[00:00] <migssgim> hello
[00:00] <migssgim> Does everyone see me?
[00:01] <glitsj16> we can read you just fine
[00:01] <Bashing-om> migssgim: I read you :)
[00:01] <migssgim> ok great
[00:01] <migssgim> thanks I was having trouble registering
[00:02] <migssgim> I am having trouble installing wine from Ubuntu software
[00:02] <migssgim> it just says it is installing and it has been like an hour
[00:03] <migssgim> It has a progress bar of about a half, but doesn't continue
[00:04] <glitsj16> that's the thing about GUI's, when stuck your as good as left clueless
[00:04] <glitsj16> migssgim: can you kill it and try using a terminal?
[00:05] <migssgim> glitsj16, how do I kill it? which process is it?
[00:05] <migssgim> glitsj16, I look in the system monitor and i don't see it
[00:06] <glitsj16> migssgim: i don't know actually, i don't use it.. ah, it might be a python app, not showing it's actual name like most other processess
[00:07] <migssgim> I guess I will log out and back in
[00:07] <glitsj16> migssgim: are you using unity? gnome-shell? should be a right-click option to kill it
[00:07] <migssgim> unity
[00:08] <migssgim> glitsj16, no I am not sure which process it is
[00:09] <Bashing-om> migssgim: Died ? Do you get more than the grep return from : ps aux | grep 'Z' ?
[00:11] <migssgim> Bashing-om,
[00:11] <migssgim> ye
[00:12] <migssgim> Bashing-om, yes winetricks is saying that is loading in the launcher
[00:30] <glitsj16> calling it quits, bye people
[00:32] <Victor83> Hi, guys! which app can you suggest for desktop sharing with skype call?
[01:02] <bray90820> Maybe someone here can help me I can't seem to enable bluetooth there is no hard or soft block and lsusb says it's enabled but bluetooth settings says disabled
[01:23] <vicfred> Hi, I have a problem with llvm from the llvm repos. I have llvm-4.0 and llvm-5.0 installed but some packages related to the 4.0 version bugged and are conflicting, how do I remove them? apt-get remove wont leave me because it complains about unmet dependencies.
[01:24] <supercom32> Anyone know why that, when I install a package ("libboost-all-dev" for example), it says it will take up x amount of MB, and when I do a remove, it seems to say the action will free up significantly less than it told me for the install?
[01:24] <vicfred> at this point I just want to remove all the 4.0 packages but it wont leave me
[01:40] <momofarm> about an sort of ancient bug: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/12477435/window-appears-off-screen-on-ubuntu/13303957#13303957?newreg=777800df364c40d0bbbd163d7a21868b
[01:40] <momofarm> is there any one try to fix this?
[02:07] <sierradump> Does anyone know or have a link to any documentation that says exactly how the 16.04 installer sets up LVM and does encryption when you select those options at time of install.  I want to use those options - but I don’t want an 8GB swap :( I want to modify (delete) the swap (as im installing to removable media)
[02:14] <Mr_B> Hello! :)
[02:18] <Mr_B> What is the significance of 'useradd -m'? Specifically the -m.
[02:20] <w9qbj> Mr_B: try 'useradd --help'   That command will tell you.  or try 'man useradd' for a more verbose description
[02:21] <Mr_B> Ah! Gotcha. Thanks. :)
[03:06] <belea> anyone has any idea what would happen if i were to run multiple gpus underpowered ?
[03:06] <belea> :-?
[03:07] <bazhang> belea, thats a hardware issue
[03:07] <belea> any idea in which channel i should try to assk that ?
[03:07] <belea> :-?
[03:07] <bazhang> ##hardware
[03:07] <belea> thanks :)
[03:20] <kelvinella> is unity dead?
[03:21] <xangua> kelvinella: unity 7 is
[03:30] <bray90820> I have a bluetooth speaker with an integrated microphone is there a way I can turn off input on it so I can use A2DP
[04:00] <EldonMcGuinness> Never had a lot of luck with unity nor gnome with bluetooth and A2DP with headsets
[04:04] <agc93> quick APT question: is there any way to install a package from a given repo URL *without* modifying sources.list entries? i.e. something like DNF's --from-repo option for example?
[04:07] <mutante> i wouldn't recommend it but i guess i could say "just wget the file and dpkg -i"
[04:07] <mutante> then it's not an APT question anymore :p
[04:07] <mutante> but the result would be kind of the same
[04:08] <loganlee> there's a heap of difference on my thinking ability with/without coffee
[04:34] <agc93> mutante: yeah I was hoping for a one-line "run this command to install the package and dependencies, no interaction required" (something like dnf install -y --from-repo etc etc), but looks like that's not possible :(
[04:56] <jmadero> hi all - I have "my-libre-office-calc.desktop in ~/.local/share/applications, content is here: https://pastebin.com/CRbpF8jp
[04:56] <jmadero> I'm not seeing "My LibreOffice Calc" at all in my applications
[05:32] <dalto> anyone: care to assist getting a WiFi dongle setup?
[05:46] <dalto> more specific (just read some rules) - would the guide found here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/512727/how-to-install-driver-for-tp-link-tl-wn722n-on-ubuntu-14-04 provided by mchid work for Bodhi Linux and the TP-LINK TL-WN722N? Apologies for asking in #ubuntu but it's very quiet over at #bodhi and I haven't done this before in any Linux
[05:48] <dalto> Just unboxed the mentioned WiFi dongle but don't know where to start
[05:48] <Guy1524> so I had a BIOS installation of ubuntu on a hard drive that I wanted to replace but keep the data partition to access from a new isntallation that is UEFI
[05:49] <Guy1524> so I ran the installer, did something else, made an efi system partition, and an ext4 partition before the old one
[05:49] <Guy1524> I set the boot loader to install onto /dev/sda, the drive I want, and the installation completed successfully
[05:49] <Guy1524> however, when I boot up, it boots into the old BIOS installation
[06:17] <azizLIGHT> how do i turnt the bass up :P
[06:22] <azizLIGHT> jmadero did you chmod +x the .desktop file
[06:45] <Dave_Elec> Guys is kbyte fingerprint supported by ubuntu, or is there any workaround?
[06:48] <Mrokii> Hello. I have a problem with a new harddisk. I used GParted to create a new ext4-partition on the HD (which worked without errors). But when I look at the HD in the file manager, it is completely owned by root, as it seems. I can only create items with sudo. Shouldn't it be owned by my non-root user account? Or did I do something wrong?
[06:50] <kenrin> Did you mount it and chown to your user ?
[06:51] <Dave_Elec> Mrokii: this might be usefull https://askubuntu.com/questions/74806/how-can-i-change-permissions-on-external-drives
[06:51] <Mrokii> kenrin: Can I chown the complete harddrive to me? I didn't know that.
[06:52] <Mrokii> kenrin: Thanks, that might be of help.
[06:53] <Mrokii> kenrin: Yep, worked now. Many thanks!
[06:53] <Dave_Elec> Guys is kbyte fingerprint supported by ubuntu, or is there any workaround?
[07:03] <laceylaney> HI Guys. I'm looking to clear out my computer of unwanted / unnecessary files created by the likes of apt etc. Anyone know a command I can run ??
[07:10] <laceylaney> Using irssi from inside a terminal for the first time. Pretty cool I must say, though I think I still prefer using pidgin....
[07:11] <SwedeMike> laceylaney: "apt-get clean" will remove downloaded, cached files.
[07:22] <laceylaney> Awesome thank you for the command :-) Running it now :-)
[07:23] <laceylaney> I also just came across stacer on omgubuntu. Going to install it because it looks like something I may have use for :-)
[08:56] <alkisg> I have another case now where disk reads = 200 MB/sec on HDD, 300 MB/sec on SDD, while writes = 2 MB/sec on HDD, 6 MB/sec on SDD. Has anyone heard about any recent kernel bugs that could cause this?
[08:56] <alkisg> (hi all, btw :))
[08:59] <michael_p> i need some help on file search with the title eg like hello 100x100.jpg is there away to get rid of that in bulk
[08:59] <k_sze[work]> In Ubuntu 14.04.5, locale-gen doesn't seem to look at /etc/locale.gen. What does it look at instead?
[09:01] <laceylaney> michael_p: do you mean like remove the 100x100 :?
[09:02] <michael_p> yep i have 300 of them
[09:03] <viStefan> Hello there, I'm in trouble. I have russian Ubuntu 16.04. Unity keeps *.desctop files in /user/share/applications/. But apps entries in menus are named russian, while *.desctop files are all english. E.g. Software Center is called Менеджер приложений. There is also keywords, but english keywords doesn't work in lens and menus. So, I have no idea how to rename any launch icon.
[09:03] <laceylaney> michael_p: give me a sec...
[09:06] <laceylaney> michael_p: check out >> https://launchpad.net/pyrenamer I have used it in the past and can vouch for it working :-)
[09:07] <laceylaney> ~michael_p: I haven't needed to bulk rename anything in ages but that app should do exactly what you want / need
[09:17] <Trioxin> what's the super fly web hosting panel for Ubuntu?
[09:51] <moongazer> Hi. I just got a new computer and installed windows 10 on it. Now I want to install ubuntu. What should I do?
[09:52] <kostkon> !dualboot
[09:53] <moongazer> I want to use ' something else ' in the installation to select the drives as I want. I create and ext4 and swap partition. But by default, ubuntu creates efi as well. So I am confused kostkon
[09:54] <kostkon> moongazer, ok
[09:55] <moongazer> kostkon: do I manually have to create an efi partition as well
[09:55] <moongazer> These new uefi bios confuses me a lot
[09:55] <kostkon> moongazer, can't help you on that. someone else might be able to
[10:08] <mentoc> hi, how would I go about finding out if a video card works for my motherboard?
[10:10] <hateball> mentoc: plug it in, try to boot
[10:11] <erchache2000> im triying to compile iperf3 static but i cant
[10:12] <erchache2000> im using ./configure --enable-static --disable-shared ; make ; make install
[10:12] <erchache2000> and file show it’s dinamic
[10:12] <laceylaney> mentoc: http://bit.ly/2siRa6m
[10:12] <erchache2000> iperf3: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.24, BuildID[sha1]=0x100df5ae91859236206854243a223a96b55b90b5, not stripped
[10:12] <laceylaney> mentoc: have a read through that link :-)
[10:12] <erchache2000> any tips to build static?
[10:47] <necrophcodr> I'm using the Thunar filemanager to connect to a server over SFTP, but it keeps rejecting me
[10:47] <necrophcodr> I have a non-standard port defined in .ssh/config, but this specific server needs to be accessed on a different port.
[10:47] <necrophcodr> How would I go about this?
[11:03] <Gattyman> Hey?
[11:04] <moongazer> I created a /boot/efi partition while installing ubuntu
[11:04] <moongazer> Two file systems are assigned the same mount point (/boot/efi):
[11:04] <moongazer> I get the above error
[11:05] <akik> moongazer: you probably had the efi system partition already
[11:05] <moongazer> akik: I am pretty sure windows as done it
[11:05] <moongazer> What do I do now?
[11:05] <akik> moongazer: yes, ubuntu uses the same one
[11:06] <ppf> moongazer: can you paste your fstab
[11:06]  * Gattyman thanks @Drone`
[11:06] <moongazer> ppf: yes
[11:06] <moongazer> I am in the middle of a live installion right now
[11:07] <moongazer> akik, ppf : How do I paste the fstab?
[11:07] <moongazer> I mean what terminal command
[11:07] <ppf> !paste
[11:07] <Gattyman> Guys sorry to disturb this whole help out session but can someone show me whats more in IRC? I'm new to all this
[11:08] <moongazer> ppf: I mean what do I paste
[11:08] <moongazer> Gattyman: IRC == my life
[11:09] <akik> moongazer: install pastebinit or use "cat /etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999"
[11:10] <Gattyman> How to tag someone else?
[11:10] <cfhowlett> !tab | Gattyman
[11:10] <Gattyman> How to use in general?
[11:11] <moongazer> akik: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24848444/ Now, I have created one /boot/efi with FAT32 and there is this another one called windows efi loader at sda2 while mine is at sda8
[11:11] <Gattyman> !tab | moongazer
[11:11] <Gattyman> Is that a bot?
[11:12] <Fuchs> that is a bot, yes
[11:12] <moongazer> Gattyman: yes, lol what are you doing
[11:12] <Fuchs> make sure to not abuse it
[11:12] <moongazer> akik: ?
[11:13] <moongazer> akik: I followed this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DiskSpace
[11:13] <Gattyman> Can anyone give me a link to site with list of commands that I learn to help me grasp more about how to use IRCs?
[11:14] <ppf> moongazer: that's the live systems fstab
[11:14] <ppf> we need the one of your installed system
[11:14] <cfhowlett> Gattyman, /join #channelname  /ignore sillytrollname /exit       what else would you need?
[11:15] <akik> moongazer: don't create another efi system partition if you already have one
[11:15] <Gattyman> To put someone's name before my message like how moongazer did
[11:16] <Thanzex> Hi there! I'm dual booting Ubuntu 17 on a laptop with a 960m, I was trying to install a specific version of the Nvidia drivers because 375.66 were giving me problems, so I downloaded the .run from Nvidia, entered tty stopped lightdm and modified modprobe to blacklist nouveau but at the end the Nvidia installer failed. So I reverted the changes that
[11:16] <Thanzex>  I made ( or so I thought )  and rebooted. Unfortunately I cannot get past the login screen, I tried reinstalling nouveau and reconfiguring xorg but I still can't get past the login screen, in tty if I try to start lightdm service it spits out a couple of errors, any idea? ( I'm not too experienced)
[11:16] <cfhowlett> Gattyman, go back up and read the tab notice message sent earlier
[11:16] <Gattyman> Okay ❤
[11:19] <moongazer> ppf: akik I HAVE NO Installed system got a new laptop installed win10 now installing ubuntu
[11:19] <moongazer> I am on a live installation right now
[11:20] <moongazer> ppf: akik ???
[11:21] <ppf> then what's the issue?
[11:21] <ppf> you want to install ubuntu next to win10?
[11:22] <akik> moongazer: remove the sda8 partition you made
[11:22] <ppf> or instead of?
[11:22] <moongazer> ppf: akik The error I mentioned is the issue. The diskspace page mentions I should create the partition with the mountpoint /boot/efi and you are asking me not to do it
[11:22] <moongazer> ppf: Alongside, and have this partitioning scheme and size
[11:24] <moongazer> I did it
[11:24] <ppf> which partitioning scheme?
[11:24] <akik> moongazer: let /boot/efi point to sda2
[11:24] <moongazer> shit
[11:24] <moongazer> akik: WHy didn't you tell me earlier
[11:25] <akik> moongazer: nothing bad has happened, relax
[11:25] <moongazer> akik: I started it
[11:25] <moongazer> akik: Shall I restart and do what you said again
[11:25] <moongazer> I hope windows is not broken
[11:25] <moongazer> akik: ??
[11:26] <akik> moongazer: you can restart the installation if you didn't set /boot/efi mountpoint. i don't know if the installer knows to handle it automatically
[11:26] <moongazer> akik: Great
[11:27] <Jiro> Hello everyone! I was able to redirect syslog to a remote machine on a non systemd machine. How do I do this on Ubuntu 16.04 with systemd?
[11:27] <moongazer> I hope that nothing is broken
[11:27] <moongazer> Haaaaaaaaaa\
[11:27] <akik> moongazer: you are not touching the windows installation now
[11:28] <akik> moongazer: but they share the efi system partition
[11:28] <moongazer> akik: I think the page mentions that after we go after the partitioning step there is no going back
[11:28] <moongazer> It now says that ubi partitioning is not working
[11:28] <moongazer> GREAT\
[11:28] <moongazer> Do the entire thing again now
[11:28] <moongazer> sucks
[11:29] <akik> moongazer: this was your clue "Two file systems are assigned the same mount point (/boot/efi):"
[11:29] <moongazer> akik: I should not have restarted it
[11:29] <moongazer> Got to go b
[11:29] <moongazer> bye
[11:53] <enkeyz> hello guys: can somebody post the default gnome terminal colorscheme - maybe export to a text file? this one: https://i.stack.imgur.com/wSHPb.png
[11:54] <enkeyz> using arch linux now, but I really liked this colorscheme
[11:55] <moongazer> Hey
[11:55] <moongazer> I am back
[11:56] <moongazer> What do I do now
[11:57] <moongazer> akik: ??
[11:58] <moongazer> Well, the installation is going fine now
[11:58] <moongazer> thank you people
[12:10]  * SkylakeMX is looking for people that need help
[12:25] <mechmaster> hi , friends , I installed ubuntu , for a 50mgb of /boot partition , now i have problems with linux-image version , how to increase the size after that without uinstalling
[12:25] <tomodachi> mechmaster: resize the partition
[12:25] <mechmaster> how?
[12:25] <tomodachi> mechmaster: done from a usb live stick preferably
[12:26] <mechmaster> a boot form cd , won't solve it
[12:26] <tomodachi> it's most easy if you are not booting from the filesystem you are trying to resize
[12:26] <tomodachi> so start from a livcd on the comp
[12:26] <tomodachi> run gparted
[12:27] <tomodachi> and use the gui there to resize  the boot partition
[12:28] <mechmaster> ok , but the cd is the same virson as the one installed, is there special option to boot from cd, (cause it doesn't right now)
[12:28] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:29] <unholymachine> hi
[12:30] <mechmaster> thanks  tomodachi
[12:31] <tomodachi> mechmaster: np good luck
[12:53] <gulzar> Hi. Archlinux allows us to download the 'update' 'upgrade' using wget, just that we have to put correct files at correct place and use pacman to get the list of new softs and upgrade from the downloaded ones. Is there any way I can get apt-get 'update' and 'upgrade' with wget,  Yes finally apt will do everything, but downloading .
[13:19] <limali> helo
[13:19] <limali> I have a doubt
[13:19] <limali> how do I check the command --version without that
[13:19] <limali> using apt rather
[13:20] <limali> is anyone here
[13:20] <Pici> limali: can you rephrase your question?
[13:21] <limali> check the version of a pkg
[13:21] <Pici> limali: apt-cache show packagename   or apt-cache policy packagename
[13:21] <limali> without pkg --version way , but another way
[13:21] <limali> thx
[13:21] <limali> Size: 6863206 what are the units?
[13:22] <Pici> limali: bytes
[13:22] <limali> too bad documentation of it
[14:33] <bischoop> Hi
[14:33] <vimar> Hi
[14:52] <termitor> hello
[14:52] <termitor> someone , who have install and use qtcreator qt5.7 , 17.04 , succefully ?
[14:55] <bischoop> Hi termitor
[14:59] <synthetiq> if i wanted to see which process is making DNS queries every minute on ubuntu server 16.04, how would i do this?  i can see the requests in wireshark/pcap, i just want to know which process is doing it
[14:59] <synthetiq> it's not showing in /var/log/syslog
[15:13] <bischoop> bye
[15:15] <vimar> cu
[15:16] <Fyr> guys, is there the latest Transmission for Xenial?
[15:17] <oerheks> Fyr, no, the latest 2.9.2 is in Yakkety + Zesty
[15:18] <oerheks> xenial is LTS, so you will find stable packages + security updates only
[15:18] <Fyr> oerheks, why do the maintainers not port it?
[15:18] <oerheks> https://launchpad.net/transmission
[15:18] <Fyr> the latest versions are stable and very secure.
[15:19] <oerheks> Fyr, sure, but when xenial was released, 2.9.2 was just released and had no time enough to test, and to make it in the packages
[15:19] <Fyr> ='(
[15:20] <oerheks> *if* you need the latest , don't go for LTS then
[15:20] <oerheks> but you are safe, security fixes will be given
[15:20] <oerheks> just not the latest features
[15:21] <elanozturk> hi
[15:21] <Fyr> Xenial's is nt really secure.
[15:21] <Fyr> Transmission confuses names of torrents sometimes.
[15:21] <Fyr> it's a bug of 2.84.
[15:22] <tgm4883> that's a security issue?
[15:22] <Fyr> could be
[15:22] <tgm4883> Fyr: how? Do you have a CVE?
[15:22]  * oerheks wonders where those nasty torrents come from then
[15:22] <Fyr> no
[15:22] <tgm4883> !info transmission
[15:23] <tgm4883> Fyr: a bug yes, not sure how it could be a security issue though. In any case, do you have a bug report?
[15:24] <Fyr> tgm4883, I read a few of them.
[15:24] <Fyr> they are fixed in newer version.
[15:25] <tgm4883> Fyr: Is that the name of the launchpad bug report or the ID?
[15:25] <Fyr> ooops
[15:25] <Fyr> tgm4883, are you trying to make me Google out them?
[15:25] <Fyr> the bug reports were sent.
[15:25] <leftyfb> Fyr: that doesn't make "Xenial" insecure. Zero of my dozens of installations of Ubuntu 16.04 have transmission installed.
[15:25] <tgm4883> Fyr: no, I'm trying to find the bug report that you're talking about
[15:25] <Fyr> the bug were fixed in newer versions.
[15:25] <leftyfb> Fyr: why are you here?
[15:26] <tgm4883> FWIW, I don't see a launchpad bug report named "I read a few of them."
[15:26] <Fyr> leftyfb, to find if somebody ported the latest transimission onto 16.04.
[15:26] <Fyr> possibly, some people have done that.
[15:26] <leftyfb> Fyr: you have yet to ask for that
[15:26] <tgm4883> Fyr: and how would we know we need to do that?
[15:26] <Fyr> downloaded the src and compiled them.
[15:27] <leftyfb> Fyr: https://launchpad.net/~transmissionbt/+archive/ubuntu/ppa?field.series_filter=xenial
[15:27] <oerheks> Fyr, wait, you better give an example about that nome thing, i see no fix in 2.8.4 > 2.9.2 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/zesty/+source/transmission/+changelog
[15:28] <oerheks> c/nome/name
[15:28] <tgm4883> Fyr: still unclear on how we're supposed to know there's an issue with Transmission that needs a backport
[15:28] <oerheks> this is just wild-talk, without proof
[15:29] <Fyr> xD
[15:29] <Fyr> guys, are you trying to make me Google the bugs again and to get me to show them?
[15:29] <Fyr> I can do this.
[15:29] <tgm4883> Fyr: yes
[15:29] <Fyr> for what?
[15:29] <Fyr> I\ll show you them.
[15:29] <Fyr> then what?
[15:30] <leftyfb> to get the fix backported
[15:30] <tgm4883> Fyr: show me the launchpad bug report....
[15:30] <Fyr> will you give me the link onto ported Transmission?
[15:30] <leftyfb> Fyr: https://launchpad.net/~transmissionbt/+archive/ubuntu/ppa?field.series_filter=xenial
[15:30] <tgm4883> !backport | Fyr
[15:31] <tgm4883> Fyr: I mean, it will take a bit of time to do the backport. I think it's generally a week maybe?
[15:32] <en1gma> i want to put ubuntu 16.04.2 on a usb stick and run it live. is there a guide that shows how to make a persisitent partition on a micro sd_card in a laptop card reader slot?
[15:32] <oerheks> maybe it is fixed already, 2.92-1ubuntu1~16.104.2 ( mind the 1ubuntu1 )
[15:32] <oerheks> !persistence
[15:32] <nacc> Fyr: but also don't confuse backports with SRU
[15:32] <en1gma> i dont want it on usb stick
[15:33] <en1gma> i want it on the sd_card in the laptop
[15:33] <leftyfb> "<en1gma> i want to put ubuntu 16.04.2 on a usb stick and run it live"
[15:33] <tgm4883> lol
[15:33] <nacc> leftyfb: it's the second sentence
[15:33] <nacc> leftyfb: ubuntu on usb but storage on sd card
[15:33] <en1gma> yea he sees it
[15:33] <nacc> en1gma: not entirely obvious as written :)
[15:33] <en1gma> true
[15:34] <en1gma> my grammar is bad
[15:34] <en1gma> :)
[15:34] <oerheks> en1gma, if your laptop can boot from sd card, procedure is the same
[15:34] <tgm4883> oerheks: I believe he's asking how to have a live bootable USB stick with persistant storage on the SD card
[15:34] <akkonrad> after last update I have issue with RAM, I have 16GB but my laptop is not using only 8 gb (4 ram + 4 cache), is there anythign I can do about it?
[15:34] <nacc> yeah, i think if the installer can see it, then you can install it, it should use it by UUID anyways, and then as long as it's there by UUID, it should be usable?
[15:34] <en1gma> cool. not sure if it can boot there. will try
[15:35] <en1gma> ahhh
[15:35] <en1gma> thanks
[15:35] <nacc> en1gma: that's just my guess -- sd cards aren't 'special' in this regard, afaict
[15:42] <fossvbn> I heard 17.04 LTS lined up in next release
[15:42] <scottjl> the next lts would be 18.04
[15:42] <genii> 18.04 is the nest LTS, yes
[15:43] <fossvbn> Ok
[15:43] <scottjl> lts are every 2 years.
[15:43] <genii> 14.04, 16.04, 18.04
[15:43] <fossvbn> Will there be any advantage for array of networking hardware support
[15:44] <fossvbn> Laptops and workstations
[15:46] <genii> fossvbn: Networking hardware support is more the work of kernel developers upstream from Ubuntu and Debian
[15:49] <Jerbot> Do you guys know what live-reload is?
[15:50] <Jerbot> Are there extra large inverted mouse cursors for Ubuntu?
[16:04] <__Yiota> we just migrated to 16.04 from 14.04, can someone look at my init.d script and tell me if there are any incompatibilities with system.d?
[16:05] <__Yiota> https://bpaste.net/show/8c659f81980c
[16:13] <Jerbot> I have ubuntu installed on the same hdd as windows is installed on.  I want to start my ubuntu installation while within windows.  is that possible?
[16:13] <tgm4883> Jerbot: no
[16:14] <Jerbot> can you make it so? :D
[16:14] <tgm4883>  I think there's some stuff you can do with a hypervisor and pointing it at the partition
[16:15] <tgm4883> Jerbot: But it's not something I've done and I doubt many people have, so you're probably on your own for that one
[16:16] <chris_99> Hey does anyone know anything about ieee 1394 cards per chance the card i'm looking at uses the VIA VT 6315 which i see some mentioned under some kernel info, but i'd like to be sure (https://www.amazon.co.uk/PCIE-FIREWIRE-IEEE1394a-CONTROLLER-CARD-x/dp/B005VQIHFS is the card)
[16:16] <Jerbot> https://superuser.com/questions/155533/how-can-i-run-my-ubuntu-partition-in-windows-vmware
[16:16] <bencc> this ppa tries to load jessie instead of xenial https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ubuntu/libreoffice-5-3
[16:18] <bencc> my mitsake
[16:18] <tgm4883> Jerbot: great, there you go
[16:18] <nacc> bencc: ppas don't load anything -- your system queries a ppa for a specific release as specified in /etc/apt/sources.list (or /etc/apt/sources.list.d/<ppa>)
[16:20] <Jerbot> How do you know how to undo the things you do in terminal?  It seems like it's harder to destroy changes than to commit them.  I always wish there was like a simple 'rollback' feature to like remove 50 minutes of tom-foolery
[16:22] <tgm4883> Jerbot: generally we try not to do any tomfoolery
[16:23] <Jerbot> I just put these terminal commands in: How do you know how to undo the things you do in terminal?  It seems like it's harder to destroy changes than to commit them.  I always wish there was like a simple 'rollback' feature to like remove 50 minutes of tom-foolery
[16:23] <Jerbot> oh sorry
[16:23] <Jerbot> https://github.com/geeeeeeeeek/electronic-wechat
[16:23] <Jerbot> And basically they resulted in hundreds of lines of errors
[16:23] <Jerbot> Obviously the instlalation didn't work
[16:23] <seizo> yo, i've just installed ubuntu server 17.04, only to find that i have no internet access (but do have lan access). i've confirmed my dns settings in resolv.conf, disabled ipv6, rebooted/brought the interface up/down. where should i look next?
[16:24] <leftyfb> You know what's the worst? Years ago a place I worked had a server that had everything NAS on the network mounted and basically everyone logged into it as themselves and then su'd to root. Years and years of engineers doing this. I accidentally ran: . .bash_history
[16:25] <leftyfb> that was a bad day
[16:25] <tgm4883> Jerbot: start with the first error and fix it then try installing again?
[16:26] <Jerbot> It's not even worth trying to install it.  Why should it be a huge hassle.  I just have to wait until they release wechat.
[16:27] <Jerbot> I started this web project, and I have 8 developers, now.  But I barely ever use Ubuntu, and I feel terrible because I never commit any fixes or anything
[16:27] <Jerbot> i just do all the sales and stuff
[16:30] <nacc> Jerbot: use a VM or throwaway system for 'tomfoolery'
[16:30] <nacc> Jerbot: take snapshots, etc.
[16:32] <Jerbot> anyone know why my F11 and F12 keys don't work in ubuntu?
[16:32] <Jerbot> even if I press them to add a custom accelerator in ubuntu options, they don't even register
[16:32] <Jerbot> in ubuntu keyboard options: custom hotkey
[16:39] <mircx1> Hello i have problem in ubuntu i download wine and mirc there and my question this possible see hebrew ?
[16:40] <Jerbot> if i take a snapshot before I try to install something, then can I roll back to before I tried?
[16:40] <dchapman> Jerbot: what are you installing
[16:40] <Jerbot> because I don't even think I'm trying to do something insanely complicated.  I'm just trying to get live reload and a good text editor for h5 and css3
[16:41] <BluesKaj> mircx1, why mirc , whynot hexchat or quassel or konverstaion , all irc clients for linux
[16:41] <dchapman> or irssi
[16:42] <glitsj16> Jerbot: have you confirmed in a terminal with xev that those keys are dead? a handy alias like xevk="xev | grep -A2 --line-buffered '^KeyRelease' | sed -n '/keycode /s/^.*keycode \([0-9]*\).* (.*, \(.*\)).*$/\1 \2/p'" in your ~/.bashrc or ~/.bash_aliases might make xev output easier to read
[16:42] <BluesKaj> dchapman, doubt he'd know enough yet if he wants mirc
[16:43] <mircx1> the best mirc
[16:43] <mircx1> i dont like hexchat
[16:44] <nacc> Jerbot: yes, that's the definition of a snapshot (although you didn't give context, I'm assuming you mean VM or fs snapshot)
[16:45] <BluesKaj> mircx1, if you want to run linux , it's best to learn how to use linux apps.
[16:45] <BluesKaj> anyway, back to lawn mowing for me
[16:46] <Southern_Gentlem> BluesKaj, while your at get mine please
[16:46] <oerheks> wine application help in #winehq, lawnmowerhelp in #ubuntu :-D
[16:47] <Jerbot> no.  i don't know how to verify that
[16:47] <Jerbot> glitsj16: I've never heard of that app
[16:47] <nacc> !who | Jerbot
[16:47] <Jerbot> But I think the keys aren't truly dead.
[16:48] <mircx1> i run ubuntu
[16:48] <mircx1> and now this ok i see hebrew from there but i cant now write
[16:48] <Jerbot> glitsj16: Basically, the f12 key works when I hold FN (it works like F12).  But it doesn't work with the FN lock on (which is on by default).
[16:49] <daveomcd> how can i see which version of the webkit engine i have installed on ubuntu through terminal?
[16:49] <glitsj16> Jerbot: well, you open a terminal, paste in .. xev | grep -A2 --line-buffered '^KeyRelease' | sed -n '/keycode /s/^.*keycode \([0-9]*\).* (.*, \(.*\)).*$/\1 \2/p' .. and press the keys, you should see what is registered to confirem they're dead or what's being registered
[16:53] <oaulakh> does anyone know best cross platform encryption in ubuntu
[16:53] <oaulakh> for files
[16:54] <Jerbot> when i press f11 and f12, nothing appears on the terimnal
[16:55] <Jerbot> but if i hold FN, they do show up
[16:59] <db`> Hi people
[16:59] <Jerbot> they're supposed to be brightness controls by default, and I was doing custom keyboard shortcuts to define them as brightness controls
[17:00] <Jerbot> so i ended up using the + and - on  my numpad to do that.  but i use those a lot also so it's not ideal at all
[17:00] <db`> I want to make a remote backup of few files. I am thinking of rsync. Both servers use ubuntu. Now, in case the remote server has more files, will rsync delete them?
[17:01] <db`> My intention: I will keep syncing new files to remote backup, but the old files in there must not get deleted, even if they are deleted on local server
[17:01] <tgm4883> db`: man rsync. There's an option to delete file on the destination
[17:02] <db`> I don't want to delete anything tgm4883
[17:02] <tgm4883> db`: .... and as such, if you don't use that option it won't delete thing...
[17:03] <blkadder> db By default rsync just copies
[17:03] <tgm4883> but it's worth knowing what that option is, so when you're copying rsync commands off the internet you don't accidently use it
[17:03] <db`> I am running a mysql backup in rotation. Files older than 7 days will get auto-deleted on my localhost.
[17:05] <db`> I want rsync to keep copying the new files from locqahost to remote server. The remote would obviously have older files which are not there anymore in localhost. So I just want rsync to copy the new ones, and ignore the old ones on remote server. blkadder: just to confirm
[17:06] <blkadder> db`, That's how rsync works by default.
[17:06] <db`> Thanks.
[17:06] <tgm4883> db`: then don't use --delete   https://linux.die.net/man/1/rsync
[17:06] <db`> tgm4883: Yeah, I will make sure to use proper options.
[17:06] <db`> Thanks.
[17:07] <tgm4883> db`: --dry-run will also help you
[17:07] <db`> what does that do9?
[17:07] <blkadder> Tells you what it will do without doing it.
[17:07] <db`> Ah!
[17:07] <db`> great.
[17:27] <sruli> i havn't been getting any update for chrome since Version 58.0.3029.110, any one knows why that might be?
[17:29] <nacc> sruli: chrome is a google package
[17:29] <nacc> sruli: you should ask them?
[17:31] <sruli>  nacc: it always used to update, it stopped just wondering if anyone else experienced this and if there is a fix
[17:32] <oerheks> current is Version 59.0.3071.86 (Official Build) (64-bit), so show us the output of apt update apt full-upgrade
[17:33] <soee> hi, i have website on 2 different IPs, how can i copy from site A/foo/bar dir to site B/foo/bar  files only those files that do not exists in B/foo/bar subfolders ?
[17:33] <oerheks> soee, rsync can do that fine
[17:34] <oerheks> there is also a gui for it, grsync
[17:34] <soee> oerheks: probably but i'm not sure how to do that and im operating only in cli
[17:34] <sruli> oerheks: the output of update and full-upgrade http://paste.ubuntu.com/24850375/
[17:35] <oerheks> soee, take a read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/rsync
[17:38] <oaulakh> why my drives not mounting automatically ??? http://imgur.com/a/CCIaC
[17:38] <oerheks> sruli, odd, you should have the latest 59
[17:38] <jink> soee: --dry-run --ignore-existing --recursive --perms   should get you started, I guess?
[17:40] <sruli> oerheks: just checked in terminal and there i have 59, but in gui it shows 58, will figure it out somehow
[17:40] <sruli> thanks
[17:53] <ldiamond> Anyone here able to vote on reviews on askubuntu.com? Please accept this review https://askubuntu.com/review/suggested-edits/721649
[17:53] <ldiamond> Suggesting to add a user to the docker group is very dangerous.
[17:54] <seizo> figured out that question i had earlier, in ubuntu 17.04 i guess the devs decided to enable DNSSEC by default, turning that off in systemd fixed my internet connection issue.
[17:54] <nacc> ldiamond: there are two comments already, rejecting it
[17:54] <nacc> ldiamond: *two votes, that is
[17:55] <g105b> Please can someone help me? I'm trying to replace all references of "http://www.example.com" with "https://www.example.com" in any files under "/var/www/example.com". Can anyone explain why this command isn't doing it? find . -type f -exec sed -i 's/http:\/\/www\.example\.com/https:\/\/www.example.com/' {} \;
[17:55] <lotuspsychje> seizo: tnx for the feedback, think i had this bug in 17.10 also
[17:56] <lotuspsychje> seizo: how did you fix in systemd exactly?
[17:56] <soee> ok got my files rsynced, thans for help :)
[17:58] <seizo> lotuspsychj: in /etc/systemd/resolved.conf, add DNSSEC=off somewhere under [Resolve], then restart systemd-resolved
[17:59] <nacc> seizo, lotuspsychje: hrm, iirc, DNSSEC is disabled by default
[17:59] <nacc> maybe that was only 17.04, let me check
[17:59] <banyantree> Gentlemen, i need your advice/help: reboot doesn't work when used pm-hibernate
[17:59] <seizo> nacc: it was 17.04 server edition
[17:59] <lotuspsychje> seizo: allright tnx, just curious wich .iso did you try
[18:00] <banyantree> it is working now after booting several times
[18:00] <nacc> seizo: yes, 17.04 has dnssec disabled by default
[18:00] <nacc> seizo: and so does 17.10, fwiw
[18:00] <nacc> seizo: although it might depend on when you got the installer image
[18:00] <nacc> seizo: if it was a problem in the installer itself, i mean
[18:00] <lotuspsychje> nacc: im trying todays daily, ill check soon if its working or not
[18:01] <nacc> lotuspsychje: cool -- the fix was in 17.04's systemd 232-21ubuntu3 and 17.10's 233-6 (from debian)
[18:01] <seizo> lotuspsychj: the iso was the ubuntu-17.04-server-amd64.iso
[18:01] <lotuspsychje> seizo: did you update?
[18:01] <lotuspsychje> !info systemd artful
[18:02] <lotuspsychje> tnx nacc :p
[18:02] <seizo> nacc: hmm. im sure i didnt enable it or anything
[18:02] <seizo> lotuspsychj: i just updated, after gaining internet access but not before the install no
[18:02] <nacc> seizo: it was enabled in the release iso (i'm not sure they respun the iso), you'd need to use a daily (i think) or immediately update and it should be fixed (although updating may be tricky if you have the release version and need to disable dnssec to use the network..)
[18:04] <lotuspsychje> seizo: you installing for testing purpose or production?
[18:05] <seizo> nacc: yeah, disabling dnssec did the trick for me
[18:07] <nacc> seizo: right, and then immediate update should bring you the version with it disabled by default :)
[18:07] <seizo> lotuspsychj: i did it for testing purposes, been awhile since i messed with ubuntu
[18:07] <seizo> nacc, lotuspsychj: perfect. thanks for the help guys
[18:07] <lotuspsychje> cheers
[18:08] <db`> Hi guys
[18:09] <lotuspsychje> db`: what can we do for you?
[18:09] <db`> I got dmarc, spf & dkim set for my domain. All work fine.
[18:09] <db`> But when I send an email from a subdomain, DMARC fails.
[18:09] <db`> SPF still passes, coz I added the IP to spf record.
[18:09] <Guy1524_> hey guys, I am performing a copy from one drive to another, and the transfer started at 50 MB/s and has slowed down since and is now at 16.9 MB/s
[18:09] <db`> How do I tell DMARC to allow my specific subdmoain?
[18:10] <Guy1524_> why is it so much slower now
[18:10] <db`> lotuspsychje
[18:11] <Guy1524_> i am copying a folder btw
[18:12] <Guy1524_> 473K files total
[18:12] <Guy1524_> would it be possible to stop this nautilus transfer and resume it w/ rsync?
[18:13] <nicomachus> No. rsync can only resume rsync transfers.
[18:13] <nicomachus> But you could just run rsync and it would check which files already exist in the target and skip those.
[18:13] <nicomachus> I *think* -a does that. I always use -avz...
[18:14] <Guy1524_> nicomachus: so it wouldn't recopy and files that have been transfered already?
[18:14] <Guy1524_> also, would this work: https://askubuntu.com/a/530890
[18:14] <nicomachus> Guy1524_: it shouldn't.
[18:15] <nicomachus> Guy1524_: just check rsync's manpage for usage. The options on that AskUbuntu page are for that specific request.
[18:16] <Guy1524_> nicomachus: do you have any idea why it is slowing down so much?
[18:16] <nicomachus> Guy1524_: depends on filetypes, type of disk, all kinds of stuff.
[18:17] <Jordan_U> Guy1524_: Is one of the drives much slower than the other? Was the file being copied recently read? Cache can make transfers go faster initially.
[18:17] <Guy1524_> how would filetypes have anything to do w/ it?  I am transfering a folder from one ext4 partition to another
[18:17] <Guy1524_> Jordan_U: they are both hard drives and at the beginning it was copying at around 50 MB/s
[18:17] <Guy1524_> now it is at 15.2 MB/s
[18:17] <Guy1524_> and it keeps slowing down
[18:18] <Jordan_U> Guy1524_: Were the files being copied recently read (and thus already cached in RAM)?
[18:18] <Guy1524_> Jordan_U: no
[18:19] <tgm4883> Bunch of small files with some large files mixed in?
[18:19] <Guy1524_> tgm4883: yes
[18:19] <Guy1524_> according to this response, it is a problem with the linux kernel: https://superuser.com/a/542734
[18:20] <db`> Anyone pls?
[18:20] <Guy1524_> 30 minutes ago it said 50 minutes left
[18:20] <Guy1524_> now it says 1 hour 8 minutes
[18:21] <tgm4883> Guy1524_: yea, that link is wrong
[18:21] <nicomachus> Guy1524_: "xxx minutes left" is never going to be accurate. It's just an approximation. It's impossible to give an accurate timeline.
[18:21] <Guy1524_> what consistently happens though is that the transfer speed goes down at a linear rate
[18:22] <Guy1524_> im already at 14.3MB/s
[18:22] <Guy1524_> and according to nicomachus i can't pause and resume the download via rsync
[18:23] <nicomachus> that's not what I said... read again.
[18:23] <Guy1524_> i am doing the transfer booted off a live usb if that is relevant
 No. rsync can only resume rsync transfers.
[18:23] <Jordan_U> Guy1524_: I do not see any reason to believe that rsync would be any faster.
[18:24] <Guy1524_> Jordan_U: rsync itself probably wouldn't be faster, but wouldn't restarting the download be faster
[18:24] <nacc> Guy1524_: so you're transferring between two USB drives while booted off a USB drive?
[18:24] <Guy1524_> no, between 2 SATA hdds
[18:24] <nacc> Guy1524_: oh ok
[18:25] <Guy1524_> while booted off a usb
[18:25] <Guy1524_> why can't i pause the transfer in nautilus?
[18:25] <nacc> Guy1524_: you can, but nautilus isn't using rsync
[18:25] <nacc> Guy1524_: or, do you mean, nautilus doesn't give you that option?
[18:25] <Jordan_U> Guy1524_: Are you writing to the USB drive at all (for operations other than the copy)? Do you have persistance enabled on the LiveUSB?
[18:26] <Guy1524_> nacc: ya it doesn't give me that option
[18:26] <Guy1524_> Jordan_U: no and no
[18:26] <Jordan_U> Guy1524_: I don't expect that restarting the copy would get you higher speeds.
[18:27] <Guy1524_> nacc: http://i.imgur.com/qHayDft.png
[18:28] <Guy1524_> Jordan_U: well is there any disadvantage to trying?
[18:28] <Guy1524_> can i be sure won't lose the progress I have made if I try canceling then rsync?
[18:28] <tgm4883> To restarting with rsync? I'd always do rsync for larger transfers
[18:29] <Guy1524_> tgm4883: yes but do you know if it possible to continue this already started transfer via rsync
[18:31] <tgm4883> Guy1524_: rsync will check what files already exist at the destination drive and not copy them again
[18:32] <tgm4883> Guy1524_: you can have it check if the files are the same in a few different ways, IIRC it just checks the timestamp of the files by default
[18:32] <Guy1524_> tgm4883: ok cool, will it check if the file is accurate via md5 or something
[18:32] <tgm4883> you can tell it to use the hash if you want
[18:33] <Jordan_U> Guy1524_: I can't think of any disadvantage, no. If you think that nautilus is copying a large file when you cancel it then it might be good to add --partial to the rsync arguments.
[18:34] <Guy1524_> so rsync --partial (source folder) (backup folder that already has stuff in it)?
[18:35] <Jordan_U> Guy1524_: If you want rsync to check that all of the files contents are identical between the two drives, then rsync will need to re-read all of the already copied bits from both drives, which will likely take just as long as starting from scratch. By default, rsync will just check timestamps and file sizes if I recall correctly.
[18:35] <sobersabre> hi, I have a strange libvte behaviour in strange width misbehaviour
[18:35] <sobersabre> I'm using bash-it and powerline
[18:35] <sobersabre> I'm using terminal called 'tilix'
[18:36] <Guy1524_> can i make it so it just checks file size
[18:36] <Guy1524_> and if the file size is smaller it will recopy
[18:36] <sobersabre> the character  ⓔ  is behaving weirdly
[18:36] <Jordan_U> Guy1524_: I believe that is the default.
[18:36] <sobersabre> actually it's all those chars that are not wide, but defined as wide.
[18:37] <Guy1524_> so I just do rsync (folder to copy) (parent of copied folder)
[18:37] <sobersabre> I didn't have this problem on 16.04
[18:37] <sobersabre> having it on 16.10
[18:37] <Guy1524_> or do I do rsync (folder to copy) name of folder to copy
[18:37] <sobersabre> I also have a fedora 25 desktop - no problem there.
[18:37] <sobersabre> same fonts, same powerline theme.
[18:38] <Jordan_U> sobersabre: Please try to narrow down the problem component. Does everything display properly in Gnome Terminal or urxvt ?
[18:39] <sobersabre> Jordan_U: Gnome Terminal behaves the same. I didn't try urxvt, but is it libvte based ?
[18:40] <Jordan_U> sobersabre: urxvt is not libvte based, no.
[18:41] <Dave_Elec> guys i have nautilus 3.18 and the icons are too big even with smallest setting. is there any fix?
[18:42] <Guy1524_> rsync is much much faster, thank you guys
[18:43] <sobersabre> Jordan_U: cool, I remember back in the days we used to control fonts using ~/.Xdefaults or something.. this is how it is done ?
[18:44] <Dave_Elec> guys i have nautilus 3.18 and the icons are too big even with smallest setting. is there any fix?
[19:22] <b8383> Test
[19:34] <db`> If I'm wanting to copy all files/folders inside a directory to remote server using rsync, do I need to use option -r ?
[19:34] <db`> I just see rsync -avz in tutorials.
[19:38] <creshiem> db`: -a implies -r
[19:38] <db`> o
[19:38] <db`> ok
[19:38] <db`> ty
[19:38] <SimonNL> -a, --archive               archive mode; equals -rlptgoD (no -H,-A,-X)
[19:39] <luccky> hello
[19:39] <luccky> my phone can't get connected to the ubuntu
[19:39] <luccky> what might be missing
[19:40] <YankDownUnder> luccky, Firstly, give more information. "My phone can't get connected to the ubuntu" is NOT very informative.
[19:40] <tomreyn> a cable, driver support
[19:41] <luccky> ok boss
[19:41] <luccky> that's philips cellphone xenium e103
[19:41] <luccky> linux ubuntu 17.04
[19:41] <Alagar> ood evening all, i am using squid for internet access, also using active directory authentication for squid proxy internet, skype and google hangout not working using squid, find out this issue because of active directory authentication, how to bypass  skype and google hangout from active directory authentication ? any one help please,
[19:42] <luccky> when i connect it through usb cable the phone reacts but pc does not
[19:43] <tomreyn> luccky: reacts how? also, what are you trying to achieve by connecting the two?
[19:44] <the_drow> Hi. I'm trying to figure out why my self signed certificate doesn't validate on AWS but does validate on my machine
[19:44] <b8383> which ubuntu to use on old winxp box?
[19:44] <the_drow> I've added it to /usr/local/share/ca-certificates and hit "sudo update-ca-certificates" which indicated that the certificate was added but I still get validation errors
[19:45] <justPie> Can anyone recommend a server monitoring tool? I need something that could tell me monthly/weekly reports of both server stats and bandwidth?
[19:45] <the_drow> On my machine everything works just fine so there must be a step I'm missing
[19:45] <luccky> phone says the micro solid disk is in use which means it's used by the PC (i am certain about it) but when i go to the PC settings, it doesn't display the solid disk there. I am trying to drop some mp3 files into my phone solid disk
[19:45] <tomreyn> b8383: try xubuntu, ubuntu mate or lubuntu
[19:45] <luccky> p.s. it works with windows
[19:47] <the_drow> Can anyone walk me through the process of adding a ca certificate to Ubuntu? Maybe I'm doing something wrong
[19:47] <kenrin> adding one?  I just use genkey hostname
[19:48] <b8383> tomreyn: xubuntu causes display errors (no error messages, just colorful parts of the screen that make no sense)
[19:48] <b8383> will try mate
[19:48] <tomreyn> the_drow: what you discussed above seems like the correct way to me. how did you test?
[19:49] <b8383> any chance centos will work on that ol'ass box? will try that as well if mate doesn't run well
[19:49] <the_drow> I tried httpie and osquery (which is why I need a self signed certificate in the first place, it reports with HTTPS to the server)
[19:49] <the_drow> tomreyn, Should I try curl too?
[19:50] <tomreyn> b8383: more likely that's a driver issue then. consider giving restricted / proprietary drivers a try. error los are in /var/log/Xorg.*.log and ~/.xsession-errors.
[19:51] <tomreyn> the_drow: i don't know httpie and osquery, i do know curl somewhat
[19:51] <the_drow> I can never remember how to use it
[19:51] <the_drow> How do I do a post request
[19:51] <tomreyn> --data
[19:52] <the_drow> Ok so curl works
[19:52] <the_drow> That's an improvement
[19:52] <tomreyn> or --data-urlencode (if it is not ecoded, yet)
[19:52] <the_drow> osquery uses netlib which is a CPP library for network stuff including http
[19:53] <tomreyn> the_drow: maybe you'll need to point those to the CA bundle
[19:53] <the_drow> I can see why httpie won't work since the certificates are bundled with a python package
[19:53] <the_drow> that's the thing. I didn't need to do so on my machine
[19:54] <tomreyn> maybe 'your machine' and 'AWS' are different somehow? different ubuntu version, not actually ubuntu etc.
[19:55] <the_drow> Different ubuntu version for sure. AWS is older.
[19:55] <the_drow> 16.04. Mine is 17.04
[19:56]  * Some_Person shakes fist at whoever designed the search feature in gedit
[19:56] <tomreyn> AWS AMI's are usually modified somehow, too, and i'm not sure that 'somehow' is documented.
[19:57] <the_drow> Only kernel changes (or close to kernel such as aufs support) are documented
[19:58] <the_drow> Thanks for the idea to use curl (I know I asked but talking to you brought it up)
[19:58] <the_drow> Now I know I'm not crazy
[20:01] <tomreyn> glad i could help ;)
[20:02] <the_drow> right curl from the other machine curl: (51) SSL: certificate subject name (localhost) does not match target host name 'ec2-some-ip.compute-1.amazonaws.com'
[20:02] <the_drow> I need to regenerate everything on that server
[20:03] <the_drow> now openssl is another command line tool i really hate
[20:03] <tomreyn> justPie: cacti, zabbix for servers, smokeping for the network
[20:03] <the_drow> I think the topmost is tar :P
[20:04] <tomreyn> the_drow: you could give gnutls a try.
[20:05] <Some_Person> I'm looking for a basic light GUI-based text editor, something kind of like gedit, but with a search feature that isn't so damn weird. Any suggestions?
[20:05] <the_drow> notepad++?
[20:05] <the_drow> does it work on linux?
[20:05] <Some_Person> notepad++ is windows-only
[20:05] <the_drow> gvim?
[20:05] <justPie> Some_Person: Atom is the best editor i've used
[20:06] <the_drow> too big
[20:06] <tomreyn> whats weird about gedit's search?
[20:06] <oerheks> tomreyn +1
[20:07] <Some_Person> tomreyn: Hit ctrl-f, and type in some search criteria. Great, it goes to the first result. Then hit enter... and it closes the search box. Or maybe you want to close the search box, so you press Esc... which does that, but goes back to where you started in the file
[20:07] <Some_Person> It works so differently from every other program I use that I get annoyed every. single. time
[20:08] <Some_Person> And yes, there is a ticket in their bug tracker about it. Naturally, it's a WONTFIX, because apparently the developers like their weird-ass search behavior
[20:08] <oerheks> it is not a bug, just learn how to use it.
[20:09] <oerheks> i think other editors handle seaching the same way
[20:10] <Some_Person> I consider it a bug because I can't even name another program whose search works similarly
[20:10] <tomreyn> Some_Person: personally i'm find with how it works, the keyboard shortcuts it uses aren't unusual in the unix world. maybe if you're used to other OS's and their defaults it is unusual to you.
[20:11] <Some_Person> And of course it isn't configurable.
[20:11] <tomreyn> well if you want a real editor, use vim or emacs
[20:11] <Some_Person> tomreyn: Even on Linux, every other program I use works like this: pressing enter goes to the next result, and pressing Esc closes the search box
[20:12] <justPie> Some_Person: https://atom.io/
[20:12] <Some_Person> Instead, gedit makes these functions down arrow and enter respectively
[20:13] <b8383> tomreyn: don't even start about vim and emacs or i'll throw in nano or even mcedit :P
[20:13] <Some_Person> There is indeed no real standard for command-line-based text editors, I'll grant that. But GUI stuff seems to have this de facto standard
[20:14] <Some_Person> so maybe I should reword what I said: Every GUI-based program I use with a search feature works like I would expect... except gedit
[20:15] <tomreyn> so use one of the other editors which were suggested.
[20:15] <db`> is creating swap memory discouraged on SSD servers?
[20:15] <Some_Person> tomreyn: That's why I asked for suggestions :)
[20:15] <Some_Person> I will try some of them
[20:16] <mircx1> someone in here told to me download hexchat but i not see heberw from there utf8
[20:17] <Some_Person> thanks
[20:17] <tomreyn> db`: not generally, no. unless these are early generation of cheap SSDs with very limited writes i guess. you could lower swappiness a bit, though.
[20:17] <db`> ok
[20:18] <tomreyn> db`: and of course pick the right hardware for your workload so you don'T swap, since you generally never want to do that.
[20:18] <db`> I'm actually running on OVH SSD VPS
[20:20] <db`> tomreyn:I'm quite a noob at this, can you tell me what swapiness amount should I use?
[20:20] <db`> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-add-swap-space-on-ubuntu-16-04
[20:20] <db`> They say do not use swap on SSD servers
[20:21] <lunagirl> yay, xenial on an imac g3
[20:26] <blkadder> db`, If you are putting it on a SSD, set your swapiness very low.
[20:26] <db`> ok
[20:26] <db`> 10 will do?
[20:26] <db`> or 5?
[20:27] <blkadder> You don't want to go into SSD swap unless necessary
[20:27] <blkadder> Is this a VPS though?
[20:27] <blkadder> I think you said?
[20:28] <db`> yes
[20:28] <db`> a cloud VPS
[20:28] <db`> 2GB KVM
[20:28] <blkadder> Then you don't care about their hardware. :-)
[20:28] <db`> lawl.
[20:28] <geirha> crank it all the way up
[20:28] <db`> No, I don't want to risk their hardware.
[20:28] <blkadder> But there's really no reason to be putting stuff into swap vs. main mem unless you have to.
[20:28] <db`> They might even disable my account
[20:29] <db`> idk if OVH does that
[20:29] <blkadder> Ideally you want to avoid swap at all.
[20:29] <blkadder> It's just insurance.
[20:29] <db`> hmm okay
[20:29] <db`> should i set swappiness at 5?
[20:29] <akik> db`: you can set it to 0 if you want
[20:30] <tomreyn> 0 not a good idea
[20:30] <tomreyn> 1 can be fine
[20:30] <db`> that low?
[20:30] <tomreyn> you dont want to swap, you just want to survive OOM
[20:30] <db`> or should I just remove the swap? (lol)
[20:31] <db`> OOM?
[20:31] <tomreyn> out of memory situations
[20:31] <blkadder> That's the insurance part.
[20:31] <db`> right.
[20:31] <db`> so 1 is okay?
[20:31] <blkadder> You have two options: OOM killer which can be deadly or have swap as a last resort.
[20:32] <db`> I'd prefer swap/.
[20:32] <blkadder> I haven't had good experiences with OOM killers.
[20:32] <db`> And I though of swapiness 5..
[20:32] <tomreyn> this seems like a pretty good summary to me:  https://wiki.debian.org/SSDOptimization
[20:32] <tomreyn> VM changes the picture a bit, though, especially if there's autoscaling
[20:33] <tomreyn> but IIRC OVH doesn't do that
[20:33] <db`> I'd better remove swap
[20:36] <akik> db`: with swappiness=0, kernel will only swap to avoid oom
[20:37] <db`> Setting vm.swappiness=0 is more aggressive but may cause out-of-memory events.
[20:37] <db`> from that link tomreyn sent.
[20:37] <akik> agressive in not swapping
[20:37] <db`> I guess so.
[20:38] <db`> But I removed the swap
[20:59] <Exterminador> hello guys. i've acquired an "unmanaged vps" and ive having this errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24851654/
[21:00] <Exterminador> the support said i shpuld reinstall the system.. what do you think guys? will it  solve the iusse?
[21:00] <Exterminador> s/shpuld/should
[21:04] <akik> Exterminador: i'm not sure of your issue but if the vps is not updated, it's better to reinstall it
[21:04] <akik> Exterminador: especially if you don't know what is installed on it
[21:05] <Exterminador> akik: I've installed Ubuntu 16 via their webpanel
[21:05] <Exterminador> and it's having this almost from the very beginning
[21:06] <akik> Exterminador: are you following some guide on snmp?
[21:06] <akik> Exterminador: you can verify installed packages with "dpkg -V package"
[21:07] <Exterminador> snmp? i didnt installed that by myslef
[21:07] <Exterminador> *myself
[21:08] <blkadder> Probably part of their broken install then.
[21:08] <akik> Exterminador: your paste is all snmp
[21:08] <Exterminador> can i remove that?
[21:08] <akik> Exterminador: what is your real issue? you ran some snmp command that output that what you pasted?
[21:09] <blkadder> If this is a default install from the VPS provider, I'd open a ticket with them.
[21:09] <blkadder> And tell them their crap is broken.
[21:09] <Exterminador> akik: nope.. i receive that from Cron Daemon
[21:09] <Exterminador> on root user mail
[21:09] <akik> Exterminador: look into your crontabs to see what script is doing that
[21:10] <akik> Exterminador: /var/spool/cron/crontabs/
[21:10] <akik> Exterminador: it could also be in /etc/cron*
[21:12] <Exterminador> guess this one
[21:12] <Exterminador> 09,39 *     * * *     root   [ -x /usr/lib/php/sessionclean ] && /usr/lib/php/sessionclean
[21:13] <Exterminador> on /etc/cron.d/php
[21:13] <Exterminador> Subject: Cron <root@tech>   [ -x /usr/lib/php/sessionclean ] && /usr/lib/php/sessionclean
[21:14] <cwre> Trying to install auditd in a LXD container... Service is failing out. Let me get a log.
[21:14] <akik> Exterminador: can you paste that script?
[21:14] <akik> Exterminador: on paste.ubuntu.com
[21:15] <Exterminador> akik: right away
[21:17] <Exterminador> akik: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24851761/
[21:17] <Exterminador> here it is
[21:18] <akik> Exterminador: how did you decide it's that one? doesn't reference snmp once
[21:19] <Exterminador> akik: thats the error from cron daemon
[21:19] <Exterminador> Subject: Cron <root@tech>   [ -x /usr/lib/php/sessionclean ] && /usr/lib/php/sessionclean
[21:20] <akik> Exterminador: if you run it you should get the same errors
[21:20] <Exterminador> i'll try
[21:21] <Exterminador> akik: exactly that one
[21:21] <akik> Exterminador: ok
[21:22] <Exterminador> ive done /usr/lib/php/sessionclean
[21:22] <Exterminador> and get spammed with those errors
[21:28] <Exterminador> akik: should i disable that cron entry?
[21:28] <akik> Exterminador: if it solves your problem, then sure
[21:30] <Exterminador> akik: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24851831/
[21:30] <Exterminador> if i do remove those 3
[21:31] <Exterminador> i think i wont get that error again, right?
[21:31] <akik> Exterminador: it doesn't explain why the e-mail is all about snmp errors
[21:31] <Exterminador> akik: i dont have no idea.. maybe some how php is calling some snmp thing?
[21:31] <Exterminador> on backgroud?
[21:31] <akik> Exterminador: you just need to remove the cron job
[21:32] <Exterminador> okay.. i'll check all cron
[21:32] <akik> Exterminador: you can verify those packages with "dpkg -V package"
[21:33] <akik> Exterminador: this one that you found causing it: /usr/lib/php/sessionclean
[21:33] <Exterminador> but i'll check if it's not being called from any elsewhere
[21:34] <akik> Exterminador: although if that script is installed by a package, it'll come back in an update
[21:35] <Exterminador> i'll keep an eye at the cronjob
[21:36] <Exterminador> akik: thanks a lot for the quick answers and help
[21:37] <akik> Exterminador: no problem
[21:56] <mutante>   /win 28
[22:07] <arooni> is there any tool in ubuntu that will display the output of any command line tool in the status bar, refreshed every x seconds?
[22:07] <arooni> http://www.webupd8.org/2014/05/ubuntu-appindicator-that-displays-bash.html  is one that i just found
[22:10] <kion> I installed tomcat7 on ubuntu server, and it apparently is not listening on ipv4, it listens on ipv6, how can I force it to listen on ipv4?
[22:10] <nacc> kion: do you have a valid ipv4 and ipv6 setup?
[22:10] <kion> ipv4
[22:11] <nacc> kion: i believe uyou tell tomcat to use ipv4 if ipv6 is present -- -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true
[22:11] <nacc> kion: so you have no ipv6 setup but tomcat is listening on ipv6?
[22:12] <kion> nacc, thanks so where do I tell that? "sudo service tomcat7 start -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true" ? or where?
[22:13] <nacc> kion: i believe in your tomcat.conf in catalina_opts (or java_opts, i'm not sure)
[22:14] <kion> nacc, yes, if I sudo netstat -tvnlp I get 0 :::8080   :::*  LISTEN 3082/java
[22:16] <nacc> kion: ah local ipv6, ok
[22:16] <nacc> kion: yes, i think you need to tell tomcat to not use ipv6 then
[22:16] <kion> nacc,  where do I tell it?
[22:16] <nacc> kion: i told you a few minutes ago
[22:16] <nacc> kion: i believe in your tomcat.conf in catalina_opts (or java_opts, i'm not sure)
[22:17] <kion> nacc,  I dont seem to have a tomcat.conf file!
[22:18] <kion> nacc, It was working fine, I rebooted the server and now I cant get it to work
[22:38] <threexc> Hello, is anyone else experiencing issues with Ubuntu 16.04 and LibreOffice? I can't seem to get it to load at all, it just hangs. Coincidentally, when I try and load a Google Sheet in Chrome it is also hiding all of the text/data after a few seconds
[23:01] <tomreyn> would anyone know how to trigger a canonical livepatch run after it failed to apply?
[23:01] <tomreyn> this software is pretty good in not disclosing how it works :-/
[23:01] <nacc> tomreyn: i would ask in #ubuntu-kernel
[23:02] <tomreyn> will try, thanks
[23:55] <arooni> this /home/david/.task/taskwarrior-notifications/task-popup.sh ;; runs fine via bash or fish shell but doesnt seem to run via cron at all