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ddaughtreyHow do I check how much of my swap file is being used? If that's an actual question.00:29
ddaughtreyIt shouldn't be 0 right?00:30
hollafree -m00:32
hollait's okay when it's zero - that means you have enough ram installed00:32
ddaughtreyOk yeah I see that I have a 6GB swap available.00:38
ddaughtreyWhen I first installed xubuntu everything was running great and it was very responsive.00:39
ddaughtreyBut now it is very, very sluggish. Like it's constantly trying to do something. the laptop I'm using is only a few years old.00:39
hollatop00:42
hollagives you a hint about what's going on00:42
ddaughtreyOk is there something I should be looking for?00:44
hollaload of course and then wa00:45
ddaughtreyLoad doesn't look terrible, from what I can tell. And the highest wa got while watching it was 5.100:47
ddaughtreyFirefox looks to be a bit aggressive, but other than that everything looks normal.00:48
hollawell 5.1 is a bit high imho for a single user pc00:48
ddaughtreyI just stopped top and it was at 10.1...00:49
hollawa means that some process wants to write to your disc, but has to wait00:49
hollait should be around 0 all or most of the time00:50
hollamaybe you could run 'smartclt'?00:50
ddaughtrey...if it won't run smartclt I should install that right? (I'm totally experienced and know what's going on)00:52
holla???00:52
hollawell with a laptop 'a few yrs old' i thought maybe it's about time for a new hdd00:53
ddaughtreysmartclt returns command not found00:53
hollabut please don't panic - that's just one possiblity00:53
hollasmartmon-tools00:53
hollait's for testing your hdd00:54
ddaughtreyIt seems I need to install smartmontools so I'm doing that.00:55
hollait's useful anyway - good to have00:58
hollado you have iotop installed?00:59
ddaughtreyholla: I don't think so. I think someone had told me to install an equivalent, but I am tired and can't remember what it is.01:06
hollacome back tomorrow01:07
ddaughtreyYeah I'll be back. I was able to run smartctl though01:10
hollado the long run ;)01:10
hollasmartctl -t long /dev/sda <- or whatever01:10
ddaughtreyHah 195 minutes to complete?!01:14
ddaughtreyThey took the word long seriously01:15
lolpop-W:The repository 'http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu apt/stable/ Release' does not have a Release file., W:Data from such a repository can't be authenticated and is therefore potentially dangerous to use., W:See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details., E:Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/apt/stable/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.152 80], E:Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored,02:41
lolpop-or old ones used instead.02:41
lolpop-can someone help me with this?02:41
lolpop-im trying to upgrade from 16.04 to 16.1002:41
lolpop-this is my sources.list https://pastebin.com/N4ZQHx1y02:42
pjconnectHey, does someone knows howto verify the signature of the xubuntu ISO file ; is there an howto web page ?04:02
pjconnectHey, does someone knows howto verify the signature of a xubuntu ISO ; is there a howto/wiki about it ?04:03
Unit193You can either use hashes or gpg.04:04
Unit193!md5sum04:04
ubottuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM04:04
pjconnect@ubottu I already did that; but I'm not sure if it's sufficient !04:05
pjconnect@Unit193 An ubuntu howto webpage says I need to "Get the key used for the signature from the Ubuntu key server". I assume it's similar for xubuntu !!!04:08
pjconnect@Uni193 see ubuntu howto : https://www.ubuntu.com/download/how-to-verify04:09
pjconnectSo, aside from "verify data integrity", I'm trying to validate the signature :) 04:13
xubuntu09ihello first run xubuntu06:24
xubuntu09iinstalling now06:24
xubuntu09ican i use sudo apt-get dis-upgrade and apt-get update && upgrade06:28
xubuntu09iwithout causing any issues06:28
xubuntu09iI was warned about doing so in linux mint not sure why06:29
enkeyzhello guys06:57
enkeyzdevelopers, whose working in xfce, finally fixed screen tearing: https://github.com/xfce-mirror/xfwm4/commit/b2c7463452de38e25e11cdb4fe2ce5faef9cc31606:58
enkeyzon*06:58
enkeyzis there a proper way to install git version on my xubuntu?06:59
flocculantenkeyz: for git stuff I 1 - apt-get build-deps 'package', git clone, ./autogen.sh, make, make install (or sudo make install)07:02
flocculantbut I use a crib sheet so don't ask me questions ;)07:03
flocculantif it all goes wrong then make uninstall (sudo ...)07:03
Unit193flocculant: I just make a git snapshot of the package.07:04
flocculantUnit193: I expect you do :)07:04
enkeyzflocculant: https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/xfce4-gtk307:05
enkeyzlook what did I find07:05
flocculantenkeyz: well yea - I know about that and the other officialish xubuntu ppa's ;)07:05
enkeyzUnit193: can you test the git version, and maybe update ppa with the new version of xfvm4?07:06
enkeyzI'm sick of using compton, because it's outdated07:07
Unit193enkeyz: 4.13.0 has quirks, not really pushing that forward (and in the same line, likely not going to push a git snapshot to that PPA since it'll be 4.13+extras.  Unless flocculant wants to see if the 32bit vbox quirks are gone. :P )07:08
flocculantUnit193: not much ;) I'd have to install vbox first and then 32 bit ... ;)07:09
enkeyzUnit193: so what's the solution?07:10
enkeyzI read #archlinux yesterday, they seems happy with git build.07:11
Unit193enkeyz: Watching a movie at 3am, but looking into it now too. :P07:25
enkeyz:D07:26
enkeyzreally appreciate it07:26
enkeyzUnit193: maybe it can be backposted07:30
enkeyzbackported*07:30
Unit193enkeyz: Well anyway, did you want the source package so you can test it and see if it's what you wanted?08:01
enkeyzyeah, sure. I can do that08:01
enkeyzcan you package into a dpkg?08:03
Unit193That'd be the source for building the 'deb' file, yep.  Test built and everything, so it's good.08:04
Unit193(I don't like giving people debs directly, as they shouldn't download and install random stuff from the internet... https://sigma.unit193.net/source/xfwm4_4.13.0+git20170601+b2c74634-0aegir1_amd64.deb )08:05
enkeyzsure thing, but you don't do such a ting :D08:06
enkeyz*things08:06
enkeyzI'll check with clamav to be sure ROFL08:07
Unit193You can get the source and build, or compare the source to `make distcheck` from git.08:08
enkeyzUnit193: totally not working right08:18
enkeyzafter enabling composition, desktop is freezed, not clickable08:19
Unit193What glitches?08:19
enkeyzUnit193: looks like it has some dependencies08:19
Unit193enkeyz: You're on a 64bit system and did  apt install ./xfwm4_4.13.0+git20170601+b2c74634-0aegir1_amd64.deb08:20
enkeyzi did it in VM first08:21
enkeyzi'll not mess with my production environment08:21
enkeyzbut yeah, I installed with that command08:22
Unit193Paste?08:23
enkeyzsec08:24
enkeyzUnit193: looks like it doesn't require any dependency. But log files don't show a thing. Enable composition after installing it, and boom. Desktop freezed.08:30
Unit193enkeyz: Restarted xfwm4?08:32
enkeyzyep08:33
enkeyzsame thing08:33
Unit193Only output I got was (on my netbook): (xfwm4:7783): xfwm4-WARNING **: GL not available08:34
Unit193Seems fine, doesn't kill itself at least.08:34
enkeyzit's working for you?08:34
Unit193So far, but problems were in a 32bit VM.  When you started up, no desktop and it basically painted a window over everything so you couldn't interact.08:35
Unit193(IIRC.)08:35
Unit193enkeyz: Up, yeah.  Hearing that it's causing the same issues under VM that it usually does.  Guess that's still not fixed. :/09:24
enkeyzUnit193: maybe we can figure something out in dev channel10:02
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enkeyzUnit193: are you there?13:36
popzare there premade grsec images for 17.04 ?13:38
enkeyzUnit193: try configure xfwm4-git with this command: ./configure --disable-xpresent --enable-epoxy13:39
enkeyzworks perfectly13:39
enkeyzone of the devs posted a fix 2 hours ago, and not it's good13:39
enkeyz-not13:40
enkeyzand it's really good: screen tearing gone, and nobody need to use compton13:40
Olympuscannot seem to get the 17.04 live dvd to connect to the internet. It sees the router but will not connect with my password.19:43
diogenes_Olympus, try rebooting the router19:43
Olympusdiogenes_ thanks, I'll give that a try.19:44
diogenes_yw19:44
Olympusdiogenes_, That worked, thanks again.20:08
diogenes_Olympus, yw20:08
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marckerHi, dudes! how to start xfce-terminal with tmux (and/or others) automatically on open it?21:46

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