=== LjL2 is now known as LjL [00:16] schrodingerssc.at us available! [00:17] EldonMcGuinness, lets keep that to the chat channel [00:17] #ubuntu-offtopic [00:17] Ahh snickers, I thought I was in offtopic :P [00:23] question with ubuntu [00:24] freenas vs ubuntu nas box, has anyone compared the performance? im currently looking at using sickbeard/couch potato + SABNZBD. Thoughts? [00:25] I feel ubuntu heavy [00:25] not fluid as it used to be [00:26] So is anyone here virtualizing another OS within Ubuntu as host? If so, what OS are you virtualizing? I wonder if I'm missing out by not using another *nix [00:27] richard_cavell: Im actually virtualizing ubuntu lool [00:27] I do pretty terrible things to ubuntu, so I blow my messes away often [00:27] I'm running Ubuntu on the metal. But I wonder if I'm missing out by not installing VirtualBox and putting something else inside there [00:33] Does anyone know if ubuntu 17.04 is stable already ? I was having issues with it for downloading repositories === andyhuzhill1 is now known as andyhuzhill [00:34] Was having hash mismatch [00:34] SummerRain: yes [00:34] SummerRain: no it's not until October [00:34] I just downloaded [00:34] no problems [00:34] or lol [00:34] I can't read apparently [00:34] I'm on 17.04 currently and don't have any issues [00:34] Well i was installing some apps with it and it did give me hash mismatches, when i downgraded to 16.x, it worked fine [00:34] it was opencv . [00:34] sometimes a hashsum mismatch occurs when the server got updated, try again in a few minutes. [00:35] I tried 1 day later, did all that apt-clean and so on [00:35] changed server etc [00:35] Nothing.. [00:35] was something between these lines "Failed to fetch opencv hash sum mismatch" [00:35] When i downgraded to ubuntu 16, it worked... [00:35] So now im not sure if i should install ubuntu 17 on my PC [00:36] Or if i should wait... [00:36] maybe that opencv repo has no candidate for 17.04, we need the full errorlog for that [00:37] I dont have it anymore :( [00:37] Im not sure what to do now [00:38] "hash sum mismatch" usually means the repo was being updated at the same time you were using it and the file you downloaded was compared to a hash sum of a newer file that was uploaded after you began [00:41] But it happened 24h after the first time it did [00:41] i even cleaned and did all that procedure described on stack over flow [00:41] I should have come here when it happened [00:43] let's try lubuntu [00:44] Btw, are there any AMD drivers for radeon GPU's for ubuntu ? [00:45] !amd | SummerRain [00:45] SummerRain: Open driver for AMD cards: amdgpu (cards >= GCN1.2 aka GCN 3rd gen), radeon (older cards). Closed drivers: amdgpu-pro (>= GCN1.2) fglrx (older cards, unsupported by AMD in 16.04+). For info on GCN levels, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units . For fglrx info, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD [00:45] openradeon and openamd-gpu/amdgpu-pro, depending on the card [00:45] radeon 6850 [00:49] wow thast geting old fast [00:49] seriously need to roll back that timeout timer [00:50] Richard_cavell: No you arent missing much. honestly just use kvm, I personally think it offers a lot more flexibility that virtual box [00:51] ,v NAS [01:26] Does anyone know how to refresh groups without logging out? I know it's possible because ages ago I did it. I cannot logout because of some work I need to complete. [01:27] codygman: you can activate a new group with newgrp [01:27] codygman: i don't know of any other way [01:27] akik: Oh yeah, that's right... that will work [01:53] how can i install audacity Audio editor? [01:58] j4ckcom: It's in the repo . enable the universe repo . [01:59] !info audacity xenial | j4ckcom [01:59] Bashing-om: what you mean? [01:59] j4ckcom: audacity (source: audacity): fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.2-1 (xenial), package size 2784 kB, installed size 9128 kB [01:59] j4ckcom: ' sudo apt install audacity ' . All there is to it . [02:00] Bashing-om: audacity-data <— what is it? [02:00] j4ckcom: ' [02:01] j4ckcom: ' sudo apt show audacity-data ' in terminal . [02:34] j4ckcom: Nother tutorial : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems . [02:35] thanks Bashing-om :) [02:36] j4ckcom: Interesting world - minimal install . you will learn a lot :) [02:36] oh good thanks :) === madmangunradio1 is now known as madman === JanC is now known as Guest88964 === JanC_ is now known as JanC [03:48] Howdy everyone [04:04] Is there an IRC channel where I can get help with xrdp. I have it working between the machines I'd like to use, is it possible to use it through ssh (I have openssh-server installed on the server machine) [04:08] !alis | CuChulaind [04:08] CuChulaind: Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http" [04:11] Bashing-om, thank you [04:14] CuChulaind: :) [05:23] anyone here familiar with ZNC irc bouncer? [05:35] i have added a repository for installing arc-theme by using this command "sudo sh -c "echo 'deb http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/Horst3180/xUbuntu_16.04/ /' >> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/arc-theme.list". now i wanted to remove it how do i remove it? [05:35] !ppapurge | rajivmars [05:35] rajivmars: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:/ » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html [05:35] ubottu, ok thanks [05:40] is this 'sudo sh -c "echo 'deb http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/Horst3180/xUbuntu_16.04/ /' >> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/arc-theme.list" a ppa? [05:42] ubottu: is there any graphical way to remove repositories with associated keyring? [05:42] rajivmars: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [05:45] ubottu: if i want to remove a particular repository from settings>software and updates. can is be possible. if possible, then please tell me how? [05:45] rajivmars: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [05:47] rajivmars: read the ppapurge way, this way there will be no leftovers in your sources [05:57] Hello. Is there an option on lubuntu 16.04 to download a grub-1 installer? Grub2 doesn't work on my old laptop when I changed to SSD and after every update. I am manually installing grub-1 from puppy linux every time, maybe I can download an installer for lubuntu? Thanks [05:57] San_IL, grub 1 is dead, unsupported and outdated [05:58] I understand, but it's only solution that boots my lubuntu :( [05:58] the grub 2 get's error everytime "Trying to read outside hd0" and I have found no fix yet. Grub-1 works fine [06:05] maybe somebody knows the packet name for grub4dos? [06:05] *package [06:12] San_IL: have you tried latest 16.04.2 iso for lubuntu on your old machine? [06:12] yes, running right now [06:13] San_IL: consider a new !bug perhaps for your error on grub2? [06:14] I never done it before, maybe you can point me where can I post the bug? [06:15] !bug | San_IL [06:15] San_IL: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. [06:15] thank you, will do. [06:17] San_IL: maybe usefull aswell? https://askubuntu.com/questions/397485/what-to-do-when-i-get-an-attempt-to-read-or-write-outside-of-disk-hd0-error [06:22] Hmm, thanks, will try these options [06:43] look at that-------> [06:51] what it the latest version of kernel in ubuntu 16.04.2 [06:52] i read in the release notes that ubuntu 16.04 i based on linux kernel 4.4. nut when i check by it says this "4.8.0-56-generic? [06:53] i read in the release notes that ubuntu 16.04.2 is based on linux kernel 4.4. but when i check by it says this "4.8.0-56-generic? [06:59] What exactly are you checking? Is it a local ubuntu 16.04.2 install? [06:59] yes [06:59] i have checked by this command "uname -r" [07:00] is it a fresh install or what? [07:00] its not afresh install [07:00] i have upgraded by system from 16.04.1 [07:00] hi [07:02] rolandbeowulf: previously i was using 16.04.1. today i uprade my system and i see that happened after the upgrade. [07:04] hmm, you're only supposed to see 4.8 installs on *new* installations [07:04] at least from what i know [07:05] but i have not installed new copy. i have installed 16.04.1 15 days before now. [07:05] That is odd, perhaps the documentation is out of date? [07:06] rolandbeowulf: what is the version of your kernel. will u please check it if u are using 16.04.2 [07:06] Can't help you there i'm afraid, i'm on 17.04 [07:06] ok. np:) [07:07] is anybody using 16.04.2? [07:08] 16.04 can use 4.4 4.8 or 4.10 [07:08] Ben64: why? [07:08] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/RollingLTSEnablementStack [07:08] This probably wont solve whatever you need to to solve, but it might be worth throwing up a 16.04.2 VM and checking the kernel version [07:09] Ben64: the release notes says that 16.04 is based on 4.4 [07:09] read the link i just posted [07:10] rajivmars: the 4.8.x kernels are from xenial-updates, nothing out of the ordinary.. [07:14] Ben64: thanks for sharing that link. now i understand why its showing 4.8 instead of 4.4. [07:24] turning on my laptop first time after turn off mode ,everything works good until i plugged in or plugged out, whenever i plugged in or unplug first time after turn on the, brightness suddenly goes to 95%. why is this happening? how to figure it out? [07:36] I'm having trouble expanding variables with spaces in bash files to run using rsync. If I echo the command from the bash script I can copy and paste it into terminal and it works, but as a command it fails, Can someone help with this please? eg NEWEST='/mnt/3tb/test/test2/' or NEWEST="'/mnt/3tb/test/test2/'" or NEWEST='"/mnt/3tb/test/test2/"' [07:36] first one is right, the other two are wrong [07:37] J3553: What's the command that fails, and what is the exact error message? [07:37] its in a bash file. I will pastebin it [07:41] Hi folks, i have a problem with the hash of https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/xenial/current/xenial-server-cloudimg-amd64.squashfs. It dosn't match. Can anybody confirm this problem? [07:43] besders: looks like you're correct [07:44] mh, thank you for the quick response [07:45] geirha: https://paste.ee/p/zQnHJ So if I copy and paste the echo as a command, it works: eg: rsync -aPAXxSunv --exclude='/proc /sys /dev /tmp /var/run /var/lock /media /mnt /root /home' --delete --delete-excluded --link-dest='/mnt/3tb/test/test1/' '/mnt/3tb/test/test2/' '/mnt/3tb/test/test3' But the expanding of the actual command in the script fails. [07:45] J3553: You failed to quote the variable expansions [07:46] J3553: And the EXCLUDES need to be an array [07:47] geirha: ok so can you please give me an example? [07:47] J3553: excluding=( /proc /sys /dev ); rsync ... "${excluding[@]/#/--exclude=}" --delete ... "$newest" "$backupname" [07:47] J3553: And you should make the variable names lower case to avoid accidentally overriding special shell variables or environment variables [07:49] so the way you suggest does that mean rsync will try to use the exclude paths as an array? [07:50] "${excluding[@]/#/--exclude=}" will expand each element of the array as a separate argument, with --exclude= prepended to each, so in the example it ends up "--exclude=/proc" "--exclude=/sys" "--exclude=/dev" [07:51] hello! Today after the boot I had a surprise: all of the gnome-shell extensions seem to be enabled via gsettings, but are disabled instead. gnome-tweak-tool is not able to enable them (they're all greyed out!). What can it be? Thanks... (screenshot of gnome-tweak-tool: https://pasteboard.co/27tX67uqU.png ) [07:56] geirha: It seems to have gone from bad to worse :-/ https://paste.ee/p/BWJA8 [07:57] J3553: You didn't apply my suggestion. The most important part is the quotes [07:58] J3553: $newest is wrong, "$newest" is right [07:58] I tried with the quotes as well and it failed [07:59] ahhh ok [07:59] thanks [07:59] J3553: On the actual command, or just the echo? note that echo's output will be useless [08:01] geirha: This is the resulting command: [08:01] rsync -aPAXxSunv --exclude=/proc --exclude=/sys --exclude=/dev --exclude=/tmp --exclude=/var/run --exclude=/var/lock --exclude=/media --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/root --exclude=/home --exclude=/.snapshots --delete --delete-excluded --link-dest=/mnt/3tb/test/test1/ /mnt/3tb/test/test2/ /mnt/3tb/test/test3 [08:01] jackdt: those gnome-shell extensions are under your $HOME dir? anything being reported when you run gnome-tweak-tool in a terminal? [08:02] glitsj16: some of them are system-wide (installed via apt, no custom repos), other are under $HOME/.local subdirs. gnome-tweak-tool (even with --verbose) shows nothing [08:03] What I don't understand is why they can't be enabled (this means that gnome-tweak-tool knows a system setting which forbids the enabling) [08:03] J3553: http://sprunge.us/WUNB [08:03] jackdt: on which Ubuntu version are you seeing this? I'm using GNOME 3.22 on 16.04 [08:04] glitsj16: I'm on 17.04 with Gnome 3.24.2 [08:05] jackdt: I don't think gnome-tweak-tool cares about where the extensions reside, at least not to enable/disable.. it won't let you remove system-wide ones installed via apt (that's normal behavior).. anything different when using gnome--shell-extension-prefs? [08:07] glitsj16: /facepalm you see that little switch in the upper right corner of the view? [08:07] jackdt: :) [08:07] i do :p [08:07] An update must have disabled all the extensions at once u.u [08:07] switched them on [08:08] jackdt: that could throw-off anyone, an update isn't supposed to change you're settings.. [08:09] indeed [08:09] i've seen that happen on gnome 3.22 too on Ubuntu [08:09] Honestly I'm on Ubuntu as a company's directive... I'm usually on Fedora (no hurt feelings xD) [08:10] Hi all. Any iPhone users here? I'm on 16.04.2 LTS, and am considering purchasing an iPhone. Wondering how easy it is to copy photos taken on my iPhone over to my Ubuntu laptop. And if possible, would I be able to copy MP3 files onto the iPhone for listening? Thanks. [08:10] oh my feelings aren't linked with canonical in any particular way.. using archlinux as daily driver myself.. although I miss compiz, worked rather snappier than GNOME's mutter [08:14] glitsj16: I love gnome-shell's workspace... most of my collegues don't like it, but I find it a "source of focus" [08:15] jackdt: indeed, I'm used to it by now, never expected GNOME to become so central (again) on Ubuntu [08:19] geirha: awesome. Thankyou that works. [08:20] geirha: However, I do not think it will work when directories have spaces in them. [08:21] as eg: "$newest" expands to the following without quotes: /mnt/3tb/test/test2/ === andyhuzhill1 is now known as andyhuzhill [08:24] J3553: where do you see spaces in /mnt/3tb/test/test2/? :) [08:27] J3553: test with a small sample perhaps to make sure, but I'm pretty sure geirha's quoting style is solid, that's why he quoted "$newst".. === kilobyte_ch_ is now known as kilobyte_ch [09:02] *bump* Hi all. Any iPhone users here? I'm on 16.04.2 LTS, and am considering purchasing an iPhone. Wondering how easy it is to copy photos taken on my iPhone over to my Ubuntu laptop. And if possible, would I be able to copy MP3 files onto the iPhone for listening? Thanks. [09:04] everson: honestly, it's not easy most of the time [09:06] everson: I'm not sure there is a simple way to transfer MP3s. My wife has to boot into Windows to do this === dreamon_ is now known as dreamon [09:07] everson: IIRC, you can copy photos (but we just send them to my nextcloud server) [09:22] how do i remove line 5 and 8 - https://pastebin.com/yuKXXC3n [09:24] mcphail, Ben64 thanks for the feedback. I guess getting MP3s onto the iPhone isn't super important. It's more a want than a need. Being able to copy photos off of the iPhone and onto Ubuntu, however, is a must. But from what I can see online, this is now fairly straight forward with 16.04 - I simply plug the phone into the USB and it automatically detects it and opens its contents. [09:26] anyone? [09:26] presumably that is not how you enable a port? [09:43] hi, is there to figure out what is holding userspace? i have a 3.4 minutes boot time [09:43] and all 3 minutes is for userspace... [09:44] use systemd-analyze [09:45] are static versions of the libraries distributed under some special package name, on ubuntu? [09:45] e.g., libjpeg.a [09:46] i don't think there's a general rule [09:46] i have used it, sum of all the time written in there get's me to about 30 seconds. what is the other 2 minutes! :) i had ntp and nmbd services disabled, they aren't showing in the result but boot time is still the same :( [09:46] everson: just bear in mind that Apple have been openly hostile towards any attempt to use their devices from outwith their controlled ecosystem. Most open source devs have given up trying to reverse-engineer the obstructions. So Ubuntu support for the device may be disappointing [09:46] and in most cases packets will only ship .so's [09:46] aha [09:47] so i if i want to link against libjpeg.a, i probably have to build it myself? [09:48] any *.a files will be in the corresponding -dev package [09:48] let me check [09:48] indeed [09:49] libjpeg-turbo8-dev [09:49] yes, i stand corrected [09:49] but i have it [09:49] and locate can't find libjpeg.a.. [09:50] any suggestions? [09:50] locate's database hasn't been updated yet [09:50] no i mean i already had it [09:51] still, probably installed after last update of locate's database [09:53] hm, it's indeed there [09:59] Thanks mcphail appreciate the advice. I'm probably going to get an Android phone instead. Transferring photos is a key requirements and I don't want to have to hack around each time iOS is updated. I know it's off topic, but I'm looking for a compact smartphone with decent battery. Are you using an Android device? And if so, is the Ubuntu integration good? [10:01] everson: yeah offtopic, might wanna try #ubuntu-offtopic for that [10:01] Ben64, ok noted, thansk [10:01] but not sure what you mean by compact [10:02] Ben64, about the size of an iPhone SE (120x60x10) but yeah I'll ask in offtopic channel :) [10:36] glitsj16: Thanks, Sorry was pulled away. I did a test comparison. You and geirha are right :-) It expands to include it in '' if the path has a space, but if not it does not expand to have the ''. Seems strange to me that it doesnt expand to '' all the time, but it definitely works. [10:37] geirha: Thanks for your help. Script works well :D [10:59] been stuck on this screen for about 10mins. Progress bar is still moving tho [10:59] https://i.itsosticky.com/lp5d0l.jpg [11:00] something wrong or is this usual? === BlackDex_ is now known as BlackDex [11:02] Hi, when having something along 'APT::Periodic::Enable "0";' in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/file: upon removing that file, do I need to restart unattended-upgrades.service or anything to make those changes effective? [11:03] karosshiiii: 10 minutes is quite much, assuming you are not booting a potato. Pressing ESC should show you what is behind the splash [11:04] thx, 3.4ghz i7. Checking the disc for problems now but getting the same screen. will try esc [11:04] karosshiiii: you can try editing the boot options and removing "quiet splash" to see what actually happens during boot [11:05] karosshiiii: depending on what GPU you have you may need to use... [11:05] !nomodeset [11:05] A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter [11:08] J3553: This should help on understanding the issue http://mywiki.wooledge.org/Arguments [11:18] Hiyas all === lunagirl_ is now known as lunagirl [11:35] I need to install java 6 on ubuntu 16.04 alongside java 8. I have successfully done this on one machine. On the other it has dependency failures that I cannot resolve without uninstalling one java version. Any pointers? [11:38] fish-guts, you installed 6 on xenial from ppa:webupd8team/java ? [11:40] ioria, nope directly downloaded the package fro launchpadlibrarian [11:40] fish-guts, ah [11:40] fish-guts, no idea then [11:40] fish-guts, maybe paste the erros you got [11:41] openjdk-8-jre-headless:amd64 (8u131-b11-0ubuntu1.16.04.2) breaks tzdata-java and is installed. [11:48] !info tzdata-java xenial [11:48] Package tzdata-java does not exist in xenial [11:49] Hi, with this partition setup - https://pasteboard.co/1m2F7r88.png - If I want to increase me /boot partition (as I'm tired of not being able to install kernel updates etc.), is it doable via gparted livecd? [11:52] after creating a new connection with networkmanager, where is the configuration stored? [11:53] tabmow: doable, but a pain. you'd have to shrink your logical partitions, and the lvm partition, and the extended, then increase boot. best to just reinstall if you can and make boot bigger from the start. 1g minimum. [11:53] QUESTION: is there a fundamental difference between running a binary from within the localised path eg : "/somedir$ binaryName" or running it with [./] as "/someDir$ ./binaryname " ? [11:53] Tabmow: tbh i never install separate /boot any longer. i make a /root of 32G and then separate for /home, /opt, etc. as needed. [11:54] Lighthammer: no [11:54] ioria, as I said, it works fine on one machine, that what dazzles mes [11:54] *me [11:55] yep, but idk your ather machine setup ... [11:55] *other [11:55] identical OS, 16.04.2 [11:55] ubone: /etc/networkmanager [11:55] but different cpu type (Intel i7 vs AMD64) [11:56] scottjl, yeah - most my data is on my NAS so reinstalling won't be a big pain. Maybe it's worth it. Unfortunately I went with the 'default' and that is what it gave me. I know it's not best practice but 1 big / partition would probably be easiest for me tbh. [11:56] Tabmow, you can, for now, purge some kernels ... and get updates [11:57] Tabmow: yeah. unfortunately the default pretty much sucks. i run hundreds of production servers in a commerical environment with 32G / and have no issues. never worry about running out of space in /boot, / /usr etc. only things that get broken out from that are special-need cases. [11:58] having /boot separate partition is a hold-over from needing binaries in the first 2G for old crap bioses that couldn't handle it. [11:58] I'll try a different approach - i'll remove openjdk 8 and install oracle java, maybe it'll work then [11:58] scottjl: does grub support /boot being in a volume group? [11:58] fish-guts, or try the ppa [11:59] akik: i think so but not 100% sure. i don't use LVM. my / are straight up plain 32G partitions. i save LVM/ZFS for data drives [11:59] scottjl, yeh, understandable. [11:59] fish-guts, can you paste apt-cache policy tzdata-java ? [11:59] ioria, true - I will do. [12:00] ioria, https://pastebin.com/rYwusbM1 [12:08] ioria, nm, i got it working by installing oracle java 8 and opendjk-6 [12:08] thanks for your help :) [12:08] fish-guts, ok [12:08] fish-guts, np [12:17] My friend has Ubutnu 15.04 and wants to upgrade to 16.04 but he says computer tells him upgrade is not supported. [12:17] !eolupgrade | blackdalek [12:17] blackdalek: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades [12:21] thanks [12:23] scottjl, ioria: looks better - http://paste.ubuntu.com/24916702/ - :) [12:23] Tabmow, yeah [12:24] think i missed something there. but you're welcome. lol [12:25] Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on [12:25] /dev/sda1 236M 59M 165M 27% /boot [12:25] :) [12:25] ah you cleaned out old kernels [12:26] Deleted all the old rubbish - I'll add a pre-step to my update scripts to delete all old kernels besides the running one and last previous kernel. That way I shouldn't need to worry about it. [12:27] Although I still might update to 17.04 soon so in that case I'll do a fresh install and setup my partitions properly. [12:28] or delay 4 months and go to 17.10. ;-) [12:29] Haha true, I'm on 16.04 now cos as I get older I'm more, if it ain't broke don't fix it! [12:30] So I'll probably be here for another few years haha [12:30] Hi guys, got issues with SSL handshake where target host has ".local" string in domain name, could this be the cause ? [12:31] i have ubuntu 16.04 and when i am trying to use wifi it stops working evry some minute i am not sure how many minute but in cable it woks proporly is there any method to fix? [12:34] interesting networking development here for Artful 17.10 https://www.pastebin.ca/3834265 [12:41] i am using ubuntu 16.o4 but the wifi stops suddenly aftr some minute wred connections is works perfectly except wifi is ther any method to fix [12:44] Hey, I just did: rm /bin/sh & cp /bin/bash /bin/sh [12:44] is this going to break my system on reboot? [12:44] s/&/&&/ even [12:45] Now why would you do that? [12:45] isene: /bin/sh has no completion... [12:47] But why not leave it and make bash your working shell whenever you need completion? [12:47] dostoyevsky: /bin/sh is a symlink to /bin/dash on Ubuntu systems... but I agree thats a very weird thing to do. [12:47] isene: I am just used to do ``sudo sh'' when I want to install something [12:48] You should "re-symlink" it to dash [12:48] so I don'T want to relearn it for just ubuntu [12:48] dostoyevsky: What do you install using sudo sh?? [12:48] Just make an alias for "sudo sh" in your bashrc, then [12:49] ^^^What Pici asked :-O [12:51] Pici: Right now I had to fix the python installation... because normal users didn't have rights to go to /usr/local/lib/python2.7/ [12:52] it seems that once you restrict your umask to 077 a lot of install scripts will just reuse it when installing new system-wide software... [12:52] my hosts file doesn't help me to resolve a domain [12:53] i've insert ip and domain into hosts. get a reboot. still solves from remote [12:53] nsswitch's relevant line is "hosts: files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns" [12:54] HI guys. URXVT terminal automatically inserts "~" symbol at random. Anyone know why this would happen :? [12:55] dostoyevsky: normal users of course don't have access to /usr/local/lib/python2.7/, and if you're installing scripts there you're doing things the wrong way. Python packaging really shouldn't intermingle with OS packaging. Use virtualenvs or have users install to their home (pip install --user ...) [12:58] ~~~~ ...Since sending my last message URXVT has automatically added those 4 symbols by itself. Is there any way to stop it from happening :? [13:04] Hi, i am having issues with too many open files. How would i go about closing stale file descriptors instead of restarting the server? [13:12] I have created configs with snapper (distro Ubuntu) however, I want to stop some of them auto running. I have put 'TIMELINE_CREATE="no"' into the respective configs but they keep making new snapshots. Any guesses as to what I am doing wrong? [13:17] Can someone please execute "echo $(which java | sed 's/bin\/\java/bin/g')/../" and give me the output, I'm not on Ubuntu myself and I wanted to test my java jdk detector. === olmari_ is now known as olmari [13:22] dw found it. it was in there twice, also under "#create hourly snapshots" [13:23] Hi, when having something along 'APT::Periodic::Enable "0";' in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/file: upon removing that file, do I need to restart unattended-upgrades.service or anything to make those changes effective? [13:29] hi [13:45] hi all, i am getting a black screen whilst booing, with a fresh install of 16.04LTS on a USB stick, I don't even see grub! The first thing i see is the login sceen, no matter which drivers I try! I also tried editing the grub config with nomodeset instead of splash and quiet kernel options ...any other ideas? [13:48] Meliorator: ok could be aa faulty usb [13:48] Meliorator: the usb itself, or your burn of contents of the iso to it [13:49] oh [13:49] put that to side [13:49] you already installed [13:49] Meliorator: or wait no y9ou didn't its the live usb ? [13:49] if it's a usb stick, and your booting live session make a new one, and grub won't show on that anyway. just plymouth etc [13:50] if its a real install, could just be a bad install, or realted to your hardware [13:53] Meliorator: try pressing left shift during boot. [13:54] Meliorator: until you see notification in top left side of screen saying "entering grub" [14:10] Hey, I need to ask something about Xubuntu ? is anybody there? [14:11] !ask | vipulgupta2048 [14:11] vipulgupta2048: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [14:11] ! [14:12] On my login screen,there are 2 options indicating options Xfce session and Xubuntu session . What is the difference [14:12] ? [14:14] vipulgupta2048, https://askubuntu.com/questions/296597/what-is-the-differences-between-xfce-session-and-xubuntu-session [14:17] ioria,yes I read that,already but I wanted to ask if there is any difference except the appearance ? Are any features or settings different ? [14:18] Personally I felt they are the same,I had the xubuntu session more customised. [14:19] vipulgupta2048, i can't tell for sure, maybe you can add some details .... [14:20] vipulgupta2048, i mean, what's your issue ? [14:21] No issue, I was just thinking which is better and so on. [14:22] vipulgupta2048, i see [14:23] vipulgupta2048, if you have low ram, choose xfce [14:24] ioria,No ram is not an issue. [14:25] My issue was the battery life so switched from Ubuntu to Xubuntu. [14:26] vipulgupta2048, disable some services, low the brightness, use the integrated card, .... so on [14:27] vipulgupta2048, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/improve-battery-life-linux [14:28] ioria,after I switched to Xubuntu for battery life only. Now everything is fine. My system gives about 3hours of uptime. [14:28] vipulgupta2048, ok [14:29] Honestly I tried everything to conserve and extend battery life in Ubuntu but nothing showed a appreciable change. [14:30] I like Xubuntu better. More customisable, lighter. [14:30] vipulgupta2048, yeah, xfce is great, the support term is shorter, btw [15:16] hello everyone... hi have installed ubuntu 16.04 LTS on my lenovo thinkpad ... but the wifi is too slow.. i mean i get max up to 1 mbps.. though on my mac i get up to 16 mbps.. could that be any driver problem? [15:18] ok, can someone tell me how to run quagga's bgpd on ubuntu ? installed it, added bgpd.conf, service bgpd start and nothing [15:20] Onepamopa: is there anything in its logs/the syslog? [15:21] bgpd.service: Unit is bound to inactive unit zebra.service. Stopping, too. [15:21] I don't need zebra [15:22] I've run quagga on freebsd w/o zebra [15:23] so how do I exclude zebra ? [15:28] hello friends... any one know a fix for slow internet on ubuntu 16.04 LTS [15:29] its just 540 kbps.. [15:29] or is there a newer version of ubuntu where all such wifi problems are fixed [15:36] nchambers, I removed the before/after sh*ts from the .service file, now it starts, creates a session, receives some announces, but doesn't send its own [15:36] I tried connecting via telnet and remove / add announces - the log doesn't show anything [16:08] Hi, on ubuntu 16.04 what is responsible for running /etc/init.d stuff? [16:09] as I understand only systemd is used but something is executing stuff in /etc/init.d I'm guessing it is a particular unit file [16:10] Rotwang: SystemD plus a compatibility layer to fallback with oldstyle init.d stuffs (sysv, upstart) if init files haven't been migrated over yet [16:10] Rotwang: depending on the context, /etc/init.d isn't used at all [16:10] at least AIUI [16:10] Rotwang: when the initscript sources lsb-init-functions (or something similar) it ends up jumping into systemd [16:12] nacc: thanks, I'll look into that [16:12] Rotwang: /lib/lsb/init-functions is the sourced file [16:12] I tried sudo apt-get install oracle-java8-installer but got the error : http://paste.ubuntu.com/24917905/ [16:13] glachas: not an ubuntu package, ask the repository owner [16:15] hi. how can i write a *.imgc raw hdd image to my usb drive? [16:15] hello, using ubuntu 14.04. How come system monitor shows network traffic on wireless and nethogs is not? I have constant traffic downloading according to system monitor of 35KB who is lying?? [16:15] kempo: sudo dd if=/path/to/img of=/dev/sdX bs=4M && sync [16:16] Anyone ever use live555ProxyServer? Does anyone know if that is truly just proxying packets, or if its transcoding or muxing? [16:16] EriC^^: this doesnt work for imgc files [16:16] whyever. [16:19] kempo, if it's binary data it will work with dd, just make sure you have source and target paths correct in the command [16:19] kempo: i don't think an imgc file is a 'raw hdd image'. What generated it? [16:21] kempo: 'HDD raw copy tool'? [16:21] I use ssh -w to build a ptp link. With Ubuntu 16 i haven't had much luck. Establishes, but I can't ping across it. Any new security or restrictions I"m not considering? [16:21] also connecting as root (testing) [16:23] nacc: yes [16:24] kempo: if it's a filesystem or a partition table + partitions and filesystems it should work with dd [16:24] any1 from India? [16:25] kempo: http://www.cryer.co.uk/file-types/i/imgc.htm specifically says to use the tool to restore it to a drive [16:25] EriC^^: i think they would need to tell the generating tool not to compress, potentailly they didn't [16:26] kempo: then again, it says this is a windows utility ... [16:26] uxfi: not relevant in this channel [16:26] nacc: oh i see [16:26] nacc: hm ... lame .. [16:26] sorry im new here [16:27] kempo: not sure why, if you're on ubuntu, you wouldn't just use dd to create a disk copy [16:27] kempo: as in, why did you choose to make a imgc file? [16:27] uxfi: it's fine, just ask a support question if you have one [16:43] hello all, what is these day's the best to use for virtual machines ? [16:46] yellabs-r2: polls are for other channels. do you have a support question? [16:46] bump, using ubuntu 14.04. How come system monitor shows network traffic on wireless and nethogs is not? I have constant traffic downloading according to system monitor of 35KB who is lying? [16:48] polls ? the question was very simple, whats the best software for virtual machine - hypervisor [16:48] yellabs-r2: 'best' is a poll. [16:48] hmm [16:49]