[02:15] <duflu> jbicha, I could not find the scrollback of when you mentioned it but is this sufficient?... https://git.launchpad.net/~bluetooth/bluez/commit/?h=artful&id=7c061d08e3eb1162b6c8113d92780b49ad1ff00f
[02:16] <duflu> Or was it someone else?..
[02:40] <jbicha> duflu: that's fine but could you use https for both vcs lines to avoid lintian warning vcs-field-uses-insecure-uri
[02:41] <duflu> jbicha: Sure, I was wondering why people do that
[02:45] <jbicha> it's perhaps a subtle way to encourage us all to switch to git since some vcs can't use https :(
[02:59] <duflu> jbicha: Not a problem. We might want to do another "no change" release though to update those fields in the archive. Maybe
[03:27] <smacz[m]> hello all, looking at the kernel that's installed on the desktop, it's 4.4.0-47-generic. IIRC I'm looking for 4.4.0-81 to patch the stack clash vuln. But apt list --upgradable doesn't show any kernels. What am I missing?
[04:54] <smacz[m]> linux-image-virtual gave me what I needed.
[05:58] <didrocks> good morning
[05:58] <duflu> Morning didrocks
[06:31] <flexiondotorg> didrocks duflu Morning
[06:32] <duflu> Hi flexiondotorg
[06:32] <didrocks> hey flexiondotorg, duflu!
[06:33] <didrocks> flexiondotorg: you got your vala packages NEWed, nice!
[06:33] <flexiondotorg> It's is cloudy and cool this morning :-)
[06:33] <flexiondotorg> didrocks Oooh. Really? I'll go and check.
[06:33] <didrocks> it's going to be 37°C today
[06:34] <didrocks> already 27°C (inside and outside, couldn't get cooler)
[06:35] <flexiondotorg> didrocks Where are you seeing those packages? Bugs unchanged and they are not in the artful new queue.
[06:35] <flexiondotorg> didrocks Heck 37°C!
[06:36] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[06:36] <didrocks> flexiondotorg: well, they are not in the new queue, so I thought they got acked, correct?
[06:36] <flexiondotorg> oSoMoN Morning
[06:36] <duflu> Hi oSoMoN
[06:36] <didrocks> flexiondotorg: you didn't update them?
[06:36] <didrocks> upload*
[06:36] <oSoMoN> hey flexiondotorg, duflu, didrocks!
[06:36] <didrocks> hey oSoMoN
[06:36]  * duflu just realized...
[06:37] <flexiondotorg> didrocks I just filed the bugs and provided build in the PPA.
[06:37] <didrocks> ah, you don't have upload rights at all?
[06:37] <flexiondotorg> I only have upload right for packages in the Ubuntu MATE package set.
[06:37]  * duflu wonders why Phoenix airport wasn't allowed to fly Airbus and Boeings in heat but Dubai does so normally in even greater heat (mid-50s)
[06:37] <didrocks> ok
[06:37] <didrocks> and so, they are not in the set yet
[06:37] <flexiondotorg> Correct.
[06:37] <didrocks> ok, will have a look at them today/tomorrow thus (as I guess it's too late for alpha)
[06:38] <flexiondotorg> Once these first upload to the archive exist I will request PPU for them.
[06:38] <didrocks> yep :)
[06:39] <flexiondotorg> didrocks Thanks. These package unlock new features in Ubuntu MATE 17.10. I really want to get some good testing feedback early :-)
[06:40] <didrocks> sure!
[06:52] <flexiondotorg> duflu I used to in aviation and the company I worked for had an office at Phoenix airport.
[06:53] <flexiondotorg> As I remember it, some of the smaller jets operating limits are exceeded in the summer months. But most modern Boeings and Airbus have far higher tolerances and can continue to operate.
[06:54] <flexiondotorg> If Airbus and Boeing are grounded it must be extremely hot there.
[06:54] <duflu> flexiondotorg, might also just mean a higher minimum length runway in heat
[07:03] <duflu> flexiondotorg: * shrug* It's old news and probably not true any more. As far as I can see it's winter here :)
[07:12] <andyrock> morning!
[07:13] <duflu> Hello andyrock
[07:13] <didrocks> hey andyrock
[07:14] <andyrock> does anyone know if there is a public CVE search API?
[07:27] <oSoMoN> hey andyrock
[08:00] <willcooke> morning all!
[08:00] <willcooke> Normality returns - it's raining \o/
[08:02] <Laney> morning!
[08:02] <willcooke> hi Laney
[08:03] <didrocks> hey willcooke, Laney
[08:03] <didrocks> lucky you
[08:04] <willcooke> still hot didrocks?
[08:04] <Laney> hey willcooke & didrocks
[08:10] <didrocks> willcooke: 36°c planned today
[08:10] <didrocks> it's already 27.4 inside
[08:10] <willcooke> didrocks, :((
[08:11] <Laney> any library or place with AC to work from?
[08:11] <didrocks> it's quite annoying for us, but I feel even worse for the little one
[08:11] <didrocks> Laney: I'm afraid that libraries will be crowded though
[08:11] <didrocks> may go to the departmental archives
[08:11] <didrocks> it's closer, I guess not as fancy for most of people
[08:13] <Laney> that sounds like a serious place
[08:14] <didrocks> yeah, it's more for people tracing old papers from the cities, births, and such
[08:14] <didrocks> 10 minutes walk and not really central :)
[08:16] <didrocks> the building is really fancy: http://numelyo.bm-lyon.fr/f_eserv/BML:BML_01ICO00101573f005f29475/preview_Source0.jpg
[08:16] <Laney> scary
[08:17] <Laney> I imagine the secret police working out of there
[08:17] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[08:17]  * seb128 tries another coworking space
[08:18] <seb128> also airco, nice to not be in a 30°C room to work
[08:18] <Laney> hey seb128
[08:18] <seb128> though there was so commute and train didn't have wifi
[08:18] <Laney> you good?
[08:18] <seb128> yeah!
[08:18] <Laney> where's this one?
[08:18] <seb128> you?
[08:18] <seb128> in Rotterdam
[08:18] <Laney> yeah good, it's not going to get over 20 here today
[08:18] <seb128> short walk from the train station
[08:18]  * Laney is O. K. ! with that
[08:19] <seb128> haha
[08:19] <Laney> nice
[08:19] <Laney> you commuter
[08:19] <Laney> ah man, I was trying to use the barrier to raise the launcher :'(
[08:20] <didrocks> :)
[08:20] <duflu> Morning seb128
[08:21] <seb128> hey duflu, how are you?
[08:22] <duflu> seb128: A bit unwell. But thanks for asking. Most of the day is done. You?
[08:23] <seb128> I didn't get enough sleep and didn't sleep well then due to the heat, but good otherwise
[08:23] <seb128> duflu, I hope you get better, you should call it a day and get some rest
[08:23] <duflu> seb128, I will think about it after verifying this SRI
[08:23] <duflu> STU
[08:23] <duflu> SRU
[08:23] <duflu> jeez
[08:24] <didrocks> ah, time to demote gnome-session! g-s finally published few minutes ago!
[08:25] <didrocks> (only the binary package, not the source one, don't be scared… it's going to be alright)
[08:26] <seb128> didrocks, things are going nicely it seems :-)
[08:26] <didrocks> yeah, I wonder if our archive doesn't feel Lyon's heat though seeing the autopkgtests queue on i386
[08:27] <didrocks> testing today's iso, which has both session, but ubuntu-session should be default
[08:27] <didrocks> tomorrow's iso won't have gnome-session installed
[08:27] <didrocks> (will test today's iso later)
[08:29] <seb128> I should do that as well
[08:29] <Laney> so much perl
[08:35] <duflu> Laney: Here's a better answer to your question from yesterday :)  http://www.bom.gov.au/wa/forecasts/perth.shtml
[08:46] <Laney> duflu: I'll take that as winter
[08:49] <jibel> didrocks, on today's iso, I've gnome gnome on wayland, ubuntu, ubuntu on wayland and ubuntu is the default
[09:02] <duflu> Sounds like no session should be called "Ubuntu"
[09:02] <duflu> because they are all Ubuntu
[10:06] <willcooke> jibel, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Html2Wiki
[10:06] <willcooke> jibel, export from GDocs as HTML and then convert
[10:07] <willcooke> jibel, that said - the LibreOffice route is probably just as good/bad
[10:07] <jibel> willcooke, thanks, I'll try that if it's better than odt -> wiki
[10:07] <willcooke> heh, we'll see
[10:52] <seb128> do we have artful images to use for autopkgtest-buildvm?
[10:52] <seb128> on artful it tells me it's falling back to downloading a zesty one
[10:55] <Laney> https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/artful/current/
[10:55] <Laney> yup
[10:56] <seb128> thanks, wonder why it doesn't find it
[10:56] <seb128> I should probably try the lxd way while I'm at it
[10:56] <Laney> what does it say?
[10:57] <Laney> what if you pass -r artful?
[10:58] <seb128> it says "cannot determine development release, failing back to latest stable"
[10:58] <seb128> -r artful seems to download the right thing
[10:58] <Laney> guessing distro-info -d doesn't work then
[10:58] <Laney> is your distro-info-data current?
[10:58] <seb128> that vm might be in a mixed state
[10:58] <seb128> so I guess that's it
[10:58] <Laney> that's what it's using
[10:59] <seb128> thanks Laney
[10:59] <Laney> yw!
[11:00] <Laney> ah, that notification worked
[11:00]  * Laney has an appointment in 1 hour ;-)
[11:00] <seb128> :-)
[11:00] <seb128> lunch is meeting you!
[11:00] <Laney> physio
[11:00] <Laney> then lunch
[11:01] <seb128> still your shoulder?
[11:01] <seb128> how did climbing go yesterday btw?
[11:01] <Laney> yeah
[11:01] <Laney> it's progressing
[11:01] <Laney> FFS
[11:01] <Laney> it was too hot for that
[11:01] <seb128> don't tell me, I played tennis for 1h30 hour in the sun at 5pm
[11:01] <seb128> was not the best idea
[11:01] <Laney> some of the holds were sliimmyyyy
[11:02] <seb128> I couldn't stand in the evening :p
[11:02] <Laney> just did some easy stuff then some exercises then came home for a bbq
[11:02] <Laney> heh
[11:02] <Laney> hope you stayed hydrated
[11:02] <seb128> I tried my best
[11:02] <seb128> I didn't have any headache or such so it was ok I think
[11:02] <Laney> nice
[11:03] <Laney> oh, I worked out what causes this gnome-software crash
[11:04] <Laney> it seemed random but it's when you search in the shell overview
[11:04] <Laney> phew
[11:05] <seb128> thanks for reminding me about gnome-software
[11:05] <Laney> oh yeah the xenial test
[11:06]  * Laney is reminded too
[11:06] <seb128> I need to try again that "clicking on install does nothing" I had with robert's update
[11:06] <seb128> see if I have the same issue with the archive version
[11:06] <seb128> and report it
[11:06]  * Laney is trying master
[11:12] <seb128> bah
[11:12] <seb128> works with the archive version
[11:13] <seb128> so regression and not local issue I guess
[11:42] <Laney> back in a bit
[11:50] <oSoMoN> chrisccoulson, after (too) much bisecting and testing, I’ve come to the conclusion that bug #1696965 started happening when swiftshader was turned on in the builds, and that google chrome is in fact also affected (although the symptoms manifest themselves less often)
[11:50] <ubot5`> bug 1696965 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "First renderer process doesn't render page for chromium 59.0.3071.86 in KVM" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1696965
[11:51] <oSoMoN> chrisccoulson, given this, I’m tempted to say this should not block us from publishing 59 to users
[11:51] <oSoMoN> what do you think?
[11:55] <oSoMoN> I've requested a source copy of 59.0.3071.109 to ppa:canonical-chromium-builds/stage
[12:02] <willcooke> Did we ever have conversations about Nvidia & Wayland on the trello board?  I can't find the card, but I'm sure we did.  About not runing Wayland if you've got an nvidia card.
[12:02] <willcooke> Might have been email
[12:03] <seb128> willcooke, https://trello.com/c/7jWI9yjo/136-make-a-decision-about-wayland ?
[12:04] <willcooke> seb128, thats the one!  I wonder why my search on wayland didnt work.  meh.   thanks1
[12:04] <seb128> yw
[12:05] <seb128> btw is there a way to tell trello to restrict the search to the current board?
[12:07] <willcooke> I just ctrl-f and search from the browser
[12:07] <willcooke> but that doesn't seem to work very well
[12:23] <GunnarHj> seb128: Is it time to unhide translations for artful and make artful the translation focus?
[12:23] <seb128> GunnarHj, did you see the emails you received?
[12:23] <GunnarHj> seb128: Yes.
[12:23] <seb128> what do you mean by "unhide"?
[12:24] <seb128> the focus I'm not sure yet, you are probably more familiar with that
[12:24] <seb128> I though we usually waited a bit more in the cycle so translators don't waste efforts on strings that are still changing?
[12:24] <GunnarHj> seb128: Re unhide: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/artful/+translations-admin
[12:25] <seb128> GunnarHj, that's somewhat related to the previous question I guess
[12:25] <GunnarHj> seb128: The timing is a trade-off, of course. OTOH it's probably a greater risk that translators waste time if the keep translating zesty.
[12:26] <seb128> my understanding is that we want to have the upstream translations in an export at least
[12:26] <seb128> GunnarHj, well, zesty is stale, translations are not waster, they are for the next langpack SRU
[12:26] <seb128> stale->stable
[12:27] <seb128> where translating strings that change means the translation is going to use for noone
[12:28] <GunnarHj> seb128: Ok, let's await the upstream translation exports. But as regards SRUs, we haven't done those for non-LTS release lately.
[12:29] <seb128> because we believe those are not useful?
[12:29] <seb128> or just by lack of manpower to drive the process?
[12:30] <GunnarHj> seb128: The latter. After all, they  only live for 9 months.
[12:30] <seb128> well translations are often not waster
[12:30] <seb128> wasted
[12:31] <seb128> they "live" in other series/longer most of the time
[12:31] <seb128> but one problem at the time
[12:31] <seb128> I'm fine unhidding translations if you think that's the right moment
[12:31] <seb128> can the focus be put on any serie?
[12:31] <seb128> we should maybe put it on the LTS?
[12:36] <GunnarHj> seb128: My belief is that the translators are generally aware of the fact that the strings are not frozen. So unhiding it early gives them the option to start working early - risking that they need to redo some translations - or wait until the string freezes.
[12:37] <seb128> the active translators are, non technical contributors or those who just want to translate some strings to help Ubuntu are not always, from what I saw in the french community
[12:37] <GunnarHj> seb128: The focus can be set to any series. AFAIK it has always been the dev release.
[12:37] <seb128> k
[12:37] <seb128> I though we used to switch focus to dev around beta
[12:38] <seb128> you are sure it has always been on dev all the time?
[12:38] <GunnarHj> seb128: 98,7% :)
[12:38] <seb128> lol
[12:38] <seb128> so now it's not on zesty (stable)?
[12:39] <GunnarHj> seb128: Yes it is, since nobody has changed it yet. That's the reason for that part of the question.
[12:39] <seb128> k, so it's not *always* on dev :p
[12:40] <GunnarHj> seb128: Ok, true. ;)
[12:40] <seb128> anyway
[12:40] <seb128> I think we can unhide translations
[12:40] <GunnarHj> seb128: Waiting til beta may be reasonable. I have no strong opinion.
[12:41] <seb128> and I'm going to trigger a first langpack export
[12:41] <seb128> let's see if things work
[12:41] <seb128> and then re-discuss the focus serie? (like next week)
[12:41] <seb128> how does that work for you?
[12:42] <GunnarHj> seb128: Just unhidden artful. Sounds good to me.
[12:42] <seb128> great
[12:42] <seb128> thanks GunnarHj
[12:42] <seb128> I try to get the export done tomorrow
[12:42] <seb128> well the langpack build I mean
[13:30] <Laney> willcooke: seb128: My understanding is that it does do that already
[13:31] <Laney> You have to set some options and update the initramfs to make it an option
[13:31] <seb128> I lost context since
[13:31] <seb128> Laney, what are you commenting about?
[13:31] <Laney> nvidia
[13:31] <seb128> oh
[13:34] <Laney> :)
[13:34] <Laney> survived the physio btw
[13:34] <Laney> I'm mostly discharged now
[13:34] <seb128> :-)
[13:34] <Laney> she told me to go climb more
[13:35] <Laney> and only come back if there is a problem
[13:35] <didrocks> sounds like advice going in your way ;)
[13:36] <Laney> yeah I just have to get over the anxiety while climbing
[13:36] <Laney> about re injuring it
[13:38] <seb128> so yeah, autopkgtest in lxc is nice, but n-m needs machine-isolation so that's not good enough
[13:38] <seb128> bah
[13:38] <seb128> is there a way to throw a package to some infra bit (ppa?) and have autopkgtest tried against it?
[13:40] <Laney> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ProposedMigration/#Testing_against_a_PPA
[13:41] <Laney> virt-qemu doesn't work?
[13:42] <cpaelzer> I usually use Bileto tickets which kind of wrap all that up (ppa + tests) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bileto
[13:43] <Laney> mmm
[13:43] <Laney> I don't actually know how to trigger britney runs from bileto
[13:43] <Laney> just happens when you change the status?
[13:43] <cpaelzer> Laney: yeah when you are happy with your tests and the buld you switch to approved and then it kicks britney
[13:44] <cpaelzer> output is then linked from the ticket and looks like an upodate_excuses snippet
[13:44] <cpaelzer> with working retry links if needed
[13:44] <oSoMoN> chrisccoulson, bug reported upstream: https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=735947
[13:44] <cpaelzer> and since it does all arch and all dependent jsut as migration would I kind of take it as one-shot-for-all
[13:47] <willcooke> jibel, cyphermox has a Cisco VPN device!  \o/
[13:48] <willcooke> cyphermox, re: n-m pending - would you have any time to look at it this week?
[13:48] <seb128> cyphermox, sorry my wifi had issues in that hangout, do you know if ^?
[13:49] <cyphermox> yes, I'm running the autopkgtest right now
[13:49] <willcooke> cyphermox, \o/ thanks!
[13:49] <cyphermox> clearly something in NM changed though, I'm not happy
[13:49] <seb128> cyphermox, just curious, how do you run those?
[13:50] <seb128> I tried in a vm and in autopkgtest lxc but without much luck
[13:50] <cyphermox> right now, autopkgtest -U --apt-pocket=proposed -s . -- qemu ~u/adt-artful-amd64-cloud.img
[13:50] <seb128> Laney, sorry I didn't see your reply earlier, thanks
[13:50] <seb128> ok
[13:50] <seb128> you need the qemu image
[13:50] <cyphermox> (so technically, it'll rebuild nplan, but heh)
[13:50] <seb128> which I was trying to avoid, it's slow to set up
[13:50] <cyphermox> bah, it should work in LXC too
[13:51] <Laney> someone's been happy on the retry button http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/n/nplan/artful/amd64
[13:51] <Laney> ...
[13:51] <seb128> I did one by error earlier, sorry
[13:51] <seb128> firefox awesome bar fail
[13:51] <seb128> I wanted the log page and I hit the retry page
[13:51] <seb128> which just retried on opening without asking any confirmation
[13:51] <jbicha> I did like 8 earlier, sorry
[13:51] <seb128> haha
[13:52] <Laney> :/
[13:52] <seb128> jbicha, it's obvious there is an issue with at least the mtu
[13:52] <seb128> retries are not going to work
[13:52] <Laney> it's not that helpful when the queue is so large to run several 45 minute tests
[13:53] <Laney> oh well :-)
[13:53] <Laney> machines don't hold a grudge
[13:53] <jbicha> right, we were caught up briefly before the perl upload
[13:54] <Laney> I might kill the seb128 one in the queue though ;-)
[13:54] <seb128> yes please do
[13:54] <cyphermox> no point in making many retries ever though, if it times out the first 2 (and about as many tests/the same tests), something's off enough that it won't be different.
[13:54] <Laney> 2017-06-22 13:54:30,557 - queue item: b'nplan {"requester": "seb128", "triggers": ["nplan/0.24"]}' (deleting)
[13:54] <seb128> as said it was an url error
[13:54] <seb128> thanks
[13:55] <cyphermox> and indeed the mtu issue seems like a genuine regression
[14:00] <willcooke> cyphermox, how are you testing mtus out of interest?  Pings of different sizes?
[14:01] <cyphermox> no, that's not necessary
[14:01] <cyphermox> netplan write a config that NM needs to apply; so after NM has stabilized we check that the kernel reports the right MTU
[14:01] <cyphermox> if the kernel lies, it's a kernel bug, not a netplan bug
[14:02] <willcooke> I see, thx
[14:03] <seb128> cyphermox, where is the config written?
[14:03] <seb128> wiki/google are not that useful at telling you that
[14:03] <cyphermox> /run/NetworkManager
[14:05] <seb128> thanks
[14:06] <seb128> I guess my config snippet was invalid since that's empty :p
[14:46] <seb128> cyphermox, should a config like http://paste.ubuntu.com/24925093/ work and result in some n-m config generated?
[14:46] <seb128> anyway wasted enough time today trying to get that working, I let you debug it, just curious at this point
[14:47] <willcooke> desktoppers - I've added a new tag to Trello called "GUADEC Topic" - please tag anything which needs to be talked about so we dont forget anything
[14:49] <seb128> willdo
[14:50] <kenvandine> willcooke, great
[14:51] <oSoMoN> ack
[14:53] <seb128> Laney proved that trello needs a "like" button ;-)
[14:54] <Laney> +1
[14:54] <Laney> :thumbsup:
[14:54] <seb128> indeed
[14:54] <seb128> showing the love to Didier's cards :-)
[14:57] <cyphermox> seb128: MTU is special in that so far we've been relying on systemd to apply the change (via udev) rather than NM, so it might not write anything in this case
[14:58] <seb128> cyphermox, oh ok, good to know
[14:58] <seb128> cyphermox, let me know when you figure out what's the issue, I'm curious now
[14:58] <seb128> just not familiar enough with netplan to be efficient debugging it
[15:02] <jibel> seb128, there is a 'voting' power-up
[15:03] <seb128> jibel, ah :-)
[15:03] <Laney> ah man, lots of those powerups look like they could be useful but you can only have 1 per time on the free tier
[15:04] <Laney> s/per/at a/
[15:09] <Laney> jbicha: did you look at graphene ftbfsing yet?
[15:12] <jbicha> Laney: not much yet, but I blame meson
[15:13] <Laney> when you see gtkdoc stuff failing to build, you can't help but get a little bit sad
[15:14] <Laney> hmm the last pass was with meson 0.40.1-1 though
[15:20] <jbicha> meson 0.41 broke some stuff (budgie-desktop still doesn't build) so that's why it's my first guess
[15:22] <Laney> autopkgtest is quite useful to test this kind of thing
[15:22]  * Laney adds --apt-pocket=proposed=src:meson
[15:23] <jbicha> add that where?
[15:25] <Laney> autopkgtest
[15:25] <Laney> yeah it's totally meson
[15:27] <Laney> JUSSIIIII
[15:28] <jbicha> if you want him to hear you, you could try #mesonbuild ;)
[15:29] <Laney> it's ok, I know how to find him
[15:29] <Laney> I have a big light that shines into the sky
[15:31] <Laney> (master works)
[15:31] <jbicha> graphene master?
[15:31] <Laney> meson
[15:52] <seb128> going back home, might be back online from the train if they have wifi
[15:52] <seb128> if not have a nice evening desktopers
[15:52] <willcooke> cya seb128
[15:53] <seb128> bye :-)
[15:58] <Laney> jbicha: going to upload the cherry-pick that fixes it, feel free to sync over with the next release
[16:06] <jbicha> thanks!
[16:07] <Laney> committed 6 hours ago
[16:07] <Laney> timely
[16:09] <jbicha> Laney: if you didn't upload yet, maybe it wouldn't hurt to cherry-pick https://github.com/mesonbuild/meson/commit/185808b too
[16:09] <jbicha> that one wasn't enough for budgie-desktop but it got the build further along
[16:10] <Laney> I already did it
[16:10] <Laney> it's really trivial to try meson from git btw
[16:10] <Laney> uninstall the distro package and symlink /usr/bin/meson to meson.py
[16:10] <Laney> so you can see if it's fixed in master
[16:14] <seb128> the train has wifi it seems!
[16:15] <Laney> wifi in de trein?
[17:11] <willcooke> night all
[17:18] <Laney> bye!
[17:27] <kenvandine> jbicha, flexiondotorg is trying to see what happens in MATE with gdm and is finding it's not working
[17:27] <kenvandine> jbicha, the service is starting but nothing on the vt
[17:27] <kenvandine> wondering if it could be bug 1632322
[17:27] <ubot5`> bug 1559576 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1632322 Ubuntu GNOME boots to black screen when using proprietary Nvidia drivers" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1559576
[17:28] <kenvandine> he's in virtualbox
[17:30] <jbicha> what version?
[17:31] <jbicha> and does he just see nothing on the log in screen or is that after he enters his password?
[17:36] <oSoMoN> good evening everyone!
[17:39] <kenvandine> jbicha, black screen
[17:40] <jbicha> it sounds like you are saying he can't reach the log in screen
[17:41] <jbicha> there's a bug with VirtualBox sometimes where it doesn't show gdm's log in screen, if you resize the window it may sort of show up
[17:41] <jbicha> but if he can log in "blind", that should work too
[17:41] <jbicha> once logged in, the display should work normally
[17:47] <flexiondotorg> jbicha OK, I'll imagine I can see a log in screen :-)
[17:47] <flexiondotorg> Or I just use qemu?
[17:48] <flexiondotorg> Which is typically what I use but I had a gash VM in virtualbox.
[17:48] <jbicha> if that is the issue you are experiencing, I'm hoping that the issue will be fixed when the VirtualBox drivers are upstreamed
[17:51] <jbicha> https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=VirtualBox-vboxvideo-Plans
[18:09] <kenvandine> flexiondotorg, so did resizing fix it?
[18:09] <kenvandine> if so... that was silly :)
[18:11] <flexiondotorg> I just have a tty telling me /dev/sda is clean.
[18:12] <flexiondotorg> I tried resizing the VM window. No change.
[18:12] <kenvandine> ok
[18:12] <flexiondotorg> I'm off to cook for my girls.
[18:12] <kenvandine> flexiondotorg, good night!
[18:12] <flexiondotorg> I'll be back later.
[20:36] <cyphermox> jbicha: I'm reluctant to change netplan for the NM 1.8 upload; it's starting to look a lot like NM regressed
[20:36] <cyphermox> I haven't dug into NM at all yet, but from the look of the netplan autopkgtests, it's as if NM is managing devices when it really shouldn't be
[20:44] <cyphermox> (if I stop NM altogether and rig the intergration tests from netplan to ignore it, the tests pass, and don't time out)
[21:01] <jbicha> cyphermox: I don't think I know enough about NM or netplan to be much help