[00:15] <thufa> Hi guyz
[00:16] <thufa> /whois thufa
[00:17] <thufa> Oh... I'm thufa... nice
[00:46] <InternetExplorer> guys, help me please: https://pastebin.com/hnWrhdk4
[00:48] <genii> InternetExplorer: Get the people in the ##bash channel to help you figure your homework out. This channel is for Ubuntu support questions, not programming questions
[00:49] <InternetExplorer> its not homeword
[00:49] <genii> It's also not an Ubuntu support question
[00:50] <InternetExplorer> kk
[01:03] <oerheks> yay, Canonical Kernel Livepatch Service now available for Ubuntu 14.04
[01:51] <catbehemoth> Hi guys, I need a little guidance, I have an ubuntu server running qemu vms and docker, on each reset iptables reverts FORWARD chain to DROP and for the life of me I can't find a way to make it stick at ACCEPT. can someone help me trouble shoot it?
[01:56] <bazhang> catbehemoth, try #netfilter
[01:57] <rdh> catbehemoth, is your iptables config setup to drop?
[01:58] <rdh> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[01:58] <catbehemoth> rdh: now thats the thing it is set to ACCEPT but at reboot it goes to DROP
[01:59] <catbehemoth> I know how iptables works it's just frustrating that something changes it and I cant figure out what
[01:59] <rdh> catbehemoth, after you make the rules, you'll want to save: iptables-save
[01:59] <catbehemoth> rdh always did
[02:00] <catbehemoth> I eliminated all the culprits except docker and virsh, I think one of those does it but I dont know how to check. My question should be is there a way to log what or who does changes to iptable rules?
[02:07] <rdh> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-a-firewall-using-iptables-on-ubuntu-14-04
[02:07] <rdh> catbehemoth, "By default, the rules that you add to iptables are ephemeral. This means that when you restart your server, your iptables rules will be gone."
[02:08] <rdh> interesting
[02:08] <rdh> catbehemoth, look down about halfway of that page, and you should see instructions for saving your iptables configuration.
[02:11] <catbehemoth> rdh: thanks but it applies to 14.04 I'm on 16.04 ... I just tried and the package exists ... Ill try.
[02:11] <rdh> yea see if that works for you.
[02:12] <catbehemoth> rdh: thing is iptables-save has :FORWARD ACCEPT [8461:2662464] so I presumed that on restart that rule remains the same unless something changes it
[02:12] <belea> hey guys do you know can i use hdd raw copy to put the ubuntu iso on a drive?
[02:12] <belea> or do i have to go through installation?
[02:14] <rdh> catbehemoth, says that this is a "feature" so that users can regain access after a server restart if a rule locks them out.
[02:16] <catbehemoth> brb trying to see if persistent will work
[02:37] <Jordan_U> belea: First, dd is nicknamed Disk Destroyer for a reason. A simple typo could destroy the wrong disk (and using it correctly will destroy any existing data on your target USB drive).
[02:40] <Jordan_U> belea: First, you need to find the device name corresponding to your USB drive. "lsblk" and "blkid" will both list information about the drives you have connected and their contents which can help you determine which of sda, sdb, sdc etc is your USB drive. Note that we want to find the drive, like "/dev/sda" and *not* a partition on that drive like "/dev/sda1".
[02:42] <Jordan_U> belea: If "lsblk" listed a mountpoint for any of the partitions on your USB drive then be sure to run "sudo umount /dev/sdXY" where sdXY will be like "sdb1". Again, that is for unmounting, it is *not* the device you'll pass to dd and it is important that you unmount all partitions on the drive before passing it to dd.
[02:45] <Jordan_U> belea: Once you have done that, run "sudo dd if=/path/to/file.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M status=progress" Where "sdX" is the device you found for your USB drive (again, not a partition). This will give you a running progress of the dd.
[02:49] <catbehemoth> rdh: I made it work, I finally figured out that it was docker that was changing forward policy to drop, so I created a new systemd unit that has [Unit] After=docker.service and simply has ExecStart=/sbin/iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT
[02:50] <catbehemoth> rdh: that way it always changer forward policy to accept after docker finishes starting up
[02:51] <Ojitos> i have a cuestion
[02:51] <Ojitos> some one knows how can i use a znc in ubuntu
[02:51] <rdh> catbehemoth, lol ok, im looking at a site with a similar solution
[02:52] <Ojitos> im using a irc client called smuxi and i want to use a znc
[02:52] <catbehemoth> Ojitos: you can install znc on ubnutu or run it inside a docker container (thats what Im doing)
[02:52] <kenrin> Well you install it,  configure it,  then start it
[02:53] <catbehemoth> Ojitos: simply follow http://wiki.znc.in/Installation
[02:54] <catbehemoth> Ojitos: or if you prefer docker https://www.linuxserver.io/ container is what I used in the past
[03:12] <Ojitos> catbehemoth: which of those do u recommend?
[03:16] <roothorick> libudev0 isn't available on 16.04 anymore?
[03:18] <n0wje> I was wondering if anyone else notice 16.04 slowing down after time. boot time till desktop?
[03:20] <Ojitos> n0wje: me
[03:20] <Ojitos> maybe is time to install 17.04
[03:20] <n0wje> ah, I thought it was just me!
[03:20] <n0wje> I will check it out.
[03:23] <catbehemoth> Ojitos: depends I would use docker or some other container to avoid polluting my main system
[03:24] <catbehemoth> Ojitos: I run everything inside containers but thats just me
[03:24] <Ojitos> but how can i do that
[03:24] <Ojitos> can u help me out
[03:24] <catbehemoth> follow http://wiki.znc.in/Installation it has instructions on how to install it as docker container
[03:26] <hehehe> hey hey
[03:26] <catbehemoth> or https://hub.docker.com/r/linuxserver/znc/ thats the one I tend to use because it exposes the config to the outside and chowns everything to a specified GID and UID
[03:26] <hehehe> php 7.0 zlib is not in repository?
[03:26] <hehehe> aptitude saying not foun
[03:26] <hehehe> found
[03:29] <catbehemoth> hehehe: apt-get install php7.0-zip ?
[03:29] <hehehe> zip is there
[03:29] <hehehe> zlib and zip nearly same?
[03:30] <catbehemoth> always only installed zip, zlib is the library I think ... zip is the mod
[03:30] <hehehe> cool
[03:30] <Bashing-om> !info libudev1 xenial | roothorick
[03:30] <hehehe> ty
[03:36] <JustFixMyWifi> So, lubuntu will find my home wifi but keeps asking me for the password and never connects. How do I fix it?
[03:45] <roothorick> Bashing-om: that doesn't contain libudev.so.0
[03:47] <Bashing-om> roothorick: Looks to me that xenial has a higher version . Has moved on up from libudev0 .
[03:48] <roothorick> Bashing-om: they're ABI incompatible far as I can tell.
[03:48] <kenrin> JustFixMyWifi: Can you open the network settings and manually input the password?
[03:50] <JustFixMyWifi> Yes.
[03:50] <JustFixMyWifi> It will ask for my password again after that.
[03:55] <Bashing-om> roothorick: Fo not know what I can say .. as evem trusty has the libudev1 version : https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=libudev&mode=filename&suite=trusty&arch=anyhttps://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=libudev&mode=filename&suite=trusty&arch=any .
[04:12] <roothorick> why don't the various GCC packages integrate with update-alternatives AT ALL?
[04:12] <JustFixMyWifi> I also need to permanently disable the suspend/lock screen/etc... thing related to the laptop tray.
[04:12] <roothorick> okay, I'll do this manually, but what's stopping an update from clobbering the symlinks?
[04:12] <JustFixMyWifi> *laptop screen position
[04:15] <Ben64> roothorick: what
[04:21] <roothorick> Ben64: say you have gcc-4.9 and gcc-5 installed. There's no "gcc" selection in update-alternatives, and the only option for "cc" is "gcc"
[04:31] <caralhudo> hi
[04:40] <s_spiff> is there a way to test my ssh key setup before disabling password authentication on the server?
[04:42] <JustFixMyWifi> When I remove the password from the network it still cant connect through wifi, cable is working
[05:15] <raga_> Hi I am facing a problem on booting ubuntu. I have to manually set up lightdm by going to tty and entering `sudo start lightdm` or `sudo start gdm3`.Please help
[05:23] <JustFixMyWifi> :'(
[05:25] <hateball> raga_: is this a standard install?
[05:25] <raga_> Yup
[05:26] <raga_> hateball, Yes
[05:26] <hateball> raga_: Is there anything in /var/log ? I imagine lightdm logs there (I dont use it)
[05:27] <hateball> raga_: do you get dropped to a text prompt at once, or is it like stuck on a black screen or so?
[05:27] <raga_> hateball, It is stuck at black screen, I have to press ctrl+alt+f1 to go to tty and then enter either 'sudo start lightdm' or 'sudo start gdm3' there
[05:28] <hateball> raga_: what GPU/driver are you using?
[05:28] <raga_> hateball, nvidia
[05:29] <hateball> raga_: could you try removing "quiet splash" from your bootline in grub, see if that changes anything?
[05:29] <raga_> hateball, Sorry I am a newbie, could you tell me how to do that?
[05:30] <hateball> raga_: when you boot your machine, hold down left shift to get the grub menu. then press 'e' to edit your desired entry, and arrowkey down to the line that contains "quiet splash" and just backspace that away. F10 to continue boot
[05:31] <raga_> hateball, okay please wait
[05:31] <hateball> raga_: that will disable any sort of gui splash during bootup, I've had issues with the handover to X when using that (in the past)
[05:31] <hateball> so it's simple enough to try
[05:31] <raga_> hateball, I have a dual boot machine, so grub menu comes by default
[05:31] <hateball> easy enough then
[05:32] <raga_> hateball, okay am rebooting, please wait
[05:33] <raga> hateball, I don't see any command as quite splash
[05:34] <hateball> raga: you should have an entry that says "Ubuntu" or so, when you edit that you should get 3-4 lines you can edit
[05:34] <raga> hateball, Okay so I should press e on "ubuntu"?
[05:35] <hateball> raga: yea
[05:35] <hateball> then you should see a line containing vmlinuz, at the end of that would be quiet splash
[05:35] <raga> hateball, yeah
[05:36] <raga> hateball, Should I delete the whole line?
[05:36] <hateball> raga: no just those 2 words
[05:36] <hateball> otherwise it wont boot at all :p
[05:36] <raga> hateball, delted quite splash
[05:36] <raga> hateball, how to save my changes?
[05:37] <hateball> then press F10 to continue boot, now you should see only text when booting
[05:37] <hateball> raga: this is a runtime edit, so it will only affect this boot
[05:37] <raga> hateball, It says booting a command list
[05:38] <hateball> raga: it should scroll by for a while, then hand you over to the login screen
[05:38] <hateball> if things work as expected, that is
[05:38] <raga> hateball, Nope Just "booting a command list" and nothing else
[05:38] <raga> hateball, should I open tty?
[05:39] <hateball> raga: give it a try
[05:39] <raga> hateball, opened
[05:39] <raga> hateball, Now what. I am in the tty?
[05:40] <hateball> interesting, never seen that before. googling only brings up old stuff...
[05:40] <hateball> raga: oh start lightdm as you normally do, we'll check some other stuff then
[05:40] <hateball> raga: is this 16.04 or 17.04?
[05:40] <raga> hateball, 16
[05:41] <hateball> raga: and you're using nvidia proprietary or nouveau?
[05:41] <raga> hateball, nvidia proprietary
[05:43] <hateball> raga: and fully updated etc, running 4.4 kernel?
[05:43] <raga> hateball, how do i check the kernel version?
[05:43] <hateball> raga: uname -a
[05:44] <hateball> well that gives more info than version, but
[05:44] <raga> hateball, yes 4.4.0-79-generic
[05:44] <hateball> hmmmmmm
[05:46] <hateball> raga: the only hits I get when googling are UEFI related... but those stop booting at all it seems, and that's not the case for you
[05:47] <raga_> Yes
[05:47] <hateball> I mean the OS boots, just the login manager doesnt start
[05:47] <raga_> Yes
[05:47] <hateball> raga: it's a long shot, but you could try a newer nvidia driver from PPA
[05:47] <raga_> hateball, Can't I just uninstall one out of lightdm and gdm3 and force the system to work with one
[05:47] <hateball> see if that is the culprit
[05:48] <hateball> raga: oh well only one is configured at the time
[05:48] <hateball> raga: you can run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm" to configure it as login manager again, if something seems broken
[05:48] <raga_> hateball, Currently I am using version 375 from nvida-375
[05:49] <hateball> that should be new enough
[05:49] <raga_> hateball, SHould I use version 378 from nvida-378?(oepn source)
[05:50] <raga_>  hateball, I ran sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm many times before
[05:50] <hateball> umm... open source would be nouveau, and you probably dont want to use that other than for ideological reasons
[05:50] <raga_> It didn't seem to do much
[05:50] <hateball> raga: nvidia-378 should be proprietary driver
[05:50] <hateball> raga: if you're using 375 now, try switching to 378
[05:51] <raga_> hateball, in the additional drivers app, it is written that version 378 from nvidia-378 is open source
[05:51] <hateball> that is very strange
[05:51] <hateball> raga_: I dont run Unity myself, could you screenshot the GUI and upload to imgur or something?
[05:51] <raga_> Please wait
[05:52] <hateball> raga_: at any rate you can "sudo apt install nvidia-378" and that is the same as using the GUI
[05:52] <raga_> hateball, http://imgur.com/a/3B9Hn
[05:52] <hateball> raga_: has to be a GUI bug
[05:53] <hateball> raga_: are you using the nvidia PPA?
[05:53] <raga_> hateball, what to do?
[05:53] <raga_> hateball , How do I check?
[05:53] <hateball> raga_: well, you'd have to have added it manually, it doesnt come by default
[05:54] <hateball> raga_: because in 16.04, nvidia-375 is the highest available, 378 and 381 are in the ppa tho
[05:54] <raga_> hateball, Yes yesterday I tried something, which had ppa in it written
[05:54] <hateball> raga_: in that gui, on "other software" will be a line for the ppa
[05:54] <raga_> hateball, Which gui?
[05:54] <hateball> raga_: I suggest you try using 381, it's the latest stable driver. since you already have the ppa added and enabled
[05:55] <hateball> raga_: the software and updates
[05:55] <raga_> hateball, okay,please wait
[05:55] <raga_> hateball, there is also 381 there
[05:56] <hateball> raga_: Yes like I said, try that
[05:56] <raga_> hateball, 378 or 281?
[05:56] <raga_> I mean 381
[05:56] <hateball> raga_: 381
[05:56] <raga_> please wait
[05:56] <hateball> 375 is LTS driver, 381 latest stable... and 378 is somewhere in between :p
[05:58] <raga> hateball, I remember trying to download the latest nvidia driver from their website for linux. But I faced some issues. So I followed https://askubuntu.com/questions/760934/graphics-issues-after-while-installing-ubuntu-16-04-16-10-with-nvidia-graphics
[05:58] <hateball> raga_: Yes, using PPA is preferable, even if nvidias own packages should work these days
[05:58] <raga> hateball, Please wait it is applying the changes
[05:59] <hateball> raga: but when using PPA and a new version releases you will need to switch manually like now
[05:59] <raga> hateball, What is the meaning of "ppa"?
[06:00] <hateball> !ppa | raga
[06:00] <raga> So is 381 ppa?
[06:01] <raga> I mean nvida-381?
[06:01] <hateball> raga: yes
[06:01] <hateball> raga: as is 378
[06:01] <raga> hateball, Then shouldn't I be staying with nvidia-375?
[06:01] <hateball> raga: thats why it says open source in the gui, because the gui assumes you only use default ubuntu packages
[06:02] <hateball> raga: I always use PPA drivers, it's fine
[06:02] <raga> Okay
[06:02] <hateball> raga: and you're having an issue that might be solved, so no harm in trying
[06:02] <hateball> easy enough to rollback
[06:03] <raga> hateball, Done!. Should I reboot now?
[06:04] <raga> hateball, Are you there?
[06:05] <hateball> raga: yes
[06:05] <hateball> raga: to both
[06:05] <raga> hateball, I rebooted. its the same
[06:06] <hateball> :/
[06:06] <raga> hateball, I don't know why but since the issue came, the grub menu is also black in color and when I reboot, I get weird messages on a black screen before it reboots
[06:07] <glitchd> raga, can you read what the msg says?
[06:07] <raga> Let me reboot I will take a photo then
[06:07] <hateball> raga: those messages should be logged
[06:08] <hateball> raga: journalctl -b
[06:08] <glitchd> ^^
[06:08] <raga> No journal files were found
[06:08] <glitchd> anyone have any pcmanfm knowledge in here?
[06:08] <raga> hateball, Should I reboot and take a photo?
[06:09] <hateball> raga: well it is most strange there are no logs
[06:09] <hateball> raga: but sure, if you can
[06:09] <raga> Ok please wait
[06:09] <glitchd> raga, might be easier to take a video of the screen, then pause on the error msg, then screenshot it. unless it doesnt disappear very quickly.
[06:09] <raga> Yes thats what I will do
[06:09] <hateball> raga: just for kicks, you could try using this kernel parameter instead of "quiet splash" "nvidia-drm.modeset=1"
[06:10] <raga> after pressing "e" in Ubuntu?
[06:10] <hateball> raga: yea
[06:10] <raga> Please wait
[06:11] <hateball> raga: no "" tho, in case that was unclear
[06:11] <hateball> just backspace away quiet splash and add nvidia-drm.modeset=1 instead
[06:13] <raga> hateball, replace quite splash with nvid.... didn't help
[06:14] <hateball> raga: didnt think it would, but worth a try
[06:14] <hateball> running out of ideas then, and I am not really familiar with uefi/dualboots
[06:14] <raga> hateball, let me upload the log
[06:17] <raga_> hateball, q3SyE4!sY#93
[06:18] <raga_> hateball, https://imgur.com/gallery/ZP0AI
[06:19] <hateball> raga: is that on shutdown or upstart?
[06:19] <raga> hateball, shutdown
[06:20] <hateball> seems to be some bugs about that
[06:20] <raga> Is fresh install the only option remaining?
[06:20] <hateball> raga: but that's a different thing tho, wasnt it the boot that troubled you?
[06:21] <raga> hateball, Yes it was the boot, I thought maybe this was useful
[06:23] <raga> hateball, Any luck?
[06:23] <hateball> raga: regarding that bug, some comments suggest using this boot parameter helps fix it: acpi=force
[06:24] <raga> hateball, Where do I enter the command?
[06:24] <hateball> raga: so... you could try that. simply replace (or append to) quiet splash in grub
[06:25] <raga> hateball, But will that solve lightdm problem
[06:26] <raga> hateball, Will reinstalling gnome-desktop help?
[06:27] <hateball> raga: unlikely to solve that, but who knows. reinstalling gnome-desktop wont really do anything, it's lightdm that doesnt start, even tho it is configured properly
[06:27] <hateball> so to me it is bios/kernel/gpu related
[06:27] <raga> Should I fresh install ubuntu?
[06:28] <hateball> raga: can you upload your /var/log/dmesg to nopaste or something? after you've done a successful boot
[06:28] <hateball> raga: well it isnt windows, so reinstalling wont (for the most part) magically fix things :p
[06:28] <raga> hateball, Should I first reboot
[06:28] <b4r> hi, sorry to bother with a simple question: how do I create and help become a maintainer of .deb pckages for ubuntu?
[06:29] <hateball> raga: yes do a reboot and try acpi=force
[06:29] <hateball> !dev
[06:29] <raga> append at the end of "quiet splash"?
[06:29] <hateball> b4r:                                                   ^
[06:29] <b4r> yes ty
[06:29] <hateball> raga: yes append or replace
[06:29] <raga> ok please wait
[06:30] <Haris> hello all
[06:32] <Haris> on 14.04, I setup ntp to look at 0.asia.pool.ntp.org and 1.asia.pool.ntp.org. Yet clock still shifted. when I manually ran ntpdate just now, it did a -85.xxxxxx second. What does this mean ? the clock is running too fast ?
[06:32] <raga> hateball, What is the command for the logs?
[06:32] <b4r> `dmesg`
[06:32] <b4r> right?
[06:33] <raga> Just enter dmesg in the terminal?
[06:33] <b4r> I mean that's one way, sure
[06:33] <raga> done. It worked
[06:33] <b4r> \o/ success
[06:35] <raga_> hateball, https://pastebin.com/nP9TQ4MB
[06:38] <raga_> hateball, are you there?
[06:41] <hateball> raga_: on and off, I am at work after all :p
[06:41] <raga_> Oh
[06:41] <raga_> I uploaded the logs
[06:42] <hateball> raga_: I am looking
[06:42] <raga_> Thanks
[06:42] <hateball> raga_: I see the BIOS is from 2014, have you checked for an update? If it is indeed acpi related, it could be fixed in a newer version
[06:43] <raga_> How do I do that?
[06:43] <hateball> raga_: Go on HPs website and search for your model in the support section
[06:44] <hateball> raga_: depending on model etc it may be a windows only flasher, but since you have dualboot that should be easy enough. some models allow flashing from a thumbdrive directly in bios itself
[06:46] <raga_> hateball, I see a bios update there
[06:47] <hateball> raga_: doesnt hurt to try
[06:47] <raga_> hateball, I would have to boot into windows ..Please wait
[06:47] <hateball> raga_: I go afk for some hours in about 10 min, so
[06:48] <raga> ohk
[06:48] <hateball> raga_: pretty much exhausted all my ideas anyhow :p
[06:48] <raga> Won't installing Ubuntu again help?
[06:48] <hateball> Why would it? It's the same packages
[06:49] <raga> Won't installing Ubuntu again help?
[06:49] <hateball> raga_: Did things work properly during first install?
[06:49] <raga> Yes. The issue just popped up since the last 3 days
[06:49] <raga> Yes. The issue just popped up since the last 3 days
[06:49] <raga> I have been using ubuntu for over a year now
[06:49] <raga> It was working fine before
[06:49] <hateball> raga_: Any idea if you were using nouveau up until then, and the problem happened because you switched to nvidia?
[06:50] <raga> I tried to update nvidia this week. Thats when the problem started
[06:50] <hateball> and if you didnt switch to nvidia the past days, then it sounds like a kernel update broke it
[06:50] <raga> I would try to switch to nouveau
[06:50] <hateball> raga_: afaik nvidia and uefi is tricky territory, but I dont use it myself... you can test easy enough by choosing nouveau again
[06:51] <raga> ok
[06:51] <raga> thanks for you help
[06:51] <hateball> still, updating BIOS is probably a good idea
[06:51] <raga> Doing that
[07:13] <sebsebseb> hi
[07:19] <azizLIGHT> im running ddrescue on /dev/sr0 and its filling my rootfs / up with log file on /var/log/kern.log with buffer i/o messages and also my /var/log/syslog with cd-rom related messages. WHAT DO I DO
[07:19] <azizLIGHT> im running out of space
[07:19] <azizLIGHT> kern.log is 900mb now and syslog 800 mb
[07:21] <sebsebseb> azizLIGHT: ddrescue? trying to recover data?
[07:21] <azizLIGHT> yes, its a scratched cd
[07:21] <sebsebseb> oh right
[07:21] <sebsebseb> azizLIGHT: ok
[07:22] <azizLIGHT> is there a way to trim the kern.log and syslog files of the buffer i/o messages and cd-rom related messages. i dont need this stuff logged at all
[07:22] <sebsebseb> azizLIGHT: I guess will only be able to recover some data if anything, and it has to put log files somewhere so and errors
[07:23] <azizLIGHT> yea but i dont need 800 mb of buffer io messages
[07:23] <azizLIGHT> in the log
[07:23] <azizLIGHT> thats plain text .... 800 mb
[07:23] <Scoop7> my volume controller that I coded: https://i.redd.it/012cukejqs1z.png  <- what do you guys think ?
[07:23] <azizLIGHT> plain uselss
[07:23] <sebsebseb> azizLIGHT: not sure how but you can probably turn the logging off and delete the old logs yourself
[07:23] <Scoop7> what about this one azizLIGHT: https://imgur.com/QWLzbKA ?
[07:24] <azizLIGHT> Scoop7: i wasnt talking to you .sorry
[07:24] <sebsebseb> Scoop7: for what?
[07:24] <azizLIGHT> Scoop7: that second one is really unusual. and hard to control and set volume
[07:24] <azizLIGHT> Scoop7: why isnt it vertical
[07:24] <azizLIGHT> why does it render vertical, but control horizontally
[07:24] <Scoop7> nah that's ok yesterday I had a terrible day after "chmod 777 -R /."
[07:25] <azizLIGHT> it should render in the same direction as the control
[07:25] <azizLIGHT> so if you render it horizontally, be controlling it horizontally as well
[07:25] <azizLIGHT> and the same goes for vertical
[07:25] <Scoop7> ok maybe https://i.redd.it/uu79jhp0t12z.gif is more user friendly ?
[07:26] <azizLIGHT> heh
[07:26] <Scoop7> or : https://i.redd.it/wma1461jc62z.png
[07:26] <Scoop7> this sounds - something a windows would do to you :D
[07:26] <sebsebseb> azizLIGHT: that must be important data on cd
[07:27] <sebsebseb> azizLIGHT: plenty of old cds here unlabbled to go through but dont think ill try  to recover anything properly from any of them
[07:28] <Scoop7> this one https://gfycat.com/gifs/detail/BadUnluckyCrossbill is very secure and unique  volume controller
[07:28] <Scoop7> one user volume per user only
[07:31] <Nvidiot> Hi, anyone around who can help me with a broadcom wireless driver issue? iwconfig does not see the card, sudo modprobe wl gives this in dmesg: https://pastebin.com/JBnkRzkw (complaining about unknown symbols). I'm running 14.04 LTS with a 4.4 kernel
[07:32] <Nvidiot> I have tried reinstalling the bcmwl-kernel-source package, even tried updating to a more recent version as suggested by a post on the ubuntu forums, but no luck
[07:34] <azizLIGHT> is it safe to rename /var/log/kern.log to /var/log/kern.log.to-delete while im booted. i want to trim the log file and reclaim some space on my rootfs
[07:36] <azizLIGHT> also i noticed i dont have any kern.log or kern.log.*.gz file before jun 1
[07:36] <azizLIGHT> actual file gets rotated and compressed, and then eventually deleted?
[07:36] <azizLIGHT> 7 days after current day?
[07:42] <Nvidiot> Does anyone have an idea about my issue with the broadcom wireless card?
[07:45] <azizLIGHT> everybody sleepin looks like
[07:45] <Nvidiot> yeah I guess :(
[07:47] <Nvidiot> Been pulling my hair out on this one. Not many google hits and the suggestions there do not work. It USED to work with the older (3.x) kernel, but I need the 4.4 kernel because I need kerberos which seems to be broken in 3.x (and which does work right in 4.4)
[07:47] <SkylakeMX> hey ppl
[07:48] <sebsebseb> Nvidiot: yes broadcom doesnt have good lnux support
[07:48] <sebsebseb> Nvidiot: so may need a propritary driver
[07:49] <sebsebseb> Nvidiot: might be one in additional drivers gui program in ubuntu but will need to ethernnet connect to download if no net
[07:50] <Nvidiot> sebsebseb: I've got the ethernet plugged in right now. How do I get to that program (I'm not running the standard window manager)
[07:51] <raga> Hi can anyone guide me how to fresh install ubuntu on a already dual booted system. I have the bootable usb created
[07:55] <SkylakeMX> raga: what systems are present?
[07:56] <raga> Windows 10 and ubuntu 16. I wanted to reinstall ubuntu 16
[07:56] <SkylakeMX> raga: what about launching the bootable usb, format the present ubuntu installation and reinstall it on that partition?
[07:57] <SkylakeMX> raga: or did you setup with a certain structure?
[07:57] <raga> Yes. That is what needs to be done. Can you guide me through the steps in a little more detail?
[07:57] <raga> SkylakeMX, How do I launch the bootable usb?
[07:57] <SkylakeMX> raga: sure, is it possible for you to tell me what screen you are on while running the setup? I can guide you
[07:57] <raga> Currently The system is shut down
[07:58] <raga> I have a bootable usb with me
[07:58] <SkylakeMX> raga: depends on the motherboard of the system, usually F10 gives a boot menu while repeatly pressing while starting up (before ubuntu/windows loads)
[07:58] <raga> SkylakeMX ok am about to do that
[07:58] <SkylakeMX> raga: the usb stick should already be present in the USB port
[07:58] <raga> Yes
[07:59] <raga> I pressed f10
[07:59] <SkylakeMX> raga: did you get a menu with boot device options?
[07:59] <raga> Yes
[07:59] <SkylakeMX> raga: what options do you have?
[08:00] <raga> SkylakeMX, iin the UEFI boot order: the order is 1) USB diskette on Key/Usb hard disk2) OS boot Manager 3) Internal Cd 4) USB Cd/DVD
[08:01] <SkylakeMX> raga: UEFI -> USB Key/Usb hard disk: does this one do something?
[08:02] <raga> If I just exit, I enter into the grub menu not the usb bootable
[08:02] <SkylakeMX> raga: you should not exit, you should boot from the usb stick
[08:03] <raga> SkylakeMX how do I do that
[08:03] <SkylakeMX> raga: can't you recognize your usb in the bootmenu with the make of it?
[08:04] <SkylakeMX> raga: you should mark the option with the arrow keys and press enter to boot from the selected device
[08:04] <raga> SkylakeMX, in the legacy boot order or the Uefi Boot Order?
[08:05] <SkylakeMX> raga: depends on how you created your USB, best would be the UEFI boot order
[08:05] <SkylakeMX> raga: how did you create your USB?
[08:05] <raga> rufus
[08:06] <SkylakeMX> raga: okay, then I guess it should be visible in UEFI mode
[08:07] <raga> SkylakeMX, in the UEFI Boot order : USB Diskette on Key/Usb Hard Disk is at the top
[08:08] <SkylakeMX> raga: what happends if you press enter while selecting that device?
[08:08] <raga> Nothing happens
[08:08] <SkylakeMX> raga: can you go back to the Legacy boot items?
[08:08] <raga> Yes
[08:08] <SkylakeMX> raga: just to check if it's present there
[08:09] <raga> In the boot options?
[08:09] <SkylakeMX> raga: yes
[08:10] <raga> SkylakeMX, this is what I have https://imgur.com/gallery/Gg1IF
[08:12] <SkylakeMX> raga: move your selection to legacy boot (usb diskette) and press F5/F6 to move it to the top
[08:12] <raga> done
[08:12] <SkylakeMX> raga: when you did that, press F10 to save your settings and let the computer boot (without pressing anything)
[08:12] <raga> ]Entered into bootable usb
[08:13] <SkylakeMX> raga: you launched from the usb stick now?
[08:13] <raga> SkylakeMX Yes, Try Ubuntu without installing or Install Ubuntu?
[08:13] <SkylakeMX> raga: use try without installing
[08:13] <SkylakeMX> raga: it's easier for you to follow with a graphical interface :)
[08:14] <raga> SkylakeMX booted
[08:14] <raga> into ubuntu
[08:14] <SkylakeMX> raga: if it's a laptop, make sure it's connected to the internet and the power adapter is connected
[08:14] <raga> Done
[08:14] <SkylakeMX> on the desktop you can open the setup
[08:15] <raga> SkyalkeMX, You mean the Install Ubuntu icon?
[08:15] <SkylakeMX> raga: yes
[08:15] <raga> SkylakeMX, https://askubuntu.com/questions/666631/how-can-i-dual-boot-windows-10-and-ubuntu-on-a-uefi-hp-notebook Do I need to follow 4.1 here?
[08:16] <SkylakeMX> raga: no need to do that
[08:16] <raga> ok
[08:17] <SkylakeMX> raga: just follow the basic steps https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/install-ubuntu-desktop
[08:17] <SkylakeMX> raga: but not selecting all default things while installing since you already got a system present
[08:17] <SkylakeMX> raga: did you open the setup?
[08:17] <raga> Yes
[08:17] <SkylakeMX> raga: what do you see?
[08:18] <raga> 2 options : 1) download updates while installing ubuntu 2) install 3rd party software for graphics , Flash , mp3 and other media
[08:19] <SkylakeMX> raga: select both if you don't mind installing propitary software but want better support
[08:19] <raga> Ok
[08:19] <SkylakeMX> raga: you can always lookup what propitary software is :)
[08:20] <raga> I have selected both and clicked continue
[08:20] <SkylakeMX> raga: on the next screen (installation type) select something else
[08:20] <raga> Its currently on the same screen
[08:20] <raga> I am getting the "wait circle"
[08:20] <SkylakeMX> raga: no problem, just wait for a moment
[08:21] <raga> done
[08:21] <raga> I am on next screen
[08:21] <SkylakeMX> raga: can you send a screenshot of what you see?
[08:21] <raga> Please wait
[08:21] <SkylakeMX> raga: would make it a lot easier for this screen to figure out what your configuration is
[08:21] <raga> ok
[08:23] <Nvidiot> Anyone around who can help with a Brcoadcom wireless issue? Relevant details here: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2363268
[08:25] <SkylakeMX> Nvidiot: did you check the additional drivers tab?
[08:26] <SkylakeMX> Nvidiot: i'm pretty sure there would be an propitary driver for your wireless adapter (make sure you are connected over LAN)
[08:26] <raga> SkylakeMX https://imgur.com/gallery/QbLWU
[08:27] <SkylakeMX> raga: select 'something else' and click next
[08:27] <SkylakeMX> raga: then send me another screenshot :P
[08:31] <Nvidiot> SkylakeMX: how do I get to the 'additional drivers' thing?
[08:31] <Nvidiot> (note: I'm not running the standard window manager, so I may need to know the name of the executable)
[08:31] <steven> morning, whats the way to set folder permission to automatically change every file created to a fixed user:group ?
[08:32] <SkylakeMX> Nvidiot: is jockey-text present on your system?
[08:32] <SkylakeMX> Nvidiot: try jockey-text --list
[08:33] <Nvidiot> that's not present on my system apparently
[08:33] <SkylakeMX> Nvidiot: and 'sudo ubuntu-drivers list'?
[08:34] <Nvidiot> that shows bcmwl-kernel-source and several nvidia drivers (the bcmwl-kernel-source one SHOULD work for the wireless card I have but it does not)
[08:35] <raga_> SkylakeMX http://imgur.com/a/s6cmL
[08:35] <SkylakeMX> raga_: you want to keep your windows installation right? and only replace the existing ubuntu installation?
[08:36] <raga_> SkylakeMX, YEs
[08:36] <SkylakeMX> raga_: can u make another screenshot while scrolled down so I can also see the other devices
[08:36] <raga_> ok
[08:36] <raga_> SkylakeMX http://imgur.com/a/r5LNI
[08:37] <SkylakeMX> raga_: okay, it's pretty simple in your case, select /dev/sda8 and click the minus icon next to change
[08:38] <raga_> SkylakeMX, you mean /dev/sda8 ext4
[08:39] <SkylakeMX> raga_: next there will be free space, select that and click the + icon, on that screen make sure the partition type is 'primary', use as 'ext4 journaling file system' and mount point is set to '/' and press OK
[08:39] <SkylakeMX> yes
[08:39] <SkylakeMX> raga_: after that, send me another screenshot to rule out any mistakes
[08:40] <raga_> SkylakeMX, when I press minus
[08:40] <raga_> SkylakeMX, its scanning
[08:41] <raga_> SkylakeMX, I selected and pressed minus. Now what?
[08:42] <SkylakeMX> raga_: i already sent you the next steps :)
[08:42] <raga_> SkylakeMX, there are 3 free spaces. 2 of 1mb and 1 of 100 gb
[08:43] <SkylakeMX> Nvidiot: have you checked https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx ?
[08:43] <SkylakeMX> raga_: you sure? you just removed /dev/sda8 (ext4) right?
[08:43] <raga_> yes
[08:44] <SkylakeMX> raga_: screenshot? :P
[08:44] <raga_> acually there are 4 free space
[08:45] <raga_> SkylakeMX, http://imgur.com/a/PObC4. The second image in the post should be the first one
[08:45] <Nvidiot> SkylakeMX: yup I looked at that. It suggests to use the bcmwl-kernel-source package, which does not work :(
[08:46] <SkylakeMX> raga_: next there will be free space, select that and click the + icon, on that screen make sure the partition type is 'primary', use as
[08:46] <SkylakeMX>                    'ext4 journaling file system' and mount point is set to '/' and press OK
[08:46] <SkylakeMX> raga_: your current selection is correct
[08:46] <SkylakeMX> the one with the size of around 100GB
[08:47] <SkylakeMX> Nvidiot: also the Installing b43/b43legacy firmware thing?
[08:47] <raga> SkylakeMX, can the size be increase by 50 GB?
[08:48] <Nvidiot> I've tried those, doesn't work either (which I expect, because that page says my specific card is not supported by that driver)
[08:48] <SkylakeMX> raga: you don't have more available space left which means you need to modify existing partitions
[08:49] <raga> Ohk so I won't be able to do that?
[08:49] <SkylakeMX> raga: If I were you I would install it with the 100 GB you got available, you can always resize your windows partition
[08:49] <raga> ok
[08:50] <raga> type: primary , Location for the new partition : beginning of this space . Use as Ext4, Mount point : / is that correct?
[08:50] <SkylakeMX> Nvidiot: i'm busy on work so i'm not having the ability to do a deep research on that at the moment :(
[08:50] <SkylakeMX> raga: correct ;)
[08:51] <Nvidiot> SkylakeMX: no problem, if you have more ideas let me know either on here or on the forums :)
[08:51] <raga_> SkylakeMX done http://imgur.com/a/W3Lc6
[08:52] <SkylakeMX> Nvidiot: sure ;) I'm in a bit lack of time lately but I will try to check this channel when I get home before working on my project
[08:52] <SkylakeMX> raga_: seems it picked up the old partition format. No problem, just check the 'Format' checkbox
[08:54] <raga_> SkylakeMX there is no Format Checkbox currently available http://imgur.com/a/RO74D
[08:55] <SkylakeMX> raga_: look carefully, /dev/sda8 - ext4 - / - [format checkbox] - size - size in use - system
[08:55] <raga_> SkylakeMX, done
[08:56] <SkylakeMX> raga_: if you are sure you did it correctly, press install now
[08:56] <raga_> SkylakeMX , http://imgur.com/a/jiHRm
[08:57] <SkylakeMX> raga_: there is no visible image on that link
[08:57] <raga> Please wait
[08:57] <raga> ]It is uploading
[08:59] <raga__> SkylakeMX http://imgur.com/a/EYSFG
[09:00] <SkylakeMX> raga__: seems correct to me, you are good to go
[09:00] <raga__> SkylakeMX, should I click Connect?
[09:01] <SkylakeMX> raga__: connect seems weird to me, maybe your connection felt away or something.. but yes
[09:01] <raga__> SkylakeMX, yes the wifi dropped suddenly
[09:02] <raga__> SkylakeMX, its opened a warning page to continue or not
[09:02] <SkylakeMX> raga__: if you can't get thru the whole setup you can always run it without installing updates etc
[09:02] <SkylakeMX> raga__: what warning?
[09:02] <raga__> SkylakeMX http://imgur.com/a/KOWWv
[09:04] <raga__> SkylakeMX Should I click Continue?
[09:04] <raga__> SkylakeMX are you there?
[09:08] <raga__> SkylakeMX dude are you available?
[09:08] <ObrienDave> if that's what you want to do, yes, it's safe to continue. are you SURE you want those partitions in those places?
[09:08] <raga__> Thats where he was guiding me
[09:09] <raga__> ObrienDave could You check
[09:09] <ObrienDave> just got here
[09:10] <raga__> ObreinDave http://imgur.com/a/uuhbt. Shoud I click on Install?
[09:10] <Nvidiot> raga__: that looks ok to me. 8 is the old installation, 9 is the old swap
[09:11] <hateball> raga__: no luck with new BIOS then I take it?
[09:11] <raga__> hateball yes
[09:11] <SkylakeMX> raga__: it's correct, you can continue but it's always better to have someone confirm. but i'm pretty sure I know what you want ;)
[09:11] <ObrienDave> i concur on the installation
[09:11] <raga> Clicked on install now
[09:15] <Nvidiot> bbl
[09:17] <Fallenour> HAZAH!
[09:17] <Fallenour> anyoen awake with me?
[09:17] <Fallenour> got a quick ubuntu question
[09:17] <hateball> !ask | Fallenour
[09:18] <ObrienDave> we probably have a quick answer for you ;P
[09:18] <Fallenour> 8D
[09:18] <raga> The screen is flashing bad
[09:18] <raga> Is it normal?
[09:18] <ObrienDave> no
[09:18] <raga> FUck
[09:18] <raga> What to do?
[09:18] <v4169sgr> Hi, looking for recommendations for a ubuntu flavour to install on an IBM Thinkpad T43 laptop with 2 GB RAM but a really small HBB [40 GB, split into 8 GB for / and 32 GB for /home]. It currently has 10.04 on it.
[09:18] <v4169sgr> *HDD
[09:19] <ObrienDave> let it install, look for current graphics drivers
[09:19] <Fallenour> Ok so Im building openstack for this project, www.github.com/fallenour/panda, and I need to understand a quick piece on a config video, they want me to unbind mysql from localhost to 0.0.0.0 , why would i do that?
[09:19] <Fallenour> wont that break keystone?
[09:19] <v4169sgr> It has stock ubuntu 10.04 on it atm
[09:19] <Fallenour> im trying to ween myself off of mirantis and do things without training wheels
[09:21] <ObrienDave> v4169sgr, get 12.04 from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases/ THEN go for 14.04 THEN 16.04 in THAT order
[09:22] <v4169sgr> Thanks, looking to do a clean install
[09:22] <v4169sgr> Willing to start over - blatt over the top of all in /
[09:22] <v4169sgr> but keep user data in /home
[09:22] <ObrienDave> v4169sgr, let each one install completely before attempting the next LTS release
[09:23] <ObrienDave> v4169sgr, as long as you don't format /home, it will be ok
[09:23] <v4169sgr> On my stock 16.04 install on a PC, I see the system taking 15 GB space on /
[09:23] <v4169sgr> I don't have that much space on the T43
[09:24] <Fallenour> oh my brain
[09:24] <v4169sgr> so am looking for a small footprint install of ubuntu
[09:24] <ObrienDave> try the minimal or go for xubuntu or lubuntu
[09:24] <hateball> !minimal | v4169sgr
[09:25] <v4169sgr> alright, something a little more user friendly :)
[09:25] <v4169sgr> is my father's laptop
[09:25] <v4169sgr> so needs to be ok for him to use
[09:25] <ObrienDave> i recommend xubuntu
[09:25] <v4169sgr> xubuntu or lubuntu are good recomendations, will check those out
[09:25] <azizLIGHT> my /var/log/kern.log file and /var/log/syslog files are getting huge and taking up a lot of space on my drive. can i delete or edit or trim them down to take up less space on my rootfs /
[09:27] <v4169sgr> xubuntu needs min 7.5 GB space, recommended 20 GB for expansion, which is reasonable. I have 8. So very tight
[09:28] <ObrienDave> a bigger HD comes to mind
[09:29] <v4169sgr> lubuntu seems much better
[09:29] <ObrienDave> the thinkpad should should support a MUCH larger drive than 40GB
[09:30] <ObrienDave> you can get a 500GB for 30 or 40 bucks now
[09:30] <v4169sgr> Can you get one new that will be compatible (just slot in) with the T43?
[09:30] <v4169sgr> The T43is seriously old ...
[09:31] <ObrienDave> if it's SATA, yes. if it's IDE, that's a bit herder to find
[09:31] <ObrienDave> *harder
[09:35] <v4169sgr> The current HDD is a
[09:35] <v4169sgr> Fujitsu Mobile MHV2040AH - hard drive - 40 GB - ATA-100
[09:35] <v4169sgr> not sure if that is sata or ide
[09:36] <ObrienDave> https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAAEE4M67305 IDE
[09:38] <ObrienDave> i think my old HP has a 160GB IDE. not sure what the capacity limit is for IDE
[09:38] <v4169sgr> ok, think the answer is leave it alone
[09:38] <v4169sgr> yes, seems ide drives are all small by today's standards
[09:38] <v4169sgr> I will look at lubuntu then
[09:38] <v4169sgr> and forget about expansion
[09:39] <ObrienDave> you should be able to find somewhere around 200GB IDE drive fairly cheap. use clonezilla to transfer the partitions
[09:42] <ObrienDave> well, it's my bedtime. good luck and goon night
[09:42] <ObrienDave> *good
[09:43] <hateball> vaishali: ata-100 would be IDE
[09:46] <v4169sgr> yes, agreed, and replacement ide hdds for t43 larger than 100 GB don't seem to exist
[09:59] <peixoto> hello :)
[10:00] <peixoto> damn it, keepass! i am using keepass with keefox. when i launch keepass via keefox on Firefox, i get this black icon square on the taskbar. i don't succeed correcting this bug!
[10:01] <jushur> maybe time to buy some new hardware?
[10:01] <raga> Hi
[10:01] <raga> I am in the terminal and it shows username@something ~$       . How do i change 'something'?
[10:01] <v4169sgr> why throw away rock solid IBM h/w :)
[10:04] <Guest22266> raga: edit /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname
[10:06] <jushur> raga: no dont do what Guest22266 said
[10:06] <raga> I just did :(
[10:07] <raga> jushur, what should I do?
[10:08] <cfhowlett> !hostname | jushur please read
[10:09] <jushur> cfhowlett: and if you read his initial question you will notice he did not ask how to change hostname..
[10:09] <raga> Can anybody tell me how desktop environment and distros are different from each other?
[10:10] <jushur> raga: that is kinda a lot. and not realy a support question.
[10:11] <v4169sgr> a distro is your operating system: everything in, on top of and under the hood
[10:11] <cfhowlett> !flavors | raga official ubuntu distros have a different desktop environment and different default apps.  under the hood, all the same
[10:11] <v4169sgr> a DE is the eye candy stuff, the shop window
[10:11] <jushur> raga: if you do, echo $PS1 , in the terminal it will show you the current setting for it.
[10:12] <raga> jushur, I have changed both /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts to the same name
[10:13] <jushur> raga: that you can change, by putting a line in ~/.bashrc
[10:13] <jushur> raga: and i did say iit was wrong right?
[10:13] <raga> jushur So what should I do now?
[10:13] <jushur> raga: you asked how to change your bash prompth, not how to change your hostname
[10:15]  * v4169sgr recommends fvwm :P
[10:15] <vlt> Hello. How can I add an icon to my unity desktop to run a program (shell script)?
[10:16] <Nvidiot> Anyone around who can help with a Broadcom wireless issue? https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2363268 has relevant info
[10:17] <jushur> raga: so what is it you want to do? change the look of the bash prompth or change your hostname of the computer?
[10:27] <vlt> What do I have to put into ~/.local/share/applications/my_script.desktop to create a clickable icon to launch ~/my_script.sh?
[10:30] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[10:30] <oerheks> vlt, step 1: use the full path of your script, /home/$USER/my_script.sh >> see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles
[10:31] <oerheks> hi BluesKaj
[10:31] <BluesKaj> hi oerheks
[10:46] <v4169sgr> Having issues with perf of ssd: please see https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2363087
[10:50] <Nvidiot> Anyone around who can help with a Broadcom wireless issue? https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2363268 has relevant info
[10:50] <Nvidiot> issue = it doesn't show up at all
[10:51] <vlt> oerheks: Thank you!
[10:53] <vlt> Hello. I connected an HP Laserjet M26a via USB and used the settings=>printers menu to add it. The printer was found but doesn't print; all jobs remain in the queue. How can I fix this?
[10:55] <hateball> vlt: make sure it's using the proper driver
[10:55] <hateball> vlt: sometimes it picks the wrong one automatically
[10:55] <hateball> vlt: you have foomatic, hpijs etc
[10:56] <BluesKaj> Nvidiot, have you looked at the broadcom-sta-common driver ?
[10:57] <hateball> vlt: ah, appears it needs additional firmware to work according to http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/laserjet/hp_laserjet_pro_mfp_m26a.html
[10:57] <hateball> vlt: you install that using hp-setup
[10:57] <vlt> hateball: Thank you for having found this. I'll try that.
[10:58] <hateball> vlt: just run hp-setup and the wizard should fix everything for you
[10:58] <BluesKaj> Nvidiot, run lspci -vvnn | grep -A 9 Network to find your wifi card, just to be sure
[10:59] <vlt> hateball: Damn, that wizard says "no devices found" (while cups did)
[11:00] <hateball> vlt: can you try specififying the device id?
[11:01] <vlt> hateball: Where to find that id?
[11:01] <vlt> hateball: lsusb?
[11:01] <hateball> vlt: run "lsusb" to see the device id
[11:01] <hateball> vlt: yep
[11:01] <hateball> then hp-setup -i id:here
[11:01] <vlt> hateball: Bus 001 Device 003: ID 03f0:932a Hewlett-Packard
[11:01] <vlt> hateball: 001:003?
[11:02] <hateball> vlt: yea
[11:02] <Nvidiot> BluesKaj: the thread I posted has the output of the lspci there. If I remember right the broadcom-sta-common one doesn't support the card I have?
[11:02] <vlt> hateball: Still no devices found. Could it be a permission problem?
[11:03] <limali> hi
[11:03] <hateball> vlt: hmmm... I think it should be able to find the device regardless. I cant remember if it needs sudo to download the firmware
[11:04] <limali> what's that side bar, that has changed it's color from brown?
[11:04] <cfhowlett> download, no installation, yes
[11:04] <hateball> vlt: suppose you can give sudo a go
[11:04] <limali> the notification bar at the right side, reminds of wirless?
[11:04] <limali> cfhowlett: ?
[11:04] <hateball> cfhowlett: well yea, that was kinda implied ;p
[11:04] <limali> notification bar has changed color from brown to silver? so hwo do I change it back ?
[11:05] <hateball> vlt: there is also hp-probe
[11:05] <vlt> hateball: Searching... (bus=usb, search=(None), desc=0) \n error: No devices found on bus: usb
[11:05] <vlt> hateball: Same with sudo
[11:05] <hateball> That's really strange
[11:06] <hateball> vlt: And if you remove it from CUPS, and reattach it, does it reinstall ?
[11:06] <vlt> hateball: hp-probe => usb => no devices found
[11:06] <Nvidiot> BluesKaj: also, the bcmwl-kernel-source does work with the 3.13 kernel, showing that it IS the correct driver
[11:06]  * vlt checks
[11:07] <tcpdump> Anyone have any idea why the Ubuntu installer creates an extended partiton then puts your new volume inside the extended?
[11:07] <tcpdump> Like, wth does it do that?
[11:08] <hateball> tcpdump: are you dualbooting?
[11:08] <tcpdump> hateball: nope
[11:08] <vlt> hateball: I removed the printer from CUPS, un- and replugged it.
[11:08] <vlt> hateball: hp-setup and hp-probe still don't find it.
[11:08] <tcpdump> Just Ubuntu server x64 - when you do a clean ubuntu install using the wizard it does that.
[11:08] <vlt> hateball: What to try next?
[11:08] <hateball> vlt: did it repopulate itself into cups tho?
[11:09] <tcpdump> So if you want to extend your LVM drive you have to grow your extended part, then your logical volume.
[11:09] <vlt> hateball: No, it's not listed.
[11:09] <MarcGuay> Hi folks.  I'm running 14.04 w/ Skype 4.3 which will no longer be supported.  What's the best way to update to 5.3?
[11:09] <tcpdump> also, love the name hateball
[11:09] <tcpdump> MarcGuay: dont use skype?
[11:09] <tcpdump> :D
[11:10] <vlt> hateball: It appears in CUPS's "Find new printers" result
[11:10] <hateball> vlt: That's odd as hell. And if you add it, can you see what port it uses?
[11:10] <MarcGuay> tcpdump: Is there other software which can communicate with skype users?
[11:10] <tcpdump> MarcGuay: do a distro update.
[11:10] <hateball> vlt: for instance usb:// or hp:// or some such
[11:10] <tcpdump> to 16.04
[11:10] <vlt> hateball: usb://HP/LaserJet%20Pro%20MFP%20M26a?serial=...
[11:11] <MarcGuay> tcpdump: Not sure which messages are for me, you're suggesting I update ubuntu to 16.04?
[11:13] <cfhowlett> MarcGuay, per msoft, skype linux support dies on July 1st regardless of versions.
[11:13]  * tcpdump feels like cfhowlett may have used the google machine.
[11:13] <tcpdump> Not suprised.. its MICROSOFT
[11:15] <MarcGuay> cfhowlett:  The notice on the download page says "All Skype for Linux clients version 4.3 and older will be retired on July 1, 2017. To keep chatting, please install the latest version of Skype for Linux."
[11:15] <MarcGuay> So 4.3 and older will actually stop working, but newer versions will work ok, regardless of support I guess.
[11:16] <cfhowlett> I stand corrected then.  thank you.
[11:16] <cfhowlett> the web based versions work with linux no probem
[11:17] <MarcGuay> cfhowlett: If this install of 5.3 fails I guess I'll have to use that.
[11:18] <BluesKaj> Nvidiot,  have you considered the dkms build driver, broadcom-sta-dkms ?
[11:20] <MarcGuay> Downloaded the deb file from the Skype website and it installed fine, but next to the old version, rather than updating it.
[11:20] <Nvidiot> BluesKaj: hmm, let me give that a shot. I'll disconnect from here because the wifi doesn't work and I need to download the driver :)
[11:24] <hateball> vlt: none of my devices have needed extra firmware so I am not too knowledgable about them
[11:24] <hateball> vlt: I am thinking if it is possible to just download the firmware somehow, without hp-setup finding the device
[11:25] <hateball> vlt: does hp-firmware find anything?
[11:25] <Nvidiot2> BluesKaj: the broadcom-sta-dkms fails with a build error :(
[11:26] <BluesKaj> Nvidiot2,  did you install dkms, sometimes it's not installed by default
[11:27] <BluesKaj> forgot to mention that :/
[11:27] <Nvidiot2> it complains about alloc_netdev being undeclared
[11:29] <Nvidiot2> BluesKaj: any ideas?
[11:30] <BluesKaj> Nvidiot2,  odd, normally bcm drivers just work
[11:30] <Nvidiot2> Yeah. I think I'm hitting some weird incompatibility with the driver + the 4.4 kernel that I'm running. It works fine on 3.13, but I need the 4.4 kernel to get Kerberos to work
[11:31] <BluesKaj> Nvidiot2,  which ubuntu version?
[11:31] <Nvidiot2> the 'wl' module expects a certain interface but it can't find it
[11:31] <Nvidiot2> I'm running 14.04.5 LTS
[11:32] <akik> Nvidiot2: what is the dependency between the kernel and kerberos? first time i hear something like that
[11:33] <Lavinho> good morning
[11:33] <Lavinho> how to put card local meo read dreambox ?
[11:34] <akik> Lavinho: could you rephrase that, please?
[11:34] <Lavinho> How do I get a dreambox to read meo card?
[11:38] <akik> Lavinho: do you have ubuntu installed in your dreambox?
[11:38] <Lavinho> no
[11:38] <Lavinho> dreambox based linux
[11:38] <akik> Lavinho: this channel is for ubuntu support only
[11:40] <vlt> hateball: hp-firmware => "error:  No devices that support firmware download found."
[11:41] <hateball> :|
[11:41] <Nvidiot2> akik: kerberos auth to a windows share with ntlm v1 disabled did not work with the 3.13 kernel but works fine with 4.4
[11:42] <hateball> vlt: I see this https://bugs.launchpad.net/hplip/+bug/1646653
[11:42] <hateball> vlt: which means you'd need to install a newer hplip manually to solve that, I guess
[11:45] <hateball> vlt: you can also run hp-doctor to upgrade, it would seem
[11:47] <SimonNL> vlt: You must ensure latest HPLIP version (recommemded), or at least HPLIP 3.17.5 in order to use your printer with Ubuntu 16.04.
[11:47] <SimonNL> vlt: coming from http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install_wizard/index.html
[11:49] <irwiss> can you monitor ubuntu auto updates somehow? i fired up a vm, it decided to update stuff, i can see apt processes starting up and doing stuff, i can't see anything about what they're doing though
[11:51] <vlt> SimonNL, hateball: Thanks!
[11:51] <vlt> :-|
[11:52] <SimonNL> vlt: you're welcome
[11:52] <Nvidiot2> Anyone around who can help with a non-working Broadcom wireless card? https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2363268
[11:52] <vlt> ,v hplip
[11:54] <SimonNL> Nvidiot2: my info page tells me you need  bcmwl-kernel-source
[11:55] <vlt> hplip 3.17 is not even in Ubuntu 17.04 o_O
[11:56] <Nvidiot2> SimonNL: that's the one I installed and that doesn't work :(
[11:56] <SimonNL> vlt: uninstall it from package manager and download from      http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/install/index.html
[11:56] <SimonNL> vlt: install info is there also
[11:56] <Nvidiot2> SimonNL: it gives the modprobe errors shown in the forum post :(
[11:57] <vlt> 2017-06-01 10:09:16     hateball        But usually the answer is "all of them"
[11:57] <vlt> hateball: :-D
[11:57] <vlt> SimonNL: Thank you.
[11:58] <SimonNL> Nvidiot2: rebooted after install ?
[11:58] <hateball> vlt: :p
[11:58] <hateball> vlt: I did say usually :p
[11:58] <vlt> hateball: I know ;-)
[11:59] <Nvidiot2> SimonNL: it's not windows but yes, I've rebooted. Same error in dmesg but then on boot of the machine
[11:59] <SimonNL> Nvidiot2: does driver manager not show broadcom drivers
[12:00] <Nvidiot2> SimonNL: how do I start that? I am not running the standard window manager
[12:00] <SimonNL> could be somewhere in your menu. sorry I don't used ubuntu
[12:01] <SimonNL> Nvidiot2: maybe driver-manager from command line
[12:01] <hateball> You can use the ubuntu-drivers command from cli, thats what's underneath the GUI
[12:02] <Nvidiot2> ty, trying :)
[12:02] <Nvidiot2> yup, that suggests bcmwl-kernel-source for the wireless card. Doesn't work tho :(
[12:03] <hateball> Nvidiot2: can you "sudo apt install dkms build-essential" first, to make sure you have everything you may need
[12:04] <Nvidiot2> hateball: both already the newest version
[12:05] <xtuber> tkinter for python3
[12:05] <xtuber> ?
[12:06] <xtuber> how can I ask here?
[12:06] <hateball> Nvidiot2: and you're just using the standard xenial kernel?
[12:06] <hateball> !ru | xtuber
[12:07] <hateball> xtuber: I dont understand what you want to ask really
[12:07] <Nvidiot2> I didn't do a manual build if that's what you're asking
[12:07] <hateball> Nvidiot2: well yeah, but if you're using a mainline kernel or something you wont have the headers needed for dkms to build
[12:08] <akik> hateball: i'm using a mainline kernel and dkms works fine
[12:08] <Nvidiot2> hateball: I have linux-image-virtual-lts-xenial installed, I assume that's the standard xenial kernel (which happens to be 4.4)
[12:11] <SimonNL> Nvidiot2: in package manager make sure you have only bcmwl-kernel-source installed for that device. search broadcom in there
[12:12] <SimonNL> Nvidiot2: if you find time for it.
[12:13] <Nvidiot2> SimonNL: dpkg -l | grep -i broadcom   only shows bcmwl-kernel-source as installed
[12:13] <hateball> akik: right, but you also have the sources then I take it
[12:14] <hateball> headers, that is
[12:15] <Nvidiot2> yes, the related -headers package is also installed (which makes sense, because the build step works, it just fails after it's done building)
[12:15] <SimonNL> Nvidiot2: I'm more a GUI kind of person. I'm not at all sure of that output.
[12:15] <akik> hateball: yes the three .deb packages that are needed and shared at http://kernel.ubuntu.com/kernel-ppa/mainline/
[12:17] <hateball> :)
[12:17] <Nvidiot2> SimonNL: I checked synaptic, also there only bcmwl-kernel-source installed
[12:17] <SimonNL> Nvidiot2: one other thing my info page tells me is if bcmwl-kernel-source does not work you could try firmware-b43-installer
[12:18] <SimonNL> Nvidiot2: https://askubuntu.com/questions/55868/installing-broadcom-wireless-drivers/60395#60395
[12:18] <Nvidiot2> Tried that one, doesn't work :(
[12:19] <SimonNL> device broke comes more and more to mind.
[12:19] <Nvidiot2> It's something to go with the combination bcmwl-kernel-source and this 4.4 kernel that breaks I think
[12:19] <Nvidiot2> Nope, because the card works just fine if I boot into the 3.13 kernel
[12:19] <BluesKaj> akik,  for some reason the url you posted 404's
[12:19] <Nvidiot2> with the same driver :|
[12:19] <SimonNL> hmm any way you couls upgrade kernel?
[12:19] <SimonNL> could*
[12:20] <SimonNL> I'm on 4.10 on my laptop using same driver
[12:21] <akik> BluesKaj: ok somehow my irssi removed the tilde in front of kernel-ppa
[12:21] <raga> Hi https://imgur.com/a/inGTq. In the unkown cell, I am unable to check the first radio button. When I click on it and click on "apply changes" nothing happens
[12:22] <raga> ioria Hi
[12:22] <ioria> raga, hi, how you doing ?
[12:22] <SimonNL> BluesKaj: could it be this. http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/?C=N;O=D
[12:22] <raga> Fine. I was unable to resolve the issue. Therefore I clean installed ubuntu 16 again
[12:23] <BluesKaj> SimonNL,  I found it
[12:23] <ioria> raga, sorry about that
[12:23] <raga> ioria https://imgur.com/a/inGTq. In the unkown cell, I am unable to check the first radio button. When I click on it and click on "apply changes" nothing happens
[12:24] <Nvidiot2> SimonNL: how do I switch to the 4.10 kernel then?
[12:24] <SimonNL> Nvidiot2: sorry you will have to ask an ubuntu person
[12:24] <ioria> raga,  the problem is nvidia driver or the cpu microcode ?
[12:25] <raga> ioria , cpu microcode
[12:25] <ioria> raga,  why do you need it ? nvidia is working ?
[12:25] <SimonNL> Nvidiot2: in mint it's using the update manager
[12:26] <ioria> raga,  usually you don't need that
[12:26] <raga> ioria, in the NVIDIA X server settings, I see that nvidia is enabled. Is there any other way to check
[12:26] <rud0lf> hello.. i've installed app called anbox, then removed it.. it seems to failed to cleanup after itself, now systemd-modules-load complains about missing "ashmem_linux" and "binder_linux" modules.. how do i remove those entries manually?
[12:26] <rud0lf> i googled and ashmem and binder are strictly anbox's modules
[12:27] <ioria> raga,  don't worry about that (for now) , just test your nvidia driver  if it's working good ..... paste   sudo lshw -c Video
[12:27] <SimonNL> vlt: any progress ?
[12:28] <raga> ioria , https://pastebin.com/SCQGU7J7
[12:29] <ioria> raga,  ok, are you experiencing some kind of problems ?
[12:29] <Nvidiot2> SimonNL: ok, ty for your help :)
[12:29] <raga> Nope. Its been only an hour since I fresh installed ubuntu
[12:30] <BluesKaj> raga,  optimus! hybrid graphics, you should have mentioned this
[12:30] <rud0lf> nvm, found it :)
[12:30] <rud0lf> /etc/modules-load.d/
[12:30] <raga> BluesKaj , I didn't get that?
[12:30] <BluesKaj> you have 2 gpus
[12:31] <BluesKaj> !optimus
[12:31] <ioria> raga,  ok ... if i remember correctly, yesterday your pc was booting not with systemd but with init/upstart
[12:31] <raga> ioria : yes
[12:31] <ioria> raga,  but now, resetting your system it's a bit hard to find out why ...
[12:32] <BluesKaj> ioria,  he has optimus graphics , probly needs bumblebee
[12:32] <ioria> BluesKaj, why not prime ?
[12:32] <raga> ioria, I have been here since the past 6 hours. Everybody adviced me to do a clean install, so I did
[12:32] <BluesKaj> prime is installed by default or should be ioria
[12:33] <ioria> raga i see ...
[12:33] <vlt> SimonNL: http://termbin.com/f0ft
[12:33] <vlt> hateball: ^
[12:33] <raga> ioria, Yesterday also, everybody was saying to reinstall ubuntu
[12:33] <ioria> BluesKaj,  i think so ....
[12:33] <ioria> raga ok.....
[12:33] <vlt> SimonNL, hateball: "error: /home/run/.hplip/hplip-3.17.6-plugin.run file does not match its checksum. File may have been corrupted or altered" every single time.
[12:33] <BluesKaj> I didn't advise you to reinstall ubuntu raga, but you did so anyway and how did it help?
[12:34] <ioria> raga  in few words .... /sbin/init it's a link to your pid 1 ...
[12:34] <Nvidiot2> thx for the help everyone, got to go
[12:34] <raga> BluesKaj, yes you did not. But today morning also, everybody was telling me to do so
[12:34] <ioria> raga  ls -l /sbin/init .... what gives you ?
[12:34] <vlt> SimonNL, hateball: The printer is detected now by `hp-setup` but installing the required proprietary plugin fails :-/
[12:35] <raga> ioria lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 Feb 15 20:40 /sbin/init -> /lib/systemd/systemd
[12:35] <BluesKaj> raga,  sometimes you have to think for yourself...logic
[12:35] <ioria> raga  yes, now you're using systemd ...
[12:36] <raga> BluesKaj , I am just a newbie, I thought everybody here was quite experienced and therefore went with there advice
[12:36] <ioria> raga  you're soing good, don't worry
[12:36] <BluesKaj> well, one thing that will probly work now is sysemd
[12:36] <ioria> *doing
[12:36] <BluesKaj> systemd even
[12:36] <SimonNL> vlt: you probably still need that plugin
[12:37] <vlt> SimonNL: Yes, I’m pretty sure. But the installation fails.
[12:38] <hateball> vlt: you'll need to be using sudo to install the plugin
[12:38] <ioria> raga  you probably booted with the wrong grub setting, or maybe something weird happened .... the advice for newbies is to stick with official pkgs
[12:38] <peixoto> who use keepass with keefox?
[12:38] <peixoto> :)
[12:38] <BluesKaj> raga,  one thing to remember,  alot of uders have their fav methods and ia they can't think od a solution they suggest a reinstall
[12:38] <raga> ioria, I mentioned yesterday that the grub menu was coming in black color
[12:38] <BluesKaj> ia=if
[12:39] <raga> BluesKaj, Thanks for the advice. Will follow in future :)
[12:39] <ioria> raga  i don't know what is black colour .... can you explain  a bit ?
[12:39] <ioria> raga  if you dual boot, you must have a grub screen
[12:40] <raga> ioria, IDK the grub menu suddenly started appearing in black color instead of purple
[12:40] <raga> ioria, https://askubuntu.com/questions/541402/gnu-grub-version-2-02-beta-2-9-while-booting-from-usb
[12:40] <raga> ioria, this was what was written on the grub menu
[12:42] <SimonNL> Please run 'hp-plugin' as normal user to install plug-ins.   Visit  http://hplipopensource.com  for more infomation. vlt from your paste
[12:42] <ioria> raga  so, instead of the grub screen , you had the grub prompt , like this:   grub>_    ?
[12:43] <vlt> hateball: I also tried sudo. Same error. But there's an additional dialog that tells me to "run 'hp-plugin' as normal user to install plugins". This fails again with the checksum error.
[12:43] <vlt> SimonNL: How to find out whether HP considers me a "normal user"? :p
[12:44] <raga> ioria everything was same like the grub menu. The options were the same. Only at the top grub... was written and it was in black color
[12:44] <SimonNL> :)
[12:44] <iamjawa> Hey
[12:44] <iamjawa> Lul
[12:44] <ioria> raga  ok, i don't think the colour could be an issue ... something else happened
[12:44] <iamjawa> Hey
[12:45] <iamjawa> Anyone here?
[12:46] <raga> ioria, BluesKaj, Thanks for your help. I have got to go. Bye :)
[12:47] <ioria> raga  piece of advice: everything you do on your pc is logged or registered :
[12:47] <ioria> wait
[12:47] <raga> ok
[12:47] <ioria> raga  the main files to paste are:  /var/log/syslog; dmesg, and history
[12:47] <raga> ioria what are the commands?
[12:47] <ioria> raga  and /var/log/apt/history.log
[12:48] <ioria> raga  they are files, not commands
[12:48] <raga> So I need to open using nano or sublime or something?
[12:48] <ioria> raga  e.g:  cat   /var/log/apt/history.log
[12:48] <raga> Ok
[12:48] <raga> Got it
[12:48] <ioria> raga  use the 'cat' command
[12:48] <raga> Why?
[12:49] <ioria> raga  it's faster
[12:49] <raga> Ok got it. So in future if I face any issues, I can post the logs here
[12:49] <ioria> raga yes
[12:50] <raga> Thanks
[12:50] <raga> got it
[12:50] <SimonNL> vlt: only thing I can think of right now is download hplip again and try installing it again.
[12:50] <ioria> raga no problem, you're on the good track
[12:50] <raga> ioria :) Thanks for the guidance . Bye. I have an evening class
[12:50] <ioria> raga bye
[12:51] <user1337> Hello #ubuntu, is it possible to disable service restart on package upgrade? (for example mysql package upgrade triggers service restart, sometimes it is better to handle those manually)
[12:52] <akik> user1337: you could disable the service before the upgrade
[12:53] <user1337> akik: ok, but there is no way to disable this feature except rebuilding a package without that post scritplet? (or is there some other mechanism which triggers it)
[12:53] <akik> user1337: no i mean something like "sudo systemctl disable service"
[12:54] <user1337> akik: so you think that would prevent post-upgrade scriptlet (or however it is called) to restart service? (I can probably check this in source package)
[12:54] <akik> user1337: yes i think so. i ran into this same problem on debian
[12:56] <akik> stopped the service, updated the package and wondered why it started automatically
[12:56] <vlt> SimonNL: Solved.
[12:57] <vlt> SimonNL, hateball: I had to download the plugin manually from https://www.openprinting.org/download/printdriver/auxfiles/HP/plugins/
[12:57] <SimonNL> vlt: \o/
[12:57] <vlt> Then I had to download it again because I had saved it to ~/.hplip from where `hp-plugin` deleted it during installation.
[12:58] <vlt> Then I ran it again, pointed the installer to a different download location and then finally it worked.
[12:58] <vlt> Thanks, SimonNL and hateball, for your help!
[12:58] <SimonNL> vlt: shouldn't be like that but hey who cares.
[13:05] <welker> I am running an automated ubuntu 16.04 installation via kickstart which works fine. But as soon as I add a %packages section with an %end tag I recive the following error: Package unknown %end. It seems to have a problem with the %end of %packages. Any ideas?
[13:05] <welker> the same syntax works in centos. I assume its a ubuntu thing
[13:07] <hateball> vlt: good that it is at least working
[13:07] <hateball> vlt: too bad it wasnt a smoother ride
[13:10] <tmwsiy> Is there a recovery path for rollingback kernel or manaully upgrading zfsutils to 0.6.5.8?
[13:11] <tmwsiy> on 16.04
[13:12] <ioria> !info zfsutils-linux xenial
[13:14] <tmwsiy> right but it is broken in the LTS release and has been
[13:14] <tmwsiy> https://askubuntu.com/questions/870467/zfs-modules-are-not-loaded-after-kernel-update
[13:14] <tmwsiy> look at comment from Jan 17
[13:15] <ioria> !info zfsutils-linux yakkety
[13:15] <tmwsiy> looking for LTS :)
[13:15] <tmwsiy> I am just going to compile 0.6.5.9 and see how it goes
[13:16] <ioria> mmmm
[13:16] <tmwsiy> cd ..
[13:17] <tmwsiy> lnice to see how helpful this channel has become :)
[13:18] <ioria> !info why don't you use the yakkety hwe stack ....
[13:19] <ioria> sorry
[13:19] <ioria> tmwsiy,  why don't you use the yakkety hwe stack ....
[13:22] <v4169sgr> !help
[13:27] <ioria> tmwsiy,  i mean the yakkety kernel on xenial ....
[13:39] <pakcjo> random question of the day: (for 500 points), what is required to switch from grub background into plymouth theme without a glitch?
[13:40] <ioria> pakcjo, do you have glitch ?
[13:41] <pakcjo> ioria: yes, screen goes black for about a second or half second
[13:42] <ioria> pakcjo, nvidia ?
[13:42] <ioria> btw, glitch != blank
[13:43] <pakcjo> ioria: nope, it has a generic via card
[13:43] <pakcjo> ioria: noted, glitch wasn't the best word
[13:43] <ioria> pacbard, via card  ? a  bit old , i think ?
[13:43] <pakcjo> yes
[13:44] <pakcjo> wonder if nomodeset and gfxpayload=keep may help
[13:45] <ioria> pacbard, your system specs ?   cat /proc/cpuinfo and   sudo dmidecode -t 2
[13:46] <pakcjo> ioria: not in the system at the moment, sorry. I'm just trying to gather ideas for testing later
[13:46] <vimal2012> After boot, I am dropped to grub commandline (no menu).  I have to manually type "configfile (hd0,gpt6)/boot/grub/grub.cfg" to bring the menu.  How to solve this problem?
[13:47] <ioria> pakcjo, via card could be an issue and require a /etc/X11/xorg.conf set....  maybe you could try a lighter version
[13:48] <ioria> vimal2012, reintall grub ?
[13:49] <vimal2012> I tried "sudo grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=/boot/efi/ --bootloader-id=grub  && sudo update-grub2"
[13:49] <vimal2012> Still problem persists
[13:49] <ioria> vimal2012, from livecd ?
[13:49] <vimal2012> I will try from livecd
[13:49] <ioria> vimal2012, yes, and paste sdo parted -l
[13:50] <ioria> vimal2012, yes, and paste sudo parted -l
[13:50] <akik> vimal2012: i've used this "sudo grub-install --efi-directory=/boot/efi --boot-directory=/boot --target=x86_64-efi"
[13:52] <vimal2012> parted output https://paste.debian.net/plain/970626
[13:53] <ioria> vimal2012, 105 is very small
[13:54] <ioria> vimal2012, at least 500 mb
[13:54] <vimal2012> and output of mount | grep sda https://paste.debian.net/plain/970627
[13:54] <ioria> vimal2012,  df -H
[13:56] <vimal2012> df -H http://paste.debian.net/plain/970628
[13:56] <ioria> vimal2012,  it's ok
[13:57] <ioria> vimal2012,  sudo mount /dev/sda6 /mnt
[13:58] <vimal2012> ioria, It is already mounted on /.  Should I run this command?
[13:58] <vimal2012> Anyway, I ran "sudo mount /dev/sda6 /mnt"
[13:59] <ioria> vimal2012,  you need / (sda6) mounted on /mnt not elsewhere
[13:59] <vimal2012> done
[13:59] <vimal2012> edit /etc/fstab?
[13:59] <ioria> vimal2012,  nope, ls /mnt
[14:00] <regedit> hello
[14:00] <regedit> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24808088/ what's going on with my ubuntu install?
[14:00] <vimal2012> ls /mnt output http://paste.debian.net/plain/970631
[14:01] <ioria> vimal2012,  for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[14:02] <vimal2012> done
[14:02] <ioria> vimal2012,  sudo chroot /mnt
[14:02] <vimal2012> chrooted
[14:02] <ioria> vimal2012,  mount -a
[14:02] <vimal2012> done
[14:03] <ioria> vimal2012,  grub-install && update-grub
[14:03] <vimal2012> grub-install (with the same arguments I used previously)?
[14:04] <ioria> vimal2012,  grub-install && update-grub
[14:04] <vimal2012> I just ran "grub-install".
[14:04] <vimal2012> Installation finished. No errors reported
[14:04] <ioria> vimal2012,  update-grub again, and check the entries
[14:05] <vimal2012> update-grub ran successfully
[14:05] <ioria> vimal2012,  let's try a reboot
[14:05] <vimal2012> reboot?
[14:06] <ioria> vimal2012,  yes, other than that maybe a kernel issue
[14:11] <vimal2012> ioria, Thank you, After rebooting, grub menu appeared. Why the problem occurred previously?
[14:12] <ioria> vimal2012,  ok, good work, i'am not a guru, maybe you can recall something you did, or explore your logs (like, histoyy, or /var/log/apt/history.log to find out)
[14:13] <ioria> vimal2012,  or maybe a windows updates
[14:17] <JrWebDev>  im trying to change the date on my virtual machine.  my vm guest is Xubuntu 16.04.2  i tried using timedatectl to set the time and sudo date --set="" and even tried modifying the vm bios time (virtualbox) ,  i also disconnected the network adapter and yet it still goes back to todays current date...when i change it only last for 5 seconds and switches how da heck do i stop it?
[14:19] <ioria> JrWebDev, usually, the command is sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata    but what you wanno do exactly ?
[14:20] <YankDownUnder> ...almost would appear as though the virtual machine is NOT reading from the hardware of the host machine...
[14:20] <JrWebDev> i wanna totally trick my vm into thinking its another date.  i need it for my web application so i can run tests that will occur once the current date changes to a specified date
[14:20] <regedit> anyone please? can't seem to install ubuntu... http://paste.ubuntu.com/24808088/
[14:21] <ioria> JrWebDev, so disable system ntp, and set manully date ?
[14:22] <JrWebDev> how would i do that?
[14:22] <JrWebDev> im using the xubuntu version
[14:22] <CoderEurope> regedit, take it away with you, that : https://ubuntu-mate.org/download/
[14:22] <JrWebDev> the one with the mouse icons
[14:23] <ioria> JrWebDev, stop/disable autmtic clock settings and use the cli  (like date -s "2 OCT 2017 18:00:00") to set time/date
[14:24] <JrWebDev> ive done that and it still goes back after 5 seconds
[14:24] <ioria> i see
[14:24] <JrWebDev> ive used timedatectl set-time '' and sudo date --set=''
[14:24] <JrWebDev> still doesnt change
[14:24] <JrWebDev> only for a few seconds
[14:25] <JrWebDev> i wonder how developers test and debug when their code is specified with time
[14:25] <JrWebDev> i would think this was be a common thing to do
[14:25] <ioria> JrWebDev,  in chroot i guess, not sure
[14:26] <JrWebDev> idk
[14:26] <ioria> JrWebDev,  if your clock set is unchanged, you still have some automatic settings ups
[14:27] <JrWebDev> yeah
[14:27] <JrWebDev> just wish i knew what to kill so that nothing automatic happens...
[14:27] <JrWebDev> set the time and boom use that time
[14:29] <ioria> JrWebDev,  timedatectl set-ntp 0
[14:29] <JrWebDev>  ive also done that too
[14:29] <JrWebDev> and reboot the machine
[14:29] <JrWebDev> rebooted
[14:30] <waltman> I'm running 17.04 as my desktop. The first time you try to access your ssh key after a reboot a window pops up asking you for your password. Yesterday I was logged in remotely and was trying to ssh and it was just hanging. I realized it was displaying the password screen locallly instead of remotely. Is there any way to tweak that?
[14:30] <JrWebDev> i also did some VBomManage to reset the bios clock for the vm
[14:30] <JrWebDev> VBoxManage*
[14:30] <waltman> I wasn't even sure where that would be documented.
[14:31] <ioria> JrWebDev,  ok, try to stop/disable    systemd-timesyncd
[14:32] <JrWebDev> okay so systemctl stop systemd-timesyncd and then do all that other stuff?
[14:32] <ioria> JrWebDev,  after stop, sudo systemctl disable systemd-timesync
[14:34] <ioria> JrWebDev,  set manually the clock with date -s
[14:34] <JrWebDev> okay got it
[14:34] <JrWebDev> let me try that ill be back
[14:34] <ioria> JrWebDev,  gl
[14:35] <JrWebDev> thanks
[14:36] <akik> waltman: do you mean that by using the cli command ssh, a gui window opens up?
[14:37] <waltman> Yes
[14:39] <nicomachus> hi all. GIMP is crashing on me at some random times. Which logs can I check to see what's going on?
[14:40] <yarddog> what is the command to install bogofilter? it asks for more info than apt-get install bogfilter
[14:40] <SkylakeMX> nicomachus: did you check ~/.config/gimp or something like that?
[14:41] <selinuxium> Hi all, having a problem monitoring a process in Monit. Getting 'Execution failed'  Any Monit users about that could help?
[14:43] <tmwsiy> does ubuntu server and ubuntu desktop of the same version always have  the same kernel availible in the repositories?
[14:44] <nacc> tmwsiy: yes, they are the same repository.
[14:46] <obinoob> Hi I'm having a LOT of troubles with ajenti and python please check my gist in order to see output of apt-get -f install https://gist.github.com/fccpt/6ae2dcd3abcb646844d8a3052240ea97
[14:47] <obinoob> I need to clean up this mess I believe that I've damaged some important files...
[14:49] <nacc> obinoob: pycompile comes from python-minimal, is it installed?
[14:50] <obinoob> nacc: not sure that must be under /usr/bin ?
[14:50] <nacc> obinoob: is the python-minimal package installed? pycompile would be there, yees
[14:51] <obinoob> nacc: no there is nothing there besides python3.6   python3.6m
[14:51] <nacc> obinoob: what version of ubuntu?
[14:52] <obinoob> nacc: 14.04
[14:52] <nacc> obinoob: there is no python3.6 in 14.04
[14:52] <nacc> obinoob: so.. you installed one yourself?
[14:52] <obinoob> nacc: yes
[14:52] <nacc> obinoob: yeah, you probably broke your system :)
[14:52] <obinoob> nacc: pretty much
[14:52] <nacc> obinoob: did you also try to make 'python' run python3?
[14:52] <nicomachus> SkylakeMX: doesn't exit.
[14:52] <nicomachus> exist*
[14:53] <obinoob> nacc: I've python available
[14:53] <obinoob> nacc: Python 3.6.1 (default, Apr 22 2017, 00:00:00)
[14:53] <nicomachus> SkylakeMX: I have ~/.gimp-2.8 but there are no logs in there that I see
[14:53] <obinoob> so this is the output form apt-get install python-minimal https://gist.github.com/fccpt/d881e0de3f6ad2d81f398651c7147d7e
[14:54] <nacc> obinoob: 'python' should *never* return python 3 as the version
[14:54] <obinoob> nacc: ok so need to repair python install
[14:54] <obinoob> nacc: any tips?
[14:54] <nacc> obinoob: that's what 'python3' is for.
[14:55] <nacc> obinoob: reinstall your system? i honestly don't know what you did to it
[14:55] <obinoob> nacc: can't, really can't
[14:55] <nacc> obinoob: well, you broke your system pretty fundamentally
[14:56] <obinoob> I guess some ajenti install stupid script did it
[14:56] <tgm4883> obinoob: why can't you reinstall?
[14:57] <obinoob> now I'm screwed, far way and no boot image etc its a client server
[14:57] <obinoob> thats why :(
[14:57] <tgm4883> obinoob: wait, you ran an unknown install script on a client server?
[14:58] <dsh-> i got a new laptop and i would like to copy my ssh (~/.ssh) keys to my new laptop
[14:58] <obinoob> It wasn't unknown it from ajenti
[14:58] <dsh-> but if i copy them unto a usb stick i can't see the files like config, id_rsa etc
[14:58] <obinoob> it should be fine but no...
[14:59] <nacc> obinoob: so ... ask ajenti for support
[14:59] <dsh-> i mean i can't see them on my new laptop, i see them fine on my old one, even if i chmod the files
[14:59] <tgm4883> obinoob: then go through the install script and see what they did and reverse it, or call up ajenti for support, so don't use dumb admin panels
[14:59] <obinoob> tgm4883: lesson learned
[15:00] <obinoob> but now I doubt there is anything they can do
[15:02] <tgm4883> obinoob: I don't suppose it's as easy as just switching /usr/bin/python back to version 2
[15:02] <nacc> obinoob: did you run the script in a test bed or staging server first?
[15:03] <obinoob> nacc: well that was my stupid mistake I've a vm running here and I just supposed it should be ok
[15:04] <obinoob> tgm4883: I would appreciate some expert help ;)
[15:04] <tgm4883> obinoob: a VM? revert to snapshot?
[15:05] <obinoob> tgm4883: the VM is local the server is not
[15:06] <tgm4883> I wonder if you could just 'rm /usr/bin/python ; ln -s /usr/bin/python2.7 /usr/bin/python'
[15:07] <tgm4883> i mean it's a super shot in the dark, considering you have no idea what they did and I'm just going off that python is returning version 3 according to nacc
[15:07] <nacc> obinoob: right, so just to be sure `python -V` returns some 3.6 version?
[15:11] <obinoob> nacc: -su: /usr/lib/command-not-found: /usr/bin/python3: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[15:12] <tgm4883> um, that's not good
[15:24] <eyJhb> Anybody experienced a drop from 1 Gbit to 100 Mbps on intel ethernetcards? Using a Lenovo x230, just compiled the newest e1000e driver, and still only 100 mbit. Windows uses the gigabit just fine
[15:26] <akik> eyJhb: try to use ethtool to change the mode
[15:27] <eyJhb> akik, it says something like 'cannot advertise speed' when I try
[15:28] <eyJhb> Even though ethtool lists 1000 mbits as a option
[15:28] <akik> eyJhb: does it offer to disable autonegotiation?
[15:28] <eyJhb> Not as far as I know, how would I go about disabling that?
[15:28] <akik> although i somehow remember there would not be a need for autoneg on gigabit
[15:29] <akik> eyJhb: "autoneg off"
[15:29] <eyJhb> akik, this is the ethtool info - http://paste.ubuntu.com/24808521/
[15:30] <akik> eyJhb: that says the speed is 1000 Mb/s
[15:31] <eyJhb> Yeah, but it isn't working at those speeds
[15:31] <eyJhb> Only 100 Mb/s
[15:31] <akik> eyJhb: which protocol do you test with? there's a test software called iperf
[15:32] <eyJhb> iperf will get '935 Mbits/sec' when testing to the server. But when downloading files with eg. ftp locally, only around 100 Mb/s. Same machine on windows, around 1000 Mb/s
[15:33] <eyJhb> Which seems weird...
[15:33] <akik> megabits or megabytes with ftp?
[15:33] <eyJhb> Around 100 megabytes, around 1000 megabits
[15:34] <eyJhb> I think 115 megabytes/s
[15:34] <eyJhb> On windows
[15:34] <eyJhb> 10 megabytes/s (MAX) on Linux
[15:35] <eyJhb> 7.3 megabyte/s currently... As far as I remember, it has worked perfectly before!
[15:35] <Browser> Hello, I have plugged in a barcode reader but it doesn't get any port assigned when it is detected. dmesg | tail -n 10 shows the next lines: https://paste.linux.community/view/37bfdcad . Any ideas? Thanks
[15:36] <akik> eyJhb: sorry my mind is empty now :)
[15:36] <leftyfb> Browser: there's probably some driver/module you need to find and load for it
[15:36] <akik> eyJhb: maybe try another newer mainline kernel?
[15:37] <eyJhb> akik, might try that! But seems weird that it should make a difference
[15:37] <eyJhb> Currently on 4.4.0-79-generic
[15:37] <akik> eyJhb: yes, is it a newer or older machine?
[15:38] <eyJhb> Lenovo x230, so... In between
[15:38] <eyJhb> i7 3000 series, so.. Depends, but not old
[15:38] <akik> eyJhb: is local hard disk usage also slow? is it a hdd or ssd
[15:38] <eyJhb> SSD, I'll try to copy a file
[15:40] <eyJhb> 400 megabyte/s internally
[15:48] <Cyric> Guys i suspect i hit a bug... I have two pcs with ubuntu 16.04 and nvidia, where i use the CUDA drivers, for Tensorflow...
[15:48] <Cyric> the firstone work fine with kernel #54
[15:49] <area51pilot> does anyone know how to import an ubuntu server VM into Xenserver ... trying to figure out the fixup process
[15:49] <Cyric> the second one only work with #36.... when i upgrade to 52 53 or 54 , on the login
[15:49] <Cyric> page it will prevent me to login by throwing the login page again
[15:50] <tgm4883> Cyric: please don't use enter for punctuation. Put everything in one line
[15:52] <eyJhb> akik, any other ideas?
[15:53] <Cyric> tgm4883: ok sorry for that... anyway is not the first time that i see similar behaviour... it also happened with another pc and a similar configuration.. any kernel above 36 was not working with cuda... now i froze the kernel update...so i kind of solved it for me..but may be interesting for someone else..
[15:54] <akik> wyggler2: well not so many. maybe try with an older ubuntu release's live session. at least it's easy to test
[15:55] <area51pilot> Yes
[15:55] <akik> wyggler2: usually ftp has given me the best speeds so i won't even ask you to test sftp :)
[15:55] <akik> hmm those were for eyJhb but he left
[15:56] <v4169sgr> Folks, is it normal to take ~ 1 hour to transfer 5 GB via rsync -av from an internal SSD to an external HDD via USD 2.0 on 16.04?
[15:57] <kenrin> Sure,  upgrade to a usb 3 drive
[15:58] <v4169sgr> Thanks, is that limited by hardware? How can I tell which USB interface I am using?
[15:58] <v4169sgr> btw this is an external freecom 2 TB HDD formatted ext 4 with erxisting files etc on it
[15:59] <Cyric> v4169sgr: is it blue the usb connector?
[15:59] <kenrin> It varies,  but generally you won't get more than 20-30mb/s on usb 2
[15:59] <v4169sgr> @kenrin: I am seeing 1/10 of that
[15:59] <v4169sgr> on usb 2
[15:59] <kenrin> my usb 3 flash drive does about 120-140mb/s writes
[15:59] <Slart> v4169sgr: rsync has some options that will make it faster... but usb 2 is slow.. although not that slow
[16:00] <Slart> v4169sgr: do you get the same speeds when just transfering a 5GB file?
[16:00] <v4169sgr> yes I think I have big issues with IO perf on my machine
[16:00] <kenrin> It will be slower if it is a ton of small files
[16:00] <v4169sgr> I am transferring a mix of large and small files
[16:00] <Slart> v4169sgr: also, what is the filesystem on the usb stick?
[16:01] <v4169sgr> @Slart, not  a USB stick, an external HDD, formatted ext 4
[16:01] <v4169sgr> just for backups
[16:01] <Slart> v4169sgr: ah.. my bad, making assumptions =)
[16:01] <v4169sgr> this is my general isse:
[16:01] <v4169sgr> *issue:
[16:02] <v4169sgr> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2363087
[16:02] <v4169sgr> so I am seeing other effects too on my brand new 16.04 system with an SSD
[16:02] <v4169sgr> the slow file transfer is just one of them
[16:03] <JrWebDev> how do i change the time on ubuntu server.  i want to change it permanantly regardless of internet time
[16:03] <Slart> v4169sgr: tried running rsync without encryption? something like rsync -e "ssh -c arcfour"
[16:04] <v4169sgr> @Slart: I don't think "rsync -av" does encryption? Think you might mean "z" ?
[16:05] <v4169sgr> or compression for that matter lol
[16:07] <Slart> v4169sgr: hang on.. reading man pages.. it's quite possible you're right.. that was a suggestion I saw in a forum
[16:14] <rohan_flag0> JrWebDev: use `time`
[16:14] <Pici> rohan_flag0: the command is date, not time.
[16:14] <JrWebDev> ive used date and timectl and yet it automatically goes back to current date
[16:15] <kenrin> disable NTP then
[16:15] <JrWebDev> how
[16:15] <kenrin> timedatectl can do it
[16:16] <kenrin> set-ntp false,  iirc
[16:19] <Slart> "sudo service ntp stop" doesn't work?
[16:20] <rohan_flag0> Stop ntp and disable it from startup.
[16:20] <kenrin> probably does the same thing
[16:20] <rohan_flag0> Also yes date. Pici sorry. Got confused
[16:27] <JrWebDev> i get ntp.service not loaded
[16:27] <JrWebDev> im  using ubuntu server
[16:28] <JrWebDev> but i need to change the time so that i can test my web application
[16:29] <ioria> JrWebDev, no joy yet ?
[16:31] <JrWebDev> ioria, no not at all..no service was loaded..meaning it didnt exist
[16:31] <JrWebDev> systemd-time
[16:31] <JrWebDev> i forgot what the command was but yeah the one you gave me
[16:31] <ioria> JrWebDev, try systemd-timedated
[16:32] <JrWebDev> cant believe theres no easy solution...you would think developers all over the world would be changing time to test their apps idk
[16:32] <ioria> JrWebDev, dual boot ?
[16:33] <JrWebDev> virtualbox
[16:33] <JrWebDev> windows 10 host ubuntu-server 16.04.2 guest (virtualbox)
[16:35] <ioria> JrWebDev, if you have already disabled the services, no idea ... sorry
[16:36] <frozenrouter> Having a problem with cpu frequency while using multithreaded games on ubuntu. After a short time playing the game, the frequency on all cores drops to 800MHz, limiting gpu usage, and dropping framerate significantly. Any Advice?
[16:37] <JrWebDev> yeah ioria this is tuff
[16:40] <blkadder> JrWebDev The date command doesn't work?
[16:41] <blkadder> date --set "08 Jun 2017 HH:MM"
[16:58] <JrWebDev> blkadder, it works for like 4 seconds
[16:58] <JrWebDev> then goes straight back....probably because i have ubuntu server with a mate desktop environment...idk?
[16:58] <ioria> JrWebDev, try this: http://data.agaric.com/set-date-and-time-virtual-machine-independent-host-machine
[16:59] <JrWebDev> ioria, i did the same one
[16:59] <JrWebDev> well one just like it...let me just try again and see
[16:59] <frozenrouter> JrWebDev: Could a service be setting the time based on network, since it goes back after a small delay?
[16:59] <blkadder> Oh interesting it does that to me too in Virtualbox.
[16:59] <JrWebDev> i turned off the network adapter
[17:00] <JrWebDev> so no internet involved at all
[17:00] <JrWebDev> and changed it yet still
[17:00] <blkadder> JrWebDev, Did you try ioria's suggestion?
[17:00] <JrWebDev> might be because virtualbox is looking at my host's time but im not gonna adjust my host cause itll cause too much problems
[17:00] <JrWebDev> i did before... but ima try again
[17:01] <blkadder> I'm going to try it too.
[17:01] <blkadder> See what happens
[17:01] <JrWebDev> ok
[17:01] <Rektis> I upgraded from an Ubuntu 16.04 LTS to 16.10 non-LTS. Now my keyboard and mouse aren't working anymore. Someone told me it could be because of udev or xorg input drivers. How can I fix them, without being able to use keyboard and mouse?
[17:02] <frozenrouter> Rektis: Do you have an ssh server running on the computer you upgraded?
[17:02] <Rektis> No.
[17:02] <frozenrouter> Have you tried a spare keyboard/mouse?
[17:03] <ioria> Rektis, do you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? on in xorg.conf.d ?
[17:04] <JrWebDev> okay ill be back gotta reboot my vm
[17:04] <Rektis> It's a laptop (Thinkpad X200). I tried the integrated keyboard and the mouse pointer thingy, and a spare mouse. Nothing works on the upgraded Linux. I tested them on a Live Ubuntu and it worked there.
[17:04] <Rektis> ioria: I don't. In fact, I don't know what that is. It's my first time using Ubuntu.
[17:05] <frozenrouter> Rektis: You could use the live disk to edit a config file if somebody can let you know what to try editing
[17:05] <ioria> Rektis, we can try to update/upgrade via chroot  livecd
[17:05] <ioria> Rektis, a clean install whould be faster bw
[17:06] <frozenrouter> Or, you could try switching to a tty (Control-Alt-Fx), and see if that responds to keyboard input by switching
[17:06] <ioria> that would be great
[17:06] <ash_workz> why is inet_aton named such?
[17:07] <nacc> ash_workz: really a question for a C channel, right?
[17:07] <ash_workz> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[17:07] <ash_workz> but thank you
[17:08] <ioria> a > n
[17:08] <ash_workz> oh
[17:08] <ash_workz> ooooooh
[17:08] <ash_workz> OOOOOOOH
[17:08] <ash_workz> thank you :)
[17:10] <ioria> dot notation > net addrs
[17:10] <Rektis> I just finished preparing a live USB Ubuntu. I could either try fixing it or do a clean reinstall.
[17:11] <Rektis> frozenrouter: Control-Alt-Fx doesn't work.
[17:11] <ioria> Rektis, first, ask yourself why you want yakkety (eof july)
[17:11] <Rektis> ?
[17:12] <BluesKaj> end of life
[17:12] <ioria> Rektis,  yakkety ends in july
[17:12] <ioria> BluesKaj, tx
[17:12] <Rektis> 16.10 is Yakkety?
[17:12] <ioria> yep
[17:13] <Rektis> That was accidental. I tried installing the latest release. The USB stick now has 17.something.
[17:13] <CoderEurope> Zesty was a non-event after yakkety
[17:14] <BluesKaj> really?
[17:14] <ioria> Rektis,  maybe better a lts, with the yakkety hwe
[17:15] <ioria> Rektis, or play with not-lts , but for now, try zesty
[17:15] <Rektis> Okay, so reinstall it is.
[17:16] <Rektis> Don't LTS versions have outdated software?
[17:16] <blkadder> LTS is about stability.
[17:16] <blkadder> Not the latest versions.
[17:16] <Rektis> The LTS I tried worked, but I want the latest software.
[17:16] <kenrin> then LTS isn't for you
[17:16] <Rektis> Okay.
[17:18] <BluesKaj> new/latest isn't necesarily better, but to each his own
[17:19] <JrWebDev> same crap
[17:19] <JrWebDev> idk if its cause of my mate desktop environment
[17:19] <kenrin> Hey JrWebDev: I saw you gave additional information that you did not before
[17:19] <JrWebDev> maybe theres 2 date time thingys going
[17:19] <kenrin> Did you disable the vbox guest time ?
[17:20] <JrWebDev> according to what ioria gave me yes...i modified the .vbox file and added the extra line
[17:20] <blkadder> JrWebDev, Worked for me.
[17:20] <JrWebDev> whhaa
[17:20] <blkadder> I am guessing you didn't do it properly. :-)
[17:20] <JrWebDev> well let me see
[17:20] <blkadder> Where did you add it?
[17:20] <CoderEurope> Why does he want the *latest* software, please (again) ???
[17:20] <kenrin> the vboxmanage setextradata ?
[17:20] <blkadder> You need to add it in the proper section.
[17:20] <JrWebDev> into the <extra
[17:21] <JrWebDev> darn i gotta go back to the site
[17:21] <blkadder> Under the <ExtraData> section.
[17:22] <JrWebDev> i added it to <ExtraData>
[17:22] <kenrin> for the right VM name ?
[17:22] <JrWebDev> inbetween <ExtraData> and </ExtraData>
[17:22] <JrWebDev> yees its the proper one
[17:22] <blkadder> That's the proper place
[17:23] <JrWebDev> well now my VM guest is not a full clone
[17:23] <JrWebDev> its a linked clone not sure if that has anything to do with it
[17:23] <blkadder> Did you do it with Virtualbox and the VM off?
[17:23] <kenrin> Then set that same thing for whatever it is linked to
[17:23] <JrWebDev> no i didnt blkadder i did while it was on but then i rebooted
[17:23] <blkadder> JrWebDev, That's probably your problem.
[17:24] <blkadder> ** DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE.
[17:24] <blkadder> ** If you make changes to this file while any VirtualBox related application
[17:24] <blkadder> ** is running, your changes will be overwritten later, without taking effect.
[17:24] <JrWebDev> so i guess a total shutdown and then start it up again..its already in there
[17:24] <JrWebDev> thats weird, its still there
[17:24] <JrWebDev> okay let me try again
[17:24] <kenrin> I always thought you were supposed to use the command,  like it says here: https://www.forbesconrad.com/blog/virtualbox-linux-guest-incorrect-time-on-windows-host-solution
[17:25] <JrWebDev> let me try that too kenrin
[17:25] <blkadder> I think it is supposed to have the same effect.
[17:25] <JrWebDev> brb
[17:25] <JrWebDev> gotta reboot
[17:26] <blkadder> One you are directly editing the xml config file the other you use a command.
[17:26] <blkadder> Directly editing worked for me.
[17:26] <blkadder> But using a command provides less rope for you to hang yourself with. :-)
[17:28] <bender|> my esc key is damaged, and it's going to be a few weeks before I get a new keyboard, so is there a way to remap the esc key to print screen key in ubuntu?
[17:29] <kenrin> xmodmap
[17:30] <TBotNik> All: No help from #kubuntu so repeating here: Having ap-get install errors. Posted at: https://pastebin.com/eMZhYxBc Tried running all the fixes but they do nothing.  Any ideas here, what I need to fix? On Kubuntu 14.04, with server packages installed.
[17:34] <multifractal> Sorry for noob question. I know nothing about networking. I've been looking for an app to do "airdropping" of files between ubuntu/debian machines. But then I thought: can I simply scp them? Say I have 2 laptops in my wifi network running ubuntu, and I know their IP addresses. Can I just scp my files back and forth?
[17:34] <rdh> multifractal, yes.
[17:34] <BobKorn> bender|:  esc key is damaged ... remap the esc key to print screen ?
[17:36] <multifractal> rdh: lmao OK thanks. that's so much better than getting some stinking app.
[17:36] <rdh> multifractal, not difficult to set up your filemanger to use ssh, like scp, for easier usage.
[17:38] <multifractal> rdh: nautilus?
[17:40] <kenrin> or a nfs share
[17:40] <rdh> multifractal, if your using the default filemanager, yes.
[17:43] <frozenrouter> BobKorn: This web page seems to show how to bind keys in the way you need: http://www.linuxscrew.com/2008/09/15/faq-how-to-disableremap-a-keyboard-key-in-linux/
[17:44] <BobKorn> frozenrouter: thanks
[17:45] <frozenrouter> No Problem
[17:45] <Dimitri_> Hello Guys! I need some help. I was working with Linux in a virtual machine. (VirtualBox) since yesterday i see that message. if i run fsck some of my data gets deleted. how to save my data? http://i.imgur.com/FH2tdZT.png
[17:47] <Dimitri_> #elementary-os
[17:48] <DJones> !elementary | Dimitri_
[17:49] <DJones> Dimitri_: Because Elementary isn't an official release/flavour of Ubuntu, you'll need to ask their own support channel, its not supported in here
[17:49] <Dimitri_> DJones, but its still ubuntu
[17:50] <Dimitri_> DJones, just imagine u had the same problem with your ubuntu. what would you do? or at least try to do
[17:50] <DJones> Dimitri_: Not quite, its based on Ubuntu (in the same way that Ubuntu is based on Debian), but its not supported by the Ubuntu developers because its not known what changes the Elementary people make from standard
[17:50] <tgm4883> if it's still ubuntu, why didn't you just install ubuntu?
[17:50] <Dimitri_> tgm4883, i dont like the interface
[17:51] <DJones> Dimitri_: I use Ubuntu, so I'd ask here, if I used Elementary, I'd ask in their support channel
[17:51] <kenrin> or at least try ##linux
[17:51] <tgm4883> Dimitri_: there's lots of interfaces for ubuntu. You should definitely ask in the elementary channel though since you're running that
[17:53] <Dimitri_> tgm4883, but i am not even in the interface its preload
[17:54] <tgm4883> Dimitri_: you're right, and your root partition (which is elementary) has errors.
[17:55] <Dimitri_> tgn4883, is there any linux rescue disc which can save data from linux based partitions?
[17:56] <Dimitri_> tgn4883, im anyway thinking bout switching to xubuntu
[17:56] <tgm4883> !tab | Dimitri_
[17:58] <Dimitri_> anyone any idea how to savelinux based partitions?
[17:59] <tufy3> Hi. Does anyone know a video editor which supports importing subtitles?
[18:01] <CoderEurope> tufy3, have you tried omgubuntu for video-editors ?
[18:02] <tufy3> CoderEurope: most video editors don't support subtitles and it's hard to install them one-by-one to see if they support it
[18:02] <CoderEurope> tufy3, you dont know unless you try omgubuntu
[18:03] <tufy3> CoderEurope: ok I'll
[18:03] <rdh> Dimitri_, any livecd linux will allow you to mount your partition and save data you need.
[18:04] <Dimitri_> rdh, i hope so
[18:06] <Dimitri_> rdh, how to do that?
[18:07] <crazycoder> hello
[18:08] <crazycoder> how can i convert mkv in dvd ?
[18:10] <kenrin> mkv is a container
[18:10] <kenrin> So you won't be converting anything with that
[18:12] <kenrin> dvd is optical media,  so you won't be converting anything there either..
[18:12] <rdh> Dimitri_, use the elementary image, if it has a 'try without install', and access your partition from there.
[18:18] <Rektis> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 17.04 from an USB stick, but get an error saying that "GRUB couldn't be installed on install/dev/dm-0" and that it's a fatal error.
[18:19] <YankDownUnder> Rektis, It appears as though the install is trying to install "grub" on something other than /dev/sda
[18:20] <kenrin> Looks like the fakeraid thing
[18:20] <YankDownUnder> Ah yep.
[18:21] <Rektis> When I try to let it install on /dev/sda and click "OK", nothing happens.
[18:21] <YankDownUnder> key to this error is: "install/dev/dm-0"
[18:22] <kenrin> Might need to install it to /dev/mapper/whatever
[18:22] <kenrin> or either make a separate boot/EFI outside of the fakeraid.  Not sure,  never used that
[18:23] <Rektis> YankDownUnder: It doesn't even let me press "OK" for that.
[18:23] <YankDownUnder> Rektis, Did you do "automatic partitioning" or did you manually do the partitioning...?
[18:24] <Rektis> Automatic.
[18:24] <YankDownUnder> Rektis, Since ya ain't got nothing to lose, go for the "manual" partitioning...
[18:24] <Rektis> I also selected LVM, if that matters.
[18:25] <blkadder> Rektis, That's where the dm-0 comes from.
[18:25] <Rektis> It also doesn't let me abort the installation.
[18:25] <YankDownUnder> Rektis, "To each his own" - that being said, do you really require LVM, or was it just something to give a whirl?
[18:26] <Rektis> The latter, I don't need it.
[18:27] <Rektis> But installing it worked for the LTS version I installed earlier.
[18:27] <YankDownUnder> Rektis, You can attempt to kill the install by trying: CTRL+ALT+F1 => and then typing: sudo reboot
[18:27] <YankDownUnder> Rektis, 17.04 is still NEW...still buggy...
[18:28] <Rektis> It wants me to login.
[18:28] <blkadder> "I want the latest software." :-)
[18:29] <YankDownUnder> Rektis, Should be able to just use "ubuntu" as the username (if I remember correctly)
[18:30] <Rektis> Works.
[18:31] <Rektis> If I used an LTS instead, how outdated would my programs be? Is that even tied anymore?
[18:32] <ioria> Rektis, tied to what ?
[18:32] <ioria> !latest | Rektis
[18:33] <Rektis> ioria: Are the versions of programs you can get still tied to what version of Ubuntu you use?
[18:33] <blkadder> Unless you want to roll your own, yes.
[18:33] <YankDownUnder> Rektis, LTS => Long Term Support. LONG term support.
[18:33] <blkadder> And if you roll your own, you are very much on your own.
[18:34] <ioria> Rektis,  there are 'upstream' versions and the ubuntu versions (adapted and checked)
[18:34] <blkadder> Rektis, You need to understand what it is that you want to accomplish with what software.
[18:35] <Rektis> Basically, I just want the 1.5 versions of the software Freeplane, but packages for LTS Ubuntu only have 1.3 versions, which are missing features I need.
[18:36] <blkadder> https://sourceforge.net/projects/freeplane/files/Ubuntu-16.04-backport/
[18:39] <ioria> Rektis, on zesty, freeplane is 1.5 ... let's install zesty, then
[18:40] <blkadder> Or you can use the backport that they provided. :-)
[18:41] <Rektis> blkadder: Do backports generally exist? Seeing as only 9 people downloaded it, doesn't seem like many people use them, which would lead to people rarely making them.
[18:42] <ioria> Rektis, issue with lvm ? how did you make the iso ? have you md5sum the iso ?  are you connected while installing  (should be optional,  btw) ?
[18:42] <blkadder> Rektis, It will depend on the software.
[18:51] <Rektis> ioria: md5sums overlap and I am connected to the internet while installing. I downloaded the ISO from the official ubuntu site and installed them on an USB stick with the Universal USB stick installer thingy.
[18:56] <ioria> Rektis, and not working ? (i mean stuck at grub)
[18:57] <Rektis> Yes. I get an error at installing GRUB.
[18:57] <ioria> Rektis, can you try without lvm selected ?
[18:58] <Rektis> I'm trying, but it doesn't even let me start right now. Maybe it's still downloading stuff.
[18:58] <ioria> Rektis, single boot ? nothing on it anymore ?
[18:59] <Rektis> Yes, single boot. What do you mean by "nothing on it"? There's the scraps of the LTS version and all the times I failed installing 17.04, I guess.
[19:00] <ioria> Rektis, did you choose 'erase disk and install ubuntu' ?
[19:00] <Rektis> Yes.
[19:00] <Dimitri_> What to do if linux says that a document must be cleaned ( i cant access that document)
[19:00] <kenrin> cleaned?  what kind of document?
[19:00] <ioria> Rektis, can you reboot and start again the installation ?
[19:01] <Rektis> I'll try.
[19:01] <Dimitri_> kenrin, its a py file. yeah its the german translation.
[19:01] <ioria> Rektis, btw, i suggest 'rufus' for the iso
[19:02] <Rektis> Thanks.
[19:02] <ioria> Rektis, https://rufus.akeo.ie/?locale=nl_nl
[19:03] <kenrin> So python?  Might want to try in #python or ##programming
[19:04] <Dimitri_> kenrin, i cant access that file it isntthere in the files manager. wait i gonna check out the english trainslation
[19:06] <SummerRain> How do i change which OS is default in dual boot? and how do I reduce the choose time?
[19:06] <ioria> os-reboot
[19:07] <SummerRain> i remember there was some file to edit
[19:07] <SummerRain> grub or such
[19:07] <kenrin> Depends what bootloader you got
[19:07] <SummerRain> well i just installed lubuntu 17.04
[19:08] <kenrin> So probably /etc/default/grub
[19:10] <Bashing-om> !grub | SummerRain
[19:11] <SummerRain> I just want to edit the file to pick the default OS
[19:11] <SummerRain> gksu gedit didnt work
[19:11] <Dimitri_> kenrin, ls: cannot access 'main.py' . structure needs cleaning
[19:12] <kenrin> Oh,  that is a file system issue.  Will need to unmount and fsck it
[19:13] <Dimitri_> kenrin, if i fsck it, it will delete main.py
[19:13] <Dimitri_> kenrin, in fact its a virtual device so no real sector faults can appear
[19:14] <Bashing-om> SummerRain: The file manager in lubuntu - I think - is PCManFM : confirm : ' dpkg -l PCManFM ' .
[19:14] <SummerRain> No package found
[19:15] <acetakwas> I have uninstalled Apache completely, but I see a page that ssays: "Apache2 Ubuntu Default Page"
[19:16] <kenrin> Recovering files with FS errors is a bit over my head.  Best bet is to let it delete on fsck and re-get the main.py from whatever package or from your backups
[19:16] <ioria> SummerRain, dpkg -l pcmanfm
[19:16] <SummerRain> i opened the grub file
[19:16] <genii> acetakwas: Next time use -purge
[19:16] <leftyfb> acetakwas: the files probably stick around. Just delete them
[19:16] <SummerRain> However, it says GRUB_DEFAULT = 0
[19:16] <acetakwas> I have done these:
[19:17] <ioria> SummerRain, set to 1, sudo update-grub
[19:17] <acetakwas> apt remove --purge apache*
[19:17] <acetakwas> autoremove; autoclean
[19:17] <acetakwas> ALl that stuff
[19:17] <acetakwas> I have done: rm -rf /etc/apache
[19:17] <acetakwas> rm -rf /usr/bin/apache
[19:17] <acetakwas> Sdtill Apache's page comes up
[19:17] <SummerRain> Is there anyway to change the keyboard layout??? my keyboard is messed up!
[19:18] <leftyfb> acetakwas: /var/www/html/
[19:18] <Bashing-om> SummerRain: If you are running (l)ubuntu release 17.04 it is there : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZestyZapus/ReleaseNotes/Lubuntu . Check spelling and letter case .
[19:18] <SummerRain> i picked pt-br , but its actually pt-br abnt-2 that i should have.
[19:18] <acetakwas> leftyfb::  What do with that? Delete it?
[19:18] <leftyfb> acetakwas: that's where the index file is and docs I think. Are you replacing apache with some other web server?
[19:19] <acetakwas> leftyfb::  Yes. NGINX. I am troubleshooting NGINX
[19:19] <acetakwas> I did not install Apache
[19:20] <acetakwas> Just obiterating it.
[19:20] <acetakwas> s/obiterating/obliterating
[19:20] <leftyfb> acetakwas: if you're seeing those files, then nginx is working. Unless apache is still running and nginx isn't
[19:20] <SummerRain> @ioria ty
[19:20] <Bashing-om> SummerRain: Try ' sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration ' to remap the keyboard .
[19:20] <SummerRain> going to try  it now.
[19:20] <acetakwas> leftyfb::  There is currently no web server installed.
[19:20] <leftyfb> acetakwas: sudo lsof -i :80
[19:21] <leftyfb> acetakwas: sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2
[19:22] <SummerRain> GRUB_DEFAULT=1 didnt work
[19:22] <SummerRain> it picked the next in the list.. is there anyway, i could use a String there
[19:23] <acetakwas> leftyfb::  Something surprising based on your command
[19:23] <ioria> SummerRain,  can you explain again your issue , then ?
[19:23] <leftyfb> acetakwas: apache2 was still running in memory?
[19:23] <acetakwas> I have also uninstalled NGINX, but the service still starts and stops successfully
[19:23] <SummerRain> @ioria i want windows 7 to be the default OS in grub loader
[19:23] <SummerRain> DOnt kill me for that, please.
[19:23] <acetakwas> Do I need to reboot the server?
[19:23] <leftyfb> acetakwas: sudo apt-get remove --purge nginx
[19:23] <acetakwas> Done that
[19:24] <leftyfb> with purge?
[19:24] <acetakwas> The service still starts and stops
[19:24] <leftyfb> acetakwas: sudo apt-get remove --purge nginx* apache2*
[19:24] <acetakwas> leftyfb::  By default I always run apt-get remove with purge
[19:24] <acetakwas> leftyfb::  Done that.
[19:24] <leftyfb> acetakwas: what version of ubuntu?
[19:25] <acetakwas> 16.04
[19:25] <ioria> SummerRain,  how is set 'windows' in  the grub menu ? as 2° choise ?
[19:25] <SummerRain> @ioria as the default choice
[19:25] <SummerRain> @ioria currently w7 is the last in the list
[19:25] <SummerRain> because theres memtest and ubuntu advanced options in the middle..
[19:25] <ioria> SummerRain,  last how ? 2° ? or what ?
[19:26] <Rektis> ioria: Got the GRUB-error again, without installing LVM.
[19:26] <leftyfb> acetakwas: if you used purge and wildcard and they're still around, then something was customized/changed or broken
[19:26] <ioria> SummerRain,  3°, 4°
[19:26] <SummerRain> @ioria,  i didnt count
[19:26] <ioria> SummerRain,  count it
[19:26] <SummerRain> however, i remember last time, i wrote a string on it
[19:26] <SummerRain> cant i do that?
[19:27] <ioria> Rektis, re-do the stick with rufus ...
[19:27] <ioria> Rektis, were you using raid ?
[19:29] <acetakwas> leftyfb::  https://paste.ofcode.org/PJbMhEzemXTK5vbQ9etQby
[19:29] <acetakwas> I ran locate nginx
[19:29] <leftyfb> it's still there
[19:30] <leftyfb> did you compile from source?
[19:30] <leftyfb> oh wait
[19:30] <leftyfb> acetakwas: sudo updatedb ; locate nginx
[19:30] <acetakwas> leftyfb::  My bad. I should have done that.
[19:33] <acetakwas> leftyfb::  Same thing: https://paste.ofcode.org/pJVLWD4F8BnftDNegKrXV8
[19:33] <acetakwas> I did not compile from source.
[19:33] <acetakwas> I only have php and python setup on the server
[19:33] <acetakwas> It's an AWS instance.
[19:33] <leftyfb> acetakwas: sudo apt-get remove --purge nginx*
[19:34] <leftyfb> run it again if you say you have already
[19:34] <acetakwas> Package 'nginx' is not installed, so not removed
[19:34] <acetakwas> leftyfb::  ^
[19:34] <acetakwas> That's the most informative line from the result.
[19:35] <leftyfb> then I don't know what you did to keep all the files there even though you removed it
[19:35] <leftyfb> that's not how it's supposed to work
[19:35] <leftyfb> and I've never seen that before
[19:35] <acetakwas> Wow
[19:35] <acetakwas> Thanks
[19:36] <acetakwas> I'll have to keep troubleshooting.
[19:36] <acetakwas> Nothing was done on the serve though, it's a fresh instance.
[19:36] <acetakwas> Only the PHP always returns blank pages.
[19:36] <acetakwas> And that's all I am trying to get fixed.
[19:37] <leftyfb> if it's a fresh instance and you're having this much trouble with it, then it's probably best to wipe it and start over
[19:50] <JrWebDev> nothing!
[19:51] <JrWebDev> i did it all.  and stil cant change the time
[19:51] <JrWebDev> just keeps going back
[19:51] <JrWebDev> i need a nuke button
[19:53] <wyseguy> looking at buying a laptop. I have heard thinkpads are the best for linux support and have had my eye on this one... any thoughts on picking a different model? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-laptop-T510-Intel-Core-i5-15-6-HD-WebCam-DVDRW-128GB-SSD-Pro-/401274559064?hash=item5d6dd3da58:g:NSYAAOSw3v5Ynnv6#viTabs_0
[19:54] <oerheks> JrWebDev, sounds like this http://www.webupd8.org/2014/09/dual-boot-fix-time-differences-between.html
[19:54] <CoderEurope> wyseguy, Whats your budget ?
[19:54] <wyseguy> CoderEurope, i would like to stay under 500
[19:54] <oerheks> or http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2016/05/time-differences-ubuntu-1604-windows-10/
[19:54] <CoderEurope> wyseguy, http://bit.ly/System76ebay
[19:55] <wyseguy> CoderEurope, the things that matter to me are having an ethernet port, good looking screen, long battery, works perfect with linux, percision trackpad input
[19:55] <jer> can i blacklist a version in apt? ie., there's an erlang 20.0rc2 package and i don't want to be notified of any updates with 20.0rc in them
[19:56] <CoderEurope> wyseguy, system76 is yor man.
[19:56] <yarddog> what is the command to install bogofilter? it asks for more info than apt-get install bogfilter
[19:56] <CoderEurope> wyseguy, get that ?
[19:57] <wyseguy> CoderEurope, ya looking into it
[19:57] <CoderEurope> what timezone are you in wyseguy ?
[19:57] <Bashing-om> !pinning | jer
[19:57] <jer> Bashing-om, thanks
[19:57] <wyseguy> CoderEurope, pst
[19:58] <Bashing-om> jer: :)
[19:58] <kenrin> Isn't system76 just rebranded clevos ?
[19:58] <CoderEurope> wyseguy, so system76 are your local guys then. good luck !
[19:59] <CoderEurope> kenrin, is that based on XPirience ? Do you have a system76 laptop ?
[19:59] <kenrin> Someone recommended one a while back and when I looked into it the original clevos were the same unit and cheaper
[20:00] <CoderEurope> kenrin, They've changed
[20:00] <choki> hi
[20:00] <CoderEurope> kenrin, http://s76.co/galago
[20:02] <wyseguy> CoderEurope, thanks, any flagship models, or tried and true? I typically dont buy new
[20:02] <tgm4883> CoderEurope: how is that changed?
[20:04] <JrWebDev> OERIAS, ill lok into it
[20:05] <kenrin> CoderEurope: So that unit is just a rebranded N130BU Clevo with some locked down BIOS ?
[20:05] <CoderEurope> tgm4883, I just know - theres one on the wayz : https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/1g9xhi/ubuntu_ultrabook_141_galago_ultrapro_system_76/?ref=search_posts
[20:05] <CoderEurope> kenrin, no !
[20:05] <kenrin> Seems like it
[20:05] <CoderEurope> stop jhating an america made company, please !
[20:06] <CoderEurope> kenrin, you didn't answer my question ?
[20:06] <tgm4883> Just trust you, got it
[20:06] <CoderEurope> kenrin, have you a galago Pro ?
[20:06] <kenrin> Why would I buy a rebranded unit,  I could just get a N130BU
[20:07] <CoderEurope> kenrin, therefore you have no frame of reference for an opinion , dude - you're irrelevant to the system76 debate !
[20:07] <tgm4883> lol
[20:07] <kenrin> I'm just asking what is different?
[20:08] <tgm4883> none of this is support, can we move it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:08] <CoderEurope> kenrin, I'd buy you one,but you seem jewish.
[20:08] <wyseguy> im on a chromebook 2 with galliumos, works perfect, just no ethernet port, have to use a usb dongle
[20:08] <wyseguy> lol
[20:08] <CoderEurope> okay #ubuntu-offtopic it is.
[20:09] <kenrin> Lets take it to ##hardware and get real opinions
[20:09] <Rektis> ioria: It works now. Thank you so much!
[20:33] <old1101> how can I install this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glew/2.0.0-3 on linux mint?
[20:33] <Bashing-om> !mint | old1101
[20:35] <old1101> okay, I just assumed it was a apt/ppa problem
[20:51] <eyJhb> Hello, I'm experiencing a very weird issues. Suddenly my download speed with ftp is around 5-6 MB/s, but my upload speed is 115 MB/s. If I switch to windows, both upload and download are 115 MB/s.. Using Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS with 4.4.0-79-generic, Intel 82579LM with the latest compiled drivers from intel
[20:51] <eyJhb> iperf yields same results
[20:52] <eyJhb> Tested cables, different computers (both ubuntu with a intel gigabit ethernet card and e1000e driver)
[21:00] <dash> howdy. trying to get an old LTS (precise) system onto xenial and hitting a couple small bumps. First off, anybody know of a convenient fix for the multitude of "insserv" warning messages and initctl trying to connect to upstart?
[21:02] <nacc> dash: so you first upgraded 12.04 to 14.04, right?
[21:02] <dash> nacc: of course not, i'm an expert
[21:02] <dash> (guilty as charged, I didn't. :)
[21:03] <dash> I don't mind reverse-engineering some do-release-upgrade stuff if needed. I've just never had to
[21:03] <nacc> dash: well, that's not a supported path (12.04 -> 16.04) :)
[21:04] <dash> nacc: I know, hence my asking on IRC about it :-p
[21:04] <nacc> dash: meaning, you probably have misssed all the packages that try to fix this transition already
[21:04] <dash> Sure.
[21:04] <phormat> hi. i googled for the list of default software included with ubuntu 16.04 lts (64-bit), but could not find any. as far as i remember there must be LAMP included by default, but there is none of it in .manifest. where's the list? (url)
[21:04] <nacc> phormat: do you mean ubuntu server? ubuntu itself (desktop) does not have a LAMP included by default. And LAMP is not *installed* by default even on server.
[21:05] <phormat> desktop
[21:05] <dash> nacc: Suggestions for what to look at for that?
[21:05] <nacc> phormat: then i have no idea what you mean by 'included' by default
[21:05] <nacc> dash: i'm not sure
[21:06] <dash> nacc: OK
[21:07] <dash> That's just an annoyance, the real problem I'm having is that it drops to initramfs at boot because it doesn't detect the LVM vg
[21:07] <dash> 'vgchange -a' at the initramfs shell fixes it, but I'm curious what happened there
[21:07] <nacc> dash: probably upstart -> systemd transition. which might again have been fixed/caught by 12.04 -> 14.04 -> 16.04
[21:08] <dash> nacc: yes yes obviously
[21:12] <nacc> dash: is this a server or desktop?
[21:13] <dash> nacc: little bit of both
[21:13] <eyJhb> Anyone interested, newest e1000e has a bug in it...
[21:13] <phormat> nacc: so, what you're saying is http://releases.ubuntu.com/xenial/ubuntu-16.04.2-desktop-amd64.manifest is the correct list of default software for ubuntu desktop 16.04 lts 64-bit and there is no LAMP in Ubuntu Desktop by default?
[21:13] <nacc> dash: which makes it a desktop :)
[21:13] <dash> nacc: sure ;)
[21:13] <nacc> dash: if it was a pure server, you could probably remove upstart
[21:13] <nacc> dash: but a desktop will break (upstart manages the sessions, iirc)
[21:13] <dash> nacc: yeah i was seeing that, greeter depends on upstart
[21:13] <dash> which is pretty special, i gotta say
[21:13] <nacc> phormat: that's just the list of packages on the iso
[21:14] <nacc> phormat: none of that is the 'default software'
[21:14] <phormat> ok
[21:14] <nacc> phormat: and there is *absolutely* not a LAMP configuration on a desktop
[21:14] <nacc> phormat: that would be a terrible desktop
[21:14] <nacc> phormat: terrible default desktop
[21:14] <dash> LAMP stands for lighttpd, angular, mongodb, python... right?
[21:15] <nacc> dash: trolling?
[21:15] <dash> nacc: it would only be trolling if i thought anyone would take that seriously
[21:15] <nacc> dash: ok :)
[21:15] <kenrin> In this channel people will
[21:16] <tmuwa> exit
[21:16] <nacc> dash: right, it's trolling for this channel, so please don't :)
[21:16] <phormat> nacc: so, i guess i have to / can use some terminal command to generate a list of software that i installed with the OS?
[21:17] <dash> nacc: right, sorry. i used to op in a high traffic channel and oughta know better
[21:17] <Guest47280> g
[21:18] <nacc> phormat: i really don't follow yet whatyou're after. What you have installed on your instance is unrelated to what is installed by default (and you never said clearly you mean installed or available to desktop)
[21:18] <nacc> phormat: so maybe state what are you trying to do?
[21:18] <nacc> dash: np
[21:18] <dash> nacc: if i was trolling i'd be asking ubuntu questions in ##ubnt ;-)
[21:23] <phormat> nacc: it's possible i used that web interface to compile the installation image and included LAMP. would dpkg --get-selected give me the list of software i installed together with the OS? i was initially after the list of default software included with Ubuntu Desktop 16.04 lts, but i can't find any.
[21:26] <nacc> phormat: 'compile the installation image'? it's possible you did this? What do you mean??
[21:26] <nacc> phormat: there is no such flag to dpkg
[21:26] <nacc> phormat: 'default software included' is still very unclear to me. Do you mean *installed* by default? Or *available* on the ISO?
[21:27] <phormat> nacc: ok, let's say i mean "available on the ISO".
[21:28] <nacc> phormat: that's the list you found
[21:28] <nacc> phormat: i believe
[21:31] <GWM> Hi, I recently installed a variant of Ubuntu in a UEFI/GPT dual boot with Windows scenario, and when I booted windows for the first time it re-wrote the bootloader and removed GRUB, how do I get it back?
[21:44] <tomreyn> !dualboot | GWM
[21:44] <tomreyn> ^ for a general overview of how to set it up properly
[21:45] <tomreyn> !recoveringgrub | GWM for now
[21:45] <EriC^^> GWM: try to get the run time boot menu of the pc and choose ubuntu, then when it boots type "sudo grub-install"
[21:47] <phormat> nacc: maybe i did get through all this myself: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-linux-apache-mysql-php-lamp-stack-on-ubuntu-16-04
[21:48] <phormat> it was a while ago. i was almost sure LAMP was there by default with the Desktop.
[21:50] <nacc> phormat: none of that is about the ISO or about what is "there by default" (again, you're not being specific enough in those terms)
[21:50] <phormat> sorry
[21:50] <nacc> phormat: i 100% guarantee you that no ubuntu desktop has apache installed by default
[21:50] <phormat> ok. great.
[21:50] <phormat> thanks
[21:50] <nacc> phormat: ubuntu server also does not, but is present on the server iso itself
[21:53] <phormat> of course, sir
[21:58] <TBotNik> All: Repeating: Having ap-get install errors. Posted at: https://pastebin.com/eMZhYxBc Tried running all the fixes but they do nothing.  Any ideas here, what I need to fix? On Kubuntu 14.04, with server packages installed.
[22:00] <tomreyn> TBotNik: (sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-cache policy) | pastebinit
[22:01] <tomreyn> TBotNik: actually, show "apt-get -f install" as well
[22:05] <TBotNik> tomreyn: It's running but pastebinit is not installed and can not because of errors.  Will pipe to text file and then paste.
[22:05] <tomreyn> TBotNik: use termbin.com with netcat then
[22:07] <tomreyn> TBotNik:  (sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-cache policy; sudo apt-get -f install) | nc termbin.com 9999
[22:08] <multifractal> I'm trying to set up a simple pipeline for file sharing within my home wifi network. I scp'd a jpeg image over from my ubuntu 16.04 laptop to my friend's macbook air. It transferred OK, but when we opened it up on the macbook it was just a bunch of trippy colours. Why did it get corrupted?
[22:09] <JustFixMyWifi> I can't get my keyboard right under lubuntu.
[22:09] <JustFixMyWifi> The mapping is correct, but no ãâéè , etc..
[22:09] <tomreyn> multifractal: did it actually get corrupted during transfer? check file sizes (in bytes) and run sha256sum on the file on both ends
[22:10] <TBotNik> tomreyn: Never finishes, always aborts, so no output, since never reaches the capture/pipe part of the cmd
[22:13] <tomreyn> TBotNik: okay, so i guess you do need to copy and paste then
[22:16] <jost> Hi! I have added a VPN connection using the network manager, and it's working, I can access addresses on the remote network. But for some reason, DNS is not working. When using `dig @<IP of internal DNS server> <domain>`, everything looks fine - but when just using `dig <domain>`, it resolves to a public IP. I want the private IP. What do I need to configure to make this work? I want to prefer local (= in 192.168.0.0/16) DNS addresses.
[22:16] <jost> I have XUbuntu 17.04, with dnsmasq installed
[22:16] <multifractal> tomreyn: oh actually they have the same MD5 signature
[22:20] <multifractal> since they have the same md5sum, why would the jpeg not display correctly on the mac?
[22:21] <tomreyn> multifractal: it's a matter of the image data processor (file viewer) then.
[22:23] <tomreyn> multifractal: two options: either the file is a correctly formatted image file, and the OS X viewer fails to properly interpret it (software bug or lacking feature), or it's a broken file originally and the linux viewer just happens to have error correction allowing it to overcome the corruption.
[22:23] <multifractal> tomreyn: yes thanks, i just opened it in chrome, rather than the default image viewer, and it displayed correctly.
[22:26] <tomreyn> maybe load it in gimp and export (not 'save') it from there, this should fix invalid data, if any. it may also result in loss of quality (if the input format is a lossful compression).
[22:28] <TBotNik> tomreyn: Output dumped at: https://pastebin.com/eWXj3H2M
[22:29] <faugusztin> jost: have you tried filling out DNS servers and search domains ? https://i.stack.imgur.com/wzoLH.png
[22:31] <faugusztin> jost: you might be as well hit by bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-openvpn/+bug/1169437
[22:31] <faugusztin> jost: look at #42 and #44 for possible fixes if needed
[22:32] <tomreyn> TBotNik: that's a lot of third party repositories. the webmin ones are for debian sarge, which is not ubuntu trusty.
[22:32] <tomreyn> and the drbl.sourceforge.net just say "stable", which can be anything.
[22:33] <TBotNik> tomreyn: Think I found out this was all coming from my upgrade to mysql 5.7, but not sure!
[22:34] <tomreyn> according to apt-get -f install you have these package states: "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 316 not upgraded."
[22:35] <harovali> hi, is ther a way to make the thunderbird attach file  dialog look richer in options, looking like the nautilus navigation file tool ?
[22:36] <harovali> in particular i'm looking for the magnifying glass button
[22:36] <harovali> I tried the ubuntu-tweak too, but can modify the file attach window
[22:36] <harovali> s/can/cannot/
[22:36] <tomreyn> TBotNik: the netbeans IDE package is not really related to gir1.2-rb-3.0, but gir1.2-rb-3.0 is causing issues during the netbeans installation you attempted earlier.
[22:40] <TBotNik> tomreyn: Gonna knock out the dbrl as that is suppose to install and run clonezilla, which I have never gotten to work on any of the 200+ machines I run.  I know i'm not twisting my mouth right, but still don't need it if not gonna work!
[22:44] <TBotNik> tomreyn: Rebooting!
[23:34] <quidnunc> Why does my analog audio output not show up (and not work) in pavucontrol until I plug in my headphones?
[23:39] <SomeJuan> i installed ubuntu 16.04.2 the other day and specified during the installation to log into unity automatically without having to go through a display manager
[23:39] <JustFixMyWifi> Can someone help me fix the accentuation issue? The mapping is right but I can't get them done right.
[23:39] <SomeJuan> no I installed kubuntu and want it to automatically log me into kde but not sure how
[23:39] <SomeJuan> *now
[23:41] <kenrin> under kde settings login screen there should be a setting
[23:41] <SomeJuan> problem is, i'm in unity (not kde)
[23:41] <kenrin> What displaymanager ?
[23:41] <kenrin> gdm ?
[23:42] <SomeJuan> lightdm but i don't even get there
[23:42] <SomeJuan> my installation takes me right into the unity windows environment without having to login
[23:43] <kenrin> So disable the unity autologin first
[23:43] <SomeJuan> i can look around but not sure where to go to do that
[23:43] <kenrin> should be under settings > users
[23:44] <SomeJuan> ok, let me take a look real fast
[23:46] <SomeJuan> thanks, i'm in kde now
[23:46] <SomeJuan> really appreciate it kenrin
[23:46] <SomeJuan> have a good one guys
[23:47] <kenrin> Pretty sure that guy wasn't using lightdm
[23:47] <kenrin> but whatever
[23:48] <dr_horrible> lol