[00:01] <glitsj16> TBotNik: you'll need a 3.x kernel or higher version, https://firejail.wordpress.com/download-2/ has more info on how to install
[00:02] <glitsj16> TBotNik: not sure what kernel 14.04 offers..
[00:03] <TBotNik> glitsj16: Running through the install now!  Hope it goes error free
[00:04] <TBotNik> glitsj16: Looks like we have a winner.  Running the config right now!
[00:06] <glitsj16> TBotNik: although it started as a firefox specific sandbox tech, it's evolved way beyond that.. really nice community around it too if you need extra info or help
[00:07] <TBotNik> glitsj16: Says firejail not found.  Do I need a reboot?
[00:07] <glitsj16> TBotNik: what command did you use? Reboot shouldn't be necessary no
[00:09] <TBotNik> I have "firetools" in the apps menu, so ran that which asked for "firetools --autostart" so ran that. Will try firejail again now
[00:09] <tsimonq2> Hey everyone :)
[00:10] <tsimonq2> So I'm installing Ubuntu on my laptop using https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/amd64/apds04.html
[00:10] <tsimonq2> And my goal is to get EFI and root on LUKS working.
[00:10] <nicokil> Can someone help me fix my VPN server or vpn client ?
[00:10] <glitsj16> TBotNik: just try `firejail firefox` for starters, the firetools offer extra stuff you can look at later if you want
[00:10] <nicokil> I setup a vpn server on ubuntu 16.04
[00:10] <TBotNik> glitsj16: just downloaded the i64 .deb, doubleclicked and let dpkg install it.
[00:11] <tsimonq2> So I mounted my root partition in /etc/crypttab, mounted that in /etc/fstab, and now it won't boot, giving the following error: http://i.imgur.com/OwEsPAP.jpg
[00:11] <tsimonq2> Suggestions?
[00:11] <TBotNik> firejail firefox
[00:11] <TBotNik> firejail: command not found
[00:12] <glitsj16> TBotNik: odd, nothing found when issueing `which firejail`?
[00:13] <TBotNik> glitsj16: Rebooting to see if it comes up after that!
[00:13] <nicokil> Does someone now how i can enable open vpn server to allow also IPV6 connections ?
[00:13] <nicokil> *know
[00:14] <Jordan_U> tsimonq2: Those changes would not have caused that error, which is coming from your boot firmware rather than from Ubuntu. Did you at any point run any commands like grub-install or efibootmgr?
[00:14] <tsimonq2> Jordan_U: grub-install /dev/sdb failed with something along the lines of "Cannot find canonical path of /dev/mapper/cryptroot"
[00:16] <Jordan_U> tsimonq2: Were you booted from a LiveUSB when you ran grub-install?
[00:16] <tsimonq2> Jordan_U: Yes, but I ran it inside the chroot.
[00:16] <TBotNik> glitsj16: Rebooted but "firejail firefox" still doe not work, no such command
[00:17] <glitsj16> TBotNik: personally I didn't use the deb to install, just cloned the git repo.. you might want to uninstall it and try that
[00:18] <TBotNik> glitsj16: Followed the HOWTO at: https://www.linux.com/learn/lock-your-untrusted-applications-firejail
[00:18] <glitsj16> TBotNik: looking at that..
[00:18] <TBotNik> glitsj16: the download there is firetools, not firejail, but says firejail is part of it!
[00:20] <Jordan_U> tsimonq2: Is your /boot/ a separate partition or is it part of your encrypted root?
[00:20] <glitsj16> TBotNik: correct, firetools offers a small GUI for firejail, really odd that you have that and not firejail
[00:20] <tsimonq2> Jordan_U: A separate partition, but it is mounted under /mnt/boot (I unlocked the partition to mount it at /mnt)
[00:21] <TBotNik> glitsj16: Opening firetools now to see what is needed!
[00:21] <glitsj16> TBotNik: what kernel version are you running?
[00:22] <TBotNik> glitsj16: What is version qry cmd?
[00:22] <glitsj16> TBotNik: uname -r
[00:23] <TBotNik> glitsj16: 3.13.0-87-generic
[00:23] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-generic trusty | TBotNik
[00:24] <glitsj16> TBotNik: that should be fine, what happens when you open firetools in a terminal? any error messages?
[00:24] <TBotNik> glitsj16: I may need an older version?
[00:24] <Jordan_U> tsimonq2: Can you setup your chroot again and try grub-install again? If grub-install fails again please pastebin the contents of /proc/self/mountinfo from both inside and outside the chroot.
[00:24] <glitsj16> TBotNik: no, any 3.x kernel is the only requirement
[00:25] <tsimonq2> Jordan_U: Just out of curiosity, why do I have to set up the chroot again?
[00:25] <TBotNik> glitsj16: No error msgs, but trying to open FireTools or FireJail Configurator, both open a session on the panel, then close out without ever displaying a screen.
[00:27] <glitsj16> TBotNik: hmm, without anything to go on we're bound to get nowhere soon :) .. are you willing to uninstall the deb and try `git clone https://github.com/netblue30/firejail.get`?
[00:28] <TBotNik> glitsj16: I do however show additional things being blocked on Firefox, with a list showing of all blocked items/links
[00:29] <glitsj16> TBotNik: so did you start firefox via firetools?
[00:30] <Jordan_U> tsimonq2: You could also pass the --boot-directory and --efi-directory options to grub-install, assuming you're using an Ubuntu LiveUSB (to get the secure boot signed shim+grub).
[00:31] <tsimonq2> Jordan_U: Ok :)
[00:31] <tsimonq2> Jordan_U: Should I have CSM turned on or just UEFI?
[00:31] <Jordan_U> tsimonq2: Just UEFI.
[00:31] <tsimonq2> Jordan_U: ack
[00:32] <TBotNik> glitsj16: How can I since It say command not found?
[00:34] <TBotNik> glitsj16: Running find for the  config dir, that is supposed to be there, to make sure it copied correctly.
[00:35] <glitsj16> TBotNik: that's what confused me too, you shouldn't see anything GUI-wise in firefox though when running it with firejail, firefox is unaware of it, that's the whole point
[00:36] <nicokil> Can someone help me with VPN client/server issue
[00:37] <glitsj16> TBotNik: /etc/firejail should be there on install, you can add ~/.config/firejail yourself, but that's not required
[00:37] <TBotNik> glitsj16: From what I read in that HOWTO, the config file is supposed to contain all apps that will run inside of firejail, so a normal "firefox" command or click on it's icon should enable firejail.  Think the config file is missing or wrong, so trying to resolve that now!
[00:38] <glitsj16> TBotNik: that's correct, the howto looks fine
[00:38] <TBotNik> glitsj16: May have to take this up later.  Have wires I have to get connected.
[00:39] <glitsj16> TBotNik: no problem, best to do this with full focus, security and all that ;)
[00:39] <TBotNik> glitsj16: Yup! Gotcha!
[00:39] <tsimonq2> Jordan_U: Do I grub-install to /dev/sdb or /dev/sdb1 ?
[00:40] <glitsj16> TBotNik: best of luck, see you around
[00:40] <TBotNik> got maybe 15 more min, then have to work! LOL
[00:40] <Jordan_U> tsimonq2: Neither, as for UEFI there is no boot sector. Just "grub-install".
[00:40] <tsimonq2> Jordan_U: ack
[00:41] <glitsj16> haha, it's weekend already in my timezone, you'll find you're way around firejail i'm sure, just go through the howto and you'll get there!
[00:41] <tsimonq2> Jordan_U: Is this syntax correct?
[00:41] <tsimonq2> # grub-install --boot-directory=/boot --efi-directory=/boot/efi
[00:41] <tsimonq2> Installing for x86_64-efi platform.
[00:41] <tsimonq2> Installation finished. No error reported.
[00:42] <Jordan_U> tsimonq2: Yes it's correct (though redundant, as the default for --boot-directory is "/boot/" and the default for --efi-directory is "/boot/efi/", so literally just "grub-install" would have had the same result).
[00:42] <tsimonq2> Jordan_U: Ok :)
[00:42] <TBotNik> glitsj16: Well the install must've failed because there is no "/etc/firejail" directory, so that's why it can't find the command!
[00:43] <tsimonq2> Jordan_U: Any other commands I should try running before rebooting one more time?
[00:43] <Jordan_U> tsimonq2: Please pastebin the output of "efibootmgr".
[00:43] <glitsj16> TBotNik: that explains things yes, i'll post a script I use to turn the git repo into a deb via checkinstall, hang on..
[00:44] <TBotNik> glitsj16: I'll work this out next week. Will just shutdown over weekend, to avoid further problems.
[00:44] <tsimonq2> # efibootmgr | pastebinit
[00:44] <tsimonq2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24819447/
[00:44] <tsimonq2> Jordan_U: SanDisk is the live USB
[00:46] <Jordan_U> tsimonq2: efibootmgr -v
[00:46] <glitsj16> TBotNik: https://git.io/vHDZe, you'll need to clean-out my personal prefs for dir names etc but you get the gist, best of luck with it
[00:47] <TBotNik> glitsj16: So checked the /var/bin and /var/sbin dirs and no firejail or firetools.  Not sure why I have icons, but no code?
[00:47] <tsimonq2> # efibootmgr -v | pastebinit
[00:47] <tsimonq2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24819461/
[00:47] <tsimonq2> Jordan_U: ^
[00:47] <glitsj16> TBotNik: I cannot explain that, will have a look at the deb to see what it contains..
[00:48] <tsimonq2> Jordan_U: /dev/sdb1 is /boot/efi, /dev/sdb2 is /boot, and /dev/sdb3 is /
[00:48] <Jordan_U> tsimonq2: OK, that entry should be pointing to shim rather than grubx64.efi for proper secure boot support. Did you boot the LiveUSB with secure boot enabled?
[00:48] <tsimonq2> Jordan_U: I'm not sure.
[00:48] <tsimonq2> Jordan_U: How do I check?
[00:48] <TBotNik> glitsj16: You talking about the "lab16" as personal prefs?
[00:49] <glitsj16> TBotNik: indeed, that's my hostname
[00:49] <Jordan_U> tsimonq2: If secure boot is enabled generally then it should be enabled for your LiveUSB boot. Try rebooting. I expect that you will get a secure boot error again but I'm not certain of it.
[00:50] <glitsj16> TBotNik: you will have to install checkinstall for the script too work, that is in the repo's
[00:50] <Jordan_U> tsimonq2: Actually, before that...
[00:50] <tsimonq2> Jordan_U: Yes? :)
[00:51] <Jordan_U> tsimonq2: "apt policy shim-signed" from within the chroot.
[00:51] <tsimonq2> # apt policy shim-signed | pastebinit
[00:51] <tsimonq2> WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.
[00:51] <tsimonq2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24819481/
[00:51] <tsimonq2> Jordan_U: Should that be installed?
[00:51] <Jakethepython> Hello Room i am getting  an error when i try to sudo apt-get update
[00:51] <Jakethepython>  The package libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[00:52] <TBotNik> glitsj16: Already have latest ver of checkinstall! Cheers! Off to work!
[00:52] <glitsj16> TBotNik: I'll clean up the script on gist.github while your doing your work, should be ready in a short while, have to feed my cats
[00:52] <Jordan_U> tsimonq2: Yes. Shim is needed for booting via secure boot. I don't know why it wasn't installed.
[00:53] <tsimonq2> Jordan_U: Because it's a minimal system installed via debootstrap :P
[00:54] <tsimonq2> Jordan_U: Another thing is that I didn't have a freaking kernel installed /o\
[00:54] <tsimonq2> Sooooooooooo :P
[00:54] <Jordan_U> tsimonq2: :)
[00:55] <tsimonq2> Jordan_U: Yes, now let's reboot and try this... lol
[00:56] <tsimonq2> Jordan_U: Nope, still an issue.
[00:56] <tsimonq2> Jordan_U: I wonder if I need to run grub-install one last time...
[00:57] <Bashing-om> Jakethepython: That is a yakkety version; what release are you running ?
[00:57] <Jordan_U> tsimonq2: Indeed you do.
[00:58] <tsimonq2> Jordan_U: themoreyouknow ;)
[00:58] <Jordan_U> tsimonq2: You'll see shim rather than grubx64.efi in the output of "efibootmgr -v" if everything went correctly.
[00:58] <tsimonq2> Jordan_U: Ok, I'll get you that output in just a sec...
[00:58] <tsimonq2> Actually
[00:58] <tsimonq2> I think I'll just check :P
[01:01] <tsimonq2> Jordan_U: Nope, still grubx64.efi...
[01:01] <Jordan_U> tsimonq2: "find /boot/efi/"
[01:02] <tsimonq2> Jordan_U: Ohhhh, it's not even there :/
[01:03] <tsimonq2> I just have /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi and /boot/efi/EFI/BOOT/{BOOTX64.EFI,fbx64.efi}
[01:09] <VaultyTowers> anyone know how to overclock a GPU on Ubuntu?
[01:10] <Jordan_U> tsimonq2: I don't expect this to help, but try "grub-install --uefi-secure-boot".
[01:10] <blkadder> VaultyTowers What GPU?
[01:10] <VaultyTowers> Radeon Cedar
[01:10] <VaultyTowers> Radeon 8530 or 8350 can't remember which
[01:11] <blkadder> I believe there are some tools to let you do it via CLI
[01:11] <VaultyTowers> Client: HexChat 2.12.0 • OS: Ubuntu "yakkety" 16.10 • CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU          420  @ 1.60GHz (1.60GHz) • Memory: Physical: 3.1 GiB Total (2.7 GiB Free) Swap: 3.2 GiB Total (3.2 GiB Free) • Storage: 111.1 GB / 196.9 GB (85.8 GB Free) • VGA: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Cedar [Radeon HD 7350/8350 / R5 220] @ Intel Corporation 82G33/G31/P35/P31 Express DRAM C
[01:11] <VaultyTowers> ontroller • Uptime: 29m 8s
[01:12] <VaultyTowers> blkadder, lament terms please? im not the most advanced with linux rn
[01:12] <blkadder> CLI means command line interface
[01:12] <Jordan_U> tsimonq2: Ahh, here we go. "apt install grub-efi-amd64-signed"
[01:13] <tsimonq2> Jordan_U: ack
[01:14] <tsimonq2> Jordan_U: yep yep now efibootmgr -v shows shim
[01:14] <tsimonq2> Jordan_U: Rebooting
[01:14] <Jakethepython> 16.04
[01:14] <VaultyTowers> blkadder, this didnt come with any drivers ubuntu auto accepted the gpu
[01:16] <Jakethepython> Bashing-om: 16.04
[01:16] <tsimonq2> Jordan_U: Blank screen... I don't know what it's doing :P
[01:17] <tsimonq2> Wait... NVM
[01:17] <blkadder> VaultyTowers, I think if you want to overclock you need to use AMD's drivers but I am not positive. Someone else here might know better.
[01:17] <blkadder> I use Nvidia so don't keep up with AMD
[01:18] <tsimonq2> Jordan_U: GRUB! Yessssssss http://i.imgur.com/UrEuntk.jpg
[01:18] <Jordan_U> tsimonq2: :)
[01:18] <tsimonq2> Jordan_U: Aaaaand it works just as intended! Thanks so much, I really appreciate it. :)
[01:18] <tsimonq2> Jordan_U: Keep up the good work. :)
[01:19] <VaultyTowers> another question which is better (have these 2) an ATI Radeon x800 Pro or an AMD Radeon 8350
[01:19] <VaultyTowers> obv the radeon pro is from 2003 but I heard it was one of the best
[01:20] <Jordan_U> tsimonq2: You're welcome :)
[01:23] <Jakethepython>  The package libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. i cant figure out how to fix this
[01:28] <dr_horrible> Kackthepython: did you try "apt-cache search libwebkit*"?
[01:28] <dr_horrible> Jakethepython: It should come up in that search.
[01:29] <Jakethepython> it does
[01:31] <dr_horrible> Jakethepython: so then an "sudo apt-get install libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37" should install it for you.
[01:32] <Jakethepython> jacob@RAILX-Precision-5520:~$ sudo apt-get install libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37
[01:32] <Jakethepython> Reading package lists... Done
[01:32] <Jakethepython> Building dependency tree
[01:32] <Jakethepython> Reading state information... Done
[01:32] <Jakethepython> E: The package libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[01:34] <dr_horrible> Jakethepython: Did you have it installed before?  An "apt-get -f" might work or then you might have to purge it and then try a new install.
[01:37] <Jakethepython>  Command line option 'f' [from -f] is not understood in combination with the other options.
[01:39] <dr_horrible> Jakethepython: Sorry.  apt-get install -f
[01:39] <dr_horrible> Jakethepython: Sorry.  sudo apt-get install -f
[01:40] <Jakethepython> E: The package libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[01:40] <Jakethepython> same return
[01:43] <dr_horrible> Jakethepython: you can try a purge command to see if it clears some old setting/config files and then an install.  sudo apt-get purge libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37 && sudo apt-get install libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37
[01:43] <dr_horrible> Anyone else with some good ideas?
[01:44] <Jakethepython> jacob@RAILX-Precision-5520:~$ sudo apt-get purge
[01:44] <Jakethepython> Reading package lists... Done
[01:44] <Jakethepython> Building dependency tree
[01:44] <Jakethepython> Reading state information... Done
[01:44] <Jakethepython> E: The package libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[01:44] <Jakethepython> it returns the same thing
[01:45] <glitsj16> download it from packages.ubuntu.com & install via sudo dpkg -i ?
[01:46] <tomreyn> !info libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37
[01:47] <tomreyn> Jakethepython: which ubuntu release are you on? did you run apt-get update?
[01:48] <Jakethepython> i did do a sudo apt-get update im runnign 16.04
[01:49] <tomreyn> Jakethepython: (sudo apt-get update 2>&1; apt-cache policy 2>&1) | pastebinit
[01:51] <Jakethepython> The program 'pastebinit' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
[01:51] <Jakethepython> sudo apt install pastebinit
[01:51] <Jakethepython> E: The package libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[01:51] <Jakethepython> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[01:57] <tomreyn> Jakethepython: (sudo apt-get update 2>&1; apt-cache policy 2>&1) | nc termbin.com 9999
[01:58] <tomreyn> please mention my nickname if / when talking to me
[02:00] <Jakethepython>   tomreyn/ http://termbin.com/yf4m
[02:02] <tomreyn> Jakethepython: looks like you are using APT repositories for different ubuntu releases on this system. that's usually not a good idea.
[02:02] <tomreyn> archive.canonical.com -> "precise"
[02:03] <Jakethepython> how do i clean it up i guess is my next question
[02:03] <tomreyn> linux.dropbox.com -> 'wily'
[02:04] <Jakethepython> was the dropbox link for me?
[02:04] <kristhian> hello there, i have a problem loading my OS since i tried SSD then return to my original HDD, can't find help on google and in #hardware channel
[02:04] <kristhian> my OS is ubuntu 16.04
[02:04] <kristhian> i am using lenovo flex 2-14
[02:04] <tomreyn> Jakethepython: more or less, i was pointing out that yxou are using a 'wily' APT repository on your 'xenial' ubuntu release, which can be incompatible.
[02:04] <kristhian> http://picpaste.com/19023281_1785996968358839_588593946800646373_o-33L9yL3i.jpg <- got stuck in boot menu
[02:05] <Jakethepython> ahh ok how do i clear it up?
[02:06] <tomreyn> Jakethepython: you should edit the file sin /etc/apt/sources.list ensuing that they don't refer to a release version other than csenial
[02:07] <tomreyn> *fileS
[02:08] <Jakethepython> # deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ precise partner
[02:08] <Jakethepython> # deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ precise partner
[02:10] <Jakethepython> should i comment out anything that is precise partner?
[02:19] <Jakethepython> everythign i try to do leads me back to E: The package libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[02:20] <glitsj16> Jakethepython: tomreyn might be busy and not seeing your messages because you don't mention his nick in your communications.. that being said, the '#' in those lines mean things are already commented out (disabled). The purpose is to exchange 'precise' & 'wily' etc for 'xenial'
[02:21] <Jakethepython> yeah i know i copied the wrong lines over her
[02:22] <glitsj16> Jakethepython: no problem, do the editing and when done try `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade` again to un-confuse apt
[02:23] <glitsj16> Jakethepython: does that make sense? :)
[02:26] <Jakethepython> yes
[02:26] <glitsj16> Jakethepython: you need to edit *all* files under /etc/apt/sources.list.d & also doublecheck /etc/apt/sources.list (which is a seperate file)
[02:27] <glitsj16> Jakethepython: tell the channel what that resulted in when done editing, deal?
[02:28] <glitsj16> I'm here for another 90 minutes and willing to help where I can
[02:29] <Jakethepython> the sources.list.d comes up empty when i gedit
[02:30] <glitsj16> Jakethepython: that's possible, nothing wrong with that dir being empty
[02:30] <Jakethepython> its a dir nevermind
[02:31] <glitsj16> Jakethepython: makes things a bit easier, only the one file to double-check, if you paste it after editing we can go over it
[02:31] <Jakethepython> sorry
[02:31] <glitsj16> no problem :)
[02:31] <Jakethepython> E: The package libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[02:31] <Jakethepython> shoot
[02:32] <Jakethepython> deb [arch=i386,amd64] http://linux.dropbox.com/ubuntu wily main
[02:32] <Jakethepython> there thats what i meant to put
[02:32] <glitsj16> edit 'wily' to 'xenial'
[02:33] <glitsj16> you shouldn't see 'wily', 'precise' or any other Ubuntu OS nicknames in that file besides 'xenial', which is 16.04
[02:36] <glitsj16> when you've done that, run `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade` once more, that should bring back some logic into your APT.. and if that goes well, you should be able to install libwebkit2gtk-4.0.37
[02:36] <glitsj16> that's my line of thought here..
[02:37] <oerheks_> glitsj16, it is, i just wonder how he got such odd sources
[02:37] <glitsj16> oerheks_: beats me :)
[02:37] <Jakethepython> sudo apt-get update is now clean
[02:37] <Jakethepython> but upgade give s udo apt-get upgrade
[02:37] <Jakethepython> Reading package lists... Done
[02:37] <Jakethepython> Building dependency tree
[02:37] <Jakethepython> Reading state information... Done
[02:37] <Jakethepython> E: The package libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[02:38] <oerheks_> !paste
[02:39] <oerheks_> Jakethepython, read glitsj16 again, youjust showed upgrade
[02:39] <oerheks_> update first, that would get fresh lists
[02:40] <Jakethepython> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24820058/
[02:41] <oerheks_> what is the use of pasting as there is no error
[02:42] <Jakethepython> because you said i just showed update
[02:42] <Jakethepython> so that was the upgrade*
[02:42] <Jakethepython> so that was the update before upgrade
[02:43] <oerheks_> now it will find the package, yes.
[02:43] <Jakethepython>  The package libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[02:43] <Jakethepython> it doesn't
[02:43] <glitsj16> oerheks_: Jakethepython has gone through the update & upgrade before and keeps hitting the same error on libwebkit2gtk not being available, which i can't explain.. might a manual download & install of that package help?
[02:44] <Jakethepython> i have manually downloaded it but it won't seem to install
[02:44] <glitsj16> Jakethepython: ah, did you get any errors doing that?
[02:44] <Jakethepython> i didn't do it in terminal should i try via terminal?
[02:45] <glitsj16> Jakethepython: that's the only way to see errors .. so try that yes .. sudo dpkg -i <name-of-the-deb>
[02:46] <Jakethepython> sudo dpgk -i libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37_2.16.3-0ubuntu0.16.10.1_i386.deb
[02:46] <Jakethepython> sudo: dpgk: command not found
[02:47] <glitsj16> dpkg, not dpgk..
[02:49] <Jakethepython> https://paste.ubuntu.com/24820094/
[02:50] <Jakethepython> half installed...
[02:50] <glitsj16> libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37:i386, you downloaded the wrong architecture file, you're on x64 correct?
[02:51] <glitsj16> http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/w/webkit2gtk/libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37_2.16.3-0ubuntu0.16.04.1_amd64.deb
[02:52] <Jakethepython> yeah
[02:52] <oerheks_> why not apt-get install -f, this will fix this 1/2 installed package too
[02:53] <glitsj16> Jakethepython: better follow oerheks_, i'm the worst helper you could have encountered, although i am awake :)
[02:54] <Jakethepython> you're fine im new to all this stuff
[02:54] <glitsj16> Jakethepython: been there, let's try to take a breath and try again with the correct .deb this time
[02:55] <Jakethepython> https://paste.ubuntu.com/24820129/
[02:56] <Jakethepython> that paste looks gross
[02:57] <glitsj16> Jakethepython: oerheks_ 's advice this time.. sudo apt-get install -f
[02:58] <kostkon> Jakethepython, try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:58] <Jakethepython> its removing stuff
[02:58] <Jakethepython> 266 MB
[02:59] <glitsj16> Jakethepython: it might be helpful for the channel if you mentioned the exact command you ran which resulted in that removal.. otherwise we're all flying blind
[02:59] <glitsj16> and i can't even fly with both eyes wide-open
[02:59] <glitsj16> :p
[03:00] <Jakethepython> it was the dropbox wily to Xenial in sources.list.d
[03:00] <Jakethepython> and downloading the right package
[03:00] <glitsj16> that's a biggy indeed
[03:01] <glitsj16> Jakethepython: so what's your situation now? still downloading & installing?
[03:01] <Jakethepython> yeah
[03:01] <Jakethepython> just did a sudo-apt get update
[03:02] <glitsj16> good, anything out of the ordinary this time?
[03:03] <Jakethepython> no its running apt-get upgrade now and installing stuff
[03:03] <glitsj16> looks promising, just let it finish and report back
[03:07] <Jakethepython> FIXED IT...THANK YOU!!!!
[03:09] <glitsj16> Jakethepython: that deserves a .. well fill in the blank :) .. these things take patience, glad things are working again for you
[03:10] <Bashing-om> !cookie | glitsj16
[03:10] <Jakethepython> thank you for your patience w/ me im trying to learn haha
[03:10] <glitsj16> lol, i'll take anything eatable
[03:10] <oerheks_> have fun!
[03:11] <glitsj16> Jakethepython: very welcome, and thank you for the compliment
[03:41] <glitsj16> have a nice weekend people, laterzzz
[04:18] <m4dh4tt4> what do people do here for amd drivers, say, bought a 300$ card 2 months ago, is there not a repo? i fear ppa's and thhe amd binary i loaded is out of datte now and hahscat complains
[04:21] <Bashing-om> m4dh4tt4: AMD drivers are now open source - the driver is in the kernel . If ya have the latest card - there is the proprietary layer on open source foundation.
[04:21] <Bashing-om> !amd
[04:25] <Batzy> Does anyone know a way to run a script at startup? everything on google does not work
[04:26] <m4dh4tt4> does that do open-cl though?
[04:28] <Batzy> will sessions and startup do it
[04:33] <twoj_> hello,  can anyone help with a routing question?
[04:35] <Batzy> ask the question mate.
[04:37] <twoj_> cool!   Well, I set up ubuntu with 2 nics, 1 for external internet, and the other for internal
[04:38] <twoj_> I configured DHCP and DNS on internal NIC and had iptable forwarding ports
[04:38] <twoj_> then after a crash, when ubuntu came back, I lost ability to port forward,  the ports are all still defined
[04:39] <twoj_> And what seems strange, is that retained the Internet for all the client computers connecting to the local nic?!?
[04:39] <m4dh4tt4> did your nic perhaps get renamed?
[04:40] <m4dh4tt4> yes batzy sessions and startup will work but only runs on gui login
[04:40] <twoj_> So, I'm not sure where to look next.....  the internet works so that means the packets are flowing and routing
[04:41] <m4dh4tt4> how are u doing your portfwd twoj_
[04:41] <twoj_> No, nics did not get renamed.   BUT I also swapped the network cable to a third NIC this computer has temporarily.....  that may have screw up routing?!?!
[04:42] <twoj_> Port forwards are done with iptables and NAT
[04:43] <m4dh4tt4> well when you did your iptables you must have put in a nic name or mac name
[04:43] <m4dh4tt4> addr*
[04:43] <m4dh4tt4> so if you changed that u gotta mod iptables
[04:44] <m4dh4tt4> ifconfig; iptables -L and see if the interfaces match for your rules
[04:44] <twoj_> the network cable swap was by accident, I was moving the computer.   I put the cables back the way they were.
[04:45] <m4dh4tt4> still worth comparing?
[04:45] <twoj_> Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags   MSS Window  irtt Iface
[04:45] <twoj_> 0.0.0.0         10.10.6.1       0.0.0.0         UG        0 0          0 eno1
[04:45] <twoj_> 10.10.6.0       0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U         0 0          0 eno1
[04:46] <twoj_> 169.254.0.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.0.0     U         0 0          0 eno1
[04:46] <twoj_> 192.168.0.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U         0 0          0 enp2s0f1
[04:46] <twoj_> eno1 is the external,  enp2s0f1 is the internal
[04:47] <twoj_> am I missing enp2s0f1 route entry?
[04:48] <twoj_> My nat rules come in on eno1 and forward to ips on 192.168.0.x network
[04:49] <twoj_> Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)
[04:49] <twoj_> target     prot opt source               destination
[04:49] <m4dh4tt4> im not sure bro, never done that stuff, if your rules arent too complicated i'd say, back them up, dpkg-reconfigure network-manager, reapply?
[04:49] <twoj_> ACCEPT     all  --  anywhere             anywhere
[04:50] <twoj_> .
[04:50] <m4dh4tt4> but whats this box for ? router only
[04:50] <m4dh4tt4> ?
[04:50] <twoj_> Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT)
[04:50] <twoj_> target     prot opt source               destination
[04:50] <twoj_> ACCEPT     all  --  anywhere             anywhere
[04:50] <twoj_> .
[04:50] <twoj_> Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)
[04:50] <twoj_> target     prot opt source               destination
[04:50] <oerheks_> !paste
[04:50] <twoj_> .
[04:51] <twoj_> got it
[04:51] <twoj_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24820894/
[04:52] <twoj_> more concise output
[04:52] <twoj_> Yes, this box acts like a router for most part.  Private DNS and DHCP for a small subnet
[04:53] <twoj_> I do have a number off share hanging of of it...
[04:53] <Griv> I've got a real stumper with being unable to format a drive.  The HDD is not found using the fdisk command, but it is listed using lsblk.  using fdisk returns either no such file or directory or permission denied.  How do format this drive?
[04:55] <kenrin> You need to be root to do that griv
[04:55] <kenrin> you could try parted -l
[05:00] <twoj_> any other suggestions?  What complicates this is that this server is remotely located, if I dpkg-reconfigure network-manager I'll loose access?
[05:01] <Griv> I've rebooted a number of times with no success.  parted -l has the same result: the drive in question is skipped.  it goes from sdb to sdd.
[05:03] <kenrin> Sounds like the drive has some errors.  Did you find anything in the logs or dmesg ?
[05:06] <Griv> Sorry, I'm a total newbie.  Been spending a lot of time to try and figure this out.  Learned a ton this past week.  How/where would I check logs or dmesg?
[05:06] <sovereignentity> I have a Dell XPS13 How do I install Ubuntu on it.Right now I can't see the drive even in Gparted
[05:07] <kenrin> Usually under /var/log.  You can try a "dmesg | grep /dev/sdc"  also
[05:11] <kenrin> sovereignentity: Just ubuntu or are you trying to dual boot ?
[05:12] <sovereignentity> Just ubuntu I think the windows install is screwed up
[05:13] <kenrin> You could change the drive to AHCI in the bios
[05:13] <kenrin> Windows won't be able to boot after that but if you don't want it,  it doesn't matter.
[05:17] <kenrin> About to idle a bit so Griv: if you don't find anything useful you can google for...  You could possibly try testdisk and see if it can repair or fix whatever is wrong.  Just be careful and don't use it on the wrong drive.
[05:18] <Griv> thanks kenrin.   Just found something in the syslog
[05:19] <Griv> input/output errors.  I'll try testdisk.
[05:22] <Griv> Well, same result with testdisk - it skips sdc.
[05:23] <kenrin> Sounds like the drive is dead if nothing is physically wrong like bad|loose cable
[05:24] <kenrin> or even more rare a bad sata port
[05:27] <Griv> nah - not the sata port.  tried the drive on another PC with similar results.  I've checked the cables many times over.  I may just have to accept that the drive died.
[06:12] <bmgamer> does anyone have any experience with Playonlinux? i have some questions about how to use it on ubuntu
[06:14] <kenrin> How to "use" it ?   It is pretty straightforward for GUI software
[06:14] <bmgamer> The issue seems to come after getting software installed, it never wants to run properly.
[06:15] <bmgamer> should I be using a certain version of wine?
[06:15] <kenrin> You have to play with settings,  wine versions,  etc to make certain software work
[06:15] <kenrin> Trial and error or check winedb
[06:15] <bmgamer> the specific software I want to make work is world at war
[06:15] <bmgamer> it has a platinum rating
[06:15] <bmgamer> but no instructions on winehq
[06:17] <kenrin> Did you read the comments?  I see quite a bit of instructions
[06:18] <bmgamer> https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=33147
[06:18] <bmgamer> found that on winedb, is that what your looking at?
[06:19] <bmgamer> comments are blank under that link
[06:19] <kenrin> Well I was looking at the retail one that has a howto with a few winetricks and things you need to do
[06:19] <bmgamer> oh let me check that then
[06:20] <bmgamer> it says under the how to those notes may be extremely old?
[06:20] <kenrin> Yep
[06:21] <bmgamer> wine 1.1.3....
[06:21] <bmgamer> Thats not going to help lol
[06:21] <kenrin> That just says tested with that version.  Doesn't mean it'll only work for that version
[06:21] <bmgamer> I know that when I just select system version of wine, with nothing else changed, steam will install, but games wont launch
[06:22] <bmgamer> my issue seems to be knowing exactly what version to use and settings to change
[06:22] <kenrin> They usually don't until you install the additions like directx 9 and etc.
[06:22] <bmgamer> i did add dx9 only, world at war still crashed
[06:23] <kenrin> Like I said,  trial and error or search the forums for more up to date experiences
[06:23] <bmgamer> i'm prepping a fresh install of mate at the moment and installing playonlinux to start with a fresh install
[06:23] <bmgamer> to ubuntu mate
[06:23] <kenrin> I've had to try 20 different wine versions for just one game to work ;P
[06:23] <kenrin> Until I started using VMs anyway
[06:23] <bmgamer> I've used vmware player with some success for gaming.
[06:24] <bmgamer> I'd love to setup a passthrough vm
[06:24] <bmgamer> with qemu or something
[06:24] <bmgamer> as far as I know its not been working out for people very well with my motherboard/cpu hardware
[06:25] <bmgamer> i have a new ryzen 1700x system as my main gaming rig with windows, my main linux rig is asrock h97m pro4 and intel i5 4590
[06:26] <bmgamer> i have 2 different video cards , one nvidia one amd
[06:26] <bmgamer> to make it easier
[06:27] <bmgamer> how do I know what extensions to install or wine settings to choose?
[06:28] <bmgamer> I'm not a beginner linux user but it seems to me theres usually more than guesswork involved in computer settings
[06:28] <bmgamer> Theres gotta be something that explains or shows me how to know what settings to use when and where..
[06:29] <bmgamer> the gui is straight forward, and I assume its a front end for things you could do manually with wine anyways
[06:30] <kenrin> You search or figure out what the equivalent thing is used on windows.  Like if a game is dx9 it is likely you are going to need to install the dx9 lib from winetricks
[06:32] <bmgamer> using complete default settings and just working my way through installing steam works up until the point i launch world at war, then it crashes. I have the dx9 lib installed
[06:32] <bmgamer> should I be using staging or regular build of wine?
[06:34] <kenrin> Whatever works,  staging is just test builds
[06:34] <bmgamer> dont seem to know what works :]
[06:34] <bmgamer> lol
[06:50] <crazyhorse18> hey
[06:50] <crazyhorse18> i'm trying to open up my display settings
[06:50] <crazyhorse18> and i'm getting "could not get screen information" in a transparent box
[06:51] <Ben64> what video cards, what drivers, what display settings, what are you trying to do, what version of linux
[06:52] <crazyhorse18> intel motherboard, on board
[06:52] <crazyhorse18> no idea what display settings .. can't open the display settings
[06:52] <crazyhorse18> ubuntu 15.04
[06:52] <Ben64> 15.04 is definitely no longer supported
[06:52] <crazyhorse18> it's worked for the last few years
[06:52] <crazyhorse18> just today stopped working
[06:53] <crazyhorse18> actually might be 14.04
[06:53] <Ben64> cool, well it hasn't been supported for 15 months
[06:53] <crazyhorse18> i would google how to check the version
[06:53] <crazyhorse18> but chrome wont' open in my current monitor
[06:53] <Ben64> lsb_release -a
[06:53] <crazyhorse18> ah yeah 15.04
[06:55] <Slart> crazyhorse18: are you running unity? or gnome?
[06:55] <crazyhorse18> unity yeah
[06:55] <Ben64> doesn't matter, need to upgrade
[06:55] <Slart> crazyhorse18: this is one post I found, it's not the exact version but it might be worth looking into https://askubuntu.com/questions/808817/ubuntu-could-not-get-screen-information-after-upgrade
[06:56] <Slart> crazyhorse18: but yea, upgrading is a good thing
[06:56] <Ben64> necessary thing
[06:56] <Ben64> there's been a number of security issues in the past 15 months
[06:56] <crazyhorse18> ah yeah ok so the second monitor not working was the monitor had broken
[06:56] <crazyhorse18> ok.. i'll look at upgrading soon.. just got so much work to finish :(
[06:56] <Ben64> you need to do it now
[06:56] <Ben64> it's dangerous to keep running that
[06:57] <crazyhorse18> but normally i reinstall
[06:57] <Slart> crazyhorse18: I would suggest going with an LTS release if you know you won't be monitoring it as often
[06:57] <crazyhorse18> i've got lots of installed software libraries
[06:57] <Ben64> which are all 15 months outdated
[06:57] <crazyhorse18> Slart, yeah true
[06:59] <crazyhorse18> fixed it!
[06:59] <crazyhorse18> Slart: that worked thanks
[06:59] <Slart> crazyhorse18: you're welcome
[06:59] <crazyhorse18> sudo apt-get install unity-control-center, unity-control-center
[06:59] <Ben64> crazyhorse18: great, now format and install a supported release
[06:59] <crazyhorse18> great.. ok.. i've got some emergency work i have to finish over the next couple of days but then i'll upgrade staight after
[06:59] <Ben64> you don't seem to understand the situation you're in
[06:59] <Slart> now start planning that upgrade and don't ignore it just because you fixed THIS problem =)
[06:59] <crazyhorse18> so probably should upgrade to 16.04?
[06:59] <Ben64> 15 MONTHS
[07:00] <Ben64> you don't seem to care at all
[07:00] <crazyhorse18> Ben64, Slart, yeah noted.. very high priority
[07:00] <Ben64> if that thing is connected to the internet it's a huge problem
[07:00] <crazyhorse18> Ben64,
[07:00] <crazyhorse18> ah
[07:00] <crazyhorse18> ok.. easily remotely exploitable
[07:01] <Ben64> https://www.ubuntu.com/usn/
[07:01] <Ben64> the first 11 pages are applicable to you
[07:01] <crazyhorse18> ok so we should upgrade to 16.04?
[07:01] <Slart> !lts
[07:01] <Ben64> all unfixed because you've been ignoring it for over a year
[07:02] <Slart> crazyhorse18: yes, 16.04 is the latest LTS release. I'd go with that
[07:02] <damsel> Hello gang, I was wondering if s.o. can help me, I am looking to get the logs of the intial boot-process, you know the one where it says NetworkManager ... [<status>] .....
[07:02] <damsel> I cannot find them in dmesg or journalctl
[07:03] <Slart> damsel: kern.log?
[07:03] <damsel> Nope
[07:03] <damsel> I remember there being an expclicit cmd for systemd
[07:04] <Slart> damsel: ohh.. systemd is a brand new white sheet of paper for me, I have no idea how to do that
[07:04] <crazyhorse18> Slart, nice thanhks
[07:08] <Slart> damsel: journalctl -b shows me information since the NetworkManager started.. I'm not sure if it logs somewhere else as well
[07:09] <Slart> damsel: but that's just what I found from a quick google search.. you can also try asking in #linux if you don't get any answers here
[07:10] <kenrin> Could always man journalctl
[07:10] <kenrin> Tells you exactly what options to use for what you want to see
[07:15] <kristhian> hell guys, can someone help me out recovering a kernel panic issue?
[07:16] <kristhian> without reinstalling the os?
[07:16] <kristhian> 14.04 is my current os
[07:18] <kristhian> kernel panic not syncing. attempting to kill init!
[07:22] <Slart> kristhian: is this helpful? https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/76812/how-to-repair-system-if-kernel-panic
[07:23] <Slart> kristhian: especially the answer about "booting from rescue media, mount, chroot and reinstall specified packages"
[07:23] <kristhian> Slart, ill check it out, checking on something here as well
[07:26] <damsel> Slate, the -b switch was very helpful thank you
[07:26] <damsel> I somehow seem to be unable to use google to get the results I want, darn, customized search
[07:27] <damsel> besides Google is Evil, remember ;)
[07:28] <damsel> Thanks guys
[07:28] <damsel> :D
[07:30] <kristhian> will this not remove my files btw?
[07:31] <Slart> kristhian: it shouldn't
[07:31] <Slart> kristhian: but don't take a random strangers word for it.. backups backups backups
[07:32] <kristhian> ok thanks
[07:32] <Slart> kristhian: if I was in your situation I would boot from some kind of live cd, rescue cd or whatever and make backups of the things that will kill your business or mental health if they are lost forever.. then try to fix it
[07:32] <kristhian> anyways how do i mount to my root partition and chroot this
[07:33] <kristhian> as instructed here
[07:33] <kenrin> If you use the recovery image it should do that automatic if I remember correctly
[07:36] <Slart> kristhian: I don't know the exact commands by heart. Have a look at this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery it can explain it better than I can
[07:38] <kristhian> anyways, here again
[07:38] <kristhian> what does "including /usr" means?
[07:39] <kristhian> to mount /usr on /mnt as well?
[07:40] <Slart> I'm not sure but I guess some systems can have /usr on a separate partition
[07:40] <Slart> so that needs to be mounted as well as the regular root file system
[07:41] <Slart> just check if you have a /usr in your root file system.. you probably do and then you can ignore that
[07:44] <kristhian> yep i got a /usr
[07:44] <Slart> then you should be good
[07:45] <Slart> ie good to go =)
[07:45] <kristhian> problem is i couldnt mount it to /mnt it says that usr is not a block device
[07:46] <Slart> what command did you run?
[07:46] <kristhian> sudo mount /usr /mnt
[07:47] <Slart> ah, just do "sudo mount /mnt"
[07:47] <Slart> ignore the usr part
[07:48] <akik> Slart: you don't want to mix the live session /usr with the other /usr that is the installed /usr
[07:49] <Slart> ohh.. so that's why they wanted a separate mount of /usr.. I see
[07:50] <kristhian> also chrooting /mnt is failing
[07:50] <Slart> or.. shouldn't that work out once you chroot into the installed root file system?
[07:50] <kristhian> failed to run /bin/bash: no such file or directory
[07:51] <kristhian> i think this fix will not work for me
[07:51] <akik> kristhian: did you already mount your original installation to /mnt ?
[07:52] <kristhian> i did this sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[07:52] <kristhian> then tried sudo chroot /mnt
[07:52] <kristhian> but fails
[07:52] <tomreyn> what's in /mnt now? can you run 'ls /mnt' ?
[07:53] <akik> kristhian: you should see /mnt/bin/ if that was your root file system
[07:53] <kristhian> tomreyn, ok
[07:54] <kristhian> it is boot bootmgr bootsect.bak eafw system volume win.ld
[07:54] <kristhian> ls /mnt
[07:55] <g2> how can I retreive login fail attempts to desktop ubuntu?
[07:55] <tomreyn> kristhian: hmm this looks like a windows partition to me
[07:55] <qswz> do you know what lib is used by image viewer to render svg's? https://github.com/GNOME/librsvg?
[07:56] <kristhian> aw, yes i have dual boot in this os
[07:56] <kristhian> and akik there is no /mnt/bin
[07:56] <DJHenjin> Hey, Ubuntu server 17.04 running on a laptop, when the lid is closed everything get's suspended, Is there any way to keep the server running even if the lid is closed?
[07:57] <tomreyn> kristian, you are doing this because your kernel panics on boot, right? have you checked whether you have other kernels installed which do not panic on boot?
[07:57] <tomreyn> this can be easier
[07:57] <kristhian> tomreyn, ill go check
[07:58] <Slart> DJHenjin: does this work? https://askubuntu.com/questions/141866/keep-ubuntu-server-running-on-a-laptop-with-the-lid-closed
[07:58] <tomreyn> kristhian: you'd hold down left shift during boot to show the grub menu, then choose the advanced ubuntu option and select one of the older records, usually the third.
[07:59] <DJHenjin> Slart, both the acpi-support method, and the logind.conf method do not work
[07:59] <kristhian> actually all of it doesnt work tomreyn
[07:59] <kristhian> including the recovery mode
[08:00] <DJHenjin> checking for acpi lidbtn event
[08:00] <tomreyn> kristhian: all of them give you a kernel panic? if so, do you have any idea what you may have changed that introduced this issue?
[08:00] <brez0> hi all, quick and probably silly question: my user is currently set to /usr/sbin/nologin, when I try to change my shell to /bin/bash, it says "You may not change the shell for"
[08:01] <brez0> Am I out of options unless I have root?
[08:01] <kristhian> the last time i remembered is i did changed my unity launcher
[08:01] <kristhian> or hide it
[08:04] <tomreyn> kristhian: this won't be why the kernel panics. an incompatible kernel module ('driver') or defective hardware could cause this.
[08:04] <g2> anyway to retreive failed login attemnpts and their usage to access desktop ubuntu?
[08:05] <tomreyn> kristhian: also changes BIOS / UEFI settings could cause it. i guess you'd best take a screenshot (using a smartphone or similar) of the kernel panic then post it to imgur.com or similar to get some idea of what you actually need to fix there.
[08:05] <g2> bootup login
[08:06] <kristhian> tomreyn, copy
[08:06] <tomreyn> g2: /var/log/auth.log
[08:06] <DJHenjin> Slart, none of those methods work
[08:10] <Slart> DJHenjin: then I don't know what to try.. I've never messed with the power settings on a server.. only through gnome/unity
[08:10] <DJHenjin> yeah, kinda screwy
[08:11] <Slart> DJHenjin: but there were a lot of good hits on google for this issue.. seems there are many people out there running servers on their laptops
[08:13] <tomreyn> kristhian: also run this from the live system: lsblk --fs | nc termbin.com 9999
[08:14] <kristhian> live media?
[08:15] <tomreyn> kristhian: yes, you were running from a installer usb or dvd in an attempt to recover the system earlier, weren't you?
[08:16] <g2> tomreyn, ty but /var/log/auth.log says permission denied
[08:16] <kristhian> tomreyn, ok
[08:16] <kristhian> copy
[08:17] <tomreyn> g2: right, you'll need to read it using sudo. run 'sudo less /var/log/auth.log', type 'q' to quit.
[08:19] <kristhian> tomreyn, wait a minute. problem with my phone
[08:20] <g2> tomreyn, looks like it brought up several lines only dated today
[08:22] <tomreyn> g2: if you need to copy and paste form this file, you could also open it in a graphical text editor - but be sure not to save the file there. 'gksudo gedit /var/log/auth.log'
[08:24] <tomreyn> g2: this log lists all the login attempts, not just the failed ones, not just those to the graphical login (but also on command line / tty and via SSH)
[08:24] <g2> nice
[08:24] <g2> i'm installing gksu
[08:25] <g2> tomreyn, its only showing todays logins
[08:25] <tomreyn> g2: gksu is not gksudo.
[08:26] <tomreyn> actually it is, sorry
[08:26] <g2> np
[08:26] <g2> and its not showing the incorrect password used
[08:26] <g2> oh well
[08:27] <tomreyn> g2: right, passwords are not recorded. for older records, look at the older logs: ls -l /var/log/auth.log*; less /var/log/auth.log.1; zless /var/log/auth.log.2.gz
[08:28] <tomreyn> g2: older logs are compressed (.gz file extension)
[08:28] <tomreyn> *z*less lets you read those.
[08:28] <kristhian> tomreyn this is the kernel panic details http://picpaste.com/19048302_1786115355013667_2128955414_o-hfZQCcf0.jpg
[08:28] <g2> do I need to type all 4 of those commands?
[08:30] <tomreyn> g2: no, those are just examples. also you could just copy and paste them to a temrinal, no need to type them yourself.
[08:31] <g2> i'm copy/pasting
[08:31] <g2> copying/pasting
[08:31] <g2> just feel lost :P
[08:31] <tomreyn> kristhian: that's a non-default kernel version for 14.04, how comes?
[08:31] <mikeplus32> just upgraded from 16.04->16.10->17.04; trying to 'apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'... see http://lpaste.net/8996398159315861504
[08:32] <mikeplus32> any ideas?
[08:32] <kristhian> tomreyn, i am using 14.04
[08:32] <tomreyn> g2: i'm not sure what you're trying to do exactly so i'm just providing some suggestions for what you may generally be interested to look at.
[08:32] <g2> ok
[08:33] <g2> i just want to know the passwords used to attempt to acess mubuntu desktop
[08:33] <tomreyn> kristhian: yes, but not the kernel which is in 14.04
[08:33] <g2> ubuntu*
[08:33] <mikeplus32> i thought maybe packages that i installed via a ppa could be breaking it, but there doesn't seem to be a way to find packages that have no longer have a repository they belong to
[08:34] <Ben64> mikeplus32: sudo apt install plasma-desktop
[08:34] <kristhian> here is the content of lsblk --ds
[08:34] <kristhian> fs
[08:34] <kristhian> http://termbin.com/n36h
[08:34] <kristhian> tomreyn, i do not know actually, coz i only have ubuntu 14.04 here
[08:35] <tomreyn> kristhian: the kernel version is 3.16.0.50-generic at patch level 67, which apparently is somehow related to ubuntu 14.04.1 (a long outdated ubuntu point release). the current kernel version in 14.04 is 3.13.0.119.129 as per https://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/linux-image-generic
[08:36] <kristhian> i see, i am using this 2014, never upadted and upgrades OS i think
[08:36] <kristhian> and its kernels
[08:36] <kristhian> so this is non recoverable
[08:36] <mikeplus32> Ben64: sec
[08:36] <mikeplus32> Ben64: https://paste.ubuntu.com/24821808/
[08:37] <Ben64> mikeplus32: yep looks like ppa
[08:37] <mikeplus32> i'll try reinstall kwayland-data i guess
[08:37] <tomreyn> kristhian: sure it's recoverable. it's bad not to install updates, thouzgh, unless you never connect this system to the internet or to any network where other computers are on the internet.
[08:38] <mikeplus32> is there a way to systematically find these old ppa packages, and install them again from the main repos?
[08:38] <kristhian> tomreyn, if i fix this then i will update it
[08:40] <tomreyn> kristhian: okay, i still suggest booting off the install / recovery media you had already used earlier when you were trying the chroot stuff.
[08:40] <mikeplus32> huh, reinstalling kwayland-data fixed everything all the way up (but surely there's more... i had kubuntu-backports on 16.04, but i couldn't ppa-purge it; ppa-purge complained a package list couldn't be found)
[08:41] <kristhian> booting off? shutting it down?
[08:41] <tomreyn> kristhian: reboot from the dvd-rom/cd-rom/usb stick you used earlier when trying the chroot stuff
[08:42] <kristhian> i did
[08:42] <kristhian> i mean i just shut it down, then came back
[08:42] <tomreyn> kristhian: okay so you have a fully booted system now and can enter commands, no kernel panic right now?
[08:43] <kristhian> i am in a live media
[08:44] <kristhian> i just tried try ubuntu without installation
[08:44] <tomreyn> kristhian: okay good. do you have internet access there now?
[08:44] <kristhian> yes i do
[08:46] <tomreyn> kristhian: looks like i missed you posting the lsblk output here earlier. i just saw it now. please make sure you prefix your chat by the name of the person you are addressing to catch their attention.
[08:46] <kristhian> tomreyn, ok
[08:46] <kristhian> sorry about that
[08:47] <tomreyn> kristhian: that's fine, i'm just trying to prevent missing what you say again ;)
[08:47] <kristhian> ok, tomreyn what should i do next btw?
[08:49] <tomreyn> kristhian: so you have 5 hard disk partitons there. sda1, sda2, sda3, sda5 and sda6. sda6 is swap. the others we do not really know, yet. we need to find the partiton which contains your /boot directory.
[08:50] <tomreyn> kristhian: as well as the one containing your / directory (when botting from the hdd that is).
[08:50] <kristhian> ok
[08:51] <kristhian> sda1 is windows i think tomreyn
[08:51] <tomreyn> kristhian: sudo parted print /dev/sda | nc termbin.com 9999
[08:51] <kristhian> ls -l sda2
[08:51] <kristhian> ok
[08:51] <tomreyn> kristhian: this should tell us how its partitioned
[08:52] <tomreyn> kristhian: sorry, that command was wrong
[08:52] <tomreyn> kristhian: sudo parted /dev/sda print | nc termbin.com 9999
[08:52] <kristhian> http://termbin.com/j1jx
[08:53] <tomreyn> kristhian: please do it again, this time using the corrected command line
[08:53] <kristhian> oh, it could not stat device print
[08:53] <kristhian> sorry
[08:53] <tomreyn> kristhian: my fault ;)
[08:54] <CTxCB> Hi all, I'd love some advice about installing Ubuntu. So... My laptop's hard drive entirely failed, died, ceased to work. It also doesn't have a CD Drive. I don't have the money for a replacement hard drive right now, so I got a 64GB USB Stick from a friend that he didn't need. Can I install Ubuntu from my friends laptop he's letting me borrow to my laptop, to install it onto the USB stick which would be plugged into the laptop? Is tha
[08:55] <Ben64> CTxCB: you can run a live version from the stick
[08:55] <CTxCB> Ben64: I know that, but I want to actually install stuff to it. Use it as if it's an actual operating system.
[08:56] <Ben64> CTxCB: look into "persistence"
[08:56] <kristhian> tomreyn, http://termbin.com/910g
[08:57] <CTxCB> So, it isn't possible to install Ubuntu to a USB Stick as if it's a HDD, then?
[08:57] <akik> CTxCB: yes you can install ubuntu on an usb stick as you would on an hdd/ssd
[08:57] <Ben64> CTxCB: it is, but it's impossibly slow
[08:57] <CTxCB> Does that depend on the Read / Write Speed of the USB Stick?
[08:58] <Ben64> partially
[08:58] <akik> not impossibly slow. i used it with a usb 2.0 stick and it was usable
[08:58] <Ben64> live usb with persistence is better
[08:59] <tomreyn> kristhian: okay, so /dev/sda5 is your / and there is no separate /boot. i.e. you just need to mount /dev/sda5 to /mnt and then chroot to it (but we should also mount some of the virutal file systems before actually chrooting)
[09:00] <CTxCB> akik: This is the USB stick - https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B016E7EBPM/
[09:00] <kristhian> copy
[09:00] <akik> CTxCB: go for usb 3.0 if your computer supports it
[09:01] <kristhian> tomreyn, done, what do we need to do next?
[09:01] <CTxCB> My computer doesn't support it, sadly.
[09:01] <kristhian> i mean what should we mount next?
[09:02] <tomreyn> kristhian: sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt; sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev; sudo mount --bind /proc /mnt/proc; sudo mount --bind /sys /mnt/sys; sudo cp /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/etc/resolv.conf; sudo chroot /mnt
[09:03] <akik> CTxCB: if you got with the full installation, you might get a better user experience with lubuntu de
[09:03] <kristhian> --bind just sets another directory to /mnt?
[09:03] <kristhian> is that correct tomreyn?
[09:04] <tomreyn> kristhian: --bind 'copies' an existing mount poiint (without actually copying the data around) to a different location; i.e. it just places another entry point to that previously existing mount at some other path.
[09:06] <tomreyn> kristhian: if you run 'mount' before doing the chroot you will notice that there is already something mounted to /dev, /proc and /sys
[09:06] <tomreyn> those are just mapped to the same locations below /mnt/
[09:07] <kristhian> tomreyn, chroot fails
[09:07] <tomreyn> kristhian: giving an error message?
[09:07] <kristhian>  chroot: failed to run command ‘/bin/bash’: Exec format error
[09:07] <tomreyn> kristhian: did any of the earlier commands fail?
[09:07] <kristhian> actually no
[09:07] <kristhian> only chroot
[09:08] <tomreyn> kristhian: i assume your installed system is a 64-bit system and your live media is a 32-bit one, or vice versa.
[09:09] <tomreyn> https://askubuntu.com/questions/14280/during-a-chroot-attempt-i-got-this-error-chroot-failed-to-run-command-bin
[09:09] <kristhian> oh i correct that is the case
[09:10] <tomreyn> you won't be able to use this live media to fix your broken system. you'll need to create one for the right ubuntu architecture
[09:12] <kristhian> can i download 16.04 and use that as a live media to recover a 14.04 hdd?
[09:12] <kristhian> is that possible tomreyn?
[09:12] <tomreyn> kristhian: i would not reocmmend it. better download 14.04 amd64 and use that
[09:13] <kristhian> ok, tomreyn can you link me to old os of ubuntu?
[09:13] <kristhian> i mean can you give me a link of that?
[09:13] <kristhian> please
[09:15] <tomreyn> kristhian: http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04.5/ubuntu-14.04.5-desktop-amd64.iso
[09:15] <tomreyn> http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04.5/
[09:17] <tomreyn> kristhian: i am assuming that your existing live cd is i386 and your HD installation is amd64 there, a fact we have not proven (but you seemed to say that's the case).
[09:17] <kristhian> tomreyn, another thing
[09:17] <kristhian> tomreyn, i forgot that i am using a laptop that is 64bit
[09:18] <kristhian> i removed this from my old laptop with a broken lcd and flex cable
[09:18] <kristhian> it is 32 bit, that is why the architecture is not correct
[09:18] <kristhian> i am downloading the OS now, i hope that you will be around later in helping me fix the issue
[09:18] <tomreyn> kristhian: what is 'this', the HDD?
[09:19] <kristhian> sorry, i completely lost it
[09:19] <kristhian> yes the hdd is 64 bit i think
[09:19] <kristhian> then i installed a 32 bit 14.04 os to it
[09:22] <tomreyn> kristhian: HDDs do not have a machine architecture, they work with either. the ubuntu installed on it will be either built for a 32-bit (i386/i486/i686) or 64-bit (amd64) architecture.
[09:23] <tomreyn> kristhian: i assume you are saying that your old laptop, which got broken, had a 32-bit CPU architecture, which means you had to run a 32-bitr ubuntu OS on it. and your new laptop is a 64-bit CPU architecture, allowing you to run either a 32-bit or 64-bit OS on it.
[09:23] <kristhian> actually i do not know, because i just get this hdd from a laptop with a broken monitor and tried to fix this with another laptop
[09:24] <kristhian> tomreyn, i guess that is it
[09:24] <kristhian> sorry for the confusion
[09:24] <tomreyn> kristhian: no problem, this stuff isn't always easy to understand.
[09:25] <kristhian> tomreyn, thanks and i hope that you will still be here after i completely finish the amd64 architecture
[09:27] <tomreyn> kristhian: me or someone else will likely be able to help as long as you can explain what your situation is and what you are triny gto achieve there will be several folks around here who can help.
[09:27] <tomreyn> * trying to achieve
[09:27] <kristhian> tomreyn, ok thanks
[09:27] <kristhian> i am making my own documentations as well for this fix
[09:28] <tomreyn> thumbs up! ;)
[09:29] <kristhian> thanks tomreyn
[09:57] <Matt1234> Hello, I am trying to install Ubuntu, everything works in the installation environment, but once I boot into the system, the mouse and keyboard aren't working, and the video resolution is low
[09:59] <fx9> hi how would you go about downloading the ubuntu file on this page in terminal? http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDGPU-PRO-Driver-for-Linux-Release-Notes.aspx
[09:59] <fx9> it seems it fails with wget and curl and links
[10:00] <fx9> the file is 116mb
[10:05] <tomreyn> fx9: wget --referer http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDGPU-PRO-Driver-for-Linux-Release-Notes.aspx https://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ubuntu/amdgpu-pro-17.10-414273.tar.xz
[10:06] <fx9> oh thanks
[10:06] <fx9> not use to links like these
[10:08] <tomreyn> Matt1234: that's quite special (i don't know if i'll be able to help), i've never had the keyboard not working. what hardware is this computer, and is it a special keyboard?
[10:09] <Matt1234> tomreyn: I'm not exactly sure what the hardware is, it's an old machine. The keyboard is a wireless USB keyboard
[10:09] <Matt1234> (The mouse uses the same USB receiver)
[10:10] <tomreyn> Matt1234: does it have both usb and ps/2 connectors? you could try the other option if so
[10:10] <Matt1234> No, just USB. The wireless mouse and keyboard have a Trust logo and an unreadable URL on them
[10:11] <tomreyn> Matt1234: to get a better idea of the hardware, run lshw, dmidecode or hwinfo in a terminal on the live system
[10:11] <Matt1234> They work perfectly fine in the live environment, but not in the installed system
[10:11] <tomreyn> yes thats weird
[10:12] <Matt1234> tomreyn: Okay, I will do that, let me boot into the live environment
[10:12] <anddam> hello
[10:12] <Matt1234> I'm currently trying to download a newer version of Ubuntu onto the USB stick, to see if that fixes anything after installation
[10:13] <Matt1234> But It will take a long time to download
[10:13] <anddam> on 16.05 when I click on the menu bar > speaker icon > Rhythmbox I see the Rhythmbox icon bouncing in Launcher but not popping out to foreground
[10:13] <anddam> and the app was already open at this point, I see this happening as well with files opened from browser
[10:14] <anddam> is there a setting for controlling this? seems that other graphical program are "bound backward"
[10:15] <Matt1234> tomreyn: I'm booted into the live environment, what should I look for in lshw output?
[10:17] <tomreyn> Matt1234: i'm not sure really, but we can look together if you'll run it again and post the output to the internet: sudo lshw | nc termbin 9999
[10:18] <tomreyn> Matt1234: sorry, i had a typo there: sudo lshw | nc termbin.com 9999
[10:19] <Matt1234> termbin.com/ewgm
[10:20] <tomreyn> old indeed
[10:21] <glitsj16> anddam: I don't recognize any of the things you describe, nor do I know of any setting you could try.. it might be helpful to get error messages.. anything relevant in journalctl you can provide to the channel? or try starting rhythmbox via terminal, that way it might throw something useful also.. just a thought to enhance your chances of getting effective help in here..
[10:25] <tomreyn> Matt1234: i don't see anything obviously problematic there. maybe if you'll mnount the file system of the hard disk you installed to (and tried booting from) and check syslog and Xorg.*.log there you'll have a better idea of what's going wrong there.
[10:27] <tomreyn> Matt1234: also, while booting from the hard disk installation, did you try to press ctrl-alt-f1 and login on the terminal? i.e. did the keyboard not work there either (i.e. was it not just broken on the graphical login manager)?
[10:29] <Matt1234> tomreyn: I didn't, but I set it to boot to desktop, and nothing responded there either
[10:30] <Matt1234> It looks like X recognizes the mouse and keyboard, according to Xorg.0.log
[10:30] <Matt1234> evdev: Trust Wireless Keyboard & Mouse: Device: "/dev/input/event3"
[10:31] <tomreyn>  Matt1234 Xorg.0.log oon the HDD or on the live system?
[10:31] <Matt1234> On the harddrive
[10:32] <tomreyn> hmm that puzzles me even more then
[10:33] <tomreyn> personally i'd still want to know whether the hdd installation takes any keyboard input at all (i.e. on a terminal), and whether grub does.
[10:34] <Matt1234> Well, Ubuntu 17.04 is almost downloaded in unetbootin, I'll plug the usb drive in again, and try to reinstall from scratch
[10:35] <tomreyn> what did you install last time? 16.04?
[10:35] <Matt1234> It was 14.x I think
[10:36] <kristhian> sorry got disconnected
[10:36] <kristhian> im done with my install now
[10:36] <kristhian> tomreyn, still here?
[10:36] <tomreyn> i see. i would suggest trying another lts first, but since you already have 17.04 ready to go...
[10:36] <tomreyn> Matt1234: ^
[10:36] <tomreyn> kristhian: yes ;)
[10:38] <tomreyn> kristhian: what did you install where?
[10:40] <kristhian> tomreyn, just a minute my laptop run out of battery
[10:40] <kristhian> sorry
[10:45] <kristhian> tomreyn, i did it successfully this time with chroot
[10:46] <tomreyn> kristhian: oh very well. so you'r ein the chroot and ready to fix the kernel from there, or did you already do that?
[10:47] <en01> Sup
[10:47] <kristhian> tomreyn, just waiting for your instructions
[10:47] <kristhian> i am on the chroot, and will be fixing the kernel with your help
[10:47] <kristhian> :)
[10:48] <tomreyn> kristhian: you should install all pending updates first of all. apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade -V
[10:48] <en01> You guys know how i can stop my Nick Name from automatically changing to an already taken nickname i choose by mistake?
[10:48] <en01> each time i exit and come back to the IRC it changes!
[10:48] <tomreyn> kristhian: apt-get update should not report any errors.
[10:49] <kristhian> tomreyn, copy
[10:49] <kristhian> -V <- verbrose?
[10:49] <kristhian> correct?
[10:49] <en01> This is the name i want. I already registered it but it keeps changing with each login
[10:49] <tomreyn> kristhian: in this case, it shows the versions of the currently installed and upgrade package
[10:49] <en01> -VV for double verbose
[10:50] <en01> -vv
[10:50] <tomreyn> en01: try asking in #freenode
[10:50] <kristhian> it says here that dpkg was interrupted and i should run sudo dpkg --configure
[10:50] <kristhian> will i do that?
[10:50] <tomreyn> kristhian: yes
[10:51] <kristhian> sudo dpkg --configure -a i mean
[10:51] <tomreyn> right
[10:51] <kristhian> what does the -a option means btw?
[10:51] <tomreyn> all
[10:51] <kristhian> i see, ok
[10:51] <kristhian> thanks
[10:52] <tomreyn> all packages which have been installed but not yet configured will be configured by this command
[10:52] <en01> tomreyn thanks
[10:52] <kristhian> it prompts me to configuring lissl1.0.0:amd64
[10:52] <kristhian> which i should choose yes or no, do you want to see it?
[10:52] <kristhian> or should i just click yes
[10:53] <tomreyn> kristhian: somehow your previous package installations must have been interrupted, such as by the system getting a hard reboot or freeze.
[10:53] <tomreyn> just configure everything
[10:53] <kristhian> i see, so ill just choose yes
[10:53] <kristhian> ok
[10:58] <kristhian> tomreyn, i was asked by this
[10:58] <kristhian> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/TVsDMMT5/
[11:00] <tomreyn> kristhian: press D to show what would change.
[11:01] <juanonymous> tomreyn, sorry i got disconnected
[11:01] <tomreyn> kristhian: is it possible that you had a failed / interrupted ubuntu release upgrade on this system?
[11:01] <juanonymous> this is kristhian
[11:01] <tomreyn> juanonymous: press D to show what would change.
[11:03] <juanonymous> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/5IhcS6AL/
[11:03] <kristhian> my internet drops when somebody is calling the phone
[11:03] <kristhian> sorry about that
[11:04] <kristhian> tomreyn, this is the change that will happen https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/5IhcS6AL/
[11:04] <Matt1234> Hm, the 17.04 install seems to be failing
[11:04] <Matt1234> It couldn't set the timezone and key layout, and now is stuck at getting time from NTP
[11:05] <Matt1234> "locale: cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory"
[11:06] <tomreyn> kristhian: i think you said you also run windows on this system, in which case you want to press N or O to keep the currently-installed version
[11:07] <tomreyn> Matt1234: this suggests that your installation media was not properly written to the install media, or failed to download completely. do the media check available from the boot menu
[11:07] <tomreyn> ...and check the checksum, too
[11:07] <Matt1234> I don't know if unetbootin checks checksums
[11:07] <tomreyn> i doubt it
[11:08] <tomreyn> !hashes
[11:08] <tomreyn> !md5
[11:09] <Matt1234> Hm, I'm not sure if "check disk for defects" in the boot menu refers the fsck of the harddrive or media checksums
[11:09] <kristhian> tomreyn, copy
[11:09] <Matt1234> Oh, okay. It booted me into Busybox/initramfs
[11:12] <tomreyn> busybox / initramfs would be the wrong place. it's an option in the grub menu of the install media
[11:13] <tomreyn> kristhian: is it still configuring then?
[11:13] <Matt1234> Unetbootin doesn't give me a grub menu, but its own menu
[11:14] <tomreyn> oh ok
[11:17] <kristhian> tomreyn, yes
[11:18] <kristhian> and tomreyn E: Command line option 'V' [from -V] is not understood in combination with the other options.
[11:18] <kristhian> i have issue with V
[11:18] <kristhian> might as well remove that
[11:18] <kristhian> just apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:18] <tomreyn> kristhian: which command were you running there?
[11:18] <kristhian> apt-get dist upgrade -V
[11:18] <kristhian> apt-get dist-upgrade -V
[11:19] <tomreyn> strange, this should work fine on 14.04 and later
[11:19] <tomreyn> but okay, without -V then
[11:19] <cristian_c> hello
[11:20] <cristian_c> I've a ite 9135 dvb chip (with remote control), it uses dvb-afatech9035 driver, and i've typed sudo ir-keytable
[11:20] <cristian_c> ir-keytable and evtest perform successfully keypresses on the remote control. Unfortunately, enabled protocol field is empty and if I try to configure shortcuts in kaffeine, many keys don't work
[11:20] <cristian_c> I've tried to modprobe some nec modules, because the remote control support the nec orotocol, but I don't know how to solve the issue
[11:20] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[11:21] <kristhian> anyways i write it wrong
[11:21] <kristhian> apt-get dis-upgrade that's why it doesnt perform the command
[11:21] <kristhian> but when i typed it correct, this happened
[11:21] <kristhian> E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f
[11:21] <kristhian> so i should apt-get dist-upgrade -f -V this time?
[11:22] <kristhian> tomreyn,
[11:22] <tomreyn> kristhian: first do this: apt-get update && apt-get -f install
[11:24] <kristhian> copy
[11:42] <kristhian> tomreyn, done now should i do apt-get dist-upgrade -V again?
[11:44] <tomreyn> kristhian: yes
[11:45] <tomreyn> and after that post the url returned by: dpkg -l linux-image\* | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:46] <kristhian> copy
[11:46] <kristhian> \* <- means all?
[11:49] <tomreyn> it's a wildcard, yes
[11:57] <Fallenour> hey everyone, is there a way to check the contents of a package, EG sudo apt-get checkcontentspackage openstack
[11:57] <Fallenour> Im trying to find an easier way to build an openstack environment on ubuntu without have to do it piece by piece
[11:59] <kristhian> tomreyn, ok, copy
[11:59] <kristhian> upgrade isnt done yet btw
[12:02] <tomreyn> Fallenour: if you don't have the package installed, assuming you're on 16.04 LTS, https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/all/openstack/filelist
[12:03] <tomreyn> Fallenour: if you have the package installed: dpkg -L openstack
[12:03] <Fallenour> @tomreyn you are amazing
[12:03] <tomreyn> ;)
[12:24] <twoj_> anybody with deeper iptables or route experience?
[12:27] <tomreyn> kristhian: i'll take a nap now. chances are it'll just boot fine once the dist-upgrade is done.
[12:28] <kristhian> tomreyn, ok and thanks for the help
[12:42] <Dexter_F> hi
[12:42] <netcrime> Hey can anyone recommend a tool for monitoring incoming/outgoing http traffic on Ubuntu? Something close to fiddler on windows
[12:43] <Dexter_F> I just added to hdmi switches to my monitors. so far, so good. but when I switch away, ubuntu thinks it lost one monitor in its config and throws it out, rearrangeing the windows. how do I tell it "nah I know, just keep your config, all is well?"
[12:44] <rud0lf> netcrime: maybe nethogs
[12:44] <rud0lf> it shows process name + up/down transfer
[12:44] <netcrime> rud0lf: it has user interaface?
[12:44] <rud0lf> no, it uses terminal
[12:45] <netcrime> Ok i'll check that
[12:45] <netcrime> thanks
[13:33] <plasticfish> I've installed gnome on 16.04 with sudo apt install gnome, but when I try to enter gnome at login, after I put the password, gnome loads and then resets to login again
[13:34] <geirha> try the ubuntu-gnome-desktop package
[13:35] <plasticfish> I don't want to use ubuntu-gnome-desktop, because I still want to use Unity when I want
[13:36] <ikonia> plasticfish: look in the xsession log
[13:36] <ikonia> see what's going on
[13:47] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[13:47] <Dexter_F> heya
[13:49] <geirha> plasticfish: Installing ubuntu-gnome-desktop will not remove Unity
[13:52] <eletious> Hello all - I'm using 16.04 and I've noticed that in the top left corner of the screen, things are blurry - tested in unity and openbox
[13:52] <eletious> any idea what the problem might be?  I'm running at 1440x900
[13:54] <eletious> for further clarification - taking screenshots doesn't show the issue, it's like it's drawing pixels that don't actually match the screen
[13:54] <blastis> ok, who's got some problems they need fixin?
[13:55] <eletious> this guy right here
[13:56] <eletious> ive got an issue where the left side of my display is blurry - i'm not really sure why but it looks like somehow it's blending pixels together on that side of the screen
[13:56] <eletious> taking a screenshot doesn't really show the problem, so ubuntu thinks it's doing the right thing
[13:56] <blastis> this from direct display? or from a screenshot perhaps?
[13:56] <blastis> ok
[13:56] <blastis> sounds like bad hardware or bad driver
[13:56] <blastis> ok, next
[13:56] <ikonia> blastis: no
[13:56] <blastis> ;-)
[13:56] <blastis> jk
[13:56] <ikonia> stop
[13:56] <ikonia> this is not how people are helped
[13:56] <eletious> oh good lord
[13:56] <blastis> ikonia, no kidding
[13:57] <blastis> eletious, is this at startup? or does it stay like this all the time?
[13:57] <blastis> if you boot into an another OS, does it do the same there?
[13:57] <eletious> this is at all times
[13:57] <eletious> i could try it in another OS but I think the problem may persist
[13:57] <blastis> well if it does it for say Windows, likely you've got a hardware problem.
[13:58] <eletious> i hadn't ruled bad hardware out, considering this is some ollllllld hardware
[13:58] <blastis> so that would be a quick way to rule it out
[13:58] <eletious> but given the nature of the issue it doesn't -seem- like a hardware problem, you know?
[13:58] <blastis> well check that out and let us know if it persists there.
[13:58] <eletious> unless the monitor is trash
[13:58] <eletious> alright, will do
[13:58] <blastis> that's what I'm thinking but hopefully it's something simple.
[14:01] <blastis> ok, next?
[14:06] <eletious> hey, so the issue persisted, but i found out what the issue was
[14:07] <eletious> some yahoo messed with my monitor settings and turned the sharpness to like 30 and the contrast to 80
[14:07] <eletious> so that's been fixed, and the weird blur is gone
[14:07] <eletious> thanks for the input blastis
[14:12] <obinoob> how can I solve this  mysql-server-5.6 : Depends: mysql-common (>= 5.6.22-1~) but 5.5.55-0ubuntu0.14.04.1 is to be installed
[14:12] <ikonia> obinoob: don't use external repos/ppas ?
[14:17] <obinoob> ikonia: I need 5.6 because of a special database that makes use of datetime / timestamp and I can't simply go thought the database and update the all application would be a monumental task
[14:17] <ikonia> obinoob: where are you getting 5.6 from ?
[14:18] <obinoob> and I can't upgrade the server to ubuntu 16
[14:18] <obinoob> ondrej
[14:18] <ikonia> where ?
[14:19] <obinoob> I think the ppa is broken and I just removed it now I need to install 5.6 in ubuntu 14.04
[14:19] <ikonia> so you where getting it from a PPA
[14:19] <ikonia> which PPA ?
[14:20] <blastis> eletious, np .. make sure your server is plugged up... make sure your monitor is turned on... make sure your monitor's contrast hasn't been frigged with ...
[14:20] <blastis> lol ;-)
[14:20] <obinoob> ikonia: ppa:ondrej/mysql-5.6
[14:20] <blastis> dont put your coffee cup in the cd holder ... yada yada
[14:21] <ikonia> obinoob: ok - so if you want to use his PPA and it's not providing the correct dependencies, he is the person you need to talk to
[14:21] <obinoob> ikonia: I've removed the ppa
[14:21] <blastis> checkout #mycrappyrepo for support
[14:21] <obinoob> I'm not using it anymore
[14:21] <ikonia> blastis: enough now
[14:21] <kristhian> hello what is the solution if i run into this error?
[14:21] <kristhian> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[14:21] <ikonia> blastis: this is not how the channel wants input
[14:21] <kristhian> hello ikonia, good pm
[14:21] <ikonia> kristhian: hello
[14:21] <ikonia> kristhian: you'll need more error detail to fix that
[14:21] <blastis> sorry ikonia ... you're right :'(
[14:22] <ikonia> blastis: it's not a problem, please, just focus on actually adding value to someones support request if possible
[14:22] <blastis> yes you're right
[14:22] <blastis> very sorry
[14:22] <ikonia> blastis: no problem
[14:22] <kristhian> ikonia, sorry about that
[14:22] <kristhian> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/ZJ3OJYhm/
[14:23] <ikonia> kristhian: no need for sorry
[14:23] <obinoob> blastis: I forgive you :) ok so now what should I do?
[14:23] <ikonia> kristhian: what are you actually doing -what command did you run
[14:24] <kristhian> actually i am fixing a kernel panic issue, which tomreyn help me out
[14:24] <kristhian> the command of that is apt-get install dist-upgrade
[14:24] <ikonia> kristhian: you;re trying to install a package called "dist-upgrade" ?
[14:24] <kristhian> apt-get install dist-upgrade -V to be specific
[14:24] <kristhian> i am sorry
[14:24] <kristhian> no
[14:24] <ikonia> kristhian: don't need to be sorry
[14:25] <kristhian> apt-get dist-upgrade -V
[14:25] <kristhian> i think i will remove this mysql-serve-5.7 and mysql-server for now
[14:25] <ikonia> so straight away you've got mysql 5.7 installed - which I'm guessing comes from an external source
[14:25] <kristhian> it returns and error
[14:26] <kristhian> ikonia, i think so. i forgot where i get it, if it's from source or from repo, using sudo
[14:26] <kristhian> sudo apt-get install i mean
[14:26] <ikonia> it won't be from a source build, but it will certainly be from an external repo
[14:26] <ikonia> kristhian: what version of ubuntu are you running ?
[14:27] <kristhian> the one i am trying to fix is ubuntu 14.04
[14:27] <kristhian> an old ubuntu version
[14:27] <ikonia> it's a current LTS stable release
[14:27] <kristhian> ikonia, yes
[14:28] <ikonia> kristhian: I suspect you're going to have problems with PPA's (I'd guess you have some configured) as people will lose interest and stop supporting/maintaining their older 14.04 PPA's for the current 16.04 builds
[14:29] <kristhian> ok so, what will be an alternative solution for this?
[14:29] <kristhian> will i remove mysql?
[14:29] <ikonia> solution for what exactly ?
[14:29] <kristhian> to boot in properly, because i had a kernel panic with this version
[14:29] <ikonia> hang on - boot properly ?
[14:30] <kristhian> and there are some files i wanted to get from this
[14:30] <kristhian> ikonia, yes
[14:30] <ikonia> thats very different than the apt-get problem you just pasted
[14:31] <ikonia> kristhian: so what is the problem you are actually trying to fix here
[14:31] <kristhian> ikonia, actually tomreyn is helping me out on this problem, then the last issue i had now is this error code 1
[14:31] <kristhian> which comes from mysql-server-5.7
[14:32] <ikonia> kristhian: do you have any PPA's configured currently on your system, or 3rd party repos
[14:32] <kristhian> ikonia, i think not
[14:32] <ikonia> kristhian: can you confirm/check as you certainly have 3rd party software configured
[14:32] <kristhian> is there a command for that?
[14:33] <kristhian> i mean to chech the PPAs?
[14:33] <ikonia> look at your repo source files
[14:33] <kristhian> ok
[14:33] <ikonia> pastebin apt-get update please
[14:35] <tomreyn> hey, i'm back, could take over if you like, ikonia
[14:35] <ikonia> tomreyn: over to you then
[14:35] <tomreyn> thanks
[14:36] <tomreyn> kristhian: are you still on the live system + chroot then?
[14:36] <obinoob> ikonia: I was able to instal successfully mysql-server-5.6 after distro upgrade but now I'm having start: Job failed to start after service mysql start
[14:36] <kristhian> tomreyn, sorry to bother you again, i hope i didnt wake you up by typing your nick
[14:36] <tomreyn> kristhian: you didnt, thanks for the consideration though
[14:37] <kristhian> but thank you tomreyn youre back
[14:37] <tomreyn> kristhian: and you dont bother me
[14:37] <ikonia> obinoob: look at the log to see why it can't stop
[14:38] <tomreyn> kristhian: so are you still on the live system + chroot then?
[14:38] <obinoob> ikonia: https://gist.github.com/fccpt/a97a4dacf7c8818830cca633a470fccf
[14:39] <ikonia> obinoob: so apparmour won't allow the 3rd party application to start
[14:39] <kristhian> tomreyn, yes
[14:39] <kristhian> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Z6w5sbFn/
[14:40] <ikonia> obinoob: you should also look at the mysql log - not just the syslog
[14:40] <kristhian> that is the apt-get update
[14:40] <tomreyn> kristhian: do you know "pastebinit"?
[14:40] <tomreyn> !pastebinit | kristhian
[14:40] <obinoob> ikonia: I've updated the gist
[14:40] <Dave114> making the N+1th attempt to get sound fully working on my system by finally moving from the latest LTS release to the latest release.  Made it from 16.04 -> 16.10 correctly, but 16.10 -> 17.04 is reporting "An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade."
[14:40] <tomreyn> kristhian: it's probably easier than having to copy and paste to irccloud
[14:41] <ikonia> obinoob: so it looks like apparmor is blocking it
[14:41] <ikonia> obinoob: probably because it has no apparmor policy shipped with it
[14:41] <obinoob> ikonia: what can I do?
[14:41] <ikonia> obinoob: write an apparmor policy, ask the repo owner to ship an app armor policy, or disable app armor
[14:42] <kristhian> tomreyn, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24823713/
[14:42] <kristhian> tomreyn, i am using irccloud on the other device that i am fixing
[14:42] <kristhian> because i can't install something on it yet
[14:43] <Dave114> (note that I'm running with 3 APT repos added - skype, slack, google chrome all of which I doubt would be an obstacle.  Deleted the PPAs that I had adding oracle java but that didn't fix things.  Any idea how to get more info out of do-release-upgrade?
[14:43] <tomreyn> kristhian: then you could use termbin instead: echo 'Hello World!' | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:44] <kristhian> tomeryn ok
[14:44] <tomreyn> kristhian: the apt-get update output you just posted looks (almost) fine. about the warning, you should probably: sudo mv /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades.ucf-dist /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades
[14:44] <tomreyn> and then edit /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades if needed.
[14:44] <anddam> glitsj16: there's nothing there
[14:45] <tomreyn> kristhian: this configuration file decides show automatic updates are installed.
[14:45] <kristhian> the apt.conf.d?
[14:46] <anddam> glitsj16: btw I think this may be Rhythmbox signalling that it doesn't want to be put foreground, while first started it will pop out as expected, only if a track is reproduced it won't come in front
[14:46] <tomreyn> kristhian: /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades
[14:46] <kristhian> unattended-upgrades.ucf-dist <- means there are 50 not upgraded files?
[14:46] <kristhian> oh
[14:46] <kristhian> ok
[14:47] <obinoob> ikonia: I can't remove apparmor because I've a local DNS runing... and I'm not using any app for mysql! This is 5.6 from ubuntu universial repository check it out https://gist.github.com/fccpt/a97a4dacf7c8818830cca633a470fccf/edit
[14:47] <tomreyn> kristhian: no, the 50 is just used for sorting these configuration files in the same directory. they are loaded in alphanumeric order.
[14:47] <kristhian> ah i see, ok
[14:48] <kristhian> thank you tomreyn
[14:48] <ikonia> obinoob: doesn't change anything
[14:48] <ikonia> obinoob: and why can't you disable apparmor because you are running local dns ?
[14:48] <ikonia> (I don't think you should disable apparmor - it's there for a reason)
[14:48] <obinoob> ikonia: yes
[14:48] <ikonia> obinoob: yes what ?
[14:48] <obinoob> ikonia: I don't want to
[14:49] <obinoob> I need to start mysql server ;)
[14:49] <ikonia> obinoob: right, so you still have the 3 options Igave you then
[14:49] <kristhian> tomreyn, can i do a quick apt-get update again?
[14:49] <tomreyn> kristhian: the file 50unattended-upgrades.ucf-dist is a file whiuch was extracted from the new 'unattended-upgrades' package you installed recently. it should replace 50unattended-upgrades but dpkg (the package manager) realized that 50unattended-upgrades had been manually modified by you at some point. so it did not just overwrite it with the new version and instead created this separate file.
[14:50] <kristhian> i just moved the unanttended upgrades
[14:50] <obinoob> ikonia: so I guess I will write an app policy, so now how it's done ?
[14:50] <kristhian> tomreyn, i see, ok. yes i did modified some things manually
[14:50] <tomreyn> kristhian: please run: (apt-get update 2>&1 && dpkg --configure -a 2>&1 && apt-get -f install 2>&1) | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:50] <ikonia> obinoob: there is a guide on the apparmor page
[14:50] <ikonia> (pages)
[14:51] <ikonia> obinoob: may want to check if there is a bug logged against the universe package, as I'd be dissapointed if the ubuntu repo didn't ship a policy to start it
[14:51] <obinoob> ikonia: how can i check that?
[14:52] <kristhian> tomreyn, what does that command do btw?
[14:52] <kristhian> 2>&1 is a dev/null?
[14:52] <kristhian> std input output i mean
[14:54] <tomreyn> kristhian: when a command runs, it can output stuff to either 'standard output' (1) or 'standard error (output)' (2). normally, when you run a command on screne you'll see botht hings show up there. but when you use 'pipe' to pass the output of one command to another ('nc' here) then only standard output would be passed on. the 2>&1 adds all the error output to the standard output so that all the output actually gets to the pipe and to nc
[14:56] <kristhian> tomreyn, actually the | doesnt work
[14:56] <kristhian> so i guess i should paste the issue here using pastebin instead
[14:56] <tomreyn> kristhian: can you be more specific?
[14:56] <tomreyn> works, too
[14:57] <tomreyn> but | should have worked
[14:57] <kristhian> works to supposed to have a link
[14:58] <kristhian> tomreyn, this is the only thing it gets
[14:58] <kristhian> the netcat
[14:58] <kristhian> http://termbin.com/yuxo
[14:59] <tomreyn> maybe there was a prompt and that broke it
[14:59] <kristhian> yep i guess
[14:59] <tomreyn> kristhian: okay, please copy + paste this time ;)
[14:59] <kristhian> but i have errors without the pipe
[14:59] <kristhian> https://pastebin.com/SjVGpV3u
[15:00] <tomreyn> kristhian: is removing the mysql server tempoirarily an option for you?
[15:01] <kristhian> nope
[15:01] <kristhian> it's ok, i just want to confirm if removing it will break the fix
[15:02] <kristhian> i mean yes, it's ok
[15:02] <oerheks_> "the fix" seems to have broken your install
[15:02] <tomreyn> kristhian: i can't follow, what would you like to confirm?
[15:02] <kristhian> removing the mysql-server
[15:02] <kristhian> if i remove it, will it break the fix?
[15:02] <tomreyn> kristhian: this would remove the mysql server packages: dpkg -r mysql-server-5.7  mysql-server
[15:03] <kristhian> ok
[15:03] <kristhian> copy
[15:03] <kristhian> ok done
[15:03] <kristhian> well i try apt-get update again?
[15:04] <tomreyn> kristhian: removing the mysql server packages will not have an impact on whether or not you can boot to a working kernel. it will, however, allow us to proceed with fixing your apckage management system. which may then allow us to install a working kernel image.
[15:04] <kristhian> tomreyn, done
[15:04] <tomreyn> kristhian: what is done?
[15:05] <kristhian> tomreyn, removing the mysql server
[15:05] <tomreyn> kristhian: okay, so run: dpkg --configure --all
[15:05] <tomreyn> any errors or prompts there?
[15:05] <kristhian> unknown option --all
[15:05] <kristhian> is that -all?
[15:06] <tomreyn> kristhian: okay, so run: dpkg --configure -a
[15:06] <tomreyn> sorry ;)
[15:06] <kristhian> there is a conflicting actions -l (--list) and (--configure)
[15:07] <tomreyn> kristhian: you must have had a typo
[15:08] <tomreyn> there was no 'l' in the command i typed last
[15:08] <kristhian> aw yes
[15:08] <kristhian> sorry i did dpkg --configure -all
[15:08] <kristhian> instead of a
[15:08] <tomreyn> okay, what does it say?
[15:09] <kristhian> actually nothing
[15:09] <kristhian> root@ubuntu:/# dpkg --configure -a
[15:09] <kristhian> root@ubuntu:/#
[15:09] <tomreyn> kristhian: okay, now: apt-get -f install
[15:10] <tomreyn> kristhian: and then, if nho errors or warnings: apt-get dist-upgrade -V
[15:11] <kristhian> copy
[15:11] <kristhian> tomreyn, done
[15:11] <kristhian> no errors like the one before
[15:11] <kristhian> Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
[15:11] <kristhian> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[15:12] <kristhian> i mean that is the last two part of the apt-get -f install and apt-get dist-upgrade -V
[15:13] <tomreyn> kristhian: okay, how many packages does it want to remove when you run "apt autoremove"?
[15:14] <tomreyn> (i think it will prompt before it does it)
[15:14] <kristhian> tomreyn, i couldnt tell there are too many of them
[15:14] <kristhian> wait
[15:14] <kristhian> ill send you a pastebin
[15:15] <tomreyn> btw you could now install pastebinit if you like to
[15:16] <kristhian> yes, sorry pastebinit
[15:16] <kristhian> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24823949/
[15:17] <tomreyn> kristhian: is this supposed to be a desktop / workstation or a server?
[15:17] <kristhian> tomreyn, yes
[15:18] <tomreyn> kristhian: is it a desktop / workstation? or is it a server?
[15:18] <kristhian> a desktop workstation
[15:18] <twoj_> how do you change the NIC names in 17.04?    adding  /etc/udev/rules.d/1-network.rules  did not work for me?
[15:19] <tomreyn> kristhian: you removed network manager, is this on prupose then?
[15:19] <kristhian> actually i didnt know, i dont know what i am doing manually lately
[15:19] <kristhian> so i guess i just return it back later, if i removed it
[15:20] <tomreyn> kristhian: this software is used to manage your network connection. without a network connection, putting things back later might proove difficult.
[15:21] <kristhian> oh sorry
[15:21] <kristhian> can i reinstall it again?
[15:21] <tomreyn> kristhian: do oyu know which grpahical desktop you are / were using? the default unity, gnome, kde, xubuntu, lubuntu?
[15:21] <akik> twoj_: here's the udev rule i use: SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", ATTR{address}=="00:e0:4c:68:00:b6", NAME="eth1"
[15:22] <twoj_> akik, thanks I have that as well,  but it does not seem to fire?
[15:22] <akik> twoj_: that changes the device name of an usb-ethernet device to eth1
[15:22] <kristhian> the default unity tomreyn
[15:22] <akik> twoj_: i wonder if you also need the kernel parameter net.ifnames=0
[15:23] <tomreyn> kristhian: then i suggest you run: apt-get install ubuntu-dektop
[15:23] <twoj_> akik, is that the only thing that is in the .rules file?
[15:23] <kristhian> copu
[15:23] <akik> twoj_: yes
[15:23] <twoj_> akik, where is net.ifname=0?  what file?
[15:23] <tomreyn> !info ubuntu-desktop trusty
[15:24] <akik> twoj_: it goes into /etc/default/grub file on the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT= line
[15:25] <twoj_> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=net.ifnames=0 ?
[15:26] <akik> twoj_: add it to the values you have there
[15:27] <akik> twoj_: with "net.ifnames=0"
[15:27] <twoj_> akik,="quiet splash"
[15:27] <twoj_> akik, so now = "quiet splash, et.ifname=0" ?
[15:28] <oerheks_> net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0 & update grub
[15:28] <akik> twoj_: use a space between
[15:28] <twoj_> got it.
[15:29] <twoj_> restarting...  and crossing fingers
[15:29] <akik> twoj_: this changes the naming of your network interfaces
[15:30] <akik> twoj_: i would have guessed that the udev rule would have been enough
[15:30] <twoj_> crap...  no good
[15:31] <akik> twoj_: check the udev rule again
[15:31] <kristhian> tomreyn, done installing ubuntu-desktop
[15:31] <akik> twoj_: i have it as 10-network.rules
[15:32] <oerheks_> twoj_, did you update-grub?
[15:32] <annihilator> i have an issue where i cannot open links from other programs
[15:32] <annihilator> ubuntu 17.04
[15:32] <annihilator> using chrome
[15:33] <tomreyn> kristhian: can you show a fresh output of 'apt update && apt autoremove'?
[15:33] <kristhian> apt update && apt autoremove | pastebinit
[15:35] <tomreyn> apt update 2>&1 && apt autoremove 2>&1 | pastebinit
[15:35] <tomreyn> ( apt update 2>&1 && apt autoremove 2>&1 ) | pastebinit
[15:35] <kristhian> actually it shows me warning noww
[15:36] <kristhian> warning: apt  does not have a stable CLI interface. use with caution in scripts
[15:36] <tomreyn> yes, you can ignore this for now
[15:36] <kristhian> and actually i got stuck
[15:37] <jost> Hi! I'm on XUbuntu (recently updated from 16.04 to 17.04) and copying stuff onto an SD card. But for some reason, Writing to an SD card is really slow (2-3MB/s). It does not matter how the SD-Card is connected, either via an USB card reader or an SD card slot directly in the computer case. Also, everything else slows down,  to the point that hearing music on Youtube becomes unbearable. Is there something I can do to fix this? I've already switch
[15:37] <jost> ed the IO scheduler for the card to "deadline".
[15:37] <jost> Now it gives me somewhat more realistic info about the progress in the file manager, but it's still slow
[15:39] <annihilator> i still cant figure out how to open a link correctly
[15:39] <jost> this wasn't a problem at earlier points in time
[15:40] <kristhian> tomreyn, i got stuck will i just ctrl+c?
[15:41] <twoj_> akik, are the MAC letters case sensitive?
[15:41] <annihilator> jost, I woud troubleshoot.  does the sd card work correctly in another pc? does this slow down also occur using ubuntu/xubuntu live cd/usb?
[15:42] <annihilator> cause the slow down could be xubuntu, the sd card itself, or the system board
[15:42] <jost> annihilator: no idea, I have no other machine here to test it, and the next one is 1 hour away
[15:42] <annihilator> do you have another sd card?
[15:42] <jost> I'm trying some things I found on google
[15:42] <jost> nope, nothing I'd like to write to
[15:43] <annihilator> ?
[15:43] <annihilator> well if you have an sd card you dont want to use then try writing to the sd card using a live cd
[15:43] <jost> adding vm.dirty_background_ratio = 5 and vm.dirty_ratio = 10 to /etc/sysctl.conf for example
[15:44] <kristhian> tomreyn, done but i just did a apt update && apt autoremove
[15:44] <jost> annihilator: no CD drive, and no USB stick here :/
[15:44] <akik> twoj_: i don't know. the one i pasted here works for me(tm)
[15:45] <jost> sorry, but a such diagnostics aren't just possible right now :(
[15:45] <tomreyn> kristhian: okay, can i see the output?
[15:45] <akik> twoj_: did you run sudo update-grub ?
[15:45] <twoj_> I have GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT= "quiet splash net.ifnames=0"    I thought reboot would reset it?!
[15:46] <akik> twoj_: update-grub updates the grub config. you still need to reboot
[15:46] <kristhian> tomreyn,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/24824143/
[15:47] <kristhian> it's all that ive got since i just did apt update && apt autoremove lately
[15:47] <kristhian> i just copied them from the terminal
[15:48] <twoj_> did not update grub...  doing it now and restarting
[15:48] <tomreyn> kristhian: okay, good, so these packages are now removed, right?
[15:49] <kristhian> tomreyn, yes
[15:50] <tomreyn> kristhian: then run ' apt-get dist-upgrade ' again, does it do anything now?
[15:50] <kristhian> actually nope
[15:50] <kristhian> 0 upgraded and 0 newly installed
[15:50] <Nobun> join #ubuntu-it
[15:51] <kristhian> 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[15:51] <tomreyn> kristhian: something you need to know for the future: just removing a (3rd party) package repository does not ensure that packages you installed from there are removed also. instead, they just become untracked and no longer get any (security) updates. and may result in package conflicts.
[15:52] <twoj_> Oh my..........   the nics changed, but now they are eth0 and eth1  and that is not what I named them.
[15:52] <tomreyn> kristhian: can you show this again, please: dpkg -l linux-image\*
[15:54] <kristhian> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24824203/ tomreyn
[15:54] <twoj_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24824206/
[15:55] <tomreyn> kristhian: and 'lsb_release -sd' says? (you can pastte the single line of output here directly.
[15:56] <kristhian> it becomes Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS
[15:56] <twoj_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24824219/  with grub contents
[15:57] <tomreyn> kristhian: did you not say this was ubuntu 14.04 LTS (trusty)? or am i making this up?
[15:57] <kristhian> the os i installed is 14.04 LTS trusty
[15:57] <kristhian> i mean the disk image
[15:59] <sjuxax> Hello. I have an ArchLinux host and ArchLinux and Ubuntu guests configured through libvirt/virsh. I am expecting to see the balloon drivers on these guests auto-deflate as memory pressure increases, but this doesn't seem to happen. Everything I find online about auto-deflate not working is from like 3 years ago. What am I missing?
[15:59] <tomreyn> kristhian: well the system on your hard disk thinks it is ubuntu 16.04 lts, and that's what you have in /etc/apt/sources.list, too
[16:00] <tomreyn> kristhian: looks like, as a result, we upgraded your system in an inofficial way there.
[16:01] <tomreyn> kristhian: it is less broken now than before, though
[16:01] <kristhian> i see, so well i recover from the kernel panic?
[16:01] <kristhian> i see, ok
[16:01] <kristhian> what will i do next btw?
[16:02] <tomreyn> kristhian: if we did not fully break your system by going forward with the inofficial upgrade (which is probably why the kernel failed in the first place) you should be able to boot it now.
[16:03] <n-iCe> hello, how do I determinate if a laptops needs a 64 or 32bits disk
[16:03] <tomreyn> kristhian: at leats you now have a 4.4.0 kernel installed which should work with 16.04
[16:03] <kristhian> tomreyn, will i reboot now and see if it works?
[16:04] <tomreyn> n-iCe: hard disks are not architecture specific, if that's what you mean by 'disk'?
[16:04] <n-iCe> tomreyn: i mean the ubuntu disk
[16:04] <akik> twoj_: where are the mac addresses in ifconfig?
[16:04] <n-iCe> how do I know if I should use a 32 or 64 iso
[16:05] <tomreyn> kristhian: give it a try, it *should* work. we could also try to clean up your package management system more, but that'd be better done after reboot.
[16:05] <tomreyn> kristhian: and worst case you can always get back to where you are now, the chroot
[16:05] <twoj_> line 11:  ether 00:0c:29:4d:f8:a2
[16:05] <oerheks_> n-iCe, check your machine with your vendor, or boot a 32 bit iso in live mode, and check the cpu interminal; lscpu
[16:06] <akik> twoj_: is that ubuntu linux?
[16:06] <akik> twoj_: looks so different than 16.04
[16:06] <n-iCe> Intel Core Duo T2400 1.83GHz
[16:07] <akik> twoj_: i have the mac addresses in lower case
[16:07] <tomreyn> n-iCe: very old, but 64-bit
[16:07] <twoj_> there is ip6 stuff there....
[16:07] <n-iCe> 64bit? really? thanks
[16:07] <twoj_> lower case in your rules file?
[16:08] <twoj_> ubuntu 17.04
[16:08] <akik> twoj_: yes in the rules file. the mac is on top in 16.04
[16:09] <tomreyn> n-iCe: sorry, my bad, it's 32-bit
[16:10] <tomreyn> n-iCe: see "instruction set" on http://ark.intel.com/products/27235/Intel-Core-Duo-Processor-T2400-2M-Cache-1_83-GHz-667-MHz-FSB
[16:10] <kristhian> tomreyn, it works now
[16:10] <n-iCe> thanks
[16:10] <kristhian> tomreyn, i will transfer on the laptop first
[16:11] <kristhian> shutting this computer down
[16:11] <kristhian> brb
[16:11] <akik> twoj_: it wouldn't surprise me if the udev functionality would've changed between 16.04 and 17.04
[16:23] <samd> join pyar
[16:26] <kristhian> tomreyn: back and i get to boot in with the system now
[16:31] <twoj_> akik,   same thing....  lower cases did not work
[16:36] <akik> twoj_: you could check journalctl output for udevd
[16:36] <akik> twoj_: journalctl -b 0 | grep udevd
[16:39] <SummerRain> Which ssh client should i use withj Lubuntu ? It has to have ftp access as well.
[16:40] <BluesKaj> su
[16:40] <BluesKaj> SummerRain, ssh in the repos should work
[16:40] <SummerRain> How can i do that? im quite new to linux
[16:41] <akik> SummerRain: are you looking for a gui program. you could use ssh an sftp in the terminal
[16:42] <SummerRain> i wanted a gui program, yes
[16:42] <SummerRain> in windows, i used bitvise
[16:42] <SummerRain> it had the terminal and the ftp
[16:44] <SummerRain> Any tips?
[16:44] <SummerRain> Any tips? @akik
[16:44] <BluesKaj> SummerRain, open the console , sudo apt install ssh
[16:45] <isene> Ubuntu 17.04 - how do I get python support for vim?
[16:45] <isene> (VIM version 8.0.95)
[16:47] <tomreyn> kristhian: okay, now if you'd like to identify the untracked / outdated / insecure packages you still have installed, i wrote a script for this purpose: wget https://raw.githubusercontent.com/tomreyn/scripts/master/foreign_packages; cat foreign_packages; echo; read -p 'Press Enter if you would like to run this downloaded script, or Ctrl-C otherwise. '; chmod +x foreign_packages; sudo apt install apt-show-versions; ./foreign_packages
[16:47] <akik> SummerRain: i think filezilla is for linux also
[16:48] <akik> SummerRain: for ssh people usually use the terminal app
[16:49] <SummerRain> @akik i think thats the best idea
[16:49] <sjuxax> SummerRain: SSH is a way to get a console into the other system. The only "GUI app" for that is a terminal emulator like Konsole or gnome-terminal.
[16:50] <SummerRain> i wish i could add that windows 7 button to lubuntu, to minimize all opened windows
[16:50] <BluesKaj> dunno of any gui for ssh except the networking option in the file manager
[16:51] <Ichimusai> SummerRain: Try pressing win-d
[16:51] <SummerRain> @ichimusai aaaaa
[16:51] <SummerRain> Nice!
[16:52] <SummerRain> I miss the button though :(
[16:59] <twoj_> akik, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24824709/
[17:00] <twoj_> akik, yes, problems.  device busy.  I'm running this in a VM not sure if that should matter....
[17:09] <akik> twoj_: haven't seen that error. try a google search for it
[17:23] <wabbits> hi does the new skype .deb work for ubuntu Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS?
[17:24] <akik> wabbits: yes
[17:24] <wabbits> thanks akik
[17:25] <akik> wabbits: did you try installing it?
[17:25] <wabbits> will try later today, family schedule permitting.
[17:26] <akik> wabbits: you might need a "sudo apt-get -f install" after it
[17:26] <wabbits> akik thanks will make a note
[17:27] <cristian_c> ok, then another question
[17:27] <cristian_c> I'm searching for a way to use a new resolution for employing in a basic projector
[17:28] <cristian_c> I've followed the sequence using cvt, xrandr newmode and xrandr addmode
[17:28] <cristian_c> but when I use xrandr output with the new resolution, I get: xrandr: configure crtc 0 failed
[17:28] <cristian_c> and if I read Xorg.0.log, I find:  (EE) intel(0): failed to set mode: Invalid argument [22]
[17:28] <cristian_c> How could I debug this failure?
[17:28] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[17:31] <ikonia> cristian_c: check your device identify with xrandr --verbose
[17:31] <ikonia> cristian_c: cvt doesn't look like an intel supported device identifier
[17:32] <ikonia> (I could be wrong I'm not reading the intel doc in great detail)
[17:33] <cristian_c> ikonia: ah, ok I didn't know
[17:34] <cristian_c> it's possible
[17:34] <cristian_c> I don't remember if I've already tried xrandr --verbose, but I'll try and I'll ssve the output
[17:35] <cristian_c> (I could try also now, if needed)
[17:35] <cristian_c> ikonia: more exactly, what I've to look for inside xrandr --verbose output?
[17:35] <cristian_c> (btw, thanks for the answer)
[17:35] <ikonia> the device identifier for the projector
[17:36] <cristian_c> ok
[17:36]  * cristian_c gets to connect the projector immediately
[17:48] <royal_screwup21> I have several programs running in the background. What's the quickest way to check which of them is majorly drawing out my CPU's power?
[17:48] <jer> top/htop/etc
[17:49] <Slart> royal_screwup21: there used to be a utility called powertop as well
[17:49] <Slart> royal_screwup21: haven't used it in a while though.. might be outdated.. or not
[17:49] <boredguy> Can't you just use the system monitor?
[17:50] <Slart> royal_screwup21: oh.. perhaps you didn't mean power as in battery charge in a laptop.. then system monitor, htop, top etc is better
[17:50] <royal_screwup21> boredguy I could, but I wouldn't know *which* program is being run with most computational power
[17:51] <royal_screwup21> Slart yup, powertop works too
[17:54] <bmgamer> what is a command I can use to copy the contents of a text file to pastebin
[17:54] <bmgamer> for easy irc sharing
[17:54] <bmgamer> of crash text
[17:55] <bmgamer> Anyone can chime in here :D
[17:55] <majedBahar> hi
[17:55] <majedBahar> first time here
[17:57] <majedBahar> My keyboard becomes unusable during heavy load. It becomes unresponsive and sometime a key stroke registers as multiple. Any thoughts about why?
[17:57] <boredguy> bmgamer:cat or use xclip
[17:57] <bmgamer> I think I got it
[17:57] <glitsj16> bmgamer: pastebinit, you might have to install that.. you can pipe output to it like <command> | pastebinit
[17:57] <bmgamer> I installed pastebinit
[17:58] <bmgamer> Oh thats neat @ glitsj16
[17:58] <glitsj16> bmgamer: then your set to post :)
[17:58] <bmgamer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24825030/
[17:58] <bmgamer> This is the issue I'm having, can anyone tell me whats going wrong?
[17:59] <bmgamer> Trying to Run DOOM 2016 in lutris, thats the crash output
[18:01] <cristian_c> unfortunately, I had got issues about login, but now I've solvdd the access
[18:05] <cristian_c> ikonia: sorry for the mess, Identifier: 0x43
[18:07] <oerheks_> bmgamer, there is a #lutris channel here on #freenode, maybe a better place for application help
[18:10] <cristian_c> ikonia: identifier value pooks like related to vga port
[18:10] <cristian_c> every port has got an identifier with an hex ascending number
[18:10] <cristian_c> (the same for my laptop)
[18:11] <cristian_c> ikonia: have I to pastebin the full output of xrandr --verbose?
[18:28] <energizer> I have no internet access on one computer. I am able to connect to wifi, and have access to router web interface. I have internet on another computer through the same wifi.
[18:28] <energizer> What's going on?
[18:29] <Ben64> wrong default gateway?
[18:29] <jost> energizer: malconfigured network settings? Do you get your IP via DHCP, or is it statically configured, without/with wrong gateway?
[18:30] <energizer> jost: dhcp
[18:30] <jost> energizer: does `route` give you the right information? Correct default gateway?
[18:31] <energizer> jost: its empty
[18:31] <energizer> oh wait just came up
[18:33] <jost> is the default gateway correct? The line should read something like this: default         fritz.box       0.0.0.0         UG    100    0        0 eth0
[18:33] <energizer> solved.
[18:34] <jost> ok :-)
[18:34] <energizer> i had an extra adapter plugged in and they had the same settings
[18:34] <energizer> im not sure why that would break it
[18:34] <energizer> but anyway i unplugged one and it works now
[18:35] <energizer> thanks
[18:36] <fermulator> hey all, i recently switch from lightdm to gdm3 (have always been running gnome3 though); since then my system was crashing gnome after a lock+unlock;  now, even after reboot its permanently stuck and refuses to load gnome-session (gdm correctly prompts for user, but login attempt gets gnome stuck; (although all the auto-start applications try to load)
[18:36] <fermulator> there are a whack of errors about tracker-CRITICAL; https://paste.ubuntu.com/24825263/ -- lots of googling but unable to find solution so far
[18:36] <fermulator> anyone in the loop on some late bugs or something? (system is fully up to date btw; Ubuntu 16.04, kernel 4.4.0-79
[18:38] <fermulator> checking journalctl and excluding tracker... http://paste.ubuntu.com/24825300/ <-- nothing obvious here, so my assumption is that the failed login is due to the tracker errors
[18:38] <ioria> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tracker/+bug/1598814
[18:40] <fermulator> ioria thanks; indeed forgot to mention that one; I had found it and subscribed, but it was originally submitted in 2016...
[18:41] <fermulator> seems unlikely that it's my real root cause of being unable to load gnome-session anymore... (else way more people would be affected I would think)
[18:41] <ioria> fermulator,  2017-05-31, but it does not look lethal ..
[18:41] <ioria> fermulator,  guest account ?
[18:42] <fermulator> ioria; yes, other accounts work (i suppose that hints something about my profile eh... ) -- yesterday I had to delete .Xauthority and .ICEauthority files to get back in; maybe same today; trying
[18:43] <ioria> fermulator,  tried to create a new user ?
[18:43] <fermulator> there was no .Xauthority file (can't re-delete), .ICEAuthority was there, deleted;   still same issue (gnome doesn't properly load)
[18:44] <ioria> fermulator,  have you  tried to create a new user ?
[18:45] <fermulator> ioria, trying that now; works fine
[18:46] <Ben64> fermulator: stop using sudo inappropriately
[18:46] <Ben64> that's what causes this stuff
[18:46] <fermulator> Ben64 which operation was bad/not-recommended?
[18:47] <Ben64> well i don't know what you did
[18:47] <fermulator> a bit of a leap/assumption...
[18:47] <ioria> fermulator,  trying to log in as root, or start X as root, ro wrong compiz settings ... etc. etc ...
[18:47] <Ben64> not really
[18:48] <fermulator> (not denying though that it's possible I broke something)
[18:48] <Ben64> if .Xauthority isn't owned by your user, it's because you did something as not your user to break it
[18:48] <fermulator> i rarely operate in terminal as root, don't startX, don't mess with compiz settings (not running Unity so compiz isn't at play right?)
[18:49] <ioria> fermulator,  ls -al ~/.Xauthority
[18:49] <ioria> fermulator,  if it's ok, try to backup ~./config
[18:49] <ioria> ~/.config
[18:49] <fermulator> ioria that file is moved to .XauthorityTEMP (yesterday had similar issues, renamed it, then was able to login)
[18:50] <Ben64> fermulator: find ~/ \! -user $USER
[18:50] <ioria> fermulator,  that file, can also be removed, will be recreated ....
[18:51] <fermulator> ioria interesting that it was never recreated... (expected it to be yes) - but it's not there
[18:51] <m4dh4tt4> a friend of mine says privacy is dead in default buntu /w unity, how much truth is there to this? how much data is collected? what can be disabled?
[18:51] <ioria> fermulator,  yeah, maybe some root owned files
[18:51] <Ben64> m4dh4tt4: none
[18:51] <m4dh4tt4> wtf u answered that in half a milisecond, almost an autoreply lol
[18:51] <xangua> m4dh4tt4: is your friend RMS?
[18:51] <compdoc> I trust ubuntu and even send in the crash reports
[18:51] <Ben64> m4dh4tt4: because we get this all the time
[18:51] <xangua> !noads
[18:51] <ioria> fermulator, so X session not working .... for that user
[18:52] <fermulator> Ben64 good idea; ... seems like a few.  (.rpmdb/*, minicom.log, .rnd,)
[18:52] <xangua> Mmm what was the factoid?
[18:52] <Ben64> !lens
[18:52] <Ben64> aw
[18:52] <Ben64> !adlens
[18:52] <m4dh4tt4> okay well nothings free though how does canonical make money
[18:52] <Ben64> there we go
[18:52] <xangua> !adlens
[18:52] <m4dh4tt4> ya i followed that tho
[18:52] <m4dh4tt4> ty
[18:52] <Ben64> then you're done
[18:53] <tgm4883> m4dh4tt4: not really a support question. Maybe you're looking for #ubuntu-discuss
[18:53] <m4dh4tt4> so nobody knows how they make money?
[18:53] <fermulator> is .rpmdb supposed to be user-owned or root owned? (RPM Database Tool... not even sure what this is used for on a Debian/ubuntu system)
[18:53] <tgm4883> m4dh4tt4: lots of people do
[18:53] <Ben64> it's just not on topic here
[18:53] <tgm4883> m4dh4tt4: it's just off topic
[18:53] <tgm4883> !discuss | m4dh4tt4
[18:53] <m4dh4tt4> i see
[18:53] <xangua> m4dh4tt4: same way redhat
[18:53] <m4dh4tt4> its like voldemort
[18:53] <Ben64> no
[18:54] <m4dh4tt4> my apologies, i shalst not mention that which should not be named again
[18:54] <tgm4883> m4dh4tt4: no, it's more like don't clog the support channel with non-support questions
[18:54] <Ben64> support channel / discussion channel
[18:54] <Ben64> not complicated
[18:54] <m4dh4tt4> tbh i come here to ask Q's and end up answering more stuff than i gain, i disagree that i'm a drain on the channel imo
[18:55] <m4dh4tt4> but i digress
[18:55] <tgm4883> m4dh4tt4: channel rules bro
[18:55] <m4dh4tt4> np
[18:56] <tgm4883> m4dh4tt4: it's almost like you don't want to actually discuss it and that your mind is already made up...
[18:58] <xangua> That's what discuss and off topic channels are for (?)
[18:59] <tgm4883> xangua: dissussion and off topic channels are for people that actually want to discuss stuff
[19:01] <phantom10111> Does anyone know how can I disable systemd-resolved so that it doesn't start automatically? I have already masked it with systemctl mask but it still starts at boot
[19:02] <YankDownUnder> phantom10111, "sudo systemctl disable resolved" ?
[19:03] <BluesKaj> phantom10111, why disable it
[19:03] <YankDownUnder> phantom10111, Or you can edit the /etc/systemd/resolved.conf and comment out what you wish to not have...restart the service...?
[19:04] <m4dh4tt4> i disabled mine but cant remember how, why would we want the results cached? my fw does that work
[19:04] <YankDownUnder> BluesKaj, Mine works quite fine - with everything in the /etc/systemd/resolved.conf commented out nicely - and all my IP networking is static...happy days!
[19:05] <phantom10111> BluesKaj: I want to use dnscrypt-proxy instead
[19:05] <BluesKaj> YankDownUnder, well if you like google dns as default it's not a problem
[19:05] <phantom10111> YankDownUnder: Isn't systemctl disable weaker than mask?
[19:08] <m4dh4tt4> dnscrypt looks pretty legit, i shallst integrate le feature
[19:10] <BluesKaj> one check one's dns default setting with, systemd-resolve --status in the console
[19:15] <Li> On unbuntu 16.04 i've sudo dpkg -i virtualbox-5.1_5.1.14-112924~Ubuntu~xenial_amd64.deb
[19:15] <Li> I see icon in the launcher but when I click it doesn't start up
[19:15] <Li> Is there any workaround for this issue?
[19:16] <YankDownUnder> Li, reboot and try again?
[19:17] <akik> Li: if you install the deb from virtualbox.org, you should add your user into the vboxusers group
[19:17] <phantom10111> BluesKaj, the problem is that while systemd-resolved is running, for every dns query I get 2 requests in parallel - one with dnscrypt as expected and one normal unencrypted request. I would like to just use dnscrypt and stopping systemd-resolved seems to do the trick. I would just like it to not autostart
[19:18] <oerheks_> Li, current is virtualbox-5.1_5.1.22-115126~Ubuntu~xenial_amd64.deb
[19:18] <oerheks_> https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[19:19] <BluesKaj> phantom10111, I know nothing about dnscrypt...maybe others can help here ?
[19:20] <sierradump> trying to run ubuntu from micro usb 3.0 flash.  Installs and boots fine from flashdisk #1,  I then make second flashdisk #2 = also boots fine but, I put flashdisk #1 back in and it fails to boot?  I reinstall #1 and it boots fine but now #2 fails to boot?  Can someone explain what is going on?  Does it have to do with EFI bios?  Thanks.
[19:21] <glitsj16> phantom10111: why did you mask systemd-resolved? disabling it wasn't working to stop it from autostarting at boot?
[19:21] <Li> Sorry guys that was a false alarm, vbox requires some missing dependencies on this brand newly installed PC
[19:21] <ioria> firejail
[19:21] <Li> I hope that will solve the problem
[19:22] <phantom10111> glitsj16, I have masked it but it still autostarts
[19:23] <shantaram3013> hello i need some help with disk io usage. iotop reports jbd2 is writing to my disk constantly at 100% and im on ubuntu 16.04.2
[19:23] <glitsj16> phantom10111: have you tried unmasing it and disabling instead?
[19:23] <glitsj16> *unmaking
[19:23] <Li> oerheks_: not everyone enjoys that luxury of infinite unlimited bandwidth download :D
[19:23] <Li> they charge by Mb here
[19:24] <Li> works fine now
[19:24] <phantom10111> glitsj16, I can try it, but I thought disabling it was supposed to be weaker than masking
[19:24] <Li> thanks all
[19:25] <glitsj16> phantom10111: i assume the same thing, but i have a working dnscrypt-proxy service (several in fact) for quite some time and disabling systemd-resolved always did the trick.. on 16.04 here.. give it a try, can't hurt :)
[19:26] <phantom10111> glitsj16, actually I checked now and I have it both disabled and masked. So you're telling me to unmask it but keep disabled? I guess I could try it it's not like anything else has worked
[19:27] <glitsj16> phantom10111: that might be confusing systemd, either mask it or disable it, which i'd recommend
[19:27] <glitsj16> correct
[19:27] <Jordan_U> sierradump: Yes, it's related to UEFI. Short answer for work-around is "sudo grub-install --removable".
[19:28] <glitsj16> phantom10111: are you on 16.04? systemd versions are differently integrated in Ubuntu versions as you probably know
[19:29] <phantom10111> glitsj16, I'm on 17.04
[19:29] <glitsj16> phantom10111: okay, that should have better systemd integration even, or put differently less init stuff
[19:30] <Jordan_U> sierradump: The issue is that while for BIOS any given drive can contain only one MBR, which determines what bootloader will be loaded from that drive, with UEFI there can be many UEFI images in the EFI System Partition.
[19:32] <sierradump> jordan_U:  thanks, would the process to make these continue to boot after additional installs be 1.) install ubuntu to flash disk, 2.) run ‘sudo grub-install —removable’.  then after I install the remaining 5 flashdisks, the previous 4 should still boot?  (I am attempting to make a set of bootable Ubuntu USB 3.0 Flashdisks for a class I want to teach).  Frustrating that after installing then 2nd flashdisk,  I am unable to boot 
[19:32] <sierradump> into the previous.
[19:33] <sierradump> ahh ^ thank you.
[19:33] <Jordan_U> sierradump: Will be away for a few minutes, will continue explanation when back.
[19:33] <sierradump> thanks!
[19:38] <jarlath> TwitchTV stutters a lot on my laptop under Chrome and Firefox. Does anyone else get this and is there an alternative like an app?
[19:40] <jarlath> GPU is Sandybridge Mobile
[19:43] <genii> jarlath: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/08/install-gnome-twitch-desktop-appubuntu-16-04 looks promising.
[19:44] <jarlath> genii: thank you, that looks very promising :)
[19:46] <momomo> in htop, how do you hide a processe's sub threads? it's annoying and takes up alot of space
[19:47] <minimec> jarlath: You can install the 'mpv' media player and use it like this 'mpv https://www.twitch.tv/sentdex'. You might have to tune gpu hardware acceleration... See here... https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/wiki/FAQ#X11Intel
[19:49] <fermulator> falling back to gnome2 compiz works fine (so it's a gnome3 issue for me on this specific profile;)
[20:04] <phantom10111> glitsj16, I tried unmasking the service and disabling it and that didn't work, but then I tried the opposite thing (enable it and mask) and that did work. So thanks a lot for the hint
[20:07] <glitsj16> phantom10111: :) no problem, it's weird, but if it works ..
[20:09] <m4dh4tt4> sierradump have you tried yumi? you can make multi-boot flash disks, super easy, can be run with wine on linux, i know its not the recommended method but i cant live without it
[20:10] <m4dh4tt4> if you do give it a whirl, make sure to fat32format it(top right checkbox)
[20:11] <sierradump> m4dh4tt4: no, I used unetbootin to create my USB Ubuntu Installation media…. During ubuntu  installation, I simply chose the new USB disk as the destination.
[20:12] <sierradump> the new USB disk does boot, but only until I install ubuntu to the 2nd USB disk…
[20:12] <sierradump> then only the 2nd one boots, etc…
[20:12] <m4dh4tt4> whats the end goal? multiple flash drives for all students with 1 os?
[20:12] <m4dh4tt4> or 1 flash drive with multiple versions of buntu?
[20:13] <m4dh4tt4> or 1 comp with 4 diff flash drives with diff versions?
[20:13] <sierradump> What I don’t understand is why the USB installation media always boots, across all my PCs…. But the installed USB ubuntu installations, only boot on the system they were “created/installed” on.
[20:13] <sierradump> Yes, I would like to have 5 USB flash disks with vanilla 16.04 installation.
[20:13] <m4dh4tt4> maybe you have secure-boot enabled?
[20:13] <sierradump> This way students can boot from the USB disks without installing on their PCs.
[20:13] <m4dh4tt4> in bios?
[20:14] <m4dh4tt4> well i know that yumi is my go-to, i have 10 x OS's linnux,boot cd's, all flavs of windows, boots on erry pc
[20:14] <sierradump> *yes, because the PCs are Lenovo Laptops (Carbon X1) and have windows installed… I’m not able to modify bios settings.
[20:15] <m4dh4tt4> do you require persistance though cuz im not sure my recomendation is  suitable
[20:15] <jamieb452> hi there
[20:15] <sierradump> *what I don’t understand….  Unetbootin created a USB flashdisk w/ Ubuntu Installation .iso ->. This boots on every system no problem. reliable.  everytime this works.
[20:15] <m4dh4tt4> im not following if that works then?
[20:15] <sierradump> But the resulting installation to the individual USB 3.0 flashdisks, they only boot on the systems they were created (read installed) on ???
[20:16] <m4dh4tt4> could be some uefi vs non-uefi
[20:17] <m4dh4tt4> would be worth making a uefi verion and a non-uefi so u can confirm that this is the difference between something that boots or not and know which drive u need for which, maybe im way off here but its what i would do if things were acting up
[20:17] <sierradump> i.e. ubuntu-install-usb, lenovo #1, 3.0 flashdisk #1  everything installs and boots great.   but if I take that same, working, 3.0 flashdisk #1 to lenovo #2 -> won’t boot :(
[20:18] <sierradump> but if I ubuntu-install-usb, lenovo #2, 3.0 flashdisk #2 —> everything works.  If I take 3.0 flashdisk #1 back to lenovo #1 it boots fine again too.
[20:18] <m4dh4tt4> and are lenovo 1 and 2 same mobo?
[20:18] <minimec> sierradump: Did you install grub on the MBR of the USB stick? In that case you should be able to choose the boot device with F12, when the Lenovo boot screen appears, right? I have two pure USB linux installations here, one Ubuntu, one Fedora and never have boot problems. Although I have to admit that I disable UEFI on all my devices, and the chromebooks I use don't even have UEFI.
[20:19] <sierradump> minimec:  I think the ubuntu installation automatically installs grub no?
[20:21] <BluesKaj> minimec, legacy mode with bios backflash ?
[20:21] <m4dh4tt4> well if youre on usb 3 , loading up buntu on yumi takes about 2.5 mins, which is 3 x less time than weve been discussing :P
[20:21] <minimec> sierradump: There is one screen during the installation, where you see the grub installation point. I would maybe try to do a manual partition configuration "other configuration" or something during installation. Then I am pretty sure that the grub install point is shown during installation.
[20:21] <minimec> BluesKaj: Sorry, I don't understand what you mean.
[20:21] <Ichimusai> It normally asks where you want it before it ejects the load.
[20:22] <jamieb452> So what is all up to?
[20:22] <hundfred> huhu, need help to upgade an old saucy to trusty. apt-get dist-upgrade fails :( => 404 ... is there any mirror left?
[20:22] <Ichimusai> Just committed a couple of hundred lines of LISP into a project.
[20:22] <BluesKaj> minimec, you mentioned you disabled uefi..wondered what mode you used when installing the OS
[20:23] <Ichimusai> hundfred: I would recommend a reinstall unless you really have compelling reasons not to.
[20:23] <minimec> sierradump: A manual partition configuration is quiet useful as you probably don't want a 'swap' partition to reduce write cicles on the USB drive. YOu can use zram instead.
[20:23] <jamieb452> Is anyone here on linux mint at all?
[20:23] <Ichimusai> hundfred: Never had much luck with the do-distribution-upgrade thing and eventually end up reinstalling anyways when it failes halfway through and leaves the system terrified and confused between two releases.
[20:24] <Ichimusai> jamieb452: In the ubuntu group? Not too many I should think
[20:24] <minimec> BluesKaj: Oh. I think indeed I set 'legacy mode' in the BIOS. That's enough to get rid of all problems.
[20:24] <m4dh4tt4> i keep hearing about dist-upgrade sisasters
[20:24] <m4dh4tt4> whats this you speak of?
[20:25] <oerheks_> jamieb452, mint has its own issues and channel
[20:25] <m4dh4tt4> i run it like 2-3 times a month
[20:25] <m4dh4tt4> omg dude drop mint right meow
[20:25] <m4dh4tt4> i went from mint to ubuntu
[20:25] <jamieb452> yes, if you go into your bios and then make it to where your bios is put into legacy, it can help you to get problems fixed
[20:25] <m4dh4tt4> lif'es graaaaaaaaand
[20:25] <BluesKaj> minimec, yup, I wiped the drive of all windows stuff/partitions gpt and setup a dos table etc ...no more mucking about uefi
[20:25] <m4dh4tt4> mint was soooooo many riddiculous wtf issues
[20:26] <m4dh4tt4> half the packages and such just straight up walk you off a plank into a world of hurt and confusing conflicts i have yet to understand
[20:26] <jamieb452> Oh, well I will eventually go to ubuntu soon, this install of mint is quite old and the drive needs a reinstall with a later version of linux
[20:26] <m4dh4tt4> went to buntu expecting same battles, lkike 95% of my issues on mint setup were gone
[20:26] <Ichimusai> m4dh4tt4: Good for you. I have never ben able to make it work. About halfway through something weir bails and then the system is left in a weird state and I have to roll back to pre-upgrade snapshot.
[20:26] <m4dh4tt4> <3 buntu
[20:27] <jamieb452> so what issues was there?
[20:27] <sierradump> m4dh4tt4: haha, yumi sounds great but I want to understand whats happening with my attempts to install.   I will try out yumi later though!
[20:27] <oerheks_> !mint
[20:27] <sierradump> minimec:  yes, I can choose other at that screen.  What exactly am I looking for at the partition screen?
[20:27] <jamieb452> ok, will do, i am moving to ubuntu 16 now, see you soon folks
[20:28] <dreamcat4> why wouldnt you use rufus to create your usb installer with
[20:28] <Bashing-om> !eol | hundfred
[20:29] <m4dh4tt4> display managers + window manager coflicts, u grab something from apt or gui repo and they just load overtop of eachother.. It took me 4 hrs of research to pair my bluetooth keyboard. I had to write a 16 line script to get the system to understand my mouse. I battled dual monitors vs 1 monitor not showing up for 4 months. Id have a working dualmon and reboot or update and not be able to get it back for days etc etc , never again
[20:29] <hundfred> Ichimusai: hm, i just have expierience with debian: dist-upgrade allways worked for me but my expierience is, that ubuntu is worse in that point
[20:29] <sierradump> minimec: zram?  Hmm — I had thought about the no /swap on flash -> but this is flash 3.0 and supposedly 3.0 is faster than any current SSD anyway?  regarding writec cycles — is flash media any different than traditional SSD 2.5” HD?
[20:30] <Ichimusai> hundfred: I have yet to see it not failed on a system where actual work has been performed on :)
[20:31] <minimec> sierradump: depends on the USB stick you use. As example I have a 64GB stick here where I created two partitons, one '/'(ext4) and the other one fat32. Both have about the same size. Like that you can plug the stick in a windows box and you can use the fat32 partition for file transfer.
[20:32] <sierradump> ahh.
[20:32] <tgm4883> Ichimusai: yesterday I just upgraded from 16.04 to 17.04 on my work laptop without any issues
[20:32] <luccky> hello
[20:32] <luccky> does anyone know how to install wps office into lubuntu system, i get error message that libpng1200 isn't installed but in the synaptic package manager i haven't found this version of libpng, there is just 1600
[20:33] <luccky> and some others
[20:33] <sierradump> minimec: understood.  I have the sandisk 3.0 micro 64GB.  I am just doing Ubuntu install.  They are so small - they could be great for portable system that boots in any computer!  if I coudl get them to boot haha
[20:33] <minimec> sierradump: Indeednew USB 3.0 sticks are like small ssd's, so you should not really have problems with write cicles (they say ;) ) If you install the zram-config package, the system will create some virtual swap in RAM and also handles the size.
[20:33] <m4dh4tt4> ya ill admit im a noob when it comes to understanding boot partitions and usb booting issues, which is why my stupid self uses yumi, only so much time in a day i'd rather be off coding something or concentrating on infosec, we shouldnt have to smash our heads against a wall to get something booting
[20:34] <sierradump> Well… Life is great with these things if I install and then ONLY use it on the system I installed it on (since I can’t get teh damn thing to boot on the other systems).
[20:34] <sierradump> I’m thinking the answe may be in one of these guides here — I just don’t know enough about this stuff to figure it out… I am a geologist, not a ocmputer scientist!
[20:35] <m4dh4tt4> sierradump well if what youre doing isnt working, whats your plan, geologist?> YUMI bro lol its for the unsavvy
[20:35] <sierradump> https://medium.com/@mmiglier/ubuntu-installation-on-usb-stick-with-pure-efi-boot-mac-compatible-469ad33645c9
[20:35] <m4dh4tt4> or maam,
[20:35] <m4dh4tt4> lol
[20:35] <sierradump> lol
[20:35] <minimec> sierradump: I have one of theese too in fact with a fedora installation on it. I started with fedora21 and am now on fedora25 on this stick. Works quiet well, but I think the 'sandisk micro' don't have a ssd controller on it. So specially on that stick, zram would be useful I guess.
[20:35] <sierradump> m4dh4tt4 - ill check it out now I guess. haha
[20:36] <m4dh4tt4> Good luck :) hopefully none needed
[20:36] <sierradump> I am using SanDisk Ultra Fit Micro USB 3.0 64GB
[20:36] <minimec> sierradump: the 'SanDisk Extreme USB 3.0' sticks have ssd controllers, but they are much bigger in size.
[20:36] <luccky> please advice me on my issue, thank you
[20:36] <sierradump> didn’t know some usb had SSD controllers!  that is @#$#@ awesome!
[20:37]  * m4dh4tt4 thinks the regs in this chan are growing tiresome of his yumi talk
[20:37] <sierradump> Size does matter lol
[20:37] <m4dh4tt4> what in the world is a usb ssd controller? (up down up down left start select)
[20:38] <m4dh4tt4> but like clearly the current usb boot recommends aren't as smooth as they could be. ive been here 2 days and its practically a topic 10% of the time
[20:38] <sierradump> Yeah, I mean I just wish I understood this better….  I know, generically, that what is happening is that some entry is being installed in my bios during Ubuntu install…. I see it at reboot, bios menu has option for ‘ubuntu’.   But what I want to do is install ubuntu on this removeable media, that is compatible on ANY computer…
[20:39] <m4dh4tt4> unplug the hard drive for install
[20:39] <sierradump> m4dh4tt4: I suspect the SSD controller is like a chipset or similar on the USB removable disk, that actually more closely emulates the performance you would have on a traditional 2.5” SSD  HD vs. traditional flash media.
[20:40] <minimec> m4dh4tt4: Some info on USB stick with ssd controllers... http://www.anandtech.com/show/8755/sandisk-extreme-pro-usb-30-flash-drive-capsule-review
[20:40] <sierradump> m4dh4tt4: unplug hardrive — wil that actually solve my issue?
[20:40] <m4dh4tt4> oh laptop, geologist... well some are easy lol , lenovo might have a lil door on bottom with a pic of a disck , 4 screws or 2, pop door slide hdd flat where towards the gap, comes right out, that way you know your not loading boot from drive and rely only on usb
[20:41] <sierradump> yeahh — I think bios lives on mobo?
[20:41] <m4dh4tt4> do not pull up on the hard drive until youve slid it out of the port
[20:41] <eletious> sierradump - typically, you will need to find a boot menu on whatever device you're using and boot it that way.  If I may ask, are there any specific factors that make using ubuntu a necessity?
[20:41] <sierradump> this geologist thinks computer needs mobo haha
[20:41] <m4dh4tt4> bios does but i can guaruntee youre not loading buntu onto the bios
[20:42] <m4dh4tt4> bios is Basic Input Output system. typically 2mb to 32 mb or whatever the new uefi ones go to, it doesnt have partitions afaik
[20:42] <m4dh4tt4> and is only written to with firmware updates or when the NSA pwns your life
[20:42] <sierradump> eletious: no, I only wanted to install ubuntu as I have instructions for an open source GIS software specifically writen for ubuntu.
[20:42] <eletious> ohhhhh
[20:43] <myxenovia> hi, can someone help me? i installed ubuntu 16.04 lts a couple of months ago and used it for 1 week. but when im using it now i cant connect to internet. it always says disconnected. you are now offline
[20:43] <sierradump> m4dh4tt4:  I thought UEFI was like a small flash w/ a partition for your boot points and stuff?
[20:43] <Menzador> myxenovia: Were you connected before
[20:43] <Menzador> ?
[20:43] <m4dh4tt4> thats fine but if u have a hard drive in the box, theres a chance youre writing to it, hence it not booting on comp 2, because hard drive in comp 1 is absent in comp 2 100% of the time :P
[20:44] <myxenovia> Menzador yes
[20:44] <sierradump> myxenovia:  ctrl-alt-T
[20:44] <m4dh4tt4> myexnovia service network-manager restart
[20:44] <sierradump> ifconfig
[20:44] <sierradump> post results?
[20:44] <myxenovia> sierradump whats that key gonna do?
[20:44] <m4dh4tt4> ifconfig, then get network card name, prolly eth0, could dhclient eth0 and ifconfig it again,
[20:44] <Menzador> Not ifconfig, use [ ip link ] instead
[20:45] <myxenovia> i have to restart to boot my ubuntu.
[20:45] <myxenovia> ervice network-manager restart a terminal command?
[20:45] <m4dh4tt4> yes
[20:45] <myxenovia> okay i will try it. ill comeback here
[20:45] <m4dh4tt4> if ure completely noob, best chances are,"sudo network-manager restart"
[20:45] <m4dh4tt4> and
[20:45] <m4dh4tt4> dhclient eth0
[20:45] <minimec> myxenovia: Do you connect with Wifi? Are the wifi networks 'visible', when you try to connect? Also could you verify that 'time' and 'date' are correct, before you try to connect to a network?
[20:46] <m4dh4tt4> if not come back for more cuz youll need to follow the other stuff guys are saying
[20:46] <m4dh4tt4> also nslookup google.ca and ping 8.8.8.8, write results down, come back
[20:46]  * m4dh4tt4 thinks he just revealed his country location
[20:46] <m4dh4tt4> -_-
[20:46] <myxenovia> minimec yes im connecting to wifi, wifi networks are hidden i just connect to hidden network.
[20:47] <m4dh4tt4> well try gui, top right, click wifi icon, connect to hidden network, put in net name, encryption type and passcode
[20:47] <myxenovia> im sure reinstalling ubuntu will work but i cant do it everytime this happens lol
[20:48] <myxenovia> m4dh4tt4 yea thats how im connecting
[20:48] <Slart> m4dh4tt4: you realise that your whois-information already reveals where you're connecting from? =)
[20:48] <myxenovia> im going to do it now. restart part 1
[20:49] <minimec> myxenovia: Oh... That is in fact not such a good idea, specially on a laptop, because the laptop will always try to search for that hidden network, even when you are in a complete different place with other networks available. See here... https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/28653/debunking-myths-is-hiding-your-wireless-ssid-really-more-secure/
[20:49] <eletious> Hey guys, just looking to understand something better - i've installed openbox and have been customizing for the past day or so.  I accidentally opened Nautilus and it set my wallpaper to my Unity wallpaper, and it seems (though I may be mistaken) that feh --bg-fill doesn't change it
[20:49] <eletious> is there a weird layering system for this?
[20:51] <minimec> myxenovia: In your case, I would first try to connect to a 'normal' visible network, if you can do that. Just to check that the ubuntu system is working correctly. Then, if you really want to hide the 'ssid', continue with this step.
[20:54] <sierradump> dangit. batteries in my mouse just died.  thumbs down for wireless mouse. brb gotta go to store.
[20:58] <myxenovia> im back
[20:59] <myxenovia> service network-manager restart, then i tried to connect  its no good.
[20:59] <myxenovia> nslookup couldnt get address for 'ping': failure
[20:59] <myxenovia> i will list down ifconfig result sec
[21:01] <myxenovia> this is the result of if config
[21:01] <sierradump> pastebin
[21:01] <myxenovia> i used puu.sh sec
[21:01] <myxenovia> https://puu.sh/wgqtj/b46e3b60c4.png
[21:01] <sierradump> k
[21:02] <myxenovia> dhclient eth0 result is could not found device eth0
[21:02] <minimec> myxenovia: I don't know if you got my last two messages, but first 'hiding ssid' is not such a good idea, and 2nd. I would try to make the network 'visible' on the router and check for a working connection. Like that you know that ubuntu is working correctly.
[21:03] <myxenovia> minimec yes i  think i answered you. i hide my ssid so my neighbour thinks i dont have wifi anymore
[21:03] <sierradump> also, I think your pic is like cut off? I can’t see your interface names at all?
[21:03] <myxenovia> and i didnt know that making it hidden is what makes my ubuntu messed up
[21:04] <myxenovia> sierradump i think the photo is messed up. i will go back again sorry.
[21:07] <CTxCB> Okay, so... I want to install Ubuntu to a USB Stick because I don't have a working hard drive.
[21:08] <CTxCB> I've been able to split my 64GB into two partitions, one 3GB for the LiveCD and the rest to install to.
[21:08] <minimec> myxenovia: Ok. I don't want to question your decision any longer... ;)
[21:08] <CTxCB> I was able to install too, but the problem I now have is that when it boots up after the restart, it defaults to the main partition, which is the LiveCD.
[21:10] <CTxCB> I tried removing the LiveCD partition in a Partition Manager in Windows, and when trying to boot, it didn't fail, instead it just stayed at a flashing cursor whilst reading.
[21:10] <CTxCB> Are there any possible solutions? I don't mind trying this again and changing steps.
[21:10] <minimec> myxenovia: MAybe try to set the ssid manually with iwconfig. I don't know if that helps, but it's worth a try. First check your device name with 'iwconfig'. In my case 'enp4s0'. Then set the essid with the following command: "iwconfig enp4s0 essid YOUR_SSID".
[21:12] <myxenovia> this is the result now
[21:12] <myxenovia> https://puu.sh/wgr3L/28df9dc3f2.png
[21:13] <minimec> myxenovia: You could even try "iwconfig enp4s0 essid YOUR_SSID key YOUR_PASSWORD". Then maybe run 'dhclient' to make sure you get an ip from the router
[21:14] <myxenovia> ill do it next. ill wait for the reply of the one who look for my ifconfig result
[21:14] <myxenovia> thanks
[21:19] <Jordan_U> CTxCB: Do you have a GNU/Linux system that you can repair your USB installation from?
[21:19] <CTxCB> Jordan_U: No, I don't.
[21:19] <minimec> myxenovia: well... there is not much to say, looking at that picture with the ifconfig result. You have two network devices (lan/wlan) and the wifi device 'enp2s0' doesn't have an ip address -> not connected. The rest of the 'enp2s0' output seems to be 'standard configuration'.
[21:19] <Bashing-om> CTxCB: likely grub ( boot loader) did not install as you wanted it to . See about re-installing grub ? From the liveDVD pastebin - with the USB device plugged in - ' sudo fdisk -lu ' and we make sure of the target name .
[21:22] <Jordan_U> CTxCB: Did you use a Windows machine to make the LiveUSB initially then?
[21:22] <minimec> myxenovia: Sorry... I am wrong.... your 'enp2s0' device is the 'lan' ethernet device... The other one 'wlp3s0' is the wlan device...
[21:23] <CTxCB> Jordan_U: Yes, I used Rufus on my Mum's Windows 7 laptop.
[21:28] <Jordan_U> CTxCB: Is the machine you're installing to UEFI or BIOS based?
[21:28] <CTxCB> UEFI.
[21:29] <Jordan_U> CTxCB: Did you use manual or automatic partitioning?
[21:30] <CTxCB> Rufus created the original partition, I resized that using a Partition Manager and created a second partition, which I installed to.
[21:30] <Jordan_U> CTxCB: In the Ubuntu installer, did you choose manual partitioning?
[21:32] <CTxCB> Um... I selected the partition, and set it to ext4, and set the boot thing, whatever, to /
[21:36] <CTxCB> Jordan_U: I think I have a secondary USB stick. Does Ubuntu need the Live CD once it restarts?
[21:37] <Jordan_U> CTxCB: So it sounds like you did use the manual partitioning option of the Ubuntu installer. Did you specify a partition to be used for /boot/efi/ ?
[21:38] <CTxCB> Jordan_U: Yes, sha2, which was the empty partition.
[21:40] <jamieb452> hi
[21:44] <Jordan_U> CTxCB: If you can, please use your second USB stick to boot the machine you're trying to install to then plug the USB stick with the failed install in and run boot info script: https://github.com/arvidjaar/bootinfoscript and pastebin the RESULTS.txt that it produces. Please also pastebin the output of "sudo efibootmgr -v".
[21:48] <sierradump> Jordan_U:  Do you know much about USB installs and EFI?
[21:49] <sierradump> Jordan_U:  similar to CTxCB, I was attempting to install Ubuntu 16.04 to a USB 3.0 Flashdisk Media.  (sandisk 64GB).
[21:51] <sierradump> I am able to complete installation to the sandisk, but the sandisk will only boot on the computer it was created on…. Not any other similar model PC (I have 5 Lenovo Carbon X1 Laptops).  i.e.  Laptop #1 installs Ubuntu to USB Flash#1.  Flash #1 will boot on Lenovo1, but not on Lenovo2.  Flashdisk2 is installed from Lenovo2, Flashdisk2 will boot on Lenovo2, but not on Lenovo3...
[21:58] <Jordan_U> sierradump: That is normal for UEFI. A default installation of Ubuntu depends on the machine having a UEFI boot entry pointing to Ubuntu's UEFI image in EFI/Ubuntu. But, you there is also a path that UEFI firmware will check for an image if there is no UEFI boot entry for a disk, EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI . To configure grub (or actually, shim for secure boot) to be installed to that location boot from the
[21:58] <Jordan_U> installed system and run "sudo grub-install --removable".
[22:01] <jamieb452> hi all
[22:05] <jamieb452> anyone here having any issues with ubuntu 16?
[22:05] <ThePortWhisperer> hi
[22:05] <jamieb452> hi
[22:05] <ThePortWhisperer> if i want to get ubuntu 7.10 vmware, where can i find this
[22:06] <jamieb452> You mean you want to install ubuntu on a vm?
[22:06] <ThePortWhisperer> no, i'd like vmware image of 7.1
[22:06] <ThePortWhisperer> i found a vbox image..just trying to avoid converting
[22:06] <jamieb452> ok, let me just check
[22:09] <ThePortWhisperer> or is there a way for me to determine gcc version that comes with ubuntu 7.10
[22:09] <c0mical> did you try gcc --help?
[22:09] <sierradump> Jordan_U:  Thanks!  I did in fact try that.  I’ll try to shorthand the procedure here:  Lenovo1, install Ubuntu to SanDisk1.  Lenovo1, Boot SanDisk1 and run ‘sudo grub-install —removable’.  Reboot lenovo1 and choose F12/USB Disk.  Black screen and drops me back to F12 menu :/
[22:09] <c0mical> or man gcc
[22:10] <Jordan_U> !info gcc | ThePortWhisperer
[22:11] <ThePortWhisperer> i don't have the vmware image so i cant run that. i was trying to find some images of 7.1
[22:11] <ThePortWhisperer> non vbox
[22:11] <ThePortWhisperer> so Jordan_U it looks like it doesn't come default with ubuntu
[22:12] <Jordan_U> ThePortWhisperer: What doesn't come by default in Ubuntu? What is your end goal?
[22:13] <ThePortWhisperer> Jordan_U, i didnt understand the bot msg, it was sort of cryptic
[22:13] <ThePortWhisperer> my end goal is to develop something that runs against ubuntu 7.10
[22:13] <ThePortWhisperer> currently the error is "FATAL: Kernel too old"
[22:14] <sierradump> Jordan_U:  But thank you for your EFI synopsis as  what you are saying seems to be correct about the EFI boot pointsâ€¦ but a new laptop doesnâ€™t have a preinstalled bootpoint for my usb stick, so I need to somehow move the boot point to the USB stick so it can be available to ANY systemâ€¦ as it appears ubuntu is choosing for me to install that boot point into the current system EFI bios instead of the USB stick I am installing to â
[22:14] <sierradump> And for some reason, running that  grub install —removable trick afterwards doesn’t work for me?
[22:16] <Jordan_U> ThePortWhisperer: What command gives you that error message?
[22:16] <ThePortWhisperer> Jordan_U, running the executable
[22:17] <Jordan_U> ThePortWhisperer: Is the executable statically or dynamically linked?
[22:17] <ThePortWhisperer> static
[22:17] <Jordan_U> ThePortWhisperer: Try building it in an Ubuntu chroot, or ideally package it properly as a dynamically linked executable in a .deb package that depends on its dependancies.
[22:18] <anddam> is there a simple ftp server in repo, I need to cd into a dir and start serving it with anonymous access
[22:18] <anddam> s/,/?/
[22:19] <tomreyn> ThePortWhisperer: have you been told that ubuntu 7.10 must be unsupported for roughly 9 years now?
[22:20] <ThePortWhisperer> tomreyn, yes but it's sadly not relevant to my aims
[22:20] <tomreyn> or maybe you mean ubuntu 17.04 or ubuntu 10.10 ?
[22:20] <tomreyn> or maybe you mean ubuntu 17.04 or ubuntu 17.10 ?
[22:20] <YankDownUnder> andatche, "apt search vsftp"
[22:20] <jamieb452> you can install apache server
[22:20] <tomreyn> ThePortWhisperer: what are your aims, if you don't mind diisclosing them (or an abstraction thereof)?
[22:21] <ThePortWhisperer> i'm developing for an old box that's running 7.10
[22:21] <jamieb452> why is that/
[22:21] <anddam> YankDownUnder: I figure that's for me, vsftp required a config file IIRC
[22:21] <tomreyn> ThePortWhisperer: there really should be no such system. can you hint on why it exists?
[22:22] <ThePortWhisperer> its for infosec testing purposes
[22:22] <tomreyn> i see
[22:23] <tomreyn> hmm, for this purpose, i would have expected people would use current systems and adapt them to look like old ones instead. but surely that's a lot of work.
[22:23] <ThePortWhisperer> i dont design the systems i just attack them :P
[22:24] <tomreyn> ThePortWhisperer: so you have source packages, you have sources of upstream code still available, i would think, what's the problem?
[22:24] <ThePortWhisperer> this thing with developing for older systems..really a pain in the neck
[22:25] <jamieb452> so your trying to learn how to hack certain systems?
[22:25] <tomreyn> no doubt on that. you should not nortmally go that route. but i understand your use case.
[22:26] <ThePortWhisperer> jamieb452, actually trying to come up with a reliable way to develop for a target system
[22:26] <ThePortWhisperer> currently the method is to get the VM of the system and compile with that
[22:26] <ThePortWhisperer> it's a bit annoying, would like a cleaner method but it's been difficult to get clean answers on a smarter way
[22:26] <tomreyn> ThePortWhisperer: i assume you already came across http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ ?
[22:27] <ThePortWhisperer> i have not, i saw something similar for BSD, though
[22:27] <tomreyn> getting the old system and building on that seems like the right way to build software for it.
[22:27] <ThePortWhisperer> do you know if those tars have ISO's in them?
[22:27] <tomreyn> glibs is not downwards compatible.
[22:28] <ThePortWhisperer> i originally came here looking for vmware images
[22:28] <ThePortWhisperer> tomreyn, yes that's what someone told me. to find the exact distro or one before it.
[22:28] <tomreyn> hmm vmware images seems unlikely
[22:28] <ThePortWhisperer> they also told me to say release, not distro :P
[22:28] <ThePortWhisperer> er, that wasn't the correction, haven't eaten proper breakfast today, anyways
[22:28] <jamieb452> http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/7.10/
[22:29] <tomreyn> there's release, there is distro, differnet things. ok, have some food then. ;)
[22:29] <ThePortWhisperer> tomreyn, yes, i found a vbox version. I was trying to help a friend of mine looking for a VMware version.
[22:29] <ThePortWhisperer> he was already giving up on the target and VBox wouldn't install on his host  so I figured i'd help out by finding a VMWare version of U7.10
[22:30] <tomreyn> ThePortWhisperer: you will have trouble finding an authoritative source for vmware or any HDD images. and for security purposes, this surely is a requirement.
[22:30] <jamieb452> try http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/7.10/
[22:30] <jamieb452> that is ubuntu 7.10
[22:30] <tomreyn> so use the iso to install it. you can pressed, a process amongst debian based distributions which allows for automating installations.
[22:31] <ThePortWhisperer> tomreyn, jamieb452 gr8..thanks folks :D
[22:31] <jamieb452> no problem.
[22:33] <tomreyn> * preseed
[22:33] <tomreyn> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/example-preseed.txt
[22:34] <tomreyn> https://askubuntu.com/questions/806820/how-do-i-create-a-completely-unattended-install-of-ubuntu-desktop-16-04-1-lts
[22:36] <ross`> um, I am so completely confused. I was able to do mkdir .ssh then I did a chmod 600 .ssh and now I cannot ls the directory but ls -al shows: drw------- 0 ross ross  512 Jun 10 15:29 .ssh
[22:36] <ross`> what??!?!
[22:36] <ross`> I can ls it with sudo
[22:36] <ross`> but it's owned by my user, so wtf
[22:36] <ThePortWhisperer> tomreyn, vnice, thanks
[22:37] <ross`> ssh also is having the error: debug1: Could not open authorized keys '/home/ross/.ssh/authorized_keys': Permission denied
[22:37] <Jordan_U> ross`: "reading" the contents of a directory requires "execute" permissions.
[22:37] <tomreyn> ThePortWhisperer: welcome, have 'fun'. in fact, i think it'll be a lot harder for some other linux distros if you need to do the same there.
[22:37] <myxenovia> minimec hi
[22:38] <ross`> Jordan_U: ahhhh, alright
[22:38] <ross`> working now, thanks
[22:38] <Jordan_U> ross`: You're welcome.
[22:41] <Jordan_U> ross`: Actually, to be completely correct you'll be able to list the contents of the directory without execute permissions, but you won't be able to do any useful operations with those files, including stat()ing them to get more information about them.
[22:42] <hggdh> ross`: and, anyways, the default permissions for ~/.ssh are 0700
[22:42] <ross`> hggdh: yeah, that's what I set it to
[22:48] <Jordan_U> ross`: Fun fact, with "ls --color=no some_directory_without_execute_permissions" you'll be able to list the files without error, because ls won't try to get additional information about the files to give them the correct color.