[07:06] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:15] <EriC^^> morning all
[07:15] <lordievader> Hey EriC^^
[07:15] <EriC^^> hey lordievader
[07:15] <EriC^^> how are you?
[07:22] <lordievader> Doing good here, moving some data from disk to disk. How are you doing?
[08:08] <EriC^^> lordievader: doing good, thanks
[08:08] <lordievader> :)
[08:09] <EriC^^> :)
[08:10] <ducasse> morning EriC^^, lordievader
[08:10] <lordievader> Hey ducasse, how are you doing?
[08:11] <ducasse> ok, thanks, and you? enjoying summer?
[08:12] <lordievader> Meh, it is way to warm. Going to be 33 today, no airco at work -.-
[08:14] <EriC^^> hey ducasse
[08:14] <EriC^^> how are ou?
[08:14] <EriC^^> *you?
[08:14] <ducasse> lordievader: luckily, we rarely (if ever) get temps like that. here it's below 20 today.
[08:15] <lordievader> Yeah, it used to be rare here too...
[08:15] <ducasse> EriC^^: i'm fine, how are you doing? must be quite hot where you are?
[08:15] <lordievader> That is a nice temp, care to exchange?
[08:15] <ducasse> never ;)
[08:16] <EriC^^> ducasse: i'm doing good, yeah it's so-so here
[08:16] <EriC^^> not too hot though (yet)
[08:23] <lotus|artfulbox> quick jump in before work
[08:23] <ducasse> hi lotus
[08:23] <lotus|artfulbox> hey ducasse how r you mate
[08:24] <ducasse> i'm ok, just checking in
[08:24] <ducasse> soon heading out here
[08:24] <lotus|artfulbox> oh enjoy mate
[08:24] <CoderEurope> Heya sup ? lotus|artfulbox ?
[08:24] <lotus|artfulbox> im updating artfull box
[08:25] <lotus|artfulbox> CoderEurope, 17.10 helping bug out
[08:25] <CoderEurope> which buug\s ?
[08:26] <lotus|artfulbox> CoderEurope, all that i find :p
[08:26] <CoderEurope> lotus|artfulbox, any examples bubble up for me to view, then ?
[08:28] <CoderEurope> lotus|artfulbox, hello , you there ?
[08:28]  * CoderEurope sneezes
[08:47] <CoderEurope> he doesnot know :D
[08:54] <ducasse> maybe those updates were not entirely successful ;)
[08:54] <ducasse> gtg
[09:37] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[11:21] <ducasse> oerheks: fyi, the lubuntu alternate image lets you select whether or not to install a desktop. if you don't, it's basically the same as using the server image except that all the server stuff is not installed either. (afaik)
[11:23] <oerheks> not sure now, that is not how i read it, i think it is lubuntu with a textmode installer.
[11:27] <ducasse> yes, but you can select not to install the lxde stuff. it's one of the last steps, that's how i installed this laptop.
[14:32] <CoderEurope> Anyone have a go of "hypothes", yet ? https://octodon.social/users/22/updates/147446
[15:32] <brunch875> CoderEurope: I don't know if annotating the web would be such a hot idea. Especially since the main issue of misinformation is everyone being able to voice their opinion
[15:32] <brunch875> you'd basically get way too many clueless people annotating cluelessly
[17:58] <lotuspsychje> all the windows open, fresh air flowing in
[18:10] <brunch875> lotuspsychje: you mean 40°C «fresh» air coming in?
[18:11] <lotuspsychje> lol
[18:11] <lotuspsychje> its cloudy here after 34 degrees day, lemme holdon to my dream :p
[18:11] <brunch875> my sister told me she read on nytimes that the temperature of Spain (my country) will be over 35° for over 100 days yearly
[18:11] <lotuspsychje> its nearly a breeze
[18:12] <lotuspsychje> wow
[18:12] <brunch875> starting 2030
[18:12] <brunch875> time to migrate I guess
[18:12] <lotuspsychje> time to buy a pool
[18:12] <brunch875> I can't stand the heat
[18:12] <brunch875> I'd rather live inside a freezer
[18:12] <lotuspsychje> lol
[18:12] <brunch875> at least you can use _more blankets_
[18:13] <lotuspsychje> if its too much, cant stand it neither for sleep
[18:21] <lotuspsychje> hey BluesKaj
[18:21] <lotuspsychje> !info gnome-tweak-tool artful
[18:21] <ubot5`> gnome-tweak-tool (source: gnome-tweak-tool): tool to adjust advanced configuration settings for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.25.3-0ubuntu1 (artful), package size 183 kB, installed size 1067 kB
[18:22] <BluesKaj> hi lotuspsychje
[18:23] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, guess all you former unity guys have switched to gnome eh?
[18:23] <lotuspsychje> im testing this in gnome: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/06/tweal-tool-gnome-application-menu-top-bar
[18:24] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: right now im helping bug out ubuntu desktop 17.10 with gnome by default
[18:24] <BluesKaj> oh nice, always hated the panel at the yop
[18:24] <lotuspsychje> but all my other boxes still on unity xenial
[18:24] <BluesKaj> top even
[18:25] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: i think when 18.04 will hit the streets, its gonna be nicely tuned
[18:25] <brunch875> I must say I'm liking gnome so far
[18:25] <brunch875> builtin desktop recording
[18:25] <brunch875> redshift
[18:25] <BluesKaj> doesgnome still have the dash
[18:25] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: activities left
[18:25] <brunch875> you mean tapping alt?
[18:25] <brunch875> or you mean the big menu?
[18:26] <BluesKaj> yeah the launcher on the left
[18:26] <brunch875> I like how it works but I'd add a couple of improvements to it
[18:26] <BluesKaj> prefer everything in the panel at thje bottom
[18:26] <lotus|artfulbox> http://imgur.com/a/FjsQ1
[18:27] <brunch875> I wish I could close windows from there
[18:28] <lotuspsychje> that canonical desktop survey is promising, alot of users choose dash to dock
[18:28] <BluesKaj> not for me...I'm sticking with kde/plasma :-)
[18:28] <brunch875> I keep on hitting alt-f4 to close them but nothing happens
[18:28] <brunch875> BluesKaj: how's kde? I might jump over if it has more hotkeys
[18:28] <brunch875> I just highly dislike using the trackpad
[18:28] <lotuspsychje> a flavor for everyone
[18:28] <BluesKaj> brunch875, dunno i don't use hotkeys
[18:29] <BluesKaj> this is a dektop pc
[18:29] <brunch875> I also didn't use the mouse much when I was on the desktop
[18:29] <lotuspsychje> terminal and hotkeys?
[18:30] <brunch875> yeah, all the time
[18:30] <lotuspsychje> :p
[18:30] <brunch875> I'd say my favourite key is the escape key because of that
[18:30] <lotuspsychje> lol
[18:30] <brunch875> it cancels/closes almost everything
[18:31] <brunch875> I'm glad gnome kept that at least
[18:31] <BluesKaj> old one too 2008 vintage with some HW improvements, like 6G RAM and nvidia lower end gerforce 210, samsung EVO 250 ssd
[18:31] <lotuspsychje> nice
[18:31] <BluesKaj> amd 5200+ cpu , is the bottleneck I think
[18:32] <brunch875> gtx210?
[18:35] <BluesKaj> https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121422
[18:36] <BluesKaj> gotta use a lower end card due to the lower wattage PSU on this pc
[18:36] <Bashing-om> BluesKaj: Old 2007 vintage " Version: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5000+ " chugging right on along . A bot slow on a heavy DE :)
[18:37] <BluesKaj> Bashing-om, cool! :-)
[18:38] <lotus|artfulbox> my desktop still amd 3200+ lol
[18:38] <lotus|artfulbox> going like rocket
[18:39] <Bashing-om> BluesKaj: I tell the truth .. running a minimal install is just a tad bit slower on a hard drive as is xubuntu full install on a SSD .
[18:39] <BluesKaj> just like my vehicle ...a 2005 Ford Taurus  has 96K KM /60K miles on it ...runs fine so we're keeping it for a while longer
[18:43] <BluesKaj> my neighbours look sideways at it, but i don't have to make a 450buck montlhy payment on it for 7yrs or some such, like his brand new Ford F-150
[18:46] <BluesKaj> i haven't bought a brand new vehicle since '92 , and don't plan to next time either
[18:47] <BluesKaj> <---retired on fixed income
[18:48] <BluesKaj> Bashing-om, adding the ssd made the most difference speedwise
[18:49] <BluesKaj> i use the old hdd on the rpi3, works well
[18:50] <Bashing-om> BluesKaj: Well ! I drive a '82 Toyota PU - A miilopn miles or so on it .. When I die, bury me in it ! - beat and banged up - still reliably gets me from point A to point B :)
[18:51] <BluesKaj> oh yeah those toyotas a tough vehicles
[18:51] <BluesKaj> are
[19:14] <brunch> hmph I need a program to make annotations on pictures
[19:14] <brunch> but which :Þ
[19:25] <BluesKaj> think he's looking for shutter
[19:38] <lotuspsychje> bbl sleeptime
[19:50] <BluesKaj> Time to call it a day here too ...take care
[22:30] <daftykins> https://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-3339-1/
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[23:10] <Bashing-om> Do not play with fire ! ( and the kid sets the field ablaze )
[23:12] <nacc> s/and/as/ :)