[00:12] <wallyworld> menn0_: jeez, those dns caching prs affect the semantics of address / endpoint mgmt a fair bit, plus it seems a lot is required for cert validation. i wonder if a quick fix is just to poke in the no-op dns cache and leave the rest
[00:14] <menn0_> wallyworld: I suspect it won't be so simple but I'm open to a quick fix if there is one. we should discuss at tech board.
[00:14] <wallyworld> yep
[00:14] <wallyworld> john will know more
[00:15] <wallyworld> i was being optimistic
[00:20] <menn0_> wallyworld: i've added this to the agenda
[00:21] <wallyworld> sgtm
[01:08] <babbageclunk> I really need to start reading reviews from bottom to top - things are made much harder by trying to understand api and apiserver changes before seeing the worker changes.
[01:09] <thumper> I'll be able to make some of the tech board, but due to kid related taxiing, I'll miss the end
[01:59] <wallyworld> thumper: do you think you'll get to this today? https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/7520 it's a request you made at comcast, so i'd figure i'd ask you to review :-)
[01:59]  * thumper looks
[02:01] <axw> wallyworld: I couldn't repro the resources bug, so I've marked Invalid and asked them for steps if it persists in 2.2.1
[02:02] <wallyworld> ok, ta
[02:02] <wallyworld> might have been fixed as part of other work
[02:02] <wallyworld> i know stuff had been done in that area
[02:02] <axw> yeah, possibly
[02:04] <babbageclunk> wallyworld: approved
[02:04] <wallyworld> babbageclunk: u r oarsome, ty
[02:04] <axw> wallyworld: shall I look at the proxy bug?
[02:05] <wallyworld> axw: on the tech board agenda, i feel john might know a bit of the top of his head. would be good if you took a peak before hand to get context
[02:05] <axw> ok
[02:58] <thumper> wallyworld: sorry for the dealy, had sparkies and visitors
[02:58]  * thumper looks again
[02:58] <wallyworld> tis ok
[02:58] <thumper> I'm about to turn into a taxi again shortly...
[02:58] <wallyworld> no worries, i'll deal
[03:01] <axw> wallyworld: https://cloudplatform.googleblog.com/2017/06/Google-Cloud-Region-in-Sydney.html <- should try and get this in for 2.2.1?
[03:03] <wallyworld> axw: yeah, although just need publicclouds.yaml update as we know, but should be trivial to add to code so it works ootb
[03:03] <axw> yep
[03:03] <axw> I'll send a PR shortly
[03:06] <axw> hm, cloud-images needs updating
[03:08] <thumper> wallyworld: a few questions
[03:08] <thumper> and this https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/7525
[03:08] <wallyworld> sure
[03:08] <thumper> I'm about to drop kids at aerobics, and back for the tech board
[03:08] <wallyworld> ok
[05:49] <babbageclunk> wallyworld: I'm pausing for dinner, but I'll get the upgrade step done later tonight.
[06:03] <axw> jam: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/7529 is the small/short-term fix for the proxy issue. AFAICT, this is not unit-testable, because https_proxy is ignored if the target address is a loopback address
[06:04] <jam> axw: can you do a lookup to get a non loopback address for your local machine?
[06:04] <jam> most machines have them
[06:13] <axw> jam: I have verified it on my machine. I guess I could do a lookup and skip the test if it can't find one
[06:13] <jam> axw: seems like something like that would help us avoid regressing.
[06:13] <axw> yeah. I'll have another shot in a sec, just reviewing a PR
[06:13] <jam> most CI machines and developer laptops will have more than just localhost
[11:30] <jam> wallyworld: I have a question about an upgrade test if you come online.
[11:30] <jam> One of your tests isn't asserting what you think it is, but I'm not quite sure how to fix it
[11:31] <wallyworld> jam: i'm here but a bit distracted or another 20 minutes
[11:32] <jam> wallyworld: I emailed you, but if you want to ping me about it when you're aroud
[11:43] <jam> ah, I have to go in 5min to take my son to piano, I'll be back in ~1hr but that may be too late. You can just respond to the email
[11:43] <jam> it can probably wait till tomorrow