[05:48] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy
[05:48] <CountryfiedLinux> reverse scrolling stopped working today. What happened?
[05:52] <CountryfiedLinux> For some reason reverse scrolling stopped working today. Any suggestions?
[05:52] <CountryfiedLinux> I'm using Kubuntu. Is it a Wayland issue perhaps?
[05:55] <hateball> CountryfiedLinux: easy enough to test by logging out and choosing an X session :)
[05:55] <CountryfiedLinux> hateball, in the login settings?
[05:56] <CountryfiedLinux> brb
[05:57] <CountryfiedLinux> It's fixed all of a sudden. :O
[05:58] <hateball> Heh. Computers.
[05:58] <CountryfiedLinux> I tried rebooting before and it didn't fix it.
[05:58] <CountryfiedLinux> But this time I just logged out and back in and voila!
[05:58] <hateball> CountryfiedLinux: next time you could try just reloading plasma also
[05:59] <hateball> CountryfiedLinux: "kquitapp plasmashell && kstart plasmashell"
[05:59] <hateball> because if it is like the case of my panels going missing, there *will* be a next time :p
[05:59] <CountryfiedLinux> ok thanks
[06:00] <CountryfiedLinux> I was just about to install Zorin OS 12 Lite beta. :P
[06:00] <CountryfiedLinux> BTW I have no idea why the official 12 and 12 lite released so far apart. Is the Zorin crew dying out or something?
[06:05] <CountryfiedLinux> I'm a huge Zorin fan so that big gap does concern me.
[07:44] <Guest78588> ao cambada de viado
[07:44] <Guest78588> boa noitche
[07:57] <necro> Do any of you guys still use KDE 4?
[08:03] <acheronuk> people still use Trusty 14.04 which is mostly KDE4 and plasma 4
[08:03] <acheronuk> KDE4 stuff is now unsupported by KDE, so I think most have moved on though
[08:04] <acheronuk> debian (and to a degree ubuntu) are now aiming to get rid of as much KDE4 off new releases as possible. hopefully to go altogether
[08:05] <necro> isnt trusty unsupported now tho?
[08:05] <necro> its lts support ended this april.
[09:39] <lordievader> Good morning
[09:52] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
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[13:17] <KDESupporter> Hello! Please my current Dolphin File Manager version is (16.12.3) while the latest stable version of Dolphin is (17.04.1). How to update to the latest version? (I'm running Kubuntu 17.04 with Kubuntu Backports enabled).
[13:19] <hateball> KDESupporter: check in #kubuntu-devel if/when it's planned I guess
[13:23] <KDESupporter> hateball: Thank you for pointing that out. Apart from that, do you know how to show the image dimensions information (width x height) in the Dolphin's tool tip window or the information sidebar? It is used to appear on my system during the old releases of Kubuntu but I stopped seeing those meta data since Kubuntu 16.10. Googling that out did not he
[13:23] <KDESupporter> lp me at all.
[13:31] <hateball> KDESupporter: I am on 16.04.3
[13:31] <hateball> dolphinwise
[13:31] <hateball> and the information sidepanel shows it there
[13:31] <hateball> got 17.04 at home tho, I can try looking there later
[13:46] <KDESupporter> hateball: Thanks, I posted this question a long time ago at: https://askubuntu.com/questions/881428/dolphin-is-not-showing-the-image-dimensions-metadata-when-previewing-images-on-k
[13:56] <Dragnslcr> KDESupporter- do you have the sidebar visible? Are you just getting basic file info?
[13:59] <KDESupporter> Dragnslcr: Yes, I am getting the basic file info - please check this recent screenshot: https://pasteboard.co/f662LTOw.png
[14:00] <Dragnslcr> KDESupporter- right-click in the sidebar and go to Configure
[14:01] <KDESupporter> Dragnslcr: I have tried that already 4 months ago. Everything is active as shown in this picture - https://pasteboard.co/f8lzbWPj.png
[14:04] <Dragnslcr> KDESupporter- if I have a PNG or JPG selected, then the Configure dialog has options for Height, Width, etc.
[14:07] <KDESupporter> Dragnslcr: This issue is not happening to all users of Kubuntu it seems which is why debugging it was - and still - a very hard task.
[14:08] <KDESupporter> note that I don't play with my system settings at all. I mean, as a web developer, I have nothing to do inside the system settings of Linux. I leave everything to defaults and simply keep everything up to date.
[14:09] <KDESupporter> I used to see those information back when I had Kubuntu 16.04, starting from 16.10 and onwards they simply vanished. I am currently running 17.04 with the backports enabled.
[14:23] <Dragnslcr> KDESupporter- if those options aren't showing up for you, I'm not sure what else to suggest
[14:23] <Dragnslcr> You may need to set them separately for each file type, so be sure to select a JPG and change the options, then select a PNG, etc.
[14:25] <KDESupporter> Dragnslcr: Thank you for your attempt to help at least. 84+ views on AskUbuntu with no answers - The idea is being able to check the image sizes quickly without opening an image viewer. After 6+ months of having this bug, I started getting used to open an image editor to check the size every time.
[14:26] <KDESupporter> *The dimensions i mean
[14:29] <Dragnslcr> I have the same version of Dolphin as you, and it's working correctly for me
[14:29] <KDESupporter> 4 months ago when i checked this issue, they told me that it is not a Dolphin issue. Some of the metadata that dolphin reads are missing from my system from some reason. I don't know the origin of the bug but the users who attempted to open a bug report on Kubuntu were not successful in maintaining it as the bug is not universal it seems.
[14:30] <Dragnslcr> If you select a JPG image, right-click the sidebar, and select Configure, what do you see for options?
[14:31] <KDESupporter> That's what I see >> https://pasteboard.co/f8lzbWPj.png
[14:32] <KDESupporter> obviously, I am missing some metadata. This is happening to all images of all types across all folders. Not just one image or a certain file type.
[14:36] <KDESupporter> This guy had the same issue since April 2015 - https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?t=67931
[14:40] <Dragnslcr> KDESupporter- just to sanity check, open a terminal and run:  apt list --installed "*png*"
[14:42] <KDESupporter> I have tried again the same solution that I tried 4 months ago and it seems to be working now. I am not very sure which action solved it but mostly probably it is: "balooctl disable".
[14:43] <KDESupporter> previously though, disabling the baloo did not help even after a restart. I am not sure how or why it worked now but it is all good :)
[14:43] <KDESupporter> Thanks Dragnslcr for your help!
[14:45] <Dragnslcr> That's really weird
[14:45] <Dragnslcr> Glad you got it fixed though!
[14:50] <KDESupporter> Yeah, I am glad too! Believe it or not, the recursive search feature was also not working in the past which is working now. I guess though after several updates, it was natural to expect a patch for that as well. All good now, my perfect Kubuntu <3
[14:52] <KDESupporter> I would like to try KDE Neon as well in the near future. Has any tried KDE Neon? How does it differ from Kubuntu with the backports PPA?
[14:52] <Dragnslcr> I don't think I've ever had Baloo enabled, so I never would have thought that it would be causing the problem
[14:53] <Dragnslcr> I haven't used Neon, but I think the only significant difference is that it always has the latest versions of KDE software
[14:53] <Dragnslcr> Even the Kubuntu backports might take a little extra time for the packages to be built
[14:56] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr, , KDESupporter, depending on your HW neon can be ok or not so good, my experience with it on this old amd pc with nvidia entry level geforce 210 gpu wasn't anything special
[14:57] <BluesKaj> didn't feel like bleeding edge due to my old hardware I think
[14:57] <KDESupporter> BluesKaj: Thank you for your feedback. For people with modern hardware (2017), do you think it would worth the try?
[14:59] <KDESupporter> I mean, little bit of delay in packaging between Kubuntu + Backports and Neon does not seem like a major reason for switching over.
[15:00] <BluesKaj> KDESupporter,  why not, but use dual boot with you existing stable kubuntu, if it doesn't work out no harm done
[15:00] <BluesKaj> you-your
[15:01] <BluesKaj> don't think a VM would be easy to configure, but I could be wrong
[15:02] <mparillo> I agree to try out both. If you have brand-new HW, the latest Kubuntu release will have a newer kernel, while Neon is built atop a Ubuntu LTS kernel.
[15:04] <KDESupporter> Latest KDE Software + Latest Kernel + Debian Based (Rolling Release) Distro : would be a very interesting combo. Nothing like that exists though as far as i know.
[15:05] <BluesKaj> dunno how good the livecd/liveusb  would be vs a proper install
[15:27] <mparillo> KDESupporter: I use a rolling distro (Manjaro, which is basically Arch for newbies) also, but I think rolling is not for most people. Basically every big update is accompanied by a forum post, and if you want to go years without trouble, you need to read the post (and skim the replies). Whereas a Kubuntu LTS will basically work for years, though some of the packages might get a bit stale.
[15:32] <KDESupporter> mparillo: it all depends on what you're doing I guess. Different users have different needs. I tend to favour rolling releases with daily updates and latest kernel compared to stability. If you usually get modern hardware every year, it would make sense to have a bleeding edge - unstable - distro as well that would support such your new hardware. I
[15:32] <KDESupporter> t also depends on your line of work. As a web developer like me, I don't use any local apps except for few dev applications and a web browser.
[16:05] <xog> hello
[16:07] <chirzel> hello
[16:15] <[Relic]> neon is a little better get a mouse cursor but a blank black screen
[17:06] <mparillo> Blank black screen in a VM?
[17:07] <[Relic]> blank screen with mouse cursor on boot; think my vid card is too new and need to figure out that nomodeset thing
[17:13] <BluesKaj> [Relic],  have you used the vt/tty, alt +F1-F6 ?
[17:20] <BluesKaj> [Relic],  if you can get to a vyt/tty, login, sudo nano /etc/default/grub, place nomodeset in the grub line replacing "quiet splash" . Keep the quotes,. then ctl+o, enter, ctl+x, to save and exit
[17:21] <BluesKaj> vt/tty
[17:21] <BluesKaj> [Relic],  then reboot
[17:33] <[Relic]> can't do that from here and just by loading the usb stick and switching it before going off to boot?
[17:34] <BluesKaj> [Relic],  ok, I assumed you were talking about booting into an installed OS
[17:35] <[Relic]> running 14.04 lts here, just trying to see what will boot and what won't, since the 17.04 versions seem to have the kernel my MB doesn't like
[17:37] <[Relic]> so just go into boot/grub/grub cfg and switch out quiet splash with nomodeset ; there are no quotes around it
[17:39] <BluesKaj> no /etc/default/gub
[17:39] <[Relic]> there is no etc on the usb stick
[17:42] <BluesKaj> never tried /boot/grub/grub.cfg...guess you can try it
[17:44] <[Relic]> read only, guess I put it in when the menu comes up
[21:08] <Ircdud> hello