[00:25] Problem with suspend/shutdown/hibernate: It's been maybe a month since I last rebooted my laptop (Dell XPS-15, Ubuntu 17.04, 4.10.0-22-generic). But ince I discovered that the hwclock wasn't responding (no change of system time since when I suspended hoirs ago - until updated via NTP), I decided to enter BIOS to see if the hwclock was running. It wasn't, so I set the hwclock and it's working fine now. But - [00:25] since I rebooted, I can no longer suspend or hibernate. This may be to resent dist-upgrade, perhaps. Anyone up to helping me debug this? [00:26] (disregard the typos :-) [00:30] What happens is that the network powers down, then after a few minutes the machine freezes completely and I have to hold down the power button to do a "hard shutdown". Suspend/hibernate worked just fine prior to rebooting. [00:31] what do i need for the command apt-add-repository ? [00:31] katnip: the repo url to add [00:32] nah, command not found [00:32] katnip: what command are you running? [00:32] sudo apt-add-repository -y ppa:rael-gc/scudcloud [00:33] apt-add-repository is part of software-proporties > sudo apt-get install software-properties-common python-software-properties [00:33] oerheks_, ty [00:33] it might be add-apt-repository; I don't remember which one it was [00:33] http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man1/add-apt-repository.1.html [00:33] Could this be a tip: https://askubuntu.com/questions/917347/ubuntu-17-04-stuck-in-suspend - except I do not run Unity (only i3-wm on bare X) - so how do I disable intel proprietary CPU driver? [00:40] isene, i have no clue, maybe this troubleshooting page is any help https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspend [00:45] Thing is - I can't do a ' shutdown -h now ' and can't even drop down to a shell with Ctrl-Alt-F1 - the machine just freezes :-/ [00:45] were there any known ACPIO or SATA issues with the 14.04.5 kernel (4.4) and skylake board/processors? [00:46] noticing some oddities now that I've gotten my updated kickstart going. [00:47] our i5 system with 3.0 ghz and 256GB SSDs only take about 15 minutes for a preseeded kickstart to go through the full install of the OS, but the updated kernel image on the i7 skylakes takes 4x as long basically. [00:47] Can't even kill X (freeze) [00:48] isene: what hardware? [00:48] and which version are you on? [00:48] oh 17.04 on a dell xps. [00:48] Dell XPS-15, Ubuntu 17.04 updated today [00:48] sorry can't help you there, I only use LTS. [00:49] If you have any hunches or pointers, it could still be useful [00:50] if that's a laptop I have lots of ideas about APCIO issues [00:50] mess with the kernel options is my thoughts [00:50] noirq or others. [00:50] Yes, laptop (worked just fine before reboot) [00:51] Did suspend, hibernate, shutdown, X-kill etc. Now all of those freezes [00:51] Only way to turn off the laptop is to hold down the power button for a really hard shutdown [01:02] If a package gets upgraded by apt, are the replaced files stored anywhere ? [01:02] Epx998: no [01:02] buh [01:03] once you upgrade the old files will no longer be on the system. [01:04] thats disappointing configs are tossed out [01:05] if you're using apt, and the package is setup properly it will warn you for any changed configuration files [01:05] yeah this one i didnt notice i guess [01:05] should give you a decision tree on keeping your original config or overwriting it. [01:06] it should just saved versioned config files by default i tell ya [01:07] wait if i upgrade to a new version of apache, my configs dont get wiped.. hmm [01:08] I had this issue with tomcat7 actually, had to pin the package to prevent it from updating. [01:10] ok it did save my configs, to a .bak file [01:10] i derped on the timestamp, thinking it would be from the other day after the apt upgrade, instead of the 2015 they have [01:12] ok i can go home, cheers. [01:15] Should I file this bug? https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43011 it seems to be limited to Ubuntu 17.04, not related to the version of Wine [01:15] bugs.winehq.org bug 43011 in -unknown "StarCraft Brood War 1.18 significant delays in CEF Browser" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [01:31] iopq: Report it with ubuntu-bug then. [01:32] Jordan_U, where do I go to do that? [01:34] iopq: Run "ubuntu-bug wine" [01:35] it said report belongs to a package that's not installed [01:38] iopq: Looks like the package name includes a version number, so "ubuntu-bug wine1.6" or whatever version you have installed. "dpkg -l | grep wine" should tell you what wine package(es) you have installed. [01:38] iopq: Make sure that when you run that command you have Ubuntu's wine installed though, not wine from another repository. [01:46] OK - I solved it by using kernel 4.10.0-21 instead of 4.10.0-22 - now my Dell XPS 15 can shutdown, reboot, suspend, hibernat :-) [01:46] isene: nice. [01:47] So there's something very wrong with that latest kernel as it totally wrecks havoc on my dell [01:48] Jordan_U, I'm using wine staging 2.10, not sure how I would input that [01:48] it wreak's havoc. [01:49] oops. without the ' === andyhuzhill1 is now known as andyhuzhill [02:24] Howdy Everyone === r0Oter is now known as r00ter [02:45] Is there a way to bomb out of a systemd "no limit" start job that in hung and get to a root shell and figure out what is going on? Or do I have to reboot into recovery mode or access the file system from a chroot? [02:49] how do I do ubuntu-bug for wine staging 2.10? [02:49] (not sure if this is the thing I should be doing) [02:49] !bug | Ionic [02:49] Ionic: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. [02:49] iopq, see above [02:50] where [02:50] !bug [02:50] If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. [02:50] I don't know the package name for wine staging 2.10 [02:56] I created a btrfs file system from 2 drives, Trusty is not letting me boot with it in my fstab, but if I let the system boot I can manually mount it from the same line in my fstab. Really annoying. I guess I need to add a cron job to mount the file system a bit later. [03:05] j #archlinux [03:06] oops [03:16] anyone have info on connecting raspberry pi zero to Ubuntu? [03:17] seems like a lot of people have the same issues.. can't ping the raspberrypi.local address.. so either the driver(s) are bad, or something is mis-configed with avahi? [03:21] Legendre: use the ip [03:36] Has anyone had any success installing colorschemes for vim in ubuntu? Base16, solarized, and hybrid do not work for me [03:46] Legendre, you can't ping .local from other machines [03:46] I have a pi. connect with the ip address and ssh. [03:47] Legendre, sorry. not a zero. I missed that part. But a ping is a ping. [04:01] is it possible to boot ubuntu from the 2nd hard disk? [04:05] dkdm: Sure, several ways . But at this time is grub installed to that second hard drive ? What system(s) are on that drive ? [04:06] there is just 2 windows mbrs [04:06] ubuntu itself is on the disk A [04:07] i want to boot it from the disk B [04:09] dkdm: Then that becomes a #windows question . But, just to make sure - pastebin ' sudo parted -l ' . [04:09] i'm in windows [04:10] dkdm: Then ask the #windows people how to boot up Windows . [04:10] i can boot windows [04:10] i need to boot ubuntu [04:10] well this isn't the right place for help with the windows bootloader [04:11] if you install grub then we're in business [04:11] dkdm: and .. is ubuntu installed ? If so . boot ubuntu and pastebin ' sudo parted -l ' . [04:12] i cannot boot ubuntu because grub is not installed. if you need linux, i have a Fedora live CD [04:12] so when you installed ubuntu you told it to not install a bootloader? [04:12] i need to install grub onto disk B [04:12] i removed grub to install security updates [04:12] that doesn't make any sense [04:13] dkdm: While we can install grub form a liveDVD - will require the ubuntu liveDVD to make that happen . - How did you install ubuntu ? [04:13] via DVD [04:15] dkdm: K; then boot that ibuntu liveDVD, and pstebin ' sudo parted -l ' so we know what the targets here are for installing grub . [04:15] ok === nocaberi is now known as Sauvin === Jochen_wvdT is now known as Schlawiner [05:10] how do i see partitions inside a file.img [05:10] can fdisk do it [05:11] azizLIGHT: you need to use another app to open it [05:13] azizLIGHT: first "sudo losetup -fv file.img", then "sudo kpartx -av /dev/loop0" [05:13] ok, thanks [05:14] azizLIGHT: actually to see the partitions you can use "sudo fdisk -l" on the loop device [05:14] thats after mount though sint it [05:15] after kpartx -a [05:15] azizLIGHT: i think you can use it after losetup [05:15] sudo fdisk -l /dev/loop0 [05:19] azizLIGHT: use kpartx if you don't see the partitions [05:20] kpartx -l seemed to tell me [05:20] two partitions [05:41] Is it possible to breakout of a restricted shell by writing to .bash_profile? [05:41] trying to escape a restricted shell, I can write to .bash_profile - i was wondering what command can I put in .bash_profile that could change my shell to /bin/bash as opposed to /bin/rbash? [05:44] hey everyone [06:01] hello! [06:04] hello! [06:13] is there a blink or webkit based browser that has native scrollbars? [06:35] excuse me , i installed torbrowser-launcher latest version and when i ran the launcher i got Download error : 404 Not found, any one know the solution are there problems in tor servers? [06:43] ahmed751995 you can try tor-browser-en.sh [06:45] hello [06:45] anybody here [06:45] yes, 1233 people [06:46] Hello how do i install ubuntu from windows [06:46] ?? [06:46] greeting from japan guys [06:46] make ubuntu usb or dvd, boot that, follow instructions [06:46] i cant seem to run it from boot up [06:46] i need live installer [06:46] how exactly does that work [06:47] use something like rufus to make the usb from the iso, then boot it [06:47] can anyone inform me of a good program for daily journal use, with encryption capability thanks [06:48] @skc: but what about laucher [06:50] @ahmed laucher is not working also for me ...work-around is from cli use tor-browser-en.sh (from non root user) [06:51] I remember that i ran ubuntu from within windows enviroment [06:51] setup then restarted does that still exists [06:52] just wondering john38 have you set your bios for legacy boot? [06:52] i dont think it has that option [06:53] i looked for legacy and uefi [06:53] nothing [06:53] I removed my old driver. one i got from graphics ppa and tried a newer one. now the one I had before is completely gone [06:53] Hello. Our xrdp servers on Ubuntu 16.04 sometimes stop listening to port 3389 and no more logins are possible while all the old sessions are still running. Any idea what causes this? How can I reload the xrdp server without having to close the existing sessions? [06:54] sudo apt-get install nvidia-361 Unable to locate package nvidia-361 and that was the one i've used before [06:56] are you using laptop or a desktop pc [06:56] do you plan on dual booting [06:56] Can someone explain why my computer wont boot to dvd drive even though i set it to 1st boot order???? [06:57] what brand [06:57] in my case using lenovo thinkpad on boot i press enter to choose where to boot [06:57] so if I wanted to start windows [06:58] i have lenovo thank you [06:58] skc: thanks [06:58] is there another startup funtion key besides f1 [06:59] f1 to me is bios [06:59] what about quick boot up menu [06:59] ???? [07:00] this is rediculous i set boot order to boot to dvd rom first [07:00] and it still boots to hdd [07:00] john38: maybe the dvd isn't bootable [07:00] andd [07:00] it worked before [07:00] try f12 upon bootup just keep hitting it [07:00] i even plugged in external dvd rom drive [07:01] still dont owrk [07:01] john38: what are you trying to boot [07:01] ok f12 [07:01] i'll try that [07:01] bbl [07:01] if you could give us what model of your laptop is maybe people here can help you more [07:01] its desktop lenovo h415 [07:04] Hey, is it possible to convert openssl public key string which starts with "30 82 01 0A 02 82 01 01 00 BB 6C" to pem format "-----BEGIN CERTIFICATE-----MIIDYTCCAkmgAwIB" ? [07:05] can a driver in the graphic ppa just go away ? [07:06] hey john on your bios setting, you have a boot option, is there no legacy boot option? [07:06] no [07:06] hmmm... strange [07:06] if yes how do i get my old driver back [07:06] boot sequence, fast boot [07:07] have you tried turning off secure boot? [07:07] that would help [07:07] i'll try that thanks [07:09] can a driver in the graphic ppa just go away ? [07:09] sure [07:10] how do I get the driver back? [07:10] you don't (probably) [07:10] the other one's don't work [07:11] ppas aren't supported here === jackNemrod_ is now known as jackNemrod [07:40] what now my graphics card is not supported anymore. i even know which driver version i need. but it doesn't show up anymore if i install the ppa. [07:41] i need nvidia-361 [07:52] ok the only method is from the nvidia install site i guess... never done this before... how could I uninstall nvidia drivers after i run the .run file there? [07:53] Kali_Yuga: are you on kali linux [07:54] no i'm on ubuntu [07:54] then you should be able to use nvidia from the repos [07:54] ah ok with like NVIDIA-Linux-x86-310.19.run --uninstall [07:54] bad idea [07:55] no I've ask million times [07:56] the only driver that wirked was 361 and another but i removed the old one to try an even newer one. of course i brake everything. but now my old driver dissapeared and i can't recover any other way [07:56] worked* [07:58] http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/103306 and thats the one I need but it has dissapeared under the driver manager [07:59] how am I supposed to get it back without doing it manually [08:00] what card do you have [08:01] geforce gt 730m it's a laptop with nvidia prime [08:01] and what version of ubuntu === CRogers_________ is now known as CRogers [08:02] recommended to me is nvidia-381 but i get a black screen... my old one was 361 [08:03] pls don't complain i'm still on 14.04 [08:03] 14.04 is still supported so that's fine [08:03] nvidia-375 is in the ubuntu repos [08:04] yes but it won't work i tried [08:04] it will work, but you might have messed stuff up with the ppa and whatnot [08:05] no ppa deleted and they all dissapeared again [08:05] i tried 340 (works but not good) 370,375,378,381 all black screen [08:06] 381 isn't even in the repos [08:06] 361 worked before i don't know i shouldn't have removed it [08:07] that was with the ppa enabled [08:08] So the only way i see to recover is either a manual install of nvidia-361 or some unofficial ppa that has it [08:09] what are the disadvantages of installing it manually [08:09] ? [08:10] Kali_Yuga: you'll break things more [08:10] why would i brake thinngs more? [08:11] but i need it [08:12] Kali_Yuga: then go for it, you're not supported with that in here though [08:12] I can open up tty and things choose the .run file and run it with --uninstall option if it doesn't work [08:15] I have to risk it or my graphics card won't work properly === jackNemrod_ is now known as jackNemrod [08:52] Kernel 4.10.0-22 makes my hw freeze, but 4.10.0-21 works. When booting I get the usual choice of booting with the most recent kernel (the -22) and the previous (the -21). When I upgrade the system and a new kernel comezs out, I will have a choice of the latest and then -22 as the new "previous" kernel. I want to make sure I retain -21 as a choice in case the next kernel has the same bug as -22. How do I make [08:52] sure the system doesn't lose the -21 on upgrade? [08:57] isene: Afaik, when you install the actual version yourself, instead of having the package resolve to the latest version, it is flagged as manually installed, and should be retained. [09:06] I've been having an issue for weeks that I've been trying to figure out to not avail. When I'm using sudo apt-get update I'm getting the error: GPG error: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/selmf/xUbuntu_16.04 Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 3F3411BE43F8BC1F [09:06] I've tried using the command to manually get the keys and I've also tried y-ppa-manager but nothing is helping [09:07] Can anyone help me out please? [09:15] Hello, when using fdisk i'm trying to set a partition type to HPFS/NTFS/exFAT, however I cannot see this type in the list when pressing "L"... any ideas why? [09:17] full list i have available is only: https://pastebin.com/FsdkqVgF [09:26] Conino_: you can probably use "microsoft basic data" [09:28] yes you're right, thank you [09:32] any idea how to debug the following HDMI audio issue: audio *doesn't* work at boot but *does* work if the computer has gone into a sleep state and been awoken (and then stops working again if I momentarily switch to a usb headset and then back) [09:33] Ben64: I can't install it manually anyway it errors out and says I can't even after I added noveau to blacklist and stopped lightdm... how can I get a working graphics card again [09:38] my nvidia driver just dissapeared from the drivers list and I don't know how to get it back aaaa [09:40] Kali_Yuga: did you try to boot with kernel parameter nomodeset? [09:40] ? [09:40] !nomodeset [09:40] A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter [09:41] <_28Kb> Can I find some docs explaining how to create users and groups and how to assign them to apps and actual users along with modesetting? I'm stuck at some vfat usb samba share, but I'd like to know how to manipulate users (even root) in general. [09:42] akik: No but I know hwich nivid driver works and it's not available anymore [09:42] which nvidia driver works but* it's not available anymore [09:43] Kali_Yuga: you mentioned black screen and that kernel parameter sometimes works for that problem [09:43] idk... i just want my driver back very annoying [09:44] Kali_Yuga, if it is not available for automated install, why not go to Nvidia website, download needed driver installer and install it manually? I am pretty sure that you can find driver for your card there. However after each kernel update you will need to re-run installer script. [09:44] it's nvidia-361 i need and now unable to locate [09:44] Kali_Yuga: so add that kernel parameter and boot your machine [09:46] I can't install manually i tried installer errors out cuz of something. i did everything even closed lightdm and added stuff to sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf [09:46] sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf [09:46] dammit [09:46] anyone in here experienced that when using usb-dvd drive in ubuntu and you switch the discs then when you copy from disc no2 you get an i/o error because it seems like ubuntu have still cached disc no1 ? [09:47] akik: I would rather just go back to what worked before. i shouldn't have changed anything in the first place [09:48] Kali_Yuga: look into /var/cache/apt/archives if the packages are saved there [09:48] the driver was purged [09:50] Kali_Yuga: ubuntu 14.04? [09:50] i just need nvidia 361 in my drivers list again somehow. i don't know why it was removed anyway. [09:50] yes [09:52] Hi, anyone know if it's possible to prevent Linux from reassigning drive IDs? My main boot drive is an SSD, and was always /dev/sda, however since replacing one of the disks in my RAID, it's now sdb, and my external USB drive is sda! This is a bit annoying as my backup script expects the USB drive to be /dev/sdg as it always has been before. [09:52] Hey folks [09:53] I could update the backup script (it mounts the drive, does a backup then umounts) but I'm worried it'll change again randomly [09:53] Smashcat: check /etc/fstab [09:53] Smashcat: also /etc/default/grub [09:53] Apachez: Yeah, that's never changed, but it mounts the SSD (boot drive) via UUID [09:53] i used ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa [09:55] nvidia-361 is not available anymore [09:56] I guess I can add a script to check the size of each disk using lsblk, as I know the backup USB drives are all 3.7T, and my RAID disks are 2.7T, and SSD is much smaller. So then it won't matter if linux changes the devices around after a reboot. [09:58] Kali_Yuga: here's the graphics-drivers-ppa dir but it references 12.04: http://ppa.launchpad.net/graphics-drivers/ppa/ubuntu/pool/main/n/nvidia-graphics-drivers-361/ [10:02] I'm downloading the .deb but is it any save to install it this way? [10:03] Done it :) lsblk | grep '3.7T' | grep 'disk' | awk '{print "mount /dev/" $1 "1 /home/usb"}' | /bin/sh [10:05] and if i try how do i remove with also just with apt-get remove nvidia* ? [10:07] Isn't there just a standalone installer for the nvidia drivers? [10:07] I used that for the CUDA drivers for my headless server. [10:08] (which has nvidia cards) [10:11] Kali_Yuga: if you're concerned about the right way, use the defined repositories [10:11] Kali_Yuga: i didn't see you write that you tried nomodeset === jackNemrod_ is now known as jackNemrod [10:25] are there no maintainer for casper? [10:38] akik: Thank you man! you saved my life. that deb file worked. i just needed to install all those .deb files + nvidia-prime & nvidia-settings. [10:39] Kali_Yuga: nice. you might want to pin the packages at that version now [10:41] Kali_Yuga: echo "package hold" | sudo dpkg --set-selections" (replace package with each of the package names) [10:41] i have no clue how and what you mean :D [10:41] Kali_Yuga: so that those packages will not be updated any more [10:42] Kali_Yuga: echo "package hold" | sudo dpkg --set-selections (replace package with each of the package names) [10:43] probably to much : dpkg: warning: package not in database at line 1: package [10:43] dpkg: warning: found unknown packages; this might mean the available database [10:43] is outdated, and needs to be updated through a frontend method [10:44] Kali_Yuga: you need to replace the "package" with the package name [10:45] akik: just the driver.deb? [10:45] Kali_Yuga: try "dpkg -l | grep nvidia" [10:45] Kali_Yuga: in that output the second column is the package name [10:49] ok i'm to dumb where does the driver name needs to be placed like this? echo "package hold" | sudo dpkg --set-selections NVIDIA binary driver - version 361.45.18 no clue [10:49] Kali_Yuga: echo "nvidia-361 hold" | sudo dpkg --set-selections [10:50] ah [10:50] Kali_Yuga: and do that for all those debs you installed manually [10:50] Kali_Yuga: what is the computer model you're using? how old? [10:52] like this a.e echo "libcuda1-361 hold" | sudo dpkg --set-selections for the next package [10:52] Kali_Yuga: yes [10:53] the last one won't work echo "libopencl1-361 hold" | sudo dpkg --set-selections [10:54] Kali_Yuga: if you run now "dpkg -l | grep nvidia" again, you should see a "h" at the beginning of the line [10:55] 'hi' instead of 'ii' ? [10:55] yes [10:57] just a question. how would I reverse this? back to ii... [10:58] Kali_Yuga: i think it was echo "package install" | sudo dpkg --set-selections [10:58] Kali_Yuga: there seems to be an easier way to do it with apt-mark [11:00] Kali_Yuga: sudo apt-mark hold package and sudo apt-mark unhold package [11:02] yes that is definitely easier [11:03] got an medion p7818 bought around 2013 [11:04] not the best for linux [11:10] Howdy Everyone [11:55] Hi I can ping server ip, redirect-gateway enabled in client, ip forwarding enabled, nat enabled, clients in different networks and this is my "configurations" https://gist.github.com/fccpt/d344c05d4d625da69f562ac5b4d0ac65 and results ISSUE: I can't surf the web when connected to VPN and can't access most of resources of webserver [11:56] not sure if I have a firewall issue or some bad configuration on openvpn server/client... [11:56] but everything looks fine [11:58] anyone? [12:08] when you connect to vpn can you do the basics and report back: 1:ping 8.8.8.8 -c 4 2: nslookup google.com [12:09] woops "ping 8..." (make sure to have a space) [12:09] space [12:34] jink: Sorry for the afk - the version I am using is not manually installed, it's the previous auto-installed kernel version that I am now using... And I want to tell Ubuntu "please do not remove the 4.10.0-21 kernel" when the system installs 4.10.0-23 some time in the near future. [12:43] Hi. MATE is not booting properly. "Kubuntu" just hangs. What should I do so I can log in? Reset the graphics driver? It also suggets that the nvidia driver is not linked. the .so file or something. I can't exactly remember what it says. [12:45] hey, I am having issues with ubuntu 17.04. the swapfile.swap service delays my boot for over a minute. systemctl status: paste.ubuntu.com/24872211 [12:46] Stuck in a tty [12:46] or else I'd google it [12:48] hello. [12:48] lesik: you could try to initialize the /swapfile again [12:48] Is there an internet browser that is functional? [12:48] (for the terminal) [12:48] lesik: sudo mkswap /swapfile if it's not in use [12:49] I have a box running ubuntu 16.04 (2 cores). and I have haproxy -> followed by nginx . Now there is request queue buildup between the haproxy and nginx because some of the api [12:49] 's respond slowly [12:49] NoCode: elinks is one [12:49] how do I figure out how to solve this issue. As in how not to lead to buildup of request queue [12:50] lesik, swapfile or swap partition, if it's a partition make sure it's entered as such in /etc/fstab [12:51] isene: apt-get install lalalala-4.10.0-21 should flag it manually installed, instead of "automatically required". [12:51] BluesKaj: 17.04 and up uses swap files instead of partitions AFAIK [12:52] lesik, I'm on 17.10 and I use a swap partition ..swap partitions are still default unless you choosre not use one [12:56] akik: thanks, that fixed the issue, but boot is still delayed due to waiting for dev-mapper-cryptswap: paste.ubuntu.com/24872252 [12:57] BluesKaj: did you do a clean 17.10 install or upgrade from a previous version? [12:57] I honestly don't quite remember whether I was asked during install if I want partition or file [12:58] lesik: are you using an encrypted swap? [12:59] akik: apparently [12:59] lesik: you don't know? [13:00] akik: I don't remember as I haven't used that install for a while. but I do remember that I didn't manually set it up. if it was a checkbox that set it up automatically, I might have clicked it. [13:00] but I guess it wouldn't wait for /dev/mapper/cryptswap if I didn't [13:00] so I would say yes [13:01] lesik: not sure 100% but if you have /etc/crypttab with swap in the last column, it will be re-initializied automatically, maybe causing this problem [13:02] jink: Excellent. Just what I was looking for ("linux-image-4.10.0-21-generic set to manually installed.") [13:02] Thanks [13:03] akik: paste.ubuntu.com/24872272 [13:03] lesik: i meant /etc/crypttab [13:03] akik: both is in the paste [13:04] isene: you can also use apt-mark to control that, see the man page [13:04] lesik: ah ok. are you using /dev/urandom as the luks key to open it? :) === jackNemrod_ is now known as jackNemrod [13:05] akik: I take it as a rethorical question? :) [13:05] lesik: i'm just not sure why you put it there [13:05] I did not, I swear [13:05] I think on first login I was presented with a prompt that offered to encrypt swap [13:06] maybe it is ok, that it's always initialized [13:06] ji just find it weird to use urandom there [13:06] lesik a clean install, but I always have a swap , and nowhere was I prompted to create a swapfile in place of a partition [13:07] BluesKaj: "For new installs, a swap file will be used instead of a swap partition." [13:07] source: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZestyZapus/ReleaseNotes [13:07] lesik: actually you have both /swapfile AND /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 [13:07] yes [13:08] I'm confused by this setup [13:08] first time using ecryptfs instead of dm-crypt and first time using a swapfile instead of a partition [13:09] lesik, ok , that's odd in my view, no explanation provided [13:09] lesik: what do you see in /proc/swaps now? [13:10] /swapfile, type file, used 0 [13:10] ducasse: ' apt-mark manual linux-image-4.10.0-21-generic ' would do the same as ' apt-get install linux-image-4.10.0-21-generic ' in this case, then? [13:11] Reinstalled nVidia driver. Seemed to work I guess. Thank the gords startx worked in a different tty. [13:12] lesik: i use a static keyfile to open my encrypted swap device so i don't know how your setup works [13:12] akik: me neither, as I just got what the installer gave me :( [13:13] I'm used to configuring it by myself, and it's my first time using *buntu [13:14] NoCode: sounds like you might have had a kernel upgrade and the nvidia blobs didnt get built by dkms [13:14] NoCode: but if everything is working now \o/ [13:15] hateball, Yes, it booted promptly, so I think it is working properly [13:15] I purged all the nvidia stuff beforehand [13:16] lesik: "For swap encryption, /dev/urandom or the hardware device /dev/hw_random can be used as the password file; using /dev/random may prevent boot completion if the system does not have enough entropy to generate a truly random encryption key." https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/crypttab.html [13:16] akik: OK, that's good to know [13:17] but why does it still fail? [13:18] lesik: sorry i don't know. could it overwrite the luks header? [13:19] WARNING: Using the swap option will destroy the contents of the named partition during every boot, so make sure the underlying block device is specified correctly. [13:19] Seems I still have an error with nvidia though, "/sbin/ldconfig.real: /usr/lib/nvidia-375/libEGL.so.1 is not a symbolic link" "/sbin/ldconfig.real: /usr/lib32/nvidia-375/libEGL.so.1 is not a symbolic link" [13:20] weird [13:20] NoCode: i get those same messages but it seems not to be a problem [13:20] What's the right way to image a partition these days (on an ssd)? Trying to make a backup of the disk before doing a resize / windows install (as the NUC HDMI firmware updater is windows-only) [13:21] https://askubuntu.com/questions/900285/libegl-so-1-is-not-a-symbolic-link [13:21] would previously do a "dd if=/dev/sd#" ... but now I have a /dev/nvme0, /dev/nvme0n1, /dev/nvme0n1p1 (p2, p3). Which is any of those should I image or is there a better way to create a full disk backup these days? [13:21] (currently booted into a live cd) [13:22] Guess I'll link, and wait until the drivers get updated again for it to break again. [13:22] Dave114: if you do "sudo fdisk -l /dev/nvme0n1" does it list those partitions? [13:22] isene: That's it. :) [13:23] akik, yup. Is the n1 the first device with e0 being something or other else? [13:23] isene: I hardly ever do this, so I'm just winging it, but glad to be of service. :P [13:23] Dave114: i have never owned a nvme device but it seems to be addressed the same way as /dev/sda [13:23] Thanks for helping me learn [13:23] just want to be sure that I don't need to preserve higher-level information. e.g. is there anything in /dev/nvme0 that needs to be preserved? [13:23] np [13:24] Dave114: i.e. /dev/sda would be the whole device. in your case /dev/nvme0n1 maybe? [13:25] akik, that'd be my guess too ... but if making a backup it's nice to ensure you're actually backing up the right thing in case what I do next winds up more destructive than intended :) [13:28] ah well ... guess I'll just keep my fingers crossed while making the changes [13:29] i was just working on my laptop connecting it to power source. now when i disconnect the powers source, the brightness is suddenly up. anybody please help me figure it out. [13:29] i have asked this question yesterday as well. please help me figure it out [13:31] rajivmars: probably a power management bug [13:31] look at what the power management settings say it should set the brightness to [13:32] Hello all using Ubuntu 16.04 i can't get to the system setting via Gnome [13:32] or unity [13:32] Jakethepython: what happens ? [13:32] if i click on it..nothing happens [13:32] is it just that one button that doen't work ? [13:32] whenever i turning my laptop on, then every thing looks good. if at the time of turning on i have not connected to the power source then the brightness looks to me what i have set it, but when i disconnect the power source and then suddenly the brightness increases. [13:33] rajivmars: right, so what does the brightness control show it as once it's gone bright [13:33] rajivmars: does the brightness control match the display, or does it still say it should be dimmed, but the screen is actually bright [13:33] more than 95% bright [13:34] is the screen in sync with what the control things it should be [13:34] the brightness automatically increases [13:35] also when i turn my laptop on and if at that time i am not connected to the power source then also the brightness settings looks what i set it. but now when i connect the power source it again increased. [13:35] The Ubuntu Help Menue and other things odo not come up either [13:36] Is a restart required for these 'linux-firmware' upgrades to actually take effect? [13:37] And kernel as well. I remember reading something about restart-less kernel upgrades a while ago, but no clue if that's implemented. [13:38] ikonia. again the same thing happened. the brightness increased when i disconnect the power source. why is this happening. [13:40] ikonia? [13:42] sorry we lost internet connection [13:42] isene: yes, but apt-mark is the better way to control those flags imo [13:42] In the Menue i can't get to setting, about this computer or the Help button [13:42] if i click them nothing happens [13:43] Hi All, when installing ubuntu 14.04 on VMWare ESXi I get "No disk drive was detected"... with SCSI disks and any of the SCSI controllers that are available to choose from. anyone knows why? or how to get around this? (I know i can set them to IDE and will work... but didnt want to do that...) [13:44] onitlikesonic: why are you installing 14.04 and not 16.04? [13:45] leftyfb: in the process of moving to 16.04 but still need to support 14.04 machines [13:46] onitlikesonic: right, but you're installing fresh. Why not install 16.04 now? [13:46] leftyfb: much more complex than just picking the new version :) we have a whole ecosystem that still is not migrated to 16 [13:50] Need to format a 2.0 TB secondary HDD from command line, Should I use fdisk, parted or something else? [13:50] I want to give it a full partition of default format (ext4 I think?) [13:51] crised: fdisk doesn't format. Use gdisk for partitioning. Use mkfs for formatting [13:51] leftyfb: ok, will start with gdisk then [13:52] onitlikesonic: do you see any storage devices when you have a scsi controller defined for the vm? [13:53] what's it called when an application is able to allow the desktop to save it's position upon logout and the when you log back on "it's back" like you didn't logout.... [13:54] is there a way to reinstall the settings and menues in Unity? [13:55] donofrio: suspend [13:57] onitlikesonic: do you have a choice of what type of scsi controller you give to the vm? [13:58] Which ext should I use for a hard drive just to save files? [13:58] ext#? [13:59] crised: ext4 is fine. Unless you want to use it on a Windows machine. Then you should use ntfs or fat32 [14:00] onitlikesonic: With many Linux guest operating systems, problems were observed when the BusLogic virtual SCSI adapter was used with VMware virtual machines. VMware recommends that you use the LSI Logic virtual SCSI adapter with this guest operating system. http://partnerweb.vmware.com/GOSIG/Ubuntu_16_04_LTS.html (maybe that applies to 14.04 too) === thinkt4n_ is now known as thinkt4nk [14:02] akik: I wonder why not paravirtual? [14:02] I have two ubuntu 16.04 systems -- one can install vlc, and the other can't because of unmet dependencies. The problem is with libgles1-mesa and libgles2-mesa and (I think) libglapi-mesa. All have older versions on the problem system. How do I update them? [14:04] zacktu: you'll find one of the systems is probably using a PPA [14:04] akik: that might be it [14:04] but i only see these choices: LSI logic SAS, LSI Logic parallel, VMWare paravirtual [14:05] the vmware paravirtual can cause problems on linux [14:05] yeah i tried them all [14:05] none work [14:05] all do the same [14:05] LSI works [14:05] what are you trying to do thats a problem ? [14:05] ikonia: it can? [14:05] tgm4883: yeah, it can cause disk locking [14:05] onitlikesonic: this is a standard ubuntu 14.04 server ISO? [14:05] trying to install a 14.04 on vmware esx1 [14:06] onitlikesonic: §what is the actual problem you are getting ? [14:06] tgm4883: preseeded from our repos [14:06] ikonia: Any docs on that? I'd like to read up on it since we use it here [14:06] i just see "No disk drive was detected" and the installation stops [14:07] tgm4883: I'm sure there is in the vmware KB [14:07] searching [14:07] tgm4883: don't have one off the top of my head, I've not used the paravm emulation for a while now [14:09] Why root is enabled on Digitalocean servers? [14:09] when i plug in a usb disk to ubuntu (mate) i see unnamed drive (/dev/sdd) in caja computer:/// when i try to open it, i get "unable to mount location an operation is already pending". i can go to terminal and sudo mount /dev/sdd1 /mnt/usb . how do i get this to enumerate properly (sdd1 instead of sdd so that it will mount from the de) [14:10] ikonia: the only difference is a ppa for a site for a site named peterlevi , which is a backgraound changer. [14:10] I am have odd issues with mic input on audacity [14:10] I have a cad u37 usb mic [14:10] Ice_Strike: ask DigitalOcean [14:11] Used to work fine on ububtu [14:11] But now seems to amplify the input on audacity [14:11] Works fine on arch and win10 [14:11] Any ideas what might be ging on? [14:12] I am running "composer install" in /var/www/html/project [14:12] and i get an error [14:12] Do not run Composer as root/super user! See https://getcomposer.org/root for details [14:12] Look like I need to creat an account. [14:13] Would I be able to run composer in /var/www/html/project via different user? [14:16] strange is when i specify the second disk as IDE ia alll goes ok even though the first disk is scsi [14:16] anyway gotta go :( [14:18] ANyone know how I shutdown autostarts from the CLI? I tried to set serviio.sh to autostart and now I cant get a desplay to open on my RDP client [14:19] I tried removing the sym-link from ~/.config/autostart but still cannot get back up and running [14:26] ? [14:42] hey all [14:42] im looking to tranfer my videos/pictures from iphone to ubuntu [14:55] is it possible to replace Ubuntu Zesty with Debian Jessie on a server without rebooting? Including the kernel [14:57] jamesl: no [14:57] I don't think so, in terms of packages that would be a downgrade and jumping between distributions [14:57] ah [14:57] just a flat "no [14:58] I like having a high uptime but I also want to switch to Debian [14:58] that doesn't seem a well thought out approach [14:58] why do you want high up time ? [14:58] why do you want to switch [14:58] I don't even think you could do that for Zesty -> Yakkety [14:58] you can't [14:58] or the other way [14:58] you'd need a reboot to go from Yakkety -> Zesty [14:59] I did yakkety to Zesty, it worked [14:59] jamesl: no you didn't [14:59] I mean the no reboot thing is not possible [14:59] but yeah, I did reboot now I remember [14:59] exactly [14:59] jamesl: why don't you want to reboot ? [14:59] actually, never mind, it's offtopic [14:59] the answer is "no" [15:00] because I want my server to have a multi year uptime one dat [15:00] long uptimes often equate to insecure or unstable kernels [15:00] but if uptime is more important to you then those are risks you're opting to take [15:00] jamesl: worst reason ever [15:00] and shows a total lack of understanding [15:01] that would apply if this was a production server [15:01] jamesl: if you don't reboot, you'll have long running processes using older versions of libraries which may be vulnerable. Long uptimes are bad [15:01] but it's an internal testing ssrver [15:01] jamesl: no, it doesn't matter if it's production or not [15:02] I am not sure what business you are in, but security comes before everything else in all jobs I've held [15:02] chasing uptime to show a number is pretty much the worst appraoch to infrastructure and something a child would do [15:02] "I want a big uptime number" [15:02] I am a child. I'm 16 [15:02] I reset my case [15:02] jamesl: you're aware you can just change the date and get a big uptime number to show off to your friends [15:02] yup. Your argument is perfectly valid [15:03] if uptime is that important, which it can be, you need multiple systems and load balancing/failover, neglecting updates is not the answer === jstein_ is now known as jstein [15:19] Is deluge a nice to make a torrent box? [15:19] it has a nice webui? [15:19] How on Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS with Apache 2 do I enable PHP 7 in userdir (i.e. public_html) [15:21] Worked it out, I just needed to install "libapache2-mod-php" [15:25] technocf: and to be clear, those are two orthogonal things. 1) enable apache2's mod-php and 2) enable userdir [15:34] curl -sL https://deb.nodesource.com/setup_6.x | sudo -E bash - [15:34] now I want to remove it from Repository - how to do it? [15:47] Is mmiotrace available in ubuntu by default? [15:56] is anyone familiar with network namespaces? I tried to put one of my interfaces in a netns and was unable to get an ip address for it inside the namespace. what to do? [16:01] where am i supposed to put the nameservers if not in /etc/resolv.conf? [16:03] Ice_Strike: it is really not recommended to run URLs through sudo. [16:04] Ice_Strike: you would need to read what the script does and undo it. [16:06] egrain: you can add to /etc/network/interfaces if you're on static IP (dns-nameservers x.x.x.x y.y.y.y) [16:06] is /etc/systemd/network/lalal.network DNS: myipofchoice also okay? [16:19] egrain: I guess you could ... you need a [match] section Name=enp3s0 and a [network] section with DNS=x.x.x.x [16:20] pavlos, thanks. [16:20] Are you using network manager? [16:20] systemd-networkd. [16:20] also, is there an expect package? i can't find it with apt-cache search. [16:20] or maybe there is a trick to it. [16:20] !info expect [16:21] expect (source: expect): Automates interactive applications. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.45-7 (zesty), package size 134 kB, installed size 286 kB [16:21] apt-get update, apt-get install expect ? [16:21] yes [16:21] Hello [16:21] E: Unable to locate package expect [16:21] how can I use speech dispatcher? [16:21] egrain: do you have universe enabled? [16:22] well, i look like mr universe, but i doubt that helps. [16:22] how do i enable one? [16:22] !universe [16:22] The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories. === juboxi is now known as jubo2 [16:23] tgm4883, thanks. that doesn't help me. i need commands not pictures. [16:25] egrain: read the second link then? [16:25] egrain: sorry, first link [16:25] phew. i thought i was stupid. [16:25] thanks. [16:30] does anyone knows a site (or books) with good material that can help me read about: known Linux viruses and Trojans (I don't need the viruses themselves, just materials about them). Thanks [16:31] I know this might not be the best forum for this....but I like it here :)...a lot of cool-headed guys [16:32] tgm4883, so this saucy universe is what i need then? seems to be the only one listed here. [16:32] egrain: no, you enable universe for whatever release you have [16:33] oh, my sourcelist is pretty empty. just one line in there that's it. [16:33] egrain: you should understand that the examples are just that, examples. They need to be modified for your specific situation [16:33] eg, if you're running trusty, then you should replace saucy with trusty [16:36] egrain: /etc/apt/sources.list.d is also part of apt, you might look at that dir too when configuring sources.. one line is rather exceptional though.. care to paste that here? [16:37] I'd keep /etc/apt/sources.list.d for non-official repositories, but it's more for organization anyway [16:37] one line does sounds weird though [16:38] tgm4883: i agree on /etc/apt/sources.list.d, but who knows what egrain is doing :p [16:39] glitsj16: he's trying to add universe [16:39] guys I have a canon mx870 printer that I want to use to scan a document to my ubuntu machine over wifi [16:39] it is connected to the network and works on windows machines [16:39] I would like to know if there is a way to gain is functionality (printing and scanning) on ubuntu... [16:39] tgm4883: yes, should be easy with the instructions you pointed him/her to [16:40] egrain: one line for 16.04 deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial universe [16:40] that would be a bad single line to have [16:41] he probably has "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial main, universe" but that still leaves out -updates and -security [16:42] all good. i copied my mom's source.list. [16:42] lankanmon: for printing it should work by just adding a network printer, should be detectable automatically. [16:42] scanning I'm not sure if that can be done via linux over a network. [16:42] another thing thoguh. her facebook games don't work. flashplugin update was just installed, but still no go. is this here the right place to ask, or should i find the flashplugin maintainers? [16:43] Sleaker: I can't seem to add the printer to begin with [16:43] I don't know the ip address and it does not show in my routers list ethere [16:43] it is not automatically detected [16:44] lankanmon: you should be able to figure out how to print a network config page from the scanner via the printers manual [16:44] err from the printer* [16:44] also looks like sane-pixma supports the 870 via network connectivity. [16:45] I can't really help with setup on that but you can try googling it. [16:46] Sleaker: Ill give it a try [16:46] thanks [16:48] !info cups-backend-bjnp [16:48] cups-backend-bjnp (source: cups-bjnp): printer backend for Canon BJNP protocol. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0-0ubuntu2 (zesty), package size 23 kB, installed size 62 kB [16:48] maybe this last answer is any help, https://askubuntu.com/questions/355506/how-to-install-canon-mx870-wireless-printer-in-ubuntu-13-10/686835 [16:53] what can I do with: The repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/inameiname/stable/ubuntu zesty Release' does not have a Release file.Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default.See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details.The repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/michael-gruz/canon/ubuntu zesty Release' does not have a Release file. [16:53] is there a way to bypass this? [16:54] lankanmon, no, that ppa has candidates up to xenial. see my previous post about bjnp [16:56] Is there a way to shut off Autostart activities from the CLI ? I have already removed it from ~/.config/autostart but am still having trouble [17:01] MWM, what services exactly? [17:01] service --status-all # shows a nice list of enabled services [17:03] MWM: systemctl disable [17:03] MWM: are you sure whatever you told to run is still running and you're not just having other issues? [17:04] oerheks: I was trying to add serviio to Autostart and after a reboot I get an error from my RDP client. I removed the symlink from ~/.config/autostart but still have the issue [17:05] tgm4883: it started immediately after I added serviio to the autostart menu and rebooted. no other changes I can think of [17:07] systemctl stop serviio && systemctl disable serviio > extracted from http://forum.serviio.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=23067 [17:07] service status-all doesnt seem to show anything unusual. I am still blaming adding serviio.sh to autostart. [17:09] hey all, I used dd to image a disk on a physical linux box, then I used vhdtool to convert it to a hyper-v disk (dodges thrown items). If I boot up a live CD I can mount and browse the filesystems without an issue. If I look at them with fdisk or gparted, I see just "/dev/sda" for example. There are no partitions (eg /dev/sda1 /dev/sdb1 etc). Gparted has all operations pertaining to modifying the filesystem greyed out. What would be the correct [17:09] approach to get this corrected? [17:11] serviio is not loaded. My feeling is that I have entered it into Autostart incorrectly and it is causing an issue before the server even starts. [17:12] which is why I want to clean it out of Autostart... but I cant even reach the GUI, so I need to do it from CLI. [17:12] what do I do if my data on my disk is all on "sda" and the disk has no "partitions" (sda1, sda2, etc) [17:32] ninjai: This is all within a VM? [17:34] soooo...can someone tell me why my server regenerates a xapian index? [17:35] I am always seeing changes in /var/lib/apt-xapian-index [17:35] wondering what it's all about [17:40] !info apt-xapian-index | jaith [17:40] jaith: apt-xapian-index (source: apt-xapian-index): maintenance and search tools for a Xapian index of Debian packages. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.47ubuntu13 (zesty), package size 55 kB, installed size 270 kB [17:41] nacc: thanks for that, but "apt-xapian-index does xyz for Xapian index" is a bit tautological. It's optional, yes, but why do I need it? Or don't I? How does it help? [17:41] jaith: read about it? [17:42] jaith: as in the manpages, the apt info on it, etc. [17:42] a bit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xapian [17:42] hey [17:43] nacc: man xapian: No manual entry for xapian [17:43] jaith: man update-apt-xapian-index [17:44] is there a new package other than unity-control-center? [17:45] nacc: thanks again, but "Rebuild the Apt Xapian Index" is not exactly informative: https://paste.ubuntu.com/24873912/ === whoami1 is now known as roy [17:46] Jakethepython, i don't understand your question, newer package ?? [17:46] hey [17:46] nacc: why would apt need a search index renewed all the time? I don't want automatic updates running on my server. [17:46] how can i make a custom distro? [17:47] Package unity-control-center is not available, but is referred to by another package. [17:47] his may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or [17:47] is only available from another source [17:47] Jordan_U, yes [17:47] roy, this is not really the channel for custom distro help, besides UCK is a dead project [17:47] !uck [17:47] uck is a tool that helps you customise official Ubuntu Live CDs (including Kubuntu/Xubuntu and Edubuntu) to your needs. See http://uck.sourceforge.net/ [17:53] jaith: apt doesn't use apt-xapian-index [17:53] jaith: axi-cache does [17:54] jaith: some flavors (looks like kylin and kubuntu) use the axi-cache to do searching, as it's quite fast [17:55] I need to reinstall it and it's not finding the Package [17:55] ninjai: Did the original physical drive really have no partition table or did you accidentally dd if=/dev/sda1 then dd of=/dev/sda ? [17:55] Jakethepython: what version of ubuntu? [17:56] 16.04 [17:56] !info unity-control-center xenial | Jakethepython [17:56] Jakethepython: unity-control-center (source: unity-control-center): utilities to configure the GNOME desktop. In component main, is optional. Version 15.04.0+16.04.20160705-0ubuntu1 (xenial), package size 868 kB, installed size 4572 kB [17:56] Jakethepython: run `sudo apt update; sudo apt policy unity-control-center` and pastebin the output [17:56] Jordan_U, I did a dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/partition1, then dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/partition2 for example [17:57] I'm guessing I should have done if=/dev/sda of=/mydisk ? [17:57] nacc: all of these man pages mention Apt. I still don't understand why my ubuntu server would need any kind of search index? [17:57] THe problem i;m having is when i click system settings or about this computer nothing happens [17:57] ninjai: OK, and how did you restore that back to a drive? [17:57] using VHDtool [17:57] to convert it to a vm disk [17:57] and attached to a VM [17:57] right now I'm scapping that and just using rsync after I define the partition layout... should work, right? lol [17:58] jaith: it's a cache for speeding up searches [17:58] ninjai: your partition table lives in the first 446 bytes of the disk (if it was mbr scheme) [17:58] jaith: if you don't care to search for packages, remove it [17:58] ninjai: Yes, you should have done if=/dev/sda. You've taken one disk with two partitions and "converted" it into two disks with no partition table. [17:58] Jordan_U, makes sense... thanks [17:58] nacc: I do very rarely search for packages using "apt-cache search" -- that's all it does? Is speed up apt-cache search? [17:58] ninjai: You're welcome. [17:59] debian installer question, when installing everything from a kickstart disc it has a period of 'retrieving packages' - since this is from a disc, is it actually downloading the packages somewhere onto the system? I don't see them in /var/cache/apt [18:01] ahh I think I answered my own question [18:01] looks like chrooting in and running ps shows that it's just an apt process running. [18:03] jaith: no, it's a *different* cache [18:03] jaith: why is that so hard to understand? [18:03] jaith: i never said apt-cache search, i said axi-cache [18:04] nacc: you said "searching for packages" -- i stated I've only ever searched for packages with apt-cache search, and every man page you've suggested *also* mentions Apt. Maybe that's why I assume it's related to apt? I have never once typed any command containing the string "axi-cache" [18:05] nacc: I appreciate your help. I'm just trying to understand what, if anything, would require a xapian index to be regenerated [18:05] jaith: no man page (update-apt-xapian-index or axi-cache) refers to any apt manpage. [18:06] jaith: they do refer to "the Apt Xapian Index", whenever they refer to apt as far as I can see [18:06] jaith: if you're unable to parse that as meaning the reason for the index is for xapian queries, not sure how to help you [18:07] nacc: respectfully, "apt" occurs right in that first package name and yes, the man page on my machine does in fact say "Rebuild the Apt Xapian index" [18:07] hi. Am having a problem with my integrated i211 network card (ubuntu 16.04). The link is constantly flaping. With my debian8 link is full 1G up. Nothing into dmesg &| syslog. How can I debug? [18:07] thanks :) [18:08] jaith: ok, i think you're being intentionally obtuse. So mentioning another program means the ohter program *must* be using this program? No, that's not how things work. [18:08] nacc: the second man page says "Query the Apt Xapian index." Not really sure how I can escape the conclusion that this search index is intended to support apt-related functionality [18:08] jaith: *Apt Xapian* functionality. [18:10] nacc: "Xapian is an Open Source Search Engine Library" and I think my belief that is has been installed to support search of apt packages is correct based on this page: https://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/apt-xapian-index [18:11] jaith: *apt* doesn't use it. [18:11] jaith: it is used by axi-cache, as I've said several times. [18:12] nacc: I've no idea what axi-cache is. the ubuntu package search yields no info: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=axi-cache&searchon=names -- and the man page ALSO MENTIONS APT on my machine. Description is "Query the Apt Xapian index" [18:13] jaith: it's not a package name. [18:13] jaith: it's a command [18:13] nacc: really not trying to be obtuse. If axi-cache does some other kind of search, I'd like to know what. I have never once in my life typed this command for any reason at all [18:13] :po [18:13] jaith: right, so don't use xapian-index? [18:14] jaith: you are being obtuse, whether you mean to or not. axi-cache is the frontend to the apt-xapian-index (axi) cache. [18:14] nacc: I would that it were so simple. Other processes on my machine might use axi-cache? Just trying to avoid breaking my production server :D [18:14] jaith: then don't change anything, you shouldn't be testing this in production anyways [18:15] nacc: I'm not testing anything. I'm trying to reduce the resource-consuming actions on my server if I don't need them and reduce the amount of file integrity notifications I receive. [18:15] hi, how can I fix this bluetoothd[1370]: connect error: Device or resource busy (16) [18:16] nacc: not sure why you are being so crabby and accusing me of being obtuse when I'm asking sincere questions. Maybe you shouldn't be answering questions here if you don't enjoy it? [18:17] jaith: you are changing a service (or thinking aobut it) in production, but not sure if you are going to break production. [18:17] jaith: so don't do it *in production* [18:18] jaith: also, do you understand how packaging and dependencies work? [18:18] nacc: you don't really know what the index is for, do you? [18:18] .. nice try, jaith .. [18:18] * oerheks_ facepalms [18:18] jaith: i have told you what it is for, fast searching of packages. [18:21] nacc: I suppose that's where my confusion lies. I've only *ever* used apt-cache apt-get and other apt commands to interact with packages on this particular server. Every man page related to the commands you've offered also say in their respective descriptions that they search an apt index -- but you've told me repeatedly "apt doesn't use it" [18:21] nacc: I appreciate your help, but "apt doesn't use it" seems to contradict everything I've been reading based on your suggestions. I hope you'll forgive me if I'm confused [18:21] jaith: please show me where they refer to an "apt index"? [18:22] jaith: you are reading "apt xapian" as "apt" and that is, as I've said several times, wrong! [18:22] https://wiki.debian.org/DebianPackageInformation#apt-xapian-index [18:23] jaith: right, so you probably have not once interactined with the xapian cache. I don't know why you thought you did, or why you think your command usage is relevant? [18:23] *interacted [18:25] nacc: Think I'm beginning to understand now. apt-cache search and axi-cache are both commands to search packages (axi-cache more full-featured perhaps?). I don't use axi-cache ever. [18:26] jaith: right, which is what i've been saying all along. I never said they were the same or even related to each other. [18:27] akik and everybody: I can confirm the same issue on a fresh install of ubuntu. I am pretty sure this is a bug. any idea what package I should report this for? ubiquity-installer? [18:28] dang, it's been reported already: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ecryptfs-utils/+bug/1670336 [18:28] Launchpad bug 1670336 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Zesty) "Ubiquity problem with encrypted home option: system hangs because of ecryptfs-setup-swap not working with swapfiles" [High,Triaged] [18:30] nacc: i had some concern that use of "apt-cache search" might use the xapian index. It is called "update-apt-xapian-index" after all and not "update-axi-cache-xapian-index." Seems to me that man pages could be improved. [18:31] nacc: thank you for your help. I hope you understand why I am confused. [18:37] oerheks_: thanks for that link. I think that cleared things up more than anything. Seems to me that package names and/or man pages could be much clearer. [18:37] jaith: unlikely that package names will change, you should be using apt-cache show if you want info on what a package does [18:43] Sleaker: thanks for that helpful suggestion. "show" on apt-xapian-index looks pretty informative. Man pages leave a lot to be desired. [18:43] jaith: that's cause the man-page is a use document, not necessarily a description [18:46] If I have a VHD that is 1 TB, but only 100 GB in use... is it possible to shrink it somehow? [18:46] whoops wrong channel [18:51] can someone tell me why my ubuntu freezes after some time??, like freezes in video playing and internet and applications [18:52] anyone?? [18:52] How would we know, it is *your* system [18:52] Did you check top ? [18:53] kenrin, Top, how? [18:53] !top [18:54] kenrin, means i choose ubuntu over windows to do some development learning in programing and linux is good to go but it's freezing all the way [18:54] oaulakh: it could be any number of things, and your description is really broad and vague [18:54] oaulakh: it might be a video driver, or the application you used to play video might have a bug [18:55] or a memory leak, or a bad hard drive, or faulty ram, or solar flares [18:55] oaulakh: or you might have some defective RAM or mobo memory [18:55] kenrin: solar flares lol [18:55] jaith, like freeze while playing video as i said before, and everything freeze while minimizing the program and opening something [18:55] jaith, basically everything freezes [18:55] oaulakh: so don't use that program to play video. ;) [18:55] That is vague, you got to do some diagnostics like check top when it is happening first [18:56] jaith, it's default player [18:56] oaulakh: you can open a terminal window by hitting ctrl-alt-t [18:56] type "free" and hit enter to see how much memory you have [18:57] k [18:57] oaulakh: you should also make sure all of your software gets updated. you should be prompted for this automatically by ubuntu, but if you want to force it to happen, run two commands in the terminal window [18:57] sudo apt-get update [18:57] sudo apt-get upgrade [18:57] http://paste.ubuntu.com/24874357/ [18:58] If all of your software is up to date and you still get crashes, it's probably your machine [18:58] jaith, everything is updated but don't want to upgrade [18:58] oh my you don't have much RAM [18:58] apt-get upgrade doesn't change your ubuntu version, it just upgrades whatever packages you have installed [18:58] jaith, k so it's ram right? [18:58] if you have Ubuntu 14, you keep Ubuntu 14 [18:58] full-upgrade brings new kernels too [18:59] jaith, but why windows 10 working perfect? [18:59] jaith, i installed ubuntu on pendrive! [18:59] oaulakh: 2GB is not a lot of RAM these days if you are trying to play video. I have 8GB of RAM and six cores and my machine is still sluggish with videos [19:00] jaith, so i should consider bye bye to ubuntu then till i get bigger configration [19:00] oaulakh: so you are running Ubuntu from a pen drive? that sounds like asking for trouble. Does the pen drive have any empty space left on it? [19:01] jaith, yup it's of 64gb and and ubuntu installed only on 6gb and rest is free [19:01] jaith, pendrive is also 3.0 [19:02] jaith, so plenty of space for the system right? [19:02] oaulakh: I'm not especially familiar with the behavior or Ubuntu when running from a usb drive. I would imagine that it would be more stable if you run it from a proper hard drive with a nice, fast SATA connection [19:03] jaith: it's the same experience that you get from an hdd/ssd, except slower [19:03] oaulakh: hard to say. Linux needs swap space for memory -- especially when the RAM runs low (the system will use a hard drive to store application data when RAM runs out) [19:03] jaith, well thanks for time by the way :) [19:03] jaith, i made swap of 2gb too but still! [19:04] oaulakh: it may also have something to do with file formats and/or permissions. a linux memory swap, I believe, is a different file system format than that used by the linux file storage file system [19:04] jaith, i got it it's low configurations [19:04] oaulakh: 2GB swap seems reasonable if you have 2GB of RAM -- again, I'm not especially familiar with the details of how ubuntu will operate under these circumstances [19:05] jaith, k [19:05] jaith, i was watching some lecture on edx and it gets freeze soon [19:05] jaith, i think i should switch or boot back to windows [19:05] oaulakh: the machine I'm working on right now is a multi-boot machine. I installed windows on one disk partition and ubuntu on another. When I boot up the machine, I can choose which OS to boot. [19:06] jaith, yeah same here [19:06] hi , how to learn professional video editing on ubuntu? I am new to video editing [19:06] oaulakh: in my case, I'm using a hard drive for Ubuntu though. It's stable AF [19:06] jaith, update my grub configrations accordingly [19:07] oaulakh: I'm NOT any kind of grub master. I wish you luck with that [19:07] hi! urgent, I just upgraded and mysql-common failed, now the website is down. what do? [19:07] Setting up mysql-common (5.7.18-0ubuntu0.16.04.1) ... [19:07] update-alternatives: error: alternative path /etc/mysql/my.cnf.fallback doesn't exist [19:07] dpkg: error processing package mysql-common (--configure): [19:08] i-make-robots, apt-get purge mysql-common and then load old version [19:10] i wish i knew what the old version was :( [19:11] i-make-robots, like apt-get remove mysql-common and then apt-get install mysql-common= [19:11] i-make-robots, k than thats the problem [19:11] check log than === Peetz0r is now known as Peetsnor [19:12] gedit /var/log/apt/term.log [19:12] i-make-robots, check which package was removed while its get upgrades gedit /var/log/apt/term.log [19:12] wtf.... i purged and installed mysql common, now i can't connect to db. i had to reinstall mysql-client? [19:13] i-make-robots: you can check via 'apt-cache policy mysql-common' .. that should give you a view on what versions are available of that package on your system [19:14] i-make-robots, do you have a SERVER!! [19:14] is that a question? [19:14] i-make-robots, yup [19:14] yes, ih ave a server [19:15] i-make-robots, and you dont know purge and remove difference :O [19:15] again, is that a question? [19:15] i-make-robots, yup [19:15] i didn't know purge or ...remove difference. [19:16] i-make-robots, then i should say sorry [19:16] i'm going to have to load a backup image of my server from 4h ago, aren't i. [19:16] i-make-robots, purge removes your configurations too [19:16] i don't care. as long as the DB is still where i left it reinstalling mysql with defaults should be fine. [19:17] i-make-robots, ok then restore and sorry for my stupid purge thing, use remove and install new version with package= [19:17] i'm back online. [19:18] you scared me there for a second :) [19:18] i-make-robots, congrats than [19:18] i-make-robots, is mysql db workig fine now? [19:18] i used the default latest packages. I think dpkg just went dumb for a minute with my specific version upgrade; [19:18] yeah, mysql is working fine. [19:18] can you see it too? https://www.marginallyclever.com/ [19:19] [ERROR]Cannot access secondary GPU - error: Could not load GPU driver, how do I fix bumbleed ? [19:19] i-make-robots, great [19:19] cool, thanks. [19:19] one less nightmare today [19:19] time for coffee and fixing 3d printer BS. [19:19] i-make-robots, by the way, i'm so much into robotics too bro [19:20] i-make-robots, are you a seller or entrepreneur [19:21] i-make-robots, i can make my 3D printer too great! [19:27] hello how accelerate a video mp4 with ffmpeg? [19:28] hi what does this mean anyone aware of this or its normal take a look at the red square lines please https://postimg.org/image/l0ln09wu5/ [19:29] joze_: you defined in your system a vpn server with name 'bk-server' but there is no conf file corresponding to it, presumably [19:29] joze_: and the postinst of the package probably is assuming such a file exists and not handling the case properly where it doesn't [19:32] uruk7: change the rate [19:35] nacc: no I haven't seriously [19:36] joze_: `rgrep 'bk-server' /etc` in a pastebin (depending on what the grep returns, you may need to remove passwords from that output) [19:36] no is problem of rate is problem of time i need accelerate the video time is 35 minutes i need a video of 15 minutes === Peetsnor is now known as Peetz0r [19:39] nacc: nothing outputs from `rgrep 'bk-server' /etc` [19:39] nacc: I've checked earlier there is no folder or what so ever with that name [19:42] joze_: how about 'ls /run/openvpn/*.pid' [19:42] ubuntu 16 im doing systemctl restart networking and it's not grabbing the new ip i set [19:42] anyone know of any Intel Q170 SATA issues on 14.04.5 (HWE Kernel 4.4) [19:43] not seeing anything on kernel.org === ec is now known as purr === purr is now known as elliottcable [19:56] nacc: lost connection with server [19:56] nacc: thank for your time and help [20:10] I found it ffmpeg -i "aaa.mp4" -filter:v "setpts=0.5*PTS" bbb.mp4 but only work without sound [20:16] Looks like my Ubuntu install has , gone quite wrong really and I don't know why, on a normal boot it now takes me to emergency mode, this is a updated 16.10 to 17.04. if I go into recvoery mode and do a fsck file system check, or it seems try and do a dpkg, I can then go in normalley after that [20:16] I mean I can resume the boot and get in [20:17] I can't just load it up normally for some reason now though [20:17] any ideas? [20:27] oaulakh - thanks again for the help [20:28] tell oaulakh - thanks again for the help [20:28] sebsebseb: 1) Any hints in the boot log ' journalctl -b -0 ' ; 2) what shoes from a liveDVD of a file system check ; 3) what shows for hard drive health from a smartctl check ? [20:29] Bashing-om: yeah I looked at the logs did the log options [20:29] but came up with a lot, but nothing useful it seems [20:31] Bashing-om: I tried to mount and use the mx 4 ubuntu phone earlier, so could hopefully move files, had like a mtp thing up, didn't work, been having issues with that recently diffenret cables, even with windows, but then this latest cable, sort of with Ubuntu, and no problem with Windows, I didn't unmount that properly at first, maybe thats related [20:31] sebsebseb: looking to see if the hard drive gets nounted read only for some unknown reason . System detects a problem and will mount read only to protect it's self . [20:31] Bashing-om: after rsuming a normal boot from recovery mode, I even put that back in and mounted and unmounted, but no difference [20:32] Bashing-om: if I do the fix file system option or broken packages, ekither one, it works and can do a normal boot [20:32] Bashing-om: with ng thte particulaer install iin past had one or two issues, getting the system error message coming up at times, after trying to do a snap or ppa [20:32] but thats long gone it seems [20:33] Bashing-om: a few interfaces not really working too, after that kind of thing as well, and was like that when it was 16.10 as well, so I do intend to re install eventually, but not yet, and this latest issue doesn't make sense to me why [20:34] sebsebseb: Well. not that I am the smartest cookie in this jar, but seems to me that as ut happens every boot that there is a problem - in that case the system will mount read only . and one can then do litle . [20:34] Bashing-om: as what happens? [20:35] Bashing-om: right but this is new, I didn't do anything unusaul earliler === jstein_ is now known as jstein [20:35] Is this a dualboot w/windows ? [20:38] sebsebseb: Presently all is speculation . Nother possibility is a graphic's driver glitching up ' sudo lshw -C display ' tell any tales ? [20:54] Bashing-om: lets see === grumble is now known as Guest77353 === rumble is now known as grumble [21:14] hi all. I'm having some trouble installing cups. It's saying I have unmet dependencies. Any advice? http://paste.ubuntu.com/24875170/ [21:14] need to print some tickets in the next hour..... [21:15] looks like you've got some PPAs that're in the way [21:18] Here's sources.list: https://paste.ubuntu.com/24875192/ and here's sources.list.d: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24875194/ [21:19] idk what could be in the way. this printer has worked before, but it's been almost a year. [21:19] I've done a reinstall and switched to gnome since then. === JanC is now known as Guest55726 === JanC_ is now known as JanC [21:21] my guesses are as good as yours which ppa is at fault [21:23] nicomachus: I don't think there's a quick fix. if you really need to print something short term, boot a live system? [21:26] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/1676621 [21:26] Launchpad bug 1676621 in cups (Ubuntu) "cups : Depends: libcups2 (= 2.1.3-4) but 2.1.3-4ubuntu0.2 is to be installed" [Undecided,Confirmed] [21:27] Try the solution in that thread nicomachus [21:35] how i inside to iptables in config? [21:36] hi I am looking for a recommendation of software that is used to make images of a microSD card that uses a desktop GUI (not something like clonezilla) does anything for linux exist? or will I have to use windows? [21:38] Sabotender: dd? [21:38] why the gui requirement [21:38] because I hate CLI utilities. they suck. [21:38] hahaha [21:39] I'm a point and click kind of guy [21:40] gnome disks [21:41] Sabotender: cli utilities don't suck. They are just more powerful [21:41] I just want to make an ISO out of a complete microSD card, no muss, no fuss. [21:41] tgm4883: my opinion. [21:41] use dd then [21:42] Sabotender: then you're opinion is wrong ;P. But in any case, use gnome disks [21:42] * Sabotender sighs [21:42] thanks [21:42] ... [21:42] someone needs a bop on the head [21:45] someone [21:45] ? [21:45] how i inside to iptables in config [21:45] ? [21:45] what is commands from terminal? [21:45] mircx1: i don't understand the question. rephrase? [21:45] mircx1: I'm not sure what you're asking [21:45] i want inside to iptables [21:46] yea, that doesn't make sense [21:46] but from gedit [21:47] ? [21:47] mircx1: you can't 'inside' to iptables. 'inside' is not a verb. [21:47] mircx1: can you rephrase the question, not using the word inside? [21:47] Guessing not a native speaker... [21:47] from terminal [21:47] You need to locate the file where your iptables rules are stored. [21:49] i want delete something from iptables [21:49] but the commands i dont know [21:50] hey all [21:50] I've got multiple GPUs (nvidia), must each one be configured in the X11 config? [21:50] mircx1 iptables -L -v [21:50] That will give you the current rules. [21:50] michael_mbp: no [21:50] But you need to locate the file where iptables rules are stored if you want to change anything permanently. [21:51] ppf: some context, I'm looking to OC them [21:51] I'm able to OC gpu0 [21:51] but not gpu1 [21:51] I was able to enable Coolbits 12 for Device0 in X11 conf. [21:53] if i want delete it [21:53] tcp spt:7777 ctsta [21:53] from iptables what is commands for it [21:53] ? [21:57] schweet! [21:57] figured it out === CodeMouse92 is now known as CodeMouse92__ [22:05] I've never run into this BIOS/UEFI thing before, anyone know what's going on? [22:06] Installing 16.04 LTS, booting from a thumb drive, on a Dell Inspiron 5566. [22:06] "This machine's firmware has started the installer in UEFI mode but it looks like there may be existing operating systems already installed using "BIOS compatibility mode". If you continue to install Debian in UEFI mode, it might be difficult to reboot the machine into any BIOS-mode operating systems later." [22:08] which debian version is this? [22:10] ubuntu desktop 16.04.2 LTS, which I downloaded twenty minutes ago. [22:10] oh, so i guess that message is just misleading. [22:11] yeah [22:12] !efi | puff [22:12] puff: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI [22:14] puff: So systems / mainboards with UEFI firmware systems often allow you to boot an OS in either UEFI or 'compatibility mode', which is basically old BIOS. the boot code of those installations isnt compatible. and this installation has detected that there are existing installations on your target storage device / hard disk / ssd which wer einstalled for BIOS booting. and that the installer was started using UEFI booting. [22:15] so it warns you that if you go ahead and install for EUFI booting you won't be able to multi-boot easily. [22:15] Hm. [22:15] ÜUEFI [22:15] *UEFI [22:16] now if you don't plan to multi-boot anyways, you can probably just ignore this warning. [22:17] Okay, thanks. So the exisitng installations are all disposable/hosed. I think one is a now-messed-up win7 that came with the machine, the second is the result of a failed attempt to install ubuntu 15.4. [22:17] We're planning to select "erase disk and install ubuntu" anyway, so if I understand you correctly, I have nothing to worry about. [22:18] Is there a reason why 'apport' isn't disabled by default for ubuntu? It always comes enabled in a base install, and it always shows you "Something has crashed" or something to that effect, which is very anoying and unhelpful? [22:19] Bashing-om, tomreyn: Thanks for the help! [22:19] puff: i'm not sure whether windows 7 is able to boot off uefi. if you'd plan to install that later for multi-booting and it doesn't work with UEFI it'd be better to set your UEFI for BIOS compatibility booting now and install ubuntu that way. [22:19] supercom32: yes it's annoying when stuff crashes, if there was only some way to figure out what was broken and get it fixed... [22:19] puff: other than that i'd keep UEFI since it's the main development target for operating systems these days. [22:21] tomreyn: cool, thanks. He says the chance of needing dual/windows is "small" so... [22:32] i'm getting low disk space error, however df reports still some free space: /dev/sda1 11G 9,1G 1,2G 89% / [22:33] Is there a question there? [22:35] says there's still 1.2 gb left, why would low disk space error pop up? [22:36] I'd consider 11% left to be "low". Could be it is popping up to inform you it is low. [22:37] its low because at 10% it will lock you out untill you do something about it [22:37] it will lock you out? [22:37] limit all but the admin [22:38] are you sure? [22:38] yes [22:38] That seems unnecessary [22:38] also, bad design [22:38] i disagree [22:39] kk4ewt: 10% is a bad number to "lock out" people at [22:39] why so they have a chance to totally file the drive and you start loosing logs and other data [22:39] lock out? [22:39] fill the drive [22:40] kk4ewt: because 10% of 1TB is a heck of a lot of free space still.... [22:40] my question is why is his /dev/sda1 so small [22:40] running in virtual box [22:40] tgm4883, i am guessing that is not his / [22:40] bumbar_: I'd say that you do have low space, which is why it's throwing that warning [22:41] bumbar_, so what is /dev/sda [22:41] kk4ewt: this is academic now, 10% is a terrible number to do any locking out. Can you point at any documentation? [22:41] i'm trying to sync a bitcoin like daemon, and it's aborting with low disk space: https://dpaste.de/Np5d [22:41] bumbar_, so what is /dev/sda1 [22:42] / or what [22:42] kk4ewt: i believe the paste above showed it to be / [22:42] /dev/sda1 is / [22:42] so yes he is too low on space for the app is wanting to run [22:43] bumbar_: what is producing that message you dpaste'd? [22:43] df output: https://dpaste.de/Xofb [22:43] bumbar_: presumably it is your application, which wants more than 1 G free? [22:44] yeah, but it stops writing to disk before it's 100% full [22:45] bumbar_: what is it? [22:45] bumbar_: the application? [22:45] digibyte daemon [22:45] bumbar_: how do you know that? maybe it tries to start writing, and then it fails at some point and deletes its partially written file? [22:45] bumbar_: or maybe it is just looking at your system and telling you that there isn't enough space for itself [22:45] bumbar_: seems like that's all a question for digibyte [22:47] can i reduce /dev/shm and /sys/fs/cgroup tmpfs? they're 2 gigs each [22:48] tgm4883, https://serverfault.com/questions/10475/how-much-space-should-you-leave-free-on-a-hard-disk [22:48] bumbar_: those are both virtual filesystems [22:49] nacc, meaning they don't actually take disk space? [22:50] when i created disk file, i've set it to 15 gb, and only 11 gb is usuable (at least as df reports) [22:50] tomreyn: Looks like it installed and all, whee, thanks again. [22:50] Bashing-om: And thank you too :-). [22:51] welcome ;) [22:51] bumbar_: correct. [22:53] What's the current "standard" tool for installing software on ubuntu? [22:53] apt [22:53] I still use apt-get (well, aptitude, it's much more civilized). [22:54] I thought everybody was using "Ubuntu Software Center" or something, these days. [22:54] That is just a frontend... [22:54] kk4ewt: 5%, not 10, also didn't seem to be what the user was talking about since either A) they were logged in as the admin user and thus not stopped by that as you suggested or B) logged in as a non-admin user in which case df wouldn't show the 5% as free space (as the link you posted suggested). In any case, I applaud you for actually backing up your statement with a link [22:54] My friend isn't as experienced with Ubuntu, so I want to steer him towards the more mainstream stuff. === DocMAX is now known as petaflops [22:54] apt is the way to go [22:54] Cool. [22:55] or software center if they need a gui [22:55] https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/6hm80e/employer_makes_us_clock_out_when_not_busy_and_sit/dizucad/?context=10000 [22:55] "I don't believe I stuttered." [22:55] ShaRose: wrong channel? [22:56] tgm4883: Does software center let him tweak the 3rd party distros? [22:56] define "tweak" [22:56] tgm4883: That's the main thing I'd suggest for a newb, otherwise I prefer CLI. [22:56] kenrin: enable [22:56] puff: IDK if you can do that directly in software center, but "software sources" you can do that in [22:56] there is a place to set your repos in there [22:56] ah,okay. [22:56] kenrin: in where? [22:56] if you can do it in software center, then it's likely just pointing you at software sources [22:56] guess i'll just have to create a new image. thanks for help guys [22:56] what tgm4883 said [22:56] it opens the sources [22:57] puff: look in /etc/apt/sources.list [22:57] bumbar_: IMO, 15GB is pretty small for a desktop box, even if you have a separate /home partition [23:00] pavlos: Cool. [23:00] tgm4883: Not in software center but there's "Software & Updates" for that. [23:13] isn't that MacOS [23:17] is this normal in ubuntu server 16.04? https://postimg.org/image/rhwn001rt/ [23:19] joze_: openvpn? [23:19] tgm4883: when I press tab after openvpn i get those two option that appear beneath [23:20] tgm4883: I've never seen openvpn@server [23:20] joze_: if you do 'ls -l' do you have openvpn@server as a file? [23:21] tgm4883: not that i know about it [23:21] joze_: check... [23:21] not in the current directory [23:21] joze_: I don't run openvpn server, but I would say that is probably not normal. [23:21] it is not normal === Peetz0r is now known as pochenk [23:22] and am having issues with 16.04 [23:22] joze_: well if you already know it's not normal, why are you asking? [23:22] and openvpn [23:22] I wan to be sure and I'm new to 16.04 so i thought something changed not sure [23:23] or it might be something wrong with apt repository [23:23] and openvpn package [23:24] I might go and ask in #openvpn === philroche_ is now known as philroche === led2 is now known as led1 === JoseeAntonioR is now known as jose [23:26] anyone here know what is the default value for the UFW setting 'default_output_policy'? === exio is now known as exio4 === pochenk is now known as Peetz0r === FManTropyx is now known as Guest64448 [23:33] when I see this in server.log wis it the ear file that needs the fonts? "Font 'Times-Roman' is not available to the JVM" what is resolution steps? [23:40] wis it the ear file that needs the fonts? I think you need to reprase in a way that makes sense. === DocMAX is now known as petaflops === petaflops is now known as DocMAX [23:48] does anybody know the PS1 that this guy using? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3ATD7hxj9M&t=18s