[01:13] <[Relic]> that didn't work either, when the usb for 17.04 is started in uefi mode it goes to grub, when started in legacy mode nothing
[01:15] <[Relic]> any ideas on how to fix the disk or whatever is needed to make the usb drive bootable properly?
[02:01] <valorie> [Relic]: what do you mean started in uefi/legacy "mode"?
[02:01] <valorie> you turned off uefi in your bios before restarting?
[02:02] <[Relic]> tried that too, didn't work, tried uefi only that didn't work
[02:02] <valorie> have you ever had a linux system running on this box?
[02:02] <[Relic]> first stick was erroring out so I got another usb stick this one goes to grub
[02:02] <valorie> not a live session?
[02:02] <valorie> that is so bizarre
[02:02] <[Relic]> nope grub 2 and no other access
[02:03] <valorie> I've never heard of that in over 15 years of using linux
[02:03] <valorie> are you sure that the USB is even booting?
[02:04] <valorie> sounds to me like your computer is just booting as usual and ignoring the USB
[02:04] <[Relic]> can plug it in and access the whole thing used DD to write the iso to it, can still call it up just by plugging it into a usb port
[02:04] <valorie> I understand
[02:04] <valorie> but you have sometimes to reset the boot order
[02:05] <valorie> so that it will boot from USB rather than the hard drive
[02:05] <[Relic]> been there done that it loads to grub2 command line thinigie I am unfamiliar with
[02:06] <valorie> we no longer have an ISO that boots to the commandline
[02:06] <valorie> I think lubuntu still does, but we (Kubuntu) do not
[02:06] <[Relic]> this boots to grub2
[02:06] <valorie> so it's booting to your computer
[02:06] <valorie> not the USB
[02:07] <valorie> because there is no grub installed on your USB
[02:07] <[Relic]> it is booting from the usb drive, it if booted from the computer 14.04 and it's not set on quiet so I know when this comes up
[02:08] <valorie> what are the selections offered from this grub?
[02:10] <[Relic]> it *isn't* the normal grub select screen for Ubuntu, memtest, (pick your linux kernel version),  all it says is some long winded grub2 line and "grub>" commandline to do things like reboot, exit search.file, etc
[02:10] <[Relic]> it is text and I can't screen shot it since the main system doesn't come up
[02:12] <[Relic]> back in a few gonna test this again
[02:26] <[Relic]> that didn't work either
[02:49] <[Relic]> trying another usb stick now, it came up as "GNU Grub version 2.02!beta3-4ubuntu2"  Minimal BASHlike editing supported on the last one
[03:24] <[Relic]> thinking of packing it in on this one, no luck third usb stick either just get the gnu grub to come up
[06:46] <tmbr> hi
[06:48] <tmbr_> hi
[06:49] <tmbr_> is anyone able to help me with an audio problem?
[06:50] <tmbr_> hello?
[06:51] <ribbley> maybe, describe ur problem first
[06:51] <tmbr_> well... audio was working fine earlier today then after a reboot it stopped
[06:52] <tmbr_> the pc might have crashed, but im not sure
[06:52] <tmbr_> it doesnt seem to recognize the sound card now
[06:53] <ribbley> does a soundcard appear in e.g. alsamixer?
[06:54] <tmbr_> from my reading kubuntu uses pulse now? alsa doesnt seem to want to run
[06:54] <PinskyPR> Jews make up 44% of the 1% yet are 1% of the population. #SMASHJEWISHPRIVILEGE
[06:54] <tmbr_> woooooow
[06:55] <PinskyPR> and you just know some kike scum bag is going to kick me for that. =P
[06:55] <tmbr_> ribbley i am new to linux and what i find online seems outdates and/or contradictory. sorry
[06:56] <tmbr_> outdated*
[06:58] <hateball> tmbr_: run "pulseaudio -k" to restart audio
[06:59] <tmbr_> thanks hateball
[07:00] <tmbr_> should it have reported anything?
[07:00] <hateball> Nope
[07:01] <tmbr_> no change in the settings dialog
[07:01] <hateball> tmbr_: Did you have a kernel update? That could have caused a regression
[07:01] <hateball> tmbr_: What audio chipset? Use lspci or lshw to find out
[07:01] <hateball> !paste
[07:01] <tmbr_> honestly i am so new to linux i havent a clue
[07:02] <tmbr_> lspci says intel 6 series c200
[07:03] <tmbr_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24847406/
[07:06] <tmbr_> im guessing some file got corrupted
[07:06] <tmbr_> but i dont know enough to know what or how to fix it
[07:08] <tmbr_> any ideas on what might be wrong?
[07:09] <Smeitor> How I can  install the python 3.5  and modules
[07:10] <tmbr_> google turned up this smeitor https://askubuntu.com/questions/798123/how-do-i-install-python-3-5-2
[07:10] <tmbr_> specifically this...
[07:10] <tmbr_> sudo apt-get update
[07:10] <tmbr_> sudo apt-get install python3
[07:10] <tmbr_> i hope that helps
[07:16] <hateball> tmbr_: well lets start with "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade"
[07:16] <hateball> tmbr_: to make sure you're fully updated
[07:21] <tmbr_> ok well its late so im going to bed. thanks for the attempts at help all. i might be back tomorrow if i cant figure this out.
[12:28] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[13:13] <remi_> Hi !
[13:14] <lordievader> Hey remi_
[13:23] <EvilRoey> hey g'morning lordievader
[13:23] <EvilRoey> I mean good afternoon
[13:23] <EvilRoey> you're in the Netherlands, right?
[13:23] <lordievader> Hey EvilRoey
[13:24] <lordievader> Yes, I am.
[13:24] <EvilRoey> cool cool
[13:24] <EvilRoey> lordievader: you're a student?
[13:24] <EvilRoey> How old are you, out of curiosity?
[13:24] <lordievader> I'm doing okay, how are you?
[13:24] <EvilRoey> (I'm 36)
[13:24] <EvilRoey> lordievader: I'm feeling fantastic!!
[13:24] <lordievader> EvilRoey: I still am, couple of months left.
[13:24] <EvilRoey> thinking about my gardening
[13:24] <EvilRoey> lordievader: aye cool :)
[13:24] <EvilRoey> lordievader: whatcha studying?
[13:24] <lordievader> EvilRoey: Shall we move to #kubuntu-offtopic?
[13:25] <EvilRoey> sure
[17:06] <micdel> Hi there
[17:09] <micdel> Since yesterday I can't open systemsettings5. It displays an error message: "System Settings was unable to find any views, and hence has nothing to display". Already tried restarting and reinstalling/updating. Still having this issue. Also have ask Google. Didn't help. Some ideas what to look for or what to try next?
[17:09] <micdel> asked*
[17:11] <micdel> I'm using Kubuntu 16.04.2
[17:12] <genii> Did you do something previously like run a graphical app with sudo just before this began?
[17:13] <micdel> Can't remember that I did something I haven't done before.
[17:16] <micdel> I did an update yesterday, but I'm not sure if it has occured afterwards or already before
[17:16] <genii> micdel: I would suggest to make sure all the files in your home directory all belong to you. So something like: sudo chown -R yourusername:yourusername /home/yourusername then logout to sddm/lightdm then back in again and see if you can start systemsettings after that
[17:18] <micdel> Ah, thank you! I deleted .cache and it was recreated owned by root. No need for logout, changing the owner already fixed it. Thanks for support!
[17:19] <genii> micdel: Glad to assist
[18:16] <EvilRoey> hi
[18:16] <EvilRoey> how do I get dolphin to show me file-size view?
[18:17] <EvilRoey> which plugin provides this?
[18:18] <EvilRoey> lordievader: ^
[18:42] <himcesjf> EvilRoey: Correct me, are you talking about 'Details view mode'?
[18:49] <EvilRoey> himcesjf: whichever mode it is that shows you boxes representing how much space things take up
[18:50] <himcesjf> Boxes, is it the default options in Dolphin or employed through plugins?
[18:50] <himcesjf> If you are talking about 'Details view mode', you can access it from toolbar - fifth option from left in the toolbar in default settings of dolphin. (If your toolbar is hidden, you can unhide it from menu bar. If your menu bar is hidden, you can unhide it using keyboard shortcut 'Ctrl+M')
[18:51] <EvilRoey> himcesjf: ah
[18:51] <EvilRoey> himcesjf: I tried details view; it is not what Imeant
[18:51] <himcesjf> Oh
[18:51] <EvilRoey> this is the view where you can see the relative sizes of directories
[18:52] <EvilRoey> it shows you boxes of varying widths and heights
[18:52] <EvilRoey> letting you easily find what is taking up space
[19:34] <[Relic]> One step closer to getting a working 17.04 usb drive, yay!
[19:36] <himcesjf> !info filelight
[19:36] <himcesjf> EvilRoey: That^ ?
[19:37] <himcesjf> Well, you said part of Dolphin.
[19:37]  * himcesjf looks
[19:38] <[Relic]> now I just need to figure out how to format a working usb drive to W95 FAT32 (LBA)
[19:45] <[Relic]> ok, gparted can';t do it
[19:55] <genii> [Relic]: sudo fdisk /dev/sdX ( where X is the actual drive), use t to change type to c , then use w to write the changes and exit. Then sudo mkfs.vfat -F32 /dev/SDX
[19:56] <genii> sudo mkfs.vfat -F32 /dev/sdX#   rather, where X is the drive and # is the partition number
[19:56] <Oimat> Hi, on Ubuntu 16.04, after a reboot, my touchpad doesn't work anymore. I saw that this is related to my fn key not beeing recognized anymore too. Any idea how to reactivate it ? Thanks :D
[21:18] <[Relic]> that didn't even work, not sure why I can't get it to take c instead of b, (this is k14.04)
[21:22] <[Relic]> got it now, needed to get rid of the number
[21:24] <[Relic]> One more dd and lets see if it works finally
[21:58] <fuze> will plasma upgrade itself through the kubuntu repositories or do i have to do it manually?
[22:01] <[Relic]> somehow it didn't get marked as bootable
[22:03] <mparillo> fuze: At some point, you will need to enable Kubuntu-backports, as they are not enabled by default. Here is an example news item: http://kubuntu.org/news/kde-pim-update-now-available-for-zesty-zapus-17-04/
[22:04] <fuze> i thought the backports PPAs were for experimental software?
[22:05] <mparillo> The kubunut-backports are for updates that are not delivered through normal ubuntu updates. Generally KDE Plasma, Apps, and Frameworks.
[22:12] <fuze> mparillo: if i run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade could it get it from there?
[22:19] <[Relic]> so is there any way in 14.04 to create a W95 FAT32 (LBA) (mode letter 'c') usb disk with the ability to boot? or switch one that isn't bootable to be bootable; start up disk creator, gparted and commandline (I have found or been told) have failed so far
[22:22] <genii> Get a FreeDOS bootable image and dd it to a stick
[23:02] <fuze> will backport packages eventually show up on the main repository?