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jbichaduflu: hi, do you want to push your bluez packaging to the bzr branch?03:15
duflujbicha: I can copy it, but the plan is to keep it all in git. Let me find the docs03:16
duflujbicha: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Bluetooth/BluezGit03:16
jbichaok, could you update the Vcs fields in debian/control the next time you upload?03:16
dufluotp...03:16
jbichaduflu: have you used git-buildpackage before?03:18
dufluon the phone03:18
jbichalol03:18
jbichaoh…03:19
duflujbicha: Sorry. Too many people want my attention simultaneously....03:19
duflujbicha: Yeah I didn't want to update the official URL in case the main bluez maintainer didn't like it03:19
dufluSo it is "proposed"03:20
jbichaI thought *you* were the bluez maintainer :)03:21
jbichaso have you used gbp and have you seen http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep14/ ?03:21
duflujbicha: Nope, but noted thanks03:22
jbichagbp is pretty popular in Debian03:22
duflujbicha: Sounds pretty similar. So that's good.03:25
jbichayou can do 'gbp import-orig' for instance03:25
duflujbicha: I'm a purist though, so would lean toward plain git commands (it's complicated enough already). I'm not saying no, but also not thinking about it today03:26
dufluTrevinho: Are you around? (and if so in what country?! :)03:39
Trevinhoduflu: yes...03:39
Trevinhoduflu: although I'm in Italy :-D03:39
dufluHah. Jet lag03:39
Trevinhoand no, it's not jatlag...03:39
dufluOK, you're just crazy. I knew that03:39
TrevinhoI was synced, just... Some night hacking that didn't end so well :|03:39
Trevinho:-)03:40
dufluTrevinho: Any thoughts on https://code.launchpad.net/~vanvugt/ubuntu-themes/fix-1693613/+merge/325369 ?03:40
Trevinhoand escaping strings around03:40
Trevinhoduflu: yeah, i saw it... I've not tested it, but it looks right from the source03:40
TrevinhoI'll check it ASAP03:40
oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers05:53
didrocksgood morning06:19
willcookemorning all07:59
willcookeor afternoon07:59
didrockshey willcooke08:00
willcookeHow goes didrocks?08:00
willcookeIs the sun out?08:00
didrockswillcooke: yeah, crazy night with lightning strokes and heavy rain, but all sunny and blue sky today08:01
didrockshow about you?08:01
willcookeOoh, lucky!  No such fun here.  chrisccoulson will be annoyed that he missed out :)08:01
willcookeLooks like it's going to be a nice day today, but quite windy still08:02
Laneytag08:03
willcookewhat is up Laney08:03
didrockshey hey Laney08:03
Laneythe great nob debate rumbles on08:04
LaneyoSoMoN: no, unless you want to be Wrong™08:04
willcookeah ha, speaking of which...08:04
Laneyhey didrocks, hey willcooke ;-)08:04
Laneyhow's it going?08:04
willcookehttp://www.nhaines.com/blog/2017/06/01/looking-ubuntu-1710-wallpapers-right-now/08:05
willcookeerr08:05
didrocksgood good! yourself?08:05
willcookewrong link08:05
willcookehttps://twitter.com/ProfBrianCox/status/87504269084035481908:05
willcookeright link ^08:05
didrocks;)08:05
Laneyargh08:05
Laneynot a good face to see in the morning08:05
willcookeXD08:05
chrisccoulsondidrocks, willcooke, yeah, I'm jealous about the lightning :)08:30
chrisccoulsonI had to get the sprinkler out yesterday08:32
* Laney should go water the allotment today08:34
didrockshow warm is it?08:36
didrocksand how far is your allotment btw?08:36
Laneynot super hot, should be about 20 later08:37
Laneybut hasn't rained for a few days08:37
Laneyit's about 10 minutes on the bike08:37
Laneymaybe slightly less08:37
didrocksoh, still a little bit far from your home08:37
Laneythe one 2 minutes down the road is full :'(08:39
didrockshow does it work, you just rent, or is it some kind of getting selected process?08:40
Laneyyou get on a waiting list08:42
Laneyand then when a space comes you get offered it08:42
didrocksthat's nice08:42
Laneyi think it's like £40 a year08:43
Laneyquite cheap08:43
didrocksindeed, definitively worth it08:44
seb128back08:52
willcookehey seb128, how was the space?08:52
seb128willcooke, it's nice, I'm staying here for the day08:52
willcookenice!08:52
seb128it's quite big08:53
seb128they have quiet space, "normal" space with coffee and quiet music in the back, meeting rooms to book or a few small "first arrived, first served" ones08:53
seb128special quiet seat with high back for videocalls08:54
Laneyhey seb12808:54
Laneysounds good!08:54
Laneyis it near enough to your place?08:56
seb128it's like 20 min door to door08:56
seb128I'm probably too lazy to go every day, but it's not too bad08:57
seb128sounds good for 2 or 3 times a week08:57
Laneynod08:57
andyrockgood morning09:16
willcookehey andyrock09:27
flexiondotorgMorning desktopers09:28
oSoMoNhey flexiondotorg09:28
oSoMoNhey andyrock09:28
seb128hey andyrock09:29
willcookeseb128, Laney - just chatting to jibel about the first testing day - do you think we should wait for gdm?  Any ideas when that will happen?09:39
seb128blocked on security so no idea09:39
willcookeseb128, ack, thx09:40
seb128yw09:40
seb128dropping offline for a bit to grab lunch09:41
seb128bbiab09:41
willcookehttp://www.techrepublic.com/article/ubuntu-17-10-finally-an-exciting-ubuntu-release/09:49
willcookeSome factual mistakes, but positive none the less ^09:49
Laneyhaha09:52
Laneycould have asked for a fact check09:53
Laneystill, nice enough09:53
darkxsthey desktoppers09:53
willcookehey darkxst09:58
* willcooke -> errunds bbl09:58
darkxstanyone heading to GUADEC? I should be ;)09:59
Laneydarkxst: yeh, some of us are10:47
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jbichaLaney: I'm leaving the config-connectivity pkg out of this first NM 1.8 upload to not get the update stuck in the new queue12:06
jbichait's not too hard to test the feature without the package though12:07
seb128jbicha, hey, thanks for the nm 1.8 merge!12:12
jbichawell I rebooted and my wifi still worked so hopefully I didn't break anything ;)12:14
seb128hehe12:14
willcookethanks jbicha12:16
jbichaxnox: what do you think of phase 1 from LP: #1695928 ?12:19
ubot5Launchpad bug 1695928 in gnome-control-center-signon (Ubuntu) "Please remove obsolete UOA packages" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/169592812:19
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Laneyjbicha: what's wrong with the new queue?13:32
Laneyqueuebot says it went in there anyway ...13:33
jbichaI think it's a bit controversial whether we want a Debian config-connectivity package in Ubuntu13:33
jbichaif there is one, my understanding is that it should point to Ubuntu/Canonical servers13:34
LaneyI don't think I can be bothered to argue about it13:34
Laneyso, whatever13:34
jbichame either, but the new queue is a good opportunity for someone to say "wait, no"13:35
Laneyso then we'd discuss it with them if that happened13:36
* Laney shrugs13:36
Laneyyou did what you did, that's it, let's move on13:36
Laneythanks for doing it13:36
jbichamaybe we can do that after 1.8 gets in to artful; I'd hate to have it stuck in the new queue because of that question13:37
seb128jbicha, did you use a vcs to do the n-m update?13:37
jbichaseb128: yes, but…13:38
seb128which one?13:38
seb128(just curious, and I'm in an hangout where people are discussion what vcs to use to maintain n-m, if we want to keep using gbp)13:38
jbichahttps://git.launchpad.net/network-manager/log/?h=artful13:38
jbichawhy would we *not* want to use gbp13:39
willcookejbicha, are you free for a hangout real quick?  on n-m 1.813:39
jbichathe "but" is because I branched "master" to "zesty" and force pushed "master" and "upstream" and "pristine-tar" from Debian, and then made an artful branch13:40
seb128jbicha, the n-m upload is in New?13:41
jbichayes13:41
seb128I though you said you let the connectivity out to avoid New13:41
seb128I probably misread what you said13:41
jbichathe connectivity package could be controversial, the new gir package is not13:41
LaneyIt got accepted.13:41
seb128oh ok13:42
LaneyIt could have been re-uploaded it somebody insisited on rejecting a new not-installed-by-default package containing a configuration file.13:42
Laneyoops, I said let's move on13:42
Laney:-)13:42
jbichawillcooke: I would need more notice for video chat, sorry13:42
seb128woot, responsive archive admins doing NEW reviews13:42
willcookejbicha, np at all.  I'll catch up with you later and see if you're free next week around this time?13:42
jbichayes, just let me know the time in advance :)13:43
willcookecheers jbicha13:43
tsimonq2Hello :)14:21
tsimonq2What's left in the archive for Unity 8 things that depend on Qt, i.e. things we should be concerned about if wanting to do a Qt transition?14:21
seb128tsimonq2, looks at the lib you want to transition rdepends?14:25
tsimonq2seb128: I don't understand what you're saying?14:26
tsimonq2I'm working to get Qt 5.9 in the archive.14:26
tsimonq2I wanted to know if there's anything I should watch out for before this lands14:27
tsimonq2(we're going to rebuild in a PPA first, but still)14:27
seb128tsimonq2, use rmadison or such to know what is using the librarie you are transitionning14:27
tsimonq2seb128: On it.14:28
gQuigstsimonq2:  relevant bug ^ https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center-signon/+bug/1695928 ..  (what's on it's way out)14:28
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1695928 in gnome-control-center-signon (Ubuntu) "Please remove obsolete UOA packages" [Undecided,New]14:28
tsimonq2Oh, thank you.14:29
tsimonq2gQuigs: You know if we have a status update on that at all?14:30
tsimonq2(nothing in the bug)14:30
seb128tsimonq2, I mean the archive is public you can look at the rdepends yourself without asking here14:30
tsimonq2seb128: I was just looking for something just like gQuigs gave14:31
tsimonq2But you're right, seb12814:31
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davidcallewillcooke: hey, remember our chat the other day? Suddenly snap:// links work from insights.ubuntu.com, are you aware of any recent change that could explain it?15:32
willcookedavidcalle, yeah, I totally fixed it15:33
willcookedavidcalle, lies!15:33
davidcalleAhahaha15:33
willcookegald it works, that's great news.  Maybe Thibaut had it fixed?15:33
davidcalleNo, because it doesn't work for at least one other person in Marketing15:34
davidcalleIf you can give it a try, there is a link on the word "vectr" in the install instructions there: https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/06/13/vectr-a-fresh-take-on-vector-graphics-edition-on-linux/15:34
willcookedavidcalle, testing15:36
willcookedavidcalle, http://imgur.com/a/rijs815:37
willcookeboom!15:37
davidcalleMagical code fairies15:37
davidcallethanks for confirming :)15:38
willcookeyw15:38
willcookewoo, finishing on time today!  Night all17:04
* oSoMoN EOD, have a good evening everyone!17:45
flexiondotorgjbicha Could you take a look at this for me please?19:47
flexiondotorghttps://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/06/13/vectr-a-fresh-take-on-vector-graphics-edition-on-linux/19:47
flexiondotorgDamn19:47
flexiondotorgWrong URL.19:48
flexiondotorgjbicha This one - https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mate-dev/indicator-session/mate-integration/+merge/32560019:48
flexiondotorgI saw you'd recently made a change an uploaded.19:48
jbichaflexiondotorg: could you use bileto for it? also, I don't think the added suggests there are useful20:29
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muktupavelsflexiondotorg: have_mate_program does not follow code style... also you can probably store is_mate somewhere so you dont have to repeat same check multiple times?21:32
robert_ancellhttps://stackoverflow.blog/2017/06/15/developers-use-spaces-make-money-use-tabs/23:00
robert_ancellFor all you tab loving developers out there, repent!23:01

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