[00:23] arooni: some of my crons haven't been running either, it's a complete mystery to me but deep inside I blame systemd for no reason. === JanC_ is now known as JanC [00:47] i have a tech support query [00:47] my ubunto laptop and pc both have the same glitch - I will boot and the screen will activate for a moment and then go dark - boot seems to work but screen are blank [00:52] any help here would be hot === andyhuzhill1 is now known as andyhuzhill [00:57] i have a tech support query [00:58] my ubuntu laptop and pc both have the same glitch - i will boot and the screen will activate for a moment and then go dark - boot seems to work but the screens are blank [01:00] Install your video drivers [01:02] kenrin: how? care to elaborate in pM? [01:03] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto [01:06] how can i install video drivers when i cant interface with no screen visibility? [01:06] Do you not get a terminal if you ctrl+alt+f1-5 ? [01:07] I think there is also a vga failsafe you can do but not sure on that [01:12] so I'm wondering about the "force read" mode url what am I doing wrong here (about:reader?url=www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/2017/06/teacher_retirement_deal_includ.html [01:14] how do i do a vga failsafe? [01:18] !nomodeset [01:18] A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter [01:18] Think that is it [01:19] ox1de: For trouble shooting purposes; prior to " vga failsafe " can you not log into the system in console ( at the login screen key combo ctl+alt+F1 ) ? [01:28]

I'm wondering how did Ubuntu bundle lack so many trivial yet very important things! example the suggestion to save opened files when the user decides to close it without making any changes!!! [01:29]

being unable to right click and open the terminal in specific folder if nautilus view is set to list not icon!!! [01:30] Does nautilus not do the same thing in other distros ? [01:30]

how using a simple-scan becomes such a mission impossible task to accomplish!!! [01:31]

kenrin: I recall using it on fedora at least without such inconvenience [01:31] my natilus can open in terminal on list [01:31]

are you on xenial? [01:31] yes [01:32]

that is strange??? how do you do that? [01:32]

ah I got it .. from the buttom side when the folder is not full of items .. that is doable [01:33]

but not when the folder is completely full ... [01:33] you can click on folders and do it too [01:34] ox1de: ^^ Did I loose you ? [01:34]

yes but it will cost me 1 more click [01:34] still here [01:35] right click and open the terminal in specific folder >> install nautilus-actions nautilus-admin [01:35] still trying to solve the glitch [01:35]

on the long run those are billions of clicks [01:35] Why you clicking anyway. I hardly touch my mouse [01:35] ox1de: xtk+alr+F1 doable to gain a console ? Can you login at the console ? [01:36]

actually very minor things but such improvements can make the OS much better one [01:36] loged in- still dark screen [01:36] Li time to install synaptic, more detailed softwarecenter, enough to explore, a distro is just a small set of tools. [01:36] Well, you don't like nautilus then complain to nautilus devs or use another file manager [01:37] I don't see what ubuntu has to do with that [01:37] ox1de: ouch . Now I do not know what to advise . [01:38]

well, for example when you close gedit it forcefully offers you to "close without saving, cancel, save as" then you MUST CLICK one of the given options .. while in Windows you just press N [01:38]

that is just a small example why I should use the mouse Krenair [01:38]

kenrin [01:39]

kenrin: I'm talking about the bundle as a whole, besides I saw nautilus doing fine on Fedora [01:39] Li: again, that's a gedit issue, not ubuntu [01:40] Li: also, if you close and hit ALT+w it will select close without saving [01:40] Li I think you should be in ubuntu discuss, but everyone you have said doesn't even relate to ubuntu [01:40]

no one would say it's a notpad issue not windows when it comes to microsoft. [01:40] s/everyone/everything [01:41] because microsoft makes notepad... [01:41] Li: Microsoft made notepad. It's not open source and it's only available in Microsoft Windows. So yes, it's a Windows/Microsoft problem. Unlike gedit in Ubuntu [01:41]

leftyfb: negative .. alt+w will force the same 3 exact choices [01:41] Li: you are wrong [01:42] Li: open gedit -> type stuff -> ALT+F4 to close -> ALT+w will close without saving [01:42]

leftyfb: I understand it's MS product but also gedit is cannonical choice to add on ubuntu, I'm talking about the whole things as one package [01:43] Li: is there particular issue we can help you with or did you just come here to complain? [01:43]

leftyfb: you made it try twice but I assure it doesn't work without forcing those three mentioned options [01:43]

gedit 3.18.3 here maybe you have something else [01:44]

leftyfb: are you annoyed by my complains? [01:46] Li: multiple people here are annoyed by your complaints. If you need help, ask your question and give details on the issue. Otherwise, file bugs using ubuntu-bug or file bug reports/feature requests on launchpad or the upstream project website. [01:48]

Oh so you even know how others feel about my conversation! good skills, I suggest change your mindset and look to my "non-complaints" as positive productive conversation if someone wants to do something about it. [01:48]

in anyway, you don't need to reply if you don't see the point of what I'm talking about it. [01:48] grab the code, change the keys or behaviour and build your custom gedit [01:49]

maybe someone else not annoyed and would like to share view points with me [01:52] how do you debug high load average? any commands to see what's adding to it? I got a webserver and I wanna see if it's getting bogged down serving pictures or something [01:52] dlam: htop [01:52] dlam: you'll probably need to install it [01:53] hmm yeah i got it already! what part of it do i use? [01:53] dlam: type it [01:53] dlam: http://www.deonsworld.co.za/2012/12/20/understanding-and-using-htop-monitor-system-resources/ [01:54] Probably going to need to dig through apache access logs too [01:54] mod_status is an Apache module which helps to monitor web server load and current httpd connections [01:55] ya ya but I thought load average is more than just cpu and stuff [01:55] ooo mod_status never heard of [01:55] https://www.tecmint.com/monitor-apache-web-server-load-and-page-statistics/ [01:55] yeah my 'htop' is 95% apache2 [02:01] i am still glitched here [02:04] This may be me being bad at scripting... but, I can't seem to run "sudo apt-get update" inside a .sh script. All I get is "E: Invalid operation update" what did I do wrong? [02:05] learnme_: pastebin the script, it's probably a typo of some kind [02:05] learnme_: sudo won't work in a script if it requires you to type a password [02:05] do you guys know of a tool to record you browsing a website and exporting it as a gif / mp4 / mov? [02:05] export* [02:06] leftyfb: yep, I'm aware. I figure I'd get a different error than what I mentioned if that were the case. [02:06] learnme_: it was just my initial perception. Not saying it's the solution [02:07] leftyfb: mk. I appreciate the input [02:07] learnme_: as nacc suggestion, post the script to pastebin for us to take a look [02:08] https://pastebin.com/XTmFgU72 === andyhuzhill1 is now known as andyhuzhill [02:10] learnme_: what version of ubuntu (lsb_release -d) [02:10] learnme_: add -y to install [02:27] nacc: ubuntu 16.04 === Mrokii_ is now known as Mrokii [02:33] learnme_: seems to be working fine in a lxd 16.04 container. does have some interaction (e.g., add-apt-repository, sudo itself the first time) [03:07] i issued a sudo apt autoremove command and there was an [03:07] error: timeout was reached. did i break the system? [03:08] i issued a sudo apt autoremove command and there was an error: timeout was reached. did i break the system? [03:16] i issued a sudo apt autoremove command and there was an error: timeout was reached. did i break the system? [03:22] phiona: What results ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo apt -f install ; sudo dpkg -C ' ? [03:26] Bashing-om: prior to sudo apt remove command, i issued this sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade === r0Oter is now known as r00ter [03:27] phiona: " did i break the system? " ^^ to see . [03:27] and all went well [03:33] Bashing-om: can i issue your command all on one line? [03:35] phiona: While you may . will be best one-at- a-time .. to catch any possible errors the system posts . [03:39] Hi, New Here, Looking for a Linux solution to log/audit NTFS shares (who modified, deleted a file), I don't want to use a Microsoft Solution [03:40] Came: By "ntfs shares" do you mean CIFS shares? If not, what do you mean exactly? What is your end goal? [03:41] I have a Windows file server, with multiple users (on Windows) accessing this server [03:41] I Should say SMB [03:42] Came: It seems to me like a proper log/audit needs to be made from the server hosting the share. [03:44] That's what Microsoft say, but the logs will be huge, I told myself that a Linux server, like Nagios, can grab the data from the windows share server [03:45] I did a new Ubuntu installation and it detected my wifi USB fine but it won't connect to my wifi (I'm sure I entered the password correctly). How can I troubleshoot this? [03:46] :sadtaco iwconfig [03:46] sadtaco: tape iwconfig wlan0 [03:47] Bashing-om: https://paste.ubuntu.com/24854265/ [03:47] phiona: Looking . [03:48] sec [03:51] no such device [03:51] sadtaco: Please pastebin the output of "lsusb" which will tell us the exact model/chipset of your wireless dongle. [03:51] I can't paste it's on another computer with no internet [03:52] i do have a ... wlx.... long name IEEE 802.11 [03:53] Ralink Corporation RT5370 [03:53] Think I need drivers? [03:53] Ohh someone had the same issue [03:53] https://askubuntu.com/questions/163598/how-do-i-install-wireless-drivers-for-ralink-rt5370-offline?rq=1 [03:54] phiona: Looks find to me. If you want to be absolutely sure then run "sudo apt -f install" (which you didn't successfully run due to the ';' before). [03:57] Jordan_U: - phiona - whats up with the " Error: Timeout was reached " any way to get additional info ? [03:57] hello, i may have a serious problem and deleted or formatted the partitions including the partition i created to backup a girl's HD to install ubuntu for her for the first time, this is not looking good for her and she's freaking out on me now [03:59] Bashing-om: the system is also very slow. closing an app seems to take about 30 seconds. [03:59] hi_im_trip: . from a liveDVD(USB) what shows ' parted -l ' . All the partitions still present ? [03:59] i was just trying to install ubuntu on this girl's macbook pro, something i've done literally hundreds of times, and this time by selecting "use lvm" and "completely erase and install" was checked off, but i thought that in the next screen i could choose which partition to it would erase(stupid me), but, even tho when i clicked install now, i immediately clicked go back when it gave a warning saying that by continuing the [03:59] partitions would be erased, now none of the mac hd partitions are visible and she had her dead mother's photos on there (only copy) and many other important files on a backup partition. it was all too fast to have actually written anything to the disks, so i should be able to recover her files yes? [03:59] let me check [04:01] hi_im_trip: Yes. First, if you have a drive larger than the drive you're trying to recover data from then *carefully* use dd or GNU ddrescue to make a full image of the drive. If you do not have a large enough drive, get one. [04:02] hi_im_trip: Most likely you will be able to fix this in a few minutes, but making the image first will take hours. This is still the right way to go. [04:02] failure to communicate with kernel device mapper driver [04:04] Bashing-om: Jordan_U: sudo apt -f install seems to be theres no problem. . im restarting now to see if it runs faster. [04:05] hi_im_trip: After making the backup image of the drive, you can use GParted or testdisk's partition recovery features. I've used testdisk many times and it works great but the UI is aweful and confusing (IMHO). I have no experience with GParted's recovery features, but I assume that the UI is better (see, less chance of making a stupid mistake). [04:05] it also says incompatible libdevmapper (unkwon version) and kernel driver (unknown version) [04:06] Jordan_U, so no chance to use the live usb and gparted to recover? [04:06] hi_im_trip: Unfortunately I cannot help you more tonight. Good luck, and don't due anything hasty. *Slow down* and think carefully so that you don't take a recoverable situation and make it unrecoverable. [04:06] i do have another hd here, but apparently the only other usb port on here doesn't seem to work [04:08] hi_im_trip: There is a very high chance that GParted from the LiveUSB will be able to recover the partitions, but *DO NOT* try to do so without making a full drive image first. [04:08] Okay I'm having trouble installing these RT5370 wifi drivers. I get "recipe for target '_module_/home/z/Downloads/DPO...' failed" [04:09] hi_im_trip: Slow down, do it right. Tell your friend that someone here said that the data is most likely recoverable but that you should be careful and so it may take some time to get it back in the most careful way. [04:09] is starting with _module_ correct? That seems weird [04:10] hi_im_trip: Like maybe wait until tomorrow, when you're not as nervous. I understand that that might be a hard choice for you to make. [04:10] hi_im_trip: I need to leave now, sorry. [04:11] Jordan_U, thanks so much for your help, can you kindly tell me the command to do the drive image, and will it work on the other hd if there is enough space but other files? [04:14] whats up [04:15] the lvm2 pv file system shows up as 464.78GB in size and 464.78GB used and 0.00B unused in gparted [04:15] "You will never get this 2011-era driver to compile on the relatively new 3.16.0-xx kernel." pls no [04:16] https://askubuntu.com/questions/568747/impossible-to-install-ralink-rt5370-driver-on-xubuntu-14-10 I get this same error but doesnt' look like there is a solution [04:17] This was like the top rated usb wifi device on Amazon. I guess I should have looked into it better before buying :/ [04:17] whats the problem with it [04:18] Bashing-om: Jordan_U: ok thanks. im running faster now. [04:18] psychoticwarrior, same problem in the link [04:18] phiona: :) [04:19] Do you guys think if, on a windows laptop, I enable internet sharing, and connect its ethernet to this ubuntu computer whose wifi isn't working, that that would work? Guess I can try and see [04:19] sadtaco try it out [04:19] it may detect it [04:24] yes it worked yay. [04:24] jizzlo [04:24] good job sadtaco [04:24] but i can't apt-get update. It gives some error about lock list [04:25] and I got some error booting about lvm [04:25] check out /etc/apt/sources.list [04:25] let me see if I can get irc running on that PC.. [04:25] kk [04:25] check out software manager [04:25] i think thats what its called [04:27] sadtaco: wait a bit about the lock .. maybe "unattended-upgrades" is running . [04:38] Oh weird apt-get is working now [04:43] are there any good programs for finding files in ubuntu. [04:44] zorbs0ne: 'find' is the tool for that . [04:45] Bashing-om: I'm trying to find htacess. [04:45] htaccess* [04:45] how do i clone a drive with dd? [04:45] huh... now im pretty certain that ubuntu is somehow identifying this USB wifi wrong [04:45] zorbs0ne: ' sudo find / -name htaccess ' . [04:45] the model number with the packing is different [04:46] so is the brand name [04:46] isn't htaccess supposed to start with a dot ? [04:47] rud0lf: ah, missed the dot, thanks. [04:47] Bashing-om: thank you. [04:52] What are some good IRC client options for Ubuntu? I'm not super sold on xchat-gnome [04:52] https://www.amazon.com/Panda-Ultra-150Mbps-Wireless-Adapter/dp/B00762YNMG/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1497415902&sr=1-1&keywords=panda+usb+wifi I got this model.. should it really be saying it's Ralink RT5370? [04:52] ive always used xchat/hexchat [04:53] there's terminal client, irssi [04:54] also chatzilla addon for firefox [04:54] what's the deal with irssi? Why opt for a terminal? [04:56] i don't know how to answer that.. it's small, fast and sufficient [04:57] i use it since i have ubuntu installed [05:02] it's cool, feels kind of like vim but hard to navigate === Jochen_wvdT is now known as Schlawiner [05:11] apparently people with Ubuntu 13 don't have trouble with this device. But with 17.04 I am.. [05:12] scripts/Makefile.build:294: recipe for target '/home/z/Downloads/DPO_RT5572_LinuxSTA_2.6.1.3_20121022/os/linux/../../common/cmm_data.o' failed [05:16] how can i check if it's the device that's not working... or if there is something wrong with my wifi settings? [05:17] With my android phone I can connect to the wifi fine. Just select the network, enter password, done, but.. [05:22] Back after registering [05:23] kool [05:23] how ya doing [05:23] Doing good thank you [05:23] sounds good [05:24] It's been so long that i used irc thanks to official commitments that my nickname was junked :-) [05:25] Anyway , I'm trying to use pnfs on Ubuntu and tried mounting with the following option: -t nfs4 -o minorversion=1 [05:25] And i get error " operation not permitted " [05:26] Any ideas guys [05:30] gurukr18: Are you mounting using sudo? [05:30] I dialed in as root user itself [05:34] Proc/filesystem has nsf4 entry [05:35] And I'm also able to mount the fs as NFS 4 but when i user the minorversion switch i get the error [05:35] Should i specify in a different way [05:35] ? [05:36] apparently my problem with wifi was a bug in 17.04 that randomizes MAC address by default... [06:36] hi, so what ftp client/way do you mrecommand? sftp? ftps? vsftpd? I want to grand access to specific users on specific folders, on apache2. [06:41] ftp client, or ftp server...? [06:41] server [06:42] Maxim__, Ah. Right. I'm old fashioned. I stick with "old stuff"...mostly because it's mature and dependable with heaps of support. [06:43] YankDownUnder: old stuff means vsftpd? [06:43] Maxim__, Yeppers. [06:45] YankDownUnder: I don't quite understand how do I need to create virtual users and how to edit the user files to be: user : chroot-folder ? the man pages don't really specify this [06:45] the chroot folder is NOT the user's home folder /home/user [06:50] Maxim__, https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-vsftpd-for-a-user-s-directory-on-ubuntu-16-04 [07:02] YankDownUnder: ok, but how can I do that user1 will have ftp access and jailroot on folder /var/www/html/website1 ? I can't set the permission on that folder to nobody , also the newly created user's root is /home/user/ and not /var/www.... [07:04] maybe edit /etc/passwd [07:05] hi [07:08] hello [07:08] ThePortWhisperer: hi [07:08] when i was installing ubuntu server it claimed "no default route" was found [07:08] how can i fix this [07:09] give it network settings? [07:09] it's also not getting the static IP it should from the DHCP server [07:11] instead of getting a 172.1.1.0/24 addr it got 172.23.128.0/24 [07:12] sounds like your network is not configured properly then [07:13] Ben64, i guess it's the config of the host only adapter [07:13] i'll check [07:13] hi i bought a gaming controller to play retro nes games, its usb controller lights up and stuff but doesnt work, i tested it with a windows machine and it worked there how can i fix this issue i have no clue what to do as im kinda noob at ubuntu [07:14] * vegombrei Que-Passa ?? [07:15] vegombrei: have ypu tried to configure it? [07:15] *you [07:15] *calibrate [07:15] cristian_c: how do i configure it? i looked in the system settings and theres no option for a controller [07:15] !info jstest-gui [07:15] Package jstest-gui does not exist in zesty [07:16] !info jstest-gtk [07:16] jstest-gtk (source: jstest-gtk): joystick testing and configuration tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1~git20160825-2 (zesty), package size 133 kB, installed size 441 kB (Only available for linux-any) [07:18] vegombrei: ls /dev/js* [07:18] ls: cannot access '/dev/js*': No such file or directory === jackNemrod_ is now known as jackNemrod [07:19] vegombrei: dpkg -l | grep joystick [07:19] vegombrei: is the controller connected to usb port? [07:20] cristian_c: yes [07:20] vegombrei: if you unplug it, plug it back in, then run "dmesg" you should see what /dev it gets assigned [07:21] cristian_c: yeah something happened a huge load of information and numbers [07:21] hateball: what does this mean? shall i pastebin it to ya'll [07:21] !paste | vegombrei [07:21] vegombrei: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [07:22] vegombrei: installing jstest-gtk as cristian_c suggested should pick the device up automatically. but if it doesnt and you need to specify it's good to know what to pick, hence the dmesg thing [07:24] hateball: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24855290/ [07:25] hateball: thanks, what are we looking at here thats a lot of numbers and its completely alien [07:27] there is alsp a github project about to support dragonrise controllers [07:28] well it looks like the kernel supports it just fine, just a matter of configuring it then [07:28] Hello. Can I clone a bootable HD-Partition to a new HD and boot from that? Or do I have to do some adjustments? [07:28] vegombrei: did you install jstest-gtk ? [07:28] cristian_c: whats github? [07:29] hateball: nope, shall i sudo apt-get it? [07:29] hateball: he can also test with sudo evtest, btw [07:29] vegombrei: sudo apt install joystick [07:29] cristian_c: yea, but that's not so new-user-friendly :) [07:29] Hi. I am behind proxy (with authentication). On a fresh installtion. I can use firefox after configuration. But if try to apt-get by export_proxy, it just keeps on trying to connect to .archive.ubuntu. . .I need to use non proxy conection for this first(new install) apt-get update. After that I can do update,upgrade from proxy. How to get the apt-get work initailly? There is no synaptic. Can I use wget to download file, place them a [07:30] vegombrei: oh, and also "sudo apt install jstest-gtk" [07:30] hateball: done .. [07:30] hateball: shall i try and see if it works? [07:31] Hey there! [07:31] vegombrei: the application lets you to configure/calibrate the controller [07:32] cristian_c: hmm ok .. so ill try run the retro nes thingy and be right back gimme a moment [07:34] vegombrei: you'll want to actually run jstest-gtk to see if the controller works, and possibly re-calibrate it [07:40] What's the best way to copy a bootable system from on HD to another. The last time I had to reinstall I just made backups of the important prefs and copied them back as needed. But I don't want to have to install all programs manually again and change all preferences by hand. [07:41] Mrokii: from a live session? [07:41] Gattyman: hi [07:41] or the same running system? [07:43] chachasmooth: I have a live CD if needed. I can boot from that and copy the data. I realise that copying data from the HD I have booted with isn't the best idea. [07:43] Got it working by editing visudo [07:43] hateball: it worked, i mean i could calibrate it and stuff however when i start the nes emulator the screen goes blank but theres sound [07:45] cristian_c: I have a live CD if needed. I can boot from that and copy the data. I realise that copying data from the HD I have booted with isn't the best idea. [07:46] chachasmooth: Sorry, I chose the wrong nick. Wasn't meaning to send it to you. [07:53] vegombrei: you should read the nes emulator documentation [07:53] *official [07:54] cristian_c: lol I was just doing that [07:55] cristian_c: i think i gotts install the emulators properly again im going thru a tutorial and following it step by step [07:56] Mrokii: do you want just to clone a single partition? [07:56] Mrokii: You can use something like Clonezilla if you want to make a full clone of a disk or the partitions [07:56] !clonezilla [07:56] hmmm [07:57] cristian_c: Yes, only one partition. Though I'm thinking about transferring the "home"-stuff to another partition, maybe later on, if that's possible afterwards. [07:57] https://askubuntu.com/questions/637130/clone-single-partition-to-empty-disk [07:57] hateball: I think I have a "Parted Magic" CD as well, so I could use that for clining, if that's a viable way. [07:57] JohnP answer [07:58] cristian_c: Thanks, I'll take a look. [07:59] cristian_c: dude theres like a ton of stuff i had not installed im doing it right now [08:02] Mrokii: iirc parted magic has clonezilla on it [08:02] hateball: Ah, okay. I haven't used it for a long time. [08:03] Mrokii: clonezilla is just a nice frontend for partimage/partclone [08:04] hateball: Okay. [08:07] Mrokii: otherwise you can just rsync to your backup location as well, but you'd need to reinstall grub into MBR when restoring if so [08:09] hateball: Okay, thanks. I'll have to investigate that. [08:10] !backup [08:10] There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning [08:10] !cloning | this is more like it [08:10] this is more like it: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can use the !software package "apt-clone" - See also !automate [08:10] ... or not. [08:22] hateball: Thanks, I guess I'll find a good solution among these. :) [08:23] Mrokii: yea it's all dependent on your usecase [08:23] for a simple full system restore clonezilla is nice. but if you want to do individual files etc, then maybe rsync instead. and so on [08:26] I'm more going for a full system restore, but I'll investigate the options further and see what fits best. Thanks again for all the suggestions, hateball and cristian_c. === Swankey is now known as 7JTABDQL5 === jackNemrod_ is now known as jackNemrod === t is now known as Guest68663 === jackNemrod_ is now known as jackNemrod === chrmhoffmann_ is now known as chrmhoffmann [09:07] ubuntu the linux for human beeings: it seems to be to hard for some human beeings, to type 'fsck -y /dev/sda1', even if it is printed on the boot screen :/ === t is now known as Guest21064 === Guest21064 is now known as WeeabooTrash [09:12] you shouldn't type that [09:12] certainly not type it blindly [09:32] hi, This is very strange : when I check with network-manager, I can see 2 times the same SSID : one secured and another one unsecured. When I check with iwlist scan, I see this SSID only as secured...How would you explain this difference ? Could that be a bug in network manager ? [09:32] hello. when I scale any window more than 3 workspaces it freeze redrawing. Is any solution to fix this? [09:51] ikonia what should you do instead? [09:51] hundfred: in what respect ? === rumble is now known as grumble [10:38] Is there seriously no way to undervolt Nvidia cards on Linux? [10:38] hmm [10:38] my Chrome and Chromium [10:39] doesn't display any spaces, for some odd reason [10:39] and numbers look very weird [10:46] SCHAPiE: regardless of website? [11:02] Hi folks [11:06] hello BluesKaj [11:07] is anyway to fix this error when I try to make my window really big: "This window tried to create an absurdly large window " [11:07] hi kbob [11:17] woa I had a filename with an ending space, didn't know it was allowed [11:17] trailing space char [11:17] not mine, but downloaded from some email [11:18] I thought those would be trimmed automatically [11:20] why would they? [11:22] it's evil [11:23] it's just a filename? [11:24] hmm no a folder name [11:24] same difference [11:24] 'Dummy iOS Components ' [11:28] !ping [11:28] pong! [11:29] I am using ubuntu-touch emulator and it freezes if not used for a minute. Any way to prevent this? [11:29] !touch [11:29] Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch . Support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch [11:30] hateball: thank you [11:34] Hi [11:36] I did a "sudo apt-get purge linux-image-x.x.x-x-generic" for the newest kernel because I was unable to autoremove it. Now when I try apt-get upgrade it doesn't install this newest kernel [11:36] I guess I've blocked it. How can I unblock it? [11:38] trying3301: apt-get dist-upgrade [11:39] gulzar I did "apt-get dist-upgrade" and it ends like this:"Calculating upgrade... Done 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded." [11:39] trying3301: if uyou did this afte 'update' , 'upgrade' then you have latest [11:40] trying3301: if you want bleeding edge, then wiki provides the steps [11:41] gulzar when I was performing a routine update+upgrade I got errors and I had to remove the "4.4.0-80-generic" manually. It's not about bleeding edge. Thanks anyway [11:42] Hello Guys, I need little help in installing LAMP stack in my ubuntu. [11:44] Hello again. I'm in the process of setting up my new hard disk (SSD) and have a question about the linux-swap-partition. On my old system-HD, "linuxxswap" is within another partition of type "extended". I wonder if this structure is necessary, as it seems that I can create the swap-partition without using some kind of extended-partition. [11:45] Mrokii: better not to use 'swap' parttion on SSD [11:45] gulzar: I've heard about that but I guess I do need some kind of swap-partition, don't I? [11:46] Mrokii: how much is your RAM? [11:46] 8 GB [11:46] I solved my issue with this:" sudo apt-get install linux-image-4.4.0-80-generic" and rebooting now. [11:46] Mrokii: and you ever felt that 8GB is less for your work? [11:47] Mrokii: then No. Swap is if 'suspend to disk'/ hibernate . And if heavy RAM usage like data analysis or using Chrome( :P) . Else swap is not needed [11:47] gulzar: I'm not sure. On my current HD I do have a swap-partition but I don't know if it ever gets used during regular usage. [11:48] Mrokii: I don't have swap with 8GB ram [11:49] Mrokii: regarding partiton schema. Please open, 'gnome-disk-utility' aka 'disks' and see the line 'Partitioning' after selecting your HDD/SDD [11:50] if that line is GUID then you can have as many primary as you like (practically). IF Master Boot Record then you may need one extended , depending on how many paritions you need [11:50] gulzar: I'm using Kubuntu / KDE Partition Manager at the moment, so the gnome utility isn't installed. [11:50] Mrokii: either, np [11:50] Mrokii: only the info is important [11:50] is it 'MBR' or 'GUID/GPT/EFI' [11:51] or type in terminal 'sudo fdisk -l' [11:52] gulzar: I'm looking for the info in kde partition manager [11:52] Oh, okay, I'll try bash. [11:52] Hello channel -- I would like to install ubuntu on my current Windows 10 machine. I've did a few installations using the "install alongside windows 10" option in the past so I believe I know how to install but here is the thing I need: I want windows 10 to be the default OS on this machine and I do not want to see the OS selection page, however I still would like a way to switch to ubuntu (by restart) on this machine somehow... How sho [11:53] Mia: yes possible, for that need to setup a key shortcut to show GRUB, else hide it all time. In Grub set windows as default [11:53] gulzar: oh I see [11:53] that would be perfect! where can I find more information about this [11:54] gulzar: Wait, I remember that I used GPT when I created the partition scheme. [11:54] If I remember correctly [11:55] was wondering, why do all the package repos in apt use http and not https ? [11:55] gulzar: Yep, it's gpt, have just checked with fdisk [11:55] Mrokii: if GPT then no need of extended. Create as many partitions as you like as 'primary' [11:55] gulzar: Thanks. [11:55] and they actually are http, not the case that they are getting redirected. [11:56] Mrokii: and no swap. If swap needed, then you can use 'swap file' [11:56] while attempting to fsck the drive with suspected errors i have a notice that filesys is mounted and am i really sure, and if i unmount i got the message Permission denied while trying to open /dev/sda5 [11:57] please help solve this problem [11:58] Mia: https://askubuntu.com/questions/785757/how-to-hide-grub-unless-key-is-pressed , can do similar searches online [11:58] a1exas: if running any disk check utility better is to use a live disk to avoid any problem [11:59] a1exas: your question is unclear [11:59] thank you gulzar for all the gelp [11:59] Mia: anytime, enjoy linux [12:00] gulzar: i have been trying to run it from live USB and got the same errors [12:00] gulzar: so I will try to rephrase it for you [12:00] Hi, I have problems with sound on my Ubuntu/Gnome. Getting sound from videos, music, games, YouTube, but there is no sound/volume indicator in the system tray. Sound section of system settings shows no output or input devices. [12:00] gulzar: Okay, thanks. I'll go without a swap partition for now and see how it goes. [12:00] gulzar: i need to check a filesystem of a linux disk and if i try it say that it is mounted or if i umnount it if say i don't have permission [12:01] gulzar: doest my answer make it more clear for you now? [12:01] a1exas: from live, don't open any partition. Just boot to live and do the checking, don't open file manager [12:01] hi, i tried to install ubuntu 17.07 on dell xps 15 9560. I made a bootable use drive, it is able to boot, but there is no GUI at all, black screen. [12:01] a1exas: you may 'sudo umount' and not just umount [12:01] gulzar: how is that? do you have any step by step instructions in mind? [12:01] more detail here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/924610/how-to-install-ubuntu-16-04-on-xps-15-9560 [12:02] a1exas: which tool to fsck? [12:02] guzlar: well this disc is not where system is installed, is this still a necessity to boot from live usb or not? [12:02] a1exas: then no [12:03] gulzar: i don't understand sorry, what is a 'tool to fsck' ? what do you mean by that [12:03] a1exas: you can check from running system [12:03] gulzar: ok so i first do sudo unmount /dev/sda5 or whatever else id this drive has right? [12:04] a1exas: which command are you using for fsck? [12:04] a1exas: yes if not in use, then umount it [12:04] gulzar: my limited experience tells me to use fsck -A or whatever [12:04] a1exas: Ah ok [12:04] gulzar: general file errors check [12:05] gulzar: i have a damaged files stored there i suspect it can solve it perhaps [12:05] sudo: unmount: command not found [12:05] hm [12:05] umount [12:05] ? [12:05] oops [12:06] umount [12:06] a1exas: yes, it's "umount". [12:06] thanks [12:06] yw. [12:06] a1exas: done? [12:07] yes [12:07] 0x41: Dirty bit is set. Fs was not properly unmounted and some data may be corrupt. [12:07] 1) Remove dirty bit [12:07] 2) No action [12:07] what is better? i believe 1 but i have no knowledge [12:07] a1exas: now this depends on you, I can't tell anything. In my case I had .trash from Mac so I removed it. I have no idea bout your data [12:08] gulzar: i have an acronis .tib archive stored there which became 'corrupted' [12:08] a1exas: which partition is that? ext4/ntfs/fat ? [12:08] ext4 but it was ntfs [12:08] ubuntu installer converted it [12:08] than i got an issue with freezing [12:09] so i have a lot of hard reboots in between [12:09] a1exas: how you installed it? whcih option selected? 'alongside windows' ? [12:10] gulzar: i don't remember it clearly now but i remember i split it to two or something, however on that drive it was installed on was some data stored (mainly that archive) which is still there but I have probs because software think it is corrupted) [12:11] any idea which operators I should use for fsck in that case? [12:11] that is what it gives me now, but I believe it wasn't done it's job so to speak [12:11] /dev/sda5: 41087 files, 19896285/32413000 clusters [12:11] a1exas: these things are difficult to help on chat. For now remember, before isntaling, format the partition always. make backup and select 1 [12:12] ok thank you I will try again to see if that what i didi just now was helpful in any way [12:12] thanks again [12:12] a1exas: playing with data can be dangerous, I should have went with '1' [12:19] gulzar: oh i am sorry it says filesystem type: msdos [12:19] in the properties dialogue [12:19]