[01:28] <ruben23> hi there guys how do i set a sudo user to have passwordless everytime i run a command.? any idea
[01:28] <genii> It's an extremely horrible idea but can be done in the sudoers file
[01:28] <Ben64> yeah it's a bad idea
[01:29] <ruben23> genii: yes just need to test something, pls can you guide into somehow
[01:31] <genii> Do you know how to use vi?
[01:33] <ruben23> i uncomment this
[01:33] <genii> Basically: sudo visudo      .... and to the line which says: %sudo   ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL          to add a space and then put: NOPASSWD:ALL    and then save and exit
[01:34] <ruben23> i uncomment this
[01:34] <ruben23> https://pastebin.com/feXzDPcB
[01:44] <tonton1> hello
[04:09] <IShavedForThis_> does anyone use plex here, and if so, do you know of a good application to rename files according the the plex name syntax?
[04:45] <oerheks> IShavedForThis_, you didn't answer tomreyn earlier, and now, what is plex name syntax?
[05:31] <cpaelzer> good morning
[06:20] <arunpyasi> What may be the reason for " kernel panic-not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0) " ? Its 16.04, I already had it installed and running fine.. but later, I got that error while boot but boots fine in the advanced option recovery mode..
[06:32] <hateball> arunpyasi: filesystem or physical error perhaps
[06:32] <hateball> arunpyasi: run recovery (or liveboot) and fsck your partitions
[06:33] <hateball> and then you may want to check the drive for errors with smartctl
[06:34] <arunpyasi> hateball, I did fsck, nothing happened.
[06:34] <arunpyasi> hateball, so, can be a physical error ?
[06:34] <arunpyasi> hateball, how do I find the faulty HDD with smartctl ?
[06:35] <arunpyasi> I did saw only 8 bad sectors.. does that mean this HDD cannot be used anymore ?
[06:41] <hateball> arunpyasi: I personally replace drives soon as they get 1 bad sector
[06:41] <hateball> It usually means they'll be going dead sooner rather than later
[06:41] <hateball> arunpyasi: but check also for read/write errors
[06:41] <hateball> as sectors *can* be marked as bad and the drive still continue to work
[06:42] <hateball> It depends how much you value your data I guess :)
[06:43] <arunpyasi> hateball, hmm.. It doesn't have data but the softwares and their configurations
[06:43] <arunpyasi> hateball, so, 8 bad sector is huge?
[06:46] <arunpyasi> hateball, Read Error value is 0
[06:56] <hateball> arunpyasi: could you pastebin the output of that smartctl ?
[07:09] <arunpyasi> hateball, http://dpaste.com/0PWYX2M
[07:29] <hateball> arunpyasi: doesnt look unhealthy other than the bad sectors
[07:30] <hateball> arunpyasi: I'd keep an eye on it tho
[07:32] <arunpyasi> hateball, so, what may be the other way for it ? What more can I try ?
[08:24] <Guest89023> hey hey
[08:24] <Guest89023> hello MONDAY
[08:24] <Guest89023> :D
[08:51] <lordievader> o/
[08:52] <hehehe> heya
[08:52] <hehehe> lordievader: are you a kimsufi user by a chance?
[08:52] <hehehe> I may get it :) or similar
[08:52] <lordievader> hehehe: Never heard of that....
[08:52] <lordievader> What is it?
[08:52] <hehehe> whaaaat
[08:52] <hehehe> one of the cheapest servers providers in the world
[08:52] <hehehe> :)
[08:53] <hehehe> apart scaleway
[08:53] <lordievader> I think I am cheaper :P (free)
[08:53] <lordievader> Well sort of anyways.
[08:53] <hehehe> lol you host raspberry at home?
[08:53] <lordievader> Among others.
[08:54] <hehehe> yes it can be cheaper that way for sure
[08:54] <hehehe> but I am moving often to I choose DC
[08:54] <hehehe> so I
[08:54] <hehehe> else I have to drag a bunch of boxes with me
[08:55] <lordievader> My primary server has an i7.
[08:55] <hehehe> but why do you have so many at home?
[08:56] <hehehe> whats your latency like?
[08:56] <lordievader> Hobby ;)
[08:56] <lordievader> Latency to what?
[08:56] <hehehe> I though you are hosting production server there
[08:56] <hehehe> some saas
[08:56] <hehehe> :D
[08:56] <hehehe> I can imagine customers lag :D
[08:57] <lordievader> No, just private stuff.
[08:57] <hehehe> https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/103257/tutorial-create-your-own-windows-template-using-virtualbox
[08:57] <hehehe> so nice :D
[08:57] <hehehe> can install windows on cheap linux boxes :D
[08:57] <lordievader> Network of the university is quite nice :) 40Gbit up \o/
[08:58] <hehehe> haha
[08:58] <hehehe> you need to run server on sinclair or spectrum or robotron
[08:58] <hehehe> some ancient crap :D
[08:59] <lordievader> ?
[08:59] <hehehe> probably it may even work
[08:59] <hehehe> for fun
[08:59] <hehehe> try to fun server on some ancient concole
[08:59] <hehehe> console'
[08:59] <hehehe> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man1/audio2tape.1.html
[08:59] <hehehe> LOL
[08:59] <hehehe> whats that?
[09:03] <hehehe> anyways
[09:03] <hehehe> my idea is find a cheap powerful host
[09:03] <hehehe> and install windows on it :D
[09:03] <hehehe> and scaleway provides cloud baremetal
[09:03] <hehehe> I wonder how they can do it
[09:03] <hehehe> provision time 2-3 min
[09:04] <lordievader> Why?
[09:06] <hehehe> why @windows?
[09:06] <hehehe> I use it for work :)
[09:07] <hehehe> at home I use linux
[09:07] <gheorghe> @hehehe, the corporation you work at makes you use windows? do you live the same horror as I do?
[09:08] <hehehe> well I like all OSes I even had MacOs server :)
[09:08] <hehehe> as to forced nope - but some software there wont work on linux
[09:09] <hehehe> especially stuff like qq messenger
[09:09] <hehehe> btw https://udemycoupon.org/
[09:09] <hehehe> some free udemy courses lol
[09:13] <gheorghe> we use skype for business and that doesn't work properly on linux
[09:13] <gheorghe> well, it works on android.
[09:14] <hateball> out of all the voice/video things I've used I find Skype to be the least reliable one
[09:14] <hateball> anything webrtc is just... nice
[09:16] <gheorghe> @hateball: what alternatives to skype for business did you sue?
[09:18] <hateball> gheorghe: well the most comparable would be Hangouts
[09:20] <hateball> depends if you need the PBX stuff or not
[09:20] <hateball> appear.in is nice for one-off things
[09:20] <hateball> and there's plenty others
[09:22] <gheorghe> thank you for the information! now i can make fun of my managers
[09:24] <hateball> heh
[09:24] <hateball> well if you're running a mostly microsoft environment, especially with exchange, then skype is a natural choice
[09:25] <hateball> It's just that there are better options, as all of us using Linux are aware of ;)
[09:28] <gheorghe> yes, and this affects my mindset when I work with the tools provided by the company. of course they have AD and exchange and skype and all the microsoft stuff...
[09:46] <Fieldy> yuck :/
[09:49] <hehehe> :)
[09:49] <hehehe> whats the easiest vnc server out there?
[09:49] <hehehe> i installed some following tutorial and its a clusterfuck :D
[09:49] <Vorap> hehehe: I'd recommend xrdp, I'
[09:50] <Vorap> ve used it before
[09:50] <Vorap> And it has been very nice and easy to use¨'
[09:51] <gheorghe> i use vino since it is default with gnome3
[09:52]  * lordievader like xpra
[09:52] <lordievader> If you don't use keys for your ssh, there is even a Windows client :P
[09:54] <hehehe> Vorap: do I need to install mate client or similar for xrdp?
[09:54] <hehehe> it seems its not a friend with gnome :D
[09:56] <hehehe> lordievader: well xpra is doing what?
[09:56] <hehehe> once installed it can be used to connect to a desktop remotely?
[09:56] <lordievader> hehehe: Basically tmux/screen for xforwarding.
[09:57] <lordievader> You normaly don't run an entire desktop, but just the applications you need.
[09:57] <hehehe> lol its ubuntu desktop server
[09:57] <hehehe> lordievader: what do u mean?
[09:57] <lordievader> hehehe: Do you know what X forwarding is?
[09:57] <hehehe> i usually run entire desktop
[09:58] <hehehe> itX11
[09:58] <hehehe> i just want something simple
[09:58] <hehehe> :)
[09:58] <hehehe> to connect to remote ubuntu desktop
[09:59] <lordievader> X forwarding allows you to run an application on a remote host and see the gui locally.
[09:59] <lordievader> Xpra allows you to attach and detach to such a process.
[10:00] <hehehe> cool
[10:00] <lordievader> I've used it for things that needed to keep running in a browser.
[10:00] <hehehe> can it be used for virtual box?
[10:00] <hehehe> so with x forwarding u can use server instead of desktop?
[10:00] <hehehe> hmm
[10:01] <lordievader> Virtualbox runs its own vnc, right?
[10:01] <hehehe> I dont know :D
[10:01] <hehehe> yet to install it
[10:01] <hehehe> does it?
[10:01] <lordievader> Thought so, haven't used it in ages. Qemu/libvirt does.
[10:02] <hehehe> why
[10:03] <cpaelzer> yeah also always going with qemu/libvirt
[10:03] <lordievader> Qemu is in most cases faster (on Linux).
[10:04] <cpaelzer> The only thing I still sometimes have to admit is the UI for USB forwarding on virtualbox is nicer
[10:04] <lordievader> Tooling around it is also much nicer.
[10:04] <cpaelzer> other than that all seems to be better around qemu/libvirt these days
[10:11] <hehehe> xrdp nearly works but why no copy paste passwd there?
[10:12] <hehehe> have to type pass by hand
[10:12] <hehehe> like wtf sometimes I think people dont think
[10:12] <hehehe> who is going to type random chars 40+ passwd by hand
[10:12] <hehehe> :D
[10:19] <hehehe> Vorap: thanks :D
[10:30] <hehehe> it seems aptitude stuck
[10:30] <hehehe> how I can see if its installing something or not?
[10:30] <hehehe> :)
[10:38] <hehehe> I can kill apt via pid
[10:38] <hehehe> but I just run - update system via system software gui
[10:38] <hehehe> .. :D
[10:40] <hehehe> fixed
[10:50] <gheorghe> the GUI is always odd. i never update with the gui, just with apt
[10:51] <gheorghe> i use the GUI only for network settings since it seems to overwrite stuff you do via terminal
[10:51] <gheorghe> and anyway, i deploy all servers without gui
[10:51] <gheorghe> i use gui only @home for games & facebook
[10:53] <hehehe> ::)))
[11:15] <redvic> hi need help with data recovery form a external can someone advise or point to a chat room that might
[11:21] <hehehe> recover as?
[11:21] <hehehe> more details
[11:28] <redvic> I have a external hard drive WD elements, shows folders but empty inside and when I try to copy image on root of the drive it takes forever, drive is slow and makes noises. Drive is damaged
[11:29] <lordievader> redvic: Could you pastebin the output of 'sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdX' (where X refers to the drive letter of the external drive)
[11:45] <redvic> lordievader, will try now
[11:57] <cpaelzer> jamespage: did you override the mininet dep8 test issues in artful-proposed?
[11:58] <cpaelzer> jamespage: 2.2.2-1 migrated, but follow on tests triggering it still fail the same way
[11:58] <jamespage> cpaelzer: no
[11:58] <cpaelzer> or was that a retry-button-push-fest :-)
[11:58] <cpaelzer> hmm interesting http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/mininet/artful/amd64 holds no 2.2.2-1 pass
[11:59] <cpaelzer> but there should be at least one from its own sync I'd think
[12:01] <redvic> lordievader, terminals says command not found
[12:01] <lordievader> redvic: Install it, sudo apt-get install smartmontools
[12:11] <cpaelzer> jamespage: I'll try to recreate and let you know if I find something to discuss
[12:11] <cpaelzer> jamespage: if you hear about anybody else who might have forced that through let me know
[12:14] <redvic> lordievader, can just copy paste output here?
[12:14] <lordievader> !paste | redvic
[12:18] <redvic> ubottu, ok it just one line as it failed
[12:19] <redvic> lordievader, Read Device Identity failed: empty IDENTIFY data
[12:19] <lordievader> redvic: What command did you issue?
[12:20] <redvic> lordievader, sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdb
[12:21] <lordievader> redvic: You probably need the '-d sat' flag, thus: sudo smartctl -d sat -a /dev/sdb
[12:22] <redvic> lordievader, it worked now to figure out how to get it to you
[12:22] <cpaelzer> jamespage: ok, at least locally reproducible with artful (without proposed) - that confirms my expectation
[12:23] <lordievader> redvic: See the paste output of ubottu ;)
[12:24] <redvic> lordievader, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24899024/
[12:25] <lordievader> redvic: Ah, 51 pending sectors. Could be worse, but yes. Probably a good idea to replace the drive.
[12:26] <lordievader> About the missing files, if an fsck has run (and it is some ext filesystem), did you check the lost+found folder?
[12:30] <redvic> lordievader, there is now lost and found folder so should i do a fsck ?
[12:31] <lordievader> redvic: What kind of filesystem is on there?
[12:38] <redvic> lordievader, I am batteling to check file system gui properties displays nothing and terminal gives a error lodaing operating system
[12:39] <redvic> lordievader, i used sudo file -sL /dev/sdb command
[12:40] <redvic> lordievader, fuseblk ??
[12:40] <lordievader> redvic: blkid tells you ;)
[12:56] <redvic> lordievader, sudo blkid /dev/sdb
[12:56] <redvic>  PTUUID="0004a9a0" PTTYPE="dos"
[12:57] <lordievader> redvic: What is the full output of 'sudo blkid'?
[13:01] <redvic> sudo blkid /dev/sdb: PTUUID="0004a9a0" PTTYPE="dos" that is it
[13:01] <redvic> lordievader, is my command correct
[13:02] <redvic> lord
[13:02] <redvic> lordievader, the owner uses the drive on whindows so DOS does seem like a option
[13:03] <lordievader> redvic: Well, you want to see what kind of filesystem is on the partition, sdb refers to a disk, sdb1, for example, refers to the first partition on the disk.
[13:03] <lordievader> But if it is used on Windows it is most likely ntfs... and I have no experience with file recovery on ntfs filesystems.
[13:04] <redvic> lordievader, used gui disks option and it says partition type for sdb1 is HPFS/NTFS so NTFS?
[13:05] <lordievader> Yes, probably.
[13:07] <redvic> lordievader, /dev/sdb1: LABEL="Backup Kuehl" UUID="60CC5B9ACC5B6974" TYPE="ntfs" PARTUUID="0004a9a0-01"
[13:07] <redvic> lordievader, got the command right and it also says NTFS
[13:08] <lordievader> Yeah, indeed.
[13:08] <redvic> lordievader, any advise on how to get the data back? it so frustating to see the data and not be able to copy
[13:08] <lordievader> Oh, you do see it?
[13:08] <lordievader> I'd dd the disk first, and play with that. Leave the disk as is.
[13:09] <redvic> lordievader, dd ?
[13:09] <lordievader> !dd
[13:09] <lordievader> Hmm
[13:09] <lordievader> !info dd
[13:09] <lordievader> redvic: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man1/dd.1.html
[13:10] <redvic> drive is connected to my laptop ubuntu 16.04 lts
[13:12] <cpaelzer> jamespage: I found the bug, need to fix openvswitch debian/test/vanilly&dpdk scripts
[13:13] <cpaelzer> jamespage: I don't see how that passed proposed, but I opened a bug and will fix it
[13:13] <cpaelzer> jamespage: TL;DR the new openvswitch-testcontroller spawns a service by default which is blocking the mininet handling as the tests use it
[13:13] <jamespage> cpaelzer: tbh it still remains a bit of black magic to me
[13:13] <jamespage> cpaelzer: oh ok
[13:13] <jamespage> odd
[13:13] <cpaelzer> jamespage: stopping that service in advance to the tests resolves the issue by not blocking the port then
[13:14] <jamespage> you might not need the openvswitch-testcontroller any longer then
[13:14] <jamespage> not sure
[13:14] <cpaelzer> I'll try that as an alternative solution as well
[13:15] <cpaelzer> jamespage: bug 1698808 for tracking and eventually fix
[13:27] <geojunkieSCI> ??paste
[13:48] <hehehe> quemu is nice
[13:48] <hehehe> :D
[13:48] <hehehe> a bit more learning curve however seems working well
[13:48] <hehehe> :)
[14:50] <axisys> anyone has ubuntu running dl380 gen9 or like? I am trying to find out how to switch to passthrough raid?
[15:00] <drab> axisys: ime (I researched the same thing for my SM servers) it's less about the server and ubuntu and more about the controller
[15:00] <drab> in my case for example it's LSI controller which was flashed to IT mode
[15:03] <drab> so I'd find exactly what raid card that server has and then google for that mode and JBOD mode / IT mode (which may already be possible as is)
[15:10] <qman__> right, it's controller dependent, some support it, some can be flashed to support it, some can't
[15:14] <axisys> I am trying to find out a "how to"
[15:19] <axisys> so with passthrough.. do I still worry about the controller battery?
[15:19] <axisys> like when it expires, need to replace it?
[15:33] <yoink> So I've got an odd issue: I can't delete a directory; I'm being told it's not empty, except it's empty and there are no hidden files and as superuser I should be able to do so - but sadly I cannot.
[15:38] <genii> yoink: Tried with rm -rf /dirname  instead of rmdir /dirname  ?
[15:38] <yoink> genii: many times.
[15:38] <yoink> :(
[15:38] <yoink> I tried moving the directory and then deleting... nothing.
[15:39] <yoink> I wonder if it's a filesystem issue.
[15:40] <genii> yoink: Is the directory a mount point?
[15:41] <yoink> genii: nope - it was a deep subfolder in a build pipeline on a remote runner.
[15:42] <genii> yoink: Is your commandline prompt sitting inside the directory you're trying to remove?
[15:42] <yoink> Builds started failing one day and it was because this dirctory in question couldn't be deleted. So I logged in to delete it and found the same issue.
[15:43] <genii> yoink: A remount of the partition it's on in read-only and and fsck of that partition seem in order
[15:43] <yoink> genii: sadly no... I can not remove it no matter where I am, and I applied 777 permissions on it just to make sure it wasn't permission-related. The directly does have an oddly large size listed (20K vs 4K).
[15:43] <genii> Sounds like hd/inode corruption
[15:49] <yoink> genii: thanks, had a feeling that's what it was. :/
[15:52] <gheorghe> the ubuntu server installer automated a creation of a swap partition of 6 GB on a VDA of 7 GB. after that, it crached. gee i wonder why ... manually editing the partitions now ...
[16:15] <axisys> during raid build I see there is a question for ssd over provisioning optimation option.. should this be enabled or disabled? any sugeestion?
[16:15] <axisys> suggestion*
[16:35] <hehehe> :D
[16:35] <hehehe> gheorghe: did u ever run windows image on some linux vps? :)
[16:35] <hehehe> basically making  it windows flavor
[16:35] <hehehe> also I found new host
[16:35] <hehehe> http://lg.chi.mnx.io/#tests
[16:35] <hehehe> :)
[16:56] <gheorghe> hehehe: i am sure i wrote somewhere above how much i do NOT like windows. it is a good OS, but overcomplicated. this happens when you have only one coporation working on the same OS for 20 years. also, all the revolutionary ideeas will come on open source, so windows is just holding humanity back
[16:58] <Ussat> you all aware of this:  https://blog.qualys.com/securitylabs/2017/06/19/the-stack-clash
[16:59] <hehehe> gheorghe: well to a degree yes, however I use QQ and some other chinese apps
[16:59] <hehehe> I can run them on the phone but for privacy reasons I prefer separate server :) and they run on windows only
[16:59] <hehehe> no linux what so ever
[16:59] <hehehe> mostly tensent apps
[16:59] <hehehe> else yes I would not bother
[17:00] <hehehe> with open source - how to make money?
[17:00] <hehehe> thats also a question
[17:00] <Ussat> hehehe, I assume you are not going to start the same rant you just got booted from ##windows from
[17:01] <hehehe> which rant?
[17:01] <gheorghe> hehehe: ubuntu is making tons of money now with lxd openstack. it's like the first time in history they actually make money
[17:01] <hehehe> I said a fact
[17:01] <Ussat> its a generalisation...
[17:01] <hehehe> Ussat: cut rants
[17:02] <hehehe> u can use google and check
[17:02] <hehehe> stats
[17:02] <Ussat> ...
[17:02] <Ussat> because everything on the net is true
[17:02] <gheorghe> hehehe: you don't have to sell the software to get the money. you can sell support for that software... and it also helps the code get better over time because other companies will improve it, so you can guarantee quality.
[17:02] <hehehe> gheorghe: for example say ecommerce app developers they get some cash
[17:02] <hehehe> but if it was closed source they could get more
[17:03] <hehehe> I like open source for its transparency
[17:03] <hehehe> and yes nowdays many people distrust closed source
[17:03] <Ussat> hehehe, its not a all or nothing game, both open and closed has its merrits
[17:03] <Ussat> people distrust a lot of open also
[17:03] <hehehe> I think if there was a way to check closed source for backdoors yes it would help
[17:03] <Ussat> again, bth have their merrits
[17:04] <hehehe> support yes but some soft is so good it needs no support :)
[17:05] <hehehe> I am going to shop  if someone can post links on how to earn money with open source , would be nice
[17:05] <Ussat> do tell
[17:05] <jbicha> maybe y'all need a FAQ for this: https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/6hzm8j/are_there_any_plans_for_using_mariadb_as_default/
[17:05] <Ussat> I am not a RH fanbio (TBH I am not a fanboi of any OS) but RH seems to be doin well
[17:26] <gheorghe> hehehe "u can use google and check ... stats" what stats do you mean?
[17:29] <gheorghe> jbicha: i've been using only mariadb for some years now... since i found out what oracle did :D
[17:29]  * rbasak wonders what Oracle did
[17:32] <gheorghe> rbasak: MySQL was owned and sponsored by a single for-profit firm, the Swedish company MySQL AB, now owned by Oracle Corporation.[9] For proprietary use, several paid editions are available, and offer additional functionality.
[17:32] <gheorghe> from wikipedia
[17:33] <jbicha> that doesn't sound too bad ;)
[17:33] <nacc> gheorghe: so they bought MySQL AB?
[17:33] <rbasak> gheorghe: OK, so what did they do to MySQL, the Free Software project?
[17:34] <qman__> I assume they did what they do to every other free software project, which is stop all development
[17:34] <qman__> every other free software project they acquire*
[17:34] <rbasak> qman__: your assumption is flat out wrong. Development has continued actively.
[17:35] <nacc> qman__: FUD. please do research before making false statements.
[17:36]  * jbicha still uses VirtualBox :)
[17:36] <rbasak> qman__: see: MySQL 5.5, MySQL 5.6, MySQL 5.7 and the upcoming MySQL 8.0.
[17:45] <gheorghe> i understand that some companies want to buy open source and make it pay 2 play, but still using that software would mean funding such actions. that is why a lot of distros switched to mariadb... debian was kind of late on this, but than again debian is usually a very stable release
[17:46] <oerheks> 'companies want to buy open source'... ?
[17:47] <oerheks> name 1 please?
[17:47] <jbicha> gheorghe: you do realize that Canonical is a commercial company, too, right?
[17:50] <dpb1> the percona guys seems to really be happy with the job that oracle is doing, fwiw.
[17:50] <rbasak> MySQL isn't "pay 2 play".
[17:52] <sarnold> you can certainly download and use mysql entirely for free. you can make changes to it same as always.
[17:52] <sarnold> what you can't get is any kind of communication from anyone at oracle about anything. ever. ;) you get the CPUs published every few months to tell you very vaguely what they fixed two months ago.
[17:53] <rbasak> Debian sid still ships MySQL. It meets Debian's requirements of Free Software -ness.
[17:53] <sarnold> "unspecified issue affected availability. cvss score 7."
[17:53] <sarnold> how maria and percona can ever get anything done with an upstream like that is beyond me
[17:53] <nacc> ahasenack: nice work on the samba changes. I'm building locally and then will tag and upload them.
[17:54] <sarnold> but considering most people treat their database as a big binary blob it really doesn't change how many people use it day to day.
[17:58] <ahasenack> nacc: thx, I saw that there is a samba upload stuck in excuses, from 3 days ago
[17:58] <ahasenack> nacc: what happens when we upload now and that version is stuck there still?
[17:59] <nacc> ahasenack: well, yours will go on top and be the one stuck :)
[17:59] <ahasenack> nacc: stuck only if the test error happens, right?
[17:59] <nacc> ahasenack: looks to be a gvfs regression in a-p?
[17:59] <nacc> ahasenack: right
[17:59] <nacc> ahasenack: are yoa able to reproduce the a-p failure in gvfs?
[17:59] <ahasenack> haven't tried yet
[18:00] <ahasenack> I just saw it there
[18:00] <nacc> ahasenack: odd that it *only* fails on amd64 ...
[18:00] <nacc> mdeslaur: --^ ?
[18:00] <ahasenack> I don't know if it's a common brittle failure or not
[18:01] <nacc> ahasenack: it would appear to have passed with 0ubuntu1 but not 2ubuntu1. But there could be other things moving there, of course: http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/g/gvfs/artful/amd
[18:02] <ahasenack> it failed in teardown, curious
[18:04] <nacc> ahasenack: yeah, it might be a bad test case, in that the pid file might be already cleaned up (racy?)
[18:04] <jbicha> gvfs' autopkgtest is a bit flaky
[18:04] <ahasenack> nacc: can you import gvfs, or do we only import server packages?
[18:05] <nacc> ahasenack: i can import it, but you can also run the autopkgtest locally w/o the tree (just use the srcpkg name). I'll kick off the importer now
[18:05] <ahasenack> sure, I just got used to git ubuntu clone :)
[18:05] <nacc> ahasenack: :)
[18:05] <jbicha> I'll retry the samba autopkgtest…
[18:05] <ahasenack> jbicha: thanks
[18:06] <nacc> jbicha: thanks, you certainly would have more knowledge of gvfs than I :)
[18:11] <gheorghe> jbicha: i know canonical is a comercial company, but canonical made some great things for the world we live in. all of us need to eat, but it depends how you get there
[18:13] <jbicha> nacc: did you see that slangasek uploaded python-django 1.10 to artful?
[18:13] <nacc> jbicha: yeah, i interacted with him on it earlier
[18:14] <nacc> jbicha: will probably re-merge again with 1.11 once i've confirmed with jamespage
[18:15] <nacc> ahasenack: alright, my merge passed the build (for samba)
[18:17] <ahasenack> ok
[18:22] <mdeslaur> nacc ahasenack : not sure why that test is failing
[18:23] <nacc> mdeslaur: ack, it seems odd :)
[18:23] <mdeslaur> didn't have time to look at it yet, but only on amd64 is weird. perhaps mash the retry button?
[18:24] <nacc> mdeslaur: yeah i think jbicha has done that now, we'll see
[18:31] <jbicha> yeah, the gvfs autopkgtest doesn't pass 100% of the time
[18:32] <jbicha> but the nplan autopkgtests are annoying me now :|
[18:48] <hehehe> well if people can copy and all all code is open source
[18:48] <hehehe> it will advance stuff yet also money wont be there
[18:49] <hehehe> essentially then most programmers would have to code for free :D
[18:49] <hehehe> if they agre great
[18:49] <trippeh> ooh apache httpd is no longer considering http/2 as experimental
[18:49] <trippeh> go go go apache httpd http/2 in ubuntu ;)
[18:51] <hehehe> what is http2?
[18:51] <hehehe> :D
[18:51] <hehehe> I am using it but yet to check what is it
[18:54] <nacc> trippeh: it's on the todo for this cycle (already uploaded, needs a MIR for nghttp2)
[18:57] <ahasenack> jbicha: samba gvfs tests passed this time, nice
[19:07] <hehehe> https://www.vultr.com/faq/#oschoices
[19:07] <hehehe> awesome
[19:24] <gheorghe> yea, these guys are really cheap. 10 minutes of food cost more than 6 months of their service
[19:29] <hehehe> lol do u eat gold?
[19:29] <hehehe> they got a promo going for new customers
[19:29] <hehehe> matching 1st deposit up to 100usd 100%
[19:30] <hehehe> I am moving from do to them :D
[19:33] <sarnold> damn that's really cheap
[19:36] <hehehe> :)))
[19:37] <hehehe> sarnold: well hardware is cheap now too
[19:37] <gheorghe> hehehe i wouldn't dump do that easy. they are really stable. well, it depends what you really need... :D
[19:38] <hehehe> its already done
[19:38] <hehehe> all hosts are more less same
[19:39] <gheorghe> do they still use kvm to deliver that cheap or do they give you a container?
[19:41] <hehehe> :) I guess kvm
[19:42] <hehehe> ping 33.9 :D
[19:50] <hehehe_off> hmm using xrdp and password copy paste yet to work
[19:50] <hehehe_off> into login screen
[19:50] <hehehe_off> via remmina
[19:52] <hehehe_off> ok its working
[19:52] <hehehe_off> gheorghe: what kind of open source business apps you use?
[19:53] <hehehe_off> I tried some - many suck
[19:53] <hehehe_off> like sugar crm
[19:53] <hehehe_off> some are ok
[20:03] <gheorghe> hehehe_off, first what's up with the different nick? why is it "off" ?
[20:06] <gheorghe> 2nd, i work in a corporation which has almost everything on windows, except servers. i sadly don't use open source as much as I would like. i am however using linux for everything else :D
[21:00] <hehehe> off cause I was eating
[21:00] <hehehe> else people may think I ignore them
[21:00] <hehehe> nowdays people treat irc like forum lol
[21:01] <sarnold> just use /away eating
[21:01] <hehehe> hehe
[21:01] <hehehe> sarnold: any ideas how I can make windows iso on linux with fedora virtio drivers
[21:02] <hehehe> I used imgburn on windows here I got brasero
[21:02] <hehehe> brasero looks kinda basic
[21:02] <sarnold> I think in the past I've used dd to get an iso image from a cd
[21:03] <hehehe> https://www.vultr.com/docs/windows-custom-iso-with-virtio-drivers
[21:03] <hehehe> to do same on linux
[21:03] <hehehe> I need to make new iso :D from combined files
[21:05] <hehehe> well I can simply burn iso withj brasero and see
[21:06] <hehehe> but it wont allow to add boot image so no
[21:06] <hehehe> btw thanks to one dude I jumped to qemu today
[21:06] <hehehe> with virt manager its better than virtual box :)
[21:08] <Epx998> anyone work on a hp dl160 g10 yet?
[21:08] <hehehe> why
[21:09] <Epx998> it has a lame feature id like to disable, not a hp channel i know - bios posts in a tiny thumbnail view - cant see anything on the thing i dont have micro vision eyes
[21:09] <sarnold> crazy
[21:10] <sarnold> normally bioses look comically oversized..
[21:11] <Epx998> it has an overview of info i dont need, normal sized, then in the upper left, a thumbnail view of anything id actually want to see
[21:12] <sarnold> ahasenack: thanks for tackling the smb1 issue :)
[21:12] <ahasenack> sarnold: it's a start :)
[21:12] <ahasenack> sarnold: realistically, and I know it's early, I think we might be able to disable it on the server side. Not so sure on the client side
[21:13] <sarnold> ahasenack: yeah, ther'es just so many cruddy old devices out there..
[21:13] <ahasenack> yep
[21:13] <ahasenack> and on server people probably know what they are doing, so it's not a big deal if they have to change one line in smb.conf
[21:14] <ahasenack> but client/desktop is a different matter
[21:14] <ahasenack> in that regard
[21:14] <ahasenack> we'll see
[21:18] <hehehe> qemu stuck - ubuntu said server error pls restart
[21:18] <hehehe> however I am running windows install in qemu - if I restart what will happen to vm?
[21:18] <hehehe> clusterfuck or it will be able to pick up?
[21:41] <hehehe> lol
[21:42] <gheorghe> i am confused ... so your bare metal is ubuntu, you run qemu-(i suppose)KVM and your VM is windows ...
[21:42] <gheorghe> am i right?
[21:46] <Epx998> hmm ubuntu 12 doesnt have hp gen10, just 9. are udeb's still available for ub12?
[21:47] <oerheks> ubuntu 12 is dead, eol
[21:48] <Epx998> yeah i know - but some of our prod environment still runs it
[21:48] <Epx998> our android developers are mostly on 12 I think per some google requirement or something
[21:48] <nacc> Epx998: your prod environment runs an OS that no longer gets updates??
[21:48] <oerheks> giving support is against logical sense.
[21:48] <Epx998> i cannot deploy 16+ and only some servers can get ub14 - it sucks
[21:49] <Epx998> nacc: yes a problem, if I was allowed to run updates.
[21:49] <nacc> Epx998: so your production is double insecure?
[21:49] <Epx998> nacc: you have no idea.
[21:50] <Epx998> lets see how ub14 netboot does on this gen 10
[21:51] <gheorghe> oerheks, when you say it's EOL you make me wonder how come i remember the day I installed it the first time and how come so much time has passed :))
[21:54] <oerheks> checking auth log might help
[21:59] <Epx998> hmm ub12 works on the G10, but my preseed didnt know what to do with the drive, even though it was detected.
[22:15] <tomreyn> sounds like you should revolt a little
[22:16] <tomreyn> (or find a different employer)
[22:17] <sarnold> Epx998: fwiw if you're stuck on 12.04 LTS you may wish to investigate ubuntu advantage https://buy.ubuntu.com/  -- it isn't as comprehensive as the 14.04 LTS or 16.04 LTS security updates but might help you through a rough patch
[22:18] <Epx998> sarnold: we are moving to 14, mgt is just dragging their heals 'if it aint broke..' but has we buy newer hardware its becoming a problem.
[22:18] <sarnold> Epx998: also be sure to file bug reports from the newer stuff on anything that doesn't work. it might take some effort to get things fixed but should help more people than just you :)
[22:18] <sarnold> Epx998: yeah :/ that's why a lot of people still have WinXP in production.. heh.
[22:19] <Epx998> today its a random hp gen 10 they to try, last week it was huewei whatever servers
[22:19] <Epx998> ub12 on a g10 is working, i just need to sort out my partman expert recipe
[22:20] <Epx998> week before last it was supermicro "micro servers"
[22:21] <Epx998> makes getting a decent preceed hard when my mgr keeps changing chassis, drives, raid controllers
[22:23] <sarnold> on the plus side not many people have the chance to see so many different types of hardware in a short time :)
[22:24] <Epx998> sarnold: yeah very true, I was just thinking that.  I see the problem here, controller is creating sdb and sdc, recipe specifys sda, and when I dont set partman-auto disk - it asks, so hmm.
[22:24] <Epx998> lets see what partman-auto/init_automatically_partition does
[22:25] <sarnold> Epx998: ugh and of course those drive names can change at a whim.. rough choice, the /dev/disk/by-* names are stable but not predictable from install to install..
[22:32] <drab> sarnold: the by-id ones seem predictable in my limited experience
[22:33] <drab> since they use the type and serial number
[22:33] <drab> wwn-0x50015179xxxx has been consistent reinstall after reinstall
[22:33] <sarnold> it should be yes
[22:34] <sarnold> but that means having an intern to type those in to an installer script of some sort
[22:35] <hehehe_off> hate hate smokers
[22:35] <hehehe_off> they are so nasty
[22:35] <hehehe_off> :D
[22:35] <hehehe_off> sorry :D
[22:35] <hehehe_off> just someone smoked in a flat I lived
[22:47] <Epx998> ugh whomever wrote this ub12 unattended mixed preseed and kickstart configs
[23:00] <drab> I never quite understood why kickstart became a thing in ubuntu land
[23:00] <drab> what's it for?
[23:01] <Ussat> what ?
[23:01] <Ussat> what dont you uderstand ?
[23:01] <drab> I mean, what are people using kickstart for when preseeding ubuntu? I saw a bunch of blogs about it when I was figureing out unattended installations and I couldn't quite get why it was needed
[23:02] <drab> maybe I do simple enough stuff that I don't need it
[23:02] <Ussat> How many servers you have ?
[23:02] <drab> a few dozens
[23:03] <Ussat> you build them all one at a time ?
[23:03] <Ussat> manually ?
[23:04] <Ussat> How long that take ya ?
[23:04] <drab> no, tftp/preseed , preseed files are managed by ansible. there's also about 50 desktops in the mix that get rebuilt regularly
[23:05] <Ussat> so......what dont you unedrstand then ?
[23:05] <tarpman> drab: only cases I've seen kickstart used are people coming from redhat land who hadn't learned preseed yet (and the case for wanting to use the same tools everywhere is certainly valid)
[23:08] <drab> tarpman: oh, ok, that makes sense, I just kept getting the impression kickstart did something "more" and it was better to pair with preseed, but then I could never figure out what that was and why I'd want to use kickstart
[23:08] <drab> so I didn't, but I kept wondering
[23:08] <tarpman> not that I know of
[23:08]  * tarpman just some guy in IRC though
[23:08] <drab> heh
[23:09] <drab> it's fairly prevalent if you google for ubuntu unattended install so it seemed more than just an accident, but go figure
[23:09]  * drab is just another guy on IRC
[23:11] <sarnold> drab: folks who started with rh tend to find kickstart easier to understand than preseed
[23:11] <sarnold> drab: I for one never seem to find docs to help people with preseed when they ask questions, so I'm sympathetic tothe idea of wanting to use another tool entirely
[23:11] <drab> I thought that was true for just about anything :P
[23:11] <drab> my point :P
[23:12] <drab> it's one of the few tools I've had to actually look at the source code of
[23:12] <sarnold> did it help? :)
[23:12] <drab> of course it didn't, it just made me more confused
[23:14] <hehehe> hi
[23:14] <hehehe> who here used playonlinux?
[23:15] <hehehe> for some bizzare reason after install I am yet to find how to start it gui wise
[23:16] <sarnold> drab: drat :)
[23:16] <hehehe> sarnold: so lets write docs
[23:16] <hehehe> :D
[23:16] <hehehe> I can help a bit
[23:38] <drab> sarnold: drat indeed, story of my life, I even tried that as a nick but it was taken :P
[23:38] <sarnold> lol
[23:40] <drab> but since I got http images working and figured out I could run ssh inside /target I'm really happy with it
[23:40] <drab> the options now are endless and it's really zippy compared to tftp
[23:40] <drab> one day I'll have to bite the bullet and figure out EFI, but for now it
[23:40] <drab> 's ok