[00:43] <sierradump> Jordan_U:  would this solve my UEFI issues w/ regards to installing Ubuntu to a USB stick?
[00:43] <sierradump> https://askubuntu.com/questions/559007/is-it-still-possible-to-install-ubuntu-to-an-external-harddrive-with-uefi
[00:45] <Dreaman> dual boot or
[00:54] <sierradump> Dreaman:  I am teaching a geology class and want to provide my students bootable USB Sticks that they can each put in their computer and boot from so we are all using the same platform (ubuntu 16.04).  I bought 5x SanDisk Ultra Fit USB 3.0 Flash Disks.   I put USB-Flash#1 in my PC and install Ubuntu.  Reboot to USB-Flash#1 and everything is great.  I then install USB-Flash#2 in my PC.  Reboot to USB-Flash#2 and everything is great.  B
[00:54] <sierradump> — I put USB-Flash#1 back into my PC and it fails to boot?  It will only boot the last USB-Flash disk which I install too :(
[00:55] <sierradump> In other words — I am not trying to install Ubuntu to my internal hardisk at all.  I am trying to install Ubuntu directly to a 64GB USB 3.0 Flash Drive.
[01:17] <sierradump> So does anyone know how ubuntu handles the installation of grub or EFI boot points if choosing USB as destination?
[01:24] <kenrin> sierradump: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[01:28] <sierradump> kenrin:  I found that earlier but lost confidence in the current validity due to. “METHOD 1” referencing Hardy Heron (8.04)…. Seems kind of antiquated?
[01:28] <kenrin> Fixing your bootloader so it is on the usb and not your hdd isn't antiquated
[01:29] <sierradump> I think thats what I am trying to figure out?
[01:30] <sierradump> And appologize if I am not immediately following how to achieve that — but appreciate you pointing me in the right direction.
[01:31] <kenrin> You have to fix the menu so it isn't looking for /dev/sdx like it says
[01:32] <Bashing-om> sierradump: alternately, mkusb ? See: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1958073&page=69 .
[01:33] <sierradump> Just so I understand what is currently happening…. When I do this the way it doesn’t work… I am Install ubuntu directly to USB 3.0 and ubuntu installer is deciding for me to put my bootloader in my computer system EFI instead of putting it on the USB stick (because presumably ubiquity doesn’t know I am installing to a removable media)
[01:33] <kenrin> The bootloader is probably still on your usb,  but it is trying to boot to a non-existent drive
[01:34] <kenrin> usb will get different dev paths each insert
[01:34] <kenrin> Might want to use mkusb like bashing-om said if you feel uncomfortable editing the grub to fix that
[01:36] <sierradump> I’m comfortable modifying grub to fix… I just want to understand how all this works so I know what I am doing and not just following a guide haha.   I really appreciate the help in here….
[01:37] <kenrin> Well the guide tells exactly what to do.  Even if it is a bit old.
[01:38] <Bashing-om> sierradump: Then for you : http://blog.cyphermox.net/2017/05/an-overview-of-uefi-secure-boot-on.html ( Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre )
[01:38] <sierradump> kenrin: thank you!  Now I am trying to decide which “method” in the guide is the best?
[01:38] <sierradump> Bashing-om: thank you!
[01:39] <Bashing-om> sierradump: Help is what we do .. some more than others .. UEFI is out of my depth :)
[01:40] <sierradump> that’s a littlem ore in depth than I was looking for too. haha.  I’m looking for teh 10,000ft “generalistic” here is what is happening… Not necessarily why or the intricacies.
[01:40] <kenrin> I prefer the syslinux method so you can have multiple OS's on one usb,  but probably not the best for your use case
[01:41] <sierradump> I miss the old days of just like burn .iso to USB and everything works haha.
[01:41] <kenrin> You could do that if you didn't want persistence.  It would just be a livecd
[01:41] <kenrin> have them save all their work to a ftp or something,  heh
[01:42] <sierradump> ironically, burn .iso to USB does actually boot on every system I have… I am trying to get that desired outcome after INSTALLING to the usb. haha.    But with everyones help here, I understand what I have to do is move the bootloader and pointer to the USB.  Now I just need to figure out the best “method” for that.
[01:43] <sierradump> I did see a syslinux option mentioned/referenced earlier… It was a tool for creating multiboot usb.
[02:07] <m4dh4tt4> LOL still going on sierra
[02:08] <m4dh4tt4> did u try yumi?
[02:17] <Dreaman> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24828603/
[02:17] <DocMAX> where can i give a pull request for a package?
[02:22] <amicrawler> can any body help me with this issue
[02:22] <amicrawler> ubuntu 14.04 x64 can not reload paid software from store
[02:26] <DocMAX> please help me: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/1697236
[02:26] <genii> amicrawler: Maybe email canonical at the address at the bottom of this page. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Pay
[03:14] <pokmo> hi
[03:14] <pokmo> i'm trying to download a 20G file on my shared host instance that limits to 80kb/s download per connection. is there a quick way to establish multiple connections?
[03:14] <pokmo> i only have 25G disk space there, so i can't split the file into parts
[03:41] <genii> pokmo: cli or gui?
[03:42] <pokmo> genii, well, either is fine
[03:42] <pokmo> i can just x-forward if gui
[03:46] <genii> pokmo:I use  Xtreme Download Manager , but it's not in the official repos. It's java based. You can download and install it manually at http://xdman.sourceforge.net/#downloads or do it by PPA as shown at http://www.noobslab.com/2016/12/xtreme-download-manager-2016-available.html
[03:46] <pokmo> genii, right. does it support ftp/sftp?
[03:46] <genii> The usual warnings about PPAs eating your children , etc
[03:46] <genii> pokmo: Yes
[03:48] <pokmo> genii, thanks!
[03:48] <pokmo> i'll give it a try
[03:49] <genii> pokmo: The best feature is the segmenting, you can usually get it up to 5 going at a time
[03:52] <Ben64> could use aria2
[03:52] <Ben64> in the repos
[04:29] <GreenDimond> That better?
[04:31] <GreenDimond> Maybe about a month ago I got a new Nvidia 710 or something to replace my ancient graphics card. Once I started using it, my computer kept crashing and Blender still didnt have CUDA so I checked my drivers and I was still using the neuvaeu or whatever its called. So I changed it to the Nvidia drivers and then my screen res got changed to 1024x764 and my 2nd monitor got disconnected, so I went back to the neuvau drivers. A month later I was fed up
[04:31] <GreenDimond> with the crashes so I randomly tried the Nvid driver again and it worked. No idea why. Now this morning I turn on my PC and its back to the low res, and even if I change it to the neuvau driver it still doesnt go back. I made the mistake of doing sudo startx or whatever but that got resolved and I am back to this problem. Help would be nice :)
[04:34] <Bashing-om> GreenDimond: Any hints in the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file as to what is not going on ?
[04:34] <GreenDimond> iirc I checked and I have no Xorg.0.log
[04:35] <GreenDimond> but I can look again
[04:36] <GreenDimond> edit: I DO have it but I dont think it helped... will look again...
[04:36] <GreenDimond> what should I be looking for?
[04:37] <mitchelwb> Anyone here know how to get more information than just "bus error (core dumped)" when trying to start Chrome?
[04:38] <Bashing-om> GreenDimond: errors and failures .
[04:38] <GreenDimond> Bashing-om: I found a (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found) but it has been working for the last week so I dont know if this is useful
[04:39] <Bashing-om> GreenDimond: Pastebin the file and I have a read ; ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit ' .
[04:39] <GreenDimond> put that in the terminal?
[04:40] <GreenDimond> oh cool :o
[04:40] <Bashing-om> GreenDimond: Yeah , if ya use pastebin will have to install the tool .
[04:40] <GreenDimond> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24829689/ Hopefully there's no personal info in there :P
[04:41] <GreenDimond> looks like just my name
[04:41] <GreenDimond> thats good
[04:41] <Bashing-om> GreenDimond: GreenDimond Nope, nothin there of that kind of nature :)
[04:41] <GreenDimond> thought so its not like its my home folder or anything :]
[04:42] <GreenDimond> I should set my client to accept 'GD' for notify :P
[04:42] <Bashing-om> GreenDimond: "quiet splash nomodeset " - nomodeset - defeats kernel mode setting . how are you setting this parameter ?
[04:42] <GreenDimond> that was a failed attempt to fix it
[04:43] <GreenDimond> I can give you a link
[04:44] <GreenDimond> Bashing-om: This is the thing I followed https://askubuntu.com/questions/46145/resolution-stuck-at-1024x768
[04:44] <GreenDimond> though it didnt help
[04:44] <Dreaman> https://paste.ubuntu.com/24829703/ simple
[04:45] <Dreaman> :)
[04:45] <GreenDimond> ?
[04:46] <GreenDimond> Nice.
[04:46] <GreenDimond> I have an 8-core ;)
[04:47] <Bashing-om> GreenDimond: While O look at the askubuntu post . pastebin ' lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga " and we verify the correct driver (375) is installed ,
[04:47] <Dreaman> why use 16.04
[04:48] <mitchelwb> Bashing-om: are you the only one "on duty" here tonite?
[04:48] <Bashing-om> mitchelwb: Well, perhaps I am the only one that arose to the bait ??
[04:49] <GreenDimond> I dont think I did that cmd right
[04:49] <Bashing-om> GreenDimond: We gots to get rid of that grub edit . How are your editing skills ?
[04:49] <mitchelwb> fair enough.  I just didn't want to interrupt.
[04:49] <GreenDimond> wouldn't it be lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga | pastebinit ? Or am I just doing something wrong xD
[04:50] <GreenDimond> "Editing skills" is a vague term
[04:50] <Bashing-om> mitchelwb: Just ask the qustion on your mind .. see what the response is :)
[04:50] <GreenDimond> I can easily get rid of what I added (I got it there, didn't I? ;)
[04:50] <mitchelwb> I did. :)
[04:51] <mitchelwb> having trouble with Chrome.  It won't start and all I can get is a "bus error (core dumped)" message
[04:51] <Bashing-om> GreenDimond: Well, in a manner of speaking you did .. but the udit is the result of running the script .
[04:51] <GreenDimond> Bashing-om here is the lspci result http://paste.ubuntu.com/24829749/
[04:53] <GreenDimond> blarg... I don't remember what GRUB_GFXMODE=$resolution used to be...
[04:54] <GreenDimond> Bashing-om: do you want me to undo the stuff I did in initramfs-tools?
[04:54] <GreenDimond> or just in grub?
[04:57] <Bashing-om> GreenDimond: onfirmed that the 375 version driver is caoorect . now to make all right, I would expect that if you were to edit /etc/default/grub file and remove 'nomodeset" . and then run ' sudo update-grub ' when you reboot all will be fine .
[04:57] <GreenDimond> I got rid of the nomodeset video=uvesafb:mode_option='$resolution',mtrr=3,scroll=ywrap
[04:57] <GreenDimond> is that correct, Bashing-om?
[04:58] <GreenDimond> or should I leave the ideo=uvesafb:mode_option='$resolution',mtrr=3,scroll=ywrap even though that wasnt there before
[04:58] <GreenDimond> *video
[05:06] <Bashing-om> GreenDimond: Pastenin the file .. let me see what we are working with. please .
[05:06] <Bashing-om> pastebin*
[05:07] <GreenDimond> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24829819/ <--- with no edits
[05:07] <Bashing-om> GreenDimond: Look'n .
[05:07] <GreenDimond> Bashing-om: ^
[05:07] <GreenDimond> lol I was late
[05:07] <GreenDimond> There is a miniature fly on my monitor o-O
[05:09] <Dreaman> 8 cirse but low monitor or
[05:09] <Dreaman> just install 17.04
[05:09] <Dreaman> upgreat
[05:10] <GreenDimond> I let my PC tell me when it wants to upgrade
[05:10] <GreenDimond> I dont like to break things
[05:11] <GreenDimond> (Not saying things do, I just don't want to take the risk)
[05:11] <Dreaman> ok
[05:11] <mitchelwb> I seem to break things without trying :S
[05:11] <GreenDimond> Unfortunately >~<
[05:11] <Dreaman> my is estreem edition work
[05:12] <Dreaman> extreem
[05:12] <GreenDimond> Bashing-om: I should say that by "no edits" I mean I have not reverted anything yet.
[05:13] <Dreaman> http://imgur.com/a/OcywS  8k   GreenDimond  my i7
[05:13] <Dreaman> :)
[05:14] <Dreaman> 2 cores 2 virtual and .............
[05:14] <GreenDimond> Do the cores matter to see 8k?
[05:14] <Bashing-om> GreenDimond: Make the file so - GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" - and - #GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480 - . dave it and run ' sudo update-grub ' . Then we will look at /etc/initramfs-tools/modules .
[05:14] <ax562> I was having grub issues (i think).  I have a dual boot machine that would not boot ubuntu anymore.  I ran boot-repair from livecd and now my options boot menu does not apear.  It boots straight into ubuntu.  So i thought maybe it just quickly booted to ubuntu.  I went into grub customizer to try to switch order and windows partition does not appear.  The partition is present though.  Any ideas?  Should I just run boot-repair again?
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> Dreaman: keep it ubuntu related plz
[05:15] <ax562> windows partition is detected by gparted but not by grub-customizer.
[05:16] <GreenDimond> Bashing-om: Done.
[05:17] <ax562> any ideas?
[05:17] <Dreaman> https://paste.ubuntu.com/24829864/  lotuspsychje  ok boss
[05:18] <Dreaman> :)
[05:18] <Dreaman> AMATIORS
[05:18] <Bashing-om> GreenDimond: Next check : ' cat /etc/initramfs-tools/modules ' in a pastebin .
[05:19] <GreenDimond> Bashing-om: I realize I am stupid. I never did run that script, I read incorrectly and added those things the guy said to REMOVE. So obviously with them NOT there the res is still messed up. Here is cat result: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24829876/
[05:20] <GreenDimond> So assuming I remove the stuff I added, I should still be at square one :(
[05:21] <GreenDimond> Bashing-om: So should I just remove all the stuff I added?
[05:21] <Bashing-om> GreenDimond: K. so remove " uvesafb mode_option=$resolution mtrr=3 scroll=ywrap " . We get things back to defaults - then we see what we have and where to go from there .
[05:22] <GreenDimond> Bashing-om: sudo update-grub?
[05:22] <GreenDimond> or no
[05:23] <Bashing-om> GreenDimond: Yeah . do - ' sudo update-grub ' // pending is to update the ramfs .
[05:24] <GreenDimond> Bashing-om: Done
[05:24] <ax562>  I was having grub issues (i think).  I have a dual boot machine that would not boot ubuntu anymore.  I ran boot-repair from livecd and now my options boot menu does not apear.  It boots straight into ubuntu.  So i thought maybe it just quickly booted to ubuntu.  I went into grub customizer to try to switch order and windows partition does not appear.  The partition is present though.  Any ideas?  Should I just run boot-repair again?
[05:25] <Bashing-om> GreenDimond: And did you make up and edit /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/splash ?
[05:25] <GreenDimond> Bashing-om: Nope.
[05:25] <GreenDimond> Luckily :)
[05:26] <ax562> sudo update-grub
[05:26] <ax562> that did it
[05:26] <ax562> thanks anyways
[05:27] <Bashing-om> GreenDimond: No biggy . no step for a stepper :) .. ok cleanup in snall steps . 1) run ' sudo apt install dkms ' just to make sure it exists .
[05:28] <GreenDimond> It's there
[05:28] <GreenDimond> Bashing-om: (Done)
[05:29] <Bashing-om> GreenDimond: 2) ' sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ' . if ya get errors -- tell me .
[05:29] <GreenDimond> Bashing-om: Done. No errors. Just new line.
[05:30] <Bashing-om> GreenDimond: Great ! and now 3) ' sudo update-initramfs -u ' .
[05:31] <GreenDimond> Bashing-om: Done.
[05:31] <Bashing-om> GreenDimond: OK. reboot and let's see what we have .
[05:32] <GreenDimond> Okay (brb).
[05:38] <Dreaman> seee black monitor not blue like win:)))))
[05:39] <GreenDimond> Bashin-om: Still not fixed :/
[05:39] <GreenDimond> *Bashing-om
[05:41] <Bashing-om> GreenDimond: Ok. so what is not "fixed" ? we got a depreciated file messing with it ? what results ' ls -al /etc/X11/xorg.conf ' ?
[05:41] <GreenDimond> "Not fixed" = Screen res still not right
[05:41] <GreenDimond> Bashing-om: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1332 Jun 10 21:10 /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:42] <Bashing-om> GreenDimond: There be our culprit . with dkms that file in your use case is not needed . remove it . and how about ' ls -al /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ' ?
[05:44] <GreenDimond> Bashing-om: ls: cannot access '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d': No such file or directory   which file do I remove?
[05:46] <Bashing-om> GreenDimond: K . not havong xorg.conf.d is a good thing on our case . we want to rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf . dkms == dynamic kernel mode setting - the kernel does all the discovery and settings .
[05:47] <GreenDimond> alright removing xorg.conf...
[05:47] <Dreaman> ubuntu not start
[05:47] <GreenDimond> Bashing-om: rm backup too?
[05:48] <Bashing-om> GreenDimond: I would . as it serves no purpose and takes up disk space .
[05:49] <Bashing-om> ( but does not hurt to leave it as it is not parsed )
[05:49] <GreenDimond> Bashing-om: Too late :P
[05:49] <GreenDimond> (Done)
[05:50] <Bashing-om> GreenDimond: Anndd reboot and see what we have now .
[05:50] <GreenDimond> Okay (br)
[05:50] <GreenDimond> *(brb)
[05:53] <GreenDimond> Bashing-om: Res still messed up :(
[05:55] <Bashing-om> GreenDimond: Let's see what X thinks now / pastebin the new ' /var/log/Xorg.0.log ' file .
[05:55] <GreenDimond> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24830041/
[05:56] <Bashing-om> GreenDimond: reading .
[06:01] <Bashing-om> GreenDimond: X ain't happy " (EE) NVIDIA: Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module. " . Try ' sudo apt purge nvidia* ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' .
[06:06] <GreenDimond> Bashing-om: Done.
[06:06] <GreenDimond> Reboot?
[06:07] <Bashing-om> GreenDimond: ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' . see that the 375 version driver installed .
[06:08] <GreenDimond> Bashing-om: Yep. It's there.
[06:08] <Bashing-om> GreenDimond: let's reboot and see what we have now :)
[06:09] <GreenDimond> Okay (brb)
[06:12] <GreenDimond> Bashing-om: :/ Nope.
[06:13] <Bashing-om> GreenDimond: Ya know the drill . see what X thinks . and then go find out why the module does not build :)
[06:13] <GreenDimond> yep
[06:14] <GreenDimond> Bashing-om: You can look while I look ;) http://paste.ubuntu.com/24830128/
[06:16] <GreenDimond> still see the failed init nvid kernal
[06:16] <Bashing-om> GreenDimond: Still "(EE) NVIDIA: Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module." . now comes the work to find out WHY oh why !
[06:17] <GreenDimond> >~<
[06:17] <GreenDimond> I get why people like MAC so much. But I will never use it. But I get why people use it (it seldom breaks).
[06:17] <GreenDimond> *Mac
[06:18] <GreenDimond> Linux is a load of work. But it's worth it ;D
[06:18] <Bashing-om> GreenDimond: We got disk space ? pastebin ' df -h ' as the palce to start . and what release is this with a 4.4 series kernel ?
[06:18] <GreenDimond> Disk space? Plenty.
[06:19] <GreenDimond> Bashing-om: disk space result http://paste.ubuntu.com/24830188/ and release? Xubuntu 16.04 I think...
[06:19] <Bashing-om> GreenDimond: And I must disagree on the work . I have yet to have a problem with a default install .. and I been on 'buntu since 4.06 - hardware allowing !
[06:20] <GreenDimond> I must be unlucky then :/ the amount of headaches I have gone through to fix this thing...
[06:21] <Bashing-om> GreenDimond: :) .. yeah .. OK .. what is this thing we are trying to fix ? .. and pastebin ' dpkg -l | grep linux- ' .
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> GreenDimond: re-ask your issue to the channel with all details, new volunteers might be able to help/look from different view?
[06:21] <GreenDimond> by "thing" I meant this PC whenever stuff goes wrong
[06:22] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Nad resolution. and nvidia driver does not build IRT GreenDimond :)
[06:22] <GreenDimond> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24830200/
[06:22] <Bashing-om> BAD*
[06:23] <Bashing-om> GreenDimond: What I mean is what is the system we are workin with ? Del, Acer ? laptop. PC ?
[06:23] <GreenDimond> PC
[06:23] <GreenDimond> Want my specs?
[06:25] <GreenDimond> Relevant stuff is, Desktop PC with Xubuntu 16.04 and 2 monitors (one failing to connect because of this problem).
[06:26] <Bashing-om> GreenDimond: Yeag . some machines are somewhat specific to Windows :( // now a new question - why are you booting the old -45 kernel when -79 is installed ?
[06:26] <GreenDimond> No idea?
[06:26] <GreenDimond> I don't mess with this kind of stuff?
[06:26] <GreenDimond> How do I make it NOT boot with -45? :P
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> GreenDimond: ubuntu version? graphics card chipset? graphics driver version? when did this start to happen?
[06:27] <Bashing-om> well. We need to adress that .. as the nvidia module builds on specific kernels in use . lemme ponder a bit .
[06:28] <GreenDimond> lotuspsychje: [21:29:56] because I dont know how to properly use a timestamp and I dont really want to paste all that
[06:28] <GreenDimond> :P
[06:28] <GreenDimond> if you dont have that I can paste it again
[06:29] <GreenDimond> Alas, I must go.
[06:30] <GreenDimond> I will be back Monday to try to fix this.
[06:30] <GreenDimond> Bashing-om: Is there a ~tell or something you can use to give me a msg when I join next?
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> GreenDimond: the key to get issues solved is to re-ask once in a while to the channel
[06:32] <GreenDimond> gtg now
[06:33] <GreenDimond> Ty for help thus far!
[07:32] <wewlad> hi
[07:33] <wewlad> xubuntu 16.10, I've noticed that apt-get install something often ends with E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[07:34] <wewlad> but the packets seem to get installed just ~fine
[07:38] <cunsultant> hello i have problem with linux mint ( on their chat i cant get help). i have problem after update kernel ( change to older dont repair) all files and partition is locked by unknown user, i cant edit or create files, root can only create new file but cant edit. chmod is ok
[07:44] <wewlad> define 'chmod is ok'
[07:48] <cunsultant> all permissions is ok, few days ago we look this i set for main files special chmod 777 and still is problem i delete ~lock files and try edit files but still all is locked i cant create new files, send mails, all is locked by unknown user
[07:49] <cunsultant> i cant save files on windows partition
[07:49] <cunsultant> i load older kernel the same problem
[07:50] <Ben64> cunsultant: this channel is for ubuntu support only, you'll need to use the mint support channel
[07:51] <cunsultant> yes but main core is from ubuntu
[07:51] <cunsultant> command line is the same
[07:51] <Ben64> sure but it isn't ubuntu
[07:53] <cunsultant> maybe but there i cant get help and i think maybe someone here know how to repair this problem.
[07:54] <cunsultant> Ben64 only difference is windows manager and repositories
[07:57] <Ben64> cunsultant: yeah, the important stuff
[07:57] <Ben64> you're not going to get mint help here
[07:57] <cunsultant> this is not important stuff
[07:58] <cunsultant> most important is command line
[07:58] <cunsultant> what is the same
[07:58] <cunsultant> this is linux not gui
[07:58] <Ben64> again, this is the ubuntu support channel, for ubuntu only
[07:59] <cunsultant> and when i load my linux is write welkom to ubuntu 16.01 lts then this is ubuntu with another gui like kubuntu srubuntu lubuntu
[07:59] <Ben64> you're wasting your time
[08:00] <cunsultant> you are wasting my time i just need help with locked partition not important a fucking distribution this is in command line or in partitions the same for all existing  linux distributions
[08:01] <Ben64> that sort of language isn't appreciated here either
[08:01] <Ben64> the fact of it is, this channel only supports ubuntu. that's it, the end
[08:02] <cunsultant> oh next thrash people like always
[08:03] <boredguy> Heh
[08:16] <wewlad> hey
[08:16] <wewlad> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24830628/
[08:16] <wewlad> could anyone tell me why am I getting errors when using apt-get?
[08:19] <wewlad> gzip: stdout: No space left on device
[08:20] <wewlad> what
[08:20] <wewlad> stdout has space?
[08:20] <wewlad> > E: mkinitramfs failure cpio 141 gzip 1
[08:27] <Poster> you are out of disk space
[08:28] <Poster> most likely on your root partition
[08:29] <calimero_82> hi guys, i ve a problem with my nvidia gpu, i ve xubuntu 1604, from this morning i ve 640x480 only
[08:30] <Poster> wewlad: try "sudo apt-get autoremove"  That should remove the intermediate/unused kernels you have and allow you to install the latest
[08:31] <calimero_82> i can t change the resolution
[08:34] <cfhowlett> wewlad, should autoremove fail, you can / should clean out kernels manually
[09:05] <\9> wewlad: check your disk space usage with "df -h"
[09:18] <wewlad> \9: Poster: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24830850/
[09:24] <Poster> Ok it looks like /boot is probably full, did you try the "sudo apt-get autoremove" ?
[09:31] <fiter> I am running ubuntu , my system is giving this error "Root has 0 free space"
[09:32] <cfhowlett> fiter, do this in terminal:   df -H | pastebinit
[09:32] <fiter> I have removed data from home directory but again I am getting this error.
[09:33] <cfhowlett> fiter, do this in terminal:   df -H | pastebinit
[09:33] <fiter> ok
[09:41] <fiter> here is the output of df  -H http://paste.ubuntu.com/24830926/
[09:42] <Ben64> as expected, you have no free space in your root partition
[09:42] <cfhowlett> fiter, line 6 indicates a maxed out partition.  sudo apt autoremove might clean out old kernels
[09:44] <fiter> thats does not works.
[09:45] <fiter> Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 5 not upgraded.
[09:46] <cfhowlett> fiter, no worries.  you can do it manually with Remove Old Kernels via DPKG
[09:46] <cfhowlett> http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2016/05/remove-old-kernels-ubuntu-16-04/
[09:53] <wewlad> Poster: now I did, it ended with: W: APT had planned for dpkg to do more than it reported back (132 vs 136).   Affected packages: linux-image-extra-4.8.0-54-generic:amd64
[09:54] <wewlad> boot is 30% now
[09:56] <cfhowlett> welad suggested practice is to keep the 2 most recent kernels and remove all others
[09:58] <wewlad> cfhowlett: I don't know how/when they pile up, afaik I haven't done distro upgrade yet
[09:59] <cfhowlett> auto update settings??
[10:00] <wewlad> what
[10:00] <Haris> hello all
[10:00] <Haris> on 14.04 how do I recover from a lost dpkg or apt-get running session ?
[10:01] <cfhowlett> !aptlock | Haris
[10:02] <wewlad> god damn it, how does a simple 'apt-get install winswitch xpra' may result into a 'Configuring Secure Boot' window?
[10:02] <wewlad> that can neither be confirmed nor closed
[10:06] <wewlad> how to break free? connected from freebsd via ssh to ubuntu, under root did apt-get install 2 packets and it showed me a pseudo graphic window 'configuring secure boot' saying my system has uefi secure boot enabled (afaik it was disabled) and I can't neither hit ok nor break the operation via ctrl+c/ctrl+d
[10:14] <damdai> why does redhat has "company stock"  but  ubuntu  doesn't
[10:14] <cristian_c> ?
[10:15] <wewlad> because redhat is a company, unlike ubuntu
[10:15] <damdai> i can buy NYSE:RHT  right now
[10:15] <cfhowlett> damdai, canonical is the parent company.  it's private.
[10:15] <damdai> canonical is the company that makes ubuntu?
[10:15] <cfhowlett> yes
[10:15] <Ben64> damdai: this does not belong in the ubuntu support channel
[10:16] <damdai> Ben64 why not
[10:16] <Ben64> because it's not ubuntu support
[10:16] <cfhowlett> !ot | damdai take it to the proper channel
[10:17] <damdai> well i just learened that canoncial is the company that makes ubuntu , thanks to these people
[10:17] <damdai> so they just gave me ubuntu support
[10:17] <Ben64> this is for technical support for the operating system ubuntu
[10:17] <cfhowlett> damdai, great.  now take this discussion to #ubks.untu-offtopic please.  than
[10:33] <Nicole> how do I specify current directory in unzip like unzip file.zip directory without typing the current root extraction directory
[10:34] <Ben64> unzip file.zip
[10:44] <CaCO3> Client: HexChat 2.12.4 • OS: Ubuntu "zesty" 17.04 • CPU: AMD A8-6410 APU with AMD Radeon R5 Graphics (1000MHz) • Memory: Physical: 6.6 GiB Total (6.3 GiB Free) Swap: 2.0 GiB Total (2.0 GiB Free) • Storage: 54.7 GB / 972.4 GB (917.8 GB Free) • VGA: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Mullins [Radeon R4/R5 Graphics] @ Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Ardent Technologies Inc • Uptime: 9m 50s
[10:44] <Nicole> are md5 checksums important?
[10:44] <cfhowlett> packages from official ubuntu repos are generally safe.  otherwise - how paranoid are you?
[10:45] <Ben64> Nicole: possibly? hard to tell without context for your question
[10:50] <Nicole> Ben64: like I'm downloading a zip archive for a game
[10:51] <Nicole> Ben64: and the download page says if you want to verify the integrity use the md5sums
[10:51] <Nicole> Ben64: for each compressed file too so what should I be fearing
[10:54] <Ben64> could be a not legit download i guess
[10:55] <Slart> Nicole: it's just a way to see if the file you end up with is the same the developers intended you to download
[10:56] <Slart> Nicole: it could also help with detecting transfer errors of (ususally) big files like isos and such
[10:57] <Slart> Nicole: if someone were to come in here and say "I'm running this ubuntu install cd and it just keeps crashing" I would recommend they check the md5 of the iso they downloaded against the proper values.. just to see if the download failed in some way
[11:19] <Nicole> Slart: if I check the md5 of the zip or iso I should assume the rest of the compressed files inside are also good right
[11:19] <Nicole> Ben64: well if the zip is not legit the md5 on the website doens't make difference right unless I get the md5 from a truthful site
[11:21] <Haris> hello all
[11:21] <Haris> mysql-server 5.6 is not in pkgs on 14.04 ?
[11:22] <Haris> ignore that please
[11:27] <cristian_c> :O
[11:38] <ChunkzZ1> can anyone help me with this error? http://imgur.com/a/3F9sC
[12:07] <generic> do I have to download android-studio seperately ?
[12:08] <boredguy> Yes
[12:09] <generic> ok extract where ?
[12:10] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:11] <generic> guess the launcher will tell ..
[12:11] <boredguy> Ask in #android-dev
[13:21] <mitchelwb> Anybody have any idea why Chrome is suddenly giving me a "bus error (core dumped)" and not starting?  I'm 99.9% sure it had to do with a manual fsck that "fixed" files yesterday, but I can't get it running now.
[13:26] <mitchelwb> What is "signal 7"?
[13:38] <portalgun> A rather embaressing question... I'm trying to bind a python script to a command so I don't have to type the full path out all the time (so I can type 'showhosts' anywhere and it will run ~/Documents/scripts/showhosts.py)... Googling bindings isn't helping. What is this kind of thing called so I can properly research it?
[13:53] <MiguelFuller> how to start ubuntu grub menu or load xubuntu in terminal instead of gui
[13:53] <MiguelFuller> quick help please
[13:54] <MiguelFuller> xubuntu sorry
[13:54] <Ichimusai> MiguelFuller: Not sure what you need help with
[13:54] <Ichimusai> MiguelFuller: Do you wish to boot into console mode rather than graphical mode?
[13:54] <MiguelFuller> I don't want to service stop lightdm I want to load into shell prompt
[13:54] <MiguelFuller> yes
[13:55] <cristian_c> a question for you, guys
[13:55] <Ichimusai> MiguelFuller: # systemctl set-default multiuser.target
[13:55] <Ichimusai> MiguelFuller: # systemctl isolate multiuser.target
[13:55] <cristian_c> I'm searching for a way to use a new resolution for employing in a basic projector
[13:56] <MiguelFuller> Ichimusai, that's crazy
[13:56] <cristian_c> I've followed the sequence using cvt, xrandr newmode and xrandr addmode
[13:56] <cristian_c> but when I use xrandr output with the new resolution, I get: xrandr: configure crtc 0 failed
[13:56] <cristian_c> and if I read Xorg.0.log, I find:  (EE) intel(0): failed to set mode: Invalid argument [22]
[13:57] <cristian_c> How could I debug this failure?
[13:57] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[13:57] <Ichimusai> MiguelFuller: Why is that crazy?
[13:59] <MiguelFuller> Ichimusai, is like invading norther england
[14:00] <mitchelwb> Anyone know what "signal 7" is? When I try to start Chrome, I get a system error dialog that says it "crashed with signal 7"
[14:00] <Ichimusai> MiguelFuller: I'm sorry if that is not what you wanted you have to be more specific so we understand what you are ACTUALLY trying to do.
[14:11] <cristian_c> mitchelwb: have you already started chrome by terminal?
[14:13] <Ichimusai> mitchelwb: Bus address error as I recall it.
[14:19] <mitchelwb> christian_c: yes, When I do that, the terminal returns a "bus error (core dumped)"
[14:21] <mitchelwb> at this point, I'd be happy if I could just completely wipe chrome and reinstall it.  I've done a --reinstall, as well as a full remove and reinstall but it's still doing the same thing.
[14:23] <ioria> mitchelwb, df -H | grep shm
[14:25] <mitchelwb> ioria: what does that do? terminal gave me back a single line:  tmpfs        7.9G   160k   7.9G   1%  /dev/shm
[14:25] <mitchelwb> shm is in red though.
[14:26] <ioria> mitchelwb, it's ok.... can you paste  'df -H '  output ?
[14:27] <mitchelwb> I'm actually on my backup win laptop next to the machine so I can't copy/paste.
[14:28] <mitchelwb> I rebooted the machine yesterday and when I did, it went to a system screen and reported an unexpected inconsistency and wanted me to run a manual fsck on /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root
[14:28] <cristian_c> mitchelwb: usb copy-paste is _a_ way
[14:28] <ioria> mitchelwb, that it's fixed now or what ?
[14:29] <mitchelwb> the fsck "fixed" a bunch of files that all appeared to be related to chrome and I'm pretty sure that's the issue, I just have no idea what went wrong.
[14:30] <mitchelwb> I can switch over and bring up irc in firefox on the machine if I need to as well.  That will let me copy/paste.
[14:30] <mitchelwb> ioria: no, right now, everything on my machine works EXCEPT chrome
[14:31] <ioria> mitchelwb,  try to purge ?
[14:31] <mitchelwb> how do I purge?
[14:31] <cristian_c> apt-get purge package
[14:31] <cristian_c> or apt-get remove --purge package
[14:32] <mitchelwb> ok.  hold please.
[14:33] <ioria> mitchelwb,  sudo apt  purge google-chrome-stable  && sudo apt autoremove
[14:34] <mitchelwb> while it's doing that, when I just use the file explorer and go to the path /dev/mapper the ubuntu--vg-root shows (and other files) show 0 bytes and the Type is "Link to unknown" is that right?
[14:35] <mitchelwb> purge done.  reinstalling now.
[14:35] <mitchelwb> any specific or preferred way I should install it?
[14:35] <ioria> mitchelwb,  ls -l /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root
[14:35] <cristian_c> lvm? encryption?
[14:36] <ioria> mitchelwb,  you can download the .deb, or you can add the repo in sources.list
[14:36] <mitchelwb> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 Jun 11 08:08 /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root -> ../dm-0
[14:36] <ioria> ok
[14:39] <mitchelwb> I think I originally set this machine up using 12.04 and I don't know why I would have done any encryption above or beyond what was a default installation.
[14:40] <mitchelwb> purged and reinstalled.  Same error.
[14:40] <ioria> mitchelwb,  uname -r   and cat /etc/issue
[14:41] <mitchelwb> uname -r gives 4.8.0-54-generic
[14:41] <mitchelwb> cat /etc/issue gives    Ubuntu 16.10 \n\l
[14:42] <ioria> mitchelwb,  ok, yakkety (it's going to end next month) ... what version of  google-chrome  are you using ?
[14:43] <mitchelwb> 59.0.3071.86-1
[14:43] <MWM> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2057342  <-- will this work for a headless install that I access remotely or should I bring the monitor in from the garage and do it the old fashioned way?  TIA :)
[14:44] <mitchelwb> I'll be honest, I was on 16.04 yesterday.  I tried going to 16.10 hoping it might "reset" whatever system condition is causing this.
[14:45] <ioria> mitchelwb, dpkg -l | grep  google-chrome-stable
[14:46] <mitchelwb> ii  google-chrome-stable  59.0.3071.86-1
[14:46] <mitchelwb> amd64    the web browser from Google
[14:47] <ioria> mitchelwb, so, from terminal you got 'core dumped' and running it signal 7  error ?
[14:48] <mitchelwb> yes.  If I go to terminal and type google-chrome it returns the "bus error(core dumped)" error and also pops up the system error window that says "The application Google Chrome has closed unexecpectedly"
[14:49] <mitchelwb> inside that UI window's details it says the problem type is "Crash" (helpful!) and Title is "chrome crashed with signal 7"
[14:49] <ioria> mitchelwb, i'd say ...  something in your ~/.config folder
[14:50] <mitchelwb> there is a google-chrome folder in there... wouldn't that have been wiped with purge though?
[14:51] <ioria> mitchelwb,  purge again,  rm or backup  ~/.config/google-chrome  and ~/.cash/google-crhome  , reboot  and try to install again
[14:51] <mitchelwb> ok.  please hold.
[14:52] <ioria> mitchelwb,   ~/.cache/google-crhome
[14:54] <ioria> mitchelwb,  are you using some not default fonts ?
[14:55] <mitchelwb> as far as I know.... no.  I can't think of when I might have been using a different font as a default...
[14:55] <ioria> ok
[14:58] <mitchelwb> think it's worth doing a reboot between purge and install?
[14:58] <ioria> to be honest, nope
[14:59] <ioria> mitchelwb,  may fix/reset  something thou
[15:00] <mitchelwb> it reboots fast.. I'm gonna do it just because.
[15:00] <mitchelwb> I paid attention when I watched "The IT Crowd"
[15:01] <ioria> lol
[15:02] <mitchelwb> dangit!  it gave me a message about lvm something, but it was there and gone so fast I couldn't read it all.
[15:02] <mitchelwb> but it otherwise booted just fine.
[15:04] <ioria> sy, brb
[15:04] <mitchelwb> hot dog!  wiping out the .config/google-chrome folder seems to have solved it!
[15:05] <ioria> mitchelwb, good job, cheers
[15:05] <MWM> so you did : apt-get remove --purge chrome-stable (or whatever the package name is) right?
[15:06] <MiguelFuller> how to load xubuntu into console? I tried setting CMD linux to true and changed the line spash quiet to text but is not loading into text mode
[15:06] <MWM> and then killed the .config chrome folder + a reinstall and that was the fix?  Just wondering becasue I break stuff alot :)
[15:06] <MiguelFuller> I have low memory is only a 512mb system
[15:07] <Ichimusai> MiguelFuller: Set the runlevel to multi-user
[15:07] <mitchelwb> sudo apt-get remove --purge google-chrome-stable && sudo apt-get autoremove   Then I went to both ~/.config and ~/.cache and renamed the /google-chrome folders to /xgoogle-chrome in each.  Reboot.  Reinstall from .deb
[15:08] <MiguelFuller> Ichimusai, you mean service stop lightdm similar? I don't want to load the gui at all
[15:08] <Ichimusai> MiguelFuller: I mean starting in a runlevel WITH ONLY TEXT MODE as I suggested previously but you did not likel
[15:09] <MiguelFuller> Ichimusai, k I'll look
[15:09] <mitchelwb> My chrome isn't all set up the way I had it before, but it's mostly just lost tabs.  If I need them, I'll remember them.  If I can't remember them, I didn't need them.
[15:09] <mitchelwb> Thanks for the help guys
[15:09] <MWM> Thanks.  I will need that sometime I am sure.  Do you just not like adding PPAs or is there another reason you used a .deb package?
[15:09] <Ichimusai> MiguelFuller: And no I do not mean stop lightdm. I mean start in a mode where the graphical UI is never even considered!
[15:10] <Ichimusai> MiguelFuller: Depending on your version of ubunto that can mean different things. If it is a recent version it's done with systemctl set-default multi-user.target
[15:10] <MiguelFuller> Ichimusai, what if I want to go back to gui
[15:10] <Ichimusai> MiguelFuller: Then you change the target to the gui instead of course.
[15:11] <Ichimusai> MiguelFuller: systemctl set-default graphical.target
[15:11] <Ichimusai> Then you either reboot (safest way) or you run systemctl isolate graphical.target
[15:11] <Ichimusai> Then you are back now.
[15:11] <Ichimusai> If your system is an older version then there are other ways of specifying initial runlevel but give it a go.,
[15:12] <Ichimusai> And no, you do not have to invade northern england. Cheeky bob.
[15:18] <MiguelFuller> Ichimusai, I get no such file or directory
[15:18] <MiguelFuller> Ichimusai, I get can not set default target no such file
[15:19] <Ichimusai> Which version of ubuntu are you running?
[15:20] <donofrio> what do I type to forece start black powersaving screen mode?
[15:20] <donofrio> xset something I forget
[15:21] <Ichimusai> xset dpms force off
[15:22] <donofrio> thats it tnx
[15:24] <hendry> Is docker supported on 16.04 LTS? struggling to get it working
[15:25] <Ichimusai> hendry: Should be, I know digital ocean has 16.04 droplets with docker
[15:27] <MiguelFuller> Ichimusai, it worked
[15:27] <MiguelFuller> it was multi-user not multiuser
[15:31] <mitchelwb> MWM: sorry, didn't see the question about PPA's and I went and made some celebratory eggs for breakfast.  I could add it as a PPA, I just don't do it often so I would have had to look up the syntax. It would have taken longer and I wanted to be quick out of respect for the guys helping me.
[15:40] <dreamcat4> 16.04 software update... 'you stopped the check for updates'
[15:41] <dreamcat4> this message ^^ appears whenever i try to run it
[15:41] <dreamcat4> is there some command line i can run to look for errors / debug this?
[15:43] <oerheks_> dreamcat4, maybe there are updates installed, and you need to reboot ( kernel or ssl update lately)
[15:43] <dreamcat4> ah, this is the actual error ---> https://paste.ubuntu.com/24832920/
[15:44] <dreamcat4> from the middle, where it says 'Traceback...'
[15:57] <knightwise> hey everyone
[16:02] <dreamcat4> oerheks_: rebooting did not have any effect. i'm gonna put this down to the python installation getting muched up, and then causing this dbus lib error
[16:03] <dreamcat4> ... so maybe if there is some way to reinstall the system python
[16:04] <dreamcat4> also apport crashes too (so, python or its libs)
[16:07] <dreamcat4> ah dammnit
[17:03] <royal_screwup21> I'm using my host file (hosts) to block certain websites. I followed the instruction and typed in my ip address and the name of the website at the end of the file. But that didn't work because I was still able to access the website on my browser. What am I doing wrong?
[17:04] <glitsj16> royal_screwup21: maybe your browser is caching DNS requests?
[17:06] <royal_screwup21> glitsj16: nope, unlikely. I tried replacing the website with one that I rarely ever visited, and it still showed up
[17:07] <boredguy> You typed in your ip address?
[17:09] <royal_screwup21> boredguy: yup, <ip> <url>
[17:09] <glitsj16> royal_screwup21: shouldn't you wanna use 0.0.0.0 to block? what instructions did you follow exactly?
[17:10] <royal_screwup21> http://someonewhocares.org/hosts/
[17:20] <glitsj16> royal_screwup21: do you manually update that blocklist via cron or what do you use? I recognize Dan Pollocks blocklist, been using it for a while.. so by using your own ip you mean 127.0.0.1?
[17:21] <royal_screwup21> glitsj no, I'm not going to be updating the blocklist. And yeah, 127.0.0.1
[17:21] <royal_screwup21> glitsj16: *
[17:21] <glitsj16> royal_screwup21: what's the use of a blocklist if you never update it? :)
[17:22] <royal_screwup21> well... there's only one site in particular that I don't want to be using
[17:23] <royal_screwup21> unless I'm mistaken, the standard procedure is simply to write the ip address and the url in hosts, right? It doesn't specify running a cronjob or anything in the background
[17:25] <royal_screwup21> fuck it, I'll just practice some self-control
[17:25] <glitsj16> royal_screwup21: correct, a line like 127.0.0.1 facebook.com would block that one
[17:27] <glitsj16> royal_screwup21: a blocklist changes every few weeks or so, and in that case you will need to do some extra work either yourself via cron or use something ready-made to update blocklists, like https://github.com/gaenserich/hostsblock for example
[17:27] <xtuber> Hi. I want to ask about the Stardict
[17:28] <blkadder> glitsj16, The link he posted is a ready-made blocklist.
[17:28] <akik> royal_screwup21: on ubuntu 16.04 "0.0.0.0 www.example.com" disables access to www.example.com
[17:28] <blkadder> But he'd still need to update it of course.
[17:29] <glitsj16> blkadder: i know, that's why i asked how he updated it
[17:29] <glitsj16> it should work for royal_screwup21 though, and that seems to be his problem
[17:29] <blkadder> glitsj16, Ahh now I see. :-)
[17:30] <glitsj16> :)
[17:31] <glitsj16> royal_screwup21: what happens when you try to ping the blocked address?
[17:31] <blkadder> royal_screwup21 Pastebin the contents of your /etc/hosts file.
[17:36] <jim_> has anyone had experience installing ubuntu to lenovo y90017isk ?
[17:37] <jim_> i cant get killer wifi to succeed or tplink 722n or 823n usb adapters
[17:38] <jim_> i have partitions for 14.4, 16.4 and 17.4, all resist usb wlan operation
[17:39] <royal_screwup21> https://thepasteb.in/p/Q1hBZ4LWXqgt8 glitsj16
[17:40] <royal_screwup21> glitsj16: pings normally :/
[17:41] <glitsj16> royal_screwup21: are you trying to block facebook alltogether? if so, it will need additional addresses, facebook uses a whole bunch .. or was that just an example in your paste?
[17:42] <tgm4883> royal_screwup21: well of course it's going to ping, it's pointed at 127.0.0.1
[17:43] <kenrin> If your facebook pings at localhost speeds are you sitting in their datacenter?
[17:43] <BluesKaj> jim_,  this may be closer than you think , but I use a Lenovo G500 laptop withg a TP-Link WDR-3600 router and attached TP-link modem..wifi works great on the bcm4313
[17:43] <tgm4883> royal_screwup21: Can you pastebin the output of your ping command
[17:44] <royal_screwup21> https://thepasteb.in/p/BghP2JNwnxDIY
[17:44] <jim_> BluesKaj: what would cause something that works under windows vbox usb passthru to block on the same kernel in kali?
[17:45] <jim_> its the same with all linux kernels i have tried across kali pentoo and 3 ubuntu lts's
[17:45] <BluesKaj> jim_,  no idea about kali on a VM
[17:46] <glitsj16> royal_screwup21: try adding https://git.io/vHySa to your /etc/hosts file if your goal is to block facebook
[17:46] <blkadder> royal_screwup21, What are the ownership and permissions on /etc/hosts?
[17:46] <blkadder> Also can you pastebin your /etc/nsswitch.conf?
[17:46] <royal_screwup21> blkadder I'm the root user
[17:46] <blkadder> royal_screwup21, That wasn't the question.
[17:47] <blkadder> ls -l /etc/hosts
[17:47] <royal_screwup21> blkadder oh, sorry, um, as for now, everything it's set 700
[17:48] <tgm4883> your hosts file is 700?
[17:48] <royal_screwup21> https://thepasteb.in/p/zmh8VNWMM1MiZ
[17:48] <tgm4883> royal_screwup21: because if it is, that would do it
[17:48] <royal_screwup21> yup, it is
[17:48] <tgm4883> royal_screwup21: should be 644
[17:49] <blkadder> Yes.
[17:49] <tgm4883> royal_screwup21: why did you change it
[17:51] <royal_screwup21> oops, my bad, I just did ls -l, and it says "-rw-r--r--". So it is 644
[17:51] <blkadder> Ok
[17:51] <blkadder> That's what it should be.
[17:52] <blkadder> I've tried reproducing your problem with www.facebook.com and I can't. It works as expected.
[17:52] <royal_screwup21> is your nsswitch.conf file the same as mine?
[17:52] <blkadder> That is it resolves to 127.0.0.1 as it should
[17:52] <tgm4883> I'd prefer you not guess the answers to the questions we're asking...
[17:52] <royal_screwup21> tgm4883 sorry about that, I'll careful here on out
[17:53] <blkadder> royal_screwup21, Yes it is.
[17:54] <tgm4883> royal_screwup21: can you post the link returned from running this command  "cat /var/log/installer/media-info | nc termbin.com 9999"
[17:55] <royal_screwup21> http://termbin.com/giwk
[17:58] <royal_screwup21> I'm guessing this problem is stemmed in my DNS cache requests. Even so, it doesn't make sense, because I tried replacing the facebook url with a site I rarely ever visited, and it still showed up when I typed it in my browser. Weird.
[17:58] <tgm4883> royal_screwup21: what else did you change on the box?
[17:59] <royal_screwup21> on the box?
[17:59] <tgm4883> royal_screwup21: yes, hosts file blocking works fine on a standard ubuntu install, so what else was changed?
[18:02] <royal_screwup21> apart from library upgrades and downloads, nothing much. What could be causing this problem?
[18:07] <royal_screwup21> bkladder your hosts file is exactly the same as mine?
[18:07] <tgm4883> royal_screwup21: IDK, doesn't make a ton of sense to me. long shot but can you post the 2 links from "cat /etc/hosts > /tmp/tmpcmd.log && ping -c 1 www.facebook.com >> /tmp/tmpcmd.log && nslookup www.facebook.com >> /tmp/tmpcmd.log && cat /tmp/tmpcmd.log | nc termbin.com 9999"
[18:08] <blkadder> royal_screwup21, Not exactly because I have different local host names but otherwise yes.
[18:08] <blkadder> I added 127.0.0.1 www.facebook.com at the end of my /etc/hosts file and that works as expected.
[18:09] <royal_screwup21> http://termbin.com/34a0
[18:09] <blkadder> Or just strace the ping.
[18:09] <blkadder> That worked.
[18:09] <tgm4883> royal_screwup21: can you change the hosts file to point www.facebook.com at 0.0.0.0 instead of 127.0.0.1
[18:10] <blkadder> tgm4883, Actually the resolution seemed to work according to the output.
[18:10] <blkadder> So why change to 0.0.0.0?
[18:11] <tgm4883> blkadder: because he can still look it up which means from a browser it's still working
[18:11] <royal_screwup21> It worked!!
[18:11] <blkadder> nslookup bypasses hosts file.
[18:11] <tgm4883> blkadder: odd, doesn't on mine
[18:11] <tgm4883> royal_screwup21: 0.0.0.0 worked?
[18:12] <royal_screwup21> tgm4883: yeah, I'm not able to open facebook anymore
[18:12] <tgm4883> ok
[18:12] <tgm4883> You should be using 0.0.0.0 instead of 127.0.0.1 anyway
[18:12] <royal_screwup21> thanks so much!
[18:12] <tgm4883> royal_screwup21: yw
[18:12] <blkadder> That makes no sense but glad it is working.
[18:13] <blkadder> 127.0.0.1 works just fine.
[18:13] <tgm4883> royal_screwup21: blkadder unless he's got a proxy on the box
[18:13]  * tgm4883 shrugs
[18:13] <blkadder> tgm4883, https://askubuntu.com/questions/627906/why-is-my-etc-hosts-file-not-queried-when-nslookup-tries-to-resolve-an-address
[18:14] <tgm4883> blkadder: don't know what to tell you. On my 17.04 system with www.facebook.com in my hosts file I can't find www.facebook.com with nslookup
[18:15] <royal_screwup21> for some reason, I'm still able to ping facebook though (even though 0.0.0.0 isn't my ip address). Is this expected?
[18:15] <tgm4883> royal_screwup21: no
[18:15] <tgm4883> royal_screwup21: you'd need to pastebin the ping output
[18:15] <royal_screwup21> https://thepasteb.in/p/JZhpML9R2DKsg
[18:16] <tgm4883> royal_screwup21: that's facebook.com not www.facebook.com
[18:16] <tgm4883> royal_screwup21: you'll need a hosts file entry for both, and a myriad of other facebook urls
[18:16] <oerheks_> small example of the tons of names facebook uses > https://gist.github.com/thomasbilk/1506210/2d20f47bbcca75b2f78d6909c1637501000d846f
[18:17] <tgm4883> There's probably a better way to block all of this in dnsmasq rather than the hosts file
[18:17] <royal_screwup21> tgm44883 ah yeah, that makes sense. At any rate, I'm not able ping www.facebook.com, or visit facebook at all
[18:17] <oerheks_> .. a bigger one ... ( not complete) http://geekussion.com/windows/block-facebook-hosts-file-windows-pc-99/#blocking-facebook-with-hosts-file
[18:22] <akik> dnsmasq reads the /etc/hosts file
[18:40] <Peter|---> good
[18:40] <Peter|---> how can i down spotify
[18:40] <Peter|---> is not repos
[18:41] <Peter|---> for music i use vlc
[18:41] <Peter|---> but for search song prefered ....
[18:41] <SuperSeriousCat> https://www.spotify.com/us/download/linux/
[18:42] <SuperSeriousCat> Official sites are often useful
[18:42] <Peter|---> take a key
[18:42] <Peter|---> but last not down thhis
[18:43] <Peter|---> look
[18:44] <Peter|---> SuperSeriousCat,
[18:44] <Peter|---> E: se interrumpió la ejecución de dpkg, debe ejecutar manualmente «sudo dpkg --configure -a» para corregir el problema
[18:44] <oerheks_> old page but up2date, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/01/how-to-install-spotify-in-ubuntu-12-04-12-10 >> " sudo apt-key adv --keyserver hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com:80 --recv-keys BBEBDCB318AD50EC6865090613B00F1FD2C19886 && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install spotify-client
[18:46] <Peter|---> ok thx
[18:51] <m4dh4tt4>  /\ what oerheks said, those last commands i can confirm gets it runing smooth
[19:02] <EriC^^> x
[19:02] <anddam> is there a way I can select the default grub entry (via /etc/default/grub or the like) so it'll be persistent when running grub-mkconfig?
[19:03] <EriC^^> anddam: GRUB_DEFAULT='menu entry title'
[19:03] <anddam> mm that's an integer here
[19:04] <anddam> I see it can be the index, but where should I have found that information?
[19:06] <EriC^^> the index number or the fact that it can be an index etc?
[19:07] <anddam> the fact that the option I was looking for was GRUB_DEFAULT
[19:08] <EriC^^> anddam: "info grub" might help
[19:09] <anddam> if I manually run grub-mkconfig I get a much smaller config file than what apt (or dpkg) created
[19:10] <anddam> how do I "properly" rebuild grub.cfg?
[19:12] <anddam> by properly I mean that my current config was generated by some package upgrade, likely a kernel
[19:12] <anddam> now I edited GRUB_DEFAULT and I'd like to rebuild that file like it was built in first place
[19:12] <anddam> if I run grub-mkconfig I get a 16 kB file vs the actual 30 kB
[19:12] <akik> anddam: sudo update-grub should do it
[19:14] <anddam> well, that got me the same file I manually generated, but overwrote existing one without asking
[19:14] <EriC^^> anddam: it shouldnt be any different, it must be less kernels are there now
[19:14] <anddam> so now it doesn't really matter what was in there :-)
[19:14] <anddam> EriC^^: likely
[19:14] <anddam> different topic, rfkill isn't saving state on a wireless computer I have here
[19:14] <EriC^^> the kernel package doesn't have a default grub.cfg it must call the same program to build it
[19:15] <anddam> EriC^^: I see
[19:16] <anddam> EriC^^: bootloader working as expected, thanks
[19:16] <EriC^^> cool, no problem
[19:18] <anddam> now I need to figure this rfkill service thing, this is very uncomfortable
[19:19] <anddam> rfkill is not saving the status of soft blocks when I shutdown the system, it's always starting wifi soft-locked
[19:19] <anddam> from what I gathered reading the docs it should save the status at shutdown instead
[19:19] <anddam> but it doesn't
[19:20] <anddam> sh*t, I followed a SO answer where a guy "fixed" that issue by installing urfkill on top, and it worked in my case as well
[19:20] <ikonia> anddam: control the langauge please
[19:20] <anddam> I just rebooted and the wifi is unlocked
[19:21] <anddam> ikonia: that's what I did with self-censoring
[19:21] <ikonia> anddam: the fact that I know what it means - you didkn't centos
[19:21] <ikonia> it's uncalled for
[19:21] <anddam> I apologize, will refrain from that allusion either
[19:21] <ikonia> censor even
[19:21] <ikonia> anddam: thank you
[19:21] <anddam> I'm not sure to follow what you meant there, but I get the point
[19:21] <cristian_c> ikonia, any ideas about screen resolution issue?
[19:22] <ikonia> cristian_c: what screen resolution issue ?
[19:22] <anddam> anyway the fact that the problem is solved with a solution that has apparently no relation is really irritating
[19:22] <cristian_c> ikonia: I can't use a new resolution set by cvt and xrandr
[19:22] <ikonia> cristian_c: oh yes, did you check the device identifier  ?
[19:22] <cristian_c> ikonia: yes
[19:23] <ikonia> was the device identifier correct ? as when I looked in the docs (glanced) cvt wasn't a valid option for an intel identifier
[19:23] <cristian_c> but it's only sh0wn: Identifier and not device identifier
[19:23] <ikonia> cristian_c: I think that will be the key, cvt is not an intel recognised identifier (I could be wrong though - I just glanced the docs)
[19:23] <cristian_c> as said, every video output has got an Identifier field, with hexadecimal values
[19:24] <cristian_c> in VGA-1 caee, I get 0x443
[19:24] <ikonia> cristian_c: ok - so why are you pushing cvt as an argument
[19:24] <cristian_c> *0x43
[19:24] <ikonia> what made you pick "cvt"
[19:25] <oerheks_> cristian_c, yesterday someone found out and told you it does not support cvt?
[19:25] <ikonia> I'm pretty sure I also said the same thing
[19:25] <ikonia> cvt was not a valid identifier, which explained the "unsupported argument error"
[19:25] <ikonia> but I'm working from memory I don't remember all the details
[19:25] <oerheks_> It might be you, ikonia, but i remembered as cristian_c is looking for an answer for days now.
[19:26] <cristian_c> ikonia: also in tgis channel, I was suggeeted to use cvt. In particular, I was suggested: https://askubuntu.com/questions/377937/how-to-set-a-custom-resolution
[19:26] <cristian_c> *this
[19:27] <ikonia> cristian_c: cvt is an application though
[19:27] <ikonia> not an identifier
[19:27] <EriC^^> cristian_c: why dont you use the xrandr method and add it to a startup script?
[19:27] <ikonia> cristian_c: what is the xrandr line you are using (sorry - I forget)
[19:27] <cristian_c> ikonia: yeah, as said identifier was 0x43
[19:28] <cristian_c> EriC^^: yeah, I've used xrandr newmode and addmode
[19:28] <EriC^^> cristian_c: type "cvt width height frequency"
[19:28] <cristian_c> I've done that
[19:29] <EriC^^> ok, xrandr --newmode "resolutionname" <modeline here>
[19:29] <EriC^^> modelis the numbers at the after the frequency
[19:29] <EriC^^> *modeline is
[19:29] <cristian_c> I've successfully createe the modeline by cvt, added it by xrandr --newmode and by xrandr --addmode, so the new resolution was shown by xrandr -q
[19:29] <EriC^^> at the end*
[19:30] <EriC^^> aha great, do now xrandr -s resolutionname
[19:30] <cristian_c> EriC^^: yeah, I've done that as explained in askubuntu and ubuntu wiki
[19:30] <cristian_c> :O
[19:30] <cristian_c> I didn't know -s
[19:30] <EriC^^> :D
[19:31] <cristian_c> I've tried xrandr --output VGA-1 newresolutionname and I got that ctco failed
[19:31] <cristian_c> *crtc0
[19:31] <EriC^^> aha, did -s work?
[19:31] <cristian_c> I've to try
[19:32] <EriC^^> i think you need after --output --mode resolutionname
[19:32]  * cristian_c is going to connect the projectorbut this time he  will not have login issues
[19:33] <cristian_c> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[19:33] <cristian_c> I'm pretty sure I've used the --mode option
[19:34] <cristian_c> but I check out the command output
[19:34] <EriC^^> is it an amd card?
[19:34]  * cristian_c had stored the outputs
[19:34] <cristian_c> EriC^^: not, intel
[19:35] <cristian_c> hd graphics
[19:35] <cristian_c> (ivy bridge)
[19:35] <EriC^^> cristian_c: this might help https://askubuntu.com/questions/136139/xrandr-configure-crtc-0-failed-when-trying-to-change-resolution-on-external-m
[19:37] <cristian_c> EriC^^: I confirm, I've used --mode string in that command
[19:37] <cristian_c> now, I'm gping to read the askubuntu thread
[19:38] <cristian_c> EriC^^: --verbose gives CRTC: 0 and CRTCs: 0 1 2
[19:40] <EriC^^> cristian_c: try xrandr xrandr --crtc CRT0 --output CRT0 --mode <modename>
[19:41] <cristian_c> EriC^^: I'll try --crtc argument method and also -s method
[19:41] <EriC^^> or with --output <actual output name>
[19:42] <EriC^^> cristian_c: --crtc has to be at the end of the command
[19:42] <cristian_c> EriC^^: xrandr shows only VGA1, HDMI1, DP1 and VIRTUAL1, not CRT1 or CRT0
[19:42] <cristian_c> ah, ok, sorry
[19:46] <jwash> hi everyone, 16.04 x64, i've got a discreet nvidia 425 graphics card with main intel graphics. Is here a definitive guide to installing bumblebee so that I can use optirun?
[19:48] <Azulflame> Ubuntu 16.04, MATE. When I run conky, I'm not able to right click on the desktop, and my hotkeys don't work unless I have a window selected. Application menu and launcher buttons still work. Is there a fix/workaround?
[19:50] <ioria> jwash, you really want to use bumblebee ?
[19:50] <Bashing-om> jwash: Why BumbleBee as it is depreciated in favor of nvidia-prime ? Have yopu tried nvidia-prime ?
[19:52] <donofrio> how do you remove repositories?
[19:52] <jwash> Bashing-on nope, i wasn't aware
[19:52] <jwash> ty for the tip
[19:53] <Bashing-om> jwash: :) .. uf ya install the proprietary driver . nvidia-prime also installs as a dependency .
[19:54] <ioria> jwash, you can't use it for single-program need btw
[19:55] <jwash> yea, i read that prime is always using the nvidia card
[19:55] <ioria> not always
[19:55] <donofrio> remove-apt-repository returns command not found?
[19:55] <jwash> i just install via the nvidia ppa right
[19:56] <Bashing-om> !ppa-purge | donofrio
[19:56] <ioria> jwash,  well, with gt 425m, you shouldn't have problems
[19:56] <BluesKaj> I thought nvidia-prime and the new bumblebee could be configured to gether
[19:56] <BluesKaj> together
[19:57] <Bashing-om> jwash: You may install from PPA . but the repo is the 1st line of defense .
[19:57] <donofrio> I have to install an app to remove a ppa, weird....adding one is built in?
[19:57] <Azulflame> removing them is built in too
[19:58] <Azulflame> but PPA-purge simplifies the process, and makes it easier to tell someone to do it
[19:58] <ioria> BluesKaj, prime and bumblebee together ? really  ?
[19:58] <Bashing-om> donofrio: Fepends on what you need and want to do . ' ppa-purge [ as the bot advises will revert the package to what is in the repo .
[19:58] <Bashing-om> Depends*
[19:58] <BluesKaj> ioria,  seems there were some users advising tht
[19:59] <ioria> BluesKaj, some links to it  ?
[19:59] <BluesKaj> they were in here
[19:59] <ioria> BluesKaj, ok, tx
[20:03] <BluesKaj> ioria,  prime indicator plus, http://www.webupd8.org/2016/10/prime-indicator-plus-makes-it-easy-to.html
[20:04] <ioria> mmmm
[20:04] <ioria> ok
[20:05] <BluesKaj> was mistaken about nvidia-prime and bumblebee, maybe that was the reference I saw
[20:05] <ioria> no prob
[20:12] <donofrio> so now I'm getting apaste.info/b2UL - :(
[20:15] <luccky> hello
[20:16] <luccky> how do I actually use wine
[20:16] <luccky> does it work through other app called playonlinux?
[20:16] <luccky> can't launch wine from gui
[20:16] <donofrio> so now I'm getting https://apaste.info/b2UL - :(
[20:17] <akik> luccky: config through winecfg, run exes with wine
[20:18] <YankDownUnder> luccky, #winehq would be the best place to start
[20:18] <donofrio> Azulflame, but it's still listsed ;( https://apaste.info/b2UL
[20:19] <Bashing-om> donofrio: " artful-updates  " Ya need in this case to be talking with #ubuntu+1 :)
[20:19] <donofrio> Bashing-om, I was only talking in regards to the ppa I just added and now want to remove
[20:21] <genii> !ppa-purge
[20:22] <donofrio> genii, I did that as you can see from my apaste - https://apaste.info/b2UL
[20:23] <luccky> thanks Yank
[20:26] <donofrio> -r seemed to work but now I'm getting "Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/team-xbmc/ppa/ubuntu/dists/artful/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found" ??
[20:30] <Bashing-om> donofrio: Read our topic . artful is not supported here .. talk in #ubuntu+1 .
[20:31] <oerheks_> donofrio, that ppa has no candidate for AA https://launchpad.net/~team-xbmc/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[20:31] <donofrio> Bashing-om, this is just a apt this geesh....nothing really to do with artful besides text on the screen, meh
[20:38] <darkenvy> I just installed UbuntuServer17.04, have an IP address but cannot even ping google
[20:38] <darkenvy> Where do I begin on debugging this problem?
[20:39] <donofrio> darkenvy, I've only ever been able to ping yahoo.com
[20:39] <donofrio> fwiw
[20:39] <donofrio> igmp is closed by many web hosters
[20:39] <darkenvy> igmp?
[20:39] <donofrio> icmp I meant
[20:40] <darkenvy> regardless, I know I dont have internet access. Cant even perform a apt-get update
[20:42] <Jordan_U> darkenvy: Can you ping 8.8.8.8?
[20:42] <Bearlindo>  hi im on my way to install ubuntu desktop on a old computer and i wonder is it possible to burn the iso on a disk and then install it when booting from that media?
[20:42] <darkenvy> I can ping 8.8.8.8 :)
[20:42] <darkenvy> Thats google's DNS right?
[20:43] <genii> yes
[20:43] <Jordan_U> darkenvy: Correct. So you seem to be having a DNS problem. Is this a static configuration or are you getting your DNS settings via DHCP?
[20:43] <darkenvy> should be via dhcp
[20:44] <darkenvy> auto enp5s0 iface enp5s0 inet hcp
[20:44] <darkenvy> in my interfaces file ^
[20:44] <tomreyn> Bearlindo: are you asking whether it's possible to burn the installation / live iso to optical media, boot the system you would like to install to from it and then install to this systems' hard disk?
[20:46] <tomreyn> this would indeed be the original / default installation method.
[20:46] <Bearlindo> tomreyn yes like you normally do with a windows disc
[20:47] <tomreyn> or pretty much any other operating system, yes ;)
[20:48] <Bearlindo> okay so the iso is burnaböe and then bootable
[20:48] <Bearlindo> burnable
[20:51] <darkenvy> any advice Jordan_U ?
[20:51] <darkenvy> oh
[20:51] <darkenvy> I got it working
[20:51] <darkenvy> adding "dns-nameserver 8.8.8.8" to my interfaces file worked
[20:52] <darkenvy> Thanks Jordan_U !
[21:00] <Paradox23> I start my desktop environment with startx but I want to switch to cinnamon, can I put the exec of cinnamon inside startx?
[21:02] <Bashing-om> Paradox23: See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomXSession for one means to do that .
[21:10] <tomreyn> Bearlindo: yes, all of the official installer isos are burnable and then bootable. that's really the main purpose of distributing something in ISO format. you can also write these ISO files to USB sticks and boot form those. this is not just as easily done are writing to optical media. but once it's written and bootable this is usually faster and also less error prone - optical media and drives, especially older ones, can be picky.
[22:07] <MWM> Any idea how long I will have to wait for no machine to work on 17.04?
[22:07] <MWM> or what I gotta do to force it into working order?
[22:07] <tiox> Right. So I am trying my hand ad taming fbterm again bit I'm not stroking something correctly. I use zsh, and I want to use fbterm as $TERM in TTY. I already  achieved execution with my .zlogin file but for some reason I cannot figure how to make fbterm do "export TERM=fbterm" at login, when fbterm is queued by zsh.
[22:08] <tiox> s/ad/at
[22:08] <tiox> s/bit/but
[22:14] <MWM> Im a bit unfamiliar with "backports: but is that what it is for?  running a program that works on previous versions?
[22:18] <glitsj16> tiox: have you tried setting that in ~/.fbtermrc?
[22:21] <glitsj16> tiox: if you do, the format in that file is `term=fbterm`, no exporting..
[22:21] <Bashing-om> MWM: Reverse of ^ . backports are packages from upstream made available to the current release .
[22:24] <xdevnull> Hello
[22:25] <MWM> well damn then.... is there something that does what I am talking about?  I moved from 16.04 to 17.04 and I would hate to have to move back
[22:26] <tomreyn> MWM: have you considered using X2GO instead of nomachine nx? it's open source and there's a PPA for 17.04
[22:26] <MWM> I can try X2GO but it worked terribly for 16.04
[22:26] <xdevnull> Is there any way to test speed test (the actuall speed my computer uses) no line speed?
[22:27] <MWM> xdevnull:  you mean like nethogs ? or am I misunderstanding what you want?
[22:28] <xdevnull> MWM, If i run any online speed test my results around 70mb. but sadly, it's very slow when i open any website? Like youtube etc.. Is there anyway to check "what speed" my computer actually using?
[22:28] <MWM> I did a fresh install of 17.04 on a completely wiped partition and when I went to reinstall no machine, it does not work.
[22:29] <tomreyn> xdevnull: if you have two linux systems on your LAN you could test the bandwidth between them using iperf. or you could just check the link speed the network interface is set to.
[22:30] <MWM> https://linux.die.net/man/8/nethogs  I beleive nethogs will tell you exactly how much of your bandwidth is being used by what application
[22:30] <tomreyn> xdevnull: sounds like you are referring to latency or packet loss now. you can ping some internet servers and see what that gives.
[22:31] <MWM> No machine webpage only lists to 16.10 and there are no reports in their forums or KB.  I dont see anyone else with this issue in a search of the internet
[22:31] <tomreyn> xdevnull: 'mtr' will ping all servers on the route to a given destination host, it can help you diagnose latency and packet loss to a degree.
[22:32] <MWM> I mgith just have to give teamviewer another shot then.  Its really too bad.  NX was damned good
[22:34] <xdevnull> tomreyn, Thanks!
[22:37] <Hankbonk> Hoya guys & dolls
[22:37] <Hankbonk> hiya
[22:38] <Hankbonk> I use Lubuntu, anyone else ?
[22:39] <tiox> glitsj16: Adding that to my fbtermrc still uses xterm-256color whch I need to have set in my .zshrc else powerlevel9k complains about a lack of xterm-256color not being specified in my graphical shell.
[22:40] <tiox> Yes I am one of "Those users", deal with it. B-D
[22:42] <Jordan_U> Hankbonk: This channel is for direct Ubuntu support. If you don't have a specific support question please move offtopic chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[22:42] <Hankbonk> ok, will do
[22:44] <MWM> it looks like Anydesk might do the trick. Ill still have to do some testing. If nothing else I will stop back in and let everyone know that I *didnt* get it working :)
[22:46] <glitsj16> tiox: sorry, can't help you there. My aquaintance with fbterm melted away after exchanging it with kmscon ..
[22:54] <tgm4883> Running 17.04, I've got a Dell Venue 11 Pro with an Intel Wireless 7260 and the wireless is non-functional after sleep
[22:56] <Mr_B> Hello!
[22:56] <Jordan_U> tgm4883: Use "lspci -k" to determine what kernel module your card uses, then try as a work around "usod rmmod MODULE && sudo modprobe MODULE".
[22:57] <glitsj16> tiox: Don't know how fbterm will react, but have you tried setting `term=xterm-256color` in ~/.fbtermrc yet? That is what you try to achieve if I understand you correctly yes?
[22:57] <Jordan_U> tgm4883: Whether or not that helps, please file a bug report about this problem.
[22:57] <tgm4883> Jordan_U: rebooting so lspci -k will show the device, one moment
[22:57] <dr_horrible> Just got an Dell XPS 13 with the 4K video output that they used to sell as a Linux Developer build since that should mean I could run HDMI from it's new Thunderbolt3 port.  NOT TRUE.
[22:59] <tgm4883> Jordan_U: iwlwifi, I think I did this before but trying again
[23:02] <tgm4883> no luck :(
[23:09] <Mr_B> Having a little bit of trouble installing Ubuntu Server 16.04.2 - Long story short, when I select install the machine restarts. I've tried to recreate the boot image on a usb drive 3 times with different creation programs. I'm not sure what to do now. The machine is an Intel i3 3200, with a gigabyte H77M-D3H. I'm missing something, I just know it.
[23:09] <Mr_B> Thanks in advance for any suggestions!
[23:11] <akik> Mr_B: insert usb stick, don't mount any of its partitions, "sudo dd if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdx bs=1024k", "sync"
[23:13] <Mr_B> @Akik- The machine I am trying to create the install usb on is a windows machine. :/
[23:13] <Mr_B> Unless I'm misunderstanding what you have to say... lol. Thanks for the help though!
[23:14] <Bashing-om> Mr_B: A thought; Windows fully shut down and not in hibernation ( fast boot ) ?
[23:14] <akik> Mr_B: use rufus. it has a dd write mode which you can activate with alt-i
[23:14] <tiox> glitsj16: That's what the term is already and it _isn't_ 256 colors. Or, fbterm's codes are not entirely ANSI-compatible.
[23:15] <tiox> Because fbterm shows as blue and grey for me with all the pl9k stuff that doesn't render correctly unles I set term to fbterm.
[23:15] <tiox> unless*
[23:15] <Mr_B> Akik, thank you. I will try and get back to you.
[23:16] <akik> Mr_B: i'm sleeping soon :)
[23:17] <tiox> I just want to make it so in a tty I don't have to type "export TERM=fbterm" when I sign into TTY but your instructions do not work... exactly. Maybe if I took out the 256-color stuff in zshrc...
[23:18] <Mr_B> Akik, sorry for my noobliness. I press alt-i in Rufus and it just enables/disables iso support. Should I try and remake the usb boot stick with Rufus? I've already tried once with that program.
[23:18] <Mr_B> And no worries, sleep if you have to lol ;)))
[23:18] <tiox> ...Nah.
[23:19] <Mr_B> Maybe I'm missing a boot flag while trying to install? The machine just goes black and restarts when I try to select install ubuntu server.
[23:20] <akik> Mr_B: the dd write mode does not modify the iso image but just writes it on the usb stick
[23:22] <akik> Mr_B: the terms are unknown to me. i don't know what it means to disable iso support. start rufus and then press alt-i once
[23:23] <Mr_B> Akik, I just did that and it appeared to do nothing. The only prompt was "ISO Support Disabled"
[23:24] <akik> Mr_B: if you got less choices then maybe it worked
[23:24] <glitsj16> tiox: If I remember correctly fbterm uses it's own (exotic) escape sequences to simulate xterm's 256 color mode, that's what the `fbterm` for $TERM is for. Unfamiliar with pl9k, but can you start that with the environment var `TERM=fbterm`? At least that should be possible according to man fbterm
[23:27] <Mr_B> Yeah, Akik. It appears to have done nothing. :( lol
[23:27] <akik> Mr_B: you should not select the file system type in the dd mode
[23:30] <tiox> I found a neat OMZ script that does exactly what I was looking for with execution; fbterm runs, then zsh exits itself so exit doesn't drop me to zsh.
[23:30] <glitsj16> tiox: :) problem solved?
[23:31] <tiox> ...Nah, I would still like for fbterm to set term to fbterm instead of xterm-256color.
[23:31] <tiox> Following your advice in any measure did ot help.
[23:31] <Mr_B> Akik, I do not understand. There are no options to select DD mode except for under "Create a bootable disk using: DD image" that is the only relevant thing I can find.
[23:31] <tiox> not*
[23:32] <akik> Mr_B: use that then
[23:32] <tiox> Then again what do I know, I'm an idiot.
[23:32] <thyriaen> hi, i just installed another desktop enviournement and now i would like to logout and select the new DE  on login - i know with with like gnome login screen you get that kind of option - however since i have lubuntu my login screen does not have that dropdown option where i can choose the DE - how can i easily switch between DEs now ?
[23:32] <glitsj16> tiox: so am I, looks like 2 idiots aren't smarter than one
[23:33] <tiox> But ten might be,
[23:33] <tiox> Anyway, for people rocking ZSH and wantign fbterm for TTY for any reason, this is a nice addin to zlogin; https://github.com/robbyrussell/oh-my-zsh/blob/master/plugins/fbterm/fbterm.plugin.zsh
[23:33] <tiox> wanting*
[23:35] <Mr_B> I don't think the problem is being understood properly. If anyone could chime in, I would appreciate it.
[23:36] <Mr_B> Akik, there is no DD image. I know, its late. ;)
[23:36] <glitsj16> tiox: Does zsh has a functional equivalent to ~/.profile in bash? I mean, something that gets called on login where you can export $TERM with fbterm? I'll stop confusing you after this last attempt at helping (things to fail miserably)
[23:36] <tiox> zprofile.
[23:37] <sgen> My main ethernet connection is currently named enp9s0 how can I change it back to the normal eth0?
[23:37] <akik> Mr_B: you use dd on linux to create the usb stick by writing the iso image on the usb stick
[23:37] <glitsj16> tiox: I guess you already tried exporting TERM in that file?
[23:37] <akik> Mr_B: there is no "dd image" per se
[23:37] <Mr_B> The machine I am trying to create the usb stick is Windows. I don't have a linux computer in the house atm.
[23:38] <tiox> I had not, but I worry that including the code there may cause the same issues I had when I use the code in zshrc.
[23:38] <akik> Mr_B: use rufus :) use the menu you found if alt-i doesn't work for you
[23:38] <tiox> Namely, garbage that is printed once per second since I have the term to refresh once per-second for a timer.
[23:39] <tiox> Normaly the right prompt is the only thing which updates, since it has information that (can) update once per-second.
[23:39] <tiox> Normally*
[23:39] <akik> Mr_B: If the ISO was created as hybrid, you may however be able to create a bootable USB image by disabling ISO suppport (Alt-I) and using DD-Image mode, or selecting "Write in DD-Image mode" when prompted.
[23:40] <MWM> So No Machine is definately still a no go, but AnyDesk works.  X2go is still BS with poor quality, and setting up TightVNC or anything else is more than I can be bothered with atm as it stretches my skillz too much :D
[23:41] <MWM> I sent a Nag Note in to No Machine to inform them, but I was wondering if I should inform Ubuntu (or Canonical whatever) about this as well?
[23:41] <Mr_B> Akik, okay that makes more sense. :) I just pressed Alt-I and disabled iso support. Using DD-image now and its writing image.
[23:41] <sgen> Ive tried this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/767786/changing-network-interfaces-name-ubuntu-16-04#answer-801310 but it didnt work
[23:41] <Mr_B> What is the significance of this process?
[23:42] <akik> Mr_B: i say good night to myself now
[23:42] <ikonia> MWM: tell canonical what ?
[23:42] <Mr_B> Akik- Goodnight :)
[23:42] <tiox> So right, this is the stuff I am including in the code (printed as a single line for brevity; if [[ "$TTY" = /dev/tty* ]] ; then export TERM="fbterm" fi
[23:42] <MWM> Just use Rufus.  it works every time :D
[23:42] <Mr_B> I did use Rufus at first, and it did not work :/
[23:42] <tiox> Bbascially modifying the code from that OMZ git link for zlogin but that did not work.
[23:43] <tiox> Again, I'm stupid af.
[23:43] <MWM> ikonia:  that No machine will not work in 17.04 SOrry I was in here about 1/2 an hour ago bitching and figured everyone still remembered  :)
[23:43] <ikonia> MWM: how is that canonicals poroblem ?
[23:44] <tiox> s/"/;"/"/)/;
[23:44] <tiox> "
[23:45] <MWM> ikonia:  Im not certain it is.  Honestly I am a bit new to knowing whos problem it would be.  All I know is it used to work and now it doesnt.  I fired off an email to No Machine and am not sure if Ubuntu would want to know also... thats what the question is :D
[23:45] <ikonia> MWM: it's not an ubuntu product, and I don't believe debian/ubuntu builds the packages
[23:46] <MWM> Mr_B: did you verify the integrity of your ISO?  So many times when an install doesnt work I have found that the checksums dont match
[23:47] <Mr_B> MWM, no I hadn't. Thanks for your input though! I didn't think that would cause the machine to reboot when I try to hit install in the first menu. How would I verify the integrity? lol :/
[23:47] <glitsj16> tiox: might be more productive if you asked on the GH site you're referring to (file an issue) .. not much input here from people it seems
[23:48] <MWM> the process varies depending on whether you are using WIndows or Linux to download with but https://www.ubuntu.com/download/how-to-verify will get you started.  read that and if you have any questions ask some more questions :)
[23:50] <MWM> ikonia:  that helps me understand a little.  I guess I just had this idea that Ubuntu/Canonical maintained just about everything except for individual ppa's and such
[23:52] <MWM> Mr_B:  a corrupt download/checksum mismatch can cause anything from not loading at all to incorrect installation or even problems past the installation stage.  You will save yourself alot of headaches if you verify your iso before you make the usb stick
[23:52] <tiox> I guess that's what I get when I choose to buck the trend?
[23:53] <tiox> Most people use om-my-zsh, antigen or prezto to configure zsh (sometimes combinations of these tools) but I find that adds a lot of bloat which is otherwise unnecessary if I hand-craft some of the shell stuff myself.
[23:53] <tiox> oh-my-zsh*
[23:54] <glitsj16> tiox: you need a good dose of luck on IRC to stumble upon someone who happens to have a similar interest, keep working at it I'd say, the world needs people bucking trends ;à
[23:59] <MWM> jebus now my keyboard is all wonky.  keys are re-arranged or something