| ali1234 | okay. intel rapid storage technology (which i believe is a SATA AHCI driver, basically) freezes samsung evo 850 SSDs | 04:19 |
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| ali1234 | remove it, computer works fine | 04:20 |
| ali1234 | annoying | 04:20 |
| knightwise | morning everyone | 05:38 |
| PaulE-UK | Hello all! Does anyone here have any knowledge of Mailtrain (Mailchimp alternative) and how that interacts with Postfix on Ubuntu, please? | 08:30 |
| PaulE-UK | If I am piping a log through netcat to a port on localhost to be looked at by a script, does that port need to be open, or is it by default by it being on localhost? | 08:51 |
| diplo | If it's on localhost unless the app blocks it I doubt you should have to do anything | 08:52 |
| diplo | Normally can see stuff like that in the app specific logs though | 08:52 |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 08:53 |
| diplo | hey brobostigon | 08:53 |
| diplo | Is it time to go home yet?!? | 08:53 |
| brobostigon | hey diplo | 08:54 |
| PaulE-UK | thanks @diplo is there a command that I can use to test the port from the command line? (sorry newbie here) | 08:54 |
| diplo | you could just telnet localhost <portnum> | 08:55 |
| PaulE-UK | thanks @diplo | 08:55 |
| diplo | That'll at least tell you if it'll connect | 08:55 |
| foobarry | one of my firefox tabs is using 100% cpu but no way of telling :( | 08:56 |
| foobarry | "Web content" | 08:56 |
| foobarry | and 3G RAM :| | 08:59 |
| popey | is that the new one with per process tabs | 09:00 |
| popey | ? | 09:00 |
| popey | also, wheee | 09:01 |
| popey | 10.0 GiB + 184.2 MiB = 10.2 GiBchrome (71) | 09:01 |
| foobarry | yes | 09:01 |
| foobarry | its taking 10s per tab to close each one | 09:01 |
| foobarry | down to 70 tabs | 09:02 |
| zmoylan-pi | isn't there a close all tabs option? | 09:19 |
| brobostigon | well, wont it just collapse anyway and close them all when you start running out of memory. | 09:22 |
| foobarry | turns out it was none of the tabs | 09:24 |
| foobarry | a common ff problem. ]# | 09:25 |
| popey | erk | 09:37 |
| zmoylan-pi | remember when ff was the lean lite browser... | 09:37 |
| diplo | How do you switch between all those tabs then foobarry ? Use the drop down to select, I get fed up when it hits 20 or so and just close them | 10:36 |
| zmoylan-pi | 20 seems to be about my maximum tolerated number as well | 10:37 |
| popey | $ ps aux | grep -ic chrome | 11:06 |
| popey | 76 | 11:06 |
| popey | http://imgur.com/a/4UTMe :S | 11:06 |
| zmoylan-pi | on plus side none of them are tentacle porn searches... | 11:11 |
| diddledan | https://stackoverflow.blog/2017/06/15/developers-use-spaces-make-money-use-tabs/ | 11:43 |
| zmoylan-pi | when i first started in the 80s i used tabs but then as i moved between different editors i found that tabs could mis indent the code depending on the editor so i switched to spaces | 11:46 |
| foobarry | i generally scroll the tabs with the mouse whell | 12:23 |
| foobarry | most of my tabs were github PR reviews and our docs site | 12:23 |
| diplo | Chromes is defintely better at displaying tabs well displaying just the icons as more tabs open, you have to scroll with FF | 12:27 |
| dogmatic69_ | o/ | 12:31 |
| dogmatic69_ | Fresh install of 17.04 yesterday and its crashing every couple hours. already 4 times today. Completely freezes up | 12:32 |
| dogmatic69_ | any ideas I could look for | 12:32 |
| ahayzen | IIRC there were some issues in the kernel or something for intel hardware, maybe make sure you are fully up to date (i can't find the bug right now) | 12:37 |
| dogmatic69_ | popey: I am here now. See above | 12:42 |
| dogmatic69_ | ahayzen: I have apt update'ed and believe I am as up to date as possible. | 12:43 |
| dogmatic69_ | It crashes even when not in use. Lock screen and come back earlier and its dead. | 12:43 |
| dogmatic69_ | crashed last night sometime (always leave it running) | 12:43 |
| dogmatic69_ | I use it to rdp to my laptop for comfort, has crashed 3 times with only a single rdp session running | 12:44 |
| awilkins | What's the GPU? | 12:46 |
| awilkins | IME hard crashes are faulty hardware, or GPU drivers | 12:46 |
| ahayzen | bug 1674838 and bug 1680904 were two that i was referring too. I'd check your syslog and dmesg for anything around the time of the crashes | 12:47 |
| lubotu3 | bug 1674838 in linux-hwe-edge (Ubuntu Zesty) "kernel BUG at /build/linux-7LGLH_/linux-4.10.0/include/linux/swapops.h:129" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1674838 | 12:47 |
| lubotu3 | bug 1680904 in linux (Ubuntu Zesty) "zesty unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1680904 | 12:47 |
| awilkins | I've had hardware that worked well enough on Windows but failed on Linux because it can challenge the hardware a bit more in some ways | 12:47 |
| awilkins | Memtest86 revealed broken memory. As it happened you could even see it in the Windows boot animation - a line of corruption in the Windows logo | 12:48 |
| dogmatic69_ | awilkins: it was not crashing on wednesday when I was running 16 | 13:04 |
| dogmatic69__ | just crashed when I clicked system... | 13:06 |
| awilkins | dogmatic69__, A friend has had a similar experience with 17 | 13:06 |
| dogmatic69__ | Intel® Core™ i5-4570S CPU @ 2.90GHz × 4 | 13:06 |
| awilkins | He went back to 16 also | 13:06 |
| awilkins | To me it sounds suspiciously like GPU problems | 13:07 |
| dogmatic69__ | great... | 13:07 |
| dogmatic69__ | ye, one crash the screen whet all corrupt | 13:07 |
| dogmatic69__ | but that one I was able to drop to shell and get it fixed | 13:07 |
| popey | sounds to me like ram issue | 13:13 |
| popey | dogmatic69__: run a memtest maybe? | 13:13 |
| dogmatic69__ | BTW I have 2x GeForce GTX 550 Ti's that been running for around 2 years. | 13:25 |
| dogmatic69__ | popey: Can do, will run one overnight | 13:25 |
| dogmatic69__ | I get it sounds like memory issue etc, or hardware. but that it started exactly when I installed 17. Before this my uptime was pushing 3 months | 13:28 |
| popey | bummer | 13:36 |
| diplo | Rebooting after a long spell does sometimes show up hardware faults | 13:36 |
| diplo | I have a server I need to reboot with a 4year+ uptime and I'm dreading it. | 13:37 |
| dogmatic69__ | so it crashed again and figured I would run the mem test. | 13:43 |
| dogmatic69__ | well that crashed at 24% | 13:43 |
| dogmatic69__ | :| | 13:43 |
| dogmatic69__ | seems like a common fault, will try later with this disabled https://superuser.com/questions/876946/memtest-freezing-at-16-percent | 13:44 |
| popey | maybe try with half the ram removed | 13:50 |
| popey | then again with the other half removed | 13:50 |
| popey | (and yes, the first half put back) | 13:51 |
| * Seeker` gets out a hacksaw to cut his ram in half | 13:51 | |
| dogmatic69__ | will try after work and see what I can sort | 14:04 |
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| awilkins | I have had RAM issues that only showed up on Linux | 15:52 |
| awilkins | Because Windows at the time only used certain CPU instructions for memory stuff and Linux used more | 15:52 |
| dogmatic69_ | popey: have run mem test, 100% pass | 17:56 |
| dogmatic69_ | pc also crashed 3 times in 15 minutes since... | 17:57 |
| dogmatic69_ | switching from xorg to nvidia | 18:10 |
| foobarry | can i run arm7 binaries on arm8? | 18:56 |
| foobarry | i think the answer is "depends" | 19:01 |
| zmoylan-pi | inversly proportional to how important it is that they run? :-P | 19:02 |
| daftykins | ali1234: sorry, been quite AWOL! interesting about intel RST, a mate had a samsung 850 EVO that was causing him major issues, worked fine for me so i first told him to update BIOS, then wipe - been fine since | 19:05 |
| ali1234 | wiping probably got rid of RST... | 19:06 |
| ali1234 | it was installed in the OEM - it's a samsung laptop. i thought it has a sshd, but actually it has a regular hdd and a 8GB ssd soldered to the motherboard | 19:06 |
| ali1234 | they've modified rst too | 19:07 |
| ali1234 | it will only accept some ancient version from 2012 | 19:07 |
| ali1234 | works fine after removing it though | 19:07 |
| ali1234 | so now i dont need to do a clean install, hopefully | 19:07 |
| daftykins | oh yeah i wasn't disputing that, he wanted me to pop over and check it out but did it via messages in the end XD | 19:09 |
| daftykins | err you should avoid factory installs 100% of the time | 19:09 |
| ali1234 | i know but the install is 5 years old and i dont want to reinstall everything | 19:09 |
| ali1234 | its super annoying that a samsung ssd doesn't work with a samsung laptop and the samsung factory install | 19:10 |
| ali1234 | but what can you do... | 19:10 |
| daftykins | there a reason it's getting 7? tinfoil hattery over 10? i've got a good 7 image i modified myself that installs almost all the updates you need out of the box | 19:10 |
| ali1234 | its always had 7 | 19:10 |
| daftykins | and? | 19:10 |
| ali1234 | its my mum's and she won't learn how to use 10 | 19:11 |
| ali1234 | its taken her 5 years to learn how to use 7 | 19:11 |
| daftykins | shame, already stuff taking advantage of 7 that's fine under 10 | 19:11 |
| daftykins | anywho my super handy 7 ISO and update pack to get over Windows Update's woes is available for a limited time only! as i likely have to leave home and go sleep at my olds shortly | 19:14 |
| daftykins | all moved out of the hotel this morning and now i'm this far - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTHyfx2mc00 | 19:14 |
| daftykins | i'm relaxing in front of S4C in HD, they haven't said 'Chris Waddle' yet though so i'm sad | 21:36 |
| brobostigon | daftykins: my welsh is abit lacking, so its always challenging to understand. | 21:45 |
| daftykins | ja first time i discovered it was after getting in after a few jars with the lads in my youth, i was SO confused that i could only pick up one in every few words | 21:46 |
| brobostigon | :) | 21:48 |
| zmoylan-pi | and that was when daftykins was speaking... :-P | 21:54 |
| daftykins | do not mock my finest Guernsiase, sir! | 21:54 |
| daftykins | ah the island was full of Frenchies today, sacré bleu | 21:54 |
| zmoylan-pi | you weren't told the secret deal for brexit to give it back? #startingRumours | 21:57 |
| daftykins | nooooo | 21:58 |
| daftykins | they'll change our clocks | 21:59 |
| zmoylan-pi | we'll have to frenchie up you irc nick leDaftykins | 21:59 |
| daftykins | hawhehawhehaw! | 21:59 |
| brobostigon | an change my nick from brobostigon to DonBrobostigon. lol. | 22:00 |
| daftykins | :D | 22:00 |
| brobostigon | :) | 22:00 |
| brobostigon | or "holy roman emporer brobostigon", :), woops, already taken. | 22:01 |
| zmoylan-pi | on plus side, you can really give up on been polite to... well anyone... :-P | 22:01 |
| zmoylan-pi | and with brexit you'll be in prime location for smuggling... there's a fortune to be made smuggling german car parts into the uk... :-) | 22:03 |
| daftykins | i'm gonna buy a boat! | 22:04 |
| brobostigon | holy roman emporer daftykins, resuurect the holy roman empire and make the best of it, :) | 22:04 |
| daftykins | toga on backorder | 22:04 |
| brobostigon | and headgear, and sandles. | 22:05 |
| zmoylan-pi | may i suggest a boat name... 'innocent fishing vessel' :-) | 22:05 |
| brobostigon | and not something like, 'son of titanic' | 22:06 |
| zmoylan-pi | ford pinto... that'll stop the american navy ramming into you... | 22:06 |
| brobostigon | i should have said, theresa may, woops.. | 22:07 |
| brobostigon | if you name your boat 'theresa may' they will automaticlly nickname it the titanic. | 22:08 |
| brobostigon | :) | 22:08 |
| daftykins | it'll be unsinkable as long as you don't call an election | 22:08 |
| zmoylan-pi | and hope it's a hard skinned boat as passing tories will jab it with boat hooks in reflex action | 22:08 |
| brobostigon | or 'david cameron' for that matter. | 22:08 |
| zmoylan-pi | i saw a curragh in boat yard when i had a wander in dun laoire recently... you don't usually see them this side of the island | 22:10 |
| brobostigon | remeber the tory sinkings in the 90's which concluded in the 97 landslide, thats going to happen pretty soon. | 22:11 |
| zmoylan-pi | they may be able to blame the dup when the ship hits the rocks... it's often the propping up party that gets the blame... see the libdems for details | 22:12 |
| zmoylan-pi | but by then the dup will have a few billion worth of investment in northern ireland giving them votes for a few more decades over the uup | 22:12 |
| brobostigon | the libdems went in it for the right reasons, they wanted good change, only difference here is the DUP getting into it for the convienence of the tories, nothing more. | 22:13 |
| zmoylan-pi | the dup is getting into it for the convenience of the dup... | 22:14 |
| brobostigon | agreed. | 22:14 |
| zmoylan-pi | right now they are up a certain creek without a paddle due to cash for ash... the hung parliment is a lifeline to them. nothing can go without them in london | 22:15 |
| zmoylan-pi | sinn fein has demanded their leader step down... now they can step around their requirements | 22:15 |
| zmoylan-pi | or they think they can | 22:15 |
| zmoylan-pi | if the northern ireland assembly doesn't restart it could break the agreement in place there... | 22:16 |
| zmoylan-pi | and then it will make current situation look... pleasent... :-/ | 22:16 |
| brobostigon | under the presumption because they support staying part of the uk and not staying part of the EU, presumption, it support the tories brexit view. | 22:16 |
| zmoylan-pi | i've seen 'ra graffitti pop up around here in last week... | 22:17 |
| zmoylan-pi | it /funded/ the tory brexit campaign using loopholes | 22:17 |
| * brobostigon is a socialist, he likes to support the sciences like CERN and the ESA etc, all this tory twoddle about leaving the EU donkeys all that goo work. | 22:19 | |
| brobostigon | i studied computer engineering an physics btw. | 22:20 |
| zmoylan-pi | nice that france is offering asylum to poor american scientists... | 22:20 |
| brobostigon | just like we did, of jewish scientists within ww2. | 22:21 |
| brobostigon | and polish scientists, | 22:21 |
| zmoylan-pi | ireland had heisenberg teaching classes during 'the emergency' iirc | 22:22 |
| brobostigon | as in the teacher of quantum mechanics? | 22:22 |
| zmoylan-pi | maybe... :-P | 22:23 |
| brobostigon | werner heisenberg? | 22:23 |
| brobostigon | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werner_Heisenberg | 22:24 |
| zmoylan-pi | hold on, must be my brain acting up... let me look it up... | 22:25 |
| brobostigon | i prefer the dane niels bohr. | 22:25 |
| brobostigon | i prefer the dane 'niels bohr'. | 22:25 |
| zmoylan-pi | i do like how they hid his nobel prize during wwii | 22:29 |
| brobostigon | i di not know that. | 22:30 |
| brobostigon | i did not know that. | 22:30 |
| brobostigon | hehe, i can get star trek graphic novels on my kindle, :) | 22:31 |
| daftykins | g'night folks \o more painting to do this weekend | 22:31 |
| zmoylan-pi | o/ | 22:31 |
| brobostigon | o/ | 22:32 |
| daftykins | must make a house a home ^_^ | 22:32 |
| brobostigon | can i borrow you daftykins when me and my wife to be, get a house, please,? | 22:32 |
| zmoylan-pi | you just throw a house warming party starting at 0800 and ending at 2300 and give everyong a brush, shovel depending on the job you need doing... painting, gardening etc... | 22:33 |
| brobostigon | hehe, yeah, :D | 22:35 |
| * zmoylan-pi has filled a long skip with rubble at one such event... | 22:36 | |
| brobostigon | :) | 22:38 |
| * zmoylan-pi wanders off for a shower... | 22:40 | |
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