[03:15] <jbicha> duflu: hi, do you want to push your bluez packaging to the bzr branch?
[03:16] <duflu> jbicha: I can copy it, but the plan is to keep it all in git. Let me find the docs
[03:16] <duflu> jbicha: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Bluetooth/BluezGit
[03:16] <jbicha> ok, could you update the Vcs fields in debian/control the next time you upload?
[03:16] <duflu> otp...
[03:18] <jbicha> duflu: have you used git-buildpackage before?
[03:18] <duflu> on the phone
[03:18] <jbicha> lol
[03:19] <jbicha> oh…
[03:19] <duflu> jbicha: Sorry. Too many people want my attention simultaneously....
[03:19] <duflu> jbicha: Yeah I didn't want to update the official URL in case the main bluez maintainer didn't like it
[03:20] <duflu> So it is "proposed"
[03:21] <jbicha> I thought *you* were the bluez maintainer :)
[03:21] <jbicha> so have you used gbp and have you seen http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep14/ ?
[03:22] <duflu> jbicha: Nope, but noted thanks
[03:22] <jbicha> gbp is pretty popular in Debian
[03:25] <duflu> jbicha: Sounds pretty similar. So that's good.
[03:25] <jbicha> you can do 'gbp import-orig' for instance
[03:26] <duflu> jbicha: I'm a purist though, so would lean toward plain git commands (it's complicated enough already). I'm not saying no, but also not thinking about it today
[03:39] <duflu> Trevinho: Are you around? (and if so in what country?! :)
[03:39] <Trevinho> duflu: yes...
[03:39] <Trevinho> duflu: although I'm in Italy :-D
[03:39] <duflu> Hah. Jet lag
[03:39] <Trevinho> and no, it's not jatlag...
[03:39] <duflu> OK, you're just crazy. I knew that
[03:39] <Trevinho> I was synced, just... Some night hacking that didn't end so well :|
[03:40] <Trevinho> :-)
[03:40] <duflu> Trevinho: Any thoughts on https://code.launchpad.net/~vanvugt/ubuntu-themes/fix-1693613/+merge/325369 ?
[03:40] <Trevinho> and escaping strings around
[03:40] <Trevinho> duflu: yeah, i saw it... I've not tested it, but it looks right from the source
[03:40] <Trevinho> I'll check it ASAP
[05:53] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[06:19] <didrocks> good morning
[07:59] <willcooke> morning all
[07:59] <willcooke> or afternoon
[08:00] <didrocks> hey willcooke
[08:00] <willcooke> How goes didrocks?
[08:00] <willcooke> Is the sun out?
[08:01] <didrocks> willcooke: yeah, crazy night with lightning strokes and heavy rain, but all sunny and blue sky today
[08:01] <didrocks> how about you?
[08:01] <willcooke> Ooh, lucky!  No such fun here.  chrisccoulson will be annoyed that he missed out :)
[08:02] <willcooke> Looks like it's going to be a nice day today, but quite windy still
[08:03] <Laney> tag
[08:03] <willcooke> what is up Laney
[08:03] <didrocks> hey hey Laney
[08:04] <Laney> the great nob debate rumbles on
[08:04] <Laney> oSoMoN: no, unless you want to be Wrong™
[08:04] <willcooke> ah ha, speaking of which...
[08:04] <Laney> hey didrocks, hey willcooke ;-)
[08:04] <Laney> how's it going?
[08:05] <willcooke> http://www.nhaines.com/blog/2017/06/01/looking-ubuntu-1710-wallpapers-right-now/
[08:05] <willcooke> err
[08:05] <didrocks> good good! yourself?
[08:05] <willcooke> wrong link
[08:05] <willcooke> https://twitter.com/ProfBrianCox/status/875042690840354819
[08:05] <willcooke> right link ^
[08:05] <didrocks> ;)
[08:05] <Laney> argh
[08:05] <Laney> not a good face to see in the morning
[08:05] <willcooke> XD
[08:30] <chrisccoulson> didrocks, willcooke, yeah, I'm jealous about the lightning :)
[08:32] <chrisccoulson> I had to get the sprinkler out yesterday
[08:34]  * Laney should go water the allotment today
[08:36] <didrocks> how warm is it?
[08:36] <didrocks> and how far is your allotment btw?
[08:37] <Laney> not super hot, should be about 20 later
[08:37] <Laney> but hasn't rained for a few days
[08:37] <Laney> it's about 10 minutes on the bike
[08:37] <Laney> maybe slightly less
[08:37] <didrocks> oh, still a little bit far from your home
[08:39] <Laney> the one 2 minutes down the road is full :'(
[08:40] <didrocks> how does it work, you just rent, or is it some kind of getting selected process?
[08:42] <Laney> you get on a waiting list
[08:42] <Laney> and then when a space comes you get offered it
[08:42] <didrocks> that's nice
[08:43] <Laney> i think it's like £40 a year
[08:43] <Laney> quite cheap
[08:44] <didrocks> indeed, definitively worth it
[08:52] <seb128> back
[08:52] <willcooke> hey seb128, how was the space?
[08:52] <seb128> willcooke, it's nice, I'm staying here for the day
[08:52] <willcooke> nice!
[08:53] <seb128> it's quite big
[08:53] <seb128> they have quiet space, "normal" space with coffee and quiet music in the back, meeting rooms to book or a few small "first arrived, first served" ones
[08:54] <seb128> special quiet seat with high back for videocalls
[08:54] <Laney> hey seb128
[08:54] <Laney> sounds good!
[08:56] <Laney> is it near enough to your place?
[08:56] <seb128> it's like 20 min door to door
[08:57] <seb128> I'm probably too lazy to go every day, but it's not too bad
[08:57] <seb128> sounds good for 2 or 3 times a week
[08:57] <Laney> nod
[09:16] <andyrock> good morning
[09:27] <willcooke> hey andyrock
[09:28] <flexiondotorg> Morning desktopers
[09:28] <oSoMoN> hey flexiondotorg
[09:28] <oSoMoN> hey andyrock
[09:29] <seb128> hey andyrock
[09:39] <willcooke> seb128, Laney - just chatting to jibel about the first testing day - do you think we should wait for gdm?  Any ideas when that will happen?
[09:39] <seb128> blocked on security so no idea
[09:40] <willcooke> seb128, ack, thx
[09:40] <seb128> yw
[09:41] <seb128> dropping offline for a bit to grab lunch
[09:41] <seb128> bbiab
[09:49] <willcooke> http://www.techrepublic.com/article/ubuntu-17-10-finally-an-exciting-ubuntu-release/
[09:49] <willcooke> Some factual mistakes, but positive none the less ^
[09:52] <Laney> haha
[09:53] <Laney> could have asked for a fact check
[09:53] <Laney> still, nice enough
[09:53] <darkxst> hey desktoppers
[09:58] <willcooke> hey darkxst
[09:58]  * willcooke -> errunds bbl
[09:59] <darkxst> anyone heading to GUADEC? I should be ;)
[10:47] <Laney> darkxst: yeh, some of us are
[12:06] <jbicha> Laney: I'm leaving the config-connectivity pkg out of this first NM 1.8 upload to not get the update stuck in the new queue
[12:07] <jbicha> it's not too hard to test the feature without the package though
[12:12] <seb128> jbicha, hey, thanks for the nm 1.8 merge!
[12:14] <jbicha> well I rebooted and my wifi still worked so hopefully I didn't break anything ;)
[12:14] <seb128> hehe
[12:16] <willcooke> thanks jbicha
[12:19] <jbicha> xnox: what do you think of phase 1 from LP: #1695928 ?
[13:32] <Laney> jbicha: what's wrong with the new queue?
[13:33] <Laney> queuebot says it went in there anyway ...
[13:33] <jbicha> I think it's a bit controversial whether we want a Debian config-connectivity package in Ubuntu
[13:34] <jbicha> if there is one, my understanding is that it should point to Ubuntu/Canonical servers
[13:34] <Laney> I don't think I can be bothered to argue about it
[13:34] <Laney> so, whatever
[13:35] <jbicha> me either, but the new queue is a good opportunity for someone to say "wait, no"
[13:36] <Laney> so then we'd discuss it with them if that happened
[13:36]  * Laney shrugs
[13:36] <Laney> you did what you did, that's it, let's move on
[13:36] <Laney> thanks for doing it
[13:37] <jbicha> maybe we can do that after 1.8 gets in to artful; I'd hate to have it stuck in the new queue because of that question
[13:37] <seb128> jbicha, did you use a vcs to do the n-m update?
[13:38] <jbicha> seb128: yes, but…
[13:38] <seb128> which one?
[13:38] <seb128> (just curious, and I'm in an hangout where people are discussion what vcs to use to maintain n-m, if we want to keep using gbp)
[13:38] <jbicha> https://git.launchpad.net/network-manager/log/?h=artful
[13:39] <jbicha> why would we *not* want to use gbp
[13:39] <willcooke> jbicha, are you free for a hangout real quick?  on n-m 1.8
[13:40] <jbicha> the "but" is because I branched "master" to "zesty" and force pushed "master" and "upstream" and "pristine-tar" from Debian, and then made an artful branch
[13:41] <seb128> jbicha, the n-m upload is in New?
[13:41] <jbicha> yes
[13:41] <seb128> I though you said you let the connectivity out to avoid New
[13:41] <seb128> I probably misread what you said
[13:41] <jbicha> the connectivity package could be controversial, the new gir package is not
[13:41] <Laney> It got accepted.
[13:42] <seb128> oh ok
[13:42] <Laney> It could have been re-uploaded it somebody insisited on rejecting a new not-installed-by-default package containing a configuration file.
[13:42] <Laney> oops, I said let's move on
[13:42] <Laney> :-)
[13:42] <jbicha> willcooke: I would need more notice for video chat, sorry
[13:42] <seb128> woot, responsive archive admins doing NEW reviews
[13:42] <willcooke> jbicha, np at all.  I'll catch up with you later and see if you're free next week around this time?
[13:43] <jbicha> yes, just let me know the time in advance :)
[13:43] <willcooke> cheers jbicha
[14:21] <tsimonq2> Hello :)
[14:21] <tsimonq2> What's left in the archive for Unity 8 things that depend on Qt, i.e. things we should be concerned about if wanting to do a Qt transition?
[14:25] <seb128> tsimonq2, looks at the lib you want to transition rdepends?
[14:26] <tsimonq2> seb128: I don't understand what you're saying?
[14:26] <tsimonq2> I'm working to get Qt 5.9 in the archive.
[14:27] <tsimonq2> I wanted to know if there's anything I should watch out for before this lands
[14:27] <tsimonq2> (we're going to rebuild in a PPA first, but still)
[14:27] <seb128> tsimonq2, use rmadison or such to know what is using the librarie you are transitionning
[14:28] <tsimonq2> seb128: On it.
[14:28] <gQuigs> tsimonq2:  relevant bug ^ https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center-signon/+bug/1695928 ..  (what's on it's way out)
[14:29] <tsimonq2> Oh, thank you.
[14:30] <tsimonq2> gQuigs: You know if we have a status update on that at all?
[14:30] <tsimonq2> (nothing in the bug)
[14:30] <seb128> tsimonq2, I mean the archive is public you can look at the rdepends yourself without asking here
[14:31] <tsimonq2> seb128: I was just looking for something just like gQuigs gave
[14:31] <tsimonq2> But you're right, seb128
[14:32]  * tsimonq2 exits
[15:32] <davidcalle> willcooke: hey, remember our chat the other day? Suddenly snap:// links work from insights.ubuntu.com, are you aware of any recent change that could explain it?
[15:33] <willcooke> davidcalle, yeah, I totally fixed it
[15:33] <willcooke> davidcalle, lies!
[15:33] <davidcalle> Ahahaha
[15:33] <willcooke> gald it works, that's great news.  Maybe Thibaut had it fixed?
[15:34] <davidcalle> No, because it doesn't work for at least one other person in Marketing
[15:34] <davidcalle> If you can give it a try, there is a link on the word "vectr" in the install instructions there: https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/06/13/vectr-a-fresh-take-on-vector-graphics-edition-on-linux/
[15:36] <willcooke> davidcalle, testing
[15:37] <willcooke> davidcalle, http://imgur.com/a/rijs8
[15:37] <willcooke> boom!
[15:37] <davidcalle> Magical code fairies
[15:38] <davidcalle> thanks for confirming :)
[15:38] <willcooke> yw
[17:04] <willcooke> woo, finishing on time today!  Night all
[17:45]  * oSoMoN EOD, have a good evening everyone!
[19:47] <flexiondotorg> jbicha Could you take a look at this for me please?
[19:47] <flexiondotorg> https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/06/13/vectr-a-fresh-take-on-vector-graphics-edition-on-linux/
[19:47] <flexiondotorg> Damn
[19:48] <flexiondotorg> Wrong URL.
[19:48] <flexiondotorg> jbicha This one - https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mate-dev/indicator-session/mate-integration/+merge/325600
[19:48] <flexiondotorg> I saw you'd recently made a change an uploaded.
[20:29] <jbicha> flexiondotorg: could you use bileto for it? also, I don't think the added suggests there are useful
[21:32] <muktupavels> flexiondotorg: have_mate_program does not follow code style... also you can probably store is_mate somewhere so you dont have to repeat same check multiple times?
[23:00] <robert_ancell> https://stackoverflow.blog/2017/06/15/developers-use-spaces-make-money-use-tabs/
[23:01] <robert_ancell> For all you tab loving developers out there, repent!