[00:00] <Bashing-om> LuMint: ^ and have you rebooted since re-installing the radeon driver ?
[00:01] <Lorne2017> genii  Yeah - ok cool.  So I have the file on a thumb drive...but I'm not familiar with cmd line mounting it..and finding it...and moving it...
[00:01] <Dreaman> http://imgur.com/a/cVmaL   genii: see
[00:02] <genii> Dreaman: Please stop spamming.
[00:02] <Dreaman> phahahahah
[00:03] <genii> Lorne2017: I'm trying to find the correct instructions. Please stand by
[00:03] <Lorne2017> genii THX!
[00:04] <genii> @comment 77093 Spam, warned, repeat known problem user
[00:05] <genii> Lorne2017: sudo nvidia-uninstall ...may work
[00:05] <LuMint> Bashing-om: yes, I have rebooted.
[00:06] <genii> Lorne2017: We will not be needing the file which you downloaded to the usb, that is a dead end for now.
[00:06] <LuMint> Bashing-om: okay, I'll reboot and post it.
[00:07] <genii> Lorne2017: Did: sudo nvidia-uninstall    do anything, or did it not find the command?
[00:08] <Lorne2017> genii OK - that command opened an Installer screen - I said "yes" - and I got ERROR Failed to run /usr/bin/nvidia-xconfig --restore-original0backup.  WARNING Unable to locate/open X config file.  ERROR Unable to restorre from original backup file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.nvidia-xconfig-original' (no such file or dir)
[00:09] <genii> Lorne2017: sudo touch /etc/X11/xorg.conf.nvidia-xconfig-original     ...and then try the command again please
[00:10] <Lorne2017> genii ...but I clicked OK - and now its saysing "Uninstallation of existing driver is complete"... (yay)
[00:10] <genii> Lorne2017: OK, good
[00:11] <genii> Lorne2017: So next, we will add the PPA for the lates trusted Ubuntu NVidia drivers with: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa
[00:11] <Lorne2017> genii (I haven't tried the sudi touch cmd yet...do I still need to?)
[00:11] <genii> Lorne2017: No, if it said they uninstalled that should be fine
[00:11] <Lorne2017> genii   OK cool.  awaiting further instructions... :)
[00:12] <gsilvapt> Anyone who uses Chrome here is experiencing any issues when updating the machine?
[00:12] <genii> Lorne2017: Now : sudo apt update
[00:12] <Lorne2017> genii ok done.  all packages are up to date
[00:12] <genii> Lorne2017: After that, we need to decide which driver version is appropriate for the card you have, and install that
[00:13] <gsilvapt> If i do apt update it freezes in Chrome line and ignores the rest
[00:14] <genii> Lorne2017: Do you know offhand the card? If not, run: sudo apt install lshw     and then: sudo lshw -C display
[00:14] <gsilvapt> And sbuild is also failing with a similar error, asking me to check my internet connection
[00:14] <Lorne2017> genii I went thru the selector at NVIDIA and they pointed me at the NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-375.66   (I'm using a Geforce 970 card if that helps)
[00:14] <genii> Good
[00:15] <Lorne2017> genii Yup!  that cool trick confirmed.. GeForce GTX 970
[00:15] <genii> Lorne2017: Sudo apt-get install nvidia-graphics-drivers-375
[00:15] <LuMint> Bashing-om: http://termbin.com/10n6
[00:15] <LuMint> here
[00:16] <Bashing-om> LuMint: reading .
[00:16] <LuMint> it's xorg.0.log, I figure that's the right one
[00:17] <Lorne2017> genii E:Unable to locate package nvidia-graphics-drivers-375
[00:18] <genii> Lorne2017: Did you do the: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa
[00:18] <Lorne2017> genii ...nope...(Sorry...must have missed that one)
[00:19] <genii> Lorne2017: So than after adding that ppa, again with: sudo apt update      ...and then the: sudo apt-get install nvidia-graphics-drivers-375
[00:20] <Bashing-om> LuMint: Sorry above my skill level . still trying to load nvidia and FGLRX on a 4.4 series kernel . I am out of ideas .
[00:20] <Lorne2017> genii  OK - added the ppa..looked ok... then the sudo apt update... looked good... then sudo-apt-get install... and got the unable to locate package again...
[00:20] <LuMint> Bashing-om: thanks anyway. I figure I'll try a fresh install.
[00:21] <Lorne2017> genii  (I'll try re-typing it...might always be a typo....)
[00:21] <genii> Bashing-om: It's not possible for them to coexist, they both want to overwrite the same opengl shared library with one compiled for their specific hardware
[00:22] <Lorne2017> genii  Nope.  Still saying E:Unable to locate package nvidia-graphics-drivers-375
[00:22] <genii> Lorne2017: The actual package name may be instead: nvidia-375
[00:22] <Bashing-om> genii: Yeah. some kind of messed up and I have no idea of how to straigten it up . lspci shows dual ATI cards .
[00:22] <Lorne2017> genii - YES!
[00:23] <genii> Bashing-om: That would be because you installed the fglrx driver last
[00:23] <gsilvapt> Anyone having issues with Google Chrome PPA?
[00:23] <gsilvapt> I can't update the system because it crashes there
[00:23] <genii> Bashing-om: I bashed my head on this problem for almost a year. Better to put 2 of the same in
[00:24] <Lorne2017> genii  OK that did a bunch of stuff :)   Next?
[00:24] <gsilvapt> s/there/in chrome source.
[00:24] <genii> Lorne2017: sudo sync
[00:24] <genii> Lorne2017: After that, a reboot would be in order
[00:24] <Lorne2017> genii  ok sweet!!   I'm rebooting
[00:27] <isene> I am missing loads of options in the gnome-control-center (running i3-wm on X, no Gnome session) - e.g. mouse and keyboard config is gone - how to get them showing?
[00:27] <genii> gsilvapt: If you have a 32bit install, google removed all the 32bit repositories and you're SOL. If you have a 64bit install, follow the instructions here to add [arch=amd64] to your googe repository file. https://askubuntu.com/questions/724093/no-more-updates-for-google-chrome-apt-get-update-error
[00:28] <genii> gsilvapt: This will make it ignore about the missing  32bit files in the repo
[00:28] <gsilvapt> genii, not sure if that is it because I removed the ppa, tried updating again and it froze in a ppa that is stored in Launchpad
[00:29] <gsilvapt> And that warning was over a year ago, it has worked flawlessly until now :\
[00:29] <genii> Googles repositories are not in launchpad
[00:30] <Lorne2017> genii - Awesome...machine is back....and I still have one issue (this is the one I was trying to fix when I screwed it before...)
[00:30] <gsilvapt> Yes, I said I removed Chrome and it froze in another package that is stored in Launchpad
[00:31] <Lorne2017> genii For some reason - my screen is zoomed into showing only a part of the Desktop...in DISPLAY setting, the "scale" option is below the bottom of the screen and I can't reach it to re-scale...
[00:32] <Lorne2017> genii Is there another way to rescale the visible desktop to fit my screen?
[00:32] <genii> Lorne2017: Ah. Sorry, someone else will need to guide you through the magnifier or accessibility settings to fix that in Ubuntu ( my primary desktop is Kubuntu instead)
[00:33] <genii> gsilvapt: Do you have a pastebin of what errors you're getting?
[00:33] <gsilvapt> I can share one
[00:33] <Lorne2017> genii thx tho... I keep thinking there must be a simple alt-+/- keyboard command to fix it (like in a browser)... but I can't find anything....
[00:33] <genii> gsilvapt: That would be helpful to us
[00:34] <genii> Lorne2017: Yes, most likely. But you'd need someone more familiar with your specific desktop and it's shortcuts than i am
[00:34] <gsilvapt> Sure, I understand. I believe this is a common error. If relevant, I had to delete /var/lib/sbuild/apt-keys to have sbuild working
[00:34] <gsilvapt> And I don't recall if it stopped working from that moment on but I think so.
[00:35] <gsilvapt> genii, https://paste.ubuntu.com/24895358/
[00:35] <Thoss> Hello, I performed a dist-upgrade on my 16.04.2 install yesterday and my PC will no longer boot into Unity today... get a "The system is running in low-graphics mode" with "Your screen, graphics card, input device settings could not be detected correctly..." I can log in via ctl+F1. Anybody else having this, or have advice? I don't know enough to provide details, but can follow directions...
[00:36] <Lorne2017> In using Ubuntu 17.04 and my screen is zoomed in too far...the Scale setting in Display is outside my screen - can anyone help me re-scale the screen?  Is there a simple keyboard shortcut?
[00:37] <gsilvapt> ctrl-shift +/- to increase/decrease respectively
[00:38] <Lorne2017> gsilvapt sorry - neither of those are doing anything
[00:38] <genii> gsilvapt: at commandline, to try: echo "Acquire::AllowInsecureRepositories=1" | sudo tee /etc/apt/apt.conf
[00:38] <gsilvapt> Syntax error: extra junk at the end of the file
[00:38] <gsilvapt> Was that expected?
[00:39] <genii> gsilvapt: Alternately, just: sudo nano /etc/apt/apt.conf    add the line: Acquire::AllowInsecureRepositories=1       then ctrl+x and then Y to save
[00:40] <gsilvapt> That line is already that
[00:40] <gsilvapt> s/that/there
[00:42] <genii> Odd.
[00:42] <genii> gsilvapt: So in this case it is giving warnings but you should still be able to install things from those repositories
[00:43] <gsilvapt> E: Syntax error /etc/apt/apt.conf:2: Extra junk at end of file
[00:43] <gsilvapt> That is the exact error
[00:43] <reisio> that error is great, as it legitimizes non-"Extra" _junk_ :p
[00:43] <igoo> I formatted a hard drive as ext4 and somehow turned into infinite 8gb partitions.
[00:43] <reisio> igoo: nice, sell it!
[00:43] <genii> gsilvapt: So the file may be corrupt.
[00:44] <igoo> reisio, nah im gonna push it to systemd's github.
[00:44] <gsilvapt> Hum
[00:44] <genii> gsilvapt: sudo rm /etc/apt/apt.conf
[00:44] <gsilvapt> how do I fix it then?
[00:44] <genii> gsilvapt: Then do the nano instructions again
[00:44] <gsilvapt> ah ok
[00:44] <reisio> igoo: heh
[00:44] <reisio> <3 you
[00:44] <reisio> as long as you mean it to be harmful to systemd, anyway :p
[00:45] <gsilvapt> Exact same error
[00:45] <igoo> reisio, Of course not, it's just a useful feature that an init system should have.
[00:45] <reisio> rofl <3
[00:45] <Jordan_U> igoo: Please explain how you "formatted" the hard drive, and pastebin any output of any command that demonstrates these infinite partitions.
[00:45] <genii> gsilvapt: Are you typing in or copy-paste what I had?
[00:45] <reisio> gsilvapt: there are a few online apt.conf re/generators out there
[00:46] <gsilvapt> genii, I tried both. First i wrote manually then I copy-pasted
[00:47] <gsilvapt> reisio, the problem is I know what I did wrong and I have no clue what is missing
[00:47] <genii> gsilvapt: Ah, apologies. I had the wrong syntax. Put instead Acquire::AllowInsecureRepositories "1";
[00:47] <genii> ( instead of =1)
[00:47] <igoo> Jordan_U, I just used parted to make a partition then i mkfs.ext4'd it and now whenever i mount it with caja it mounts an 8gb drive that doesn't exist.
[00:47] <gsilvapt> Now it freezes in the same package
[00:48] <gsilvapt> lets see the errors if they're the same...
[00:48] <Jordan_U> igoo: Try to explain what you're seeing rather than your interpretation of what you're seeing. Ideally, please post screenshots.
[00:48] <Jordan_U> !screenshot | igoo
[00:48] <Lorne2017> Using Ubuntu 17.04 and my screen is zoomed in too far...the Scale setting in Display is outside my screen - can anyone help me re-scale the screen?  Is there a simple keyboard shortcut?
[00:48] <reisio> gsilvapt: hard to parse, that statement
[00:48] <reisio> Lorne2017: xrandr -s 0
[00:49] <gsilvapt> Same errors, genii
[00:49] <reisio> Lorne2017: or DISPLAY=:0 xrandr -s 0, if you find yourself outside of X
[00:49] <igoo> Jordan_U, Oh it's not a problem yet, I'll just shred it and start over
[00:49] <gsilvapt> reisio, it's late, I'm tired and annoyed. Sorry. This is what I get after apt update: https://paste.ubuntu.com/24895358/
[00:49] <Bashing-om> Thoss: Graphics driver broke in the upgrade ? pastebin ' sudo lhw -C display ' as a place to start .
[00:50] <Lorne2017> reisio I got "can't open display" for the first one.... do I need to sudo service lightdm stop?
[00:50] <genii> gsilvapt: add also to that file, underneath on it's own line:
[00:50] <genii> gsilvapt: Binary::apt::Acquire::AllowInsecureRepositories "0";
[00:50] <genii> Sorry, 1, not 0
[00:50] <reisio> gsilvapt: hrmm, never even heard of 'Release'
[00:50] <gsilvapt> genii, same error
[00:51] <gsilvapt> reisio, these are defaults I haven't changed anything. This stopped working since last night...
[00:51] <TheLawyer> xenial response to both clicks and keyboard shortcuts is very slow!!! are there any suggestions to fix this? cpu and ram usages is ok
[00:51] <Thoss> Bashing-om: thanks, let me try and get that info... guess will be a manual type into pastebin. :) Could be driver... I have RX 460 using AMDGPU-PRO can't recall which version.
[00:52] <Lorne2017> reisio the DISPLAY...cmd seemed to go in fine... but when I F7'ed out...the display hasn't changed...
[00:52] <Bashing-om> Thoss: '  sudo lhw -C display | nc termbin.com 9999 ' .
[00:52] <genii> Hang on.
[00:53] <genii> gsilvapt: What does cat /etc/issue   report?
[00:53] <Thoss> Bashing-om: will try that, thanks.
[00:53] <reisio> Lorne2017: might be the window manager's zoom function, then
[00:53] <gsilvapt> genii: Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS \n \l
[00:53] <reisio> Lorne2017: try alt+mousewheel/two-finger-on-touchpad
[00:53] <reisio> Lorne2017: or s/alt/win/meta/ctrl/etc.
[00:54] <reisio> Lorne2017: or just esc
[00:54] <genii> So not mismatched sources/actual
[00:54] <reisio> Lorne2017: or specify your wm/DE (GNOME? Unity? Ordinary Ubuntu?)
[00:57] <Lorne2017> reisio as far as I know - ordinary ubuntu...
[00:59] <Lorne2017> reisio alt+mousewheel doesn't do anything... and I didnt understand what you meant by: s/alt/win/meta/ctrl/etc.
[00:59] <Thoss> Bashing-om: http://termbin.com/2dvc
[01:00] <reisio> Lorne2017: those keys, instead of alt
[01:01] <grantwu> I'm looking at https://github.com/zfsonlinux/zfs/wiki/Ubuntu-16.04-Root-on-ZFS... one of the last steps is to apt install ubuntu-desktop.
[01:01] <grantwu> is there an equivalent package for Ubuntu GNOME?
[01:02] <genii> grantwu: ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[01:02] <Bashing-om> Thoss: Well ! that do say the amdgpu driver is loaded . What does X think about the situation ? pastebin ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log ' and we have a read .
[01:02] <grantwu> genii: Ah, thanks!
[01:04] <fishcooker> where is the download link of ubuntu 17.10
[01:04] <Thoss> Bashing-om: thanks, working on xorg into.
[01:04] <reisio> fishcooker: the 10 actually stands for Octoboer
[01:04] <reisio> fishcooker: did you want a beta of 17.10?
[01:04] <fishcooker> sounds good reisio
[01:06] <reisio> fishcooker: probably want #ubuntu+1, then
[01:07] <Thoss> Bashing-om: http://termbin.com/28q1
[01:07] <Bashing-om> Thoss: reading - I be awhile .
[01:08] <Thoss> I understand, thanks!
[01:08] <Lorne2017> reisio OK tried all those ctl,alt,shift, keyboard scroller...nothing seems to change it...
[01:09] <reisio> Lorne2017: what's the output of 'xrandr' on its own?
[01:09] <reisio> Lorne2017: or DISPLAY=:0 xrandr, if not in X
[01:09] <reisio> Lorne2017: oh I'm sorry, you said scale
[01:10] <Lorne2017> genii  BTW:  I guess changing the permissions in my Desktop made all those icons disappear from the desktop (although they're still in the folder when I open it with Files)
[01:10] <reisio> Lorne2017: usually alt+space is available for toggling a window to move via arrow keys
[01:11] <Lorne2017> reisio xrandr output is "can't open display"
[01:14] <Lorne2017> reisio output from DISPLAY* cmd is: Screen 0: minimum 8x8, current 1600x900+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 443mmx250mm  1600x900  60.00*+
[01:15] <reisio> Lorne2017: 1600x900, that sound right?
[01:15] <reisio> Lorne2017: you've probably altered your dpi settings
[01:15] <SaltyCatFish> anyone know why this fstab line does work?  "/dev/sdb1 /home/ryan/Warehouse ext4 defaults 0 1"
[01:15] <reisio> SaltyCatFish: doesn't? Define 'work'
[01:16] <SaltyCatFish> reisio: Sudo mount -a does nothing and it doesnt mount on startup
[01:16] <SaltyCatFish> reisio: But it does exist, i can mount it with "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 ~/Warehouse
[01:16] <reisio> does lsblk -f show sdb1 ?
[01:16] <reisio> mmm
[01:17] <SaltyCatFish> it does
[01:17] <SaltyCatFish> weird right
[01:17] <SaltyCatFish> no heres the thing
[01:17] <reisio> unrelated: 0 1 is probably not what you want
[01:17] <SaltyCatFish> This is a second hard drive in a laptop.  I got one of those mounts that replaced dvd drive
[01:17] <SaltyCatFish> oh ok
[01:17] <reisio> (man fstab)
[01:17] <reisio> neat
[01:17] <reisio> ~/Warehouse, via sudo, however, would be root's ~/Warehouse
[01:18] <reisio> which probably has different perms
[01:18] <SaltyCatFish> ohhhhhhhhh
[01:18] <Lorne2017> reisio Yes - 16x9 is right... so yeah..dpi...poop...how do I fix that?
[01:18] <SaltyCatFish> but in fstab i have the absolute path
[01:18] <reisio> Lorne2017: this is ordinary Unity/Ubuntu?
[01:18] <Ben64> no, sudo ~/ is the user
[01:19] <SaltyCatFish> Ben64: Thats not the fstab command, im saying the sudo still lets me mount it while fstab does not
[01:19] <Bashing-om> Thoss: No failts there . X is happy  .. hummmm -- any hints in ' /var/log/gpu-manager.log ' ?
[01:19] <reisio> have my doubts about that, but I don't use sudo much in this way
[01:19] <Ben64> SaltyCatFish: fstab isn't a command
[01:19] <SaltyCatFish> Ben64: I get that
[01:19] <SaltyCatFish> Ben64: The command is in the file
[01:19] <Lorne2017> reisio yes.  (I'm not smart enough to make it out-of-the-ordinary) lol
[01:19] <reisio> he means 'mount' which utilizes fstab
[01:19] <SaltyCatFish> Ben64: That i posted already
[01:19] <SaltyCatFish> /dev/sdb1 /home/ryan/Warehouse ext4 defaults 0 1
[01:19] <SaltyCatFish> sorry
[01:19] <aquinnjr> howdy all :)
[01:20] <genii> sdb1 belongs to root
[01:20] <Ben64> SaltyCatFish: what happens if you do 'sudo mount -a'
[01:20] <reisio> Lorne2017: https://askubuntu.com/questions/440958/is-there-any-way-to-set-the-display-scaling-back-to-default-other-than-from-the
[01:20] <SaltyCatFish> Ben64: it does not mount
[01:21] <Thoss> I will check, in the meantime here is my /var/log/apt/history.log... start date: 2017-06-17 is basically the last thing I did. http://termbin.com/k272 I will go get the gpu-manager info. thx
[01:21] <SaltyCatFish> Ben64: But no errorws
[01:21] <Thoss> Bashing-om: see above, forgot to include your name.
[01:21] <Lorne2017> reisio - WOW - that sounds exactly like my problem...thx will read that now
[01:22] <Bashing-om> Thoss: K .
[01:22] <Ben64> SaltyCatFish: pastebin the outputs of "mount" and "cat /etc/fstab"
[01:22] <SaltyCatFish> k
[01:23] <SaltyCatFish> Ben64: Here is mount https://pastebin.com/mZA1i0ZN
[01:24] <SaltyCatFish> Ben64: Here is fstab https://pastebin.com/H1EfnS91
[01:25] <Thoss> Bashing-om: here is the gpu-manager info: http://termbin.com/sxdj
[01:25] <Ben64> SaltyCatFish: probably has something to do with the encrypted home
[01:25] <SaltyCatFish> Ben64: Ah ok
[01:25] <SaltyCatFish> Ben64: ty
[01:26] <Lorne2017> reisio that seemed to work!!!!
[01:26] <reisio> Lorne2017: good, good
[01:27] <SemiNus> hi
[01:27] <Lorne2017> reisio HALELUUJAAA!!!
[01:27] <genii> !helpersnack | reisio
[01:27] <SaltyCatFish> Ben64: That was it thanks!
[01:27] <Ben64> SaltyCatFish: cool
[01:28] <reisio> !helpersnack | the pope in peanut butter
[01:28]  * reisio rolls eyes
[01:28] <SemiNus> I'd like to ask for help!
[01:28] <SemiNus> I headed into a dependency problem
[01:28] <Lorne2017> reisio ...serious dude - you ROCK!  (and Jordan_U).  Been anxiety-ridden allweekend...
[01:29] <reisio> np man
[01:30] <SemiNus> https://dpaste.de/E60G/raw
[01:30] <Bashing-om> Thoss: Houstom, We have a problem ; " Kernel Module is not loaded " . what shows ' lsmod | grep amdgpu " . as we struggle to understand what is not going on as X is happy !
[01:35] <Thoss> Bashing-om: saw that, didn't like the sound of it. Here is lsmod info: http://termbin.com/kg3j
[01:38] <Bashing-om> Thoss: Well amfgpu is available . So why is it not loading ? Any hints in the .xsession-errors file in your home directory ?
[01:39] <Thoss> checking
[01:40] <gsilvapt> genii, is there a way to like, restore apt to defaults? I really need this working
[01:43] <genii> gsilvapt: amd64 architecture?
[01:43] <gsilvapt> yes
[01:44] <Thoss> Bashing-om: .xsession-errors info:  http://termbin.com/h48i
[01:45] <genii> gsilvapt: Well, you could try something like: wget http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/apt/apt_1.2.15ubuntu0.2_amd64.deb   then: sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite apt_1.2.15ubuntu0.2_amd64.deb
[01:45] <genii> gsilvapt: Not sure it will do much though.
[01:45] <gsilvapt> What is this package?
[01:46] <genii> gsilvapt: It is the package of apt itself
[01:46] <gsilvapt> So what, the only solution is formatting?
[01:46] <genii> What?
[01:47] <gsilvapt> How can I solve this? Formatting the machine again
[01:47] <gsilvapt> ?
[01:47] <oerheks> that wget line could well work yes
[01:47] <genii> gsilvapt: I have not suggested you reformat anything. I have suggested that you manually download the package file of apt and tell dpkg to install it over your current apt
[01:48] <gsilvapt> I know the difference. I'm asking because you said you don't think it won't work and because it seems we ran out of options to try
[01:48] <genii> gsilvapt: "gsilvapt: genii, is there a way to like, restore apt to defaults? I really need this working" me: "Well, you could try something like: wget http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/apt/apt_1.2.15ubuntu0.2_amd64.deb then: sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite apt_1.2.15ubuntu0.2_amd64.deb"
[01:49] <genii> gsilvapt: If that doesn't make something new happen, then yes, I'm currently fresh out of ideas.
[01:49] <gsilvapt> didn't solve the issue
[01:51] <gsilvapt> is it safe to run sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf ?
[01:52] <oerheks> apt to defaults .. what repos did you add? ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[01:52] <genii> gsilvapt: Not when apt update isn't currently weorking, thats what generates those lists
[01:53] <gsilvapt> oerheks, google-chrome.list       kubuntu-ninjas-ubuntu-dev-tools-xenial.list       spotify.list
[01:53] <genii> oerheks: Pastebin shows his issue is with the main archive.ubuntu.com and not a ppa
[01:54] <Bashing-om> Thoss: Ouch ! Desktop not starting . But I do not have the skills to know why or to find out the why/ Hope others here can pick up my slack .
[01:54] <genii> oerheks: His pastebin from before: https://paste.ubuntu.com/24895358/
[01:55] <gsilvapt> NNow I'm getting another error message, after installing apt deb package: Please run Package Manager from the right-click menu or apt-get in a terminal to see what is wrong. The error was: 'BrokenCount > 0'
[01:55] <gsilvapt> And then has a reference for missing dependencies...
[01:55] <genii> At least thats new
[01:55] <Thoss> Bashing-om: ok, thanks for your help... I am too ignorant, but still wondering why I have this libmircore and libmirclient stuff... installing... didn't think I was using mir things on 16.04
[01:56] <gsilvapt> And a message popped up: The package system is broken
[01:57] <oerheks> is your system mounted RO perhaps?
[01:57] <gsilvapt> Changing server source doesn't fix the issue...
[01:57] <gsilvapt> I don't know what that is. How can I check that?
[01:58] <genii> gsilvapt: Can you pastebin a list of files in /var/cache/apt
[01:58] <Bashing-om> Thoss: think the mir stuff is just the developers getting ready for the switching from unity . setting up .
[01:58] <gsilvapt> Whatever this is, is also causing the same issue in sbuild
[01:58] <genii> Can try the dpkg command on the apt version which is in there instead, if it hasn't been autocleaned
[01:58] <gsilvapt> genii, you mean ls /var/cache/apt ?
[01:58] <genii> gsilvapt: Yes
[01:59] <gsilvapt> google-chrome.list       kubuntu-ninjas-ubuntu-dev-tools-xenial.list       spotify.list
[01:59] <gsilvapt> Wait, wrong clipboard
[01:59] <gsilvapt> apt-file  archives  pkgcache.bin  srcpkgcache.bin
[02:01] <genii> I think if you ran sbuild in root for a different architecture instead of in a chroot that might explain the missing release files. Because it would be trying to fetch files for whatever architecture you specified at the time instead of the one you're using
[02:01] <genii> I'm definitely thinking sbuild is involved somehow in this now, anyhow
[02:02] <gsilvapt> Probably. I've been packaging software so I use sbuild to test package builds
[02:03] <gsilvapt> As I said before, I have deleted /var/lib/sbuild/apt-keys yesterday, and then it stopped working
[02:03] <gsilvapt> I needed to, otherwise sbuild wouldn't work
[02:06] <n0ise> I want to install a steam game on my fresly formatted hard drivebut I'm getting a disk write error, i chowned it for my user.
[02:07] <gsilvapt> genii, how can I try that thing of different architectures? last attempt before going off to bed
[02:08] <Jordan_U> To answer my previous question it appears that if you want to re-install Ubuntu preserving /home/ on a btrfs Ubuntu install (using the default Ubuntu subvolume configuration) you just have to use manual partitioning and set the partition containing your btrfs filesystem to be mounted at '/'. The installer will then actually mount the '@' subvolume of that filesystem as '/' and will mount the '@home'
[02:08] <Jordan_U> subvolume to /home/. Still installing, but I'll know for sure if it did as well as I had hoped when I reboot into my new re-install :)
[02:08] <n0ise> I'm able to install it anywhere else, just not on my other drive. Anyone know what's up?
[02:08] <genii> gsilvapt: I haven't used sbuild for many years, sorry
[02:09] <gsilvapt> i can try to build one of my packages in a different architecture, is that what you need?
[02:09] <genii> gsilvapt: Specify amd64 arch.
[02:11] <gsilvapt> My schroot was configured as amd64
[02:11] <gsilvapt> now I recall
[02:12] <gsilvapt> I'll have something interesting for you, probably
[02:12] <gsilvapt> 1 sec
[02:13] <gsilvapt> genii, https://paste.ubuntu.com/24896128/
[02:13] <gsilvapt> I did the command on line 1 and those are the update fails I was getting before
[02:21] <genii> gsilvapt: Exit chroot, please pastebin results of: apt-config dump
[02:22] <gsilvapt> I'm out of chroot, I only use it to test builds
[02:22] <gsilvapt> genii, https://paste.ubuntu.com/24896203/
[02:27] <genii> !info linux-image-generic xenial
[02:27] <genii> Hm
[02:31] <genii> gsilvapt: Nothing too unusual there, arch matches which is mostly what I was looking for. Although the kernel versions look later than stock xenial
[02:31] <genii> So nothing glaringly obvious
[02:33] <azizLIGHT> i switched my gpu from gtx 770 to gtx 1070 and im booted to gui now. do i have to do anything else to ensure max performance
[02:33] <genii> gsilvapt: At this point we probably could have reinstalled your system a couple times  by now in the time we've spent ;) But it's a curious puzzle as to why exactly it's doing this
[02:40] <n0ise> Is "/sbin/ldconfig.real: /usr/lib/nvidia-375/libEGL.so.1 is not a symbolic link" a common error and is there a fix?
[02:47] <genii> n0ise: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-375/+bug/1662860
[02:49] <n0ise> Yeah I saw, just making sure it's not been fixed yet.
[02:49] <n0ise> thanks genii.
[02:52] <genii> n0ise: I'd just recommend installing from the graphics-drivers ppa instead for now
[02:52] <n0ise> Does the symlink bug even matter?
[02:58] <genii> Since it makes he nvidia driver not install properly, yes
[02:59]  * genii notes "High" and "Confirmed" on the bug report
[02:59] <n0ise> It seems to be working for me.. am I missing something?
[03:00] <genii> Probably if you run something that requires using EGL it may do something unexpected
[03:01] <n0ise> alright well i'll just wait untill that happens, I don't use this computer for anything usefull anyways.
[03:01] <n0ise> Thanks man.
[03:12] <owen1_> any ideas why this command    xterm -hold -e "cd /tmp && ls && bash"    opens bash in my home folder instead of in /tmp?
[03:13] <Thoss> signing off for the night, I'll transfer my desktop issues to the ubuntu forums, thanks for the assistance.
[03:13] <nostalgiccloud> So
[03:14] <nostalgiccloud> I have a 5mb/s connection.
[03:14] <nostalgiccloud> I want to pull over 140gb of data from my server to my desktop
[03:14] <nostalgiccloud> What's the fastest way?
[03:14] <n0ise> floppy disks.
[03:14] <Jordan_U> For some reason it takes about as much time to login to Gnome Shell for me (Ubuntu Gnome 17.04, fresh install) as it does to boot the whole rest of the OS. What is the best way to troubleshoot and hopefully fix this?
[03:15] <nostalgiccloud> no serious.
[03:15] <n0ise> My guess would just be to use curl or something. everything besides p2p services would be about the same.
[03:16] <nostalgiccloud> but why.
[03:16] <nostalgiccloud> ; - ;
[03:16] <Jordan_U> nostalgiccloud: rsync with --compress
[03:17] <nostalgiccloud> Rysnc is piss slow.
[03:17] <nostalgiccloud> 500kbs/.
[03:20] <Jordan_U> nostalgiccloud: What is the download / upload limit on the internet connection for the server? What is the same for the Desktop?
[03:20] <nostalgiccloud> 250/250, 5/1
[03:21] <J3553> Can someone please help me reply to a vger.kernel.org majordomo mailing list? I have created an account, verified and been successful making a post. However, I cannot see how I can reply to that post? I do not receive an email of my post (I only see it from the online web archive), and I dont seem to get messages from others either.
[03:22] <Jordan_U> nostalgiccloud: So for some reason rsync isn't able to use your full download bandwidth. 1 theory is that it's limited because it's only one flow. Can you wget a file via http at better than 500 kbs?
[03:23] <nostalgiccloud> I need to test it
[03:23] <nostalgiccloud> I know rsync is slower because it's not paralellized, it also doing checksums on every file
[03:24] <Jordan_U> nostalgiccloud: Unless your local IO is absolutely abismal the checksumming should not be your bottleneck here.
[03:24] <nostalgiccloud> I'm checksumming 15gb+ files.
[03:25] <Jordan_U> nostalgiccloud: That's irrelevant. There's no way that checksumming files is as slow as 500kbs.
[03:29] <nostalgiccloud> SO
[03:29] <nostalgiccloud> I need to give everyone in world access to a directory.
[03:29] <Jordan_U> nostalgiccloud: If for some reason http is faster and you have enough free space then you could tar.xz all of the files (.xz will be better compressed than .gz) then unpack it all again once it's completed downloading.
[03:29] <nostalgiccloud> I've tried chmod --recursive ugo+rw
[03:30] <nostalgiccloud> chmod -R 0755 still wont let apache access the damn directory.
[03:32] <Jordan_U> nostalgiccloud: Don't try to share the directory directly via apache, it will be harder and less efficient. tar.xz it and be sure to use "wget --continue" so that you can continue the transfer where you left off if it gets interrupted.
[03:33] <nostalgiccloud> Jordan_U: I'm just testing to see if I can even saturate my pipe
[03:35] <nostalgiccloud> ~350kb/s
[03:38] <Jordan_U> nostalgiccloud: Can you download two files at once and get a greater total bandwidth?
[03:38] <nostalgiccloud> No idea, I'm busy tar'ing it
[03:39] <nostalgiccloud> I'll download it overnight
[03:39] <Jordan_U> nostalgiccloud: If so it would appear that your ISP is getting more traffic from your neighbors than it can handle and is throttling per flow rather than per household. That, or you have something else in your home using bandwidth that you should just stop so you can utilize your whole pipe for this.
[03:40] <ses1984> can memtest be run from a recent ubuntu live disk? it doesn't seem to be given as an option for 17.04
[03:40] <nostalgiccloud> Jordan_U: I can hit 3mb/s downloading
[03:40] <nostalgiccloud> Just not using rsnyc
[03:40] <nostalgiccloud> rsync*
[03:41] <nostalgiccloud> Amazing, I'm using 687% cpu :^)
[03:41] <ses1984> "Memtest is not available by default in grub on any UEFI booting machines which may explain your difficulty in finding it in the grub menu." wat
[03:41] <nostalgiccloud> ses1984: its clear
[03:41] <nostalgiccloud> If you're using GRUB for uefi it wont show there
[04:13] <jayjo> If I start a program that does't have a keyboard interrupt programmed in, how do I terminate it from the command line properly?
[04:17] <hipp> jayjo: try this https://askubuntu.com/questions/520107/how-to-kill-a-script-running-in-terminal-without-closing-terminal-ctrl-c-doe
[04:30] <Jonno_FTW> I have a problem with rhythmbox, I get this error: (rhythmbox:19637): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_css_provider_load_from_path: assertion 'path != NULL' failed
[04:30] <owen1_> any ideas why this command    xterm -hold -e "cd /tmp && ls && bash"    opens bash in my home folder instead of in /tmp?
[04:30] <Jonno_FTW> Rhythmbox:ERROR:rb-ext-db.c:364:impl_constructor: code should not be reached
[04:30] <Jonno_FTW> owen1_: you need to tell bash what dir you want to be in
[04:31] <owen1_> Jonno_FTW: interesting. i'll take a look at bash's manpage
[04:34] <owen1_> Jonno_FTW: the man page is a bit overwhelming ): would you mind pointing me to some links or other source of docs?
[04:38] <Jonno_FTW> google.com
[04:40] <Jonno_FTW> if you just want to start a shell in a specific folder you can change ~/.bashrc file
[04:41] <grantwu> When I run `bash` it opens in the current working directly
[04:41] <grantwu> Changing the bashrc is not the right way of going about this, I think.
[04:42] <grantwu> Typing "cd /tmp && ls && bash" directly into gnome-terminal on my system works as expected
[04:42] <owen1_> Jonno_FTW: (: i googled a lot. i am trying to open multiple terminals from a bash script. each terminal in a different path and i want to run a few comands inside. everything is working but i can't figure out how to keep the bash in the correct folder.
[04:42] <grantwu> Is there a reason why you need to open a terminal
[04:43] <grantwu> or a reason why you need to spawn a new shell
[04:43] <owen1_> grantwu: yeah. every morning whan i start my day i have a few terminals that i need to open. one is my server, another one is a different server etc.
[04:43] <owen1_> i still want the ability to be able to use those terminal windows.
[04:44] <owen1_> think of web development. you have a service in Go, a website that uses npm for local server etc.
[04:44] <grantwu> on my system, typing `xterm -hold -e "cd /tmp && ls && bash"` works as you would expect.
[04:44] <owen1_> let me try again.
[04:45] <owen1_> grantwu: and you find yourself inside /tmp ?
[04:45] <grantwu> perhaps you should try --noprofile --norc
[04:45] <grantwu> Maybe there is something weird going on there
[04:45] <owen1_> i am using i3 if it matters.
[04:45] <grantwu> yes, I find myself inside /tmp
[04:46] <owen1_> grantwu: this worked - xterm -hold -e "cd /tmp && ls && bash --noprofile --norc" &
[04:46] <grantwu> is there a reason why you need the "bash" at the end?  I'm not really an xterm user, but I would imagine that it should start bash by itself
[04:46] <grantwu> if it's your login shell
[04:46] <owen1_> grantwu: let me try without 'bash'
[04:46] <Jonno_FTW> the secret is not to turn your machine off at night
[04:47] <grantwu> owen1_: Welp, you will need to figure out what part of your dotfiles is causing this issue
[04:47] <grantwu> you can at least try --noprofile and --norc independently, might help you narrow it down
[04:47] <owen1_> grantwu: interesting
[04:47] <grantwu> alternatively, yeah, don't run bash, or don't turn off your computer xD
[04:47] <Jonno_FTW> owen1_: you can set terminals to turn on a login
[04:48] <Jonno_FTW> depends on your DWM tho
[04:48] <owen1_> i use i3 btw
[04:49] <Jonno_FTW> you can probably configure it to launch w/e you want on login
[04:55] <owen1_> i slowly narrow it down. this works: xterm -e "cd /tmp && ls; bash --norc" &
[04:55] <arunpyasi> hi guys, what may be the reason for " kernel panic-not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0) " ?
[04:58] <owen1_> i found the issue. i had two lines that make sure my i3 opens in the last pwd: PROMPT_COMMAND='pwd > "${HOME}/.cwd"' and [[ -f "${HOME}/.cwd" ]] && cd "$(< ${HOME}/.cwd)"
[04:59] <owen1_> the problem is, this is very useful feature for me..
[05:03] <grantwu> Well, you could rm ~/.cwd in your xterm script
[05:04] <owen1_> grantwu: true!
[05:07] <owen1_> grantwu: i can't. not sure why. it's always there even after i 'rm ~/.cmd'! something is re-creating it
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> arunpyasi: what ubuntu version are you trying to install
[05:11] <arunpyasi> lotuspsychje, its 16.04, I already had it installed and running fine.. but later, I got that error while boot but boots fine in the advanced option recovery mode..
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> arunpyasi: wich kernel makes that error?
[05:13] <owen1_> grantwu: this works! xterm -e "cd /tmp && ls && rm ~/.cwd; bash" &
[05:13] <owen1_> thanks
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic xenial | arunpyasi this one?
[05:23] <owen1_> this also works, and it's simpler: cd /tmp && ls && rm ~/.cwd && bash
[05:23] <grantwu> Uh... how exactly is it simpler
[05:26] <arunpyasi> lotuspsychje, yes, 4.4.0.79 I think.
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> arunpyasi: this happened after a recent update?
[05:27] <arunpyasi> lotuspsychje, I removed all the previous one and running the default that I got from linux-image-generic-lts-xenial
[05:27] <arunpyasi> lotuspsychje, may be the update was.. I don't know if it was due to update or not..
[05:27] <owen1_> grantwu: nevermind. it's not wroking. when i try     cd /tmp && ls && rm ~/.cwd && bash &   and than onother line, the second line never get executed.
[05:28] <arunpyasi> lotuspsychje, should I downgrade ?
[05:28] <grantwu> && means "run the following commands if the previous one had an exit code of 0"
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> arunpyasi: downgrade isnt possible, loading a previous kernel is, if you still have one?
[05:28] <grantwu> presumably, rm ~/.cwd will fail if ~/.cwd doesn't exist
[05:29] <grantwu> you had ; before, which runs the following commands anyways
[05:29] <owen1_> oh
[05:29] <grantwu> I'm not sure why you switched to ; and now switched back to &&
[05:29] <arunpyasi> lotuspsychje, no, I removed all
[05:29] <arunpyasi> lotuspsychje, I cannot install old kernel and use it ?
[05:29] <arunpyasi> and remove the new one ?
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> arunpyasi: can you still access grub recoverymode?
[05:30] <arunpyasi> lotuspsychje, yes I can acccess.
[05:30] <arunpyasi> lotuspsychje, infact, I can boot to the desktop via advanced option
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> arunpyasi: try boot, then update your system to latest?
[05:32] <arunpyasi> lotuspsychje, I did upgrade to the latest /
[05:32] <arunpyasi> lotuspsychje, but no changes
[05:32] <arunpyasi> I upgrade to the latest updates, upgraded kernel..
[05:33] <arunpyasi> did update-initramfs
[05:33] <arunpyasi> update-grub(2)
[05:38] <gigsfish_2815> Thats weird I've had that problem and 'update-initramfs' and 'update-grub' has worked well for me.
[05:40] <arunpyasi> gigsfish_2815, in which distro you had ? and in which kernel ?
[05:40] <arunpyasi> lotuspsychje, what shall I do ?
[05:41] <owen1_> grantwu: i have one issue - when i try to run a web server in those terminals, ctrl+c kills the process );
[05:42] <grantwu> Err, CTRL-C is supposed to look processes
[05:42] <grantwu> What exactly do you mean
[05:43] <owen1_> grantwu: for example: xterm -e "cd /home/oren/p/go/src/github.com/oren/doc-api/cmd/web && ./web && rm ~/.cwd; bash" &
[05:44] <owen1_> ./web is running an http Go server
[05:44] <grantwu> And which terminal do you send CTRL-C to? The new one?
[05:44] <owen1_> if i hit ctrl+c it destroys the terminal so i don't have access to it
[05:44] <owen1_> let me make sure
[05:45] <owen1_> yes
[05:45] <owen1_> the new one
[05:45] <owen1_> but i want to kill the go service. not the terminal itself
[05:47] <gigsfish_2815> Try CTRL-D
[05:47] <arunpyasi> gigsfish_2815, was that for me ?
[05:48] <gigsfish_2815> No, for owen1_ sorry, I will label my messages.
[05:48] <owen1_> ok
[05:48] <gigsfish_2815> Tell me if it works?
[05:48] <sweetheart> I installed Ubuntu and my power switch on my PSU is fried. Ubuntu owes me money
[05:48] <sweetheart> It's totally borked
[05:49] <gigsfish_2815> sweetheart: Oooh! Ouch.
[05:49] <owen1_> gigsfish_2815: this go server only response to ctrl+c
[05:49] <grantwu> I'm really confused as to what you are doing
[05:50] <gigsfish_2815> grantwu: owen1_ is trying to kill a go sever without killing the terminal process in ubuntu.
[05:50] <gigsfish_2815> Sorry server not sever
[05:51] <grantwu> Reading the provided command, ./web was run normally.  Therefore it's run as a foreground process
[05:51] <grantwu> the command should not even get to rm ~/.cwd; bash
[05:52] <gigsfish_2815> grantwu: Correct.
[05:52] <owen1_> oh. why do i have the rm after? that's my mistake. 1 sec
[05:52] <grantwu> Therefore, CTRL-C will terminate .web, and then because it presumably exited with nonzero return code, the remaining code will not run
[05:52] <grantwu> er, ./web
[05:53] <gigsfish_2815> owen1_: Try to run 'top' in a separate terminal session and dig for the go process command.
[05:53] <gigsfish_2815> It's tedious and it seems to be the only feasible solution.
[05:53] <grantwu> https://serverfault.com/questions/368054/run-an-interactive-bash-subshell-with-initial-commands-without-returning-to-the I think this is probably what you want?
[05:54] <grantwu> You can also do ps -eF | grep "go"
[05:54] <grantwu> or pkill
[05:54] <grantwu> or killall
[05:54] <gigsfish_2815> owen1_: Next time run the server with an & at the end to make the task background. (Ex: 'go ./web&')
[05:55] <grantwu> Yes, but in that case, you won't be able to kill it at all from the shell
[05:55] <grantwu> Because the job belongs to parent shell, not the one spawned by the bash at the end
[05:56] <arunpyasi> gigsfish_2815, any idea how I would fix mine issue ?
[05:56] <gigsfish_2815> arunpyasi: What is it?
[05:57] <owen1_> ok. i am having the same issue. here is the command: xterm -e "cd /tmp/web && rm ~/.cwd; ./web" &
[05:57] <grantwu> It appears that the & there as written applies to the xterm command
[05:57] <owen1_> ctrl+c kills the terminal instead of the service
[05:58] <owen1_> oh
[05:58] <grantwu> also, you lost the "bash" command
[05:58] <grantwu> Did you remove it intentionally?
[05:58] <owen1_> yeh
[05:58] <owen1_> i thought i don't need it anymore
[05:58] <grantwu> I believe you don't need it, yes
[05:59] <gigsfish_2815> owen1_: Try this xterm -e "cd /tmp/web && rm ~/.cwd; ./web&"
[05:59] <arunpyasi>  kernel panic-not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0)
[05:59] <arunpyasi> gigsfish_2815, ^^
[06:00] <owen1_> gigsfish_2815: the terminal is closes right away
[06:00] <gigsfish_2815> This is a tricky problem.
[06:00] <grantwu> Yes, the same thing is happening to me as well
[06:01] <grantwu> (I am using `sleep 100` to emulate a long running process)
[06:02] <grantwu> Have you tried using -hold?
[06:03] <grantwu> hrm, sleep doesn't seem to take well to being run in the background
[06:03] <gigsfish_2815> owen1_: Have you tried a script?
[06:03] <gigsfish_2815> Ex:
[06:03] <gigsfish_2815> #! /usr/bin/xterm
[06:03] <gigsfish_2815> cd /tmp/web
[06:03] <gigsfish_2815> rm ~/.cwd
[06:03] <gigsfish_2815> ./web&
[06:04] <grantwu> no, it does work in the background
[06:04] <owen1_> gigsfish_2815: no. trying now
[06:05] <gigsfish_2815> owen1_: You should get an output like '[1234]' and a prompt for the next command.
[06:05] <grantwu> actually, you mean need a "bash" at the end
[06:05] <gigsfish_2815> grantwu: he is running xterm
[06:06] <grantwu> Yes, I know that
[06:06] <gigsfish_2815> hence xterm -e "cd /tmp/web && rm ~/.cwd; ./web" &
[06:06] <gigsfish_2815> But I guess bash would give the same results
[06:06] <gigsfish_2815> It was just and example
[06:08] <grantwu> First of all, I don't think -e without -hold and without "bash" at the end will work, the background job will be terminated as xterm exits immediately
[06:08] <owen1_> [1]+  Running                 ./web &
[06:08] <donalsd> Hey guys, I am dual booting my PC with Windows 10 and Ubuntu 16.04
[06:08] <owen1_> i think it's running
[06:08] <owen1_> but i don't think i can access it
[06:09] <grantwu> Unless that was your desired behavior?
[06:09] <owen1_> grantwu: nope ):
[06:09] <owen1_> i want to be able to ctrl+c it if i need o
[06:09] <owen1_> if i need to
[06:09] <grantwu> also, I don't think you can use & in combination with &&
[06:09] <grantwu> & backgrounds jobs; when you glue things together with && you still have a single job
[06:10] <gigsfish_2815> That was the issue I was trying to correct
[06:10] <donalsd> Since Windows likes to take over the UEFI, I had to add the shimx64.efi in Windows to consider Ubuntu bootloader
[06:10] <gigsfish_2815> with the cript
[06:10] <gigsfish_2815> script sorry
[06:10] <donalsd> And then when I booted it said "Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported" with a crub command line
[06:10] <arunpyasi> lotuspsychje, you there ?
[06:10] <donalsd> How do I fix that?
[06:10] <donalsd> grub
[06:12] <grantwu> I think https://serverfault.com/questions/368054/run-an-interactive-bash-subshell-with-initial-commands-without-returning-to-the is really what you want.
[06:12] <gigsfish_2815> Go to bios settings and change the boot device order.
[06:12] <donalsd> gigsfish_2815: Is that for me?
[06:12] <gigsfish_2815> donalsd: to you
[06:12] <donalsd> The boot device order is fine. I am currently booted into Ubuntu by manually selecting in boot device order
[06:13] <grantwu> owen1_: I would do something like
[06:13] <donalsd> gigsfish_2815: There seems to be a problem with grub, I guesS?
[06:13] <grantwu> xterm -e "bash --init-file <(cd /tmp/web && rm ~/.cwd; ./web)"
[06:13] <gigsfish_2815> donalsd: Probably, try updating grub, there is not much you can do.
[06:14] <donalsd> gigsfish_2815: I tried boot-repair
[06:14] <grantwu> donalsd: maybe some combination of update-grub; grub-install is what you need?
[06:15] <grantwu> (be careful when you are running those commands)
[06:15] <donalsd> grantwu: I did boot-repair, should I do the update grub and grub install again?
[06:15] <gigsfish_2815> yes
[06:15] <arunpyasi> how do I get my issue fixed gigsfish_2815  ?
[06:16] <donalsd> gigsfish_2815: Running update-grub, yes?
[06:16] <grantwu> owen1_: It seems that when you use xterm -e, xterm will not automatically run bash, so you will need it automatically
[06:16] <grantwu> er, you will need to run it manually
[06:16] <gigsfish_2815> donalsd: yes.
[06:16] <gigsfish_2815> Confirm with grantwu
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> arunpyasi: to get your issue solved, re-ask it in channel plz
[06:16] <donalsd> grantwu: Should I run update-grub after doing boot-repair?
[06:17] <owen1_> grantwu: your command works but when i hit ctrl+c i find myself in my home
[06:17] <grantwu> owen1_: Presumably because I left out the part where you remove .cwd
[06:17] <grantwu> donalsd: I don't know
[06:17] <grantwu> I can't remotely diagnose your issue without a lot more information and I really need to go to sleep, sorry
[06:18] <donalsd> okay
[06:18] <gigsfish_2815> same goodnight...
[06:18] <gigsfish_2815> donalsd: be sure that the commands have terminated.
[06:18] <arunpyasi> hi guys, what may be the reason for " kernel panic-not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0) " ? lotuspsychje, its 16.04, I already had it installed and running fine.. but later, I got that error while boot but boots fine in the advanced option recovery mode..
[06:21] <grantwu> arunpyasi: Something is screwed up in your boot process; you probably want to try and verify step by step that everything is as it should be
[06:21] <grantwu> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1751574 Perhaps this thread could help you?
[06:23] <owen1_> grantwu: thanks for your help
[06:23] <arunpyasi> grantwu, I already tried everything in that page..
[06:28] <grantwu> arunpyasi: good luck
[06:29] <arunpyasi> grantwu, does a linux PC boot without linux-header package ?
[06:29] <arunpyasi> may be is it missing ?
[06:29] <grantwu> I have no clue
[06:30] <arunpyasi> hmm
[06:30] <arunpyasi> ok
[06:31] <arunpyasi> neither do I never got this issue unfixed with those tries.
[07:07] <Emmarof> Hello
[07:17] <erry> hi
[07:17] <erry> i'm trying to get the package that provides 'sp.h'
[07:17] <erry> i believe it is (or used to be) libspread1-dev
[07:18] <erry> but it can't find that
[07:22] <quadruple> erry, did you try apt-cache search?
[07:24] <akik> !info libspread1-dev trusty
[07:24] <akik> !info libspread1-dev precise
[07:28] <erry> akik: i'm on 14.04
[07:30] <Emmarof> I cannot find my wireless connection in my network tab
[07:30] <Emmarof> I have searched and tried everything on online forums but still to no avail
[07:37] <quadruple> I am connecting to my azure VM with x2go. A script gave me an error 'can't open DISPLAY' (echo $DISPLAY printed ':50'), so I unset DISPLAY based on a forum post. Now If I close x2go after starting the scirpt, it doesn't keep on running
[07:38] <Jordan_U> It turns out that my earlier problem with very slow GNOME Shell login was this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1596344
[07:51] <akik> erry: i don't know why that package has been dropped after 12.04
[07:52] <erry> akik: eh, nevermind, i compiled it
[07:54] <akik> quadruple: you should use the DISPLAY variable that x2go sets
[08:05] <quadruple> akik, any idea what I can do if the script stops with the 'can't open display' error, before I changed the display var?
[08:05] <akik> quadruple: first things first: can you now open a terminal in the x2go session?
[08:06] <akik> quadruple: it is possible that your script modifies the DISPLAY variable, which is not what you want. could you pastebin that script?
[08:07] <quadruple> yes. If i do this display=:50 again, because the script unsets display
[08:07] <akik> quadruple: ok. remove that unset
[08:10] <quadruple> akik, https://www.neuron.yale.edu/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1603&p=5742&hilit=can%27t+open+display#p5742
[08:10] <quadruple> this is not exactly my issue, but I got the same error msg at the end
[08:10] <akik> quadruple: you need to keep the DISPLAY variable's value the same that x2go sets it
[08:11] <onitlikesonic> Ji all, having this problem when installing an ubuntu 14.04 on esxi with scsi disks (was here last friday discussing about it but had to rush out) https://ibb.co/jCVstQ and https://ibb.co/j41bL5 (it works with IDE, however doesnt seem to work with scsi disks...)
[08:19] <akik> onitlikesonic: did you find a way to change the scsi controller type that you provide to the vm?
[08:19] <onitlikesonic> akik: yeah but none of them work
[08:20] <onitlikesonic> i have "LSI logic SAS", "LSI Logic Parallel" and "Vmware paravirtual"... none of which work
[08:23] <akik> onitlikesonic: how about the virtio_scsi that's on your list?
[08:24] <akik> onitlikesonic: i saw a blog post that vmware paravirtual would work http://www.johnborhek.com/vmware/vmware-vsphere/building-ubuntu-server-as-a-vm-on-esxi/
[08:26] <onitlikesonic> akik: i will try direct with cd install uploading it atm to the hypervisor instead of pxeboot... maybe its something there
[08:26] <isene> Someone here who can help me with a mouse/keyboard issue (libinput)?
[08:27] <akik> onitlikesonic: it also says lsi logic parallel would work
[08:33] <mircx1> help please
[08:33] <mircx1> how i get it /etc/iptables.conf
[08:33] <mircx1> i try make nano /etc/iptables.conf and i not see nothing
[08:46] <pfeerick> mircx1: maybe some context first? WHY are you trying to edit /etc/iptables.conf?
[08:46] <akik> mircx1: the thing is, there's no /etc/iptables.conf
[08:46] <mircx1> then how i edit it from nano or gedit text?
[08:46] <pfeerick> mircx1: you want to do some firewall rules? Maybe look at this -> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-a-firewall-using-iptables-on-ubuntu-14-04
[08:46] <onitlikesonic> akik: not sure if you would know but can it be that the netboot image does not contain the scsi drivers? http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=357078&sid=3b62c9d4d3a7bf7fa1da21e07d33255d#p357078 this guy seems to have a similar problem with debian
[08:47] <akik> onitlikesonic: not sure but you can unpack it and see for yourself
[08:47] <akik> onitlikesonic: i last used vmware server a long time ago
[08:48] <onitlikesonic> from the iso install seems to go fine :
[08:48] <onitlikesonic> :/
[08:48] <onitlikesonic> so guess the problem is really on what is being served by the pxeboot server
[08:49] <akik> onitlikesonic: you can recreate the initrd which probably holds those kernel modules
[08:49] <mircx1> preerick i not see there comamnds edit in iptables.conf
[08:49] <pfeerick> mircx1: since there is no /etc/iptables.conf file on ubuntu, or at least 16.04, you would a) have to create it and b) you'd need to use sudo to create / edit it anyway. i.e. sudo nano /etc/iptables.conf or gksudo gedit /etc/iptables.conf But why would you want to?
[08:50] <mircx1> i try to do but i no see nothing there
[08:50] <onitlikesonic> akik: yeah guess i will have to get my hands dirty on that... bit shit ... would expect this to come as default or atleast pull it from mirror straight from beginning
[08:51] <akik> onitlikesonic: did you use the default kernel+initrd from ubuntu on the pxe server?
[08:51] <onitlikesonic> tbh, i got no idea atm where i got those files from lol
[08:52] <onitlikesonic> they have been working for a couple of years now since we just build kvm vms
[08:52] <mircx1> pfeerick
[08:53] <onitlikesonic> akik: seems i got them from here according to docu http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/netboot.tar.gz
[08:54] <mircx1> please help
[08:54] <mircx1> ??? how i make it nano /etco/iptables.conf in ubuntu?
[08:55] <bazhang> mircx1, specify your issue,
[08:56] <bazhang> mircx1, use gufw instead
[08:56] <bazhang> mircx1, its the gui for ufw
[08:56] <bazhang> !info gufw | mircx1
[08:57] <isene> Is there a graphical frontend for libinput that is not dependent on me running a gnome or kde session?
[08:57] <bazhang> whats the end goal here isene
[08:58] <akik> onitlikesonic: the initrd is compressed with gzip but you can uncompress it and unpack it "gzip -d initrd.gz" "cpio -di < initrd"
[08:58] <bazhang> !find libinput
[08:59] <mircx1> what is this?
[08:59] <mircx1> this not very much a help
[08:59] <bazhang> mircx1, I just told you what it was
[08:59] <bazhang> mircx1, you are not giving any info at all to allow help
[08:59] <mircx1> i need to know please how i inside to gedit in iptables.conf
[08:59] <mircx1> i give very much a info
[09:00] <bazhang> mircx1, please stop repeating that
[09:00] <mircx1> then told to me how i edit from gedit in iptables
[09:00] <pfeerick> mircx1: I repeat "WHY DO YOU WANT TO EDIT /etc/iptables.conf?" - what is actually using it?
[09:00] <bazhang> mircx1, thats not how to set iptables
[09:01] <isene> bazhang: My end goal is a finely tuned touchpad - and I'd like to see the changes while I'm testing (mouse accel, double-tap speed etc)
[09:01] <bazhang> mircx1, so please stop asking for something that will NOT help you
[09:01] <mircx1> beacuse is very esay for me and i want to know
[09:02] <mircx1> bazhang if do you no want help your welcome i will try again to ask
[09:02] <bazhang> mircx1, if it's easy for you then go for it, and stop repeating here
[09:02] <mircx1> and i not stop to ask i want to know please how i gedit /etc/iptables.conf
[09:03] <bazhang> mircx1, #netfilter , this is not ubuntu specific at all
[09:03] <bazhang> mircx1, /join #netfilter
[09:04] <mircx1> this ubuntu need to be support and help i no need inside to there bazhang
[09:04] <mircx1> and this very simple a question and i see you dont have a information about gedit iptables
[09:04] <pfeerick> mircx1: 1)open terminal 2) gksudo gedit /etc/iptables.conf 3) you have your /etc/iptables.conf file open for edit 4) congratulations... it is an empty file because it doesn't exist!
[09:04] <bazhang> mircx1, is it helpful for you to get a channel in your native language, I think there is a communication barrier there
[09:05] <isene> bazhang: Need to run, will get back with questions later :-)
[09:05] <bazhang> sorry isene , got sidetracked
[09:06] <mircx1> pfeerick but when i open it i need see all options there all thing and this a point is no have
[09:07] <pfeerick> mircx1: gedit is just a text editor. if you want a graphical user interface, then install the package that bazhang told you to -> gufw
[09:08] <mircx1> i see this run in ubuntu new verion i talk about 14.04
[09:09] <pfeerick> mircx1: i.e. sudo apt install gufw, or if it is already installed, you can run it from the terminal as gufw
[09:10] <mircx1> ok pfeeick i install that what next?
[09:11] <mircx1> now i can see in iptables.conf the all information?
[09:11] <pfeerick> mircx1: open terminal, type gufw, now you have editor for iptable rules
[09:12] <mircx1> ok from text i cant?
[09:13] <bazhang> mircx1, ufw
[09:13] <bazhang> !info ufw | mircx1
[09:13] <bazhang> mircx1, gufw is the GUI graphical one
[09:14] <bazhang> mircx1, ufw is the CLI one
[09:14] <mircx1> ok
[09:14] <mircx1> thanks
[09:14] <bazhang> yes
[09:14] <bazhang> welcome
[09:37] <notzorbs> when setting up a script to be run by cron in ubuntu, does the script have to have 'sudo' in it? like 'sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade' ?
[09:37] <vlt> notzorbs: No, you install the cron job for the user you intend to run it.
[09:39] <notzorbs> vlt: so I have a su, named foo, if I run a script in /home/foo/bin/update.sh, I just set the chmod and add it to the crontab and you're golden?
[09:41]  * vlt did understand half of what notzorbs just said
[09:41] <notzorbs> I just want to make sure my system is always updated and upgraded.
[09:42] <vlt> notzorbs: There are already automated upgrade systems. No need for a hand made script.
[09:42] <notzorbs> vlt: such as?
[09:43] <gheorghe> apt install unattended-upgrades
[09:43] <hateball> notzorbs: either you use each users personal crontab, or you can use /etc/crontab (I prefer the latter for easy of overview)
[09:43] <hateball> notzorbs: And in crontab you can specify which user things gets run as
[09:44] <gheorghe> i usually just sudo su -; and after that crontab -e
[09:44] <hateball> But yeah, for updates there are scripts... but do they remove old kernels these days? That used to a reason I ran updates using cron instead
[09:44] <notzorbs> hateball: how do you specify which user things get run as in each users personal crontab ?
[09:44] <hateball> notzorbs: you... dont
[09:44] <hateball> thats why they are personal
[09:44] <vlt> notzorbs: unattended-upgrades
[09:45] <pfeerick> notzorbs: unattended-upgrades (didn't won't to be left out :-P)
[09:45] <notzorbs> heh
[09:45] <gheorghe> also, AFAIK unattended-upgrades does not reboot, so you still need a script to run with cron root to check if you have /var/run/reboot-required
[09:46] <hateball> Does unattended-upgrades remove old kernels now? Otherwise if you run a LVM setup with /boot on a small partition, that'll fill up
[09:46] <hateball> And that's just no fun for anyone
[09:52] <pfeerick> Some info to get notzorbs started : https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/automatic-updates.html
[09:53] <pfeerick> hateball: and according to this, it can be configured to do that, yes ;) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RemoveOldKernels#Configure_Unattended_Upgrades_to_Remove_Unneeded_Kernels_Automatically
[09:55] <frostschutz> remove old kernels or no, you don't want a too small /boot
[10:29] <Mrokii> Hello. A friend of mine has a laptop, "HP Compaq 15-s100ng". She installed Kubuntu on it, which seemed to work, but she experiences frequent crashes. I think it may have something to do with the Intel-Graphics-driver (though I can't confirm anything as I have no access to the Laptop at the moment). I wonder if it would be a good idea to try to replace the graphics-driver with something else, possibly the
[10:29] <Mrokii> standard driver, shipped with Kubuntu. Or would Nouveau be an option to try?
[10:35] <Mrokii> Though I think Nouveau is for nVidia-Cards only, as it seems.
[10:43] <hateball> Mrokii: nouveau is for nvidia, yes
[10:43] <hateball> Mrokii: Do you know if the laptop uses hybrid gpu?
[10:43] <akik> Mrokii: the graphics driver for intel graphics comes with the installation
[10:44] <hateball> Looking at the specs it seems intel only https://support.hp.com/us-en/product/compaq-15-s100-notebook-pc-series/7234969/model/7451051/document/c04471345
[10:44] <Mrokii> hateball: As far as I could find out, this model only has an intel graphics chip, no nVidia or anything else.
[10:45] <hateball> Mrokii: is she using 16.04 or 17.04? Plasma in 16.04 default very unstable
[10:45] <Mrokii> hateball: She uses 17.04.
[10:45] <hateball> Hmmm
[10:45] <squig> sort of a networking question, can I add a static route to a host when the gatway is on another network?
[10:45] <squig> I thought I could, dont know if I am fighting with my vpn software
[10:46] <hateball> Mrokii: Well I suppose one could try using one or both of mesa ppa (for driver) and kubuntu backports ppa for plasma updates
[10:46] <Mrokii> akik: Yes, I assumed that the intel driver would be installed. But as I found something on the net about crashes due to the intel-driver I thought that one possibility would be to deactivate it and use the standard driver. VESA or something.
[10:46] <Mrokii> MESA, yes.
[10:47] <akik> Mrokii: the intel graphics driver works fine
[10:47] <akik> Mrokii: is that a newer model notebook?
[10:47] <Mrokii> akik: As I said, it was only an assumption as there were no crashes specific to one app only. It sounds like a general problem.
[10:48] <Mrokii> hateball: I might try using a PPA for a later version of plasma, as soon as I can get my hands on the laptop.
[10:48] <hateball> Mrokii: Latest stable mesa can be found here https://launchpad.net/~paulo-miguel-dias/+archive/ubuntu/pkppa
[10:49] <Mrokii> akik: Not *that* new. I think from last year.
[10:49] <Mrokii> akik: She bought it new, maybe a year old (I'm sure not older than 2 years).
[10:50] <Mrokii> hateball: Thanks. I'll try that.
[10:50] <hateball> Mrokii: for plasma you'll want https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports
[10:50] <hateball> !ppa | as always this applies
[10:51] <Mrokii> hateball: Thanks, I know about PPAs. I'm using them frequently on my own computers.
[10:51] <hateball> :)
[10:52] <Mrokii> I wanted to keep her away from PPAs, as she isn't that much of an expert, but if it's needed for her to have a stable system, I'll try these.
[11:04] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:23] <andywork> hey can someone lend a hand on how to resolve this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24898792/
[11:23] <ace_me> how can I use cmd="date"; for i in $(seq 5); do $cmd; sleep 1; done with a  curl -X GET "http://s.com"... in place of date
[11:24] <ace_me> how to escape " in curl url address ?
[11:24] <andywork> I do an apt update, then apt upgrade
[11:25] <ace_me> cmd="curl -X GET "http://s.com""; for i in $(seq 5); do $cmd; sleep 1; ???
[11:26] <ace_me> how to fix the above please ?
[11:26] <BrokaToe> andywork: did you try the solution here --> https://askubuntu.com/questions/517857/dpkg-error-processing-package-linux-image-generic-configure-dependency-pro
[11:26] <akik> ace_me: it's probably cmd="curl -X GET \"http://s.com\"" or you could use single quotes ''
[11:28] <akik> ace_me: this is not ubuntu specific question anyhow
[11:29] <ace_me> ok :) I did it with for ((i=1;i<=3;i++)); do   curl -X; done
[11:30] <akik> ace_me: then why did you ask?
[11:31] <andywork> BrokaToe: Then I get this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24898804/
[11:36] <BrokaToe> andywork, which kernel are you currently running?
[11:37] <andywork> BrokaToe: 4.10.0-21-generic
[11:37] <gheorghe> did you reboot?
[11:38] <gheorghe> after the upgrade?
[11:39] <andywork> me? no
[11:40] <gheorghe> andywork what's the output of cat /var/run/reboot-required.pkgs
 cat: /var/run/reboot-required.pkgs: No such file or directory
[11:42] <gheorghe> and uname -a?
 Linux local 4.10.0-21-generic #23-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 28 16:14:22 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/LinuxLinux local 4.10.0-21-generic #23-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 28 16:14:22 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[11:45] <Fallenour> Ok so heres quite the issue
[11:45] <Fallenour> Mariadb requires root credentials in order to run the mysql_secure_installation
[11:45] <Fallenour> now I actually need the root credentials
[11:46] <Fallenour> or for root to actually have credentials, whichever
[11:47] <gheorghe> andywork i suppose /etc/issue is ubuntu 17.04?
[11:47] <Fallenour> wow...ubuntu, you are indeed black unicorn magic
[11:47] <Fallenour> o.o
[11:48] <andywork> gheorghe, it is
[11:48] <gheorghe> fallenour, mysql_secure_installation requires root credentials for all distributions :D
[11:50] <gheorghe> andywork, can you show df -h, or is that information to sensitive?
[11:52] <akik> Fallenour: ubuntu uses sudo for the root access. doesn't "sudo mysql_secure_installation" work for you?
[11:53] <ace_me> akik because I was trying to find a way to run and did not how to escape it as I said, then found another way
[11:54] <ace_me>  not know how *
[11:56] <andywork> gheorghe: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24898902/
[11:58] <Richard_Cavell> Hi, everyone.  I'm using 64-bit Ubuntu 16.04 LTS on my iMac!  Thanks for all your help the last 24 hours!!!
[11:59] <codecutter> wget -O - http://debian.neo4j.org/neotechnology.gpg.key | apt-key add -
[11:59] <codecutter> Cannot write to ‘-’ (Broken pipe).
[12:00] <codecutter> talk to me
[12:06] <akik> Richard_Cavell: which ati graphics module did you install?
[12:06] <codecutter> nvm
[12:07] <Richard_Cavell> akik: I switched from Debian to Ubuntu and now I am just using whatever installs out of the box
[12:08] <akik> Richard_Cavell: sudo lshw -c video | grep driver
[12:08] <codecutter> sudo echo 'deb http://debian.neo4j.org/repo stable/' > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/neo4j.list <-- permission denied
[12:09] <gheorghe> andywork: i can't figure this out. my only suggestion would be to revert to an older kernel and retry the update. if that doesn't work i would post all this info on https://askubuntu.com/ ... or maybe somebody here knows the issue
[12:09] <akik> codecutter: use "| sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/neo4j.list". you don't need sudo for echo
[12:10] <codecutter> what does the pipe do, here?
[12:10] <akik> codecutter: it pipes the input to tee which creates the file
[12:10] <Richard_Cavell> akik:        configuration: driver=radeon latency=0
[12:10] <codecutter> whats the diff between tee and echo?
[12:10] <Richard_Cavell> akik: Is that good?
[12:11] <akik> codecutter: i meant echo 'deb http://debian.neo4j.org/repo stable/' | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/neo4j.list
[12:11] <andywork> gheorghe: yes, I can stay a while - then post on the board
[12:11] <akik> Richard_Cavell: i don't know, is it? graphics work ok?
[12:13] <akik> Richard_Cavell: i learnt yesterday that if you want to use amdgpu-pro, you have to download it from amd
[12:13] <Richard_Cavell> akik: There's some tearing when I move the window around, which implies to me that it's using the CPU.  But maybe I'm wrong
[12:13] <codecutter> apt-get update not gives  GPG error: http://debian.neo4j.org/repo stable/ Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 26C95CF201182252
[12:14] <codecutter> akik: ^
[12:14] <codecutter> can I ignore this?
[12:15] <akik> codecutter: you need to add that key to apt "sudo apt-key add file.gpg"
[12:15] <andywork> gheorghe; thankyou so far!
[12:15] <gheorghe> andywork: i really didn't do much :D
[12:15] <codecutter> but i did before that line with this 'wget -O - http://debian.neo4j.org/neotechnology.gpg.key | apt-key add -'?
[12:16] <akik> codecutter: read the guide again
[12:16] <akik> codecutter: http://debian.neo4j.org/
[12:16] <codecutter> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-neo4j-on-an-ubuntu-vps
[12:16] <codecutter> i don't see '"sudo apt-key add file.gpg"'
[12:17] <codecutter> i'm ubuntu
[12:17] <codecutter> i'm on*
[12:17] <akik> codecutter: somebody make a bad copy/paste. read http://debian.neo4j.org/
[12:20] <_ng> Hi, on 16.04 is there a way to get a newer version of the libvirt package than 1.3.x?
[12:32] <isene> Is there a graphical frontend for libinput that is not dependent on me running a gnome or kde session? (bazhang)
[12:32] <isene> bazhang: My end goal is a finely tuned touchpad - and I'd like to see the changes while I'm testing (mouse accel, double-tap speed etc)
[12:41] <gebbione> hi folks, i have tried to install openvpn and made some changes to the networking because of this and now some of the internal connectivity is not working on my docker containers
[12:42] <gebbione> is there a good way to troubleshoot or to restore default?
[12:59] <gebbione> something in my firewall is blocking connectivity so if I do `sudo ufw disable` my application can connect
[12:59] <gebbione> if I enable it, then the application stops
[12:59] <gebbione> but I have no rules when i do ufw status
[12:59] <gebbione> what can i change to fix this?
[13:04] <vlt> gebbione: I don't know ufw.  What does the output of `iptables -nvL` look like?
[13:06] <gebbione> vlt, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24899189/
[13:16] <gebbione> vlt, any idea?
[13:21] <turneralex> Comrades - I’m having difficulty with SSE3 extensions on a fairly new (2011) AMD Operton 6140. Processor spec says it supports SSE3, lscpu belives otherwise; with it only supporting SSE, SSE2 and SSE4A (which is the most useless of the SSE*s). Please help as I’ve already removed 17% of the hair directly above my mons pubis over this
[13:23] <turneralex> Using 17.04 btw
[13:30] <mmkurd> where can i find a complete tutorial or guide for snaps?
[13:30] <scottjl> https://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/snappy
[13:33] <mmkurd> scottjl, that's the first place i checked, unfortunately that's not a complete guide and beginner friendly
[13:34] <scottjl> mmkurd: google "ubuntu snaps guide" tons of hits. maybe you'll find one more to your liking?
[13:35] <scottjl> guides are pretty person. some want more/less technical detail. pics/nopics.
[13:35] <scottjl> etc
[13:36] <mmkurd> scottjl, sure, i'll do that, i just wondered if there was a good guide, like "the python documentation" for python or "the java tutorial" for java
[13:38] <isene> Ubuntu 17.04 - On booting recovery mode and choosing networking, the network won't start (it complains about missing /etc/reolv.conf even though there is the usual symlink /etc/resov.conf -> ../run/resolvconf/resolv.conf). The network works just fine on normal boot. How to I get networking operational when I boot in recovery mode?
[13:38] <scottjl> mmkurd: sorry, but that's all i have for ya
[13:45] <BluesKaj> isene, try, sudo systemctl start systemd-networkd
[13:46] <isene> Oki
[13:46] <BluesKaj> isene, unless you're on 14.04
[13:46] <BluesKaj> isene, it should work on 17.04
[14:00] <gebbione> hi folks is ufw enabled by default on ubuntu
[14:00] <gebbione> ?
[14:02] <akik> gebbione: no
[14:04] <CarlFK> what is the apt command to dump the cache ...my  / is out of space
[14:05] <nchambers> gebbione: if you're using the image from ubuntu.com, it isn't enabled by default
[14:06] <gebbione> it is a physical install
[14:06] <gebbione> nchambers, it looks like the service is autostarted at the moment but i dont remember setting it up to autostart
[14:06] <nchambers> if you're using a modified image, it could be set to do that
[14:06] <minimec> CarlFK: only obsolete packages: "sudo apt autoremove && sudo apt autoclean" For the whole cache: "sudo apt clean"
[14:07] <gebbione> is it enabled by default on your machine? grep ^ENABLED /etc/ufw/ufw.conf
[14:08] <nchambers> I only use ubuntu on my ramnode servers, where it is not enabled by default
[14:09] <CarlFK> minimec: thanks
[14:11] <rajivmars> hi. i am usingh ubuntu 16.04 unity. why the memory consumption is so high. while doing some browsing in firefox, it takes almost 1.6 gb
[14:11] <rajivmars> is there any way to figure it out.
[14:11] <minimec> gebbione: On a pretty fresh and clean 16.04 installation it is installed and enabled by default. See "systemctl status ufw"
[14:14] <gronke> I'm running xubuntu. Often times when I open my laptop after it's been asleep, the wi-fi wont see any nearby networks. When I log-out and log back in, though, it works fine. Why is this happening?
[14:15] <glitsj16> rajivmars: if you're on firefox 54, you can check dom.ipc.processCount in about:config and try with a lower seting than the default 4
[14:16] <rajivmars> glitsj16: when not using any applicatio, 16.04 still eats almost 1 gb of memory.
[14:17] <rajivmars> sorry its "application"
[14:18] <glitsj16> rajivmars: have you tried using htop yet to get a detailed look at your resource usage? Hard to tell without more info..
[14:19] <rajivmars> ok i will tell u after see it
[14:19] <glitsj16> rajivmars: how much RAM does your system have?
[14:19] <rajivmars> 4 gb. but it shows only 3.5gb
[14:20] <rajivmars> i think the other 0.5 gb is reserved for something by default.
[14:20] <VaultTec> 1.5 gb usage for Firefox and system is normal.
[14:21] <VaultTec> Firefox usually runs on ~1gb RAM in my system.
[14:21] <glitsj16> rajivmars: that's quite normal behaviour, correct, linux does that.. does your system swap excessively?
[14:21] <VaultTec> Gnome and other related programs + kernel takes about 900mb
[14:22] <rajivmars> VaultTec, why it takes that much of memory? is there any way to make it less?
[14:22] <VaultTec> rajivmars, I guess not, you can switch to less demanding distros like Xubuntu or Lubuntu.
[14:22] <rajivmars> glitsj16: i have 3.7 gb swap
[14:22] <VaultTec> Xubuntu uses Xfce fo DE which usually runs on ~400mb
[14:23] <VaultTec> Unity and Gnome are heavy DE's.
[14:23] <rajivmars> VautTec, if thats normat then its ok. thanks for help.
[14:23] <rajivmars> glitsj16: thanks:)
[14:24] <glitsj16> rajivmars: try to look at it from the angle that unused memory is a waist.. by itself that shouldn't account for system lagging though
[14:24] <glitsj16> yw :)
[14:42] <anchnk> hi, how can i change lightdm background image under ubuntu 16.04 ?
[14:45] <leftyfb> anchnk: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM#Changing_the_Wallpaper
[14:47] <rob_> anchnk: https://github.com/roobert/dotfiles/blob/master/.zsh/robs/functions/misc.zsh#L196
[14:53] <anchnk> thx guys I am going to try it right now
[14:55] <Kaixxl> so, what are the advantages with gnome? over, Unity.
[14:58] <leftyfb> Kaixxl: personal preference and long term support
[14:58] <Kaixxl> leftyfb true, but there has to be things gnome does better and worse etc
[14:58] <berithpy> Hey guys! English isnt my first language and im looking for a monitor mode switching prompt like windows has when you press super+P
[14:59] <berithpy> i tried googling but i dont know if my wording is weird but i cant seem to find something similar
[14:59] <berithpy> does anyone know a program that does that?
[14:59] <rlz2n32> are you using a laptop?
[15:00] <berithpy> rlz2n32 yes
[15:01] <berithpy> the funcionality is there, it just doesnt tell me if its extending or duplicating etc
[15:02] <rlz2n32> i think it should extend. it does on mine
[15:24] <TheLawyer> is there a specific channel for apt-get related questions?
[15:25] <ikonia> just ask in here if it's to do with ubuntu's using apt-get
[15:28] <uebera||> Hi. Is there a way to tell apt(itude) to never overwrite a specific file even if a package wants to do so, but to ignore the resulting error?
[15:29] <scottjl> uebera||: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[15:29] <nacc> uebera||: the file being a configuration file?
[15:29] <uebera||> No, it's a modified shell script
[15:29] <nacc> uebera||: that's shipped by a package?
[15:30] <uebera||> The unmodified version is, yes.
[15:30] <TheLawyer> I used the command "sudo apt-get --purge remove evolution evolution-exchange evolution-plugins evolution-common evolution-webcal" and it ended downloading/installing a pile of other packages, while all I wanted is to uninstall evolution with all its dependencies. No additional downloads/installs are required
[15:30] <scottjl> pin the package and don't update it. you'd have no idea if an update would be compatible with your changes anyway
[15:30] <uebera||> nacc: I don't want to rebuild a local version of the package everytime.
[15:31] <TheLawyer> I'm not sure how manage such behavior of apt-get
[15:31] <ikonia> TheLawyer: thats probably from a pending install
[15:31] <ikonia> TheLawyer: if you remove something it won't download things, unless it's a replacement
[15:31] <nacc> uebera||: what scottjl said is relevant, but unless it's a config file, there's no way to tell apt (really dpkg) to prefer your file
[15:31] <TheLawyer> ikonia: no it's not, otherwise it would show withing "apt-get intsall -f" which I usually make
[15:32] <tgm4883> TheLawyer: You'd have to post the log. It's possible something else was depending on something provided by those packages that was also provided by another package
[15:32] <leftyfb> TheLawyer: can you post to pastebin the output showing what is installed when removing those packages?
[15:34] <ikonia> TheLawyer: poastebin the output (including the "apt-get" command onwards)
[15:35] <uebera||> scottjl: In this particular case, I do know that updates don't break something, it's about a check whether a port is in use or not (https://jira.mariadb.org/browse/MDEV-9903 -- never got picked up). Well, I guess I just install an apt hook for this...
[15:37] <nacc> uebera||: what version of ubuntu?
[15:38] <nacc> uebera||: oh nm, i see that got pushed to 10.2
[15:39] <TheLawyer> I could if the list of the command output lines on the terminal is possible to scroll up to beginning, this is all I got https://pastebin.com/caJvJhGk
[15:41] <donalsd> Anyone know how to completely remove the menubar off the terminal window permanently in Gnome?
[15:46] <glitsj16> donalsd: can't you set that somewhere in the prefs of gnome-terminal? I'm assuming that is the terminal app you're referring to?
[15:49] <donalsd> glitsj16: There's no permanent option. I can turn the menu off temporarily.
[15:49] <glitsj16> donalsd: Edit -> Profile Preferences -> Show menubar by default in new terminals is no longer available? It could be, I havn't used gnome-terminal for a long while..
[15:50] <glitsj16> wording might have changed, but I'd be surprised it no longer has that setting
[15:50] <donalsd> glitsj16: I have looked into Profile Preferences more times than I can count.
[15:50] <donalsd> It doesn't. I looked too hard.
[15:50] <glitsj16> donalsd: heh, i believe yoy
[15:51] <glitsj16> *you
[15:51] <donalsd> glitsj16: I like my terminal app. Don't want to change it, hate the menu.
[15:52] <xebra> hi, I need a partition for root (programs, etc.) and a partition for home (personal files, configurations, etc.). However, I also want full-disk encryption. If I have two partitions, do I have to enter the password two times for decryption? To avoid this, do I have to use LVM?
[15:52] <glitsj16> donalsd: there might still be a hidden conf for it in dconf
[15:52] <pavlos> glitsj16: Edit -> Profile Preferences -> Show menubar by default in new terminals.
[15:52] <rajivmars> is there anyway to access googledrive
[15:52] <rajivmars>  in ubuntu 16.04
[15:53] <glitsj16> pavlos: that's what I told donalsd, thanks for confirming
[15:53] <donalsd> pavlos: Can't find it. Is there a way I can update it somehow?
[15:53] <pavlos> glitsj16: sry
[15:54] <donalsd> glitsj16: http://imgur.com/a/pnyHs
[15:54] <glitsj16> pavlos: no problem, donalsd should still have that pref don't you think?
[15:55] <donalsd> glitsj16: Got it in dconf
[15:55] <glitsj16> donalsd: nice
[15:55] <donalsd> Finally.
[15:55] <glitsj16> :)
[15:55] <donalsd> I'm not sure, am I using an old terminal?
[15:56] <donalsd> glitsj16: Thanks, btw. dconf didn't even come up in my head. Looked way to hard at prefs.
[15:56] <donalsd> :)
[15:56] <glitsj16> donalsd: yeah that's just my old braincell that thought about dconf
[15:57] <TheLawyer> OK, enjoy the POASTEBIN
[15:58] <glitsj16> donalsd: you can check via 'apt-cache policy gnome-terminal' what versions of it are available to you .. if you update your Ubuntu as advised it should have the latest available for your version though
[15:59] <donalsd> Anyone got any amazon links to nice geeky minimal laptop skins? Got too many scratches on the back.
[16:00] <scottjl> donalsd: try https://www.decalgirl.com/
[16:00] <donalsd> glitsj16: Thanks, again! :D
[16:00] <glitsj16> donalsd: you're welcome
[16:01] <Budd> I often have DNS trouble when traveling. Since queries are bounced through localhost (dnsmasq?), tools like dig don't help much.
[16:01] <Budd> How can I get debug info on a test DNS query?
[16:01] <ppf> Budd: dig +trace?
[16:02] <Budd> ppf: that helps me test a server on the wider 'net, but doesn't tell me why dnsmasq fails to get the right answer.
[16:02] <Budd> For instance, I want to know what upstream server dnsmasq is using; whether it's returning a cached or new result, etc.
[16:03] <Budd> Lots of ISPs screw up DNS badly, especially AAAA records.
[16:03] <Kaixxl> don't use their dns servers
[16:04] <Budd> I try not to, but they intercept and spoof queries to real servers, and I haven't taken the time to figure out the encrypted alternatives.
[16:04] <ppf> you can probably consult the dnsmasq logfiles
[16:06] <Budd> One frequent symptom is querying a known-good AAAA records and getting NXDOMAIN.
[16:06] <ppf> dig +trace tells you which server says that
[16:06] <Kaixxl> I kinda like dnscrypt.org
[16:07] <jje> Budd: dnscrypt + opennic
[16:07] <Budd> ppf: it tells me the source address on the reply packet, which is not the same as the server (because spoofing).
[16:08] <akik> Budd: you can get the info with nmcli
[16:08] <Budd> don't know about nmcli; I'll look it up. Thanks,
[16:08] <ppf> Budd: well, that's your answer then
[16:08] <akik> Budd: if on 14.04: nmcli dev list | grep -i dns
[16:09] <akik> Budd: if on 16.04: first nmcli con show, then nmcli con show name | grep -i dns
[16:09] <Budd> akik: thanks! that looks like the step I need.
[16:10] <Budd> That and a law that allows me to collect $$$ from ISPs that send fraudulent packets.
[16:10] <ppf> fake news packets!
[16:11] <Budd> I'm an old fart. I like sysvinit and resolv.conf.
[16:11] <Budd> Young enough to adapt, but old enough to complain about it :)
[16:12] <ppf> you can still use resolv.conf, though
[16:12] <Budd> yeah, but network-manager makes it a lot more complicated.
[16:13] <ppf> no one forces you to use nm
[16:13] <Budd> yeah, but if I didn't use it, I couldn't complain about it.
[16:13] <ppf> :)
[16:13] <tgm4883> If you just want to set a static DNS entry, NM can do that
[16:40] <foist> How can I create a keyboard shortcut that will paste the contents of my clipboard, but append three ` characters to the beginning and end?
[16:42] <ioria> foist, system->settings->keyboad-> shortcut -> my  xsel (xclip) + sed script
[16:59] <foist> ioria: what do you enter in the `Command` field?
[17:00] <ioria> foist, the path
[17:00] <foist> To my function?
[17:00] <ioria> foist, to your script
[17:04] <foist> ioria: slack_paste.sh http://dpaste.com/1YKJ0GJ
[17:04] <foist> and then a path to that?
[17:04] <limbo_> Are there any tools for making a readonly filesystem from web links?
[17:05] <ioria> foist,  edit a script, if it works, call it from the custom shortcut
[17:07] <foist> ioria: it works when I call it from the shell
[17:07] <limbo_> call it?
[17:07] <limbo_> I don't think printf outputs text where the cursor currently is.
[17:08] <peyam> Hi, I have Bluej java editor. when compiling and running the console application no terminal windows pops out! anyone with advice?
[17:11] <ioria> foist, you need a 'display option' like  :  gnome-terminal -x sh -c ' printf "\`\`\`\n $(xsel) \n\`\`\`"; exec bash '
[17:13] <foist> ioria: what is the last `exec bash` for?
[17:14] <ioria> foist,  'stop the closing'
[17:14] <foist> What does that mean?
[17:15] <ioria> foist,  if you remove it, the terminal will close instantly
[17:15] <friendlyguy> hi there! i am running ubuntu 16.04.2 lts inside a hyper-v hosted vm. and i have issues with dynamic memory... i guess.
[17:16] <friendlyguy> the machine is swapping even though its barely above the minimum amount of memory i configured for the vm
[17:17] <foist> ioria: I don't want a terminal to open at all, just to paste the contents of my clipboard surrounded by three backticks.
[17:18] <ioria> foist,  paste where ?
[17:18] <foist> Wherever my cursor is.
[17:18] <ioria> foist,  in your current terminal ?
[17:18] <akik> friendlyguy: check that you are setting a limit on how much memory your vm can use
[17:18] <foist> Anywhere: slack, browser, email client.
[17:20] <ioria> foist,  pipe it again in the clipboard then
[17:31] <Tim_tim> hi :) i have a plymouthd error. how can i fix it?
[17:33] <Tim_tim> plymouth 0.9.2-3ubuntu13.1
[17:35] <frontrowalex> Question: is there a good reason to have UsePAM set to no on Ubuntu 16.04 servers these days or is enabling it pretty much a best practice at this point?
[17:47] <Richard_Cavell> Hello, everyone. Is there a Twitter client for Ubuntu that can minimize to the tray and stay running?  I don't like Anatine.
[17:50] <DJones> Richard_Cavell: I use corebird, I can minimise it, but won't update until its restored
[17:50] <Richard_Cavell> Yeah I have that installed now because it's the best one that I can see DJones
[17:51] <DJones> Richard_Cavell: Yeah, it has issues, but seems to be the best I've found
[17:51] <pavlos> Richard_Cavell: https://www.tecmint.com/best-linux-twitter-clients/
[17:51] <Richard_Cavell> Yeah I saw that too
[17:52] <Richard_Cavell> There was an official Twitter client.  Did they ever make a Linux version?
[17:52] <DJones> Richard_Cavell: No they didn't
[17:52] <leftyfb> Richard_Cavell: I use the google chrome tweetdeck app
[17:57] <foist> ioria: thanks, figured it out. Something like this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/280604/assign-hotkeys-to-paste-predefined-text
[18:06] <friendlyguy> akik: thanks for the hint
[18:07] <friendlyguy> looking better now
[18:10] <akik> friendlyguy: i had that problem. i wasn't limiting the dynamic memory
[18:10] <friendlyguy> yup
[18:10] <friendlyguy> had a laaaarge number in there
[18:10] <friendlyguy> thanks sharing
[18:10] <friendlyguy> did you ever experience the other way around?
[18:11] <akik> friendlyguy: no
[18:11] <friendlyguy> vm is on MAX but the os reports tons free?
[18:11] <timdotrb> Morning, all
[18:12] <akik> friendlyguy: i just noticed that a vm i though was using 2 gigs of ram, took 5
[18:12] <friendlyguy> i am looking at a vm right now. its at max memory (2gb) but os tells 1468MB unused
[18:12] <timdotrb> I’m trying to add a firewall rule to my web server running ubuntu 12.04 to block an IP address, simply with ufw deny from <ip> to any. I added the rule, but it’s not blocking the IP
[18:13] <nacc> timdotrb: you know 12.04 is eol, right?
[18:13] <timdotrb> nacc: Yes, it’s old code that requires an old version of Ubuntu
[18:14] <friendlyguy> should ubuntu be able to free up memory its not using?
[18:14] <minimec> df
[18:14] <friendlyguy> as hyper-v guest...
[18:15] <friendlyguy> i am using free to get numbers about memory, and it tells that 1,5gb are being wasted
[18:15] <nacc> friendlyguy: you know 'free' is not a good way to measure this, right?
[18:16] <nacc> friendlyguy: also what do you mean 'wasted'?
[18:16] <friendlyguy> nope
[18:16] <friendlyguy> the hypervisor blew the machines memory up to the max value (probably because the client requested it) but free tells that 1.5 gb are unused
[18:17] <friendlyguy> wasted== not available for other virtual machines even though the os does not need it (or at least this is what free tells me)
[18:18] <nacc> friendlyguy: are you talking about memory ballooning?
[18:18] <friendlyguy> yup
[18:18] <timdotrb> So no thoughts on ufw?
[18:18] <nacc> friendlyguy: how much memory is given to a VM is up to the hypervisor, not to the VM itself
[18:18] <nacc> friendlyguy: in a ballooning scenario
[18:18] <friendlyguy> okay
[18:19] <friendlyguy> but if the vm needs more ram from the hypervisor it must request it, right?
[18:20] <abetusk> I'm running Ubuntu 16.04.  At one point I set up some type of local network to make a wired connection to my raspberry pi and now my wired connection won't work for anything but.  I kind of forgot what I did.  Can someone point me in the right direction of where to look to try and reset the configuration?
[18:21] <leftyfb> abetusk: click your network manager icon in the top-right and click on edit connections. Find your wired/ethernet connection and change it's ipv4 settings to dhcp
[18:21] <pavlos> timdotrb: does sudo ufw status show the rule?
[18:22] <timdotrb> pavlos: Yes, it does
[18:22] <timdotrb> Anywhere                   DENY        <ip>
[18:23] <nacc> friendlyguy: well, that's the purpose of ballooning, yes
[18:23] <timdotrb> I also just tried specifically adding the command in iptables
[18:23] <friendlyguy> and it should work the other way around?
[18:23] <timdotrb> And the IP is still spamming my server with requests
[18:23] <nacc> friendlyguy: what is the other way around?
[18:24] <pavlos> timdotrb: sudo ufw reload ... are the other rules before that rule that could cancel it?
[18:24] <friendlyguy> like: i dont use memory region X any more, lovely hypervisor take it back?
[18:24] <nacc> friendlyguy: no, that's not how ballooning works
[18:24] <nacc> friendlyguy: the hypervisor has to take it back
[18:24] <timdotrb> pavlos: There is: 80/tcp                     ALLOW       Anywhere
[18:24] <friendlyguy> ah, okay
[18:24] <nacc> friendlyguy: and/or request the VM to free memory because the host is under pressure
[18:24] <timdotrb> pavlos: higher up on the list
[18:25] <leftyfb> friendlyguy: sudo iptables -I INPUT -s <ip> -j DROP
[18:25] <timdotrb> leftyfb: I did that.. Still getting the requests. Is there anything to restart or reload after adding an iptables command?
[18:25] <leftyfb> sorry, meant for pavlos
[18:25] <leftyfb> no
[18:25] <friendlyguy> almost, i am not trying to drop anything right now... i suppose its for timdotrb
[18:26] <leftyfb> friendlyguy: sudo iptables -A INPUT -s <ip> -j DROP
[18:26] <leftyfb> ugh
[18:26] <leftyfb> sorry
[18:26] <friendlyguy> :) :)
[18:26] <friendlyguy> no problem at all
[18:26] <leftyfb> timdotrb:  sudo iptables -A INPUT -s <ip> -j DROP
[18:26] <leftyfb> jugglin lots of things atm
[18:26] <timdotrb> Lol
[18:26] <leftyfb> timdotrb: if you do both -I and -A and it's not blocking, you got something seriously wrong
[18:28] <timdotrb> leftyfb: is that an L or an eye ( I )
[18:28] <pavlos> timdotrb: I just blocked my ip (.46) and could not see my pages, I guess reset and start over
[18:28] <friendlyguy> okay
[18:28] <leftyfb> I, not L or l or i
[18:29] <friendlyguy> for some reasons the os still reports "low memory" to the hypervisor
[18:29] <leftyfb> timdotrb: -I = insert -A = append
[18:29] <friendlyguy> its telling the hypervisor it needs 1945mb
[18:30] <friendlyguy> what da heck.. why? :)
[18:30] <friendlyguy> i dont get it
[18:30] <timdotrb> leftyfb: would the ufw rule to allow any to port 80 override it?
[18:30] <friendlyguy> i am going to get myself a coffee
[18:30] <leftyfb> timdotrb: I don't know. I don't bother with iptables wrappers
[18:31] <linux_user> I think I solved my problem from the other day!?!
[18:31] <timdotrb> leftyfb: the iptables rule is higher in the list when I do iptables -S as well
[18:32] <pavlos> timdotrb: rules are numbered so move the DENY at the top
[18:32] <leftyfb> pavlos: I had him enter -I and -A. it'll be at both ends
[18:33] <pavlos> leftyfb: ok
[18:33] <linux_user> its my understanding that "Rule #1 is: The Princess is always right, followed by Rule #2: when she is wrong, immediately see rule #1." no?
[18:33] <timdotrb> pavlos: It looks like that was the key
[18:34] <friendlyguy> nacc: you mentioned that free is the wrong utility, can you recommend something else?
[18:37] <pavlos> timdotrb: meaning the DENY had to be on top
[18:38] <nacc> friendlyguy: well, i mean, `free` is just a snapshot, it doesn't tell you anything about what the ballooning driver is doing
[18:38] <nacc> friendlyguy: also, you want your system to use all RAM it has
[18:41] <timdotrb> pavlos: Yup, I deleted the rule in ufw. Then did ufw insert 1 deny from <ip> to any
[18:41] <timdotrb> That did it
[18:42] <pavlos> timdotrb: great
[18:43] <friendlyguy> nacc: i guess you are referring to buffer/cache
[18:43] <nacc> friendlyguy: i don't know what you think i said was referring to that?
[18:44] <friendlyguy> nacc: the system should use all ram it has
[18:44] <nacc> friendlyguy: that is a generic statement, and has nothing to do with buffers or cache
[18:45] <nacc> friendlyguy: *specifically with
[18:45] <friendlyguy> in a generic way: i agree ;)
[18:45] <friendlyguy> right now i dont get why this vm takes 2gb of ram while its only using 500mb
[18:46] <friendlyguy> i have other ubuntu virtual machines on the same cluster which behave as expected. but this one *uh uh*
[19:01] <friendlyguy> okay, lowered the memory below 2 gigs... i kind of expected the system to swap... if it really needs the memory but: nope
[19:07] <CarlFK> I am running qemu over ssh in a gnome-term on ubuntu-desktop (.   I need qemu to get alt-f2, but instead I get the "run a command:" thing
[19:08] <CarlFK> which I never use, so I am ok disabling it forever
[19:39] <Rob_Jones> anyone ever had problems with linux doing this?
[19:39] <Rob_Jones> http://imgur.com/a/vdalo
[19:40] <Rob_Jones> just read topic so i will go there
[19:45] <davidfetter_ge> hi
[19:45] <davidfetter_ge> so i'm in a containerized environment without root access, which is fine as far as it goes. what i'd like to do is install a .deb from a non-default apt repo as the user
[19:46] <davidfetter_ge> I've been doing some hacky stuff that involves duplicating the latest-version logic, but it's hacky
[19:46] <davidfetter_ge> how do i apt-get download as non-root from a non-default apt repo?
[19:47] <leftyfb> davidfetter_ge: you don't without root/apt privileges
[19:47] <CarlFK> davidfetter_ge: wget if all you want to do is dl
[19:48] <davidfetter_ge> i was hoping there were ways to tell apt-get which file to look in for repos
[19:48] <Dexx1_> I just ran sudo apt-get autoremove linux-image-3.19.0-49-generic in an attempt to free space in my /boot but now I am getting these errors: https://pastebin.com/raw/cJHSEGRr. Did I break something? Also, how can I free space in boot? It has 0KB space left :'( and I get warnings all day
[19:49] <davidfetter_ge> leftyfb, it definitely won't install without root, but once i have the .deb, i can do the usual hackery with ar x, etc., and install it locally
[19:49] <leftyfb> davidfetter_ge: whet
[19:49] <davidfetter_ge> of course if there's something apt-get could do to install with a non-default install directory, that'd be even better
[19:49] <leftyfb> davidfetter_ge: wget
[19:50] <davidfetter_ge> apt-get has machinery i'm not at all sure i've duplicated for getting the latest minor version
[19:51] <CarlFK> davidfetter_ge: apt source wget or your fav package name
[19:52] <CarlFK> davidfetter_ge: your ideas scare me ;)
[19:52] <davidfetter_ge> that would involve putting the entire dev toolchain on this container :P
[19:52] <davidfetter_ge> CarlFK, i'm trying to operate within the constraints of my environment and provide a good user experience at the same time. this leads me to odd places.
[19:54] <davidfetter_ge> i thought there were arguments one could pass to apt-get that told about the configuration files it consults
[19:57] <friendlyguy> is /proc/meminfo the value of "Active(file)" == htop memory usage or free -m values?
[20:00] <friendlyguy> ... probably not
[20:00] <friendlyguy> there is some more math going on in between
[20:25] <Dwarf> Good day, I'm having some trouble installing zfs-dkms on arm64 running ubuntu 16.04, was hoping you could help me with it. It gives the following error during the build: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/ddd510aacc0adf3f8544d85bf8302746
[20:27] <mdrSlacker> hi...i need some help...im trying extract a zip to a paste, but im getting no permssion! can anyone help?
[20:27] <mdrSlacker> ive got an error extracting the file
[20:31] <Dexx1_> I just ran sudo apt-get autoremove linux-image-3.19.0-49-generic in an attempt to free space in my /boot but now I am getting these errors: https://pastebin.com/raw/cJHSEGRr. Did I break something? Also, how can I free space in boot? It has 0KB space left :'( and I get warnings all day
[20:34] <mdrSlacker> im getting error extracting zip file o ubuntu...help please
[20:42] <glitsj16> Dexx1_: have you tried purging that linux image without adding autoremove yet?
[20:42] <nacc> Dexx1_: the problem is you need space in order for other stuff to finish
[20:42] <zuiss1>  if i create a linked snapshot and make some changes in that snapshot, how can i integrate them into the linked base (so that i can delete the snapshot and make the changes permanent in the main VM)
[20:42] <zuiss1> (virtualbox)
[20:46] <Dexter_F> hi
[20:46] <Dexter_F> got an external monitor on a laptop on hdmi. fine. switch off, switch on, all well. screen config stays. put  hdmi multiswitch in and switch "away", the laptop *loses* the external and merges all in one. one guy suggested to add EDID to xorg.conf but I don't see why. is there something to it?
[20:46] <Dexter_F> if not: what else might help?
[20:49] <leftyfb> Dexter_F: when you switch away, your laptop thinks you unplugged the monitor and will reset back to only the native display settings since that's all it sees at that point
[20:54] <Dexter_F> leftyfb, can I tell it "keep pumping out data out of that port no matter what"?
[20:54] <leftyfb> Dexter_F: you would have to tell your hdmi multiswitch to do that
[20:57] <Dexter_F> leftyfb, which requires a somewhat more sophisticated device than a 20 bucks china box I guess
[20:57] <Dexter_F> like a proper kvm switch.
[20:58] <leftyfb> yep
[20:58] <Dexter_F> which for 4 inputs on 2 monitors probably costs an arm and a leg. oh well. how come the monitor does not go out when I switch it off?
[20:58] <Dexter_F> uh, I mean, why doesn't it leave the config then?
[20:59] <Dexter_F> even when I throw its main switch? I would have understood how ihe standby feeds a signal to hdmi, but when physically powered off with the I/O?
[21:05] <c|oneman> can I preview do-release-upgrade for problems? I keep borking my system because it doesn't have a libc6 version compatible with kernel 3.0
[21:06] <nacc> c|oneman: 3.0??
[21:07] <nacc> c|oneman: that's not an ubuntu-shipped kernel.
[21:08] <oerheks> there is no dry-run in do-release-upgrade iirc
[21:09] <nacc> i have no idea how well it works, but there is -s (sandbox) that uses a overlay to test it
[21:10] <oerheks> ah yes, indeed http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/zesty/man8/do-release-upgrade.8.html
[21:12] <c|oneman> nacc: i guess not
[21:13] <nacc> c|oneman: you guess not what?
[21:13] <workisfun> how can I make it so that click an icon on the taskbar also minimizes that program?
[21:13] <workisfun> launcher*
[21:13] <c|oneman> cinnamon or mate has that
[21:14] <davidfetter_ge> where do i find a list of all the possible apt-get options? the man page doesn't appear to contain them
[21:14] <nacc> c|oneman: well, cinnamon is a desktop, not a distribution
[21:14] <nacc> c|oneman: did you mean mint? mate is based on ubuntu
[21:15] <oerheks>  The APT User's guide is in /usr/share/doc/apt-doc/
[21:15] <nacc> davidfetter_ge: such as? e.g., the apt:: stuff is not in the apt-get manpage
[21:15] <c|oneman> nacc: I meant its possible the kernel did not come from ubuntu on this little arm pc
[21:16] <nacc> c|oneman: ... and yet you are asking in the ubuntu channel?
[21:16] <davidfetter_ge> nacc, so i want to install things as non-root from an non-default repo to a non-default location, and no, i don't have any flexibility about changing those parameters
[21:16] <c|oneman> because it's stull ubuntu
[21:16] <c|oneman> still*
[21:16] <c|oneman> Welcome to Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS (GNU/Linux 3.0.36+ armv7l)
[21:16] <nacc> c|oneman: no, it's not. that kernel is not an ubuntu kernel, who knows what else is not ubuntu on that system.
[21:16] <oerheks> c|oneman, sounds like you have a custom config, what ubuntu version is this? 12.04?
[21:16] <davidfetter_ge> a non-default repo*
[21:17] <oerheks> oh, 12.04 is dead, you should have upgraded months ago
[21:17] <c|oneman> this is what I'm doing.
[21:17]  * davidfetter_ge reads the output of apt-config dump and is somewhat enlightened
[21:17] <nacc> and 12.04.4 itself eol'd in aug 2014
[21:18] <oerheks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RaspberryPi
[21:22] <oerheks> :-)
[21:22] <Elec_A> Hi, :~$ ${hostname} returns nothing. it should right ?
[21:23] <nacc> Elec_A: no, unless you set that variable
[21:23] <nacc> Elec_A: do you mean $(hostname) ?
[21:24] <Elec_A> nacc: Right! Thank you.
[21:39] <jollylol> hello people
[21:40] <jollylol> can anyone tell me how to use ! in a string in terminal. Trying to convert a sting into sha1 and keeps giving me output errors
[21:41] <nacc> jollylol: give an example and the exact error in a pastebin
[21:42] <jollylol> nacc: !afewletters! : event not found
[21:42] <jollylol> ^^basically
[21:42] <nacc> jollylol: that's not a command
[21:43] <pavlos> jollylol: echo -n bob | sha1sum
[21:43] <nacc> jollylol: not 'basically'. give an exact example and output
[21:44] <glitsj16> jollylol: you might need to escape the '!'
[21:46] <jollylol> https://pastebin.com/7TtUm7z5 <- here is what im trying to do. Cant seem to figure out how to escape the !'s (i am a newb and trying to learn! :D )
[21:47] <nacc> jollylol: yhou have to tell bash it's a string
[21:47] <nacc> jollylol: ' before and after
[21:47] <nacc> jollylol: and ' instead of " so that the shell doesn't interpret the string
[21:48] <nacc> jollylol: so you would do `echo -n 'some!letters!' | sha1sum`
[21:48] <glitsj16> jollylol: use \!
[21:49] <potatoes_> how would I go about resetting someones password in ubuntu after the password has aged? Is there a way I can reset it?
[21:49] <potatoes_> It's getting in the way of automation as the AMI we use is asking to change the password for the default ubuntu user every time we start up.
[21:51] <tomreyn> potatoes_: root can run 'passwd username' to change the password of user 'username'
[21:51] <tomreyn> potatoes_: but you'd probably also need to handle password expiry, using the chage command
[21:52] <potatoes_> tomreyn: we tried doing that, problem is we realize root can do it but that gets in the way of automation we jus want to re-age or something similar to:
[21:52] <tomreyn> start with 'chage username' (replacing 'username' by the name of the very user you are trying to modify)
[21:52] <tomreyn> sorry, chage -l username
[21:53] <potatoes_> tomreyn: we've tried: /bin/chage -d $(date +%Y-%m-%d) cloud-user
[21:53] <potatoes_> tomreyn: but that doesn't seem to work
[21:54] <tomreyn> potatoes_: are you trying to remove aging for this account, or just to prolong its expiry period?
[21:55] <DynV> I like gnome, is that a good enough reason to get Ubuntu MATE? Are there other consideration than just getting Ubuntu then trying to make it run gnome? perhaps other derivative/fork would be better?
[21:55] <jollylol> nacc: thanks a lot for your help!
[21:55] <tomreyn> potatoes_: it would probably also help to show 'chage -l cloud-user' (on a pastebin)
[21:56] <potatoes_> tomreyn: either would be acceptable assuming it would accomplish what we are trying to achieve
[21:56] <potatoes_> tomreyn: the problem is that cloud-user is the primary user to the system you are forced to Change the password everything you SSH Into that machine on initial boot
[21:56] <potatoes_> tomreyn: it's simply how the image is built
[21:57] <potatoes_> tomreyn: so i can't show you the output for the above but i can tell you it's forcing a password reset every time we launch a new machine
[21:58] <isene> libinput; My touchpad misses my taps every now and then - is there a way I can increase the sensitivity to taps in libinput?
[21:58] <tomreyn> potatoes_: for reasons, i would guess. if password authentication via ssh is supported (it probably should not be), then expiring passwords *may* be a good idea.
[21:58] <potatoes_> but it's not
[21:58] <potatoes_> lol
[21:58] <potatoes_> so I agree :)
[21:58] <potatoes_> password aging is superfluous
[21:59] <tomreyn> potatoes_: so just disable it then?
[21:59] <potatoes_> i can't
[21:59] <potatoes_> i have no control over the AMI :)
[21:59] <potatoes_> it's all managed by different divisions
[21:59] <potatoes_> suppose i should just tell them to fix it and see what they say
[21:59] <potatoes_> but i'm guessing it's a compliance issue or something something
[22:00] <tomreyn> you could work around it using 'expect' and regain automation, i guess. but it seems wrong., especially if you'd be violating compliance.
[22:00] <potatoes_> ya :(
[22:00] <potatoes_> and chage doesn't work with our automation we've tried it
[22:01] <tomreyn> talk to whoever set it up, understand why it was put in place, discuss withthem how to achieve your goals properly.
[22:01] <potatoes_> fair enough.
[22:11] <DynV> is there a way to install ubuntu running gnome bypassing unity?
[22:12] <DynV> as in never installing unity.
[22:14] <leftyfb> DynV: https://ubuntugnome.org/
[22:15] <oerheks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GetUbuntuGNOME
[22:16] <oerheks> or wait for 17.10, it will have gnome as default
[22:17] <average> has anyone succesfully used an usb docking station on Linux ?
[22:17] <gry> don't cross post this at ##linux without telling others that you did
[22:17] <DynV> ty, other desktop looking like gnome?
[22:18] <average> gry: right
[22:18] <leftyfb> average: are you conducting a survey?
[22:18] <average> no, i'm trying to find out what docking station to get
[22:19] <leftyfb> any should work
[22:19] <average> i'm mainly confused about whether i need drivers for it or not
[22:19] <leftyfb> usually not if it's just usb
[22:19] <average> not sure how linux is supposed to deal with 3 devices sending their signals over just one wire..
[22:19] <nacc> average: depends on what you want the docking station to do -- if it is displaylink, it will need external drivers (iirc)
[22:20] <average> yeah, the good thing about displaylink is that linux drivers are available
[22:20] <nacc> average: i mean, linux would not be any different than any other operating system. It all depends on the device. Some are nothing much more than hub
[22:20] <nacc> average: and are terrible, in my experience
[22:20] <average> now in terms of what i want to do: i want to be able to connect a printer to it, maybe some headphones, a keyboard and a mouse
[22:21] <nacc> average: admittedly last year, but i had a dl hub from dell and got rid of it
[22:21] <nacc> average: that sounds like more of a USB hub than a docking station
[22:21] <gry> DynV, there is not many similar thing to gnome 3, but maybe Cinnamon
[22:21] <Sleaker> Universal serial Bus is designed to have up to 127 devices on a single host controller.
[22:21] <average> well then maybe this is my question
[22:21] <average> is a driver required for using a usb hub under linux?
[22:21] <nacc> average: no
[22:21] <nacc> average: well, no more than what is already present in the linux kernel
[22:21] <average> or does linux have support for it right off the bat
[22:22] <average> nacc: sounds encouraging
[22:23] <Meliorator> hi all, need a little raid array recovery advice. after testing suspend for the first time on a new system and install, i found one of the system drives partition table was broken. the drive is part of some raid sets that i need to pull the data from. i recreated one of the partitions to test, but it won't assemble. is it safe to create? will it overwrite anything, or do "bad stuff"?
[22:30] <Dexx1_> glitsj16: Nope -- also, apologies, just saw your message. How can I do that?
[22:32] <glitsj16> Dexx1_: hi again, still 0 space left in /boot? I was thinking, make some free space first by only removing that kernel you mentioned, so try a `sudo apt-get purge <package-name>` .. you can do autoremove later on
[22:33] <Dexx1_> glitsj16: I mean, how do I know what to delete? I don't want to accidentally break anything
[22:35] <glitsj16> Dexx1_: use 'apt-cache policy linux-image*' in that case, wise to not randomly remove things.. that command will output what kernels you have installed and which ones you can remove to make some space
[22:35] <pavlos> Dexx1_: there are 5 types of files in /boot with kernel info. uname -a will tell you the current kernel, do NOT delete that
[22:37] <bad63r> hello. I need help. I was trying to search for simplescreenrecordr with "apt search simple screen recorder" and it returned me nothing , but when I did same search in gnome-software i could see simplescreenrecorder in results
[22:37] <bad63r> why is that?
[22:37] <bad63r> I'm using ubuntu 16.04 64 bit fully updated
[22:37] <pavlos> Dexx1_: ls -l /boot will group them so you can see the pattern
[22:39] <Dexx1_> pavlos: seems like this is what I am using: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  1246246 Apr 20 05:53 abi-4.4.0-75-generic
[22:39] <glitsj16> bad63r: i guess apt search simplescreenrecorder (without the spaces) would have given better results, or apt-cache policy simplescreenrecorder
[22:40] <Dexx1_> pavlos: glitsj16 -- how can I remove everything except -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  1246246 Apr 20 05:53 abi-4.4.0-75-generic?
[22:40] <nacc> bad63r: and fwiw, on 17.04, that apt search works fine
[22:41] <glitsj16> Dexx1_: don't try to remove files directly, use your package-manager, apt
[22:42] <Dexx1_> glitsj16: using sudo apt-get autoremove [kernal name] ?
[22:42] <bad63r> glitsj16, I tried putting simplescreenrecorder, simple screen recorder , simple-screen-recorder and no results :/ i guess mb it is up to bad search mechanism of apt
[22:42] <bad63r> glitsj16, thx for helping me out :)
[22:43] <glitsj16> Dexx1_: sudo apt-get purge [kernel-package-name], drop the autoremove for now
[22:43] <glitsj16> bad63r: no problem :)
[22:43] <Dexx1_> glitsj16: ok, let me try. Hopefully I'll be able to reboot after this :P
[22:43] <glitsj16> Dexx1_: might be helpfull if you would paste the output of the command pavlos gave you earlier
[22:44] <glitsj16> so the channel can give you more exact advice
[22:44] <glitsj16> without those exact names we're flying blind :)
[22:44] <Dexx1_> glitsj16: https://pastebin.com/raw/MMBcbQGA
[22:44] <Dexx1_> glitsj16: uname -r gives me: 4.4.0-75-generic
[22:45] <glitsj16> quite a few older kernels, no wonder space is getting limited.. yes, as pavlos mentioned, that is what you're running now, don't remove that one
[22:47] <Dexx1_> glitsj16: why is it keeping old kernels? I thought linux took care of that automatically?
[22:47] <pavlos> Dexx1_: seems you can remote -71 and -75, that will make room in /boot, then follow what glitsj16 wrote (dpkg --purge ...
[22:48] <Dexx1_> glitsj16: This is the command I am running right? sudo apt-get purge abi-3.19.0-80-generic
[22:48] <pavlos> Dexx1_: *remove
[22:48] <Dexx1_> 75? I thought I was running 75?
[22:48] <pavlos> Dexx1_: my mistake
[22:49] <glitsj16> Dexx1_: sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.19.0-80-generic and so forth, up to but not including 4.4.0-79-generic, you can do it one by one to see what gives
[22:49] <pavlos> Dexx1_: you have -79, newer than -75 so you have not rebooted for a while
[22:49] <Dexx1_> glitsj16: ok, doing it now
[22:49] <Dexx1_> pavlos: I rebooted yesterday and uname -r shows 75
[22:51] <glitsj16> Dexx1_: I think there was a kernel update today, you might have upgraded yet not rebooted, in any case, clean out those older kernels and get your system enjoyable again, that's the goal correct? :)
[22:53] <Dexx1_> glitsj16: yeah. Although, watching the process of deleting...seems like even that is failing because there's no space :(
[22:53] <bad63r> nacc, which version of apt do you use?
[22:54] <bad63r> nacc, you can check with apt --version
[22:54] <glitsj16> Dexx1_: seems like or did the command fail?
 bad63r: and fwiw, on 17.04, that apt search works fine
[22:54] <Dexx1_> glitsj16: https://pastebin.com/nSTefmG8
[22:54] <Dexx1_> failed..
[22:55] <bad63r> oerheks, it seems to me that is the  version of ubuntu, not apt tool
[22:55] <Dexx1_> (and I still get the 0 bytes remaining in /boot error)
[22:55] <oerheks> zesty gives apt 1.4
[22:56] <pavlos> Dexx1_: can you pastebin /boot again
[22:56] <nacc> bad63r: 1.4 in 17.04
[22:56] <bad63r> oerheks, ahh is it really possible that new version has better search engine? :D thx for info
[22:56] <nacc> bad63r: of course that's possible...
[22:56] <bad63r> nacc, oerheks was faster
[22:56] <oerheks> maybe it is not that case/letter sensitive anymore
[22:56] <Dexx1_> pavlos: https://pastebin.com/raw/ya5NJQzk
[22:57] <pavlos> Dexx1_: remove files in /boot with -71 (there are 5 files
[22:57] <Dexx1_> pavlos: what's the command?
[22:58] <Dexx1_> pavlos: manually? (i.e: rm?)
[22:58] <glitsj16> Dexx1_: looks like those other kernels never fully installed, and apt is trying to correct that .. but fails to do so because it is still lacking space.. follow pavlos here
[22:58] <Dexx1_> I thought glitsj16 said it's bad to use manually
[22:58] <pavlos> Dexx1_: yes, sudo rm file
[22:58] <glitsj16> your in sound hands
[22:58] <Dexx1_> k
[22:59] <pavlos> Dexx1_: normally you do autoremove to clean up your /boot seems it was not done for a while and /boot got full. We are trying manually to make some room
[22:59] <glitsj16> Dexx1_: true, that was before seeing your paste, if those other kernels were never fully installed apt will keep trying, so this time there's no better alternative
[23:00] <pavlos> Dexx1_: you can also rm the -78 files
[23:00] <glitsj16> Dexx1_: it's good to see you're awake and asking relevant questions, no harm in being careful and informed
[23:00] <Dexx1_> pavlos: ok, done with 71
[23:00] <Dexx1_> glitsj16: :)
[23:00] <pavlos> Dexx1_: df should tell you that /boot has some room now
[23:01] <Dexx1_> pavlos: k, done with 78
[23:02] <pavlos> Dexx1_: df should give you enough room now (use% is how much?
[23:02] <Dexx1_> pavlos: 56% -- is that good?
[23:02] <pavlos> yes
[23:02] <Dexx1_> Should I delete anything else or run any other command to update stuff?
[23:02] <pavlos> just run up/upgrade/autoremove
[23:03] <pavlos> just run update/upgrade/autoremove
[23:06] <Dexx1_> pavlos: cool. Looks like its working :) 88% free on /boot. Thanks! Also, Thanks glitsj16 :)
[23:07] <glitsj16> Dexx1_: very welcome, nice to see it's getting fixed, perhaps look at https://askubuntu.com/questions/2793/how-do-i-remove-old-kernel-versions-to-clean-up-the-boot-menu to configure your Ubuntu for future avoidance of this
[23:07] <pavlos> Dexx1_: good ... but puzzled that uopn reboot, it did not select the -81
[23:08] <Dexx1_> pavlos: it wasn't really a reboot, rather, I held the power button because the computer froze X_x
[23:08] <pavlos> Dexx1_: so do a clean reboot and uname -r whould reflect the most recent vmlinuz in /boot
[23:14] <sadtaco> I'm trying to boot onto a Ubuntu 17.04 disk and I'm getting "Failed to connect to lvmetad. Falling back to device scanning. \ /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root: clean  ######/#######..."
[23:18] <glitsj16> sadtaco: that's an informative message, usually when running in chroot.. by itself harmless IMO .. the channel will need some more info on your situation/question before anyone chimes in with answers etc.. does it drop you in GRUB shell? black screen? what's going on exactly? :)
[23:18] <sadtaco> It just stops there.
[23:20] <glitsj16> sadtaco: have you tried running 'dmesg' and checked for errors yet?
[23:20] <sadtaco> It doesn't let me input anything. You mean I should ctrl+alt+f1 or something to get into another tty and checking that?
[23:21] <glitsj16> sadtaco: yes, if changing TTY's still works
[23:23] <glitsj16> sadtaco: is 17.04 already installed? or is that what you're trying to do?
[23:24] <hipp> sadtaco: little bit of googling found this  https://askubuntu.com/questions/745218/ubuntu-wont-boot-because-of-lvmetad
[23:24] <sadtaco> Yes it's already installed and was runnign earlier.
[23:24] <sadtaco> Disconnected the HDD for a bit, now tried putting it back in
[23:24] <sadtaco> I found that as well though it seems different
[23:29] <sadtaco> dmesg looked fine.
[23:29] <sadtaco> After switching ttys it got into the desktop as well, albeit seemed to struggle a bit before rendering correctly
[23:30] <glitsj16> sadtaco: would you mind pasting /var/log/Xorg.0.log? might be display manager related.. using GDM? lightdm?
[23:30] <sadtaco> Whatever comes with 17.04 by default. Gnome and whatever DM is default.
[23:32] <glitsj16> that'll be GDM, noy sure, still on 16.04 here, you can always check via 'systemctl is-enabled lightdm' or 'systemctl is-enabled gdm'
[23:34] <ShaRose> So, I've managed to ALMOST but not quite get clevis-luks working on ubuntu, with only very few hacks (like adding a line of code to /scripts/local-top/cryptroot...) but now I have one remaining hurtle: to get askpass to return without the user having to press enter
[23:34] <ShaRose> sadly, it doesn't seem like /proc works in initramfs, so I have no idea how to get it working :S
[23:37] <ShaRose> wonder if echo "" > /dev/stdin will work for me :P
[23:37] <ShaRose> doesn't seem like it :P
[23:39] <sadtaco-remote> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24903074/
[23:39] <sadtaco-remote> There is the Xorg.0.log paste
[23:40] <sadtaco-remote> Could have issues with the config being for 3 GPUs when now 6 are plugged in, but eh
[23:49] <glitsj16> sadtaco-remote: i see, yet none of the nvidia GPU's are getting recognized properly according to that log.. do you use custom /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d files?
[23:51] <glitsj16> sadtaco-remote: I never dealt with such a complex setup, 6 GPU's damn :p .. I'm not running away here, just want to put that out as it is
[23:54] <glitsj16> sadtaco-remote: ow, the log mentions reading config from /etc/X11/xorg.conf, mind pasting that too?
[23:54] <pavlos> I see 3 GPU, GPU-0, GPU-1 and GPU-2
[23:56] <arooni> trying to fix so i can suspend resume on my thinkpad laptop;  is this a valid line in my current grub config file? 1) GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="splash 2012'=1=1 acpi_backlight=vendor quiet acpi_osi='!Windows 2013'=1=1" ; 2) would GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="splash 2013'=1=1 acpi_backlight=vendor quiet acpi_osi='!Windows 2013'=1=1" be better?  3) is default value of GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="" correct?
[23:56] <istvang> anyone from Estonia? please msg me
[23:58] <EvilRoey> HI
[23:58] <EvilRoey> I'm having issues with Kubuntu (#kubuntu is dead for now)
[23:58] <EvilRoey> I just try to boot to a new installation to a new machine, and I get dmesg errors, I looked them up and was able to boot with the kernel param pci=noaer.  But this is not persistent
[23:59] <EvilRoey> also, why did Ubuntu/Kubuntu disable the left-shift on bootup for options again??
[23:59] <migmolrod> anyone here using sbackup can please pastebin me the default "Include" dirs it uses?