[01:03] <menn0> wallyworld or axw: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/7512 pls
[01:03] <wallyworld> sure, will do straight after standup
[01:23] <wallyworld> menn0: lgtm, really great that this ForModel stuff is going away
[01:24] <menn0> wallyworld: thank you
[01:25] <wallyworld> axw: i forgit to ask you about bug 1680523 - could the issue the user is still having be cause he might need to upgrade to 2.2?
[01:25] <mup> Bug #1680523: add-credential azure fails <juju:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1680523>
[01:28] <axw> wallyworld: the latest reporter, Ali, is using 2.2 - you can tell by the "subscription (optional)" in the output
[01:29] <axw> wallyworld: I have no idea why that issue is happening
[01:29] <wallyworld> ok
[01:31] <wallyworld> axw: is there any way we can ask him to provide azure cli logs or something, to allow us to see what might be happening or to pass on to ms if we need help diagnosing?
[01:32] <axw> wallyworld: we got as much logging as we could from Tommy who had the same issue, and that wasn't helpful
[01:32] <wallyworld> damn, ok
[01:33] <axw> wallyworld: I've provided him a workaround for now. I've already asked MS for help, but so far they haven't come back with anything
[01:33] <wallyworld> ok
[01:33] <axw> I'll see if Uros can poke them
[05:06] <menn0> jam: I'm back from the doc and need to take care of dinner and the kids so I can't make stand up
[05:06] <menn0> jam: my wife is quite sick
[05:06] <menn0> jam: I'll jump back on later though
[05:06] <jam> menn0: k, take care of the family
[05:25] <jam> menn0: will you be around for 1:1? or just later tonight/
[05:28] <jam> I'm going to assume you're busy, but you can ping me if you're not
[05:28] <jam> I'm happy to meet with you whenever you're around
[10:38] <menn0> jam: i'm around now. it turns out my son has it too now.
[10:43] <jam> menn0: but not the rest?
[10:44] <menn0> jam: well my daughter had it when we were on holidays and I've had it as a child, so that's everyone I guess
[10:47] <jam> menn0: full house... :)
[10:47] <jam> menn0: so I have another phone call in 15, I'm happy to chat now, or if you'll still be around, in ~1hr?
[10:47] <menn0> jam: indeed.
[10:48] <menn0> jam: babbageclunk's family stayed with us over the weekend so hopefully they don't get it
[10:48] <jam> menn0: my son was vaccinated for it when he was young, but it did make rounds around his school a couple years ago
[10:48] <menn0> jam: it isn't part of the UK or NZ schedule
[10:48] <menn0> jam: ironically it will be in NZ as of next week
[10:49] <menn0> jam: regarding your comment here: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/7513
[10:50] <jam> menn0: I was wondering if we would actually want to change ForModel to just be "grab it from the pool"
[10:50] <menn0> jam: that's not so straight forward
[10:51] <menn0> jam: the only StatePool exists on apiserver
[10:51] <jam> ah ok
[10:51] <menn0> jam: I'm +1 on the name change though
[10:51] <menn0> jam: StatePool *calls* ForModel when it needs to create a new one
[10:52] <menn0> jam: I believe axw is pulling up the apiserver's StatePool so it can be used more widely by other controller workers
[10:52] <menn0> jam: I actually wanted to discuss your comment about forward porting
[10:53] <menn0> jam: I'm not against the idea of mass merging 2.2 into develop
[10:53] <menn0> jam: my main concern is, that's a departure what we've usually done
[10:53] <menn0> jam: who owns making sure that the merge happens?
[10:58] <jam> menn0: its what we did (I did maybe primarily) for 2.0 to 2.1
[10:58] <jam> I think Ian did some as well
[10:58] <jam> menn0: Its mostly that when you land something on 2.2 is the point where you then merge it up
[10:58] <jam> rather than someone doing it async, we just do it as part of landing your full patch
[11:02] <menn0> jam: who do you mean when you say "we"?
[11:03] <jam> menn0: each person when they work on something that lands in 2.2 then merges 2.2 into develop rather than proposing a different branch to develop
[11:04] <menn0> jam: ok fair enough
[11:30] <jam> menn0: I'm off the phone if you'd like to chat
[11:33] <menn0> jam: sure, give me 2 mins
[11:34] <menn0> jam: actually, make that 10
[11:34] <jam> k
[11:42] <menn0> jam: ok
[11:42] <jam> menn0: https://hangouts.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/john-menno?authuser=1
[21:19] <thumper> FYI, taking swap day today
[21:20] <veebers> thumper: glad to see you made it home safe, finally
[21:21] <thumper> it was a long trip that's for sure
[21:21] <thumper> I'm not really here
[21:21] <thumper> :)