| axisys | with zfs all bets are off.. I am from solaris and I loved zfs.. but I am not sure ubuntu will win the fight with oracle on zfs license.. so may be btrfs is a better route? | 03:51 |
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| axisys | lot of ubuntu server using zfs or rather btrfs? | 03:52 |
| genii | openzfs is pretty mature | 03:55 |
| axisys | genii: ah.. I forgot about that.. so people are using it? | 04:00 |
| genii | Yes | 04:00 |
| genii | ..more than btrfs, anyhow | 04:00 |
| axisys | genii: which package offers openzfs ? | 04:01 |
| genii | zfsutils | 04:02 |
| axisys | I see it https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZFS | 04:02 |
| axisys | genii: thanks a lot | 04:02 |
| genii | Glad to assist | 04:02 |
| axisys | so I guess, if I use /home as a zfs partition then I cannot use quota per user | 04:05 |
| drab | yeah when I said zfs I meant openzfs. ppl definitely use it, ZOL list is pretty active and community very competent afaics | 04:05 |
| drab | I've been building new infra nodes with it for 6 months now and converting more stuff to it | 04:06 |
| drab | so far I've very happy with what I've seen and snapshotting/send/receive has made a whole lot of things easier | 04:06 |
| axisys | drab: so user quota will not work same way as ext4 unless I create one zfs partition per user | 04:07 |
| drab | plus I use a lot of lxd and zfs is the default backend since it's, like genii said, actually more mature than btrfs at this point | 04:07 |
| axisys | also /boot partition will still have to be ext* .. unless boot works to with zfs like solaris does? | 04:08 |
| drab | axisys: I don't know how ti works on solaris, but on linux datasets aren't really partitions even tho they kinda look like it | 04:08 |
| drab | but they are completely flexible, kinda like the lvm/vg stuff, but much much easier | 04:08 |
| drab | axisys: boot can work, but that's where I haven't pushed the issue yet | 04:08 |
| axisys | drab: right .. datasets.. it has been 5_ yrs since I played with it in solaris.. we mostly linux shop now | 04:08 |
| drab | I use a small raid1 for that or a sataDOM | 04:09 |
| axisys | drab: I wont use sataDOM, I like disk hot swaps .. in anycase.. so a raid1 and then rest 10 disks as single disk lun and then create zpools ? | 04:10 |
| axisys | raid1 will be used for ext2 for /boot | 04:10 |
| drab | fair enough, we don't have large budgets and the bays are too precious for us | 04:11 |
| drab | that's what I do, yeah, minus the lun thing if you mean using the onboard raid | 04:11 |
| drab | generally the recommendation is to not mix hw raid with zfs | 04:11 |
| axisys | drab: yes single disk raid0 logical units | 04:11 |
| axisys | drab: but then I have to bypass raid .. hmm | 04:12 |
| drab | up to you, everything I read when I picked it up 6 months ago said to avoid hw raid and just do passthrough | 04:12 |
| drab | if you google this stuff out you'll see most folks flash their raid controller in IT mode/passthrough | 04:12 |
| axisys | ofcourse I wont have to worry taking the server down to replace raid controller battery :-) | 04:12 |
| drab | fwiw root on zfs is possible and there's tutorials about it and "it works" | 04:13 |
| drab | it just didn't seem stable enough to me when I looked at it | 04:13 |
| drab | too much thinkering for a server | 04:13 |
| drab | tinkering* | 04:13 |
| axisys | I won't do it now 1000s of users rely on this server :-) | 04:14 |
| drab | :) | 04:14 |
| axisys | drab: how about user quota ? | 04:14 |
| axisys | drab: short from dataset per user :-) | 04:14 |
| drab | that's how I do it, create a /homes DS, then one DS per user, works very well for me, but I'm not doing 1000s of users, maybe at that scale something works differently | 04:16 |
| drab | still, on paper that's the design I've seen implemented and it makes sense to me, it's a single instance command including quota setting if you use properties and inheritance | 04:16 |
| axisys | drab: yes I am familiar with zfs.. built solaris containers with zpool and all other magics.. but just out of practice, so need a refresher.. | 04:17 |
| axisys | they call it zones / containers depending on the context.. :-) | 04:18 |
| drab | cool, never used solaris | 04:19 |
| drab | gtg, ttyl, best of luck with setting the new box up | 04:19 |
| axisys | drab: thanks for your help! | 04:19 |
| lordievader | Good morning | 08:00 |
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| IShavedForThis_ | whats the best program for automatic plex renaming for ubuntu server? | 17:07 |
| tomreyn | IShavedForThis_: what is "plex renaming"? | 17:09 |
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| hehehe | hi | 17:23 |
| hehehe | http://readcomicbooksonline.net/ | 17:24 |
| hehehe | who here used scaleway bare metal servers? | 17:52 |
| hehehe | any good? | 17:52 |
| hehehe | https://www.scaleway.com/baremetal-cloud-servers/ | 17:52 |
| hehehe | haha | 17:52 |
| hehehe | The C1 server has a 4-cores ARMv7 CPU with 2GB of RAM and a 1 Gbit/s network card. | 17:56 |
| hehehe | :D | 17:56 |
| hehehe | All of these servers are designed for the cloud and for horizontal scaling. | 17:59 |
| hehehe | ... | 17:59 |
| hehehe | so nice | 17:59 |
| hehehe | also | 18:04 |
| hehehe | how to prevent admin from planting logical bomb etc? | 18:04 |
| hehehe | I think all commands should be sent in text file reviewed by admin 2 | 18:05 |
| hehehe | I wonder if verelox girl chats here | 18:06 |
| hehehe | why did u deleted all customers data ? :D | 18:06 |
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