[01:25] <santa_> gpul's server is up again, doing test rebuilds
[01:25] <santa_> oops, wrong chan
[01:26] <tsimonq2> santa_: o/ :)
[01:44] <santa_> hi
[02:51] <tsimonq2> Could I get eyes on this please? https://code.launchpad.net/~tsimonq2/ubuntu-seeds/add-nm-to-lubuntu-next/+merge/325440
[02:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted kmail-account-wizard [source] (artful-proposed) [4:16.12.3-0ubuntu1]
[03:42] <tsimonq2> cyphermox: Just out of curiosity, are you just reviewing the MP or do you plan on merging it? :)
[03:44] <cyphermox> mostly just reviewing, partly because it's a lubuntu thing someone from lubuntu should be able to merge, and partly because I'm trying to keep my time on the computer to a minimum since packing for a trip :)
[03:44] <slangasek> clivejo, valorie: korganizer also has a wrong override of permissions on /etc/xdg/autostart/org.kde.korgac.desktop
[03:44] <cyphermox> (I did tell someone I would review another patch)
[03:44] <tsimonq2> cyphermox: I don't have access to merge to the Lubuntu seed :P
[03:45] <cyphermox> tsimonq2: ok, I can merge it then
[03:45] <tsimonq2> cyphermox: Ok, thanks
[03:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted korganizer [source] (artful-proposed) [4:16.12.3-0ubuntu1]
[03:47] <cyphermox> tsimonq2: otoh, there are other ways you could make things the image not take five minutes to boot, but nothing that really means you'd have some way to control it via UI
[03:48] <cyphermox> I suspect that 5 minutes timeout is not /just/ missing NM, even if installing NM fixes it.
[03:48] <tsimonq2> cyphermox: Well this is the simplest solution, given that we need a network manager anyways.
[03:48] <cyphermox> yes, that I agree.
[03:48] <infinity> Is https://cgit.kde.org/networkmanager-qt.git/ really not packaged?
[03:48] <tsimonq2> Well, it's just waiting for networking. What other deps could it needs besides a... well... network manager?
[03:48] <tsimonq2> infinity: That's just a library afaict.
[03:48] <infinity> Oh, quite likely.
[03:49] <infinity> But does nothing use it, then? :P
[03:49] <infinity> libkf5networkmanagerqt6 exists, that's comforting.
[03:49] <tsimonq2> infinity: We have one project that has very experimental usage of it, but the Debian guy wants to wait until it actually serves a purpose before packaging it. :P
[03:49] <infinity> plasma-nm
[03:50] <tsimonq2> Sure, but that pulls in a lot of Plasma, afaicr.
[03:50] <infinity> tsimonq2: Just curious if, say, plasma-nm would bring in fewer scary deps for you than network-manager-gnome, but maybe it's just a tradeoff of one mess for another.
[03:50] <tsimonq2> Either way, this is the easiest solution until I do a cleanout of the GTK libraries.
[03:50] <infinity> (I would assume the goal of a Qt-based lubuntu is to not pull in GTK)
[03:51] <tsimonq2> I need to reorganize lubuntu-default-settings because right now, the Qt-based Lubuntu pulls in all of LXDE with it...
[03:51] <infinity> Heh.
[03:51] <tsimonq2> I'm not joking.
[03:51] <tsimonq2> :P
[03:51] <cyphermox> infinity: oh, that said, there was some indicator that might work that interfaces with NM but isn't GTK
[03:51] <infinity> Didn't think you were.
[03:51] <cyphermox> tsimonq2: indicator-network might work, but YMMV
[03:52] <infinity> If they have an indicator renderer, yes.
[03:52] <cyphermox> yes
[03:52] <tsimonq2> Well this is just the easiest solution at the moment, and I'll do a bit more careful evaluation in the future when we're deciding on final applications.
[03:52] <infinity> THough isn't that the one that kinda sucks on non-touch devices, because it was designed by people who never tried it with a mouse? :P
[03:52] <cyphermox> it's a more or less "standardized" protocol though
[03:52] <cyphermox> no, it was meant to also work with a mouse
[03:52] <tsimonq2> And this is just a "well, we're pulling in all of GTK right now, soooo"
[03:53] <infinity> cyphermox: Yeah, meant to, but if it's the one I'm thinking of, it's kinda desktop-unfriendly, despite the attempt.
[03:53] <cyphermox> (but maybe it got rewritten enough times that this is no longer true)
[03:53]  * infinity shrugs.
[03:53] <cyphermox> *shrugs*
[03:53]  * tsimonq2 shrugs
[03:53]  * infinity shimmies to the left.
[03:53]  * tsimonq2 shimmies to the right.
[03:54] <tsimonq2> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[03:54] <tsimonq2> Anyways... I'd like to get this merged and at least do a smoke test tonight ;)
[03:54] <cyphermox> yep, merging right now
[03:55] <tsimonq2> cyphermox: gracias
[03:55] <tsimonq2> My next task will be making the "Qt" slideshow less hardcoded.
[03:55] <tsimonq2> Because it's hardcoded *everywhere* with Kubuntu logos and Breeze themes, etc. etc.
[03:56] <tsimonq2> It's actually a little bit humorous to install the Lubuntu Next image right now because of the mismatch :P
[03:58] <cyphermox> you mean ubiquity
[03:59] <tsimonq2> Ah yes.
[03:59] <tsimonq2> Yeah, that. :)
[04:19] <cyphermox> ddstreet: isc-dhcp reviewed; I think you should instead try to relax that link-local address check.
[04:19] <cyphermox> tsimonq2: I suppose you need to have lubuntu-meta updated too.
[04:21] <tsimonq2> cyphermox: Please :)
[04:21] <tsimonq2> cyphermox: Although it shouldn't need it for the ISO as one of the steps runs germinate, right?
[04:28] <cyphermox> it does end up on the livefs.
[04:31] <cyphermox> but indeed, only the task is critical to getting the livefs to include n-m and n-m-gnome.
[04:31] <tsimonq2> ic :)
[04:32]  * tsimonq2 will probably apply for MOTU once Stretch is released...
[04:43] <cyphermox> there, lubuntu-meta is uploaded too
[04:45] <tsimonq2> \o/
[04:45] <tsimonq2> cyphermox: Thanks :)
[05:58] <ginggs> anyone around to update 'force-badtest r-bioc-annotationhub/2.8.1-1' please? older versions are in adconrad hints
[11:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cockpit (zesty-backports/universe) [141-2~ubuntu17.04.1 => 142-1~ubuntu17.04.1] (no packageset)
[11:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cockpit (yakkety-backports/universe) [141-2~ubuntu16.10.1 => 142-1~ubuntu16.10.1] (no packageset)
[11:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted cockpit [source] (zesty-backports) [142-1~ubuntu17.04.1]
[11:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted cockpit [source] (yakkety-backports) [142-1~ubuntu16.10.1]
[11:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cockpit (xenial-backports/universe) [141-2~ubuntu16.04.1 => 142-1~ubuntu16.04.1] (no packageset)
[11:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted cockpit [source] (xenial-backports) [142-1~ubuntu16.04.1]
 clivejo, valorie: korganizer also has a wrong override of permissions on /etc/xdg/autostart/org.kde.korgac.desktop
[11:47] <clivejo> Fair enough, but we don't have a MOTU on our team to do an upload and with it stuck in the NEW queue we can get it added to our package set to upload it ourselves
[11:47] <clivejo> how do we move forward?
[11:49] <clivejo> all the time we are wasting valuable time that could be used for our users to test these packages and find bugs
[11:53] <clivejo> I now fear the hardest contributor on our team is getting burnt out from constantly having to nag here to get things done, it is soul destroying :(
[12:07]  * clivejo bites tongue and leaves before says something he regrets
[20:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: skiboot (yakkety-proposed/universe) [5.3.3-1 => 5.3.3-1ubuntu0.1] (no packageset)