[00:01] <sadtaco> glitsj16, yeah custom xorg.conf to get it to enable overclocking on them all. That's probably it.  I need to regenerate and re-edit
[00:01] <sadtaco> That seems unrelated to lvmetad though, no, glitsj16?
[00:02] <EvilRoey> hi?
[00:03] <glitsj16> sadtaco: I still think the lvmetad message was just informative, it was the last thing you saw due to those GPU's not getting recognized. so yes, unrelated IMO
[00:04] <EvilRoey> sadtaco: is your nick a reference to Baman Piderman?
[00:04] <EvilRoey> oh, that's sadpizza, rather
[00:06] <glitsj16> sadtaco: my best advice would be to move the custom xorg.conf out of the way untill you get a clean boot. Then add it back in after re-editing.. can't be of much help beyond that i'm afraid
[19:03] <senaps> minimec: it is a very large file and pastebinit didn't work on my system :( (i installed it, but failed to use it)
[19:04] <Elec_A> nacc, geirha I got your point. I'll bypass the command by first checking the slaves file.
[19:04] <Elec_A> it should run the pdsh command only if there is something in the file. How is that?
[19:04] <senaps> ioria: what about the first line of the file that contains the error? is that error because i have two swaps?
[19:05] <ioria> senaps,  what line ?
[19:05] <geirha> Then I'd write it something like  mapfile -t hosts < /path/to/slaves; if (( ${#hosts[@]} > 0 )); then IFS=,; pdsh ... -w "${hosts[*]}" ...; unset -v IFS; fi
[19:05] <Elec_A> geirha: wondeful!
[19:06] <Elec_A> I'll try it. thank you!
[19:06] <minimec> senaps: ok. Your current boot is with ntp.service disabled, right?. It's the time sync server, so not the most important one.
[19:07] <senaps> ioria: https://paste.ubuntu.com/24910070/   line 9 has an error on it.
[19:07] <ioria> senaps,  no
[19:08] <minimec> senaps: If ntp disabled, try "journalctl -b -1 > bootlog.txt" (the boot before). You can now open the bootlog.txt file in your home folder and copy/paste ...
[19:08] <senaps> minimec: i just disabled the ntp service. i donno how it thought i might need it. i think i should restart the system and re check?
[19:08] <ioria> senaps,  it means that if an error occurs, the fs will be remounted read only
[19:09] <minimec> senaps: I would reenable ntp.service and do a reboot to confirm the problem, right.
[19:10] <senaps> minimec: Specifying boot ID has no effect, no persistent journal was found ( this is the error for the -1 switch. i don't have it without -1 . but i get a very very large file! :)
[19:10] <Dexter_F> minimec, oh, blueman handles that. works, actually.
[19:10] <senaps> let me just restart the system and come back with all services restored to what they were! :)
[19:12] <sisve> I find that every now and then (and without reproduction case) my physical ubuntu server is turned off. It works when I press the power button, and I cannot find anything relevant in kern.log or syslog. I have stable power and other hardware in the apartment (clocks, computers) is not affected by any power glitches. How can I debug this further?
[19:13] <oborot___> Hello?
[19:13] <sisve> 'ello!
[19:13] <oborot___> Am I registered?
[19:13] <minimec> Dexter_F: Cool. Is there also a 'accept file via bluetooth' option in there?
[19:14] <pavlos> sisve: could be overheating and m/b protection turns it off
[19:14] <oborot___> Seems that way...
[19:14] <oborot___> Anycase, I have a systemd question...
[19:14] <sisve> pavlos, wouldn't that trigger something that ws logged anywhere? As a warning to the os that "you're going down"
[19:15] <Dexter_F> minimec, it actually asked when I sent the file to the computer. the default dir ~/.cache/obexd is a bit clunky, but configurable
[19:15] <pavlos> sisve: not sure the event gets logged since the m/b and bios takes over
[19:15] <sisve> pavlos, but yes, that is a fully valid suggestion. I will open this large heavy thing and go grab my compressed air and blow things around.
[19:15] <oborot___> I have a systemd service managing passenger standalone for me.... I noticed the memory usage is pretty high when I have the type set to forking. Type=simple is a little less memory hungry.
[19:15] <sisve> pavlos, since I am very very lazy, is there any builtin command to view sensor temps via ssh?
[19:15] <oborot___> What might the reason for that be?
[19:15] <pavlos> sisve: you can install lm-sensors, and save data to a file, you can see if there is a trend
[19:16] <sisve> pacbard, you and your quick relevant answers! ;)
[19:16] <minimec> Dexter_F: I see. Long time ago I did such things. I normally 'sftp' to my phone now.
[19:16] <oborot___> I'm daemonizing the passenger process as suggested in systemd's documentation for Type=forking
[19:18] <pavlos> sisve: you can ssh to target and run the command sensors
[19:19] <sisve> pavlos, i'm trying to figure out if this thing is joking... but I have a "thermal diode" on +98C, "intel peci" on +97C and "k10temp-pci-00c3, pci adapter" on +85C
[19:19] <sisve> I should probably fix this. ;)
[19:19] <Dexter_F> minimec, I'd *love* to, I handled it via ftp fro ages, but this rotten Pixel/Android 7 won't let me, whereever I point the ftp at I get an empty dir
[19:20] <senaps> okay, here is my new systemd analyze https://paste.ubuntu.com/24910354/
[19:21] <minimec> Dexter_F: And if you tried it the other way around? There is certainly an 'apk' for it... https://github.com/jonghough/AndroidSSH
[19:22] <pavlos> senaps: take a look at /etc/ntp.conf what time servers are you trying to sync with?
[19:22] <senaps> https://paste.ubuntu.com/24910373/  and this is the result of trying to stop ntp.
[19:23] <ioria> senaps, sudo systemctl stop ntp   what it says ?
[19:24] <senaps> stop has no problem, but disabling it (so it doesn't start the next boot) throws that error.
[19:24] <ghoti> What do people use for drawing network diagrams these days? I've used Dia for years, but it seems a little stagnant. Is there something new and sexy?
[19:24] <ioria> senaps, sudo systemctl disable ntp   and reboot
[19:24] <ioria> senaps, those are warns
[19:25] <senaps> pavlos: https://paste.ubuntu.com/24910385/ this is the result of etc/ntp.conf
[19:25] <senaps> ioria: huh....
[19:25] <minimec> senaps: You told us that your internet connection is not that good. It might be that the used ntp server to sync the time is not well reachable for you .So one idea would be to choose a server in your area. See http://www.pool.ntp.org/en/ and tutorial here https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-time-synchronization-on-ubuntu-16-04
[19:27] <senaps> minimec: i don't need the ntp do i? i could just set the time manually and be okay?
[19:29] <senaps> let me throw another restart to the system. last time i got 2.7 minutes :(
[19:30] <pavlos> senaps: if you ping ntp.ubuntu.com what numbers are you getting?
[19:31] <minimec> senaps: That is true. It's a 'nice to have'. If you can fix it, I would do so. Otherwise you can probably just 'sudo apt remove ntp'. Still have a look at that tutorial. Seems to be an interesting read. https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-time-synchronization-on-ubuntu-16-04
[19:33] <pavlos> senaps: is your system configured with the right timezone? (sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata)
[19:36] <Dexter_F> minimec, thats an ssh client, isnt it?
[19:37] <minimec> Dexter_F: Looks like. I don't need that, but I found it in my bookmarks.
[19:38] <sisve> pavlos, a quick report, you were very correct. Numbers went down;
[19:38] <sisve> +98C to +46C, +97C to +43C, +85C to +32C
[19:38] <sisve> . Also, there's dust everywhere.
[19:38] <sisve> ...
[19:38] <sisve> I shall have a serious talk with my irc client and hidden newlnies.
[19:40] <minimec> Dexter_F: There are other aps available... https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sonelli.juicessh&hl=de
[19:42] <pavlos> sisve: there is also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/PowerManagement/ThermalIssues that might help you monitor
[19:43] <sisve> pavlos, I believe the technical term was "a metric shit-ton of dust". There's no software solution to this.
[19:43] <pavlos> true
[19:43] <sisve> But I will look into the thermald thing and see if it can at least write something to any log I can read during the repeated post mortems.
[20:13] <PenguinMan98> nacc: this got my apt-get working again: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=101659
[20:16] <RealPanV> This mind sound like silly question, but I'm on Xubuntu and I can't seem to be able to find GUI based proxy manager. I've already modified the environment file but, it's not that flexible and not that easy to change the proxy server I'm connected to, so yeah
[20:16] <RealPanV> *might, oops, autocorrect
[20:17] <naeluh> Is there a way to set global environment variables ?
[20:19] <n-iCe> Any idea? https://goo.gl/photos/tJfFjtiruYbcHPLi6
[20:19] <n-iCe> Cant use my wifi just installed ubuntu in this machine
[20:21] <akik> naeluh: for user processes, you could put the into /etc/profile
[20:21] <akik> naeluh: or /etc/environment. i don't actually remember the difference
[20:22] <naeluh> akik: would I have to do that for every user?
[20:22] <akik> naeluh: no, those are "global"
[20:22] <naeluh> oh cool
[20:22] <naeluh> thanks!
[20:23] <akik> naeluh: /etc/profile could be for sh/bash/ksh
[20:23] <naeluh> I am using bash
[20:24] <n-iCe> Hellow?
[20:24] <n-iCe> https://goo.gl/photos/tJfFjtiruYbcHPLi6
[20:26] <kenrin> You'll need to blacklist the conflicting drivers n-iCe
[20:27] <n-iCe> And how will i make it work after blacklisting it?
[20:27] <n-iCe> It is my wifi
[20:29] <kenrin> Well right now it looks like it is in use by multiple drivers.   lsmod it to see
[20:30] <n-iCe> Kenrin
[20:30] <n-iCe> https://goo.gl/photos/bn5NyNuYoSwdwXM4A
[20:34] <analogical> how do I run a program in the terminal that requires root?
[20:34] <kenrin> open /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf and add the lines: blacklist rt2800pci  blacklist rt2800lib   blacklist rt2x00usb blacklist rt2x00pci  blacklist rt2x00lib
[20:34] <kenrin> Make sure they are on a single line each then reboot
[20:34] <pavlos> n-iCe: maybe, sudo iwconfig wlan0 power off
[20:35] <EldonMcGuinness> Ok, is it just me or are all the PGP capable email apps on Android ugly?
[20:36] <pavlos> analogical: you prefix with sudo (example: sudo apt update, apt update will not work as normal user)
[20:37] <n-iCe> Kenrin
[20:37] <n-iCe> Done
[20:37] <n-iCe> Now
[20:37] <octo8> hi, i'm posting terminal tricks in this playlist, https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjnI5vRWVOmInd83Y9zUyllD4t2QcXQ7h , do you think this is a bad idea or a good idea ?
[20:38] <kenrin> Did it help?  I'm not that good at troubleshooting wifi
[20:38] <nacc> EldonMcGuinness: wouldn't that be a question for android?
[20:38] <n-iCe> Lol no
[20:38] <n-iCe> Now it does not even show my wifi interface
[20:38] <nacc> octo8: I don't know why that would be ontopic for this channel?
[20:38] <kenrin> What kind of card is it
[20:39] <kenrin> usb,  pci,  mimo ?
[20:39] <n-iCe> Pci i guess
[20:39] <n-iCe> Builtin my lap
[20:39] <octo8> nacc: it's useful for centos
[20:39] <octo8> for linux users i mean
[20:39] <pavlos> n-iCe: lspci should list the devices
[20:39] <n-iCe> I told him
[20:39] <nacc> octo8: so? this is the ubuntu support channel. Asking us if it is a good idea or not is offtopic.
[20:40] <analogical> pavlos, I get "Username is not in the sudoers file"
[20:40] <octo8> nacc: so, what channel to post to ?
[20:40] <nacc> analogical: then you can't run a program as root with that user
[20:40] <nacc> !alis | octo8: i have no idea
[20:40] <kenrin> n-iCe: lspci it,  find out what driver it uses and just remove the blacklist for only that one
[20:40] <vlt> analogical: Then the user is not allowed to run stuff as root.
[20:41] <analogical> nacc, vlt do I have to log out and log in again as root?
[20:41] <n-iCe> Rr3290
[20:41] <n-iCe> It says
[20:41] <n-iCe> Rt*
[20:41] <nacc> analogical: logging in as root is generally not done with ubuntu (but of course is possible)
[20:42] <pavlos> analogical: ubuntu release?
[20:43] <kenrin> n-iCe: If that is the card then you'll need to download a patched driver.  Follow answer #2 in this thread:   https://askubuntu.com/questions/545238/how-to-install-wifi-driver-ralink-rt3290
[20:43] <n-iCe> How come it works in debian
[20:44] <EldonMcGuinness> nacc: Just curious if anyone here noticed the same, not really something that can be fixed :D
[20:44] <EldonMcGuinness> but offtopic none the less
[20:44] <kenrin> debian uses older and more stable sources
[20:45] <n-iCe> So ubuntu uses newer... Should work better, no?
[20:45] <n-iCe> Anyway
[20:45] <n-iCe> Thanks
[20:48] <kasad> any pointers how I could set up Inform Guardian UPS with Ubuntu Desktop 16.04.2 LTS
[20:48] <kasad> can't find anything online
[20:49] <kasad> and manufacturers site has specs only, no support, nothing
[20:53] <kenrin> kasad: You could see if the standard tools like upsmon will view it.   But they say linux support on their website so they must have tools of their own or list what tools they use
[20:54] <kasad> ok thanks for a tip, nothing on website nor in manual
[20:55] <kenrin> Here is the supported list for upsmon for that brand if it helps:  http://networkupstools.org/ddl/Inform/
[20:57] <kasad> that should work
[20:58] <kasad> was just told that they have cd
[20:58] <kasad> but on cd in readme for linux their sw has monitoring over serial
[20:58] <kasad> but the usb in connected on usb
[20:58] <kasad> o.O
[20:59] <kasad> this one is similar to informer only 800VA, should work, off to read the docs
[20:59] <kasad> thanks again man
[21:16] <FatDarrel> hello is the ubunu AWS us-west-2 mirror slow today?
[21:16] <FatDarrel> Looks like updates are taking a long time?
[21:16] <nacc> FatDarrel: that is probably a question for amazon
[21:17] <FatDarrel> Fetched 11.8 MB in 4min 27s (44.1 kB/s)
[21:17] <FatDarrel>  Reading package lists...
[21:17] <FatDarrel> yeah
[21:32] <RonaldsMazitis> hello, my geany can't open files if I'm in file manager with root privalages
[21:32] <RonaldsMazitis> priviliges*
[21:33] <RonaldsMazitis> Geany tried to access the Unix Domain socket of another instance running as another user.
[21:33] <RonaldsMazitis> This is a fatal error and Geany will now quit.
[21:34] <nacc> RonaldsMazitis: it's really not recommended to use GUI tools as root
[21:34] <RonaldsMazitis> so You programm something with nano
[21:35] <RonaldsMazitis> I could do this all the time, but something is messing with gean
[21:35] <RonaldsMazitis> y
[21:36] <nacc> RonaldsMazitis: what? what does nano have to do with anything?
[21:36] <RonaldsMazitis> it's not gui tool
[21:37] <nacc> RonaldsMazitis: in any case, why are you running geany as not your user? it's an IDE!
[21:38] <tgm4883> nacc: I don't think that's what he's saying
[21:38] <nacc> tgm4883: oh -- i have no idea what they are saying then :)
[21:38] <tgm4883> he's running nautilus as root, presumably so he can view files that his user doesn't have access to. Then right-click open with geany, which doesn't work since geany opens as his user
[21:38] <RonaldsMazitis> exactly
[21:39] <nacc> also don't we recommend *not* running nautilus as root?
[21:39] <tgm4883> RonaldsMazitis: yea, don't do that
[21:39] <nacc> as that's a "bad idea" (TM)
[21:39] <RonaldsMazitis> I'm not running nautilus, it's not my choice of file manager
[21:40] <nacc> RonaldsMazitis: it extrapolates to *any* graphical file manager
[21:40] <RonaldsMazitis> why not
[21:40] <Volund> Hey quick question. Is there a limit to how many clients can connect to an Ubuntu installation? I'm trying to work on some scalability stress testing and related things and am not sure what factors to consider
[21:41] <nacc> RonaldsMazitis: because they require user context (e.g., $HOME, etc.) to operate and will change permissions of things as a result so, eventually, you might not be able to run them as your regular user. Also, they (at least nautilus) have extensions to allow you to view things with elevated permissions, rather than running the program as root.
[21:41] <nacc> Volund: clients of ... ?
[21:46] <Volund> nacc: I am using a VPS to run a number of MUD/MUSH/etc games. basically telnet servers. There are 100-150 clients connected at most at any one time right now. I just received reports that a few peopel were getting 'connection refused'
[21:47] <Volund> I'm pondering coding up something in Python to try and connect 300 clients and see what happens but first I wanna hear just what sorts of systems govern connections
[21:48] <Volund> the /etc/sysctl.conf seems to have some stuff for tuning TCP/IP for instance... and I've heard that ulimit has some bearing on it though I don't quite know how it works. Am researching things
[21:48] <nacc> Volund: right, so 'telnet clients' (i was basically asking how the clients were connecting)
[21:52] <n-iCe> hi
[21:56] <MarkB2> I've just found Witt's End.  I've a 4 GB thumb drive that wish to partition into two segments.  The first is a small FAT12 partition of about 64K.  The second partition should be the remainder of the drive.
[21:56] <MarkB2> Linux fdisk will let me do that... and mkfs.vfat will format the partition.
[21:57] <MarkB2> Now I unplug the drive from LInuxLand and plug it into a Windows 7 box.
[21:57] <MarkB2> Windows 7 gets the partition types confused.  The Disk Management tool sees the 4 GB drive... but only ONE partition.
[21:58] <MarkB2> When I try to format that partition, it gets up on its hind legs and claims the big partition has an allocation size of more than 32K.
[21:59] <MarkB2> Pardon, I have that slightly backwards.
[21:59] <MarkB2> ARRRGH.
[21:59] <MarkB2> It thinks the FAT12 partition is where the FAT32 partition is located.
[22:00] <MarkB2> No, I had that right.
[22:01] <nacc> MarkB2: is this a windows issue?
[22:02] <MarkB2> nacc: I'm not sure.  I'm actually trying to create a hidden FAT12 partition on the stick... but I can't tell from this seat if Linux is using the correct byte in the right spot... or if Windows is just messed up.
[22:02] <howardwlo> hello! when i apt-get install redis-server, i’m getting version 3.0.6 as the latest version. how do i install version 3.2.8 to match my local machine?
[22:02] <nacc> howardwlo: what version of ubuntu?
[22:03] <howardwlo> nacc: 16.04
[22:03] <howardwlo> …i believe
[22:03] <nacc> howardwlo: look for a PPA, build from source, etc.
[22:03] <nacc> howardwlo: 3.0.6 is the version in 16.04
[22:03] <nacc> MarkB2: oh ok
[22:03] <howardwlo> is 3.2.8 not supported?
[22:03] <nacc> howardwlo: not on 16.04
[22:03] <nacc> howardwlo: at least, not here
[22:04] <howardwlo> balls.
[22:04] <nacc> howardwlo: how are you running 3.2.8 locally? not ubuntu?
[22:05] <howardwlo> nacc: osc
[22:05] <howardwlo> osx*
[22:06] <howardwlo> the 3.2.8 dump file isn’t compatible with 3.0.6 it seems :/ "Can't handle RDB version 7” when i start my redis on 3.0.6
[22:08] <MarkB2> I just re-did the thumb drive's partition... one big FAT32 and used mkfs.vfat to set it up.
[22:10] <MarkB2> Then tweaked my backup program to use /dev/sda1 as target.  That works... and the drive can be plugged into Win7.  WinExplorer starts up and there are all those files.
[22:45] <Richard_Cavell> Hello, everyone
[22:46] <Mathisen> hello
[22:47] <Richard_Cavell> This is now my second day of working with Ubuntu after wiping OS X.
[22:47] <Mathisen> good for you
[22:47] <Richard_Cavell> There are a couple of things that are less than perfect, but it is clear that Ubuntu will give this 11-year-old iMac new life
[22:48] <vlt> Richard_Cavell: Welcome!
[23:05] <TenukiBen> I have a question about updating my kernel
[23:05] <TenukiBen> I am on 16.04 with 4.4.0-79-generic , and am reading a guide that claims upgrading to 4.4.8 will solve a problem I am having with a second monitor
[23:06] <Ben64> TenukiBen: well you can't get 4.4.8 but you can get a much newer kernel with HWE
[23:06] <nacc> TenukiBen: ubuntu and maninline's kernels don't match up like that
[23:06] <nacc> TenukiBen: you'd need to read the ubuntu kernel changelog to determine if the patch you want is backported (or compare the sources)
[23:06] <Ben64> !info linux-image-generic-hwe-16.04 xenial | TenukiBen
[23:06] <nacc> TenukiBen: or as Ben64 said, if you know what major version the fix was in (as oppposed to stable update), then you might be ok with hwe
[23:07] <Ben64> or linux-generic-hwe-16.04-edge for 4.10
[23:10] <TenukiBen> nacc: I don't know where the fix comes from :/ .   Where can I read more about what kernel / Ubuntu version pairings are safe (ie, can I go straight to 4.8.0?)
[23:10] <TenukiBen> (So as to avoid wasting anyone's time)
[23:11] <Ben64> pick one of the two options i gave you
[23:13] <nacc> TenukiBen: also, fwiw, 4.4.0-78.99 was 4.4.62
[23:13] <nacc> (based upon a random changelog i was able to find in my chdist)
[23:14] <TenukiBen> Ben64: Thank you very much!  Do you have a recommendation on what to read to avoid bothering you in the future?
[23:14] <Ben64> bothering?
[23:17] <TenukiBen> Ben64: I am always a little worried that I'll annoy someone dropping in to ask a question.  Either way, thank you for helping! <3
[23:18] <oerheks> TenukiBen, you are doing fine, have fun
[23:19] <nacc> !hwe | TenukiBen: you may want to read this as well to understand what Ben64 pointed you to
[23:19] <oerheks> that HWE is worth reading, indeed
[23:23] <Ben64> for 16.04 it's https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/RollingLTSEnablementStack now
[23:23] <Ben64> better method than previous
[23:25] <nacc> Ben64: yep, linked to from the main page
[23:44] <Sleaker> Ben64: imo it's not better.
[23:44] <Sleaker> rolling non-LTS kernels into major disc releases is bad form.
[23:46] <Ben64> Sleaker: ubuntu supports the kernels so... it's fine
[23:47] <Sleaker> not past 6 months and it's getting pre-installed on intermediary LTS releases until the next LTS kernel gets released.
[23:48] <n-iCe> Ubuntu is using 4GB of RAM
[23:48] <n-iCe> Is no that a lot?
[23:51] <Bashing-om> !ram
[23:54] <SchrodingersScat> So I'm pinging a domain that I'm having dns issues with.  On a remote machine it pings another remote machine I own, but only because it's pinging a subdomain.  So for instance, if I'm on lobster.schrodingersscat.org and I ping this domain that isn't in the record, foo.bar, my machine ends up pinging foo.bar.schrodingersscat.org  what?
[23:54] <Budd> SchrodingersScat: resolv.conf typically has a list of domains to try tacking on the end if the first lookup fails.
[23:55] <Budd> I think the relevant lines start with "search"
[23:57] <SchrodingersScat> Budd: huh, so by naming it lobster.schrodingersscat.org on install, does that default to the main domain?  Thanks for the answer, that's clearly it.  It was scaring me, because of all the things this should have directed to, my main machine was not it.