[17:28] <raga> ioria, nothing
[17:28] <leftyfb> raga: what exactly changed when your lightdm stopped running at boot?
[17:28] <raga> leftyfb, I was trying to install tensorflow in python3. For that I tried to update nvidia drivers.
[17:29] <BluesKaj> raga, copy and paste this,  env | grep DESKTOP_SESSION= into the console/terminal
[17:29] <ioria> raga  update how ?
[17:29] <leftyfb> raga: how did you try to install the nvidia drivers? These are working now after manually starting lightdm?
[17:29] <leftyfb> BluesKaj: that will only show what DE is running after starting lightdm manually. Doesn't really help.
[17:29] <jnewt_> ctjctj_: i don't think so, i have /dev/nvme0n1p[3,5,6] (my ssd), udev, and 5 tempfs, but it looks like the computer window / folder shows it as /dev/sdb
[17:30] <raga> BluesKaj, DESKTOP_SESSION=ubuntu
[17:30] <jnewt_> i just tried to double click again and it says unable to open, an operation is pending.
[17:30] <raga> leftyfb, I went to nvidia website. It did not go as planned. So i followed this https://askubuntu.com/questions/760934/graphics-issues-after-while-installing-ubuntu-16-04-16-10-with-nvidia-graphics
[17:30] <jnewt_> i see sdb and sdb1 in /dev/
[17:31] <leftyfb> raga: sudo apt-get install --reinstall lightdm ; sudo systemctl enable lightdm ; sudo systemctl start lightdm
[17:31] <jnewt_> and i just tried one of the usb disks on my windows laptop, it works fine, it's something with ubuntu causing the problem
[17:31] <ctjctj_> jnewt_, old school: $ sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[17:31] <BluesKaj> leftyfb, he wanted to which DE he was using ...that's what ifound here, https://askubuntu.com/questions/125062/how-can-i-find-which-desktop-enviroment-i-am-using
[17:31] <raga> leftyfb, in the terminal or after rebooting?
[17:32] <raga> in tty
[17:32] <leftyfb> raga: right now
[17:32] <BluesKaj> to know
[17:32] <leftyfb> well
[17:32] <leftyfb> leave out the last part
[17:32] <leftyfb> if you're running the desktop already
[17:32] <leftyfb> you probably want to add ubuntu-desktop to that as well
[17:32] <ioria> it does not explain why he has gdm3
[17:32] <raga> leftyfb, sorry I am a newbie, could you post the command
[17:33] <jnewt_> ctjctj_: Unable to mount 7.7 GB Volume Operation was cancelled
[17:33] <jnewt_> and that pops up as a window, not a cl return
[17:33] <leftyfb> ioria: he probably followed one of those "ifs" from the link he posted
[17:33] <ioria> oh
[17:33] <leftyfb> raga: sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop lightdm ; sudo systemctl enable lightdm
[17:33] <ioria> maybe then a sudo spkg-reconfigure
[17:34] <ctjctj_> jnewt_, that might be a good thing.  df and see if it mounted on /mnt and then ls /mnt if it did
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[17:34] <nicomachus> dnssoul: that's enough of that.
[17:34] <raga> leftyfb, done!
[17:34]  * BluesKaj backs off, too many cooks now
[17:34] <leftyfb> raga: sudo systemctl status lightdm
[17:34] <leftyfb> raga: post the entire output of that to pastebin
[17:35] <raga> leftyfb, Failed to get properties: No such interface ' '
[17:36] <leftyfb> huh?
[17:36] <leftyfb> raga: can you paste all of the lines to pastebin please?
[17:36] <jnewt_> ctjctj_: it did.  can you explain what is going on here?  i understand what was done, but still don't know why it doesn't just mount it when i plug it in and why i still can't click the usb icon in computer folder to get to it.
[17:36] <raga> leftyfb, this is the only line that I get
[17:37] <leftyfb> raga: sudo systemctl status syslog
[17:37] <ctjctj_> jnewt_, I don't know what "is going on".  My belief is that there is a permissions issue either on the mount initiated via the double click or on the default mount directories (/media) or on access to the drive or it could be partition stuff.
[17:37] <ctjctj_> jnewt_, I just wanted to get you access to your USB so I have proved to myself that the USB drive is good and that we have a filesystem that we can mount.
[17:37] <ctjctj_> Is that good enough?
[17:38] <raga> leftyfb, Failed to get properties: No such interface ''
[17:38] <dlam> hey is there a way/command to figure out whats adding to my load average?  ...its my web server, im thinking its IO or something
[17:39] <leftyfb> raga: sudo apt-get install --reinstall systemd
[17:39] <oerheks> raga, you you installed ubuntu desktop and gnome session, and you need to switch to lightdm from gdm??
[17:39] <oerheks> just read back, the gnome-0session is causing this..
[17:39] <leftyfb> oerheks: bigger problems
[17:40] <AndrewMock> My netinst can never all the packages. Is that because of bad mirrors?
[17:40] <ioria> looks like the .unit files are gone
[17:40] <AndrewMock> scratch that its because of ipv6 issues
[17:40] <raga_> leftyfb, addgroup: The group `systemd-journal' already exists as a system group. Exiting. Operation failed: No such file or directory
[17:40] <leftyfb> oerheks: also, he does not want to switch to gdm. That was something someone else suggested as a workaround, not an actual fix
[17:41] <leftyfb> raga_: ls -l /etc/systemd/system/
[17:41] <jnewt_> ctjctj_, that's a good explanation as to what you were trying to accomplish.  I guess my interest is in the part about the permissions or partition stuff.  any idea how to track down what I should have so I can compare to what I do have on /media or anywhere else that could be causing the problem?
[17:41] <BluesKaj> leftyfb, gdm will replace lightdm on july 1st anyway
[17:42] <leftyfb> BluesKaj: not exactly
[17:42] <raga_> leftyfb, https://pastebin.com/jmg7yaMK
[17:42] <leftyfb> BluesKaj: it will become the default in fresh installs of future versions of ubuntu. It will not change for current installations
[17:42] <ctjctj_> jnewt_, on my 16.10 I have 755 /media and 750 /media/username
[17:43] <jnewt_> ctjctj_: my /media is 755 root root, and my /media/username 750+ root root
[17:44] <ctjctj_> I'm guessing that the double click is attempting to use fusermount to do the mount.  But I've never verified this.  It is either FM (it just works) or I go cli old school.
[17:44] <jnewt_> should i be the owner on the /media/username folder?
[17:44] <ctjctj_> no, mine is root:root as well.
[17:45] <leftyfb> raga_: maybe sudo service systemd-journald start
[17:45] <jnewt_> i'm 16.04 LTS, could much have changed to 16.10
[17:45] <raga_> leftyfb, systemd-journald: unrecognized service
[17:46] <ctjctj_> jnewt_, I can't tell if it used fusermount but it could very well have.  Right click and open of a device caused file manager to show on the newly mounted file system.  /media/username/UUID (drive was /dev/mapper/iscsipool-mysqldb)
[17:46] <leftyfb> raga_: You've got a pretty broken system there
[17:47] <raga_> leftyfb , what do you suggest?
[17:47] <ctjctj_> jnewt_, this hasn't operational hasn't change from the start of unity.  As far as I can tell/remember.
[17:47] <leftyfb> raga_: reinstallation?
[17:47] <ioria> raga  ps -A | head -2
[17:48] <raga_> ioria , PID TTY          TIME CMD
[17:48] <raga_> 1 ?        00:00:01 init
[17:48] <ioria> wow
[17:48] <leftyfb> upstart?
[17:48] <ioria> does it explain a lot
[17:48] <leftyfb> yep
[17:48] <leftyfb> is this upgraded from an older version of ubuntu?
[17:48] <raga_> No
[17:49] <raga_> I am on a dual boot
[17:49] <ioria> maybe a wrong grub selection
[17:49] <raga_> What to do?
[17:50] <leftyfb> ioria: how would kernel selection dictate the init system?
[17:50] <ioria> leftyfb, you can choose from grub>ADVANCED OPTIONS
[17:50] <leftyfb> really?
[17:50] <ioria> YEP
[17:50] <leftyfb> learn something new every day
[17:51] <raga_> One thing: Once I reinstalled nvidia drivers, the grub menu is now black in color
[17:51] <ioria> brb
[17:51] <jnewt_> ctjctj_: fusermount seems to only take the mountpoint as an argument (just looking at the man page).  I was hoping to replicate whatever command is normally executed upon plugging in a disk to see if it gives me a sane error response.  any idea what that command would look like?
[17:52] <ctjctj_> jnewt_, sorry no.  Unfortunately the paying people need more of my attention right now.
[17:53] <raga_> leftyfb, I am on a dual boot, Whats the best way to fresh install only Ubuntu?
[17:55] <SwedeMike> raga_: just to be clear, you want to re-install Ubuntu but not touch the other operating system?
[17:55] <raga_> Yep, If I am unable to resolve my issue
[17:57] <raga_> leftyfb, ioria, Are you there?
[17:58] <renn0xtk9> how can i get hp-setup working in a post (! 5 years already) qt-4 era ?
[17:58] <renn0xtk9> I mean i have qt5 on my kubuntu
[17:59] <ctjctj_> raga_, boot off your install media, go through the process.  It will tell you it has detected an install of ubuntu.  You'll figure out how to overwrite that install.  Only thing is you'll have to install grub correctly.  Not a bit issue.
[18:00] <raga_> ctjctj_ I think I should let ioria, leftyfb to come back. They might be able to solve the issue
[18:00] <leftyfb> ctjctj_: it's not a grub installation issue
[18:00] <ctjctj_> raga_, not a bad choice.
[18:01] <renn0xtk9> i got xsane installed however it will only scan tht top part of the sheet
[18:01] <ctjctj_> leftyfb, I wasn't saying it was a grub issue.  He stated that he did not want to affect the other systems on his drive.  grub is the only thing that comes near the other OSs
[18:01] <renn0xtk9> what to do?
[18:02] <ctjctj_> leftyfb, I was answering his question of "How do I do a total wipe and reinstall"
[18:02] <ReneagdeZed> hey guys, where can i go if i have a problem installing windows xp on a dell inspiron 1521, with a usb drive, from an iso i created with rufus
[18:02] <leftyfb> ReneagdeZed: don't
[18:03] <akik> ReneagdeZed: xp is end-of-life and this channel is for ubuntu support
[18:03] <ReneagdeZed> my question was, is there an irc room that could help me
[18:04] <ctjctj_> ReneagdeZed, you download and install the windows upgrade from: https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/contribute?version=17.04&architecture=amd64
[18:04] <tgm4883> !alis | ReneagdeZed this isn't a phone directory
[18:04] <ctjctj_> The upgrade is pretty seamless.
[18:06] <raga_> leftyfb, What should I do?
[18:06] <leftyfb> raga_: reinstall
[18:07] <raga_> leftyfb, Could you please guide how to do so. Also Ubuntu 17 or 16?
[18:07] <leftyfb> raga_: I would suggest 16.04. Unfortunately, I don't have the time right now
[18:08] <raga_> leftyfb, Would the dual boot get affected?
[18:09] <nicomachus> wget -nv http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:Horst3180/xUbuntu_16.04/Release.key -O Release.key
[18:09] <nicomachus> wooooooooooooooooooooops
[18:10] <ctjctj_> raga_, your OSs exist on different partitions.  If you don't choose the wrong partition during the install you'll be fine.  The ONLY thing that affects all your OSs is the install of grub on the MBR and that is very safe.
[18:10] <raga_> ctjctj_ ok thanks
[18:12] <raga_> ctjctj_ , Should I install ubuntu 17 or 16?
[18:12] <ctjctj_> raga_, the problem with your question is that we can't predict what the user is going to do.  just like the joke of "here's how to make your documents easier to read.  at the command window type CMD c:  the c: tells it to clean punctuation.  If you do CMD you'll do damage and we can't keep you from doing that.  If you pick the wrong partition you will destroy something and there is no way for us to hold your hand through that.
[18:13] <ctjctj_> 16.04 is long term support.  It works great.  Is this for a desktop or a server?
[18:13] <raga_> ctjctj_ Desktop.
[18:13] <ctjctj_> My servers ALL run LTS.  My desktops run anything post 14.04.  (14.10,15.04,15.10,16.04,16.10, 17.04
[18:14] <ctjctj_> I've just switched to 17.04 on my home desk.  I'd suggest 16.10 for you.  Stabilish.  16.04 if you want real stability.
[18:15] <ctjctj_> Depends on your comfort level.
[18:15] <raga_> ctjctj_ I will go with 16 then
[18:15] <BluesKaj> heh, from my expereince 16.04 is still buggy
[18:16] <leftyfb> BluesKaj: not any more than the later versions. Less so I would stay.
[18:16] <ctjctj_> BluesKaj, they are all buggy to some extent.
[18:16] <BluesKaj> but I digress
[18:16] <leftyfb> raga_: 16.04, not 16.10
[18:16] <raga_> So does everybody think the best approach is to do a reinstall?
[18:16] <ctjctj_> raga_, well, of the 3 or four people talking with you, I think that is the consensus.
[18:17] <ctjctj_> I'll double down on leftyfb 16.04LTS
[18:17] <BluesKaj> why he can still get na desktop from the tty
[18:18] <raga_> BluesKaj,  Yes thats the only reason I don't want to reinstall, everything else on my system is working fine. Also I am a bit afraid that something my go rogue in my dual boot
[18:18] <BluesKaj> sorry vt/tty
[18:18] <leftyfb> BluesKaj: he's got some sort of hybrid systemd/upstart going on and we don't know why. Quicker to just reinstall than to walk through debugging.
[18:19] <raga_> leftyfb, But I made a lot of changes and installed a lot of things on Ubuntu :(
[18:19] <BluesKaj> left he's gonna run into the grub install into the uefi/boot and from my understand it's tricky
[18:20] <BluesKaj> understanding
[18:20] <ctjctj_> BluesKaj, he's already booting so he's past that UEFI boot issue.
[18:20] <ctjctj_> The only thing that grub is going to do is rewrite the MBR.
[18:21] <leftyfb> BluesKaj: it has nothing to do with how grub is installed
[18:21] <BluesKaj> let's hope you guys are there to help if that's possibel...i just wiperd gpt and uefi off my laptop, couldn't be bothered wih it
[18:22] <raga_> leftyfb, will the color of grub menu also change on reinstalling. Its currently gone black since my issues started?
[18:23] <leftyfb> raga_: I don't know since I don't understand that issue exactly
[18:24] <BluesKaj> nice
[18:28] <BluesKaj> leftyfb, the bootloader normally installs after the OS is finished installing IME
[18:28] <leftyfb> BluesKaj: ok?
[18:28] <raga_> leftyfb, Ubuntu or LinuxMint or any other distro that you recommend?
[18:28] <leftyfb> raga_: if you ask in #ubuntu, you're usually going to get people to suggest Ubuntu
[18:29] <raga_> Is every distro stable?
[18:29] <leftyfb> no
[18:30] <raga_> How do I change from one distro to another?
[18:30] <azizLIGHT> how come not all my commands ive asked bash get stored in .bash_history
[18:30] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: such as what? you have to close the session for the commands to save
[18:31] <Slart> azizLIGHT: do you mean repeated commands? or just some commands? all commands from one shell?
[18:31] <Sleaker> azizLIGHT: unless you do some hacky stuff in your bash profile, history only gets written on exit.
[18:31] <azizLIGHT> im not sure what i do but i have commands like mount and such that were never recorded
[18:31] <leftyfb> azizLIGHT: if you have a space in front of your command, it won't go into your .bash_history. Also, it doesn't always write it right away. You'll have to exit your session to see the updated file.
[18:31] <azizLIGHT> i have multiple terminal windows open in gui
[18:31] <raga_> ioria, You there?
[18:31] <azizLIGHT> and i write commands all over in different terminals everwhere
[18:32] <azizLIGHT> what constitutes a proper exit vs a impromper exit for terminal
[18:32] <azizLIGHT> such that command history wasnt written
[18:32] <azizLIGHT> does the command have to complete with sucesss?
[18:32] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: did you paste the commands? adding a space before them won't add them as leftyfb said
[18:32] <rainabba> Is WIN10 WSL/Ubuntu considered an "Unofficial derivative"? When apt-get install is trying to retrieve the wrong version; one that is neither matching the kernel NOR what's in a package repo), what is wrong and how do I resolve it? Trying to do an apt-get upgrade right now (ultimately to get chromium-dev installed from a PPA (see https://launchpad.net/~saiarcot895/+archive/ubuntu/chromium-dev)
[18:32] <rainabba> so I can play with headless mode.
[18:33] <azizLIGHT> oh crap... the space thing
[18:33] <azizLIGHT> might be it
[18:33] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: if you kill the bash shell for instance it won't save
[18:33] <azizLIGHT> usually i let the command finish, and then X out the terminal window
[18:34] <azizLIGHT> sometimes i ctrl-c out of the command and then X the terminal window same way
[18:34] <azizLIGHT> i might have been typing spaces in front of the command due to paste though
[18:34] <azizLIGHT> other times ive done shutdown with many terminal windows open
[18:34] <azizLIGHT> what happens in that case
[18:34] <j4ckcom> hello :) how can i install vmware tool on ubuntu?
[18:35] <rainabba> j4ckcom: Desktop or ESIx?
[18:35] <azizLIGHT> or ive gone to the unity launcher and right click the terminal window icon, and hit quit in the context menu
[18:35] <j4ckcom> desktop rainabba :)
[18:36] <rainabba> j4ckcom: Just making sure :) I haven't done it in a while, but last time I had to get the installer binary from vmware through the purchase/trial process, then execute that install binary.
[18:38] <tomreyn> consider virtualbox as a free alternative (unless you need the proprietary add-ons)
[18:39] <j4ckcom> rainabba: lik this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5WaWIfi8f8
[18:39] <j4ckcom> ?
[18:40] <BluesKaj> raga_, what's happening ?
[18:40] <raga_> Downloading the iso
[18:40] <raga_> 40 m left
[18:40] <BluesKaj> which iso
[18:41] <ctjctj_> j4ckcom, or you can use kvm.  Maybe looking at https://www.openstack.org/ as well?
[18:41] <j4ckcom> ok thanks ctjctj_
[18:41] <j4ckcom> :)
[18:41] <zuiss1> sometimes in ubuntu my laptop touchpad stops responding and freezes the computer for a minute. it's a new laptop so could it be that my kernel in 16.04 LTS are too old?
[18:42] <BluesKaj> raga can you boot into windows ?
[18:44] <raga_> Yes
[18:44] <raga_> BluesKaj , Yes
[18:45] <BluesKaj> raga_, and you can run ubuntu ok after starting lightdm ?
[18:45] <raga_> Yes
[18:45] <raga_> BluesKaj, Yes
[18:47] <BluesKaj> then why reinstall the OS , you might find a fix in the near future, that knowledgeable person hasn't appeared here yet that's all...
[18:47] <raga> BluesKaj, It has been 2/3 hours since I have been here
[18:49] <BluesKaj> raga, live with it for a few days ..you'll eventually find someone who knows how to solve the issue, which isn't really all that serious IMO. You have a working ystem that just needs a couple of commands in the tty to work properly in the meantime.
[18:50] <raga> BluesKaj, I think you are right
[18:50] <raga> BluesKaj, Should I post this question here again tomorrow?
[18:50] <BluesKaj> raga, yes of course
[18:50] <tgm4883> raga: every few hours actually
[18:51] <raga> tgm4883 , Its 1am here
[18:51] <BluesKaj> tgm4883, exactlyif he has the time
[18:51] <tgm4883> posting at the same time tomorrow is going to get you 90%+ the same people
[18:51] <tomodachi> in launchpad it says "fix released"  how long till its available via apt?
[18:51] <raga> I would post at a different time
[18:51] <tgm4883> tomodachi: link?
[18:52] <tomodachi> tgm4883: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sssd/+bug/1566508
[18:52] <BluesKaj> raga,, there will be different people here on the weekend
[18:52] <raga> BluesKaj, Okay I will wait for a few days.
[18:52] <BluesKaj> raga, I think that's wise
[18:52] <tgm4883> tomodachi: probably 24 hours
[18:53] <raga> ioria, Thank God, I waited for you
[18:53] <ioria>  really  ?
[18:54] <raga> Yup you said you would brb
[18:54] <tomodachi> tgm4883: sweet, thnx !
[18:54] <ioria> oh , yes ....
[18:54] <ioria> systemd / init issue
[18:54] <raga> Could you please wait for 5 min
[18:54] <ioria> sure
[18:54] <raga> I had booted into windows
[18:54] <raga> and was deleting android studio there
[18:55] <raga> lol
[18:56] <Joadr> Hello, I own an Asus Zenbook Pro and it comes with an Intel HD Graphics 530 and Nvidia GTX 960 the thing is that I cannot plug multiple monitors, only one of them works
[18:57] <Joadr> the weird thing is that I has worked before. Ive plugged two monitors and worked well for like 3 minutes, and the one of the monitors shut down.
[18:57] <ledeni> raga,did you try 'systemctl enable lightdm'
[18:57] <raga> ledeni, Yes
[18:57] <Joadr> One of the monitors is connected with the HDMI Port and the other with the usb-c port (thunderbolt 3 also)
[18:58] <Joadr> any idea of how to make it work?
[19:00] <raga> ioria, Actually would it be possible if I come here again tomorrow, as it is 1am here?
[19:00] <ioria> raga, sure, why not ?
[19:00] <raga> would you be here?
[19:01] <ioria> raga, yes
[19:01] <raga> Time?
[19:01] <ioria> raga, almost the same, also earlier ....
[19:02] <raga> Ok thanks for help everyone. Bye
[19:02] <ioria> raga, you're welcome
[19:03] <Joadr> with nvidia graphics is it still needed to install prime or bumblebee?
[19:03] <ioria> Joadr, prime , if hybrid
[19:04] <Joadr> ioria: Thanks! and I should install prime and then the nvidia graphics driver?
[19:04] <ioria> Joadr,  if you install nvidia proprietary , prime will be installed
[19:05] <Joadr> ioria: thanks! I will give it a try
[19:05] <ioria> Joadr,  with gtx i'd disable secure boot, if enabled
[19:06] <rainabba> j4ckcom: That video is for OpenVM which some OS's need when running under VMware to get full acceleration. You're looking to install VMWare Workstation though right (virtualization for desktop)?
[19:06] <j4ckcom> rainabba: i solved it already thanks :)
[19:07] <rainabba> :)
[19:08] <beached> hello, this is the help channel for ubuntu right?
[19:08] <beached> There is a process running on our ubuntu server called Crypto, is this a normal process or is this something to be concerned about?
[19:11] <ioria> beached, yep, it's a kernel module
[19:11] <ioria> beached, lsmod | grep -i cryp
[19:13] <s_spiff> if I have an extra hard drive (apart from the one which has ubuntu installed), and I want to use it as a data storage drive, what is the preferred format for the drive? gpt or dos?
[19:14] <Sleaker> s_spiff: probably gpt.
[19:14] <s_spiff> nvm, figured out
[19:14] <Sleaker> and ext4.
[19:14] <beached> ioria, https://pastebin.com/iwUj2RXe
[19:14] <s_spiff> @ Sleaker - was that for me?
[19:14] <Sleaker> yes
[19:15] <Sleaker> gpt/mbr are just 2 different partition structures.
[19:15] <beached> ty ioria, I thought it was something like that, the kernal crypto api, just wanted to get it verified by others
[19:15] <s_spiff> Sleaker: ah.. thanks. I was reading a a howto article and found out about when to use gpt and when to use mbr.. I have 3.7G hard drives
[19:15] <ioria> beached, it's ok
[19:15] <s_spiff> Sleaker: I formatted the drive as GPT with ext4
[19:15] <Sleaker> s_spiff: should work just fine like that.
[19:15] <Sleaker> unless it's a USB drive and you intend to use it on windows.
[19:15] <Sleaker> also*
[19:17] <s_spiff> Sleaker: internal drive to store backups.
[19:35] <nikitha> someone asked this question, i was unable to answer it quite abit to my satisfaction because i myself don't know properly, hope in forum very same old question and blah blah...."what are career option with linux other than linux admin ?"    "can we get job based only doing   shell scripting ( include all linux commands  like grep,  sed , awk , few admin commands too )
[19:36] <Joadr> Has anybody been able to plug two monitors in an ubuntu notebook/
[19:36] <Joadr> ??
[19:36] <SwedeMike> nikitha: look into automation with ansible, chef, puppet etc, that will get you a job.
[19:40] <acetakwas> Is there any repo that allows me install php5-fpm?
[19:41] <acetakwas> It's no longer officially supported
[19:41] <genii> Why 5 and not 7
[19:42] <acetakwas> genii::  I need it temporarily
[19:43] <genii> acetakwas: Then download whatever last version of Ubuntu supported 5, run it in a vm
[19:44] <ioria> trusty, i guess
[19:44] <genii> Likely, or even earlier
[19:45] <genii> acetakwas: You can find the old versions at http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/ . Once you get it installed in a vm, change sourses.list file also to old-releases.ubuntu.com
[19:45] <genii> *sources.list
[19:49] <genii> You'll also need to enable universe
[19:52] <nikitha> SwedeMike: hearing these terms for firstime and it sends chill cool pain into spine , ansible, chef , puppet, everytime a new term come into picture and need to learn ,
[19:52] <nikitha> SwedeMike: have a good laugh i am hearing bigdata haddop, machine learning, deep learning, data scientist from past 3-4 years now and then i see poster , banner, ads in tv, internet ..etc etc still i dont know what it is , oh god hearing about cloud computing before then that but could not make out who /how it is been used ...
[19:53] <nikitha> SwedeMike: whats happening out there in the market could i not get a decent job with skills like  shellscripting now ....
[19:53] <nikitha> SwedeMike: in case of automation i hope linux will be there everywhere as i could see mostly end servers at corporate as linux themselves mostly who would risk with windows whose version may / may not gets released after  windows 10, and as such i didnot find any new features in it from little bit  older versions of windows 7,8 like that compare to windows 10.
[19:53] <SwedeMike> nikitha: well, lots of those things I mentioned are "shell scripting evolved".
[20:02] <phoenixz> Hello there, I'm installing ubuntu server (so doing install using text interface) on a desktop server with 2 120GB SSD drives and 2 4TB normal drives. I want to put the 120GB drives into RAID0 and then use encrypted LVM. This computer has EFI and secureboot and at the moment EFI enabled, secureboot disabled. Whatever I try, every single install fails at the end to install mbr, grub or whatever, I cannot get any install to finish correctly. I've
[20:02] <phoenixz> tried without EFI, same problem..
[20:03] <phoenixz> I've tried boot repair as well, doesn't fix the problem. I suspect it may have swomething to do with the encrypted LVM drive, but not sure
[20:03] <phoenixz> Anybody who might have a thought about this?
[20:30] <Scoop7> Hello I just did chmod -R -777 /.           <--- a really stupid stupid thing...
[20:30] <aotaointbin> ha.
[20:30] <leftyfb> Scoop7: reinstall
[20:30] <Scoop7> is it possible to resolve my ubuntu system ? I am still writing from the same OS.. have my browser working and my terminal working...
[20:30] <leftyfb> no
[20:31] <Scoop7> even before it finished changing permission i think i saved a bit by clicking ctrl+c
[20:31] <\9> yeah i don't think you can recover permissions in any feasible manner that won't take more time than reinstalling
[20:31] <phoenixz> Scoop7: Yeah, reboot and it will be dead. Backup & reinstall
[20:32] <phoenixz> Scoop7: chmod 777 should never be used in the first place, anywhere, I guess
[20:32] <\9> yeah 777 is dumb overall because you go directly against linux's security model
[20:32] <phoenixz> Scoop7: But beyond that, chmod 777 /. -F is only marginally less worse than rm /. -rf
[20:33] <\9> i don't know. rm-ing / would eventually reach the home folder
[20:33] <phoenixz> Scoop7: Basically, you still have all your files, so you can and SHOULD backup right away. Beyond that, your OS is a lost cause and should be reinstalled ASAP
[20:33] <leftyfb> Scoop7: you have 2 options. 1. Keep telling yourself everything is fine, keep using your computer the way it is. Make sure to mention this situation every time you ask for help here. 2. Reinstall
[20:33] <\9> or if you have /home on a separate partition, just reinstall
[20:33] <phoenixz> \9: Well yeah, I might have oversold that.. With chmod at least you still have all your data files.. Whcih are now executable, LOL
[20:34] <\9> phoenixz: it's easy to fix permissions in the home directory, 0755 (or 0700) for dirs and 0644 for files. +x for any executables, there shouldn't be very many of them
[20:34] <\9> phoenixz: the system? a whole other matter
[20:35] <Scoop7> it's not just the home... it was from the root   "/."
[20:35] <\9> right
[20:35] <\9> and that's why you need to reinstall
[20:35] <Scoop7> the actual command was executed not from the root, but you know....
[20:36] <\9> at least if that was with sudo. if it wasn't then i don't think it should have had any effect
[20:36] <\9> in which case we probably wouldn't be having this conversation
[20:36] <phoenixz> \9 I suppose find ~ -t file -exec chmod 0644 {} \; would take care of most of that yeah, but indeed, OS is FOOBAR
[20:37] <\9> FUBAR*
[20:37] <\9> but yea
[20:37] <Scoop7> getting 16.04 internal errors messages, barely see this chat... lol
[20:37] <phoenixz> Scoop7: Yeah, your system is FUBAR, reinstall
[20:37] <phoenixz> \9: yeah, I get that mixed up with foo and bar :)
[20:37] <\9> yea i guess i'm feeling pedantic right now
[20:37] <phoenixz> Anybody here who might know anything about how to fix a fresh ubuntu server install with RAID0 drives / encrypted LVM, install fails because grub install fails?
[20:38] <leftyfb> Scoop7: reinstall
[20:38] <Danielss89> hey, anyone doing freelance who can help with supervisor and max open files? I'm getting INFO spawnerr: too many open files to spawn - and i don't really want to spend a lot of time fixing it, i'd rather pay someone to help
[20:38] <leftyfb> phoenixz: you hate the data going onto this RAID 0 I take it?
[20:39] <leftyfb> Danielss89: run it through a for loop using incremental derivatives of the filenames you're trying to deal with
[20:39] <Danielss89> ehm
[20:39] <tgm4883> Danielss89: really? Too many open files is likely a 2 line config file
[20:40] <leftyfb> oh, the application "supervisor". Sorry, not familiar with that one
[20:40] <phoenixz> leftyfb: Not particularly, I just need a fast drive for that, so RAID0.. its boot, OS + will have some cache dirs that need speed.. All data must be encrypted, hence encrypted LVM. I have two other 4TB for the real data storage though
[20:40] <Danielss89> tgm4883 i tried a few things, but i still get the error
[20:40] <phoenixz> leftyfb: But beyond that, why doesn't grub want to be installed?
[20:40] <blkadder> Danielss89, https://underyx.me/2015/05/18/raising-the-maximum-number-of-file-descriptors
[20:41] <blkadder> Happy to charge you for it if you like. :-)
[20:41] <phoenixz> Danielss89: You sure you want to pay some random dude from IRC to go as a root user on your server?
[20:41] <phoenixz> Danielss89: I'd be happye to help out, really, but I would not recommend you take that path, honestly..
[20:43] <Danielss89> ok, i'll give it yet another try myself - I might just be back and take you up on it phoenixz :D
[20:43] <Danielss89> blkadder thanks, i'll take a look
[20:43] <blkadder> np
[20:48] <Scoop7> just did chmod 775 -R to my /home/username
[20:49] <Scoop7> my OS seemed working better instantly
[20:49] <Scoop7> seems
[20:49] <Scoop7> i doubt the the problem is solved ofc, but will check... lol
[20:49] <ctjctj_> scoop7 not a good choice.
[20:49] <phoenixz> Scoop7: Not sure what I can say to convince you.. Your OS is dead, killed, gone..
[20:49] <Scoop7> also read to change the secuirty files so i can log in
[20:49] <phoenixz> Scoop7: also, 775 basically kills off half the security of your linux machine
[20:50] <ctjctj_> find /home/username -type f -0| xargs -0 chmod 644 (allow read write to files for you, read only to everybody else)
[20:50] <eli> Anyone knows why a plain ext4 mount gets a dr--r--r-- bits?
[20:50] <ctjctj_> find /home/username -type d -print0| xargs -0 chmod 755
[20:50] <phoenixz> Scoop7: find ~ -type f -exec chmod 0644 {} \; will at least fix YOUR personal data files.. But your OS is still dead as the average coral reef..
[20:50] <ctjctj_> correction it is -print0 on the find, not -0
[20:51] <phoenixz> ctjctj_: Out of curiosity, why not just find -exec ?
[20:51] <Random832> why not just chmod -R
[20:51] <ctjctj_> eli, permissions of a mount are normally based on the directory point.
[20:51] <ctjctj_> phoenixz, old school.  -exec fires off a process for each file.  xargs is faster.  Makes no difference on modern systems.  But oldschool boys...
[20:52] <Random832> chmod -R a=rX,u+w  dirname
[20:52] <ctjctj_> Random832, because that changes both files and directories.
[20:52] <Random832> ctjctj_, that's what X is for
[20:52] <Scoop7> ctjctj_ is your command is safe to execute ?
[20:52] <phoenixz> Scoop7: as in, there is NO solution for your OS, you reboot, and it will very likely not boot up again, and varfious services already may be broken at this point.  If, by some miracle, your OS still reboots, it will still be completely messed up and you will run into trouble later on. You need to backup & reinstall your computer
[20:52] <eli> ctjctj_: Yeah, and the mount point has the right bits, only after a mount it just ignores that and sticks to the r--r--r--
[20:52] <ctjctj_> Random832, reading man page.
[20:53] <eli> Regardless of the permissions/ownership of the mount point directory.
[20:53] <Random832> phoenixz, did you miss that he said he only did it to his home directory
[20:53] <ctjctj_> Scoop7, this is IRC you should trust no command or person.  But yes, it is safe.
[20:53] <phoenixz> Random832: he said he did it to /.
[20:53] <Scoop7> https://thepasteb.in/p/0ghJPjy9Q62f5  <-- did this earlier,  will I need to redo this after your command ?
[20:53] <Random832> ctjctj_, =X or +X will set the execute bit on directories and on files that have at least one execute bit already set.
[20:53] <Random832> er, which i just realized doesn't fix his problem
[20:53] <phoenixz> Random832: and unless / is his home directory, he's in for a .. wait, even if that were his home directory, he is in for fun!
[20:54] <akik> eli: did you try changing the permissions of the mount after you mounted it?
[20:54] <Random832> phoenixz, 16:48 <Scoop7> just did chmod 775 -R to my /home/username
[20:54] <akik> eli: the mount point and its contents vanish at the time you use mount
[20:54] <Random832> oh, i just realized that wasn't the start
[20:54] <eli> akik: Yes -- that gets me a: "chmod: changing permissions of '/home': Operation not permitted"
[20:54] <phoenixz> Random832: a bit before that: Scoop7> Hello I just did chmod -R -777 /.           <--- a really stupid stupid thing...
[20:54] <ctjctj_> Random832, ah, a conditional based on chmod.  sort of cool.  I don't see it in the man page, might be in the info page which isn't installed on this terminal.
[20:55] <ctjctj_> phoenixz, oh my goodness, not really?
[20:55] <akik> eli: did you use sudo on that command?
[20:55] <eli> Yeah, of course -- I'm mounting /home, so it's all in a root shell.
[20:55] <phoenixz> ctjctj_: He said he did
[20:55] <eli> s/mounting/trying to mount/
[20:55] <ctjctj_> Random832, and that's why I don't let my dev's use the -R.  too easy to change things you don't want to change.
[20:56] <ctjctj_> phoenixz, he is so (bad words).
[20:56] <phoenixz> ctjctj_: How do you limit developers using -R ?
[20:56] <Random832> https://superuser.com/questions/132891/how-to-reset-folder-permissions-to-their-default-in-ubuntu
[20:56] <ctjctj_> phoenixz, I have a baseball bat over here and a hospital bill showing what it costs to see the ER for a broken leg.
[20:57] <akik> eli: what is the device of your /home ?
[20:57] <Random832> Scoop7, you should probably backup your data and reinstall, the other instructions are really only good for if you *can't*, they're not likely to be faster or easier than reinstalling
[20:57] <phoenixz> ctjctj_: Ah well, that would do I suppose.. I had problems here with my devs, they'd usually take the rules as "suggestions that are whatever", I might try your approach
[20:57] <eli> akik: It's an SSD connected to an Azure VM
[20:58] <Random832> i've recovered from deleting /usr/bin before
[20:58] <ctjctj_> Scoop7, backup and reinstall is your best option.  Everything else requires the "user is not noob" flag set for the user in question.
[20:58] <akik> eli: do you see the device as normal when you use "sudo fdisk -l" ?
[20:58] <phoenixz> Scoop7: Random832: And all the other suggestions still don't repair your system. In theory it might be repairable if you manually research and apply correct permissions for all files and direcotires.. All.. what, 100.000 of them? So yeah, backup reinstall costs you a few hours but you should be good to go again
[20:59] <Random832> ctjctj_, i'm curious what you expect the devs to do instead when they need to change the permissions for all files in a directory
[20:59] <ctjctj_> phoenixz, Lots of things in our environment got fixed by not allowing any passwords on our servers.  ssh public keys to log in.  ssh public-keys for sudo permissions and limited sudo options.  amazing.
[20:59] <ctjctj_> Random832, find . -type f -print 0 | xargs -0 chmod 644 ; find . -type d -print0 | xargs -0 chmod 755
[21:00] <phoenixz> ctjctj_: Limited sudo options, that is one I still need to do here, but I'm one very busy guy who just doesn't have the time yet :(
[21:00] <akik> eli: also "tune2fs -l /dev/sdxn" might give some clues
[21:00] <eli> akik: Yeah, looks ok, I think
[21:00] <eli> I'll try that.
[21:00] <phoenixz> And now this busy guy is stuck on installing ubuntu server, I can't believe it
[21:01] <ctjctj_> phoenixz, we had a developer (ex) who set bash history to zero lines.  Then would log in, sudo to root, set the password for root, then log in as root for everything.  Which is why he is an ex employee.
[21:01] <akik> eli: you might to check that device on azure side whether you see a problem there
[21:01] <\9> what
[21:01] <Scoop7> I will finish back-upping , then I will finish my laravel app update(because of the update and image permission debugging i got into this mess....) and then I will reinstall
[21:02] <ctjctj_> Scoop7, good luck to you.
[21:02] <eli> I think that the device itself is fine -- access as root doesn't look problematic, it's just the damn root permission that insists on being a root:root r--r--r--
[21:02] <phoenixz> ctjctj_: that actually sounds as close to sabotage as I can imagine..
[21:02] <Random832> eli, and you can't chmod?
[21:02] <eli> Random832: No, I keep getting a: "chmod: changing permissions of '/home': Operation not permitted"
[21:03] <Scoop7> ctjctj_ : thanks
[21:03] <ctjctj_> phoenixz, his exit strategy included logging into AWS and deleting all S3 buckets before terminating the account.  Which is when the police were called.  Yes, sabotage.
[21:03] <eli> After mount; before mount everything's fine, but then it's ignored when mounted
[21:03] <ctjctj_> eli, can you change the permissions after mounted?
[21:03] <eli> ctjctj_: No -- that's what gets the above error message
[21:04] <eli> It's the first time I'm running into this kind of a weird mount problem.
[21:04] <Random832> eli, mount options? maybe it's mounted readonly? look at dmesg?
[21:04] <phoenixz> ctjctj_: I know its a dick move, but there is a reason why for sys admins and developers and such you always "call them for a meeting" and while they're being fired, some trustworthy person disconnects his computer, and locks all his accounts..
[21:05] <eli> Random832: Not ro, and I tried a few options, didn't make any difference
[21:05] <ctjctj_> phoenixz, yeah.  Management didn't believe me when I told them to do it that way.  In addition he should never have had AWS console access....  but it was easier for management to just give him the keys to the kingdom.
[21:05] <phoenixz> ctjctj_: Hell, even check to be sure there are no "funny" cron jobs around
[21:06] <phoenixz> ctjctj_: don't we all love management!
[21:06] <ctjctj_> phoenixz, I once had the misfortune of having that happen to me.  I called my replacement when I got home to tell him a half dozen things he needed to do to finish the lock out.  There was no way I wanted any hint of access to their systems left behind.
[21:07] <ctjctj_> Mind you, the client called me an hour after I was escorted off site to offer me a job.
[21:07] <phoenixz> ctjctj_:  I think we've all been there one time or another
[21:08] <ctjctj_> One of the things I teach my management people and sys admins is "plan for the unplaned bus strike."  I.e. what happen if X gets hit by a bus on the way to work tomorrow?  Can we still do everything we need to do?
[21:08] <akik> eli: do you have data on that /home ssd?
[21:08] <donofrio> ok where do I add users to my install??
[21:09] <eli> akik: Yeah, but I can copy that elsewhere -- I'm trying now to make a new ext4 and see if that works better...
[21:09] <akik> eli: i saw a bug report of an older kernel, storsvc and ext4
[21:09] <akik> eli: https://stackoverflow.com/a/27830534
[21:11] <eli> akik: Looked promising -- but it's talking about a solution in 3.9, and I'm on 4.4.0
[21:11] <phoenixz> ctjctj_: Talking about "under the bus"...  I've worked in (what I think is still) the largest data center in latin america.. Worked there when it was just opening up, first customers in.. In the first week we had.. 8 tech guys, in total, give or take I was senior linux admin, together with the only two windows admins, together with the head of NOC, only SUN os engineer and the manager.. First week, we're all in one car, and by an inch we almost
[21:11] <phoenixz> all got splatered by a huge tracktor trailer combo..  That would have been fun
[21:11] <donofrio> I thought using adduser on cmdline would cause something to be missed?  (granted that was redhat logic)
[21:11] <akik> donofrio: use useradd
[21:12] <ctjctj_> phoenixz, yeah, that would have slowed deployment a little bit.
[21:12] <phoenixz> ctjctj_: that would have been a dead stop, pun intended....
[21:12] <akik> donofrio: sudo useradd -s /bin/bash -m username && sudo passwd username
[21:13] <donofrio> yah do we have a gui for that somewhere
[21:14] <eli> akik: Looks like the new fs I created works fine... *sigh*
[21:14] <akik> eli: maybe it could have used a fsck?
[21:14] <eli> Possibly...
[21:15] <Scoop7> not really related probably, but ... my images seem to be transparent after I  upload them to my server. Could this be a permitions issue ?
[21:15] <ctjctj_> eli, if you do an fsck don't forget the  force option (-f)
[21:15] <phoenixz> Is it possible at all to install ubuntu server on RAID0 with encrypted LVM?
[21:15] <eli> Yeah, as soon as it's done transferring the content to the new disk...
[21:15] <donofrio> akik, do we have a gui for sudo useradd -s /bin/bash -m username && sudo passwd username
[21:16] <ctjctj_> phoenixz, depends on where you want the encryption done.
[21:17] <ctjctj_> phoenixz, in general you need to have clear text for at least part of the boot (/boot) and at that point it can request a pass phrase to move on.  Look into LUKS (IIRC)
[21:17] <akik> donofrio: sorry i don't know
[21:19] <phoenixz> ctjctj_: yeah, thats how I have it setup.. I've set aside 512MB on both drives (to keep them exactly equal), on one drive will be the EFI boot partition, then from there it should be able to go the RAID0 ELVM, or so I thought...
[21:19] <ctjctj_> so you are using encryption at the block level?
[21:19] <tcpdump> Hey everyone. I have a 16.04 LTS server install that was 20 GB.  Its on VMWare ESXi. I've added 30 GB to the server, but wondered how I expand the disk in Ubuntu?
[21:20] <tcpdump> I did non-encrypted LVM at install.
[21:20] <ctjctj_> tcpdump, resize2fs is the magic command
[21:20]  * tcpdump googles
[21:21] <akik> tcpdump: extend the volume group, extend the lv, resize the fs
[21:22] <tcpdump> Anyobe have a good tutorial on it?
[21:22] <kenrin> tutorial for lvresize ?
[21:23] <ctjctj_> tcpdump, to expand on akik: you have increased the size of the black store backing the lvm.  Now you have to tell lvm pv has changed.  then you have to resize the vg and finally resize the lv.  Once that is done you can resize the filesystem.
[21:23] <tcpdump> Would it be easier to add a new disk?
[21:23] <tcpdump> I need a place to dump large files
[21:23] <kenrin> er that would be lvextend --size blah -r /dev/mapper/wahtever for both the vg and lv
[21:23] <tcpdump> via sftp
[21:24] <ctjctj_> kenrin, I don't remember the commands.  That's what google is for.
[21:37] <chr0mag_> Hi all, I've created a bootable USB using SYSLINUX & MEMDISK and am trying to set it up to launch various ISOs.
[21:39] <chr0mag_> The SYSLINUX part works, the USB boots and my menu is displayed.  When I choose the Ubuntu ISO option from the menu it loads fine but...
[21:39] <chr0mag_> when I try to run the live media it can't find the live filesystem.
[21:39] <chr0mag_> I see a number of these errors: "/init: line 7: can't open /dev/sr0: No medium found"
[21:40] <chr0mag_> followed by "/init: line 7: can't open /dev/sr0: No medium found"
[21:40] <chr0mag_> I've tried to pass the iso-scan/filename= parameter, but am not sure this works w/MEMDISK and am wondering if anyone else has done this ?
[21:41] <kenrin> do you have a bootloader ?
[21:42] <kenrin> http://www.syslinux.org/wiki/index.php?title=MEMDISK#ISO_images
[21:47] <chr0mag_> yeah, I've got that working
[21:47] <chr0mag_> I can load the ISO fine, but when I actually try to run the live media (after MEMDISK has loaded the ISO into memory) it can no longer find the live filesystem
[21:48] <phoenixz> If I want to install ubunto server on a computer that has BIOS with UEFI and safeboot and all, is it recommendable to use UEFI, and secure boot, or disable them both and go for legacy modes?
[21:48] <phoenixz> I"m going nuts here with by now like 10 install attempts all failing with grub argh
[21:48] <kenrin> I don't think you understand that it isn't working if you are getting ISO errors
[21:49] <chr0mag_> http://www.syslinux.org/wiki/index.php?title=MEMDISK#Linux <-- this link claims I should be able to pass iso-scan/filename=<path-to-iso> on the APPEND line of my SYSLINUX entry...but it doesn't work
[21:49] <akik> phoenixz: in your computer's bios, is there a place where you can add a efi file to be booted?
[21:50] <akik> phoenixz: in secure boot settings
[21:50] <chr0mag_> kenrin: there are 2 steps to this 1) a SYSLINUX entry that launches the ISO -- this works, I see the Ubuntu boot menu, the same one you'd see if you'd just burned the ISO to a CD
[21:50] <chr0mag_> but the second step -- the one I can't get working -- is actually running the live media
[21:50] <chr0mag_> the link it pasted above talks about workarounds for this issue
[21:50] <chr0mag_> it=I
[21:50] <phoenixz> akik: Don't think so.. I'm in bios right now checking the options.. Will it be easier if I just disable all UEFI and secureboot? If that were to work, I'm all for it..
[21:51] <phoenixz> akik: And even so, what EFI file could I specify, if (as far as I can see) its not even being installed?
[21:51] <akik> phoenixz: without knowing the details it could be easier. the efi file would be EFI\ubuntu\grubx64.efi
[21:51] <phoenixz> akik: nah, as far as I cantell, I cannot specify the file
[21:51] <chr0mag_> in fact, the "Check Disk Integrity" option does work, presumably because it doesn't go looking for additional files on the live media
[21:52] <phoenixz> akik: Can't I simply disable all that stuff and just use legacy? If that would work, I would be so happy, I just need this computer installed is all... :(
[21:52] <akik> phoenixz: yes probably that will work
[21:52] <chr0mag_> ...and yes, the ISO itself isn't corrupted or anything as I've checked the SHASUMs and even run the media integrity check successfully as mentioned...
[21:52] <akik> phoenixz: maybe even boot in non-uefi mode and write grub into the mbr of the hard disk
[21:53] <phoenixz> Yeah, trying install without all that now..
[21:56] <kenrin> I think you are missing some lines from the syslinux/text.cfg
[21:57] <chr0mag_> such as?
[21:57] <chr0mag_> do you have a reference?
[21:58] <chr0mag_> I'm definitely missing something...
[21:58] <kenrin> Well the error you gave might think it is a virtual floppy.  floppy.allowed_drive_mask=0
[21:59] <chr0mag_> You mean this error: "/init: line 7: can't open /dev/sr0: No medium found" ?
[21:59] <kenrin> ya
[22:00] <phoenixz> ubuntu-server text mode install.. I'm on the manual partition layout, I make a /boot partiiton, but for the life of me, I cannot get the boot flag set. Anybody who might know why this is? bug?
[22:00] <akik> isn't sr0 usually an optical media?
[22:00] <Sleaker> anyone know how to investigate why certain packages are held back during a dist-upgrade ?
[22:00] <chr0mag_> /dev/sr0 is the CD/DVD drive, I'm on a laptop w/no floppy drive
[22:00] <DaFloorIsBAKLAVA> I used to have a boyfriend named Ubuntu
[22:00] <Scoop7> what should the "root" folder permissions should be ?
[22:00] <DaFloorIsBAKLAVA> he would
[22:00] <DaFloorIsBAKLAVA> play
[22:00] <DaFloorIsBAKLAVA> the
[22:00] <DaFloorIsBAKLAVA> bongos on
[22:00] <DaFloorIsBAKLAVA> my ass
[22:00] <kenrin> Don't know,  but if you google "casper error floppy" there is a million hits for sr0
[22:00] <DaFloorIsBAKLAVA> "play the bongos"*
[22:00] <Sleaker> trying to figure out what part of a dependency chain is causing custom packages to not upgrade with dist-upgrade
[22:01] <akik> Scoop7: 700
[22:02] <chr0mag_> yeah, I have looked at many of those, many are quite old and seem to be related to having the USB stick a 3.0 slot (which I dont' even have on my old-ish machine)
[22:02] <kenrin> Did you test anything out ?
[22:03] <chr0mag_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/500822 <-- most of the web search hits relate to this bug
[22:04] <chr0mag_> but that bug is not my issue, as eventually the people reporting that bug do find the install media -- my setup never finds it
[22:04] <chr0mag_> what sort of tests did you have in mind? I've tried quite a few things.
[22:04] <kenrin> Did you disable the virtual floppy ? or check the live-media-path like it says ?
[22:06] <kenrin> You can't just say that isn't my issue if you have not attempted any fixes
[22:10] <dr_horrible> Has anyone setup dual HDMI output via thunderbolt 3 port on Ubuntu?
[22:11] <supercop> hi, i have a problem, want to formatting my ssd but there is a wave security but dont change anything
[22:12] <supercop> testdisk say ea error
[22:13] <kenrin> I'd say you should consult wave security for a fix
[22:14] <kenrin> Trying to force a dban or format could render the disk unusable
[22:14] <kenrin> Which is kind of the purpose of such security systems
[22:20] <supercop> now trying dban
[23:33] <dr_horrible> Does anyone know the irssi client command to change the hilight color?
[23:38] <YankDownUnder> dr_horrible, #irssi
[23:38] <dr_horrible> Thanks YankDownUnder.
[23:45] <ssdfailure> i think my ssd failed. I logged into a live usb to type this... What should I d
[23:45] <ssdfailure> o?
[23:47] <ikonia> get a new ssd
[23:47] <Bashing-om> ssdfailure: Think failed on what kind of way ? software wise ? Hard ware wise ?