[00:23] <SchrodingersScat> arooni: some of my crons haven't been running either, it's a complete mystery to me but deep inside I blame systemd for no reason.
[00:47] <ox1de> i have a tech support query
[00:47] <ox1de> my ubunto laptop and pc both have the same glitch - I will boot and the screen will activate for a moment and then go dark - boot seems to work but screen are blank
[00:52] <ox1de> any help here would be hot
[00:57] <ox1de> i have a tech support query
[00:58] <ox1de> my ubuntu laptop and pc both have the same glitch - i will boot and the screen will activate for a moment and then go dark - boot seems to work but the screens are blank
[01:00] <kenrin> Install your video drivers
[01:02] <ox1de> kenrin: how? care to elaborate in pM?
[01:03] <kenrin> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto
[01:06] <ox1de> how can i install video drivers when i cant interface with no screen visibility?
[01:06] <kenrin> Do you not get a terminal if you ctrl+alt+f1-5 ?
[01:07] <kenrin> I think there is also a vga failsafe you can do but not sure on that
[01:12] <donofrio> so I'm wondering about the "force read" mode url what am  I doing wrong here (about:reader?url=www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/2017/06/teacher_retirement_deal_includ.html
[01:14] <ox1de> how do i do a vga failsafe?
[01:18] <kenrin> !nomodeset
[01:18] <kenrin> Think that is it
[01:19] <Bashing-om> ox1de: For trouble shooting purposes; prior to " vga failsafe " can you not log into the system in console ( at the login screen key combo ctl+alt+F1 ) ?
[01:28] <Li> I'm wondering how did Ubuntu bundle lack so many trivial yet very important things! example the suggestion to save opened files when the user decides to close it without making any changes!!!
[01:29] <Li> being unable to right click and open the terminal in specific folder if nautilus view is set to list not icon!!!
[01:30] <kenrin> Does nautilus not do the same thing in other distros ?
[01:30] <Li> how using a simple-scan becomes such a mission impossible task to accomplish!!!
[01:31] <Li> kenrin: I recall using it on fedora at least without such inconvenience
[01:31] <kenrin> my natilus can open in terminal on list
[01:31] <Li> are you on xenial?
[01:31] <kenrin> yes
[01:32] <Li> that is strange??? how do you do that?
[01:32] <Li> ah I got it .. from the buttom side when the folder is not full of items .. that is doable
[01:33] <Li> but not when the folder is completely full ...
[01:33] <kenrin> you can click on folders and do it too
[01:34] <Bashing-om> ox1de: ^^ Did I loose you ?
[01:34] <Li> yes but it will cost me 1 more click
[01:34] <ox1de> still here
[01:35] <oerheks> right click and open the terminal in specific folder >> install nautilus-actions nautilus-admin
[01:35] <ox1de> still trying to solve the glitch
[01:35] <Li> on the long run those are billions of clicks
[01:35] <kenrin> Why you clicking anyway.  I hardly touch my mouse
[01:35] <Bashing-om> ox1de: xtk+alr+F1 doable to gain a console ? Can you login at the console ?
[01:36] <Li> actually very minor things but such improvements can make the OS much better one
[01:36] <ox1de> loged in- still dark screen
[01:36] <oerheks> Li time to install synaptic, more detailed softwarecenter, enough to explore, a distro is just a small set of tools.
[01:36] <kenrin> Well,  you don't like nautilus then complain to nautilus devs or use another file manager
[01:37] <kenrin> I don't see what ubuntu has to do with that
[01:37] <Bashing-om> ox1de: ouch . Now I do not know what to advise .
[01:38] <Li> well, for example when you close gedit it forcefully offers you to "close without saving, cancel, save as" then you MUST CLICK one of the given options .. while in Windows you just press N
[01:38] <Li> that is just a small example why I should use the mouse Krenair
[01:38] <Li> kenrin
[01:39] <Li> kenrin: I'm talking about the bundle as a whole, besides I saw nautilus doing fine on Fedora
[01:39] <leftyfb> Li: again, that's a gedit issue, not ubuntu
[01:40] <leftyfb> Li: also, if you close and hit ALT+w it will select close without saving
[01:40] <kenrin> Li I think you should be in ubuntu discuss,  but everyone you have said doesn't even relate to ubuntu
[01:40] <Li> no one would say it's a notpad issue not windows when it comes to microsoft.
[01:40] <kenrin> s/everyone/everything
[01:41] <kenrin> because microsoft makes notepad...
[01:41] <leftyfb> Li: Microsoft made notepad. It's not open source and it's only available in Microsoft Windows. So yes, it's a Windows/Microsoft problem. Unlike gedit in Ubuntu
[01:41] <Li> leftyfb: negative .. alt+w will force the same 3 exact choices
[01:41] <leftyfb> Li: you are wrong
[01:42] <leftyfb> Li: open gedit -> type stuff -> ALT+F4 to close -> ALT+w will close without saving
[01:42] <Li> leftyfb: I understand it's MS product but also gedit is cannonical choice to add on ubuntu, I'm talking about the whole things as one package
[01:43] <leftyfb> Li: is there particular issue we can help you with or did you just come here to complain?
[01:43] <Li> leftyfb: you made it try twice but I assure it doesn't work without forcing those three mentioned options
[01:43] <Li> gedit 3.18.3 here maybe you have something else
[01:44] <Li> leftyfb: are you annoyed by my complains?
[01:46] <leftyfb> Li: multiple people here are annoyed by your complaints. If you need help, ask your question and give details on the issue. Otherwise, file bugs using ubuntu-bug or file bug reports/feature requests on launchpad or the upstream project website.
[01:48] <Li> Oh so you even know how others feel about my conversation! good skills, I suggest change your mindset and look to my "non-complaints" as positive productive conversation if someone wants to do something about it.
[01:48] <Li> in anyway, you don't need to reply if you don't see the point of what I'm talking about it.
[01:48] <oerheks> grab the code, change the keys or behaviour and build your custom gedit
[01:49] <Li> maybe someone else not annoyed and would like to share view points with me
[01:52] <dlam> how do you debug high load average?  any commands to see what's adding to it?  I got a webserver and I wanna see if it's getting bogged down serving pictures or something
[01:52] <leftyfb> dlam: htop
[01:52] <leftyfb> dlam: you'll probably need to install it
[01:53] <dlam> hmm yeah i got it already!  what part of it do i use?
[01:53] <leftyfb> dlam: type it
[01:53] <leftyfb> dlam: http://www.deonsworld.co.za/2012/12/20/understanding-and-using-htop-monitor-system-resources/
[01:54] <kenrin> Probably going to need to dig through apache access logs too
[01:54] <oerheks> mod_status is an Apache module which helps to monitor web server load and current httpd connections
[01:55] <dlam> ya ya but I thought load average is more than just cpu and stuff
[01:55] <dlam> ooo mod_status never heard of
[01:55] <oerheks> https://www.tecmint.com/monitor-apache-web-server-load-and-page-statistics/
[01:55] <dlam> yeah my 'htop' is 95% apache2
[02:01] <ox1de> i am still glitched here
[02:04] <learnme_> This may be me being bad at scripting... but, I can't seem to run "sudo apt-get update" inside a .sh script. All I get is "E: Invalid operation update" what did I do wrong?
[02:05] <nacc> learnme_: pastebin the script, it's probably a typo of some kind
[02:05] <leftyfb> learnme_: sudo won't work in a script if it requires you to type a password
[02:05] <rodd> do you guys know of a tool to record you browsing a website and exporting it as a gif / mp4 / mov?
[02:05] <rodd> export*
[02:06] <learnme_> leftyfb: yep, I'm aware. I figure I'd get a different error than what I mentioned if that were the case.
[02:06] <leftyfb> learnme_: it was just my initial perception. Not saying it's the solution
[02:07] <learnme_> leftyfb: mk. I appreciate the input
[02:07] <leftyfb> learnme_: as nacc suggestion, post the script to pastebin for us to take a look
[02:08] <learnme_> https://pastebin.com/XTmFgU72
[02:10] <nacc> learnme_: what version of ubuntu (lsb_release -d)
[02:10] <leftyfb> learnme_: add -y to install
[02:27] <learnme_> nacc: ubuntu 16.04
[02:33] <nacc> learnme_: seems to be working fine in a lxd 16.04 container. does have some interaction (e.g., add-apt-repository, sudo itself the first time)
[03:07] <phiona>  i issued a sudo apt autoremove command and there was an
[03:07] <phiona> error: timeout was reached. did i break the system?
[03:08] <phiona>  i issued a sudo apt autoremove command and there was an error: timeout was reached. did i break the system?
[03:16] <phiona>  i issued a sudo apt autoremove command and there was an error: timeout was reached. did i break the system?
[03:22] <Bashing-om> phiona: What results ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo apt -f install ; sudo dpkg -C ' ?
[03:26] <phiona> Bashing-om: prior to sudo apt remove command, i issued this sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:27] <Bashing-om> phiona: " did i break the system? " ^^ to see .
[03:27] <phiona> and all went well
[03:33] <phiona> Bashing-om: can i issue your command all on one line?
[03:35] <Bashing-om> phiona: While you may . will be best one-at- a-time .. to catch any possible errors the system posts .
[03:39] <Came> Hi, New Here, Looking for a Linux solution to log/audit NTFS shares (who modified, deleted a file), I don't want to use a Microsoft Solution
[03:40] <Jordan_U> Came: By "ntfs shares" do you mean CIFS shares? If not, what do you mean exactly? What is your end goal?
[03:41] <Came> I have a Windows file server, with multiple users (on Windows) accessing this server
[03:41] <Came> I Should say SMB
[03:42] <Jordan_U> Came: It seems to me like a proper log/audit needs to be made from the server hosting the share.
[03:44] <Came> That's what Microsoft say, but the logs will be huge, I told myself that a Linux server, like Nagios, can grab the data from the windows share server
[03:45] <sadtaco> I did a new Ubuntu installation and it detected my wifi USB fine but it won't connect to my wifi (I'm sure I entered the password correctly).  How can I troubleshoot this?
[03:46] <Came> :sadtaco iwconfig
[03:46] <Came> sadtaco: tape iwconfig wlan0
[03:47] <phiona> Bashing-om: https://paste.ubuntu.com/24854265/
[03:47] <Bashing-om> phiona: Looking .
[03:48] <sadtaco> sec
[03:51] <sadtaco> no such device
[03:51] <Jordan_U> sadtaco: Please pastebin the output of "lsusb" which will tell us the exact model/chipset of your wireless dongle.
[03:51] <sadtaco> I can't paste it's on another computer with no internet
[03:52] <sadtaco> i do have a ... wlx.... long name IEEE 802.11
[03:53] <sadtaco> Ralink Corporation RT5370
[03:53] <sadtaco> Think I need drivers?
[03:53] <sadtaco> Ohh someone had the same issue
[03:53] <sadtaco> https://askubuntu.com/questions/163598/how-do-i-install-wireless-drivers-for-ralink-rt5370-offline?rq=1
[03:54] <Jordan_U> phiona: Looks find to me. If you want to be absolutely sure then run "sudo apt -f install" (which you didn't successfully run due to the ';' before).
[03:57] <Bashing-om> Jordan_U: - phiona - whats up with the " Error: Timeout was reached " any way to get additional info ?
[03:57] <hi_im_trip> hello, i may have a serious problem and deleted or formatted the partitions including the partition i created to backup a girl's HD to install ubuntu for her for the first time, this is not looking good for her and she's freaking out on me now
[03:59] <phiona> Bashing-om: the system is also very slow. closing an app seems to take about 30 seconds.
[03:59] <Bashing-om> hi_im_trip: . from a liveDVD(USB) what shows ' parted -l ' . All the partitions still present ?
[03:59] <hi_im_trip> i was just trying to install ubuntu on this girl's macbook pro, something i've done literally hundreds of times, and this time by selecting "use lvm" and "completely erase and install" was checked off, but i thought that in the next screen i could choose which partition to it would erase(stupid me), but, even tho when i clicked install now, i immediately clicked go back when it gave a warning saying that by continuing the
[03:59] <hi_im_trip> partitions would be erased, now none of the mac hd partitions are visible and she had her dead mother's photos on there (only copy) and many other important files on a backup partition. it was all too fast to have actually written anything to the disks, so i should be able to recover her files yes?
[03:59] <hi_im_trip> let me check
[04:01] <Jordan_U> hi_im_trip: Yes. First, if you have a drive larger than the drive you're trying to recover data from then *carefully* use dd or GNU ddrescue to make a full image of the drive. If you do not have a large enough drive, get one.
[04:02] <Jordan_U> hi_im_trip: Most likely you will be able to fix this in a few minutes, but making the image first will take hours. This is still the right way to go.
[04:02] <hi_im_trip> failure to communicate with kernel device mapper driver
[04:04] <phiona> Bashing-om: Jordan_U: sudo apt -f install seems to be theres no problem. . im restarting now to see if it runs faster.
[04:05] <Jordan_U> hi_im_trip: After making the backup image of the drive, you can use GParted or testdisk's partition recovery features. I've used testdisk many times and it works great but the UI is aweful and confusing (IMHO). I have no experience with GParted's recovery features, but I assume that the UI is better (see, less chance of making a stupid mistake).
[04:05] <hi_im_trip> it also says incompatible libdevmapper (unkwon version) and kernel driver (unknown version)
[04:06] <hi_im_trip> Jordan_U, so no chance to use the live usb and gparted to recover?
[04:06] <Jordan_U> hi_im_trip: Unfortunately I cannot help you more tonight. Good luck, and don't due anything hasty. *Slow down* and think carefully so that you don't take a recoverable situation and make it unrecoverable.
[04:06] <hi_im_trip> i do have another hd here, but apparently the only other usb port on here doesn't seem to work
[04:08] <Jordan_U> hi_im_trip: There is a very high chance that GParted from the LiveUSB will be able to recover the partitions, but *DO NOT* try to do so without making a full drive image first.
[04:08] <sadtaco> Okay I'm having trouble installing these RT5370 wifi drivers.  I get "recipe for target '_module_/home/z/Downloads/DPO...' failed"
[04:09] <Jordan_U> hi_im_trip: Slow down, do it right. Tell your friend that someone here said that the data is most likely recoverable but that you should be careful and so it may take some time to get it back in the most careful way.
[04:09] <sadtaco> is starting with _module_ correct? That seems weird
[04:10] <Jordan_U> hi_im_trip: Like maybe wait until tomorrow, when you're not as nervous. I understand that that might be a hard choice for you to make.
[04:10] <Jordan_U> hi_im_trip: I need to leave now, sorry.
[04:11] <hi_im_trip> Jordan_U, thanks so much for your help, can you kindly tell me the command to do the drive image, and will it work on the other hd if there is enough space but other files?
[04:14] <psychoticwarrior> whats up
[04:15] <hi_im_trip> the lvm2 pv file system shows up as 464.78GB in size and 464.78GB used and 0.00B unused in gparted
[04:15] <sadtaco> "You will never get this 2011-era driver to compile on the relatively new 3.16.0-xx kernel." pls no
[04:16] <sadtaco> https://askubuntu.com/questions/568747/impossible-to-install-ralink-rt5370-driver-on-xubuntu-14-10 I get this same error but doesnt' look like there is a solution
[04:17] <sadtaco> This was like the top rated usb wifi device on Amazon. I guess I should have looked into it better before buying :/
[04:17] <psychoticwarrior> whats the problem with it
[04:18] <phiona> Bashing-om:  Jordan_U: ok thanks. im running faster now.
[04:18] <sadtaco> psychoticwarrior, same problem in the link
[04:18] <Bashing-om> phiona: :)
[04:19] <sadtaco> Do you guys think if, on a windows laptop, I enable internet sharing, and connect its ethernet to this ubuntu computer whose wifi isn't working, that that would work? Guess I can try and see
[04:19] <psychoticwarrior> sadtaco try it out
[04:19] <psychoticwarrior> it may detect it
[04:24] <sadtaco> yes it worked yay.
[04:24] <psychoticwarrior> jizzlo
[04:24] <psychoticwarrior> good job sadtaco
[04:24] <sadtaco> but i can't apt-get update.  It gives some error about lock list
[04:25] <sadtaco> and I got some error booting about lvm
[04:25] <psychoticwarrior> check out /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:25] <sadtaco> let me see if I can get irc running on that PC..
[04:25] <sadtaco> kk
[04:25] <psychoticwarrior> check out software manager
[04:25] <psychoticwarrior> i think thats what its called
[04:27] <Bashing-om> sadtaco: wait a bit about the lock .. maybe "unattended-upgrades" is running .
[04:38] <sadtaco-remote_> Oh weird apt-get is working now
[04:43] <zorbs0ne> are there any good programs for finding files in ubuntu.
[04:44] <Bashing-om> zorbs0ne: 'find' is the tool for that .
[04:45] <zorbs0ne> Bashing-om: I'm trying to find htacess.
[04:45] <zorbs0ne> htaccess*
[04:45] <hi_im_trip> how do i clone a drive with dd?
[04:45] <sadtaco-remote_> huh... now im pretty certain that ubuntu is somehow identifying this USB wifi wrong
[04:45] <Bashing-om> zorbs0ne: ' sudo find / -name htaccess ' .
[04:45] <sadtaco-remote_> the model number with the packing is different
[04:46] <sadtaco-remote_> so is the brand name
[04:46] <rud0lf> isn't htaccess supposed to start with a dot ?
[04:47] <zorbs0ne> rud0lf: ah, missed the dot, thanks.
[04:47] <zorbs0ne> Bashing-om: thank you.
[04:52] <Adenosine> What are some good IRC client options for Ubuntu? I'm not super sold on xchat-gnome
[04:52] <sadtaco-remote_> https://www.amazon.com/Panda-Ultra-150Mbps-Wireless-Adapter/dp/B00762YNMG/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1497415902&sr=1-1&keywords=panda+usb+wifi I got this model.. should it really be saying it's Ralink RT5370?
[04:52] <sadtaco-remote_> ive always used xchat/hexchat
[04:53] <rud0lf> there's terminal client, irssi
[04:54] <rud0lf> also chatzilla addon for firefox
[04:54] <Adenosine> what's the deal with irssi? Why opt for a terminal?
[04:56] <rud0lf> i don't know how to answer that.. it's small, fast and sufficient
[04:57] <rud0lf> i use it since i have ubuntu installed
[05:02] <Adenosine> it's cool, feels kind of like vim but hard to navigate
[05:11] <sadtaco-remote_> apparently people with Ubuntu 13 don't have trouble with this device. But with 17.04 I am..
[05:12] <sadtaco-remote_> scripts/Makefile.build:294: recipe for target '/home/z/Downloads/DPO_RT5572_LinuxSTA_2.6.1.3_20121022/os/linux/../../common/cmm_data.o' failed
[05:16] <sadtaco-remote_> how can i check if it's the device that's not working... or if there is something wrong with my wifi settings?
[05:17] <sadtaco-remote_> With my android phone I can connect to the wifi fine. Just select the network, enter password, done, but..
[05:22] <gurukr18> Back after registering
[05:23] <psychoticwarrior> kool
[05:23] <psychoticwarrior> how ya doing
[05:23] <gurukr18> Doing good thank you
[05:23] <psychoticwarrior> sounds good
[05:24] <gurukr18> It's been so long that i used irc thanks to official commitments that my nickname was junked :-)
[05:25] <gurukr18> Anyway , I'm trying to use pnfs on Ubuntu and tried mounting with the following option: -t nfs4 -o minorversion=1
[05:25] <gurukr18> And i get error " operation not permitted "
[05:26] <gurukr18> Any ideas guys
[05:30] <hateball> gurukr18: Are you mounting using sudo?
[05:30] <gurukr18> I dialed in as root user itself
[05:34] <gurukr18> Proc/filesystem has nsf4 entry
[05:35] <gurukr18> And I'm also able to mount the fs as NFS 4 but when i user the minorversion switch i get the error
[05:35] <gurukr18> Should i specify in a different way
[05:35] <gurukr18> ?
[05:36] <sadtaco> apparently my problem with wifi was a bug in 17.04 that randomizes MAC address by default...
[06:36] <Maxim__> hi, so what ftp client/way do you mrecommand? sftp? ftps? vsftpd? I want to grand access to specific users on specific folders, on apache2.
[06:41] <YankDownUnder> ftp client, or ftp server...?
[06:41] <Maxim__> server
[06:42] <YankDownUnder> Maxim__, Ah. Right. I'm old fashioned. I stick with "old stuff"...mostly because it's mature and dependable with heaps of support.
[06:43] <Maxim__> YankDownUnder: old stuff means vsftpd?
[06:43] <YankDownUnder> Maxim__, Yeppers.
[06:45] <Maxim__> YankDownUnder: I don't quite understand how do I need to create virtual users and how to edit the user files to be:    user : chroot-folder ? the man pages don't really specify this
[06:45] <Maxim__> the chroot folder is NOT the user's home folder /home/user
[06:50] <YankDownUnder> Maxim__, https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-vsftpd-for-a-user-s-directory-on-ubuntu-16-04
[07:02] <Maxim__> YankDownUnder: ok, but how can I do that user1 will have ftp access and jailroot on folder /var/www/html/website1 ? I can't set the permission on that folder to nobody , also the newly created user's root is /home/user/ and not /var/www....
[07:04] <Maxim__> maybe edit /etc/passwd
[07:05] <sebsebseb> hi
[07:08] <ThePortWhisperer> hello
[07:08] <sebsebseb> ThePortWhisperer: hi
[07:08] <ThePortWhisperer> when i was installing ubuntu server it claimed "no default route" was found
[07:08] <ThePortWhisperer> how can i fix this
[07:09] <Ben64> give it network settings?
[07:09] <ThePortWhisperer> it's also not getting the static IP it should from the DHCP server
[07:11] <ThePortWhisperer> instead of getting a 172.1.1.0/24 addr it got 172.23.128.0/24
[07:12] <Ben64> sounds like your network is not configured properly then
[07:13] <ThePortWhisperer> Ben64, i guess it's the config of the host only adapter
[07:13] <ThePortWhisperer> i'll check
[07:13] <vegombrei> hi i bought a gaming controller to play retro nes games, its usb controller lights up and stuff but doesnt work, i tested it with a windows machine and it worked there how can i fix this issue i have no clue what to do as im kinda noob at ubuntu
[07:14]  * vegombrei Que-Passa ??
[07:15] <cristian_c> vegombrei: have ypu tried to configure it?
[07:15] <cristian_c> *you
[07:15] <cristian_c> *calibrate
[07:15] <vegombrei> cristian_c: how do i configure it? i looked in the system settings and theres no option for a controller
[07:15] <cristian_c> !info jstest-gui
[07:16] <cristian_c> !info jstest-gtk
[07:18] <cristian_c> vegombrei: ls /dev/js*
[07:18] <vegombrei> ls: cannot access '/dev/js*': No such file or directory
[07:19] <cristian_c> vegombrei: dpkg -l | grep joystick
[07:19] <cristian_c> vegombrei: is the controller connected to usb port?
[07:20] <vegombrei> cristian_c: yes
[07:20] <hateball> vegombrei: if you unplug it, plug it back in, then run "dmesg" you should see what /dev it gets assigned
[07:21] <vegombrei> cristian_c: yeah something happened a huge load of information and numbers
[07:21] <vegombrei> hateball: what does this mean? shall i pastebin it to ya'll
[07:21] <hateball> !paste | vegombrei
[07:22] <hateball> vegombrei: installing jstest-gtk as cristian_c suggested should pick the device up automatically. but if it doesnt and you need to specify it's good to know what to pick, hence the dmesg thing
[07:24] <vegombrei> hateball: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24855290/
[07:25] <vegombrei> hateball: thanks, what are we looking at here thats a lot of numbers and its completely alien
[07:27] <cristian_c> there is alsp a github project about to support dragonrise controllers
[07:28] <hateball> well it looks like the kernel supports it just fine, just a matter of configuring it then
[07:28] <Mrokii> Hello. Can I clone a bootable HD-Partition to a new HD and boot from that? Or do I have to do some adjustments?
[07:28] <hateball> vegombrei: did you install jstest-gtk ?
[07:28] <vegombrei> cristian_c: whats github?
[07:29] <vegombrei> hateball: nope, shall i sudo apt-get it?
[07:29] <cristian_c> hateball: he can also test with sudo evtest, btw
[07:29] <hateball> vegombrei: sudo apt install joystick
[07:29] <hateball> cristian_c: yea, but that's not so new-user-friendly :)
[07:29] <gulzar> Hi. I am behind proxy (with authentication). On a fresh installtion. I can use firefox after configuration. But if try to apt-get by export_proxy, it just keeps on trying to connect to .archive.ubuntu. .     .I need to use non proxy conection for this first(new install) apt-get update. After that I can do update,upgrade from proxy. How to get the apt-get work initailly? There is no synaptic. Can I use wget to download file, place them a
[07:30] <hateball> vegombrei: oh, and also "sudo apt install jstest-gtk"
[07:30] <vegombrei> hateball: done ..
[07:30] <vegombrei> hateball: shall i try and see if it works?
[07:31] <Gattyman> Hey there!
[07:31] <cristian_c> vegombrei: the application lets you to configure/calibrate the controller
[07:32] <vegombrei> cristian_c: hmm ok .. so ill try run the retro nes thingy and be right back gimme a moment
[07:34] <hateball> vegombrei: you'll want to actually run jstest-gtk to see if the controller works, and possibly re-calibrate it
[07:40] <Mrokii> What's the best way to copy a bootable system from on HD to another. The last time I had to reinstall I just made backups of the important prefs and copied them back as needed. But I don't want to have to install all programs manually again and change all preferences by hand.
[07:41] <cristian_c> Mrokii: from a live session?
[07:41] <sebsebseb> Gattyman: hi
[07:41] <cristian_c> or the same running system?
[07:43] <Mrokii> chachasmooth: I have a live CD if needed. I can boot from that and copy the data. I realise that copying data from the HD I have booted with isn't the best idea.
[07:43] <gulzar> Got it working by editing visudo
[07:43] <vegombrei> hateball: it worked, i mean i could calibrate it and stuff however when i start the nes emulator the screen goes blank but theres sound
[07:45] <Mrokii> cristian_c: I have a live CD if needed. I can boot from that and copy the data. I realise that copying data from the HD I have booted with isn't the best idea.
[07:46] <Mrokii> chachasmooth: Sorry, I chose the wrong nick. Wasn't meaning to send it to you.
[07:53] <cristian_c> vegombrei: you should read the nes emulator documentation
[07:53] <cristian_c> *official
[07:54] <vegombrei> cristian_c: lol I was just doing that
[07:55] <vegombrei> cristian_c: i think i gotts install the emulators properly again im going thru a tutorial and following it step by step
[07:56] <cristian_c> Mrokii: do you want just to clone a single partition?
[07:56] <hateball> Mrokii: You can use something like Clonezilla if you want to make a full clone of a disk or the partitions
[07:56] <hateball> !clonezilla
[07:56] <hateball> hmmm
[07:57] <Mrokii> cristian_c: Yes, only one partition. Though I'm thinking about transferring the "home"-stuff to another partition, maybe later on, if that's possible afterwards.
[07:57] <cristian_c> https://askubuntu.com/questions/637130/clone-single-partition-to-empty-disk
[07:57] <Mrokii> hateball: I think I have a "Parted Magic" CD as well, so I could use that for clining, if that's a viable way.
[07:57] <cristian_c> JohnP answer
[07:58] <Mrokii> cristian_c: Thanks, I'll take a look.
[07:59] <vegombrei> cristian_c: dude theres like a ton of stuff i had not installed im doing it right now
[08:02] <hateball> Mrokii: iirc parted magic has clonezilla on it
[08:02] <Mrokii> hateball: Ah, okay. I haven't used it for a long time.
[08:03] <hateball> Mrokii: clonezilla is just a nice frontend for partimage/partclone
[08:04] <Mrokii> hateball: Okay.
[08:07] <hateball> Mrokii: otherwise you can just rsync to your backup location as well, but you'd need to reinstall grub into MBR when restoring if so
[08:09] <Mrokii> hateball: Okay, thanks. I'll have to investigate that.
[08:10] <hateball> !backup
[08:10] <hateball> !cloning | this is more like it
[08:10] <hateball> ... or not.
[08:22] <Mrokii> hateball: Thanks, I guess I'll find a good solution among these. :)
[08:23] <hateball> Mrokii: yea it's all dependent on your usecase
[08:23] <hateball> for a simple full system restore clonezilla is nice. but if you want to do individual files etc, then maybe rsync instead. and so on
[08:26] <Mrokii> I'm more going for a full system restore, but I'll investigate the options further and see what fits best. Thanks again for all the suggestions, hateball and cristian_c.
[09:07] <hundfred> ubuntu the linux for human beeings: it seems to be to hard for some human beeings, to type 'fsck -y /dev/sda1', even if it is printed on the boot screen :/
[09:12] <ikonia> you shouldn't type that
[09:12] <ikonia> certainly not type it blindly
[09:32] <Aliekezhi> hi, This is very strange : when I check with network-manager, I can see 2 times the same SSID : one secured and another one unsecured. When I check with iwlist scan, I see this SSID only as secured...How would you explain this difference ? Could that be a bug in network manager ?
[09:32] <user218> hello. when I scale any window more than 3 workspaces it freeze redrawing. Is any solution to fix this?
[09:51] <hundfred>  ikonia what should you do instead?
[09:51] <ikonia> hundfred: in what respect ?
[10:38] <sadtaco> Is there seriously no way to undervolt Nvidia cards on Linux?
[10:38] <SCHAPiE> hmm
[10:38] <SCHAPiE> my Chrome and Chromium
[10:39] <SCHAPiE> doesn't display any spaces, for some odd reason
[10:39] <SCHAPiE> and numbers look very weird
[10:46] <hateball> SCHAPiE: regardless of website?
[11:02] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:06] <kbob> hello BluesKaj
[11:07] <user218> is anyway to fix this error when I try to make my window really big: "This window tried to create an absurdly large window  "
[11:07] <BluesKaj> hi kbob
[11:17] <qswz> woa I had a filename with an ending space, didn't know it was allowed
[11:17] <qswz> trailing space char
[11:17] <qswz> not mine, but downloaded from some email
[11:18] <qswz> I thought those would be trimmed automatically
[11:20] <ppf> why would they?
[11:22] <qswz> it's evil
[11:23] <ppf> it's just a filename?
[11:24] <qswz> hmm no a folder name
[11:24] <ppf> same difference
[11:24] <qswz> 'Dummy iOS Components '
[11:28] <gulzar> !ping
[11:29] <gulzar> I am using ubuntu-touch emulator and it freezes if not used for a minute. Any way to prevent this?
[11:29] <hateball> !touch
[11:30] <gulzar> hateball: thank you
[11:34] <trying3301> Hi
[11:36] <trying3301> I did a "sudo apt-get purge linux-image-x.x.x-x-generic" for the newest kernel because I was unable to autoremove it. Now when I try apt-get upgrade it doesn't install this newest kernel
[11:36] <trying3301> I guess I've blocked it. How can I unblock it?
[11:38] <gulzar> trying3301: apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:39] <trying3301> gulzar I did "apt-get dist-upgrade" and it ends like this:"Calculating upgrade... Done 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."
[11:39] <gulzar> trying3301:  if uyou did this afte 'update' , 'upgrade' then you have latest
[11:40] <gulzar> trying3301: if you want bleeding edge, then wiki provides the steps
[11:41] <trying3301> gulzar when I was performing a routine update+upgrade I got errors and I had to remove the "4.4.0-80-generic" manually. It's not about bleeding edge. Thanks anyway
[11:42] <apsknight> Hello Guys, I need little help in installing LAMP stack in my ubuntu.
[11:44] <Mrokii> Hello again. I'm in the process of setting up my new hard disk (SSD) and have a question about the linux-swap-partition. On my old system-HD, "linuxxswap" is within another partition of type "extended". I wonder if this structure is necessary, as it seems that I can create the swap-partition without using some kind of extended-partition.
[11:45] <gulzar> Mrokii: better not to use 'swap' parttion on SSD
[11:45] <Mrokii> gulzar: I've heard about that but I guess I do need some kind of swap-partition, don't I?
[11:46] <gulzar> Mrokii: how much is your RAM?
[11:46] <Mrokii> 8 GB
[11:46] <trying3301> I solved my issue with this:" sudo apt-get install linux-image-4.4.0-80-generic" and rebooting now.
[11:46] <gulzar> Mrokii: and you ever felt that 8GB is less for your work?
[11:47] <gulzar> Mrokii: then No. Swap is if 'suspend to disk'/ hibernate . And if heavy RAM usage like data analysis or using Chrome( :P) . Else swap is not needed
[11:47] <Mrokii> gulzar: I'm not sure. On my current HD I do have a swap-partition but I don't know if it ever gets used during regular usage.
[11:48] <gulzar> Mrokii: I don't have swap with 8GB ram
[11:49] <gulzar> Mrokii: regarding partiton schema. Please open, 'gnome-disk-utility' aka 'disks' and see the line 'Partitioning' after selecting your HDD/SDD
[11:50] <gulzar> if that line is GUID then you can have as many primary as you like (practically). IF Master Boot Record then you may need one extended , depending on how many paritions you  need
[11:50] <Mrokii> gulzar: I'm using Kubuntu / KDE Partition Manager at the moment, so the gnome utility isn't installed.
[11:50] <gulzar> Mrokii: either, np
[11:50] <gulzar> Mrokii: only the info is important
[11:50] <gulzar> is it 'MBR' or 'GUID/GPT/EFI'
[11:51] <gulzar> or type in terminal    'sudo fdisk -l'
[11:52] <Mrokii> gulzar: I'm looking for the info in kde partition manager
[11:52] <Mrokii> Oh, okay, I'll try bash.
[11:52] <Mia> Hello channel -- I would like to install ubuntu on my current Windows 10 machine. I've did a few installations using the "install alongside windows 10" option in the past so I believe I know how to install but here is the thing I need: I want windows 10 to be the default OS on this machine and I do not want to see the OS selection page, however I still would like a way to switch to ubuntu (by restart) on this machine somehow... How sho
[11:53] <gulzar> Mia: yes possible, for that need to setup a key shortcut to show GRUB, else hide it all time. In Grub set windows as default
[11:53] <Mia> gulzar: oh I see
[11:53] <Mia> that would be perfect! where can I find more information about this
[11:54] <Mrokii> gulzar: Wait, I remember that I used GPT when I created the partition scheme.
[11:54] <Mrokii> If I remember correctly
[11:55] <zeekhuge> was wondering, why do all the package repos in apt use http and not https ?
[11:55] <Mrokii> gulzar: Yep, it's gpt, have just checked with fdisk
[11:55] <gulzar> Mrokii: if GPT then no need of extended. Create as many partitions as you like as 'primary'
[11:55] <Mrokii> gulzar: Thanks.
[11:55] <zeekhuge> and they actually are http, not the case that they are getting redirected.
[11:56] <gulzar> Mrokii: and no swap. If swap needed, then you can use 'swap file'
[11:56] <a1exas> while attempting to fsck the drive with suspected errors i have  a notice that filesys is mounted and am i really sure, and if i  unmount i got the message Permission denied while trying to  open /dev/sda5
[11:57] <a1exas> please help solve this problem
[11:58] <gulzar> Mia: https://askubuntu.com/questions/785757/how-to-hide-grub-unless-key-is-pressed    , can do similar searches online
[11:58] <gulzar> a1exas: if running any disk check utility better is to use a live disk to avoid any problem
[11:59] <gulzar> a1exas: your question is unclear
[11:59] <Mia> thank you gulzar for all the gelp
[11:59] <gulzar> Mia: anytime, enjoy linux
[12:00] <a1exas> gulzar: i have been trying to run it from live USB and got the same errors
[12:00] <a1exas> gulzar: so I will try to rephrase it for you
[12:00] <muteboy> Hi, I have problems with sound on my Ubuntu/Gnome. Getting sound from videos, music, games, YouTube, but there is no sound/volume indicator in the system tray. Sound section of system settings shows no output or input devices.
[12:00] <Mrokii> gulzar: Okay, thanks. I'll go without a swap partition for now and see how it goes.
[12:00] <a1exas> gulzar: i need to check a filesystem of a linux disk and if i try it say that it is mounted or if i umnount it if say i don't have permission
[12:01] <a1exas> gulzar: doest my answer make it more clear for you now?
[12:01] <gulzar> a1exas: from live, don't open any partition. Just boot to live and do the checking, don't open file manager
[12:01] <digdeep> hi, i tried to install ubuntu 17.07 on dell xps 15 9560. I made a bootable use drive, it is able to boot, but there is no GUI at all, black screen.
[12:01] <gulzar> a1exas: you may 'sudo umount' and not just umount
[12:01] <a1exas> gulzar: how is that? do you have any step by step instructions in mind?
[12:01] <digdeep> more detail here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/924610/how-to-install-ubuntu-16-04-on-xps-15-9560
[12:02] <gulzar> a1exas: which tool to fsck?
[12:02] <a1exas> guzlar: well this disc is not where system is installed, is this still a necessity to boot from live usb or not?
[12:02] <gulzar> a1exas: then no
[12:03] <a1exas> gulzar: i don't understand sorry, what is a 'tool to fsck' ? what do you mean by that
[12:03] <gulzar> a1exas: you can check from running system
[12:03] <a1exas> gulzar: ok so i first do sudo unmount /dev/sda5 or whatever else id this drive has right?
[12:04] <gulzar> a1exas: which command are you using for fsck?
[12:04] <gulzar> a1exas: yes if not in use, then umount it
[12:04] <a1exas> gulzar: my limited experience tells me to use fsck -A or whatever
[12:04] <gulzar> a1exas: Ah ok
[12:04] <a1exas> gulzar: general file errors check
[12:05] <a1exas> gulzar: i have a damaged files stored there i suspect it can solve it perhaps
[12:05] <a1exas> sudo: unmount: command not found
[12:05] <a1exas> hm
[12:05] <nomic> umount
[12:05] <nomic> ?
[12:05] <a1exas> oops
[12:06] <nomic> umount
[12:06] <Mrokii> a1exas: yes, it's "umount".
[12:06] <a1exas> thanks
[12:06] <nomic> yw.
[12:06] <gulzar> a1exas: done?
[12:07] <a1exas> yes
[12:07] <a1exas> 0x41: Dirty bit is set. Fs was not properly unmounted and some data may be corrupt.
[12:07] <a1exas> 1) Remove dirty bit
[12:07] <a1exas> 2) No action
[12:07] <a1exas> what is better? i believe 1 but i have no knowledge
[12:07] <gulzar> a1exas: now this depends on you, I can't tell anything. In my case I had .trash from Mac so I removed it. I have no idea bout your data
[12:08] <a1exas> gulzar: i have an acronis .tib archive stored there which became 'corrupted'
[12:08] <gulzar> a1exas: which partition is that? ext4/ntfs/fat ?
[12:08] <a1exas> ext4 but it was ntfs
[12:08] <a1exas> ubuntu installer converted it
[12:08] <a1exas> than i got an issue with freezing
[12:09] <a1exas> so i have a lot of hard reboots in between
[12:09] <gulzar> a1exas: how you installed it? whcih option selected? 'alongside windows' ?
[12:10] <a1exas> gulzar: i don't remember it clearly now but i remember i split it to two or something, however on that drive it was installed on was some data stored (mainly that archive) which is still there but I have probs because software think it is corrupted)
[12:11] <a1exas> any idea which operators I should use for fsck in that case?
[12:11] <a1exas> that is what it gives me now, but I believe it wasn't done it's job so to speak
[12:11] <a1exas> /dev/sda5: 41087 files, 19896285/32413000 clusters
[12:11] <gulzar> a1exas: these things are difficult to help on chat. For now remember, before isntaling, format the partition always.  make backup and select 1
[12:12] <a1exas> ok thank you I will try again to see if that what i didi just now was helpful in any way
[12:12] <a1exas> thanks again
[12:12] <gulzar> a1exas: playing with data can be dangerous, I should have went with '1'
[12:19] <a1exas> gulzar: oh i am sorry it says filesystem type: msdos
[12:19] <a1exas> in the properties dialogue
[12:19] <a1exas> can I convert it to ext4 without loosing data on it?
[12:23] <k_sze> Does anybody know if hybrid graphics is possible on a *desktop*? Let's say I have a mini tower and I have a Skylake Core i7 CPU and a NVIDIA GTX1080 card.
[12:24] <gulzar> a1exas: no
[12:24] <gulzar> a1exas: take backup and then format
[12:25] <gulzar> a1exas: for msdos, go to MSWin and do chekcing there
[12:26] <a1exas> i am not sure my windows can see it even!
[12:26] <digdeep> hello...
[12:26] <gulzar> a1exas: why not? if its msdos, then windows can see it
[12:26] <hateball> k_sze: Not in the same X session, no
[12:26] <a1exas> last time i checked it wasn't
[12:26] <a1exas> and also my linux live usb acronis thing also can't see it
[12:27] <gulzar> a1exas: live disks may need special package to mount them
[12:28] <gulzar> a1exas: please show your partitions, take screenshot
[12:33] <a1exas> i don't want even load to windows to check, haha
[12:33] <gulzar_> a1exas: lazzy
[12:40] <gulzar_> !ping
[12:41] <anchnk> hello, is it possible to have a title bar on the rxvt window within i3 ? I am not sure it's a setting related to the wm or to the program itself ?
[12:46] <muteboy> Hi, I have problems with sound on my Ubuntu/Gnome. Getting sound from videos, music, games, YouTube, but there is no sound/volume indicator in the system tray. Sound section of system settings shows no output or input devices.
[12:47] <muteboy> I've searched Ubuntu Forums, tried various things. It's not the dummy thing.
[12:57] <gulzar_> muteboy: you can try installing indicator
[13:00] <oaulakh> why my windows partition not opening? http://i64.tinypic.com/33ud93l.png
[13:00] <oaulakh> anyone http://i64.tinypic.com/33ud93l.png
[13:03] <chris_99> Hi, i'm just wondering if anyone has had issues with firewire and old camcorders, i just added a pcie card '06:00.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6306/7/8 [Fire II(M)] IEEE 1394 OHCI Controller (rev c0)' but i can't for the life of me seem to get the camcorder to enumerate (it's a dcr-trv340 hi-8 camcorder), i can see /dev/fw0 and /dev/fw1
[13:04] <chris_99> but both 'cat /sys/bus/firewire/devices/fw1/model_name' and fw0 just return Juju
[13:42] <Mrokii> gulzar_: Do you happen to know how I can install grub2 on one of the partitions I created on the new disk? I've seen something like "grub-install /dev/[harddisk]" and "grub-mkconfig -o /mnt/boot/grub/grub.cfg" (with the path probably needing to be changed to the "mnt"-folder on the new hard-disk...)
[13:46] <akkonrad> I have again this issue: after update my ram is not fully used, I have 16 GB but only 4GB now are used (and I have few apps running now, including java IDE and Chrome browser). usually it should take around 12 GB .my browser is slow, IDE is slow - what could that be?
[13:48]  * qswz has 4G and is fine
[13:49] <qswz> your cpu or disk could be slow too
[13:55] <kristhian> who here uses noVNC?
[13:59] <sadtaco-remote> Is there a way to downgrade from 17.04 to 16.04?  I'm having issues but invested so much that I don't want to just reinstall fresh
[14:00] <Jack_Sparrow__> What issues
[14:00] <deww> sadtaco-remote: i've never tried it myself, but from the way you wrote that, i suspect you didn't backup before upgrading. Again, I never tried this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DowngradeHowto
[14:01] <sadtaco-remote> i need to build something ethereum related and it's made for 15.10-16.04.  libcryptopp-dev is replaced with libcrypto++-dev, for example
[14:01] <sadtaco-remote> deww, never upgraded. Fresh install
[14:02] <leftyfb> sadtaco-remote: run it in a container running 16.04
[14:02] <deww> ah
[14:02] <sadtaco-remote> haha
[14:02] <Jack_Sparrow__> I always install fresh, but I have /home on a spare partition
[14:04] <PipeItToDevNull> I would agree with leftyfb , just use a VM
[14:04] <leftyfb> not a VM
[14:04] <leftyfb> a container
[14:06] <sadtaco-remote> https://pastebin.mozilla.org/9024595 here is the conflict I'm getting
[14:06] <sadtaco-remote> This was after installing a .deb of libcryptopp-dev
[14:07] <Ran__> Hi there, I'm trying to instal ubuntu server 16.04.2 LTS and for some reason after the installation is done it boots to GRUB command shell.
[14:07] <Ran__> Any ideas on how can I get it to auto-boot the OS?
[14:08] <a1exas> sorry, probably this is very comon issue but maybe someone can point me to the most relevant instruction today of how to set up a distance communication between two ubuntu machines
[14:08] <a1exas> I am interested in graphical GUI access to them as my knowledge of a terminal is still very limited
[14:08] <a1exas> I am also want it to be secure enough, and oh yes both machines have an dinamic public ip addresses
[14:10] <leftyfb> a1exas: teamviewer.com
[14:11] <a1exas> leftyfb: oh and I don't want to use any external software for that, I want to minimize any proxy between the two machine, or other adversaries
[14:11] <leftyfb> a1exas: VNC + poking holes in firewalls
[14:11] <hateball> VNC by itself isnt secure, tunnel it over SSH
[14:12] <leftyfb> a1exas: or VNC + ssh/VPN tunnels
[14:12] <a1exas> leftyfb: fell this is a broad recommendation, can you took me down to any specific example of how I should set it up?
[14:12] <leftyfb> a1exas: but you did say no "terminal". But that severely limits your functionality/security beyond a 3rd party tool that does it all for you
[14:13] <Southern_Gentlem> vnc over ssh
[14:13] <Jack_Sparrow__> xrdp?
[14:13] <leftyfb> a1exas: remmina vnc client allows you to specify SSH credentials to tunnel over ssh
[14:14] <leftyfb> a1exas: you'll need to poke a hole in your firewall at the remote location to allow for ssh
[14:14] <leftyfb> a1exas: I would suggest using an SSH key and not password authentication
[14:14] <dunga> alexas: vnc + vinagre
[14:14] <leftyfb> I would also suggest installing fail2ban on the machine running ssh to the outside world
[14:15] <a1exas> dunga: is this all (i know vnc included already somehow) is accessible though software centre?
[14:15] <a1exas> leftyfb: what for?
[14:15] <dunga> alexas: vinagre must be in software centre too
[14:15] <leftyfb> a1exas: security. Limit the amount of constant attacks
[14:15] <a1exas> leftyfb: allright, but let me get there first to make the two work together, please
[14:16] <leftyfb> dunga: remmina is installed by default and does VNC over ssh. No need to install vinagre
[14:16] <a1exas> so where should I start exactly?
[14:17] <leftyfb> a1exas: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Configuring
[14:17] <dunga> leftyfb: looks like alexas is sorted. Port forward on the router. Install Fail2ban for security and Bob is your uncle
[14:17] <leftyfb> a1exas: actually, this looks better: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/openssh-server.html
[14:18] <sadtaco-remote> https://pastebin.mozilla.org/9024595 can someone help me with this? I'm trying to install some packages for build dependencies made for 16.04 but I'm on 17.04.  If I install one, it conflicts with the other.
[14:19] <akkonrad> qswz, I don't think that it's CPU - it's not showing any weird usage, only when I'm doing something. And when  I only start all my apps (IDE, Chrome and some more) it should already be ~ 12 GB and it's 3 times less instead.
[14:19] <dunga> sadtaco-remote: sudo apt update && sudo apt install -fy
[14:20] <leftyfb> dunga: that could potentially be dangerous
[14:20] <leftyfb> the -y part
[14:20] <sadtaco-remote> I tried that one already. Same error
[14:20] <sadtaco-remote> without the -y but yeah
[14:20] <leftyfb> sadtaco-remote: post the error to pastebin
[14:20] <sadtaco-remote> I did?  Is there something else I should post?
[14:21] <leftyfb> sadtaco-remote: also, if it's a matter of trying to build against a package that has been replaced, again I suggest to do this in a container
[14:21] <sadtaco-remote> That's the error I get trying to install the requirements pre-build.
[14:21] <sadtaco-remote> do you mean.. build a binary in a container then copy it to 17.04?
[14:21] <leftyfb> sadtaco-remote: sure. Try it
[14:22] <sadtaco-remote> and yes libcryptopp-dev was replaced with libcrypto++-dev
[14:22] <sadtaco-remote> leftyfb, I've never done that and it sounds very involved.
[14:22] <dunga> leftyfb: you are right. I usually do these things after a good backup.  Some error messages do not make much sense to me anyway so I do the y part
[14:23] <leftyfb> sadtaco-remote: sudo apt-get install lxc ; sudo lxc-create -t ubuntu -n somename -- -r xenial
[14:23] <leftyfb> sadtaco-remote: then sudo lxc-start -n somename
[14:24] <leftyfb> sadtaco-remote: sudo lxc-ls --fancy # will list the container, it's status and ip address
[14:24] <sadtaco-remote> just "ubuntu"? Not a specific version?
[14:24] <sadtaco-remote> 'Because I think it needs to be done in 16.04 or earlier
[14:24] <leftyfb> sadtaco-remote: notice the -r for release
[14:24] <sadtaco-remote> ah
[14:26] <dunga> leftyfb: lxc container. I never used that one. When you mentioned container I thought that would be a docker container. Something for me to read about tonight
[14:26] <leftyfb> dunga: docker is based on lxc
[14:26] <leftyfb> well, it used to be
[14:27] <leftyfb> think it's taken on it's own life since then
[14:27] <dunga> Just started docker recently. I reading said they moved away and are now using libcontainer
[14:27] <dunga> You learn something new everyday
[14:27] <sadtaco-remote> and how would i transfer from the container to outside of it?
[14:28] <lifeboy> U 17.04: Scan for a new bluetooth device doesn't show the device (a headset).  I see "org.blueman.Mechanism[902]: Unable to init server: Could not connect: Connection refused" in syslog. How can I fix this please?
[14:28] <leftyfb> sadtaco-remote: scp ... or technically the filesystem is mounted on your system in /var/lib/lxc I think
[14:28] <sadtaco-remote> mkay. So not an image then
[14:29] <lifeboy> I have install both bluez-manager and the default bluetooth applet.  Not even bluetoothctl finds the device. All other devices (mobile phones, other laptops find and pair straight away)
[14:29] <sadtaco-remote> https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/ is there a way to search in here? I need to see what version of cuda it has
[14:30] <leftyfb> huh?
[14:30] <leftyfb> sadtaco-remote: search for what?
[14:30] <sadtaco-remote> A way to search for packages, so I can select the package and hopefully see the version
[14:30] <sadtaco-remote> search on the web rather than apt-cache search
[14:30] <hateball> sadtaco-remote: https://packages.ubuntu.com/ and pick release
[14:30] <sadtaco-remote> and get package details for a given distro repo
[14:30] <hateball> search away
[14:31] <sadtaco-remote> ty
[14:31] <lifeboy> Here's /var/log/syslog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24856992/
[14:33] <KeyJoo> Hi, how to configure Python's module tkinter in Ubuntu?
[14:37] <lifeboy> When I restart the service a few times, sometimes the device shows up
[14:37] <lifeboy> When it does show up, I can't pair with it however.
[14:37] <lifeboy> Then the error is "Failed to pair: org.bluez.Error.ConnectionAttemptFailed"
[14:41] <lifeboy> updated messages: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24857038/
[14:48] <Mrokii> Hello. If I create a new boot-HD-partition manually, how do I set up/install grub on it? Do I need a "bios boot partition" to install grub to, as one tutorial I found says?
[14:51] <cage_raphel> hi there.. i am a newbie to ubuntu.. need some help running updates here. when i run sudp aot-get update i get the following error in the terminal  W: Target Packages (partner/binary-amd64/Packages) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list:48 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/xenial-partner.list:4
[14:51] <cage_raphel> pls help!!
[14:54] <pk64_mobile> I used to package mpv and used libavcodec-ffmpeg-dev, I see that is a transitional package? What do I use in it's place?
[14:55] <pk64_mobile> I have libavcodec-ffmpeg56 built and libavcodec-ffmpeg-extra56
[14:56] <lifeboy> Anybody that can help with a bluetooth connection error when attempting to pair? http://paste.ubuntu.com/24857104/
[14:57] <pk64_mobile> ah ok https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/wily/amd64/libavcodec-ffmpeg-dev/7:2.5.4-1, depends on teh 56 version
[14:59] <en1gma> does the 16.04 LTS release update to 16.04.1 and 16.04.2 when 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade'?
[14:59] <en1gma> i mean when 16.04 LTS and 16.04.2 LTS both perform update and upgrade are they basically identical
[15:08] <Frickelpit> en1gma: yes
[15:10] <Frickelpit> en1gma: only difference so far, when you fresh install 16.04.2, is the Kernel. .2 uses the HWE-Kernel default afaik
[15:21] <ace_me> hi all! I try to install bower on a 12.04 ubuntu and I get a Not a package /tmp/npm-1497452110287/1497452110287-0.11392073426395655/tmp.tgz Err when I am running sudo npm install -g bower,
[15:24] <nacc> ace_me: 12.04 is eol
[15:26] <ace_me> do i have chances to upgrade it ? it weill work ? I have some web sites there
[15:26] <nacc> !eolupgrade | ace_me
[15:27] <nacc> ace_me: if you have web sites on it, you should definitely be more aware of when security issues stop being supported ...
[15:28] <ace_me> ok
[15:28] <ace_me> is a vps nacc
[15:28] <ace_me> upgrade should work from there too I suppose
[15:29] <SuperSeriousCat> Remember to do a snapshot pre update
[15:29] <nacc> ace_me: yeah, it should work fine
[15:44] <sadtaco-remote> leftyfb, well I need to install Nvidia drivers as part of the dependencies to build this package.. and it seems there's a known problem in LXC with that
[15:44] <sadtaco-remote> actually may have found a workaround
[15:53] <fadavi> hello there. there's some problems in status of wpa_supplicant: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24857385/ anyone can help? any same issue?
[16:19] <sadtaco-remote> Hm.. I tried that trick to trick Nvidia driver into thinking there is a monitor for each GPU, because it only allows overclock in its utility for GPUs that are attached to a monitor, by editing xorg.conf. But it didn't seem to work. Did that "exploit" get fixed in newer drivers? ;/
[16:22] <fadavi> hello there. there's some problems in status of wpa_supplicant: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24857385/ anyone can help? any same issue?
[16:27] <stephanlap> Hello guys. rsync is driving me mad. I'm trying to exclude a diretory named "/mnt/old/home", but it just doesn't work. this is what I use: 'sudo rsync --quiet --stats --progress --numeric-ids -a --exclude="/mnt/old/home/" /mnt/old/ /mnt/new.
[16:27] <stephanlap> Any thoughts why this doesn't work as expected?
[16:30] <jje> sadtaco-remote: sudo nvidia-xconfig --enable-all-gpus --cool-bits=28
[16:33] <Jordan_U> stephanlap: '/' in this case signifies the "root of transfer", not the root filesystem. So I believe that the pattern "/mnt/old/home/" would match a file at the absolute path "/mnt/old/mnt/old/home/" for that particular command.
[16:34] <Jordan_U> stephanlap: See the "INCLUDE/EXCLUDE PATTERN RULES" section of the rsync man page.
[16:34] <leftyfb> stephanlap: --exclude=home
[16:40] <sadtaco-remote> hm I'm trying to find that binary I made in the lxc container.  In /var/lib/lxcfs/ I see a number of things but not the disk
[16:42] <stephanlap> Jordan_U, leftyfb: Many thanks! I think this was the problem. I would have never guessed that.
[16:44] <hardrada> Fresh ubuntu installation seems slow. why ?
[16:48] <zuiss1> hardrada: check free memory and cpu
[16:52] <Jordan_U> stephanlap: You're welcome.
[16:53] <lifeboy> I can't get Bluetooth to work on Zesty (17.04) on an Asus Vivobook.  Here are my logs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24857038/
[16:54] <lifeboy> I get Failed to pair: org.bluez.Error.ConnectionAttemptFailed
[16:54] <sadtaco_> I installed 17.04 and it seems very sluggish. On an r5 1500X and 1070. But meh oh well.
[16:55] <hardrada> I just installed ubuntu, but opening programs / folders etc seems to go slow. Why is that?. I got more than good enough pc for it.
[16:55] <lifeboy> I've searched high and low, but can't find much on why this is not working.
[16:58] <sadtaco_> ah i fiigured it out.. i needed to list the dr as sudo in /var/lib/lxc
[17:02] <sadtaco_> hardrada, tbh I think its underlaying desktop environment is slow. That's all I can figure. Or something is wrong with 17
[17:05] <lifeboy> sadtaco, what hardware are you running on.  I run on an i3 Quad core and it purrs like a kitten.
[17:06] <lifeboy> no speed problems whatsoever
[17:07] <lifeboy> Ah, I see, you did say an  R5 1500X
[17:08] <hardrada> Yeah i never had issues with speed on other ubuntu versions. Only this one. strange. Ill be back later. got to check some things out.
[17:17] <sadtaco_> mhm
[17:17] <energizer> How can I fix this apt problem? https://dpaste.de/4fUt/raw
[17:18] <nacc> energizer: what version of ubuntu?
[17:18] <energizer> nacc: 16.10
[17:18] <sadtaco_> Anyway I tried building that genoil miner in a 16.04 lxc container.  The build worked perfectly fine, but then when I try to copy the dependency to my 17.04 host system and run it I get "./ethminer: error while loading shared libraries: libethcore.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[17:18] <nacc> energizer: because presumably you are either using a PPA or mixing releases?
[17:18] <sadtaco_> I tried copying the whole build folder that has that file and such a directory down from it, but still no. I guess it's missing from PATH or something?
[17:18] <nacc> energizer: there is no postgresql-9.6-postgis-2.3 before 17.04
[17:19] <energizer> nacc: yeah there's a ppa
[17:19] <nacc> energizer: PPAs are supported by ppa owners, not here
[17:19] <sadtaco_> If "make -j8" on the container system had added something to PATH, wouldn't that have been returned from the make process?
[17:19] <nacc> sadtaco_: 'copy the dependency'?
[17:20] <sadtaco_> libethcore.so is at "cpp-ethereum/build/libethcore/libethcore.so".  While the make target is "cpp-ethereum/build/ethminer"
[17:20] <sadtaco_> the shared library, not dependency
[17:21] <nacc> sadtaco_: i have no idea what you're trying to do, but it seems wrong
[17:21] <sadtaco_> I could not build it on 17.04...
[17:21] <sadtaco_> others suggested I build it in a 16.04 container and try copying the binary
[17:21] <nacc> sadtaco_: ok, but it's clearly a dynamic (not static) binary
[17:21] <nacc> sadtaco_: so copying it is not sufficient -- you still need to install its dependencies
[17:21] <sadtaco_> well I can't in 17.04 because its dependencies got replaced...
[17:22] <nacc> sadtaco_: then you can't run it in 17.04
[17:22] <nacc> sadtaco_: run it *in* the container. or build it statically
[17:25] <sadtaco_> container can't access the GPUs..
[17:25] <sadtaco_> bah
[17:31] <energizer> nacc: ok now on 16.04 https://dpaste.de/WUXc/raw
[17:31] <sadtaco_> So like.. "make SHARED=0 CC='gcc -static'"?  Eh it says it built some things that "find" doesn't find. and same error after copying the ethminer binary
[17:35] <nacc> energizer: you are installing by glob? (postgresql-9.5-postgis-*)
[17:36] <nacc> sadtaco_: you would need to ask the upstream community if they support static builds and how
[17:36] <nacc> energizer: still using a ppa?
[17:36] <nacc> energizer: it doens't matter where you use the ppa, the ppa is not supported here, but by the ppa owner
[17:37] <energizer> nacc: no ppa
[17:37] <nacc> energizer: e.g., there is no postgresql-9.5-postgis-2.3-scripts in ubuntu
[17:37] <ronitmiester> do empathy works for facebook
[17:38] <energizer> nacc: ok can you help me install postgis of any kind without a ppa on either ubuntu version
[17:39] <nacc> energizer: sudo apt install postgis?
[17:39] <nacc> energizer: dunno, never used it
[17:39] <energizer> nacc:  postgis : Depends: libgdal1i (>= 1.9.0) but it is not installable ......
[17:52] <energizer> can anybody help me install postgis? i get the above error
[17:53] <teward> energizer: when you do `sudo apt-get install -f` does it resolve the dependencies at all?
[17:53] <energizer> teward: no
[17:53] <teward> if not, then what happens when you do `sudo apt-get install libgdal1i` ?
[17:54] <energizer> teward: E: Package 'libgdal1i' has no installation candidate
[17:55] <teward> energizer: what OS?  16.04?  17.04?
[17:55] <energizer> teward: 16.10
[17:57] <muteboy> Hi, I have problems with sound on my Ubuntu/Gnome. Getting sound from videos, music, games, YouTube, but there is no sound/volume indicator in the system tray. Sound section of system settings shows no output or input devices.
[17:57] <muteboy> indicator-sound is already the newest version (12.10.2+16.04.20160406-0ubuntu1).
[17:59] <teward> energizer: the core problem is postgis wherever you're installing it from depends on the *older* version of the gdal libraries, and doesn't have an update.  I don't see an updated version of the packaging either, are you installing postgis by removing the PPAs in question, and then just doing `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install postgis`
[17:59] <xangua> muteboy: gnome shell/desktop does not use indicators, you have to click on the top right icon to show the volume icon
[17:59] <teward> and if that *still* doesn't work, you're out of luck and need to talk to the PostGIS people.
[18:01] <muteboy> xangua: when I do that, there is a volume slider, but no icon next to it. Moving the slider has no effect on the volume of sound.
[18:10] <EleanorEllis> My root partition ran out of space while installing software. I have increased the size of the root partition but now x won't start so the system boots into emergency mode. I have tried booting in recovery mode to run dpkg but dpkg cannot find resolve any repositories. I have tried enabling networking in the recovery menu but this doesn't make any difference.
[18:13] <EleanorEllis> Apologies for posting twice but my post didn't appear in my irc client last time. My root partition ran out of space while installing software. I then increased the size of the root partition but now the system won't start the GUI. I have tried booting into recovery mode and running dpkg to fix broken packages but it can't resolve the addresses of the repositories. I have tried enabling networking in the recovery menu but this makes no di
[18:16] <nacc> energizer: sorry, was afk -- let me try and reproduce
[18:18] <nacc> energizer: in 16.10, postgis does not depend on libgdal1i, as it doesn't exist in 16.10. Again, are you using a PPA or some other resource (note, just not installing the package from the PPA won't be sufficient. you have to purge the PPA from the repository list)
[18:18] <nacc> energizer: in 16.10, postgis depends on libgdal20
[18:20] <BluesKaj> EleanorEllis, you may need to reset the / and /home partitions' mountpoints , but I'm not sure which partitioner gives those options except the ubuntu installer manual partitioning phase
[18:21] <energizer> nacc: "grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | grep post" gives nothing.
[18:21] <nacc> energizer: apt policy postgis in a pastebin, please
[18:24] <Jordan_U> energizer: Did you previously have a ppa installed? Did you purge it with ppa-purge? Just removing its entry is *not* enough as any packages you installed from that ppa will stay installed, unless you uyse ppa-purge.
[18:24] <nacc> Jordan_U: +1
[18:25] <nacc> energizer: fwiw, i spun up a clean 16.10 env and postgis is installing fine
[18:25] <energizer> nacc: i just ppa-purged and may have it working, will soon see
[18:26] <rajivmars> how do i download ‪different themes for ubuntu 16.04?
[18:27] <lotuspsychje> !themes | rajivmars
[18:28] <rajivmars> ubottu, are these themes work with unity?
[18:28] <oerheks> rajivmars, open synaptic, and search for *theme*, tons of them
[18:28] <oerheks> and unity-tweak-tool can be a help too
[18:30] <EleanorEllis> Sorry for posting multiple times. Earlier my chat client was not working properly. My root partition ran out of space while installing software from apt. I have enlarged the partition but now the GUI will not start and the system boots in emergency mode. I have tried booting in recovery mode and running dpkg to fix broken packages but it doesn't resolve the addresses of any repositories. I tried enabling networking in the recovery menu bu
[18:31] <lotuspsychje> EleanorEllis: what ubuntu version are you on?
[18:31] <EleanorEllis> lotuspsychje: 16-04
[18:32] <nacc> EleanorEllis: how did you 'enlarge' the root partition? what tool?
[18:32] <eelstrebor> i disabled the openvpn server on my pc but it still enables the server on a reboot - what i did: mv /etc/init.d/openvpn /etc/init.d/openvpn.disabled
[18:32] <lotuspsychje> EleanorEllis: with an ubuntu usb installer you could re-install and preserve your /home?
[18:32] <nacc> eelstrebor: what version of ubuntu?
[18:32] <eelstrebor> 16.04.02
[18:32] <nacc> eelstrebor: moving that init.d file likely doesn't do anything
[18:32] <nacc> eelstrebor: systemctl disable openvpn
[18:32] <lyciathelycanroc> hello, i was wondering if anyone could help with gamepad problems?... if it isn't too much trouble
[18:32] <nacc> eelstrebor: *with sudo perhaps
[18:32] <Epx998> Is there a guild on netbooting against the full server iso? so we get all the drivers.
[18:32] <lotuspsychje> !ask | lyciathelycanroc
[18:33] <eelstrebor> nacc, i'll giove that a try
[18:33] <EleanorEllis> lotuspsychje: My ubuntu will not write to USB. That is one of the problems I am also trying to fix
[18:33] <energizer> nacc: yeah i think its ok now, thanks for the helping hand
[18:33] <lifeboy> I can't get Bluetooth to work on Zesty (17.04) on an Asus Vivobook.  Here are my logs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24857038/  I get Failed to pair: org.bluez.Error.ConnectionAttemptFailed
[18:33] <EleanorEllis> lotuspsychje: If I reinstall, won't I lose all my packages?
[18:33] <lotuspsychje> EleanorEllis: how did you install in the first place then?
[18:34] <EleanorEllis> lotuspsychje: From a LiveCD
[18:34] <lyciathelycanroc> basically xpad driver seems to read my controller but somewhere it changes to a generic one and doesn't work
[18:34] <Jordan_U> EleanorEllis: How did you enlarge the root partition?
[18:34] <lotuspsychje> EleanorEllis: depends wich option you choose at setup, you can choose install next to ubuntu, to save your /home
[18:35] <lotuspsychje> Epx998: perhaps the #ubuntu-server guys might know that one
[18:35] <EleanorEllis> Jordan_U: I enlarged the root partition with gparted by removing a partition I no longer needed, then resizing the extended partition and the system partition.
[18:36] <Epx998> ah yes ubuntu-server
[18:36] <EleanorEllis> Jordan_U: Of course I did that while running from a LiveCD
[18:39] <EleanorEllis> Jordan_U: Does how I enlarged the partition make much of a difference?
[18:43] <BluesKaj> maybe auto remove and autoclean pperiodically could have helped keep your / partition to a minimum size
[18:44] <Jordan_U> EleanorEllis: Yes, or else I wouldn't have asked. Many people try to change just the partition table without then resizing the filesystem for example.
[18:45] <EleanorEllis> BluesKaj: I have been doing that. The reason it grew so big was that I installed a lot of video editing software at once to try different packages. Yes carelessness, I know. However, that doesn't help me fix the problem.
[18:45] <Jordan_U> EleanorEllis: What partition did you remove? Was that partition listed in your /etc/fstab ?
[18:46] <EleanorEllis> Jordan_U: It was a swap partition. I will just go into fstab now and make sure it has been removed. There is another unrelated partition I need to remove anyway
[18:47] <Jordan_U> EleanorEllis: Failing to mount volumes listed in /etc/fstab will cause you to drop to an emergency shell, so hopefully removing any entries for volumes that no longer exist will allow you to boot normally again.
[18:47] <BluesKaj> EleanorEllis,  think Jordan_U just id'd your problem, missing entries in fstab can really muck up your boot
[18:51] <eelstrebor> nacc, that worked and now i have to find out why the box isn't auto connecting to the router anymore - i think i ran into this issue some time ago so now i have to find out how i fixed it
[18:52] <lyciathelycanroc> basically xpad driver seems to read my controller but somewhere it changes to a generic one and doesn't work, starts calling my afterglow prismatic xbox one a 'logic3', any idea how to get it working?
[18:54] <EleanorEllis> Jordan_U: BluesKaj: I do't think the missing partition was the problem as the currently running ubuntu also has the missing swap partition in fstab and it booted fine. I think the problem is more likely to be broken packages because apt-get couldn't finish properly
[18:54] <EleanorEllis> But for good practice, I have corrected fstab anyway
[18:55] <EleanorEllis> By the way, does noatime make a difference for the swap partition?
[18:56] <akik> EleanorEllis: no
[19:03] <eelstrebor> hmm, lsusb says my yubikey is inserted but the personalization tool can't see it
[19:12] <eelstrebor> nevermind
[19:20] <lyciathelycanroc> basically xpad driver seems to read my controller but somewhere it changes to a generic one and doesn't work, starts calling my afterglow prismatic xbox one a 'logic3', any idea how to get it working?
[19:22] <ppf> lyciathelycanroc: no idea, but have you tried xboxdrv yet?
[19:22] <ppf> xpad never worked well for me
[19:22] <lyciathelycanroc> i tried xboxdrv, no success sadly, xboxdrv hasn't been updated for a long time from what i heard though
[19:40] <MWM> amdgpu-pro is killing me.  http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDGPU-PRO-Install.aspx <-- got to the end of these instructions and a restart before the problems started
[19:40] <elpsy> Anyone ever encountered the apt-get update issues with AWS's repos? "An error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used. GPG error: http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial InRelease: Clearsigned file isn't valid, got 'NODATA' (does the network require authentication?)"
[19:41] <elpsy> I'm considering just removing the repos and adding the default ubuntu ones but I'm not sure if AWS needs their repos for networking/VM management.
[19:41] <MWM> boot times are way up and my rdp client reports that it needs to start a new display.  Then kde5init or krunner crashes right away.  sometimes I get an error about OpenGL 2
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[20:03] <tomreyn> lyciathelycanroc: said driver is still getting updates https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/drivers/input/joystick/xpad.c#L184
[20:03] <tomreyn> maybe your version lacks the device id
[20:06] <lyciathelycanroc> @tomreyn i added a version i found with my controller that supported dkms and it behaves the same
[20:08] <lyciathelycanroc> tomreyn: i added a version i found with my controller that supported dkms and it behaves the same (sorry if it notified twice just realised i wrote it wrong)
[20:12] <leemox> Unfortunately, Windows decided today to remove the Linux partition (this is a family computer and unfortunately one person needs Windows). I'm trying to restore something using TestDisk. Most of all I care about files. TestDisk kind of sees a partition in "Quick search", but in the next step no. I chose "Deeper Search". I would like to make sure I'm doing well.
[20:12] <leemox> https://pastebin.com/QvTAvY8q
[20:17] <merpnderp> Would ubuntu be a good linux to stick on a raspberry pi and just forget about?
[20:18] <merpnderp> Be running a few services and a webserver on an intranet.
[20:18] <Bizzeh> leemox: windows didnt just remove the partition, you, or someone else, removed that partition
[20:18] <tgm4883> merpnderp: no
[20:18] <tgm4883> merpnderp: you should never just "forget about" a webserver on the internet
[20:18] <tgm4883> doesn't matter what the OS is
[20:18] <merpnderp> tgm4883: I said I was running it on an intranet.
[20:19] <tgm4883> oh, my eyes fail at reading apparently :)
[20:19] <merpnderp> tgm4883: And can't I set up automatic updates :)
[20:19] <tgm4883> yea that should work
[20:19] <merpnderp> tgm4883: I'm so concerned about running services on the internet, I just use lambda and google functions
[20:21] <leemox> Bizzeh: No, Windows propably resize his own partition. Big update. Even documents on Windows moved to Windows.old.
[20:27] <stephanlap> Hello. Can somebody help with a problem regarding fstab, a home-folder on a different partition and directory structure?
[20:28] <stephanlap> I am not quite sure I've down it correctly.
[20:28] <Jordan_U> leemox: Windows doesn't just delete partitions automatically, for that matter it wouldn't resize a partition automatically even if there were free space already.
[20:29] <nacc> stephanlap: pastebin your fstab and describe your problem in detail
[20:30] <Krapulat> Hello, OpenSSL in Ubuntu 16.04 doesn’t have the cipher “DES-CBC3-SHA”. Is it possible to add it or do I need to remove the openssl package and install it from source?
[20:31] <Jordan_U> leemox: Please pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l" and "sudo parted -l".
[20:32] <leemox> Jordan_U: Ok, give me 5 minutes.
[20:32] <tomreyn> Krapulat: openssl ciphers lists it on 16.04 lts for me
[20:33] <foist> How can I create a keyboard shortcut that will paste the contents of my clipboard, but append three ` characters to the beginning and end?
[20:33] <Krapulat> tomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24859163/
[20:34] <tomreyn> !info openssl xenial
[20:34] <stephanlap> nacc: Just a moment. It may be a problem of not using chown correctly, not fstab. the problem is this: I used rsync to copy my home-folder to a new partition and also to copied my system-files to another partition. After rebooting I got a black screen when I tried to log in. I thought that, by copying everything, the permission rights were correct. but I got a black screen and tried to use chown to set myself
[20:34] <stephanlap> as the owner of my user-folder (chown stephan:stephan /home/stephan), after which the desktop bootet fine. but I think that only changed the permissions for the folder, not for its contents. Is my assumption correct?
[20:34] <tomreyn> which version do you have there, Krapulat ? dpkg -l openssl
[20:34] <nacc> stephanlap: that's correct, you need to use the -R flag
[20:35] <stephanlap> nacc: Okay, I will try that.
[20:35] <nacc> stephanlap: or rsync with preserve owner,group
[20:35] <Jordan_U> Krapulat: Are you really trying to use Triple DES? If so, why? (It has been broken for a *long* time)
[20:35] <Krapulat> tomreyn: 1.0.2l-0~ubuntu16.04.1+deb.sury.org
[20:36] <stephanlap> nacc: I might have forgotten that, not sure. But I will try chown first.
[20:36] <Krapulat> Jordan_U: Because I have a mail client that uses Outlook 2007 on xp
[20:36] <nacc> Krapulat: that is not an Ubuntu version, that's from ondrej's ppa
[20:36] <tomreyn> Krapulat: you are not using ubuntu's openssl
[20:36] <tgm4883> sounds like a reason to leave outlook 2007 in the dust
[20:37] <nacc> and I would be *really* hesitant to use openssl from a PPA
[20:37] <tomreyn> also xp
[20:37] <nacc> *windows :)
[20:37] <tgm4883> tomreyn: +1
[20:39] <lyciathelycanroc> how ro reply on here? i don't think i done it right
[20:39] <lyciathelycanroc> *to
[20:39] <tgm4883> !who | lyciathelycanroc
[20:40] <leemox> Jordan_U: https://pastebin.com/3Qe82mP1
[20:40] <Krapulat> nacc, tomreyn: Is it no possible to have PHP from ondrej’s ppa and ubuntu’s OpenSSL?
[20:40] <nacc> Krapulat: you'd need to pin correctly
[20:40] <nacc> Krapulat: by default, adding a PPA will use all packages from that PPA, and ondrej's is ahead of ubuntu's
[20:40] <nacc> Krapulat: if i had to guess
[20:41] <tgm4883> Krapulat: Will use the *latest* package
[20:41] <nacc> tgm4883: yes, thanks, sorry!
[20:41] <tgm4883> not necessarily the one from the PPA
[20:41] <tgm4883> :)
[20:41] <tomreyn> lyciathelycanroc: you were responding to me, but i don't really have anoithing to sdd other than wishing you luck. i don't htink i can help you with identifying the controller's hardware IDs, identifying the issue, customizing the driver, building the driver once and building it repeatedly via dkms.
[20:41] <nacc> Krapulat: are you wanting to use php5 on 16.04 or something?
[20:42] <Krapulat> nacc: I use ondrej’s ppa because I need PHP5.6 + PHP7.1
[20:42] <lyciathelycanroc> it's annoying i can't find my gamepad issue anywhere..
[20:43] <nacc> Krapulat: it's possible ondrej's package also depend on his version of openssl, i really don't know. you can try installing the ubuntu openssl of course (sudo apt install openssl=<version>)
[20:44] <Jordan_U> leemox: It looks like the Windows partition has not been resized, which is good because that would have risked overwriting the data in your delted ext4 partition.
[20:46] <Jordan_U> leemox: I'm not entirely clear what the two screens shown in https://pastebin.com/QvTAvY8q represent, but the first looks correct.
[20:48] <Jordan_U> leemox: One thing to look out for is that testdisk may restore partitions with different numbers (or make a large extended partition and throw what are currently primary partitions into it as logical partitions), which could cause problems for both grub and Windows. So after restoring with testdisk, make sure that the existing Windows partitions are still have the same partition numbers.
[20:50] <Krapulat> !info libssl-dev xenial
[20:53] <tomreyn> Krapulat: you could probably just download ondrej's deb-src (apt-get source openssl) and change the makefile os it doesn't drop this cipher suite. the comments above (it is a bad idea to support this cipher suite in 2017, as it was for the past couple of years) still apply.
[21:00] <Krapulat> tomreyn: and then install it from that source?
[21:02] <tomreyn> Krapulat: https://askubuntu.com/questions/28372/how-do-i-get-and-modify-the-source-code-of-packages-installed-through-apt-get
[21:03] <sadtaco> I'm getting a "failed to start xorg server" when I try to log in or something.  Been trying to mess with Nvidia driver settings to get it to think each GPU is attached to a monitor because that's a requirement for overclocking each one.
[21:03] <sadtaco> Doesn't allow you to overclock GPUs that aren't attached to a video output
[21:03] <tomreyn> Krapulat: obviously you'll need to do this whenever the package updates.
[21:06] <Krapulat> tomreyn: ok, thank you
[21:09] <tgm4883> so much extra work to support an unsupported OS and mail client
[21:10] <sadtaco> I really hate to have to buy 16 of these hdmi emulator plugs
[21:10] <sadtaco> sigh
[21:10] <sadtaco> might be better off running windws
[21:11] <sadtaco> I've been googling all day trying to figure out how to fool the nvidia linux driver into thinking there are displays attached. No luck.
[21:12] <tomreyn> Krapulat: i missed to point out that at least in the ubuntu packages (not sure about ondrej's) SSLv3 support is disabled at build time, too (since SSLv3 is broken). and the cipher you are trying to make work is an SSLv3 cipher.
[21:13] <tomreyn> Krapulat: see the 1.0.2g-1ubuntu1 changelog at http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/o/openssl/openssl_1.0.2g-1ubuntu4.6/changelog
[21:14] <dogmatic69_> hi all, I rebooted my pc today and it refused to boot. just a blinking cursor
[21:14] <dogmatic69_> Any ideas?
[21:14] <tomreyn> dogmatic69_: you changed something which made it stop working.
[21:14] <qzo> Did it get stuck on GRUB or after?
[21:14] <dogmatic69_> running recent 16.something
[21:15] <dogmatic69_> tomreyn: I cleared up some docker stuff, not sure if that has done anything.
[21:15] <dogmatic69_> old docker images and volumes
[21:15] <dogmatic69_> no changes to the boot at all
[21:16] <tomreyn> probably not, unless that included your live kernel or overwrote the MBR
[21:16] <dogmatic69_> I can see the whole drive fine in live disk
[21:16] <skizye> do you have a flash drive or something plugged in that it might be trying to boot from?
[21:16] <dogmatic69_> but it wont let me "re-install", says it cant detect any OS
[21:16] <tomreyn> !rescue  | dogmatic69_
[21:17] <dogmatic69_> I have tried recovery mode with no luck
[21:17] <EriC^^> dogmatic69_: type "sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999"
[21:17] <dogmatic69_> where?
[21:17] <EriC^^> in the live session
[21:18] <dogmatic69_> ok, give me 5 to fire it up again. I am on my laptop here.
[21:19] <EriC^^> ok
[21:19] <dogmatic69_> Has to happen the day before my assignment is due :(
[21:25] <dogmatic69_> not sure what is up, now live disk is saying it cant run gfx properly
[21:26] <EriC^^> does ctrl+alt+f1 work?
[21:26] <acresearch> hello people, what is the difference between apt and apt-get?
[21:26] <nacc> acresearch: apt is newer, has a friendlier UI/feel, they are both just frontends to dpkg
[21:26] <nacc> acresearch: use apt preferentially, just to get used to it
[21:27] <acresearch> nacc: i don't use any GUI, so you mean use apt in command line right?
[21:27] <acresearch> nacc: apt for update upgrade and everything else
[21:28] <nacc> acresearch: yes, there is still a 'UI' in the sense of responses, subcommand names, etc
[21:28] <nacc> acresearch: that is UI != GUI
[21:29] <acresearch> nacc: ok i get it thanks you :-)
[21:29] <nacc> acresearch: np
[21:33] <dogmatic69_>  looks like its booting into live this time, fingers crossed...
[21:35] <dogmatic69_> wtf, I clicked try ubuntu and its dropped me into a term session asking for login
[21:35] <dogmatic69_> and now that is gone.
[21:37] <YankDownUnder> dogmatic69_, "can't run gfx properly" - has something changed with your graphics card or settings in BIOS for your graphics card? Changed cables? Moved cables? Just wondering...especially after reading back a bit...
[21:38] <dogmatic69_> nope, I have only unplugged my two disks for raid so they dont get accidenttly wiped.
[21:38] <YankDownUnder> Yeah...that's always a good thing...
[21:38] <dogmatic69_> I dont understand why it has a gfx issue, because its loads up fine and then only fails when I click try
[21:38] <dogmatic69_> and also, it just worked like 20 minutes back.
[21:39] <acresearch> people i have a question: how many people are there who full time directly work on ubuntu?
[21:39] <tomreyn> dogmatic69_: you probably accidentially hit the graphics card while unplugging your disks, and it's not seated properly now.
[21:39] <YankDownUnder> dogmatic69_, You've done a "cold boot" on the machine? Like powering it completely down and letting it sit for a few minutes - and then powering it back up?
[21:39] <dogmatic69_> yes, I have unpluged and booted.
[21:40] <dogmatic69_> tomreyn: doubt it. will try that in a sec
[21:40] <dogmatic69_> the installer loads fine
[21:40] <dogmatic69_> its just the 'try ubuntu' that is failing
[21:41] <tomreyn> !md5
[21:42] <dogmatic69_> like I said, the live boot did work the time before. not sure the dvd could have been modified since.
[21:44] <boboma> hello. Debian update vlc to 2.6.1 a good while ago. When will ubuntu follow?
[21:46] <dogmatic69_> ok, got it working. I think there is a bug in the live disk. go trhough some install steps then exit and it works.
[21:46] <dogmatic69_> will get that pastebin now
[21:46] <nacc> boboma: where do you see this in debian? experimental has 2.2.6-1
[21:47] <dogmatic69_> except the mouse did not load...
[21:49] <boboma> nacc, stretch has it
[21:49] <boboma> nacc, sorry, i see now that it is 2.2.6
[21:49] <boboma> ;( my bad
[21:50] <dogmatic69_> EriC^^: termbin.com/xevr
[21:50] <nacc> boboma: right
[21:50] <boboma> nacc, but 2.2.6 is the recent one
[21:51] <boboma> so why is ubuntu that far behind? It landed in debian 2 weeks ago
[21:51] <causative> I have a problem:  50% of the time when I single click, it registers as a double click.  It's not the mouse (tried different mice, tried changing USB port, tried restarting).  Where should I look next?
[21:51] <nacc> boboma: 2.2.6 is in 17.10
[21:51] <nacc> !latest | boboma
[21:52] <nacc> boboma: also vlc is available as a snap
[21:52] <boboma> i run 17.10 and i have 2.2.4
[21:52] <boboma> how comes you have a different version?
[21:52] <nacc> boboma: do you mean 17.04?
[21:52] <nacc> boboma: 17.10 isn't out yet
[21:52] <boboma> well, right i mean 17.04. Mixing up numbers
[21:53] <Sleaker> just wanted to confirm what shows up on the LTS Enablement stack wiki.
[21:53] <nacc> boboma: yes, that is also not latest, by the same faq
[21:53] <Sleaker> the last kernel revision update for 14.04 is the 14.04.5 release with kernel 4.4 correct?
[21:53] <Sleaker> IE: 18.04 wont get backported.
[21:53] <nacc> Sleaker: correct.
[21:53] <Sleaker> thanks.
[21:53] <boboma> nacc, i see but it's bad anyways. 2.2.4 has security issues
[21:54] <nacc> Sleaker: your terminology is a bit funny, but yeah, that's accurate :)
[21:54] <Sleaker> funny?
[21:54] <Sleaker> how-so
[21:54] <boboma> its a uncool policy that keeps security issues open..
[21:54] <Sleaker> literally the wiki terminology.
[21:54] <nacc> Sleaker: 'kernel revision update'
[21:54] <Sleaker> meh
[21:54] <nacc> boboma: ... file a bug and report is a security issue?
[21:54] <Sleaker> perhaps meant kernel version and just typed odd
[21:55] <nacc> boboma: vlc is in universe, it's community supported, meaning it doesn't get security team updates
[21:55] <Sleaker> version/revision. I use svn too much :_/
[21:55] <boboma> nacc, yes security issues
[21:55] <nacc> boboma: at least, not regular ones
[21:55] <nacc> boboma: use the snap if you want the latest
[21:55] <Jordan_U> leemox: Were you able to restore your partition using testdisk?
[21:55] <boboma> snap is crap. the window decoration is strange and the video is just 1/4 of the size of my screen
[21:56] <nacc> boboma: file a bug with the vlc folks then
[21:56] <nacc> boboma: as I believe they are the ones that create the snap
[21:56] <boboma> i will see what i can do. thx
[21:58] <olspookishmagus> hello, I'm facing various relocation error: /usr/lib/i386-linux/gnu/libapt-pkg.so.5.0: symbol ... version GLIBCXX_3.4.21 not defined in file libstdc++.so.6 with link time reference
[21:58] <olspookishmagus> I can't do almost anything, any advice how to bypass this?
[22:00] <nacc> olspookishmagus: has it always happened? did you try removing/building your own glibc?
[22:03] <olspookishmagus> nacc: nope just did a do-system-upgrade, some trouble with systemd-sysv left the whole remaining chain unconfigured
[22:03] <olspookishmagus> good thing I have dpkg and udisksctl available
[22:04] <nacc> olspookishmagus: so you just did a release upgrade? from what to what?
[22:04] <olspookishmagus> from trusty to zesty :D
[22:05] <nacc> olspookishmagus: yeah that's not supported
[22:05] <nacc> olspookishmagus: and wouldn't have been an option from the do-release-upgrade options
[22:05] <nacc> olspookishmagus: you should go 14.04 -> 16.04 -> 16.10 -> 17.04
[22:05] <olspookishmagus> my arch is: i686 and I'm not seeing i686 packages !?
[22:06] <olspookishmagus> I will try with the i386 package
[22:07] <dogmatic69_> tomreyn: I have tried rescue boot again with the same result, after some normal boot logs I get a cursor and it just blinks endlessly
[22:07] <nacc> olspookishmagus: i686 is (was?) an alias to i386 I think. But the arch on ubuntu packages is i386 (at least since precise)
[22:07] <Jordan_U> olspookishmagus: Such an upgrade is not supported, and the result of such an upgrade won't be supported here either. Re-install (You can even re-install while preserving /home/, even if it's not on a separate partition).
[22:08] <nacc> olspookishmagus: do you really need to be 32-bit?
[22:08] <olspookishmagus> nacc: this is an old old PC
[22:08] <nacc> olspookishmagus: ok, so yes, possibly
[22:08] <olspookishmagus> Jordan_U: ok, so I should take my troubles elsewhere on this matter right?
[22:09] <olspookishmagus> how do I reinstall over?
[22:09] <nacc> olspookishmagus: more than likely your issue is that your install didn't complete successfully
[22:09] <olspookishmagus> download the latest zesty iso, burn, etc etc ?
[22:09] <olspookishmagus> nacc: please refer from discussing the unsupported matters
[22:10] <nacc> olspookishmagus: you're now asking how to install ubuntu?
[22:10] <Jordan_U> olspookishmagus: When you boot the installer it should list re-installing as an option (as opposed to wiping before installing). I don't remember off hand the exact language used for the option.
[22:10] <olspookishmagus> where does apt store it's files to install?
[22:11] <Jordan_U> olspookishmagus: If you boot the LiveUSB into the "Try before installing" mode then you can take screenshots and send them to us if you have any questions. I would recommend Xubuntu or Lubuntu for older machines.
[22:11] <olspookishmagus> /var/cache/apt/...
[22:11] <olspookishmagus> I'm already on Xubuntu
[22:16] <olspookishmagus> atm, had some progress by installing packages found in /var/apt/archives/
[22:16] <olspookishmagus> thanks everyone for your help, looks like I will resolve this
[22:21] <olspookishmagus> if there's a root shell, there will be a way xD
[22:34] <olspookishmagus> after upgrading all apt related packages and libstc++ packages and libc packages
[22:34] <olspookishmagus> I merely did: find /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb -exec dpkg -i "{}" +;
[22:44] <EleanorEllis> I am about to install an updated version of RubyRipper from https://github.com/bleskodev/rubyripper      Is there a way I can do this so that it stays updated when the source changes on github?
[22:45] <oerheks> EleanorEllis, tons of indicators, so you can trigger a new build, like this https://askubuntu.com/questions/321884/is-there-a-git-indicator-to-get-notification-on-commit-pull
[22:47] <EleanorEllis> oerheks: Thanks. That would just be notifications and I would have to build the software manually. Is there a way to automate the build or is that a really bad idea? It strikes me as only the same risk as using a ppa
[22:48] <oerheks> jenkins could do that, dunno if there are more suitable tools. yes, that question pops up in my mind too, do you want automated build/deploi
[22:49] <EleanorEllis> oerheks: Well it's only a single machine and I don't imagine there will be that many updates but the question interested me
[22:50] <EleanorEllis> oerheks: Yes I wanted automated build and installation on my desktop when the source code is updated
[22:50] <Jordan_U> olspookishmagus: For future reference, "dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb" would be exactly equivalent as in both cases it's the shell, not find or dpkg, that is expanding the glob into a list of files.
[22:52] <oerheks> EleanorEllis, jenkins on 16.04 , and the github plugin https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-jenkins-on-ubuntu-16-04 +++ https://www.cloudbees.com/blog/better-integration-between-jenkins-and-github-github-jenkins-plugin
[22:53] <oerheks> not that hard, just don t open ssh to the www
[22:54] <EleanorEllis> oerheks: Thanks
[22:59] <sirru5h> Howdy everyone
[23:39] <bray90820> Is there any way I can turn off Mic input on my bluetooth speaker so I can use A2DP
[23:59] <Swam> I'm completely new at this, and I haven't been able to figure it out. If I boot from a usb, is there any way to access a wireless network?