[00:28] <opekktar>  /msg nickserv help register
[00:32] <dr_horrible> C
[00:33] <ChaiTRex> D
[00:48] <pavlos> opekktar: send that to the freenode tab
[01:22] <azizLIGHT> how do i turn up the bass in the sound
[01:22] <Delphin> I want to reinstall the core networking stuff for ubuntu since it got messed up, how do I do this? thanks
[01:23] <Dave_Elec> azizLIGHT: find some Equalizer
[01:23] <azizLIGHT> will it do it system wide?
[01:23] <azizLIGHT> i have equaliuzer on my music player but i want it overall
[01:23] <azizLIGHT> systrem wide BASSSSSS
[01:23] <Dave_Elec> azizLIGHT: yes pulse audio equalizer does that
[01:24] <azizLIGHT> oh ok, i wonder if there is gui for it?
[01:24] <Dave_Elec> azizLIGHT: it has gui
[01:25] <Dave_Elec> azizLIGHT: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/10/system-wide-pulseaudio-equalizer.html
[01:25] <azizLIGHT> oh sweet
[01:26] <azizLIGHT> time to turnt up n git down with the free as in beer wub wubs
[01:29] <Ben64> Delphin: what did you do and how is it messed up
[01:36] <J3553> Morning/Evening all. I am running btrfs under Ubuntu 14.04. Accessing some files is causing the system to completely lock up and it shows btrfs in the dmesg. Is there anywhere I might find the trace file?
[01:38] <azizLIGHT> Dave_Elec: man this equalizer kicks butt
[01:39] <azizLIGHT> love it!!!
[01:39] <Dave_Elec> azizLIGHT: tnx, i'm also using it
[01:42] <glitsj16> azizLIGHT: https://github.com/nullEuro/apply-equalizer might also be of interest to you, now you have pulseaudio-equalizer
[01:43] <azizLIGHT> oh snap
[01:43] <azizLIGHT> you guys are on a roll tonight
[01:44] <glitsj16> where would we be without audio ;)
[01:44] <azizLIGHT> i hear ya, loud and clear :P
[01:47] <Delphin> Ben64: well I have Xen installed and I have virbr0 in ifconfig I want to get rid of, also virbr0-nic
[01:49] <azizLIGHT> oh man i am actually in love with music because of this equalizer
[01:49] <azizLIGHT> can i say thank you again Dave_Elec
[01:50] <bazhang> azizLIGHT, could we please take the chat to another channel
[01:50] <azizLIGHT> sorry
[01:52] <glitsj16> J3553: you might find more help in #btrfs for your issue
[01:54] <Jordan_U> J3553: Btrfs on such an old release is a questionable decision. What kernel are you running?
[02:04] <J3553> glitsj16: thanks, no-one awake there it seems :(
[02:07] <J3553> Jordan_U: its an older kernel, 3.18.10-031810. I have some problem with 4.2/4.4 with kernel panics and havent had time to look into that. System has been working on this kernel without any btrfs crash for a long time now.
[02:08] <J3553> Jordan_U: strangely, I tried a Manjaro Live DVD due to its later kernel and btrfs tools (4.10) and also had a crash using rsync. I booted back into Ubuntu so I can try to capture the trace.
[02:12] <Delphin> how do I find out what kernal is booting and change the boot options?
[02:13] <EldonMcGuinness> uname -a should tell you user current version iirc
[02:19] <Bashing-om> !grub | Delphin
[02:56] <iopq> I tried to enable my onboard graphics at the same time as my dedicated graphics card and Ubuntu 16.04 won't boot with it enabled
[02:56] <iopq> My dedicated card is AMD, my onboard is Intel
[03:11] <sirru5h> Howdy Everyone
[03:21] <Delphin> I dont have any other interfaces besides lo when I run ifconfig -a
[03:22] <Delphin> I want to install my eth0 or whatever though
[03:22] <Delphin> oh derp I think I know why
[03:31] <sirru5h> Delphin, are you trying to install using a VM?
[03:41] <lankanmon> Hey guys, how do you guys backup your files? Do you use the built in backup app or use somethin else? I am open for suggestions as I am planning on changing harddrives to an SSD and would like to make the change as easy as possible (with little risk of data loss)...
[03:42] <Bashing-om> !backup | lankanmon
[03:43] <lankanmon> Thank you!
[03:45] <Bashing-om> lankanmon: However, I am a strong believer in a fresh celan install. I do copy off my personal data and maintain a system change log .
[03:45] <Bashing-om> clean*
[03:46] <lankanmon> Bashing-om: I also like a clean install... so I will not be cloning my drive to the new one. I do however want to ensure all data is safe and possibly also easily transfer the installed apps (and if possible settings)
[03:47] <lankanmon> In windows I used ninite to install all (most of) the apps i use easily. Is there a way to do this with ubuntu? maybe via package manager or apt?
[03:49] <Bashing-om> lankanmon: ' dpkg --get-selections ' . See : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=261366 .
[03:49] <lankanmon> Bashing-om: Thats amazing. I think thats what I am looking for... Thanks!
[03:51] <Bashing-om> lankanmon: :) 'buntu been around for a while - nothing new under the sun :)
[03:52] <lankanmon> Yeah thats how it seems...
[03:52] <lankanmon> I have been able to transfer completely to ubuntu except for a few thing that I still can not do without programs on windows.
[03:53] <lankanmon> but overall, I am now on ubuntu as my daily driver
[03:58] <Bashing-om> lankanmon: Took me a while to make the transition . But I am now a happy happy camper .
[04:04] <thewillo> how can i upgrade from 16.04 to 17.04?
[04:04] <thewillo> without GUI
[04:07] <Bashing-om> thewillo: prompt=normal on the file /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades ; fully updated, and terminal command ' sudo do-release-upgrade ' .
[04:11] <thewillo> Bashing-om, thanks
[04:19] <Bashing-om> thewillo: :) also proprietary drivers will break , revert all proprietary softwares to open source .
[04:19] <thewillo> I don't have any
[04:19] <thewillo> It's a cloud instance
[04:19] <thewillo> stupid thing didn't offer latest ubuntu
[04:19] <thewillo> only LTS
[04:21] <thewillo> oh they do offer 17.04 lol
[04:21] <thewillo> It wasn't presented to me when I did the initial thingy
[04:24] <sirru5h> thewillo, if it's a server then LTS would be a good choice
[04:24] <thewillo> no it's a compiling box
[04:24] <thewillo> I need newer compiling toolchains and installing them on 16.04 makes a mess
[04:32] <RBoreal_Frippery> Just attached 4k screen to laptop ; ubuntu 14.04 installation been going for many years. Now in chrome when playing from for example youtube (or other video sources), things go ok for a while, then freeze, all 4 cores 100% and while desktop freezes for a minute, then ok for a minute, then freeze again. No chamge except for 4f screen.
[04:32] <RBoreal_Frippery> Playing the same videos on firefox works fine
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> RBoreal_Frippery: tried chromium with pepperflash yet?
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> RBoreal_Frippery: chromium is the ubuntu alternative for chrome
[04:34] <RBoreal_Frippery> Is this a known issue with standard chrome? I have never had any other issues using it for many years.
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> RBoreal_Frippery: well if firefox plays is correctly, must be a chrome issue
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> RBoreal_Frippery: start chrome from terminal perhaps, we might catch usefull errors
[04:44] <sartan> Hello - Working with some 14.04 virtual appliances with many nics, and the interface names seem to be changing and I'm having trouble controlling them - thought this was based on pci order or udev.d/70-net-persist-rules type files. Tips?
[04:44] <sartan> upgrading isn't an option
[05:12] <thewillo> anyone know a working ppa with openjdk-7 in it?
[05:13] <thewillo> all the ones i find on google are not working, 404's
[05:13] <thewillo> I need openjdk-7 for a while until i finish porting this project to 8
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> thewillo: we dont support ppa's here mate
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> !java | thewillo
[05:13] <thewillo> lotuspsychje, where should I ask then?
[05:14] <thewillo> or any way to install openjdk-7, doesn't need to be ppa
[05:14] <thewillo> do I have to manually install it?
[05:24] <thewillo> well, i guess manually installing it deb by deb
[05:24] <thewillo> i can do that
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> thewillo: apt-cache search jdk
[05:33] <thewillo> only oracle lotuspsychje
[05:33] <thewillo> they took out openjdk-7
[05:34] <thewillo> I'll have to install the debs manually
[05:50] <iopq> I went into the bios and turned on my integrated GPU and Ubuntu won't boot
[05:50] <iopq> I turned it off and it boots again, how do I make it work with 16.04?
[05:51] <thewillo> if you install the nvidia drivers, you can use nvidia's control panel to default to integrated gpu
[05:58] <thewillo> Okay, I got it working... Had to find the .deb files manually and find their dependencies and etc... nonsense that they would remove that
[05:59] <thewillo> what if you're pulling a project up that is old and uses java 7?
[06:03] <iopq> thewillo I use AMD
[06:04] <thewillo> iopq, oh sorry
[06:04] <thewillo> iopq, well, do you have proprietary drivers installed?
[06:18] <iopq> thewillo yes, I have AMDPRO installed for vulkan
[06:19] <thewillo> iopq, I would try uninstalling them and using the default opensource drivers
[06:19] <thewillo> it's required for a variety of things with nvidia, I don't know ATI, but i assume similar
[06:19] <iopq> thewillo then I won't have vulkan support, so games will run slowly
[06:20] <thewillo> well, I don't know then...
[06:22] <thewillo> you could edit your x configuration manually to use the intel card before you reboot into BIOS/UEFI and then boot with the intel chip
[06:23] <thewillo> I can't help you with that though, because I don't know how to edit xorg config files
[06:24] <thewillo> nvidia does that stuff for me
[06:27] <iopq> this worked in 17.04, but there was a regression in a game that used Wine so I couldn't use 17.04...
[08:13] <matozoid> hi
[08:16] <matozoid> !seen sabdfl
[08:28] <kristhian> i recently installed chrome via ppa on my ubuntu 16.04 xenial, i opened it via command line with google-crome http://www.facebook.com
[08:28] <kristhian> now when i am opening it, it always redirects me to fb page
[08:29] <kristhian> does anyone know here how to reset it back to default?
[08:29] <kristhian> tried resetting it back to default but, still doesnt work
[08:29] <kristhian> even tried clearing cache
[08:33]  * kristhian brb
[08:39] <florentinap> Hi; I'm going to share my desktop (or at leaset my terminal) for my students and I need to see their desktops on mine. We are all on a same wifi network. I'm using ArchLinux and they use Ubuntu. Is there any software to do that?
[08:40] <Ben64> screen?
[08:40] <Ben64> oh i only read the first bit
[08:41] <florentinap> yes, sharing screen
[08:41] <Ben64> no i meant the software called screen
[08:41] <Ben64> you can share a terminal easily with that
[08:42] <florentinap> Ah, the screen software.
[08:48] <EriC^^> how can i check the power consumption of gpu on ubuntu?
[09:18] <fadavi> hello there. how can i fix these boot errors?
[09:18] <fadavi> `$ journalctl -p 3`  => http://paste.ubuntu.com/24889019/
[09:20] <ikonia> fadavi: you're doing this in a vm without direct hardware access it would seem
[09:20] <fadavi> ikonia: no, its on a real machine. real fresh install of Ubuntu Gnome 17.04 on my laptop (ASUS N552VW)
[09:21] <ikonia> then why is it trying to access virtual devices delivered by spice
[09:22] <fadavi> ikonia: its my own question, too :D there are some boot errors in journalctl..
[09:23] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[09:39] <iCherry> osx yosemite-like window borders dont seem to work. Anybody know a fix?
[09:41] <jay_> is it possible to disable ufw and use iptables in ubuntu 16.04 ?
[09:43] <akik> jay_: ufw creates iptables rules
[09:44] <jay_> akik: I got it it's just a wrapper but can I disable ufw and enable iptables and what are the implciations?
[09:44] <akik> jay_: there's no ready made functionality for it. you'd need to script it yourself
[09:44] <akik> sudo ufw disable gets rid of the ufw settings
[09:46] <jay_> akik: should i use both? because I don't know nothing about ufw and translating iptables in order to fit ufw before.rules syntax seems not "easy" in particularly the NAT rules etc
[09:46] <jay_> akik so if I disable ufw service I still get iptables?
[09:47] <akik> jay_: iptables is not a service, but a command to control the netfilter
[09:47] <akik> jay_: ufw is just a friendly helper for iptables
[09:47] <jay_> akik: yes I know about netfilter, tables chains rules etc
[09:48] <jay_> the thing is if I disable ufw where should i write my rules in order to be sure that they get loaded upon reboot for example any particular script?
[09:49] <akik> jay_: that's exactly my problem too. i couldn't figure out the rules syntax for my custom iptables script to insert
[09:50] <akik> for ubuntu, it's ufw or you do it completely yourself
[09:54] <jay_> iptables has a very similiar interface with ufw it look easy I think I've found it just need to disable service and use iptables. To save rules prior to 16.04 use: sudo apt-get install iptables-persistent 16.05 and forward
[09:54] <jay_> sudo netfilter-persistent save     sudo netfilter-persistent reload
[09:54] <jay_> akik: here https://askubuntu.com/questions/119393/how-to-save-rules-of-the-iptables
[10:12] <friendlyguy> hi! i am wondering if one could add the node where landscape runs on to the managed computers?... and if its a good idea to do so?
[10:13] <friendlyguy> i run a "quickstart deployment" in my lab at home and now i am wondering about this
[10:21] <ChadTaljaardt> Hello,
[10:21] <ChadTaljaardt> how do i download sqlite3 for offline install
[10:22] <ChadTaljaardt> my friend cant do sudo apt-get install sqlite3 becuase he doesnt have internet
[10:23] <Ben64> apt-get download
[10:23] <ChadTaljaardt> so he asked if i can download it for him and give it to him, but i have no idea how to do this
[10:23] <ChadTaljaardt> im using mac
[10:23] <Ben64> but really, just get internet on that computer
[10:26] <ChadTaljaardt> he cant afford internet  right now
[10:26] <ChadTaljaardt> he lives in africa haha
[10:49] <mutsy> Hi there. I use Ubuntu with i3 and I have arc dark GTK theme installed and it works for nautilus, but not for keepassx or my notification style. It looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/5qEhmGQ.png
[10:50] <mutsy> anyone has an idea why this is? Can't find any solutions on google either ;/
[10:50] <ikonia> mutsy: do those apps support style ? do they use gtk3 ?
[10:50] <ikonia> are they even gtk based apps ?
[10:50] <ikonia> (I don't use keepassx so don't know)
[10:51] <mutsy> ikonia: well they did before ;/ I use xfce4-notifyd for my notificaitons
[10:51] <ikonia> mutsy: are they now though....
[10:51] <mutsy> and the arc-dark theme has support for that
[10:51] <mutsy> idk, how can I check
[10:51] <ikonia> what are they built against ?
[10:51] <ikonia> mutsy: keepassx is QT
[10:51] <ikonia> not GTK
[10:51] <ikonia> https://www.keepassx.org/requirements
[10:52] <mutsy> ah ye ofc, but what about xfce4-notifyd?
[10:52] <ikonia> I don't know take a look
[10:52] <mutsy> I don't know how and what
[10:52] <ikonia> as you told me it worked before, when clearly thats not true
[10:52] <ikonia> QT will have never honoured GTK themes
[10:53] <ikonia> mutsy: http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/xfce4-notifyd
[10:53] <ikonia> mutsy: gtk 2
[10:53] <ikonia> I don't know if it supports later versions or is locked to gtk 3
[10:53] <ikonia> sorry locked to gtk 2
[10:53] <mutsy> okay well I use xfce4-notifyd-config to determine the style
[10:54] <mutsy> and with every style I get the same..
[10:54] <ikonia> mutsy: I suggest you research into what I've just told you
[10:55] <mutsy> they do have support and styles for it
[10:55] <mutsy> it just doesn't does show it in it
[10:55] <ikonia> thats not what I said
[10:55] <ikonia> it does support styles
[10:56] <ikonia> I'm aware of this, however it is a GTK2 app - is it locked to GTK2, or does it support GTK3 (where your styles are being used)
[12:22] <Felishia> help
[12:22] <Felishia> my ubuntu died after an apt-get upgrade
[12:22] <Felishia> I'm on a live debian that's old as jesus
[12:22] <Felishia> what can I do to fix it?
[12:22] <Felishia> the symtoms is that the keyboard nor the mouse work
[12:23] <Felishia> the system is literally unusable
[12:23] <Felishia> but the battery drains, the sounds come from it, say on network stuff, it responds to taking and putting the battery charger and shows notifications, but I can't login or do shit at all
[12:24] <Zta> I want a small home server to serve docker containers. I want the server to boot off USB, mount a RAID array for storage -- preferably ALL storage is on the RAID, the USB ideally being read-only.  Can I accomplish this with boot2docker?  Is there a better solution?
[12:25] <uruk7> hello I need convert a video ogv to mp4 , I searched in google with ffmpeg and mencoder but always output error can you help me if is posible in CLI?
[12:25] <ppf> Zta: since you're in an ubuntu channell, we must respond "use ubuntu!"
[12:27] <Zta> ppf: ..I suppose, yes. It's just that I am, and I'm stuck in a dead end it seems =)
[12:32] <ppf> what's the issue?
[12:35] <Felishia> I can't goddamn chroot -.-
[12:45] <swensson> Trying to setup ssh-keys, but Im stuck at trying to copy the id from the client that should connect, /usr/bin/ssh-copy-id: ERROR: No identities found ? :O
[13:08] <Zta> ppf: Mine? I... I just thought of something.  Perhaps I should mount my raid as /var during boot. Would that make sense? =)
[13:13] <ppf> Zta: why does it matter what you mount it as?
[13:20] <Zta> It's a long story =) And I'm usually being too idealistic and over-engineering this. I basically want to make a read-only USB stick that boots Ubuntu and starts sshd and dockerd.  It should mount my data-drive and this this for persistence.  I'd like it to be so generic, that if my server explodes, I can buy a new, dd a new USB stick, restore my data from a backup and be up and running again with close to zero configuration.
[13:24] <Zta> I've fabricated the iso for the USB by installing ubuntu server in QEMU and mounting a file for hdd.  This nicely in general. But the real problem I'm facing right now, is that when I installed the docker package, docker created /var/docker and installed some stuff in there upon startup. But I don't want this here on my boot iso; it should be on my data drive, mounted on /data.
[13:24] <Zta> So there's a bootstrapping issue here, which is pretty annoying so I'm looking towards other solutions.
[13:25] <migmolrod> hi. can you recommend me a free backup software? i'm using Ubuntu 16.04 Server with Gnome on top of it (installed through 'tasksel')
[13:25] <migmolrod> i've tried the default ubuntu backup option but seems a bit lacking to my tasting
[13:26] <Zta> boot2docker looks nice. It basically just boots a tiny linux and starts a docker service. It can even auto-mount a file system if it's labelled "boot2linux-data" and place all data there -- but not RAID devices, unfortunately!
[13:28] <Zta> But with my current setup, I will have to boot the USB.  It automounts my raid. Then stop docker. Them move /var/docker to /data/var/docker. Then edit /etc/default/docker to make docker point to /data, then restart.  It's annoying =)
[13:30] <Zta> But now I just though of mounting my raid as /data via fstab. But I think it will result in a screwed system.  If I boot a fresh USB one day, then it will have an out-of-sync /var/lib/dpkg for instance.
[13:41] <atralheaven> Hi, can I copy whatever is in root and home partitions as backup with cp -rp, partitioning my hard again, and paste them? will that work?
[13:42] <unholymachine> it might work, yes
[13:42] <atralheaven> what about the bootloader? I think that would be the problem
[13:42] <unholymachine> you'd have to run grub setup again
[13:43] <atralheaven> how can I do it when I can't boot into it?
[13:43] <unholymachine> can you get a terminal at all?
[13:44] <atralheaven> when there is no grub, I can only use a live disk
[13:45] <unholymachine> you need to install grub to the mbr then
[13:46] <unholymachine> if i can suggest something, i would set the system up as you like it then use something like http://www.supergrubdisk.org/ to install grub to the mbr
[13:46] <unholymachine> some things just cannot be copy and pasted
[13:55] <realies> tryinna install libdirac-dev on 16.04 and cant find it in the repo
[13:55] <realies> what should i do?
[13:56] <realies> i can find it on 14.04 but not sure if that's a good idea
[13:59] <deadc0rps> whoami
[13:59] <deadc0rps> wrong terminal
[14:00] <Zta> I'd recommend full backing, reinstall, and restore backup.   Backup /root, /etc, /var, /home, /boot and you should be covered. Then cherry-pick whatever you happen to need.
[14:05] <unholymachine> realies: seems like it's in the debian-multimedia package?
[14:05] <unholymachine> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/arm64/multimedia-devel/0.3ubuntu2
[14:07] <realies> unholymachine, oh, do i add this to the apt lits?
[14:07] <realies> list
[14:07] <unholymachine> run "apt-cache search debian-multimedia"
[14:08] <unholymachine> it might already be installed
[14:10] <unholymachine> the package is called "multimedia-devel"
[14:10] <unholymachine> so just apt-get install mulimedia-devel
[14:12] <kristhian> installed google chrome via ppa, i opened it via commmand line, google-chrome http://facebook.com and i think i press on something that makes the browser directs to fb.com each time i open
[14:13] <kristhian> tried reseting it to default, clearing cache, reinstalling the browser but still the same
[14:13] <kristhian> can someone here help me out on the issue?
[14:13] <realies> unholymachine, multimedia-devel contains libdirac-dev?
[14:14] <unholymachine> realies: i'm not 100% sure that it does but it's referenced in the link i posed to that package
[14:14] <realies> unholymachine, not part but referenced
[14:14] <realies> what does that mean?
[14:15] <unholymachine> it means that it could have been bundled into teh multimedia-devel package
[14:16] <realies> uh, installing the multimedia-devl now
[14:18] <unholymachine> also , realies, i found this "(From Debian) ROM; obsolete, replacement exists (libschroedinger); Debian bug #765766"
[14:18] <unholymachine> yeah
[14:18] <mutsy> someone knows why I don't have the default ubuntu notification style? I have arc dark theme installed and set via lxappearance and my current style looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/5qEhmGQ.png
[14:19] <realies> unholymachine, installed the 900mb media devel and still no libdirac-dev
[14:19] <realies> will try without it
[14:19] <unholymachine> realies: it's been replaced by libschroedinger
[14:20] <unholymachine> (From Debian) ROM; obsolete, replacement exists (libschroedinger); Debian bug #765766
[14:20] <realies> unholymachine ok
[14:20] <unholymachine> which , i imagine, was just installed via multimedia-devel
[14:22] <unholymachine> no idea mutsy, i'm not even sure what i'm looking at in the picture.
[14:25] <mutsy> unholymachine: I got it already. i3 uses dunst so it fixed for to do: sudo apt-get purge dunst
[14:25] <mutsy> :(
[14:25] <mutsy> :) *
[14:25] <unholymachine> ah cool :)
[14:25] <mutsy> unholymachine: thanks tho'!
[14:44] <soee> hi any idea how to fix this: PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php/20151012/zip.so' - libzip.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory in Unknown on line 0 ?
[14:54] <AshIndigo> I can't get my Ubuntu server to connect to any wireless networks because I never get any dhcp offers
[14:54] <ikonia> soee: error is clear
[14:59] <ikonia> AshIndigo: you won't get offers if you are not on the network
[15:00] <oerheks> AshIndigo, sure the driver is installed ? sudo lshw -C network # this will tell all details
[15:02] <AshIndigo> Yep I can see it
[15:03] <AshIndigo> I got the network details in /etc/network/interfaces
[15:03] <ikonia> if it's not handshaking it can't get a dhcp request, so won't get an offer
[15:04] <AshIndigo> Any way to make sure it gets a request?
[15:05] <ikonia> AshIndigo: re-read what I said
[15:05] <ikonia> AshIndigo: it can't make a request if you're not on the network
[15:07] <AshIndigo> How can I know if its for sure on the network
[15:07] <ikonia> AshIndigo: has it completed a handshake
[15:09] <AshIndigo> What would that look like?
[15:13] <ikonia> AshIndigo: you should see it inthe syslog
[15:13] <ikonia> AshIndigo: are you using network manager ?
[15:14] <ioria> AshIndigo, why don't you paste your  /e/n/interfaces ?
[15:14] <AshIndigo> Ok
[15:15] <AshIndigo> And ikon I'm using the server edition which doesn't come with network manager as far as in know
[15:17] <ikonia> AshIndigo: it does have network manager
[15:17] <ikonia> (why are you using a server edition ?)
[15:19] <AshIndigo> https://pastebin.com/qwt32F6j
[15:20] <AshIndigo> Interfaces file
[15:20] <AshIndigo> I'm using sever edition because I'm trying to setup a server mainly
[15:20] <ikonia> AshIndigo: you know you can run a server on a desktop install
[15:21] <ikonia> I assume as this is on wifi it's not a real server as it's on wifi, more like a home server ?
[15:21] <AshIndigo> Yeah
[15:21] <ikonia> why not make it easy and use a desktop install
[15:21] <ikonia> you can use the network manager desktop app and make it easiser for this sort of thing
[15:23] <AshIndigo> True
[15:27] <ioria> AshIndigo, if it's a server, i'd use static ....
[15:27] <donalsd> I just put Gnome in my Ubuntu
[15:27] <donalsd> I am trying to remove the menubar on the top of apps.
[15:28] <donalsd> Can't find the System settings > Appearance > Behavior in Gnome.
[15:28] <AshIndigo> Just want to get WiFi working atleast :/
[15:28] <ioria> AshIndigo,  it was working while installing ?
[15:28] <ikonia> AshIndigo: I suspect it's not handshaking
[15:28] <ikonia> AshIndigo: therefore it can't make a dhcp request
[15:29] <ikonia> do you have dhclient installed ?
[15:29] <donalsd> Any help?
[15:29] <AshIndigo> Didn't have internet during the install
[15:29] <ikonia> AshIndigo: what does that have to do with anything ?
[15:29] <ioria> AshIndigo,   so what have configured /e/n/interface ?
[15:29] <AshIndigo> Reply to ioria
[15:29] <donalsd> ikonia: Any help?
[15:30] <ikonia> donalsd: just ask the channel and wait for a response
[15:30] <AshIndigo> https://pastebin.com/qwt32F6j - interfaces file
[15:30] <ioria> AshIndigo,   you set up that file or the installer ?
[15:30] <AshIndigo> I did
[15:31] <ioria> AshIndigo,   do you something in /e/n/interfaces.d ?
[15:31] <ioria> *have
[15:31] <donalsd> I can't find System settings > Appearance > Behavior in Gnome and I need to move the menubar away from the regular place below the title bar. How do I fix this?
[15:31] <AshIndigo> I haven't messed iwith it
[15:32] <ioria> AshIndigo,   ls  /e/n/interfaces.d
[15:32] <AshIndigo> Ok
[15:32] <ioria> ok what ?
[15:32] <AshIndigo> One sec and I'll run it
[15:32] <donalsd> ioria: Can you help? :D
[15:33] <ikonia> donalsd: just ask the channel and wait for a response
[15:33] <ioria> donalsd, ii use unity
[15:33] <donalsd> ikonia: Is there another way to ask the channel?
[15:33] <oerheks> donalsd, there is no 'global menu' in gnome like unity, there is a plugin, never used it myself >>  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/04/global-menu-for-gnome-extension-development
[15:33] <ikonia> donalsd: ask with out singling out individuals
[15:33] <donalsd> I am new here.
[15:33] <tgm4883> donalsd: just ask. Don't try to ping anyone
[15:34] <BrokaToe> donalsd: when you go System Settings and Appearance -> Behavior ->  do you not see an option for show menus for a window?
[15:34] <BrokaToe> should have In the windows title bar option
[15:35] <donalsd> oerheks: My other Ubuntu installation doesn't have the menu, but have the individual menubars removed. Can't remember how I did that.
[15:35] <donalsd> BrokaToe: I can't see a System settings > Appearance.
[15:36] <BrokaToe> donalsd: Actually System/Appearance/Behavior I believe, not System settings
[15:36] <AshIndigo> ioria: its empty
[15:37] <donalsd> BrokaToe: Yeah, System doesn't have one, I am sending a screenshot.
[15:37] <ioria> AshIndigo,   wpasupplicant is installed ?
[15:37] <Richard_Cavell> Hello everyone. I'm currently using debian 8.6.0. I'm disappointed that it doesn't support my Radeon video card and there's no good graphical IRC client available. Is Ubuntu likely to be significantly better?  (Installing Ubuntu won't be a trivial task for me so I need to know before I commit)
[15:37] <donalsd> BrokaToe: http://imgur.com/a/xoM6r
[15:37] <AshIndigo> Nope
[15:37] <ioria> AshIndigo,   so how cn it work ?
[15:37] <Richard_Cavell> AshIndigo: Are you replying to me?
[15:38] <AshIndigo> No Richard
[15:38] <oerheks> Richard_Cavell, what radeon card? as of 16.04, open radeon works like a charm
[15:38] <AshIndigo> I need wpasupplicant?
[15:38] <ioria> yes
[15:39] <ikonia> Richard_Cavell: there are the same graphical IRC clients in debian as in ubuntu, Debian is upstream for ubuntu
[15:39] <MonkeyDust> Richard_Cavell  start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[15:39] <ikonia> Richard_Cavell: it depends why you video card is not supported if ubuntu will have a positive or negative impact
[15:39] <AshIndigo> And if I manage to get it what do I do?
[15:40] <ioria> AshIndigo,  maybe a desktop edition, as ikonia suggested, might fit your needs
[15:40] <donalsd> Basically the problem is, I hate the menubar on my terminal.
[15:40] <tgm4883> donalsd: your image link doesn't work
[15:40] <oerheks> donalsd, again: there is no 'global menu' in gnome like unity
[15:41] <AshIndigo> Probably :/
[15:41] <Richard_Cavell> oerheks: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV530/M56-P [Mobility Radeon X1600] [1002:71c5]
[15:42] <oerheks> oh, x1600, that is an old card, should work with openradeon..
[15:42] <ioria> Richard_Cavell, old card, i guess right ?
[15:42] <Richard_Cavell> ioria: Yep
[15:42] <BrokaToe> donald: have you checked out gnome-tweak-tool?
[15:42] <BrokaToe> it may have an option for what you're wanting to do
[15:42] <ioria> Richard_Cavell,  i use a similare with lxde on server 16.04, works ok
[15:42] <donalsd> tgm4883: It does work. I just checked.
[15:43] <donalsd> BrokaToe: What should I look for in the tweak tool?
[15:43] <Nvidiot> Is there anyone who can help me get my broadcom wireless working on 14.04 with a 4.4 kernel? More information in this thread: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2363268
[15:43] <ikonia> 4.4 kernel ?
[15:43] <BrokaToe> donalsd: not sure never used it....you would have to install it and browse through the options
[15:43] <ikonia> where are you getting a 4.4 kernel from 14.04 ?
[15:43] <tgm4883> donalsd: odd, doesn't work for me
[15:44] <donalsd> oerheks: Is there a way that I can just get rid of the menubar on my terminal permanently?
[15:44] <Nvidiot> ikonia: installed the xenial kernel package (I need it for kerberos / ntlmv2 authentication against a windows share that works in 4.4, but not in 3.13)
[15:44] <ikonia> Nvidiot: yeah, not supported
[15:44] <ikonia> Nvidiot: putting xenial packages on trusty - unsupported
[15:45] <oerheks> donalsd, did you take a look @  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/04/global-menu-for-gnome-extension-development
[15:45] <donalsd> oerheks: I can remove that by clicking Menu > (Unchecking) Show menubar
[15:45] <donalsd> But, a permanent treatment would be great.
[15:45] <Nvidiot> ikonia: I know but my wifi works correctly with the 3.13 kernel :/ I'd rather not have to reboot whenever I want to use the wifi (and then can't access the windows share)
[15:46] <ikonia> Nvidiot: ok, so you know it's not supported, so therefore, not for this channel
[15:47] <donalsd> oerheks: Yes, I guess it isn't released yet?
[15:48] <Nvidiot> ikonia so where should I go with my question?
[15:48] <ikonia> Nvidiot: no idea
[15:48] <gamester> Hello. After using my Windows partition for a while, I just rebooted into Ubuntu and now the unity side panel is filled with 31 mounts and my desktop wallpaper isn't showing. The mounts are stuff like "1000", "efi", "hugepages", "mqueue", etc. Anyone have a clue?
[15:49] <gamester> I also got a system process error message or something like that, with no more detail. It just allowed me to send the report.
[15:50] <promille> Hi guys. I just installed 17.04 64 bit. My headphones which is on the front side of the sound card (desktop computer) works fine, but Ubuntu does not list the speakers connected to the back side of the sound card. Anyone have some suggestions? All connections are aux.
[15:52] <donalsd> can anyone tell me of a way to copy some apps stored exactly the way with all their configs to a new Ubuntu installation?
[15:53] <donalsd> Like I want to copy the entire LAMP stack from my other installation to this new one. Basically cloninh
[15:59] <BrokaToe> donalsd: I don't think there's an "easy" method for this.  It would all depend on what kind of website you're running and what services are used.  ex. php,mysql databases etc.  I would probably install the lamp stack on the new server, then move over the necessary apache configs and mysql databases to the new machine etc.
[16:00] <oerheks> maybe this answer is any help >> https://askubuntu.com/questions/18188/how-to-move-a-lamp-setup-to-a-new-ubuntu-server
[16:02] <donalsd> BrokaToe: Got some more stuff like Composer, Elasticsearch, Logstash, Kibana to move as well along with the stack to make my apps working.
[16:03] <BrokaToe> donalsd: Is the new server running the same version of OS installation?
[16:03] <donalsd> Or maybe if I could just copy my entire drive, without the ubuntu installation (i.e., the apps I installed along with configs) to the new one?
[16:03] <oerheks> install those apps, move data, done
[16:03] <donalsd> BrokaToe: Yes.
[16:04] <donalsd> oerheks: Loooot of apps, loooot of data.
[16:05] <BrokaToe> I would suggest using tar to create an archive of you entire / directory, then unpacking it over the new installation
[16:05] <donalsd> BrokaToe: Would it really work?
[16:06] <BrokaToe> in theory
[16:06] <BrokaToe> I've done it before for routers I've built
[16:06] <BrokaToe> and it worked
[16:06] <donalsd> If it does, i.e., simply clones everything and puts things in the right places, then would be great.
[16:07] <donalsd> BrokaToe: I have to remove the existing / then, I guess?
[16:07] <BrokaToe> you would tar -cpzf backup.tar.gz --exclude=/backup.tar.gz --one-file-system /
[16:07] <donalsd> That would wipe the entire thing, I guess?
[16:07] <BrokaToe> I would recomment sudo su into root and cd / to run the backup from the root dir
[16:07] <BrokaToe> no that would just create an archive of the entire root directory
[16:07] <BrokaToe> nothing would be wiped
[16:08] <donalsd> BrokaToe: Yeah, but when I have to unzip the files, they will have to replace the current ones in the new installation.
[16:08] <BrokaToe> then you can copy that tar file to a usb drive and plug it into the new server and mount it
[16:08] <BrokaToe> yes they will replace them
[16:08] <tomreyn> sorry to interrupt, but i dont think this is a good strategy if the data to be backed up is going to change in the process
[16:08] <BrokaToe> but only what has changed
[16:09] <BrokaToe> it will replace the files that are transferring only
[16:09] <donalsd> tomreyn: It wouldn't.
[16:09] <tomreyn> you may end up with different states of files which together form a single unit, such as a database.
[16:09] <donalsd> It's my local server.
[16:09] <oerheks> stop the service, backup..
[16:09] <BrokaToe> well if it's a production environment with changing databases I wouldn't recommend this method no
[16:09] <tomreyn> sure if you stop all services then it can work
[16:10] <BrokaToe> true
[16:10] <donalsd> BrokaToe: So I have the installations on the same computer. Not a production server.
[16:10] <BrokaToe> esxi?
[16:10] <BrokaToe> or dual boot?
[16:10] <geirha> If you don't have control over what config and files belong to what app, you'll have a big problem the day you need to restore from backup
[16:10] <donalsd> Two installations as in dual-booted. One in HDD, the other in SSD.
[16:11] <donalsd> BrokaToe: I am trying to move the files from the HDD root to the SSD root.
[16:11] <BrokaToe> ohhh I was thinking the "new" install was a fresh install on a new machine
[16:11] <donalsd> Both run, Ubuntu 16.04
[16:11] <BrokaToe> desktop versions?
[16:11] <donalsd> BrokaToe: Yes.
[16:12] <BrokaToe> I believe there's some good backup solutions available for something like that right tomreyn ?
[16:12] <BrokaToe> with a nice gui interface
[16:12] <donalsd> I thought I would use something like Clonezilla first, but that seemed to be complicated.
[16:13] <tomreyn> there are graphical file browsers which let you copy files from one mounted file system to another.
[16:13] <tomreyn> but chances are this approach will rather break things than fix them
[16:13] <donalsd> Is there a way to recover the apps and configs? tomreyn
[16:14] <donalsd> Just cloning the installed apps and their configs
[16:14] <tomreyn> recover from what?
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> !backup | donalsd
[16:14] <donalsd> From the HDD installation.
[16:14] <donalsd> !cloning
[16:15] <tomreyn> therE's no easy graphical interface for what you are trying to achieve, not that i know of.
[16:16] <donalsd> Clonezilla seemed complicated to me. tomreyn
[16:16] <oerheks> examine any app where the data is stored, install the app on the new install, move data, dobn't copy apps to the new install is my choise
[16:17] <donalsd> oerheks: too many apps
[16:17] <tomreyn> and even then you would have different UIDs + GIDs
[16:17] <BluesKaj> use separate / and /home partitions
[16:18] <oerheks> "too many apps" ??
[16:18] <donalsd> oerheks: Yes.
[16:19] <tomreyn> the tar (as root) + untar (as root) approach can work, but i would not do it for / but for more specific locations such as /etc/mysql /etc/apache2 /var/lib/mysql (which services are stopped)
[16:22] <geirha> For instance, replacing /etc/fstab will likely make the system no longer boot
[16:23] <donalsd> geirha: I will still try doing that xD
[16:24] <flux242> will xubuntu switch to gdm too or will it stay with the lightdm?
[16:24] <tomreyn> if you dont know how to recover from this situation and don't have a backup of the target system you'll not do yourself a favor with this approach.
[16:24] <tomreyn> donalsd: ^
[16:28] <ioria> flux242, i guess so (in the next release)
[16:29] <ioria> flux242, but afaik the problem was with gnome-shell, not with xfce
[16:29] <donalsd> tomreyn: I think I am going to go with the individual installation. Have to dedicate 2 more days.
[16:30] <donalsd> Is there a way that I can see the list of programs I installed on the other system? tomreyn
[16:30] <tomreyn> donalsd: for packages, you can do: dpkg -l
[16:31] <donalsd> tomreyn: The ones I actually installed and not the dependencies? xD That would ease my task a lot
[16:32] <donalsd> As in mysql and not its dependencies
[16:34] <ioria> donalsd, try this : comm -23 <(apt-mark showmanual | sort -u) <(gzip -dc /var/log/installer/initial-status.gz | sed -n 's/^Package: //p' | sort -u)
[16:34] <sartan> .part
[16:35] <donalsd> ioria: Okay, that works
[17:00] <Richard_Cavell_> If I choose MATE instead of cinnamon, will that restrict the programs that I can use, or does it not matter?  I want to use an IRC client, for example.
[17:00] <ikonia> Richard_Cavell_: no
[17:02] <Richard_Cavell_> ikonia, can you tell what desktop environment this is?  http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/news2/ubuntu-16-04-lts-xenial-xerus-final-beta-screenshot-tour-502161-7.jpg
[17:02] <ikonia> unity
[17:03] <ikonia> Richard_Cavell_: I think you need to do a bit of basic research into what ubuntu is, what it provides and what it's roadmap is
[17:03] <Richard_Cavell_> Yes, I do. But right now I just need to know which iso to download
[17:03] <ikonia> Richard_Cavell_: the ubuntu iso
[17:03] <Richard_Cavell_> I have used Ubuntu before and I like that colour scheme, font, etc
[17:03] <ikonia> Richard_Cavell_: keep in mind ubuntu is dropping unity as it's desktop
[17:08] <Richard_Cavell_> ikonia, How do I get that colour scheme/font/etc?
[17:09] <Richard_Cavell_> Sorry for the newb questions
[17:09] <ikonia> Richard_Cavell_: it's default
[17:09] <ikonia> Richard_Cavell_: as I say though, this desktop environment is being dropped, so investing in it, may not be a good idea
[17:14] <Richard_Cavell_> ikonia, I want to go with an LTS version so may I expect 16.04 LTS to look like that for a while yet?
[17:15] <tomreyn> Richard_Cavell_: 16.04 will look like this untill you upgrade to a newer release.
[17:16] <Richard_Cavell_> ok, good
[17:23] <chindy> I cannot listen to amazon prime music on my linux desktop. Anyone know why that is the case ?
[17:25] <genii> chindy: Have you tried from Chromium or just Firefox?
[17:25] <chindy> google chrome and firefox
[17:34] <thyriaen> i am looking for a good irc channel for some hardware / pc building questions - any suggestions ?
[17:35] <genii> thyriaen: ##hardware
[17:35] <chindy> genii: you have no idea why thaT might be the case?
[17:38] <genii> chindy: It's not a service that I myself use. Amazon recommends Chrome, but you say it also does not work. So you might want to contact the Amazon support, since you are using what they recommend under linux.
[17:38] <oerheks> chthere used to be nuvola player (old: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/07/nuvola-supports-amazon-prime-music/)  >>>   , maybe this page is any help https://www.linuxbabe.com/multimedia/install-nuvola-player-ubuntu-16-04-lts
[17:38] <oerheks> chindy, ^^
[17:38] <oerheks> for Amazon, Bandcamp, Deezer, 8tracks, Goolge Play Music, Grooveshark, Hype Machine, Logitech Media Server, Pandora and more
[17:40] <chindy> thx
[17:40]  * genii slides oerheks a fresh mug
[17:40]  * oerheks bows deep and finds a dollar with 2 heads
[17:58] <gamester> What could be the reason behind all of these mounts (http://i.imgur.com/IUcp2AX.png)? And if I remove anything from the launcher it doesnt save past the reboot. All of this happened after I rebooted.
[17:59] <gamester> I tried upgrading from 16.10 to 17.04 and that didn't fix this
[18:01] <badet0s> lol
[18:01] <badet0s> how you looked in /etc/fstab ?
[18:02] <gamester> badet0s: There's very little in there. Just /, /boot/efi, /home, and one usb mount
[18:05] <gamester> badet0s: and it wont display the wallpaper I select in the settings. Just this default one
[18:05] <gamester> something seriously strange but all my data seems intact
[18:06] <badet0s> well I have no idea :)
[18:06] <gamester> linux desktop stability still low :(
[18:06] <gamester> I have yearly problems
[18:07] <gamester> this one takes the cake as the strangest one, I guess
[18:11] <flux242> gamester: eject freezer and check if it still in the kitchen
[18:12] <badet0s> :P
[18:14] <gamester> Where does the unity launcher store its config? I want to see if its failing to read or write to it since clicking on "Unlock from Launcher" doesn't save past reboot
[18:14] <kspencer> I know this is more of a screen/linux thing, but, if you're inside screen, then ssh into a server, and enter a screen there, which one is the default? (as I haven't tested, and I wanted to see if anyone had some insight
[18:15] <dr_horrible> C
[18:18] <thyriaen> is there an equivalent ppa for amd graphics card as this one ? ( https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa )
[18:21] <genii> thyriaen: No, because amdpro driver series is now in main repositories
[18:22] <genii> ( and also xorg-edgers)
[18:22] <gamester> im going to try logging into a different user
[18:25] <thyriaen> genii, so proprietary amd drivers are in the main repo now ?
[18:26] <BluesKaj> amdgpu diver seems to fit most
[18:26] <BluesKaj> driver
[18:32]  * edge226 sighs.
[18:32] <genii> BluesKaj: Yes, AFAIK amdgpu replaced radeon in xorg main drivers, amdgpu-pro still needs to be manually installed from AMD's site
[18:33] <BluesKaj> genii, so the pro version won't get kernel upgrades
[18:34] <BluesKaj> or is there a ppa
[18:37] <genii> BluesKaj: I have not seen any PPA for amdgpu-pro
[18:38] <thyriaen> genii, what is the difference between amdgpu and amdgpu-pro ?
[18:39] <iopq> you have vulkan with amdgpu-pro for example
[18:39] <iopq> using vulkan I get 110-120 FPS in Dota 2, and 30 FPS otherwise
[18:39] <iopq> I get about 70 FPS in windows - whatever that uses
[18:41] <oerheks> amdgpu- pro is the drm blob on top of the open amdgpu driver
[18:41] <edge226> I've just updated my machine, its usually that I have to update my rtl8812au-dkms driver when a kernel updates. I can see the card in ifconfig but cannot connect with it as before the update, Anyone have any ideas what the issue may be?
[18:41] <ShaRose> So, I'm trying to get clevis (https://github.com/latchset/clevis/), specifically the automatic unlocking of luks volumes on boot, to work with initramfs because dracut doesn't seem to like zfs root for 16.04. The problem is that initramfs executes scripts sequentially, so either the clevis hook stalls forever because luks will never try to decrypt, or it will error out because luks hasn't tried to ask for the passphrase yet
[18:42] <ShaRose> the only way I can think of to resolve the problem is a really ugly hack, or a slightly less ugly hack which is still ugly
[18:43] <ShaRose> really ugly being "sed the luks decryption script so it tries to unlock it" and slightly less ugly being "fork it and run with a sleep"
[18:45] <beefjoe> How do I add rar extract to archive manager ?
[18:46] <genii> beefjoe: Install unrar-free package if it's not already
[18:47] <genii> Archive manager should automatically add any new archive formats you install to it's list
[18:47] <horuxan> genni, sorry, have idea ?
[18:47] <horuxan> grep: error while loading shared libraries: libpcre.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[18:52] <genii> horuxan: You are trying to run some older application which is expecting a version of libpcre which is 2 versions behind what the default is which is now provided
[18:53] <horuxan> genii
[18:53] <horuxan> estou usando um sdk
[18:53] <horuxan> dentro do ubuntu
[18:53] <horuxan> sorry
[18:53] <horuxan> i using one sdk
[18:53] <genii> horuxan: no habla espanol
[18:53] <horuxan> on ubuntu
[18:53] <horuxan> no, sorry
[18:53] <horuxan> and english very bad
[18:53] <horuxan> kkkk
[18:54] <horuxan> i using one sdk, on ubuntu current
[18:54] <beefjoe> the rar archives are empty..can't extract anything
[18:54] <horuxan> genii,
[18:55] <horuxan> and no using sdk, no change error
[18:55] <horuxan> and acl error
[18:55] <genii> horuxan: Is it's name "One SDK"? And from where did it come
[18:56] <horuxan> genii, sdk salfish
[18:56] <horuxan> no
[18:56] <horuxan> genii, ubuntu-trusty-android-rootfs
[18:58] <beefjoe> removed unrar-free and installed unrar package
[18:58] <beefjoe> all good now..
[18:58] <genii> horuxan: https://sailfishos.org/develop/sdk-overview/ ?
[18:59] <horuxan> genii, https://sailfishos.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/SailfishOS-HardwareAdaptationDevelopmentKit-1.1.2.pdf
[19:08] <sebsebseb> hi
[19:08] <sebsebseb> I want to
[19:08] <sebsebseb> I want to get into the file system properly on my Ubuntu phone, on the computer, but having problems
[19:08] <gilbahat> hi, quick question. I am booting off livecd and computer reboots instead of starting X. tried adding text to boot params, same thing. could be that loading the fbdev makes it barf. anything that can get this machine to boot?
[19:09] <sarcastico> Does anyone know how to do ubuntu reconnect android 6.0.1 by usb?
[19:11] <genii> Darn, he left before I discovered #sailfishos-porters
[19:12] <gilbahat> ok, futzing with vga= got it going further, and indeed nouveaufb makes it reboot. any way to blacklist it on the command line?
[19:14] <Bashing-om> gilbahat: What graphoc's set ? Mayby try 'nomodeset' maybe - ->
[19:15] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | gilbahat
[19:15] <gilbahat> yes, found that out. it’s nvidia ION (Geforce 9400M with shared memory)
[19:16] <gilbahat> and indeed nomodeset made it boot, yay.
[19:17] <Bashing-om> gilbahat: We installing or working with an installed system ? Need to install a graphic's driver . I checking to see which.
[19:18] <gilbahat> Bashing-om: actually, I wanted to boot this system from a livecd so I can install windows on it. for one reason or another, VDPAU does not deliver the right performance on this hardware under linux. after futzing with it for almost 12 hours with the nice people at the kodi channel, I don’t have any other choice.
[19:18] <sarcastico> Does anyone know how to do ubuntu reconnect android 6.0.1 by usb?
[19:19] <gilbahat> not to mention that both the chromium and firefox teams refuse to support VDPAU. joy!
[19:19] <oerheks> sarcastico,  plugout & plugin
[19:19] <Bashing-om> gilbahat: The correct driver - 340 - installed ? : http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_32667.html .
[19:19] <gilbahat> Bashing-om: tried with both 340 and 304. was dropping frames as hell with 1080p with VDPAU enabled
[19:20] <gilbahat> 375 refused to load at all with this chipset
[19:20] <Bashing-om> gilbahat: Ouch . Sorry end of my range of knowledge .
[19:21] <gilbahat> Bashing-om: I manage linux machines on my day job, doing heavy multimedia processing, and I couldn’t get it to work like I wanted to. maybe someone at nvidia messed up the drivers or maybe it’s even a limitation of VDPAU. my wife doesn’t care, she wants a proper media center :)
[19:22] <Bashing-om> gilbahat: Understand ! My Wife went back to Windows10 to support her graphic's station .
[19:23] <BluesKaj> glebihan, use chrome, not chromium for starters
[19:24] <gilbahat> BluesKaj: doesn’t matter. chrome doesn’t support VDPAU on linux. it only supports VA-API and on ChromeOS only. I even downloaded a build that was supposed to re-enable it, but either way video performance was simply horrible.
[19:24] <Bashing-om> gilbahat: ' apt show mesa-vdpau-drivers vdpau-va-driver ' give any additional ideas ?
[19:25] <Diamonte> win 8 wouldn't support my hdmi out (on laptop) so i had to install original win 7. Makes me wonder if it'd work in 10. It's works with linux.
[19:25] <horuxan> hello
[19:25] <horuxan> one people help me ?
[19:25] <horuxan> good afterning
[19:26] <\9> !ask
[19:26] <Ichimusai> horuxan: Ask the question and we will se if someone can help.
[19:26] <horuxan> grep: error while loading shared libraries: libpcre.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[19:26] <Ichimusai> horuxan: When do you get the message.
[19:26] <BluesKaj> gilbahat, think you need to not worry about enabling vdpau, if you use the 340 driver the nvidia vdpau driver should take care of that , and it's installed by default by dkms
[19:26] <horuxan> on make
[19:26] <horuxan> Ichimusai,
[19:26] <Ichimusai> horuxan: Make of what?
[19:27] <horuxan> porting os
[19:27] <Ichimusai> horuxan: You have to be more specific. I assume you have checked you have the lib installed?
[19:27] <oerheks> error on make .. porting os .. we need more details like what ubuntu version, etc
[19:28] <horuxan> ubuntu current, lib instaled
[19:28] <horuxan> more, this error
[19:28] <\9> grep doesn't just complain of a system library missing. what did you do to your system?
[19:28] <BluesKaj> glebihan, that's what I have installed and the videos all work fine with the nvidia geforece 210 gpu
[19:28] <oerheks> horuxan,  use paste.ubuntu.com for the output of your make attempt.
[19:29] <oerheks> BluesKaj, nvidia 210 is much stronger than that nvidia ion
[19:30] <BluesKaj> oerheks, but it uses the 340 legacy driver
[19:31] <gilbahat> BluesKaj: vdpau was properly enabled. it just wasn’t delivering the video quality it was supposed to.
[19:31] <BluesKaj> gilbahat, sorry about the wrong m=nick, my ao=pologies
[19:31] <gilbahat> BluesKaj: no worries mate
[19:31] <horuxan> oerheks, on open terminal, show this error
[19:31] <BluesKaj> gilbahat, which player are you using ?
[19:32] <horuxan> https://pastebin.com/raw/yGJKz0i5 oerheks
[19:32] <gilbahat> BluesKaj: I tried kodi, but the kodi team devs tested mplayer on a similar box and found it dysfunctional as well
[19:32] <oerheks> sorry, i don't visit pastebin.com anymore
[19:32] <Diamonte> mplayer used to be good
[19:32] <Diamonte> try xine-ui maybe
[19:32] <gilbahat> Diamonte: it’s not mplayer’s fault, it’s vdpau/driver issue.
[19:33] <BluesKaj> glitch_hat, I've found that mpv reneders much better than vlc or the default 'buntu players
[19:33] <Diamonte> oh
[19:33] <Ichimusai> It says ls: error while loading shared libraries: libacl.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[19:33] <horuxan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24892936/ oerheks
[19:33] <Ichimusai> So the linker can't fint the library. Either it is not installed, linked properly or in libpath
[19:33] <BluesKaj> oops  gilbahat^
[19:33] <horuxan> look please ?
[19:33] <horuxan> thanks
[19:34] <oerheks> horuxan, oke, that is just one line, no info at all about what ubuntu, what are you building, and what are the exact errors ..
[19:35] <BluesKaj> gilbahat, repeat  I've found that mpv reneders video much better than vlc or the default 'buntu players
[19:35] <horuxan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24892948/
[19:35] <horuxan> the error, is on open terminal
[19:35] <horuxan> and pcre on buid using build/envsetup after make
[19:36] <oerheks> a small search learns me that libacl.so.1 is part of libacl1-dev
[19:36] <horuxan> i search
[19:36] <horuxan> no find solution
[19:37] <oerheks> sudo apt install libacl1-dev and run make again ?
[19:37] <horuxan> libacl1-dev is already the newest version (2.2.52-3)
[19:37] <Diamonte> maybe some linking got broken
[19:38] <Ichimusai> Where is it installed? Is the location in libpath? Did you run configure before make?
[19:38] <horuxan> usr/lib
[19:38] <horuxan> and usr/local/lib
[19:38] <horuxan> and no fix
[19:38] <horuxan> no use .configure
[19:39] <horuxan> is one sdk
[19:39] <horuxan> run build/envsetup.sh and make -j ...
[19:40] <horuxan> Ichimusai,
[19:40] <Diamonte> so you can compile in ubuntu>
[19:40] <Diamonte> ?
[19:40] <Diamonte> im use to gentoo.... compile all
[19:40] <oerheks> i have no clue what he wants to compile ...
[19:40] <horuxan> i use funtoo
[19:41] <Diamonte> well aren't you wanting to "make" something?
[19:41] <horuxan> more my pc memories problem
[19:41] <Ichimusai> oerheks: Same. So he needs to research a bit what file i bailing and so on. If the lib is actually available then there is something odd with the make not finding it.
[19:41] <Ichimusai> Diamonte: Of course, what kind of question is that?
[19:42] <Diamonte> well to make something you compile
[19:42] <Diamonte> must have gcc
[19:42] <oerheks> without proper info, we all can just guess
[19:43] <horuxan> back to start the compilation, this error stop the make
[19:43] <Ichimusai> Diamonte: If you paid notice you could see its the linker that bails. Okay? That means it already compiled and not finding the lib at the link stage.
[19:43] <Diamonte> i said something about linking earlier
[19:43] <Diamonte> in gentoo you would do a revdep-rebuild
[19:44] <Diamonte> revervse dependency rebuilt
[19:44] <oerheks> there used to be 'build-essential' to help with this
[19:44] <Ichimusai> This channel is for Ubuntu support not for discussion how you do things in Gentoo.
[19:44]  * oerheks wonders where that is gone
[19:44] <Diamonte> im new to ubuntu i only have command line skills in gentoo
[19:44] <Ichimusai> oerheks: Still is and assumed its installed
[19:45] <oerheks> Ichimusai, i see, thnx
[19:49] <sarcastico> oerheks: plugin!
[19:52] <dnl> hi; can somebody please close LP: #1622226, this has been fixed in debian as of 1.5-1, thanks.
[19:52] <wreckedPillow> anyone help me with this, installing to a usb
[19:54] <beefjoe> hi! for some reason my laptop ubuntu 16's internet connection is slower than all of the other devices I have at home. any ideas ?
[20:02] <nhooyr> is it possible to change the green of the apt progress bar to something else?
[20:06] <genii> nhooyr: https://askubuntu.com/questions/445245/how-do-i-enable-fancy-apt-colours-and-progress-bars
[20:07] <nhooyr> oh my bad. I read that post before i asked the question but I missed the fact that I have to make the file. Thanks!
[20:08] <genii> Glad to assist
[20:09] <genii> horuxan: They may be able to help you more in #sailfishos-porters channel
[20:14] <gamester> I think i know what my problem is. GSettings just crapped a big ass turd on my whole system. For some reason it reallllly wants to use a "memory" backend which means no settings are saved. Nice.
[20:14] <badet0s> gamester: how did it go? did you unmount your freezer ?
[20:14] <gamester> I ordered a pizza thats how it went
[20:15] <gamester> pizza means bad btw
[20:15] <gamester> you get fat when youre frustrated
[20:15] <badet0s> atleast its not icecream
[20:30] <gamester> So here's the story I suspect is true without having confirmed it: I was trying to make a GUI application and I wanted to use the newest Gtk. I compiled but needed other libraries such as GIO. So I compiled and installed these naturally in /usr/local/lib. Then, because of someone's brilliant design decisions, /usr/local/lib is checked before /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu and so I have just crapped the entire god damn system without knowing.
[20:30] <gamester> To clarify, shared libraries are first searched in usr local lib
[20:31] <gamester> So poor ol gsettings, a core component of a gnome linux system, was modified by me trying to build a gui application
[20:31] <gamester> because it requires a shared library that i shadowed
[20:40] <gamester> i have a feeling im dealing with 2 problems and this is just one of them
[20:41] <quadruple> I am using x2go to connect to my azure VM. If start a script which unsets DISPLAY and then close x2go, the script doesn't keep on running?
[20:42] <jonascj> In 16.04, what is the prefered way for running a script on login?
[20:43] <YankDownUnder> jonascj, Place it in your ~/.config/autostart directory
[20:44] <gamester> Ok fixed!
[20:45] <gamester> I really wish shared library paths worked a bit differently
[20:48] <jonascj> YankDownUnder: okay, that is still a thing in 14 and 16, thanks.
[20:57] <white_magic> anyone know if it's possible to run an openvpn server on port 80? I'm on a public wifi network where the only open ports are 80 and 8080
[20:57] <ikonia> white_magic: you can run it on whatever port you want
[20:57] <white_magic> oh
[21:07] <sarcastico> Does anyone know how to do ubuntu reconnect android 6.0.1 by usb?
[21:23] <isene> How do I fix this?:
[21:23] <isene> Err:11 http://ppa.launchpad.net/leolik/leolik/ubuntu zesty/main amd64 Packages
[21:23] <isene>   404  Not Found
[21:23] <ikonia> talk to the PPA owner
[21:23] <ikonia> and ask him to build for zesty
[21:25] <LuMint> hi! I'm running ubuntu 14.04 and I've just updated to the kernel 4.4.0-79-generic #100~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP. In the process of installing it there was a warning: https://gist.github.com/8de44942290e64c907b53ebdf8c7db3a
[21:26] <ikonia> where did you get 4.4 from ?
[21:26] <LuMint> from the repos...
[21:26] <ikonia> what repos
[21:27] <LuMint> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+package/linux-image-4.4.0-79-generic
[21:27] <LuMint> I was able to successfully boot into it, but my screen resolution and picture are borked
[21:28] <ikonia> LuMint: if it's missing firmware thats to be expected
[21:28] <ikonia> is it missing though because it's not compatible ?
[21:28] <LuMint> ikonia: how can I install it?
[21:28] <LuMint> no idea, i'm running Radeon drivers
[21:28] <ikonia> find out why it's missing
[21:28] <ikonia> I suspect it's because it's not compatible with the later kernel
[21:28] <ikonia> canonical wouldn't just "forget" to put it in
[21:29] <LuMint> I see... I was running an older Radeon driver
[21:30] <LuMint> ikonia: how can I make sure it's not compatible? Should I load the previous kernel and see what video driver version was in use?
[21:30] <ikonia> no
[21:30] <ikonia> it's FIRMWARE
[21:30] <ikonia> not video driver
[21:31] <LuMint> so open source Radeon driver works atop of firmware. That makes sense... Is that a lost cause or should I look for a patch?
[21:31] <ikonia> a patch ?
[21:31] <ikonia> the firmware is missing
[21:31] <ikonia> a.) do you need this firmware b.) why is it missing c.) how does that impact your requirements
[21:35] <LuMint> I think i do, my screen resolution is totally borked. I'm only shown like 1700x900px
[21:36] <LuMint> https://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2285208.html should I try the instructions in the second post?
[21:36] <LuMint> a guy says it worked for his wifi... he had the same firmware misssing
[21:37] <tomreyn> wifi is not graphics
[21:38] <LuMint> yeah I know, but the guy had the same firmware missing
[21:41] <tomreyn> but this thread does not discuss how to solve this issue.
[21:42] <tomreyn> you could just download the linux-firmware package for xenial, it may work with your updated kernel
[21:45] <LuMint> tomreyn: I guess I found the solution. https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2313976&p=13456046#post13456046
[21:46] <LuMint> tomreyn: only I'm not sure it's safe to download firmware files off people.freedesktop.org, what do you think?
[21:48] <nhooyr> why is network manager installed by default on ubuntu server?
[21:48] <tomreyn> i can't evaluatethe security of their webserver.
[21:49] <LuMint> I think it would be better to take this file from https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/linux-firmware
[21:52] <LuMint> let's see if it worked
[21:57] <beefjoe> hi! for some reason my laptop ubuntu 16's internet connection is slower than all of the other devices I have at home. any ideas ?
[22:03] <ikonia> beefjoe: work out what part of it is slow
[22:03] <ikonia> then you can narrow it down
[22:04] <ikonia> and try to get a consistent measure
[22:05] <beefjoe> mainly the upload speed, but it usually hangs while loading until it times out or eventually load
[22:05] <ikonia> how are you measuring this
[22:06] <linux_user> Hear Yee, Hear Yeah, Hear Yee! I have installed UbuntuGNOME flavor and wish to install the UbuntuStudio meta packages thereupon. In order do so I understand that I must choose the proper mix of UbuntuStudio meta packages in order to not transmogrify the regular UbuntuGNOME environment. Can anyone offer me some guidance on a recommended set of the packages to load? I tried installing ubuntustudio-video,
[22:06] <linux_user> ubuntustudio-audio, ubuntustudio-photography, ubuntustudio-publishing, ubuntustudio-graphics. But after I did, the GNOME GUI crashed or stopped working and I could never get the machine reboot back into GUI mode!?! It is a virtual machine running under VMware Linux.
[22:06] <ikonia> linux_user: you've just said a load of random words
[22:06] <ikonia> linux_user: try to just ask a simple clear question without all the silly noise
[22:07] <ikonia> linux_user: clarify what version of linux you are using
[22:07] <linux_user> I did say it simply. However, the foregoing notwithstanding, I admit I did leave off the Ubuntu variant at issue, and in this case, it is 17.04
[22:08] <LuMint> tomreyn: sadly, it didn't help. I've put the missing firmware file in /lib/firmware/radeon and executed sudo initramfs-update -u, but the screen resolution is still borked.
[22:08] <ikonia> linux_user: no, you padded it with lots of junk
[22:08] <LuMint> What can I do about it?
[22:08] <ikonia> linux_user: exactly WHAT version of ubuntu are you running
[22:09] <linux_user> UbuntuGNOME 17.04, I am trying to install thereupon the UbuntuStudio meta packages, so I can start with UbuntuGNOME yet have the UbuntuStudio meta packages installed. But, whence that was completed (I did try it), the GUI was no more. Literally I was reduced to nothing but a flashing underscore on the screen, yet I could still ssh into the VM.
[22:10] <ikonia> linux_user: we don't need medievil english
[22:10] <LuMint> ikonia: is there anything that can be done about it?
[22:10] <ikonia> linux_user: so why not either install ubuntustudio rather than gnome, or install the ubuntu-studio meta package
[22:10] <ikonia> LuMint: done about what ?
[22:10] <LuMint> ikonia: borked screen resolution after update to 4.4 kernel
[22:11] <LuMint> ikonia: update initramfs doesn't give this warning https://gist.github.com/anonymous/8de44942290e64c907b53ebdf8c7db3a  anymore, but it still doesn't work
[22:11] <ikonia> LuMint: you need to do what I told you a.) find out if you need that firmware b.) find out why it's not included c.) understand a + b and that will offer the best resolution options
[22:12] <linux_user> ikonia: I am not sure what "medievil" (vice medieval) English you are referencing. However, I did install the ubuntu-studio meta packages (I installed 5 of them) are you saying there is a higher level meta package that the 5 or 6 packages I previously enumerated?
[22:12] <LuMint> ikonia: idk why it's not included. It's in https://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/linux-firmware
[22:12] <ikonia> linux_user: ubuntu-studio is the top level meta package
[22:12] <linux_user> OH
[22:12] <linux_user> well, in that case, let me give it a try then!
[22:13] <LuMint> ikonia: i've no idea why the version of linux-firmware I had didn't have it.
[22:13] <ikonia> LuMint: look in your xorg log to get an idea what it's doing when it trys to load the desktop
[22:17] <linux_user> ikonia: appreciation for your assistance is great, however, it is worth of notation that the package you stated "ubuntu-studio" seems to be conspicuously absent and unavailable for UbuntuGNOME 16.04 or 17.04 (I have both installed and apt-cache search returned no such package in either case)
[22:17] <linux_user> worth of=worthy of
[22:18] <LuMint> ikonia: I couldn't make much sense of it. Everything seems okay to me. http://termbin.com/oshs
[22:20] <oerheks> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntustudio-meta maybe the desktop package includes it all ? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/zesty/+package/ubuntustudio-desktop
[22:21] <linux_user> ok, let me try that one then!
[22:21] <LuMint> ikonia: could it be that ati driver 7.3 is not supported by the kernel 4.4?
[22:22] <linux_user> apt-cache search ubuntu | grep -i studio
[22:22] <linux_user> plymouth-theme-ubuntustudio - Ubuntu Studio Plymouth theme
[22:22] <linux_user> ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntustudio - Ubiquity slideshow for Ubuntu Studio
[22:22] <linux_user> ubuntustudio-audio - Ubuntu Studio Audio Package
[22:22] <linux_user> ubuntustudio-audio-core - Ubuntu Studio Audio Core Package
[22:22] <linux_user> ubuntustudio-audio-plugins - Ubuntu Studio audio plugins Package
[22:23] <oerheks> yes, you can read that on the ubuntustudio-meta page ..
[22:23] <LuMint> ikonia: tomreyn my graphics card is listed here as fully supported https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[22:24] <radicate> Anyone here has experience with making Bluetooth work on Ubuntu 16.04?
[22:24] <radicate> It wont find any devices when I'd search
[22:25] <linux_user> I did go to that launchpad page
[22:25] <linux_user> but
[22:25] <linux_user> if I just want the packages, not the wallpaper and that, what is the minimum stuff I can install (meta package wise) to achieve that?
[22:26] <linux_user> I mean the minimum meta packages to get the maximum applications but not all the wallpaper and stuff, as I like UbuntuGNOME
[22:26] <Bashing-om> LuMint: The file reflects 2 graphics's cards . AMD and Nvidia ?? verify this: pastebin - lspci -k|grep -iEA5 'vga|3d' - . Make sure of what we are working with . FGLRX is now history . There is no proprietary driver for AMD .
[22:26] <linux_user> UbuntuGNOME's layout
[22:27] <sebsebseb> hi
[22:27] <sebsebseb> cp to copy file i think or someting hmm
[22:27] <sebsebseb> !copy
[22:28] <LuMint> Bashing-om: i used to use an nvidia card on this PC. http://termbin.com/8kjb
[22:28] <LuMint> Bashing-om: now I'm using an X1600pro
[22:30] <StevieW> hi
[22:31] <StevieW> can somebody help me please? i got ubuntu 17.10 and my firefox browser is loading websites quite slowly sometimes. i already deactivated ipv6 (also in the 'about:config' in firefox). it didn't help. for example youtube-videos are loading slowly sometimes. or google sites. any idea?
[22:32] <StevieW> wifi encryption is set to wpa2 only.
[22:33] <nhooyr> i installed the go snap. How can I access the go binary now?
[22:33] <owen1_> how to run a bash script that opens xterm, cd into a folder, run some command, and keep that xterm open? i tried xterm -e "cd foobar && ls" but it doesn't work ):
[22:34] <LuMint> i'll be right back
[22:34] <sebsebseb> StevieW: did you really mean to put 17.10  instead of 17.04 ?
[22:34] <sebsebseb> StevieW: if so thats pre alpha, and so various bugs are to be expected, even in the alpha quite a few bugs or possible bugs are to be expected. and the channel would be #ubuntu+1 for support
[22:34] <linux_user> any other ideas on the ubuntu-studio stuff?
[22:35] <linux_user> still not clear what packages to install
[22:35] <owen1_> this works: xterm -hold -e "cd /home/oren/p/healthco/admin && ls" & but i can't interact with the xterm! i am almost there..
[22:37] <LuMint_> Bashing-om: any ideas?
[22:38] <oerheks> linux_user, i think all meta packages pull in some backgrounds and fonts, as dependencie, and what would you gain, a few mb
[22:39] <Bashing-om> LuMint_: As you can see there are 2 AMD cards on that system . both GPU:RV530 that take the radeon driver . The nvidia stuff needs to be gone gone ! . As to how to get dual AMD cards functions - I do not know ! .
[22:40] <LuMint_> Bashing-om:  but I don't use two cards! I use just one!
[22:40] <LuMint_> Bashing-om: besides, prior to updating to 4.4. kernel it worked fine w/ 3.13
[22:41] <Bashing-om> LuMint_: Nope, read the xorg file .. and see that lspci output .. 2 cards ! Now ya may only have one card hooked up to a monitor . but the system sees 2 cards .
[22:41] <LuMint_> Bashing-om: why does nvidia stuff need to be gone? Does it interfere with Radeon drivers? As for the graphics cards, I have a graphics card integrated in my mobo (i'm not using it) and a x1600pro (that I'm using)
[22:42] <LuMint_> well, i don't need the second...
[22:44] <LuMint_> Bashing-om: how can I delete the second one?
[22:44] <LuMint_> the one I'm not using?
[22:47] <Bashing-om> LuMint_: The system is presently some kind of confused as to what you want . load Nvidia driver for a card that does not exist . load FGLRX that does not exist . deal with which card is in use ? Gimme a bit to craft up the means to straighten out the system's thinking .
[22:48] <LuMint_> should I blacklist them in modprobe?
[22:48] <LuMint_> I want to use just one card, x1600pro, that's currently hooked up to the monitor
[22:50] <LuMint_> and I'd like to use it with a newer kernel, because it's supported by Ubuntu 16.04 alright
[22:50] <oerheks> LuMint_, normally when your bios is set to GPU = AGP/Pcie, and not internal, you would not see the onboard
[22:50] <LuMint_> kernel 3.13 I had been using before the update is just too old and the system freezes dead when there's too much RAM consumed
[22:51] <isene> But Someone who can give me a hand on libinput (need to disable right-click and let a two-finger-tap become right-click)
[22:51] <LuMint_> oerheks: erm, I don't think it's BIOS' fault
[22:52] <isene> Someone who can give me a hand on libinput (need to disable right-click and let a two-finger-tap become right-click) - and get a palm-detect as the message above shows a perfect example of ;-)
[22:52] <Eduard_Munteanu> BIOS would only make it the primary device, not disable the other completely.
[22:54] <isene> I have xinput showing ' SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad              id=14 ' and ' xinput get-button-map 14 ' showing ' 1 1 1 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 '
[22:55] <isene> I have then disabled right-click - but two-finger-click does nothing (need that to be the right-click)
[22:56] <LuMint_> Eduard_Munteanu: Bashing-om anyway, I hadn't had any problems with it prior to updating to 4.4. Previous updates to 3.17 and 3.19 went OKAY
[22:56] <LuMint_> and my update to 4.4. was acoompanied by this warning https://gist.github.com/anonymous/8de44942290e64c907b53ebdf8c7db3a
[22:56] <LuMint_> I put the missing file in the firmware/radeon folder, so initramfs-update -u doesn't give any more warnings, but it didn't help with the screen resolution
[23:02] <Bashing-om> LuMint_: I do not know what method you followed to get the 4.4 kernel . I bet the 3.17/19 kernels DID support FGLRX . 4.4 does not . All that old stuff needs to be gone gone also and the bew driver (radeon) installed for the AMD card .
[23:04] <nhooyr> on https://snapcraft.io/docs/core/usage running a snap is as simple as entering the snap name into the command line. For me, I have to do `snap run snapname`, what am I doing wrong?
[23:04] <linux_user> oerheks:It has nothing to do with the space it takes up, I totally could not care any less than I do now about that. What I do not want is the GNOME environment to change much from what it is, just want thse UbuntuStudio apps installed to work. I will try installing all the packages and see what it does (I can take a snapshot of the VM first)
[23:05] <LuMint_> Bashing-om: I've installed it w/ package manager, including extras. FGLRX is not even installed (dpkg -l | grep fglrx gives nothing)
[23:05] <neldogz> Hello everyone, I just inserted an ATI HD 7979 graphics card in my Ubuntu 16.04 Desktop but it appears that I am still using the Galium drivers. The system detects the hardware but I would like to use the AMD drivers so that I can do some crytocurrency mining, can someone point me to where I can install the AMD drivers?
[23:06] <Bashing-om> LuMint_: Not according tp the log file ! .. the system is searching for FGLRX for a reason !
[23:08] <LuMint_> Bashing-om: how do I delete fglrx, then?
[23:09] <Bashing-om> neldogz: What shows ' dplg -l | grep xserver-xorg-video-radeon ' ? and what card was in use prior to the ATI HD 7979 ? .
[23:11] <LuMint_> Bashing-om: https://gist.github.com/3f88475c684a460d79382a1a7770890f prior to that I had been using an integrated graphics card
[23:11] <neldogz> Bashing-om, I was originally using an Nvidia GTX 680 but I can no longer mine erth because now you need a graphics card with at least 3GB of memory.. So i removed all that and installed the ATI card. Here is the output
[23:11] <neldogz> ii  xserver-xorg-video-radeon                   1:7.7.0-1                                        amd64        X.Org X server -- AMD/ATI Radeon display driver
[23:12] <LuMint_> Bashing-om: sorry, I thought you were addressing me. So, how do I delete fglrx?
[23:12] <tripger3> hello i need some help getting my windows 7 partion to boot from grub 2 or in anyway
[23:13] <Bashing-om> LuMint_: Rin ' sudo apt purge nvidia* ; sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf ; sudo apt purge fglrx fglrx-amdcccle fglrx-updates fglrx-amdcccle-updates ; sudo apt install dkms ; sudo apt install xserver-xorg-video-radeon ; sudo apt install --reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri xserver-xorg-core ; sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ; sudo update-initramfs -u ' . One command at the time .
[23:14] <Bashing-om> neldogz: Well the AMD driver is installed . did you purge nvidia ?
[23:15] <neldogz> Bashing-om, yes all the Nvidia stuff is purged and if i pull up details, it says: Gallium 0.4 on AMD TAHITI (DRM 2.43.0 / 4.4.0-79-generic, LLVM 3.8.0)
[23:15] <Fallenour> hey what command do I use to kill the graphics interface with ubuntu? I just wanna run headless
[23:15] <tripger3> I am unable to boot the windows recovery cd to fix windows boot manager the disk just says CDBOOT: BootMgr is missing
[23:15] <Fallenour> also, what command do I use to logout? I tried logout, logout -f, and logout -r, no dice
[23:15] <tripger3> switch to terminal with ctrl alt f1
[23:15] <tripger3> then sudo kill lightdm
[23:16] <tripger3> i think
[23:16] <tripger3> one sec le tme check
[23:16] <Fallenour> no dice, but thanks for the try tripger3
[23:16] <tripger3> correction sudo service lightdm stop
[23:16] <Jordan_U> Is there any way, when installing Ubuntu 17.04, to keep my existing @home btrfs subvolume (which was created by automatic btrfs partitioning from a previous Ubuntu install)?
[23:16] <tripger3> to restart it sudo service lightdm start
[23:17] <tripger3> then hit ctrl alt f7 to get back to gui
[23:17] <Fallenour> HAZAAH! but now I dont have terminal LOL
[23:17] <tripger3> did you you switch to ternminal first?
[23:17] <Fallenour> um..
[23:17] <Fallenour> I had a terminal open?
[23:17] <neldogz> Bashing-om, any idea on how to switch from Gallium to the ATI driver?
[23:17] <LuMint_> Bashing-om: nothing is installed. Neither nvidia nor fglrx. cp: cannot stat ‘/etc/X11/xorg.conf’: No such file or directory
[23:18] <Bashing-om> neldogz: We ginna have to sort throygh this as the TAHITI card takes the amdgpu driver .
[23:18] <tripger3> i meant switch to the virtual terminal
[23:18] <Fallenour> tripger3: Im not familiar with that. Honestly im new to running headless, but I like ti way more once i jumped head first, now I cant stand the interface
[23:19] <tripger3> ok so give me a sec and ill write it all out so you have the proper directions
[23:19] <Fallenour> tripger3: HAZAAH!
[23:20] <Bashing-om> LuMint_: Keep on going . not having is a good thing .
[23:20] <Jordan_U> tripger3: Please run boot info script from here: https://github.com/arvidjaar/bootinfoscript and pastebin the RESULTS.txt that it produces.
[23:20] <Fallenour> Tripger3: Also, im gonna try and build openstack on ubuntu. Debian...well...that wasnt a pleasant experience. I got it working...once... but yea! Any advice on that as well would be outstanding. Already have the instructions set up for it.
[23:21] <tripger3> hit ctrl+alt+f1 to switch to terminal view, you can get back to the gui by hitting ctrl+alt+f7. If you need to stop the x-server you can run "sudo service lightdm stop", to restart the xserver run "sudo service lightdm start"
[23:21] <LuMint_> right
[23:22] <tripger3> so to got terminal ctrl+alt+f1 -> sudo service lightdm stop         to return  type "sudo service lightdm start" -> ctrl+alt+f7
[23:22] <nhooyr> ok I figured it out. something to do with my $PATH not being set correctly.
[23:23] <neldogz> Bashing-om, Am i understanding this correctly that I could try installing the LTE Enablement stack? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMDGPU-Driver
[23:23] <tripger3> sorry im pretty new hear myself and trying to solve an issue getting my windows 7 booting again
[23:23] <Bashing-om> neldogz: lemme read . HWE should not be a factor .
[23:23] <tripger3> damn uefi and bootmgr
[23:24] <Fallenour> is there a default root password for ubuntu im not aware of?
[23:24] <tripger3> here*
[23:24] <neldogz> Bashing-om, yeah, looks like it doesn't apply actually: In Ubuntu 14.04 and 16.04 with kernel Linux 4.4.0, if you find problems with the Radeon R7 M260/M265 (Topaz) or R9 M395X (Tonga) graphics cards, you can:
[23:24] <genii> !root | Fallenour
[23:24] <Fallenour> I cant log in as root, and I need it for dist-upgrade
[23:24] <tripger3> run sudo before your commands, it gives you root access to what you run
[23:25] <tripger3> so "sudo dist-upgrade"
[23:25] <Fallenour> tripger3: I already tried that with sudo apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:25] <Fallenour> unless the sudo portion isnt inherited
[23:25] <Jordan_U> tripger3: Did you see my request for boot info script output?
[23:25] <tripger3> hey jordan will do
[23:25] <Bashing-om> neldogz: An August list of supported cards : https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Amdgpu .
[23:26] <Jordan_U> tripger3: Also, if you have multiple OSs and you want to maintain your sanity then they should all be configured to boot via the same boot firmware interface, i.e. either all BIOS or all UEFI. If your boot firmware supports UEFI then ideally you should be going all UEFI.
[23:27] <neldogz> Bashing-om, yes, I can see the HD7970 on there under the Southern Island family name
[23:27] <Fallenour> tripger3: it seems that it is indeed, not inherited. ubottu: Then how do I access root in ubuntu?
[23:28] <genii> Fallenour: Put sudo before EVERY apt command, not just the first one
[23:29] <Bashing-om> neldogz: We got to figure out how to remove the radeon driver and get the amdgpu driver installed / I got no experience with this later hardware !
[23:29] <Fallenour>   genii: no I get that, but that still leaves root as an existing user account on my system. Specifically one that I dont know the credential to. Thats a potential security concern
[23:29] <neldogz> Bashing-om, I am reading this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD
[23:29] <tripger3> Jordan they should all be UEFI, the BIOS option does not seem to work at all, i think at the root of the issue is that I formatted the Windows loader
[23:30] <tripger3> https://paste2.org/m5k19aj7
[23:30] <tgm4883> Fallenour: root doesn't have credentials
[23:30] <genii> Fallenour: Root account on ubuntu has 1) No viable password  2) login is disabled
[23:30] <tgm4883> Fallenour: not having credentials is not the same as you not knowing what the credentials are
[23:30] <Fallenour> genii: thatss the magic im hunting for! Alrighty!
[23:30] <tripger3> Jordan will that work, generated from Boot-Repair
[23:31] <Fallenour> next question. when I run sudo adduser, I get denied, error message is "only root can..."
[23:31] <tgm4883> genii: no viable password. I like that and I'm stealing it from now on ;)
[23:31] <neldogz> Bashing-om, none of the walk through pages seem to help.. I wonder If I am running a card on a version of Ubuntu that is just simply not supported.. I do not see the AMD card under the additional drivers tool
[23:31] <Fallenour> how am I supposed to add/remove users  from sudo or root usergroups if I cant access it?
[23:31] <genii> tgm4883: Enjoy
[23:31] <tgm4883> Fallenour: usermod ?
[23:31] <Fallenour> usermod?
[23:32] <Fallenour> link please? im not familiar with this command. Im used to using adduser
[23:32] <genii> Fallenour: Any operation which requires admin (root) use sudo for
[23:32] <tgm4883> Fallenour: well adduser should work for adding a user, so I'd have to see exactly what you're doing. If you're just adding a user to an existing group, I'd suggest usermod
[23:32] <Fallenour> adduser (username) (groupname)
[23:32] <Fallenour> adduser me sudo ; adduser me root
[23:32] <Fallenour> its my generic two
[23:33] <tgm4883> Fallenour: sudo adduser me sudo
[23:33] <tgm4883> actually, that wouldn't work
[23:33] <genii> Fisrt user with uid 1000 is already in sudo group
[23:33] <genii> *first
[23:33] <tgm4883> Adding yourself to sudo isn't going to work because you'd need sudo privs to do so
[23:33] <tgm4883> genii: +1
[23:34] <Fallenour> ooook, so Id need to take the first account, which is administrator by default, and use that to script the creating of all the other credentials?
[23:34] <Jordan_U> tripger3: I'm much more familiar with the output of the script I linked to, though to be honest I'm also used to Boot-Repair's Boot Info Script output being very close to the fork I linked you to, but your output looks very different.
[23:34] <tripger3> yeah sure i under stand will just take me a minute
[23:34] <nanodrone> I'm on Ubuntu 16.10 and I installed the 4.10.10-xxxxxx kernel, Whenever I'm using this kernel, virtualbox doesn't work. How can I workaround it (without installing 17.04), I need the kernel.
[23:34] <Fallenour> bbl, food
[23:35] <LuMint> no, it didn't help
[23:36] <Jordan_U> tripger3: Please also pastebin the output of "sudo efibootmgr" and "find /boot/efi/".
[23:36] <neldogz> Bashing-om, OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on AMD TAHITI (DRM 2.43.0 / 4.4.0-79-generic, LLVM 3.8.0)
[23:36] <Jordan_U> nanodrone: Make sure that you have the headers for that kernel installed, so that the virtualbox drivers can be built (via DKMS).
[23:37] <neldogz> Bashing-om, this is similar: https://askubuntu.com/questions/879325/how-to-switch-from-radeonsi-driver-to-amdgpu-open-source-ubunut-16-04-x-lts
[23:37] <Lorne2017> Hey - I'm on 17.04 ...and when logging in (with correct password) - it kicks me out immediately back to login screen.  Any thoughts?
[23:37] <tripger3> https://paste2.org/I5zCPvs7 just the script output will get the others in a sec
[23:37] <nanodrone> Jordan_U, where do I get the headers for 4.10.10-041010-generic
[23:37] <nanodrone> I tried apt but they're not available.
[23:37] <LuMint> Bashing-om: it didn't help
[23:37] <Jordan_U> Lorne2017: Probably X or your DE session (Unity, Gnome Shell, etc) crashing.
[23:38] <Jordan_U> nanodrone: How did you install 4.10.10-041010-generic?
[23:38] <nanodrone> Jordan_U, using the deb files for kernel.ubuntu
[23:38] <nanodrone> from*
[23:38] <Jordan_U> nanodrone: Then install the kernel header package from the same place.
[23:39] <LuMint> Jordan_U: hello! I got a problem with kernel update, too. Perhaps you could help me out?
[23:39] <Lorne2017> Jordan_U Is there some command i can use to update all my packages ?   Or to otherwise fix it?
[23:39] <Jordan_U> Lorne2017: sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
[23:39] <nanodrone> Jordan_U, linux-headers-4.10.10-041010-generic_4.10.10-041010.201704120813_amd64.deb ?
[23:40] <Lorne2017> Jordan_U thx...trying....
[23:40] <tripger3> https://paste2.org/0sGOMNn5 ok that has script info as well as the other two outputs appended to the bottom
[23:40] <Jordan_U> nanodrone: That looks right, yes.
[23:40] <nanodrone> Jordan_U, I already installed that. Didn't do the trick :(
[23:40] <genii> Lorne2017: This can also be a result of some files in your home dir not belonging to you anymore. So I'd recommend a: sudo chown -R your-username:your-username /home/your-username
[23:41] <genii> Lorne2017: This can happen if you previously ran something graphical with sudo instead of gksudo, or otherwise changed permissions or ownership of files there
[23:42] <Lorne2017> genii  Yeah - might be graphical related - been fighting with my NVIDIA driver all weekend....
[23:42] <neldogz> Bashing-om, I am trying this going to reboot: http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDGPU-PRO-Install.aspx
[23:42] <Lorne2017> genii OK - I ran that command... seemed to take it happily... do I reboot now?
[23:43] <nanodrone> Examining /etc/kernel/header_postinst.d.
[23:43] <nanodrone> run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/header_postinst.d/dkms 4.10.10-041010-generic /boot/vmlinuz-4.10.10-041010-generic
[23:43] <nanodrone> ERROR (dkms apport): kernel package linux-headers-4.10.10-041010-generic is not supported
[23:43] <nanodrone> Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 4.10.10-041010-generic (x86_64)
[23:43] <nanodrone> Consult /var/lib/dkms/virtualbox/5.1.6/build/make.log for more information.
[23:43] <genii> Lorne2017: No need, just try logging in again
[23:43] <nanodrone> What does this mean?
[23:43] <Lorne2017> Jordan_U  ...also performed your command and it updated a bunch of things...
[23:43] <Jordan_U> nanodrone: You may need a newer version of Virtualbox. Try asking in #vbox.
[23:44] <LuMint> Jordan_U: my ati 7.3 driver broke when updating from 3.13 to 4.4, any ideas on how to fix it?
[23:44] <Jordan_U> LuMint: Please pastebin the output of "lsb_release -a".
[23:44] <Lorne2017> genii  Sorry... it flashes a few funcky screens (ending in the purple canonical login screen)...then the bongos sound effect and my regular login screen returns... :(
[23:44] <nanodrone> Jordan_U, I already have the latest version :(
[23:44] <nanodrone> Think I'm just gonna have to upgrade to 17.04.
[23:45] <LuMint> Jordan_U: it's 14.04
[23:45] <genii> Lorne2017: So then we've narrowed it to be most likely a driver issue.
[23:45] <Jordan_U> LuMint: Please pastebin the output of "lsb_release -a" anyway.
[23:45] <tripger3> so anyone have any clue on getting windows 7 to boot?
[23:46] <Lorne2017> genii awesome...:)   How do I fix that...?
[23:46] <Jordan_U> tripger3: OK, both OSs are configured to such that they can boot via UEFI, which is good. Are you able to select Windows from your boot firmwar menus (rather than grub) and boot successfully?
[23:47] <genii> Lorne2017: How did you previously try to install the nvidia driver?
[23:47] <LuMint> Jordan_U: https://gist.github.com/447fa3ebd5f738134e781bf6e926b0f0
[23:47] <tripger3> boot firmware? doesnt seem to be present if you are referring to the second partition installed with windows i formatted over that in a fit of stupidity
[23:48] <Lorne2017> genii Yes. - I have NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-367.35.run in my folder.... do you want me to run it?  (sudo sh NVIDIA....)
[23:48] <Jordan_U> tripger3: Well if you deleted one of your Windows partitions that would likely be the root problem. Maybe ##windows can help you re-create it, though you may need to re-install Windows.
[23:49] <genii> Lorne2017: It is better instead at this time to uninstall it using the instructions from the Nvidia website. And then to find out what exact card you have and the best version driver for it.
[23:49] <tripger3> as of right now windows boot manager still shows in bios even though there is no partition currently there for it, also cannot even boot from the factory install disk for windows
[23:49] <Jordan_U> tripger3: But no, that's not what I'm referring to. I'm referring to what people often call the "BIOS".
[23:50] <genii> Lorne2017: I have to go do some chores for 7-10 minutes but I'll still be in the channel and read scroll when I get back.
[23:50] <tripger3> can't even reinstall windows, cd literally will not boot only words are CDBOOT: BootMgr is missing
[23:50] <Lorne2017> genii  So this one worked before...*sigh*
[23:51] <Jordan_U> tripger3: Well, seems more like a Windows problem rather than an Ubuntu one. Let's move this discussion to ##windows.
[23:51] <genii> Lorne2017: If you install the nvidia one from their site, it does not update to make a new driver each time you upgrade the kernel. Whereas the ones built for ubuntu update the dkms every time
[23:51] <genii> back in a bit
[23:52] <LuMint> Jordan_U: when I instaled the 4.4. kernel, I got this warning https://gist.github.com/anonymous/8de44942290e64c907b53ebdf8c7db3a now I fixed the warning by pasting the missing file in /lib/firmware/radeon, there's no warning now, but it didn fix borked screen resolution
[23:52] <Jordan_U> LuMint: How, and why, did you install a 4.4 kernel?
[23:53] <LuMint> with package manager
[23:53] <LuMint> including extras
[23:53] <LuMint> Jordan_U: then I reconfigured Xorg and reinstalled some mesa stuff on advice from Bashing-om and then ran update-initramfs -u again, then rebooted, but it didn't help
[23:54] <Lorne2017> genii so I found a more recent version 375.66 on NVIDIA's website - and have it downloaded to my win machine... do you think I can "sudo apt-get..." something like that?
[23:57] <Lorne2017> genii  OK - I'm sure that was a dumb q...because it didn't work (lol)... I have now put the file on a thumb drive...can you walk me thru mounting (and finding!) the thumb drive...do I need to copy the file somewhere before I execute it?
[23:57] <Dreaman> my work driver is in repos
[23:59] <Bashing-om> LuMint: Jordan_U :: show us a new /var/log/Xorg.0.log file . see what X thinks now .
[23:59] <genii> Lorne2017: It is better not to install drivers at all into Ubuntu from Nvidia's site directly. They modify some system files which need to be restored by running their specific uninstall commands before being able to successfully install more appropriate drivers from either the normal repositories or the xorg-edgers PPA