[00:04] <om_henners> morning all - anyone else having issues with au.archive.ubuntu.com
[00:04] <om_henners> ?
[00:07] <Mathisen> seems down can even ping
[00:08] <Mathisen> but why not just archive.ubuntu.com
[00:11] <om_henners> closest mirror with standard install in the Aus region
[00:11] <om_henners> simple enough to add the mirros to /etc/apt/sources.list though
[00:13] <rolandbeowulf> So the archives down i guess?
[00:13] <rolandbeowulf> just cp the origional sources.list into sources.list.bak then change sources.list to backup sources i guess
[00:14] <om_henners> that’s the plan
[00:14] <rolandbeowulf> what alternative sources are there for now?
[00:15] <om_henners> more than anything I was just hoping that there was some page somewhere which had current archive health-checks
[00:15] <rolandbeowulf> yeah that would be pretty useful
[00:16] <rolandbeowulf> like a isitdownrightnow for package sources
[00:16] <rolandbeowulf> I remember installing debian last year and one of the au sources gave me a ton of crap
[00:16] <glitsj16> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[00:16] <om_henners> yeah, exactly
[00:20] <om_henners> glitsj16: thanks
[00:21] <glitsj16> om_henners: yw, sorry for not adding any more written info
[00:23] <om_henners> glitsj16: no worries - the list is handy
[00:24] <glitsj16> om_henners: indeed it is
[00:27] <Random1> hi, good evening folks :)
[00:28] <uxfi> Random1  hi 8chanz?
[00:28] <Random1> just wanted to get some advice from a simple lil question regarding installing ubuntu or a ubuntu variant (lubuntu) onto a tablet, which would have the best automatic driver support (touchscreen, etc.) for tablets or are they the same in that aspect / doesn't matter which ?
[00:33] <minimec> Random1: Well... I hope the #channel will not crash after my post, but the Microsoft surface 2 pro seems to be a good device for Linux...
[00:34] <Random1> yes it probably is
[00:34] <rolandbeowulf> do you mean which distro or which hardware?
[00:35] <Random1> distro
[00:35] <Random1> distro for automatic driver support out of the box (touchscreen, etc.)
[00:35] <Random1> or all the varients of ubuntu to the same out of the box for that pretty much?
[00:35] <glitsj16> Random1: hi, they are similar as far as driver support goes.. i guess the specific tablet specs are more important to decide which flavor is best suited
[00:36] <Random1> ok i couldn't find any info which distros had the most out of box driver support for tablets in general so i figured they might be mostly the same, thx
[00:37] <rolandbeowulf> afaik all offshoots of ubuntu use its codebase, so i guess you'd just have to look at what version of vanilla ubuntu the distro you're looking at uses
[00:39] <minimec> Random1: The problem with tablets is, that they normally are based on ARM architecture, which can be rather tricky... So you will probably have better chances of success with an intel based tablet.
[00:41] <Random1> ah
[00:41] <Random1> well in this case its a 64 bit intel i5
[00:41] <Random1> so its much the same as desktop pc mostly
[00:41] <Random1> even uses the intel processor based gpu
[00:41] <Random1> so other than the touchscreen and hardware keyboard its nothing special
[00:42] <Random1> but i see where ur coming from now
[00:44] <lilym> can i just make the mail notification icon readthe message count in gmail
[00:44] <lilym> without using thunderbird or geany
[00:49] <minimec> lilym: You could write a script that checks for new messages and use 'notify-send' to get a notification. That would be my approach. There are some tutorials for gmail and bash. https://linuxconfig.org/check-your-gmail-inbox-for-new-emails-with-bash-script
[00:58] <Mathisen> lilym, i can give you python script i use to check mail
[00:58] <Mathisen> 2 sec
[01:00] <Mathisen> lilym, https://ptpb.pw/OshT
[01:01] <Mathisen> it shows notification on desktop
[01:01] <Blue1> Hi,  I am having trouble exiting single user mode (init 1) on my 16.04 system.  rebooting, or setting the init level to 5 has no effect.  The system is dead.
[01:02] <Mathisen> checking gmail with just curl wont work nowdays
[01:03] <Mathisen> Oauth 2.0
[01:03] <Mathisen> = nightmare
[01:05] <Bashing-om> Blue1: systend run level 5 ' systemctl isolate graphical.target ' .
[01:07] <rolandbeowulf> Ive tried compiling the commodore VICE emulator on ubuntu 17.04 but i dont get any sound + the error "Did not find any uss device"
[01:08] <Ben64> rolandbeowulf: should check the help for the software
[01:08] <lilym> hmmmmm
[01:08] <lilym> i bet there's a thing i can install
[01:09] <lilym> Anyone use an actual email client?
[01:09] <lilym> I would usethunderbirdbutits conversation view is bad by default and the thread plugin is worse
[01:09] <Blue1> Bashing-om: let me try that thanks
[01:10] <rolandbeowulf> Ben64: yeah tried that, isn't much there just a list of commands for running the different emulators lol
[01:10] <Ben64> i mean forums or other methods of getting support
[01:12] <Bashing-om> Blue1: systemd run level 1 ' rescue.target ' .
[01:13] <glitsj16> lilym: what ubuntu version are you on? there's a python package for trusty called gm-notify that integrates with unity.. worth a shot even on more recent ubuntu versions as it mainly depends on python2
[01:13] <lilym> tight
[01:13] <glitsj16> lilym: https://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/gm-notify
[01:14] <lilym> unable to locate gm-notify oh well
[01:15] <lilym> lol can i pip install gm-notify
[01:15] <glitsj16> you'll need to download it from the above link and manually install the deb with sudo dpkg -i
[01:15] <lilym> o
[01:15] <lilym> ok thanks
[01:15] <Ben64> bad idea if you're not on 14.04
[01:16] <Blue1> Bashing-om: no that didn't work.  I am going to boot off an install disk, and check the file systems
[01:20] <Bashing-om> Blue1: Maybe of guidance : ' man bootup ' .
[01:22] <glitsj16> lilym: Ben64 has a good point, but there might be another alternative.. turns out gm-notify has a PPA supporting recent ubuntu versions, you might be better off trying that.. https://launchpad.net/~gm-notify-maintainers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[02:01] <Blue1> Bashing-om: nothing I have tried will exit single user mode on 16.04 I tried your earlier suggestions - but nope it's locked into single user mode.  init 5 starts the gui but then it drops back to single user mode
[02:03] <Bashing-om> Blue1: What is the issue prompting to boot to run level 1 ? Maybe we need to back up and regroup .
[02:07] <Blue1> Bashing-om: syslog shows an error message failed to create PolicyKit authority
[02:16] <Bashing-om> Blue1: That might be toufg to track down . Anything in the boot log ' journalctl -b -0 ' ?
[02:16] <Bashing-om> tough*
[02:17] <iMadper> Hey All. I'm trying to build a ubuntu image for an arm64 server. (The host is arm64 server running xenial as well). However I hot `E: Invalid Release file, no entry for main/binary-arm64/Packages` when I run `lb build`.
[02:17] <iMadper> I can't reproduce the same issue when I building a amd64 image.
[02:19] <Blue1> Bashing-om: it can't find jounralctl and if I search for it using apt-cache there is nothing to install
[02:19] <iMadper> I manually checked the release file and i'm pretty sure that there is a `main/binary-arm64/Packages` inside...
[02:20] <Blue1> journalctl
[02:23] <Bashing-om> Blue1: Huh ? .. what dustro and release is this ? "journalctl" is a part of systemd .
[02:24] <Blue1> Bashing-om: yup, but it's not there.  any way I manually looked at the boot log, and it is a zero length file.
[02:24] <arooni> trying to solve this 'Connection Failed: blueman.bluez.errors.DBusFailedError: Protocol not available' in bluez on ubuntu 16.04 when i try to connect to my echo dot via my t420 laptop... ideas?
[02:25] <Bashing-om> Blue1: Sorry, I do not know what to say in this event .
[02:33] <Blue1> Bashing-om: problem solved - it seemed it was having issues doing an nfs mount -- I removed the nfs from /etc/fstab and I am back up and running
[02:37] <Bashing-om> Blue1: You do good work :)
[02:43] <arooni> can anyone help me getting bluetooth working on ubuntu 16.04?  it was working fine on my t420 before i ran  sudo apt-get purge blueman bluez-utils bluez bluetooth ;; now even after reinstalling i see 'no bluetooth found ; plug in a dongle to use bluetooth'
[02:50] <CuChulaind> unzip that firewall it's upgrade time son: https://ibb.co/kod0YQ
[02:58] <frezy> hi, ive installed the postgresql packet but dont have a postgres cli... any idea whats going on?
[03:18] <bumblefuzz> if I'm ssh'd into another ubuntu machine, how do I play vlc videos on the remote machine using the cli?
[03:20] <hipp> bumblefuzz: nvlc
[03:20] <hipp> need the -Y switch on ssh session
[03:22] <bumblefuzz> sudo apt install nvlc?
[03:25] <hipp> comes with vlc
[03:25] <hipp> man nvlc
[03:27] <bumblefuzz> got it
[03:27] <bumblefuzz> ok
[03:27] <bumblefuzz> that's almost what I need
[03:27] <bumblefuzz> but in reverse
[03:27] <bumblefuzz> that played on my local screen
[03:27] <bumblefuzz> not on the server screen
[03:30] <bumblefuzz> what are the different vlc, qvlc, svlc, nvlc, rvlc, cvlc?
[03:31] <SchrodingersScat> !info mpv | bumblefuzz
[03:33] <bumblefuzz> ok, that's great
[03:33] <bumblefuzz> it does the same thing
[03:33] <bumblefuzz> how do I get the movie to play on the server screen
[03:33] <bumblefuzz> not my local creen
[03:33] <bumblefuzz> screen*
[03:33] <bumblefuzz> ???
[03:37] <ilyanov> hgghgh
[03:38] <uxfi> hello
[05:52] <vixivtech> I have an ubuntu 14.04 server running a framework that specifically needs php 5, I have everything installed but I can not find php-mod-mbstring
[05:52] <stranglerfish> hey, probs not the best place but i'm having trouble finding resources to ask: anyone know how i can get league of legends running on ubuntu 16.04?
[05:52] <vixivtech> should be sudo apt-get install php5-mbstring
[05:53] <vixivtech> but sudo apt-cache search mbstring comes up with no mbstring
[05:53] <hateball> !appdb | stranglerfish
[05:53] <vixivtech> running PHP 5.5.9-1ubuntu4.21
[05:53] <hateball> stranglerfish: iirc Lutris has a script for LoL
[05:54] <oerheks> php-mod-mbstring is part of libapache2-mod-php5 > https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5/5.5.9+dfsg-1ubuntu4.21
[05:55] <vixivtech> so why is the mbstring.so missing lol
[05:56] <vixivtech> that's already installed
[05:56] <vixivtech> libapache2-mod-php5 is already the newest version.
[05:57] <vixivtech> no mbstring.so on the entire system searching from /
[05:58] <oerheks> this page points to php7.0-mbstring https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial-updates/php-mbstring
[05:59] <vixivtech> can't use php7 for this framework
[06:00] <vixivtech> plus, ubuntu 14.04 is the latest LTS that runs PHP5 hence why I'm running it
[06:00] <vixivtech> and by all rights it should be in libapache2-mod-php5
[06:01] <vixivtech> this is obviously a package maintainer issue
[06:03] <Ben64> it looks like it does
[06:14] <Mehrzad> Hi
[06:15] <Mehrzad> No programs in ubuntu works
[06:17] <Mehrzad> Clion shows the error: log path '/home/mehr/.clion10......' is inaccebile
[06:18] <Mehrzad> Opera error, cant open user profile directory
[06:18] <Mehrzad> Staruml is closed once it is opened
[06:19] <Mehrzad> Whats wrong?
[06:22] <Mehrzad> My first guess is the disk is full
[06:22] <Mehrzad> I dunno what to do about it
[06:25] <Mehrzad> Weird, no diskfull warning
[06:48] <oerheks> 'clion' not working, opera not working, starUML ... all not in our repositories...
[06:48] <stranglerfish> i think i actually got it using: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-int4LuRxRU
[06:48] <stranglerfish> it's installed and patching, which is further than i've gotten in the past
[07:22] <geirha> oerheks: sounds like you don't have write permission to your home directory
[07:23] <geirha> or maybe you lack execute permission
[07:24] <oerheks> geirha, that was in reaction to Mehrzad, but he left
[07:25] <oerheks> yes, could well be, opera profile issues gives that answer often
[07:25] <geirha> oerheks: Are you able to login it at a virtual console (Ctrl+Alt+F1)?
[07:25] <oerheks> geirha, it was not my issue ...
[07:26] <hateball> :>
[07:26] <geirha> well we need some way to look at the permissions. You said no programs work, but there's a chance a vritual console lets you log in
[07:27] <oerheks> we'll do that, if Mehrzad comes back
[07:27] <geirha> oerheks: oh sorry, I'm slow today
[07:27] <geirha> *coffee*
[07:27] <geirha> weechat coloured you with the same colour
[07:27]  * oerheks passes a double-sized-genii-mug
[07:49] <codecutter> i have neo4j listening on port localhost:7474, i've checked the service is running but if i try to connect i get connection refused?
[07:49] <codecutter> curl http://localhost:7474
[07:49] <codecutter> curl: (7) Failed to connect to localhost port 7474: Connection refused
[07:50] <jink> Apparently, it's not running.
[07:50] <jink> netstat -plnt
[07:52] <codecutter> https://pastebin.com/YuKNGh7K
[07:54] <oerheks> service neo4j-service status
[07:56] <codecutter> https://pastebin.com/YAavktbH
[07:58] <codecutter> The neo4j-service service is no longer created in the Neo4j 3.0 Debian package. Instead there is a symlink to the neo4j binary in /usr/local/bin so you can simply use neo4j start, neo4j stop and neo4j restart to start and stop Neo4j. - https://stackoverflow.com/questions/37872603/neo4j-server-properties-missing-and-unable-to-start-neo4j
[08:00] <codecutter> https://pastebin.com/5cUp5uM3
[08:00] <oerheks> maybe this 14.04 tutor is a help, http://www.codiply.com/blog/standalone-neo4j-server-setup-on-ubuntu-14-04/ with the part >> sudo nano /etc/neo4j/neo4j-server.properties
[08:01] <codecutter> i'm in ubuntu 16.*
[08:01] <codecutter> on*
[08:02] <codecutter> its not a external connection. I'm issuing these commands via ssl connection into the server
[08:04] <NilsFR13> hi !
[08:05] <NilsFR13> I need some help to diagnose a DHCP issue
[08:07] <NilsFR13> first, a MS computer works well on Ethernet wire, Ubuntu works well for wifi IPv4
[08:07] <NilsFR13> I would like a wired IPv4 connexion, which does not work
[08:08] <hateball> NilsFR13: what is the name of your ethernet interface?
[08:08] <NilsFR13> I had disable IPv6 in network manager and in /etc/sysctl.conf, as IPv6 address was set automatically by DHCP, I want an IPv4 address
[08:09] <NilsFR13> hateball: enp0s25
[08:09] <hateball> NilsFR13: "ethtool enp0s25" does it say link detected?
[08:09] <cbauer> is there a console only/net edition to get as a livecd/iso?
[08:10] <cbauer> to boot from
[08:10] <ducasse> !mini | cbauer
[08:10] <NilsFR13> hateball: => link detected : yes
[08:11] <ducasse> cbauer: afaik the mini iso does not support uefi out of the box, though.
[08:11] <NilsFR13> hateball: and other information ...
[08:11] <cbauer> that's a nogo then
[08:11] <hateball> NilsFR13: and ifconfig, that shows no IP for that device?
[08:11] <codecutter> di i need to reload anything after editing /etc/init.d/neo4j?
[08:12] <ducasse> cbauer: i haven't got it her atm, but iirc there is an efi directory there that just needs to be moved to the root. you could try that.
[08:12] <ducasse> *got it here
[08:13] <cbauer> currently looking into https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/UEFI-and-BIOS/stable-alternative
[08:13] <NilsFR13> hateball: yes no IP for enp0s25
[08:13] <hateball> NilsFR13: and if you do "sudo dhclient enp0s25" ?
[08:14] <cbauer> I'm intersted in dd_text_16.04-UEFI-n-BIOS_2017-05-07_intel-4-pendrive-7.8GB.img.xz  mentioned on that page, see it nowhere linked though
[08:15] <NilsFR13> hateball: and dhclient does not work, I do not want to re run it until you ask, dhclient run without stopping, or give an RFkill error or something like that, I do not remember
[08:16] <hateball> NilsFR13: but dhclient should give you some output, that it querys for dhcp lease
[08:16] <NilsFR13> hateball:  dhclient enp0s25 does not stop
[08:16] <cbauer> is there no ready downloadable iso I can install ubuntu in UEFI mode from and get a console only/no-DE installation?
[08:16] <NilsFR13> hateball: no anwser, no prompt
[08:18] <ducasse> cbauer: try the lubuntu 'alternate' image, or the server image
[08:19] <cbauer> currently looking for ubuntu server and how to install a console-only version, not having much luck though
[08:19] <NilsFR13> hateball: for network manager, it is set as running for network and stopped for wifi, and wifi switch is off
[08:20] <NilsFR13> hateball: RJ45 link LED is on and traffic LED is blinking
[08:20] <ducasse> cbauer: it's pretty easy to install, covered in the server guide. it will install some server-related packages you may not need, the lubuntu alternate won't do that.
[08:20] <cbauer> just need opencl/cuda support
[08:33] <NilsFR13> hateball: dhclient finished and gave and IPv4, but is was soooo long !, I saw enp0s25 in network manager, I clicked on it, and ... it restarted to get an IPv4 address, I am waiting ...
[08:33] <NilsFR13> hateball: any idea why it is so long ?
[08:33] <hateball> NilsFR13: what chipset is this?
[08:34] <NilsFR13> hateball: lspci ?
[08:34] <hateball> NilsFR13: also by default dhclient gives no feedback, it needs... -v flag I think
[08:34] <hateball> NilsFR13: yep, lspci
[08:34] <NilsFR13> hateball:  ok
[08:35] <NilsFR13> hateball: network manager finished and was not able to get an IPv4 address
[08:35] <NilsFR13> hateball: Intel 82567LM
[08:36] <hateball> NilsFR13: were you on 16.04 or 17.04 ?
[08:37] <NilsFR13> hateball: dhclient says : DHCPDISCOVER on enp0S25 to 255.255.255.255, is this 255.255.255.255 normal ?
[08:37] <NilsFR13> hateball: port 67
[08:37] <NilsFR13> hateball: 16 LTS
[08:37] <hateball> NilsFR13: yes that is the broadcast address
[08:37] <NilsFR13> hateball: ok
[08:37] <hateball> NilsFR13: basically it just asks anyone on the network, hello can you offer me a dhcp IP?
[08:37] <NilsFR13> hateball: ok
[08:38] <hateball> NilsFR13: if you run "lspci -k" which module is used for the card? e1000?
[08:40] <NilsFR13> hateball: Kernel driver in use : e1000e , Kernel modules : e1000e
[08:41] <hateball> NilsFR13: and you say the same hardware works if you boot Windows?
[08:41] <hateball> NilsFR13: are you connecting it to a home router, or what type of equipment in the other end?
[08:43] <NilsFR13> hateball: no, an other MS computer works, I cannot boot Windows on this computer, and, on this computer, same issue with Kubuntu Live CD, this computer is 32 bits, this computer is running Lubuntu
[08:43] <hateball> NilsFR13: ah right
[08:43] <NilsFR13> hateball: it is at work, with HP swich connexion
[08:44] <hateball> NilsFR13: tried a different cable?
[08:44] <hateball> Link can be detected even with a busted cable, but it may not work properly. You never know
[08:46] <NilsFR13> hateball: juste change cable, runned dhclient, still waiting ...
[08:48] <hateball> NilsFR13: well if all things worked properly it should have fetched a new IP soon as it detected link up
[08:48] <hateball> oops
[08:59] <mac_nibblet> Heya, Does anyone have QC35 and Ubuntu with mic working properly ?
[09:02] <hateball> NilsFr13: if this is at work, are you sure there are not things like MAC address controls and such in place?
[09:03] <hateball> or 802.1x and so on
[09:03] <NilsFr13> hateball: freenode bugged, i could not tab your name, refresh page and lost lines ... (newbie !) , tab works now
[09:09] <NilsFr13> hateball: I not sure, but it does not look like there is an MAC@ address control
[09:09] <NilsFr13> hateball: what I can do, is boot on Kubuntu live CD on the MS computer, wait ...
[09:10] <minimec> mac_nibblet: that seems to be a good starting point... https://askubuntu.com/a/833323
[09:13] <hateball> NilsFr13: Suppose you could
[09:13] <hateball> NilsFr13: You could also try booting 17.04 on the problematic machine, if it's a kernel/driver issue... but Intel things are generally as well supported as they come
[09:13] <hateball> and it's not exactly a brand new chipset either
[09:13] <mac_nibblet> minimec, already done that, but still have problems
[09:14] <NilsFr13> hateball: ok for U17
[09:19] <cbauer> ducasse: does lubuntu include a DE?
[09:19] <cbauer> the alternate iso that is
[09:20] <oerheks> the alternate or better said mini iso gives a choise of desktops.
[09:21] <cbauer> at which point?
[09:21] <cbauer> it's currently at "select and install software and runs just through
[09:21] <oerheks> during install.
[09:21] <oerheks> err alternate iso is not Lubuntu
[09:22] <cbauer> this is what I downloaded http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/yakkety/release/lubuntu-16.10-alternate-amd64.iso
[09:23] <oerheks> oh, that is for computers with small amount of ram
[09:23] <oerheks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Alternate_ISO
[09:23] <cbauer> as long as it doesn't have a DE i'ts fine
[09:23] <oerheks> Lubuntu has a DE
[09:24] <cbauer> >,>
[09:24] <oerheks> but if you want to play with cuda, use the server iso, no de, plain basicly the kernel & tools.
[09:24] <cbauer> link?
[09:24] <cbauer> don't wanna grab the wrong iso again
[09:25] <cbauer> need UEFI and 64 bit though
[09:25] <oerheks> grab the amd64 version from the server page
[09:26] <cbauer> http://releases.ubuntu.com/17.04/ubuntu-17.04-server-amd64.iso ?
[09:29] <oerheks> or maybe cuda requires a DE
[09:30] <cbauer> way would it?
[09:30] <oerheks> the nvidia driver would pull a desktop in, i guess
[09:30] <cbauer> as long as the proper driver is loaded for the GPU, no xorg server should be needed to get installed
[09:30] <cbauer> or started
[09:33] <NilsFr13> hateball: the MS computer to test with Kubuntu Live CD is still shutting  down ... I love soooo much MS !
[09:37] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[09:38] <hateball> NilsFr13: Haha :)
[10:05] <cbauer> can I tell ubuntu to use a serial console for tty instead of trying to use a display? cause I'm getting "no suitable video mode found", "booting in blind mode" on that console if there's no display, and if there is a display I get nothing on console
[10:10] <Ermin> Hello
[10:11] <NilsFr13> hateball: MAC@ of Ubuntu computer is shown on switch manager, but no much information
[10:12] <NilsFr13> hateball: MS computer still shutting down ! yeahaaa
[10:14] <Ermin> ![enter image description here](https://i.stack.imgur.com/EZfdc.jpg)![enter image description here](https://i.stack.imgur.com/XBmOJ.jpg)
[10:14] <Ermin> I installed kali linux and made some updation .after that whenever I tries to boot the system it shows couldn't right bytes broken pipes.i used recovery mode in Ubuntu and check the history log whether I have to install any removed file .but when I used "sudo -H vedi /var/log/history.log "command it display as in the image i attached above as a lin
[10:14] <Ermin> k.pls any one help me to find a solution
[10:16] <oerheks> Ermin, find the kali channel for support
[10:17] <oerheks> !kali
[10:45] <TalkingHead> Hello, I have a dual monitor rig, and want to set a specific wallpaper for each monitor in Ubuntu 17.04 in unity
[10:45] <TalkingHead> But there is no clear way to do so
[10:48] <graingert> anyone know a quick minimal dep solution to install a package version range?
[10:49] <graingert> eg you can install python3=3.5.3-1
[10:49] <graingert> but I want something like apt install python3>=3.5
[10:49] <TalkingHead> Ill just install nitrogen and call it good
[10:49] <TalkingHead> If there was a way it'd probably be obvious
[10:51] <minimec> TalkingHead: Take the two images you want to use and fit them exactly to the size of the given screen, and then merge them to one file like 'convert -append image1.jpg image2.jpg my-wallpaper.jpg'
[10:52] <NilsFr13> hateball: same issue with MS computer booted on Lubuntu 16 LTS 32 bits
[10:59] <hateball> NilsFr13: does that have the same type of hardware?
[10:59] <hateball> NilsFr13: lspci
[11:00] <NilsFr13> hateball: no, Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411
[11:02] <hateball> NilsFr13: Interesting
[11:02] <hateball> NilsFr13: Are you the IT dept?
[11:02] <hateball> NilsFr13: I mean, do you know if there are any network access policies in place?
[11:04] <NilsFr13> hateball: yes I am, but, new in this company, and old IT people are gone, so, not so easy to find out about it, but I do not think there is a network policy, and this computer works running MS Win
[11:05] <barq> My machine shuts down every night on its own and I am clueless why it is doing this. It never did this in the weeks before. Any ideas or ideas how I can find out why?
[11:05] <hateball> NilsFr13: Well sure, but it is possible the network enforces 802.1x and maybe the windows machines have a certificate or something that grants them access to the network
[11:06] <hateball> NilsFr13: hence me asking :D
[11:07] <hateball> NilsFr13: because both those chipsets are well supported in the kernel and should have no problems
[11:07] <barq> I am running Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS
[11:08] <NilsFr13> hateball: huuum, you're right !, I do not know 802.1x ?, where should I look for it ? => switches ?, I know we have to add a certificate to Firefox, but this is not related to IP addressing ?
[11:08] <NilsFr13> hateball: ok for chipsets
[11:08] <hateball> NilsFr13: that's probably due to SSL inspection when you browse
[11:09] <NilsFr13> hateball: yes I think you are right about this
[11:09] <hateball> Which is creepy. I don't even employ such tactics at my place of work. But that's another discussion :p
[11:09] <NilsFr13> hateball: so no link with IP addressing
[11:09] <hateball> NilsFr13: Nope
[11:10] <hateball> NilsFr13: well, you'd see in the switches config if they use 802.1x, and then you likely have some central server or device that handles the auth
[11:10] <NilsFr13> hateball: I need to quit few minutes, time to buy a sandwich and tobacco !, be back soon ...
[11:10] <NilsFr13> hateball: ok, I will have a look ...
[11:12] <NilsFr13> hateball: as I do not have as much time as I want to setup this computer, I think I will have to set it up with MS, sooo bad ! - And as I want to move all "infrastructure" (do not know english word) to Linux, I will be back with this issue soon or later ...
[11:13] <Tim_tim> ubuntu 16.04. has experienced an internal error /sbin/plymouthd. what helps?
[11:15] <NilsFr13> hateball: I live ... and be back ..., first I have to look for auth, switches, servers ..., maybe I might send an email to the IT person who were here before
[11:15] <hateball> NilsFr13: what you can do is run wireshark also
[11:15] <hateball> NilsFr13: that should tell you if you get rejected for not authing to 802.1x (radius)
[11:15] <hateball> NilsFr13: but if you are going to admin the network, it is probably good to know how it is setup :p
[11:17] <ducasse> cbauer: the lubuntu alternate image lets you select whether or not to install a desktop, it's one of the last steps.
[11:21] <alexxey> At present how many packages are there in official ubuntu repository?
[11:22] <alexxey> Could anybody with synaptic package manager take a look?
[11:22] <alexxey> Thanks!
[11:24] <oerheks> alexxey, that is not to answer, depending on what ubuntu version, archtecture and enabled repositories.
[11:25] <oerheks> * there is more than one
[11:25] <alexxey> Well, thanks, I think in recent releases the number of packages stays close
[11:26] <alexxey> And I mean enable all 4 repos: main restricted universe multiverse
[11:26] <alexxey> Thanks!
[11:27] <alexxey> This is very easy to look up in synaptic package manager. But right now I don't have Ubuntu installed.
[11:28] <ducasse> which version and architecture?
[11:28] <oerheks> don't click this, your browser will be occupied for an hour or so ... https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/allpackages
[11:30] <oerheks> say 50.000+
[11:30] <alexxey> ducasse, Thanks, I don't mean to specify a specific version/arch, just any version/arch you happen to be using.
[11:31] <minimec> alexxey: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24924230/
[11:31] <ducasse> in that case, >55000
[11:31] <alexxey> oerheks, Right now I'm sitting in front of a debian machine which says 51974, but I guess the number with Ubuntu should be much largert
[11:31] <minimec> alexxey: See lives 49-50
[11:32] <minimec> alexxey: sorry ... 43-50
[11:33] <alexxey> minimec, Thanks, what command are you using? Havn't see that before.
[11:34] <minimec> alexxey: https://askubuntu.com/a/120638
[11:35] <alexxey> minimec, many thanks.
[11:35] <ducasse> or just 'apt list | wc -l', and subtract one.
[11:36] <alexxey> ducasse, That's a neat command. Thanks!
[11:39] <NilsFr13> hateball: yes, thanks
[11:42] <pynthon> Hello, I try to install firejail on my ubuntu using: https://launchpad.net/~deki/+archive/ubuntu/firejail
[11:43] <pynthon> When I do sudo add-apt-repository ppa:deki/firejail it works fine. But when I later do sudo apt-get upgrade I get the following error: W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/deki/firejail/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[11:43] <pynthon> Therefore when I do sudo apt-get install firejail it cant be found
[11:43] <pynthon> or is unable to locatie the package
[11:44] <alexxey> This PPA does not support 14.04
[11:44] <pynthon> Ahhh, that explains a lot :p
[11:44] <alexxey> Minimum required: 15.10
[11:44] <alexxey> See the PPA page for detailed info
[11:45] <pynthon> alexxey: You see that because of the: 0.9.40-1~0ubuntu15.10.0 ?
[11:45] <alexxey> pynthon, Yeah, it seems there is no package for 14.04 (trysty)
[11:45] <alexxey> s/trysty/trusty
[11:46] <pynthon> alexxey: Ah thanks, I will have to upgrade then ;p. Thanks a lot!
[11:47] <alexxey> pynthon, I haven't done more research, but I guess there should be a way to install firejail on 14.04
[11:50] <pynthon> alexxey: I will check that out first ty!
[11:51] <alexxey> pynthon, :-)
[12:03] <sirius0503> hey, I needed help with installing ubuntu 14.04.5  with the partitioning part, I have read about it at askubuntu.com but, the opinions seem varied on what type of partition to use and about the efi and boot partition part
[12:24] <scottjl> you're going to find plenty of varied opinions on here too
[12:25] <SchrodingersScat> doesn't efi vary between machines as well? ymmv, etc.
[12:26] <SchrodingersScat> oh, i suppose not the partition part
[12:26] <barq> Is it normal for Ubuntu to react to sleep requests via network?
[12:27] <sirius0503> @SchrodingersScat: at some places people say to just add partitions for just the root directory and swap area ,and at some they say hey , you need to have a boot partition or an efi partition
[12:27] <sirius0503> I am somewhat confused
[12:29] <sirius0503> @scottjl: I am particularly confused about whether my root & swap partitions should be logical partitions or primary partitions
[12:29] <SchrodingersScat> I use fde so I normally let it decide that :/
[12:30] <scottjl> sirius0503: if you're making a separate boot (which I don't recommend) then only boot needs to be primary, root and swap can be logical.
[12:30] <scottjl> sirius0503: if you're folding /boot into /root then it should be primary
[12:31] <sirius0503> scottjl: how am i supposed to make boot or efi partition,since when i previously installed ubuntu , i ended up with ubuntu in the legacy mode and windows on uefi mode
[12:32] <scottjl> sirius0503: can't help you with that. i don't use efi, more trouble than it's worth imho
[12:33] <sirius0503> scottjl: so should i make a boot partition in legacy mode, I don't have any annoyance with switching to legacy or uefi
[12:33] <scottjl> you're asking my opinion? yes. but as i said earlier, you'll get lots of varied opinions on that subject in here.
[12:34] <ImQ009> What are the currently recommended means of directory encryption?
[12:35] <sirius0503> scottjl: well :D , thanks for your opinion will try that !
[12:36] <scottjl> sirius0503: what i do on my servers, 32G / primary partition, no separate /boot. swap as needed.
[12:37] <scottjl> all data/apps go into separate partitions.
[12:37] <scottjl> your needs may vary
[12:38] <sirius0503> scottjl: i also read on the ubuntu wiki that a separate boot is not recommended, but then what will happen in that case? I am a novice, so sorry if the question is a bit stupid
[12:39] <scottjl> if you don't make a separate /boot it is simply part of /root
[12:39] <scottjl> separate /boot is a holdover from old bios that couldn't boot a partition that was placed over the 2G limit. so you always made sure it was first.
[12:39] <scottjl> modern bios this isn't an issue
[12:40] <sirius0503> scottjl:thanks, for the answer :)
[12:41] <pthomas> hello, I've been testing out a 4.11 kernel, and every day the lock screen won't respond I do a "sudo service lightdm restart" from a ssh session, and everything is fine again
[12:41] <scottjl> i generally don't recommend / in a lvm because then you have to make sure you have lvm modules in your kernel for them to boot
[12:41] <scottjl> i have a co-worker who disagrees and does it, then has to spend time hacking up initrd when it builds without the proper modules.
[12:42] <pthomas> I've looked through journalctl, and nothing jumps out
[12:43] <pthomas> the lock screen won't respond to the keyboard, but the mouse still works
[12:47] <day1000> Anyone utilizing MaaS and Juju that can provide help? I am unable to conjure-up landscape, and continue to hit this issue (https://pastebin.com/WZKHVDFK).
[12:50] <ducasse> day1000: try #ubuntu-server
[13:03] <koolfy> hello, I have a quick question about apt, in particular an error I'm seeing when adding a stretch repository to the sources and running apt update
[13:03] <koolfy> E: Failed to fetch http://mirror.nl.leaseweb.net/debian/dists/stretch/main/i18n/Translation-en  BZ2_bzread: /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/mirror.nl.leaseweb.net_debian_dists_stretch_main_i18n_Translation-en.bz2 Read error (-5: DATA_ERROR_MAGIC)
[13:04] <koolfy> I get this and it appears that /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/mirror.nl.leaseweb.net_debian_dists_stretch_main_i18n_Translation-en.bz2 is actually a symlink to its plaintext uncompressed counterpart located at /var/lib/apt/lists/mirror.nl.leaseweb.net_debian_dists_stretch_main_i18n_Translation-en
[13:04] <koolfy> so not a bz2 file, so kaboom
[13:17] <pthomas> anyone know what application the lock screen is? Or where it would log to?
[13:41] <Abbott> I'm trying to install this driver: http://www.ftdichip.com/Drivers/VCP.htm on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS using gcc 4.6.3 but I keep getting errors no matter how many lines I edit in an attempt to fix Rules.make
[13:41] <Abbott> so I think I'm just missing something simple
[13:43] <Abbott> is there some special way I'm supposed to compile other than just running `make`? Do I definitely need to edit Rules.make?
[13:54] <geirha> !12.04 | Abbott
[13:54] <ExoUNX> all while 16.04 feels outdated lol
[13:55] <Abbott> right, I can't alter this system much though, as it's a machine at my place of work
[13:56] <Abbott> surely this problem could be addressed independent of what version of Ubuntu I'm running, right?
[13:57] <_boreeas_> Hi, I'm having issues with preseeding a 17.04 ppc installation
[13:58] <_boreeas_> The keyboard layout is not configured correctly (with either 'keyboard-configuration/layoutcode' or 'keyboard-configuration/xkb-keymap'), the root password is not set as expected and neither tasksel nor pkgsel install the requested packages
[14:00] <DArqueBishop> Abbott: It's well past time to have that machine upgraded or replaced.
[14:01] <DArqueBishop> 12.04 is no longer supported, so it's out of any sort of security/financial compliance.
[14:13] <Callek> is there a way to convince `head` `tail` `less` etc to "keep" TERM colors?  (alternatively is there a way to convince programs that I want term colors when piping ... e.g. `hg diff | head` )
[14:13]  * Callek can't find a good answer elsewhere without a LOT of noise in my results
[14:15] <scottjl> Callek: less -R
[14:19] <tr4ck3r>  /ignore -channels * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS TOPICS MODES
[14:47] <elbrinke> hello, can anyone please help me with the following:
[14:48] <elbrinke> I'm trying to install nfs-kernel-server on an ubuntu lxd container...
[14:48] <elbrinke> But i get an error: "Jun 22 14:38:31 FOG systemd[1]: Dependency failed for NFS server and services.
[14:48] <elbrinke> Jun 22 14:38:31 FOG systemd[1]: nfs-server.service: Job nfs-server.service/start failed with result 'dependency'.
[14:51] <Kristjan55555> Hello! Hot 33 year old male from viljandi, estonia searching for wife, send me your cunt pictures first! Tel 37253902210 email:  kristjan55555@mail.ee. I am waiting.....
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[14:54] <scottjl> yeahhhh. i think you're in the wrong place for that
[14:55] <BluesKaj> he was in debian yesterday obviously doesn't know the diff between male and female
[14:55] <scottjl> you're saying there are no females in here?
[14:55] <SchrodingersScat> he's gone, it's over, best to move on and ignore it
[14:57] <BluesKaj> scottjl,, just read it again, English isn't his native lingo
[14:59] <Exterminador> hello guys.. i don't know if this is the best place, but i'm trying to use sftp via command line to automate some tasks.. the problem, is that the login requests me to input a password.. how can i automte that?
[15:00] <SchrodingersScat> Exterminador: you can maybe use keys.  ssh-keygen then ssh-copy-id username@server
[15:02] <Exterminador> SchrodingersScat: thanks!!! :D
[15:02] <SchrodingersScat> Exterminador: welcome, feel free to ask if you have further questions.
[15:04] <sachina> Hello, I am using i3-wm. I often switch keyboard layout from English to Nepali. I somehow managed to show en-ne(english, nepali) on top bar of i3wm. It gone now. How do I get it back?
[15:07] <Exterminador> that's so friggin cool!! :D now i justo do ssh user@host and instant login
[15:07] <Exterminador> and if i want to remove that specific key?
[15:08] <sachina> guess that is in .ssh *.pub.
[15:08] <scottjl> if you mean from the other end, edit .ssh/authorized_keys
[15:09] <Exterminador> oh, yes..
[15:09] <Exterminador> if i removed the key from the end user, puff, access revoked
[15:10] <scottjl> correct
[15:16] <nedal_> Hello, I'm trying to install apache pig on my PC, I've done all steps in the documentation, but when I execute a pig command, I got this message: The program 'pig' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install bsdgames. Any clues ?
[15:16] <SchrodingersScat> what is apache pig?
[15:17] <nedal_> SchrodingersScat, it's a Hadoop framework
[15:18] <nacc> nedal_: i doubt apache pig is a command to run
[15:18] <nacc> nedal_: was it an ubuntu package?
[15:18] <scottjl> gawd i hated installing hadoop
[15:18] <nedal_> nacc, 'pig' is the command with options
[15:18] <scottjl> was such a mess.
[15:19] <nedal_> scottjl, I can imagine !
[15:19] <scottjl> had to set up a 6 node cluster for a POC. pig. hive. zookeeper. the works.
[15:20] <scottjl> nedal_:  is pig in your path?
[15:20] <SchrodingersScat> nedal_: idk if there's a package for this, http://www-us.apache.org/dist/pig/pig-0.17.0/
[15:20] <oerheks> and what tutorial do you follow? all 10 tutorials give an other download adrss like  http://www-us.apache.org/dist/pig/pig-0.16.0/pig-0.16.0.tar.gz or
[15:21] <scottjl> nedal_: i had it installed in /usr/local/pig-version.version.version and you have to have it in your path
[15:21] <nacc> nedal_: i assume path issue as scottjl said
[15:22] <nedal_> scottjl, I have the path set
[15:22] <scottjl> nedal_: type: which pig
[15:23] <nedal_> scottjl, pig pig-0.17.0
[15:23] <nedal_> SchrodingersScat, this is the package that I ve installed
[15:24] <nedal_> nacc, scottjl how do I fix this path problem ?
[15:25] <jaydemir> anyone here using AMD graphics? What drivers you using?
[15:25] <nacc> nedal_: what path problem? the above output "pig pig-0.17.0" is not the standard output of `which pgi`
[15:26] <nedal_> nacc,  the output of which pig is empty
[15:26] <nacc> nedal_: then it's *not* in your path
[15:26] <nacc> nedal_: where did it get installed?
[15:27] <baldpope> on ubuntu 16.04.2 lts - how do I install samba 4.6.x ? instead of the repo default 4.3.11?
[15:27] <oerheks> jaydemir,  as of 16.04, the openradeon or open amd-gpu/amdgpu-pro
[15:28] <nacc> baldpope: you don't, officially, you can build from source, or use a ppa, though
[15:28] <nedal_> nacc, on /usr/local/pig
[15:28] <nacc> nedal_: /usr/local/ (rather than /usr/local/bin) is rather non-standard, but you'll need to add it to PATH then
[15:28] <scottjl> hadoop it's generally a good idea not to use the packages. they just aren't up-to-date :-(
[15:29] <nacc> nedal_: so `PATH=/usr/local/pig:$PATH which pig`
[15:29] <oerheks> baldpope, build yourself? or find a ppa, but the known ppa is dead https://launchpad.net/~samba-team/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[15:29] <SchrodingersScat> nacc: are you including which pig into path?
[15:30] <nacc> SchrodingersScat: sanity check that hte bin is in that path
[15:30] <nacc> SchrodingersScat: as it might be /usr/local/pig/bin ... or something
[15:31] <SchrodingersScat> `PATH=/usr/local/pig:$PATH ; which pig`
[15:31] <nacc> SchrodingersScat: it works in the context of a command too
[15:31] <nacc> SchrodingersScat: your version changes PATH for the shell
[15:31] <nacc> in any case, nedal_, you didn't follow the instructions completely
[15:31] <nacc> specificially 'download pig step 3'
[15:34] <nedal_> nacc, well, as far as I know, I ve done exactelly what I m supposed to do, but might done something wrong
[15:34] <nacc> nedal_: did you do step 3?
[15:36] <kalcso> Hi there, How can I use tor for all of my apps? Network proxy doesn't work.
[15:37] <nedal_> nacc, what is step 3 ?
[15:37] <nedal_> nacc, I've done all the steps as described
[15:38] <nacc> nedal_: you never told us which tutorial you used: http://pig.apache.org/docs/r0.17.0/start.html#download
[15:41] <nedal_> nacc, here is the tutorial that I used, I https://www.tutorialspoint.com/apache_pig/apache_pig_installation.htm
[15:42] <nacc> nedal_: ok, that tutorial seems ... unnecessary, but hwatever. "Configure Apache Pig, .bashrc section"
[15:44] <nedal_> nacc, when I ve set up the path as your tuto said, the output of 'which pig' is /usr/local/pig/pig-0.17.0/bin//pig ... it s okey.
[15:44] <nedal_> nacc, but when I try something like 'pig -help' I get  'Cannot locate pig.jar. do 'ant jar', and try again'
[15:45] <nedal_> should I execute  'ant jar' as a command ?
[15:46] <nacc> nedal_: you shouldn't mix tutorials. If you followed the tutorial you did, run it the way they suggest.
[15:46] <nacc> nedal_: but note that you have to follow their hadoop and java setups as well
[15:50] <baldpope> nacc or oerheks - any idea why samba was abandoned? or hasn't been updated from the 4.3 to the 4.6 branches?
[15:52] <nacc> baldpope: ... what?
[15:52] <nacc> !latest | baldpope
[15:52] <nacc> baldpope: 'abandoned' is a strong word to use
[15:53] <baldpope> nacc: abandoned might be strong - but if 4.3.11 is the latest available in the repo, it's over a year old
[15:53] <nacc> baldpope: ... so?
[15:53] <baldpope> excuse me - almost a year
[15:54] <baldpope> several security fixes have come out for that
[15:54] <nacc> baldpope: did you read the faq?
[15:54] <nacc> baldpope: and the security team has provided those with backports, then
[15:54] <nacc> baldpope: 4.3.11 being the upstream base does not mean it's unmodified in ubuntu
[15:54] <jhutchins_wk> baldpope: Simply comparing major version numbers doesn't tell you whether security patches have been applied.
[15:55] <baldpope> thats true, is there a method to confirm patches have been backported?
[15:55] <jhutchins_wk> We're having to deal with a security team that doesn't understand that concept.
[15:55] <baldpope> otherwise, you're just asking me to trust they have been
[15:56] <jhutchins_wk> baldpope: Yes.  Look at the list of CVE responses on Ubuntu's web site.
[15:56] <jhutchins_wk> baldpope: If you're serious about monitoring those, subscribe to the security announce mailing list and read the traffic.
[15:57] <nacc> jhutchins_wk: what concept?
[15:57] <jhutchins_wk> baldpope: https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/
[15:57] <baldpope> ty jhutchins_wk - also just found this - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+source/samba/+changelog
[15:58] <jhutchins_wk> nacc: The concept that most distros maintain the base release of important patches by backporting and applying security patches from newer upstream versions.
[15:58] <nacc> jhutchins_wk: and the ubuntu security team doesn't understand this? or were you referring to someone else with 'a security team'?
[15:58] <jhutchins_wk> nacc: For example backporting security fixes from PHP7 to PHP5 so as not to break compatibility.
[15:58] <jhutchins_wk> No, security team for one of the branches of the company I work for.
[15:58] <Poster> A lot of security scanners only look at major version numbers
[15:58] <baldpope> nacc: I'm assuming he meant internal
[15:58] <nacc> jhutchins_wk: ah ok :)
[15:59] <baldpope> Poster: agreed - and explaining that to even non-technical compliance people is a PITA
[15:59] <Poster> When the vendor releases an advisory and says you have to be at 1.2.3 to be patched, Ubuntu and other LTS type distributions will take the patch that resolves the issue and apply it to say 1.2.1
[15:59] <Poster> so 1.2.1 is patched, but the version number from the vendor has not changed
[16:00] <baldpope> it makes sense - i was unaware that ubuntu did exactly that
[16:00] <baldpope> reading through the change-log - I do see that various security updates have been applied
[16:00] <jhutchins_wk> I know Ubuntu, Debian, and RedHat all do it, I presume others do as well.
[16:00] <Poster> so the vendor versioning, especially in LTS releases will generally be behind that of the package maintainer
[16:00] <Poster> yes they do, SuSE Enterprise likely does as well
[16:01] <Poster> security and reliability fixes are less likely to cause trouble than feature changes
[16:01] <baldpope> in the above referenced samba change-log - makes mention of ubuntu 16.04.7 - does that mean I need to do a dist-upgrade from 16.04.2 to 16.04.7?
[16:02] <Poster> the vendor version is _usually_ locked for the duration of the release
[16:02] <nacc> baldpope: no.
[16:02] <jhutchins_wk> If you're responding to a security audit, it should cite the CVE it thinks you're vulnerable to, and you look that CVE up in the tracker and find the response announcement from your distributor.
[16:02] <Poster> sometimes it's not the case, I know Samba has jumped, but it's not too common
[16:02] <nacc> baldpope: the version of a package is not related to the version of the distribution (in general)
[16:02] <Poster> ^- it usually just indicates where it started
[16:02] <jhutchins_wk> Samba has a habit of introducing new bugs in new versions.
[16:03] <Poster> I know it jumped in 14.04 with the badlock update
[16:03] <baldpope> ok, so if I'm on 16.04.2 - and I've run apt update / and no additional packages are available for a given package, I can be reasonably assured I'm running the latest available through the LTS package system?
[16:04] <scottjl> that's a good assumption
[16:04] <baldpope> alright - thank you all
[16:04] <nacc> baldpope: so 2:4.3.11+dfsg-0ubuntu0.16.04.7 means: debian epoch 2 (2:); upstream version 4.3.11 (4.3.11); debian free software guidelines applied to the upstream source (+dfsg); not a merge/sync of a version published in debian at the time (-0); an ubuntu change to the upstream version (ubuntu); to multiple releases, this one for 16.04 (0.16.04); and the 7th such change (.7). Roughly.
[16:05] <baldpope> thanks nacc
[16:06] <baldpope> so again, not necessarily a dist update, but a change to the given package
[16:06] <Poster> well said nacc, that should be a factoid
[16:06] <nacc> baldpope: right
[16:07] <nacc> Poster: it's hard to cover every possible case -- probably something generic could be written. I'll put it on my todo :)
[16:07] <baldpope> perfect, and apt show samba does show 16.04.7
[16:07] <baldpope> alright, that makes a lot more sense - thanks for explaining it
[16:07] <Poster> nacc: yep understood, I just liked how you broke it into easily understood pieces
[16:11] <nacc> Poster: yep, makes sense :)
[16:21] <littlegirl> I'm trying to temporarily add some boot options to Ubuntu 16.04 and I pressed E to open editing of the Grub settings during boot and am not quite sure where to put them. I'd like to add "systemctl start nfs-kernel-server" (without the quotes) wherever it may go. As far as I know, I need to add it to the end of the line with quiet splash, which I found, but that line ends with $vt_handoff_ after quiet splash. Do I add my options aft
[16:21] <littlegirl> er $vt_handoff_ on that line, before it, or somewhere else?
[16:22] <nacc> littlegirl: that's not a parameter to the kernel or init
[16:22] <nacc> littlegirl: and won't do what you think it will do
[16:22] <littlegirl> nacc, can you tell me where it would go?
[16:22] <nacc> littlegirl: if you'd like nfs-kernel-server to start at boot, run `systemctl enable nfs-kernel-server`
[16:23] <littlegirl> I would, but it won't boot. It's stuck at the splash screen, and I found a bug report that claims it's fixed in which the bug reporter recommended the step I'm wanting to try.
[16:23] <littlegirl> https://askubuntu.com/questions/477247/ubuntu-12-04-stuck-at-boot-splash-screen
[16:24] <nacc> littlegirl: ... how is that related to adding an entry for nfs-kernel-server?
[16:24] <littlegirl> nacc, did you read the bug reporter's comment?
[16:24] <littlegirl> He says that manually adding that solved it for him.
[16:25] <littlegirl> Whoops: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/setserial/+bug/1452644
[16:26] <littlegirl> nacc, in the bug report, he wrote, 'Manually starting with "systemctl start nfs-kernel-server" after boot works fine.' and since I don't have an after boot, I figured I have to do it before or during boot.
[16:28] <littlegirl> It's hanging forever at the boot splash screen, and if I press F2 before it gets completely stuck and becomes unresponsive there, I see these two entries at the top: "Dependency failed for pNFS block layout mapping daemon" and "PNFS blkmaping enablement. is not active."
[16:29] <nacc> littlegirl: right, you didn't give me a bug report, so no.
[16:29] <nacc> littlegirl: let me read.
[16:29] <littlegirl> Okay, nacc, thanks/
[16:31] <nacc> littlegirl: are you sure it's hung? hit escape and it should drop you to the console log
[16:31] <nacc> littlegirl: s/hung/completely stuck/
[16:32] <nacc> littlegirl: if your system won't boot, that is unrelated to that other bug
[16:36] <sylario> Hi
[16:36] <littlegirl> nacc: Everything else in the console when I pressed F2 said OK. Those were the only two messages that didn't.
[16:38] <ioria> littlegirl, if the culprit is nfs, you can boot in recovery, comment the line in fstab, stop/disable nfs system and reboot
[16:38] <littlegirl> That sounds perfect, ioria. How do I do that?
[16:38] <littlegirl> Not the fstab editing part, but the booting in recovery.
[16:38] <ioria> littlegirl, exactly as i said
[16:39] <ioria> littlegirl, grub -> advanced options -> recovery -> root shell
[16:39] <littlegirl> I suspect that it's NFS because of those error messages and because the one thing I did differently was not to boot this machine (the one I'm typing to you on) before booting the one that can't boot. This one is usually always on. So that's the one thing that was different.
[16:40] <nacc> littlegirl: just stop for a second. what is 'before or during boot'?
[16:40] <littlegirl> Thank you, ioria!
[16:40] <nacc> littlegirl: in any case -- what ioria suggested is what you actually need to do
[16:40] <ioria> littlegirl, you need to remount rw,   mount -o remount,rw /
[16:41] <ioria> littlegirl,  it's only an assumption, but that command (systemctl restart nfs-kernel-server) should be in rc.local, not in grub
[16:42] <littlegirl> nacc, where do you see 'before or during boot'?
[16:42] <nacc> littlegirl: you said that earlier "... I figured I have to do it before or during boot"
[16:42] <littlegirl> ioria, the remount rw command you gave me, do I need to do that once I boot because I'm in recovery and before I do the edits, or is that something else? I plan on going into his fstab and commenting out the line that tells Ubuntu to use NFS. There's no need for it to run on boot.
[16:43] <littlegirl> nacc, ah, okay. What that meant was in the Grub menu. I don't normally mess with Grub, so I'm not up on all the terminology.
[16:43] <jhutchins_wk> It doesn't make sense to restart the NFS server right after boot.  It should be configured to start at boot and that should take care of it.
[16:43] <ioria> littlegirl,  you run it, right after dropping to the root shell
[16:44] <littlegirl> jhutchins_wk, that would be true if we used it all the time, but we use it very rarely, and if it can cause this sort of problem, it needs to only run on command.
[16:44] <ioria> here we are the bug report ...
[16:44] <ioria> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nfs-utils/+bug/1590799
[16:45] <jhutchins_wk> littlegirl: If you want a one-time start, systemctl start <service>.
[16:45] <jhutchins_wk> littlegirl: After booting and logging in as root.
[16:45] <littlegirl> That looks like a similar bug, and is also, frustratingly, marked as fixed.
[16:46] <ioria> littlegirl,  yep, the workaround seems to be rc.local
[16:46] <jhutchins_wk> littlegirl: If you wanted it to start every time, you would systemctl enable <service>, or systemctl disable <service> when you no longer need it.
[16:46] <nacc> littlegirl: latest comments imply not actually fixed
[16:47] <littlegirl> Ah, okay, that makes sense.
[16:48] <littlegirl> Thank you, all, for your help! I'm off to make it happen.
[17:11] <Mrokii> Hello. Does anybody in here know about Kubuntus' IM Conctacts, specifically problems with it? I've asked in #kubuntu but haven't gotten an answer yet.
[17:17] <hipp> chassis is also damaged  ...  non critical
[17:17] <hipp> d-oh  ...  wrong window
[17:26] <jhutchins_wk> Mrokii: You can try asking here, *buntu is ubuntu.
[17:27] <jhutchins_wk> Mrokii: Are you asking about an IM Address Book app?
[17:29] <Mrokii> jhutchins_wk: AS it seems the IM client on Kubuntu is name "IM Contacts", but when I start that, the window title says "IM Contacts - KDE Telepathy Contact List". But this seems to be a complete IM Messenger, as it shows a contacts list and a dropdown menu to chose ones' online-status. However, it doesn't seem to recognise any accounts I configure via system setting in Kubuntu.
[17:31] <Mrokii> Anyhow, I have to leave now for work. Will see what I can do or what alternatives there are, as far as Instant Messengers.
[17:31] <Mrokii> -gone-
[17:32] <jhutchins_wk> Mrokii: It sounds like it may be intended for SMS messaging.
[17:36] <foist> I'm having a lot of trouble getting my external hidpi display to scale properly. Trying to follow the guide here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/393400/is-it-possible-to-have-two-different-dpi-configurations-for-two-different-screen/555812#555812 but I can't figure out what values to use for the params, especially `--fb`.
[17:39] <Bashing-om> foist: Maybe of help : https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HiDPI .
[17:43] <foist> Bashing-om: yes, I've seen that page. It doesn't really explain it.
[17:43] <foist> and if it does, I don't know enough to recognize it as the explanation.
[17:44] <Bashing-om> foist: Regrets then . I have no experience with HiDPI . Was a link I was aware of and hoped would help :(
[17:45] <foist> Bashing-om: ok, thanks anyway.
[17:51] <tcpdump> How do i run a process and fork it so it keeps running and I have my terminal back?
[17:52] <BluesKaj> tcpdump, open another tab in the terminal
[17:53] <leftyfb> tcpdump: <command> &
[17:54] <leftyfb> or run it in screen
[17:54] <leftyfb> or byobu
[17:54] <leftyfb> or tmux
[17:54] <V7> #join #arch
[17:54] <V7> oh crap
[18:09] <hanshenrik> how effed am i? https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/wpEGcsl6s0CU-8Vnl5VGJQ/raw?password=BvTuVXP7dvotnmhc4ksh
[18:10] <hanshenrik> ubuntu 16.04 lts server edition, had an upgrade gone sour
[18:10] <hanshenrik> then tried to apt remove --purge
[18:10] <akik> hanshenrik: your /boot is probably full
[18:10] <hanshenrik> yes it is
[18:10] <hanshenrik> apparently 200MB isn't enough
[18:11] <hanshenrik> for ubuntu 1604
[18:11] <akik> hanshenrik: kernel+initrd is about 43 megs
[18:12] <akik> hanshenrik: can you pastebin "ls -al /boot" ?
[18:12] <hanshenrik> https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/UoKPrnERmJxG8aIKhSlaOQ/raw?password=O8cAD2Jr5KK0iYVDerqY
[18:13] <nacc> hanshenrik: does `sudo apt autoremove` remove any kernel images (or try to)
[18:13] <hanshenrik> it tries to, but it fails
[18:14] <akik> hanshenrik: remove a couple of older vmlinuz and initrd manually and try again
[18:15] <hanshenrik> apt autoremove --purge -y 2>&1 | pastebinit   gives me: https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/sLYIdEPlPTY9E69sLMdZRA/raw?password=Nq-sj3VaAPK3jmepeRS-
[18:16] <nacc> hanshenrik: what fails?
[18:16] <nacc> hanshenrik: no failure in that paste.
[18:16] <pavlos> hanshenrik: rm 72, 79 in /boot to make some space
[18:16] <hanshenrik> huh
[18:18] <akik> hanshenrik: don't remove 79 because 81 is not installed yet
[18:18] <Bashing-om> hanshenrik: Know what kernel you are booting with such that you do not mess about with it ' uname -r ' .
[18:19] <nacc> akik: per the last paste, 81 is now installed
[18:19] <hanshenrik> 4.4.0-72-generic
[18:19] <pavlos> hanshenrik: sry, meant 78
[18:19] <hanshenrik> i should probably reboot it, but its a production server, given the primary customers, should probably wait till 2AM UTC before rebooting it
[18:20] <hanshenrik> there's no fallback server if/when the main one goes down
[18:21] <hanshenrik> (and no, not using Canonical LivePatch or anything like it)
[18:21] <pavlos> hanshenrik: what's uname -r
[18:21] <hanshenrik> 4.4.0-72-generic
[18:21] <hanshenrik> said it twice ^^
[18:22] <pavlos> hanshenrik: I guess the only safe to remove is 78
[18:25] <Exterminador> hi guys,again. my KVM server is requesting a restart. can i see why the restart is required?
[18:25] <Exterminador> i mean, what's the update/package that demands the restart
[18:26] <ikonia> kernel/libc ?
[18:26] <nacc> Exterminador: /var/run/reboot-required.pkgs
[18:28] <Exterminador> dang.. libc6 linux-image-4.4.0-81-generic linux-base linux-base
[18:28] <Exterminador> is there a way to avoid the reboot?
[18:28] <Exterminador> :X
[18:28] <nacc> Exterminador: well for the kernel, use livepatch
[18:28] <nacc> Exterminador: but for the others, no
[18:30] <ikonia> ..but don't use livepatch
[18:30] <nacc> ikonia: ?
[18:30] <ikonia> nacc: I'm just not a fan of it
[18:30] <nacc> ikonia: ah ok
[18:30] <nacc> ikonia: technical reason?
[18:30] <ikonia> and I don't see the real benifit when other packages tht normally ship with the kernel can't be used
[18:31] <ikonia> nacc: nothing major, the memory swap out thing is jus a false economy for me, as the libc update here shows
[18:32] <nacc> ikonia: ack, i agree -- it's mostly branding (and being able to say it's there)
[18:32] <nacc> ikonia: it also is a funny thing -- in the modern deployment model, just spin up a new instance, migrate over
[18:32] <nacc> ikonia: rebooting is so last year :)
[18:33] <ikonia> nacc: well thats another way to look at it
[18:34] <lotuspsychje> there still is a !livepatch factoid, not usefull anymore?
[18:36] <ikonia> !livepatch
[18:37] <ikonia> lotuspsychje: I guess it depends on the value you place on livepatch how useful that factoid is
[18:40] <magkneetoe> hi
[18:41] <lotuspsychje> ikonia: this is ubuntu support, isnt a factoid suppose to be helpful without values of a user?
[18:42] <Exterminador> well, i really need to reboot it, then?
[18:43] <nacc> lotuspsychje: i don't think anyone said the factoid isn't useful. It still defines and links to the feature.
[18:43] <magkneetoe> you guys think and AC wifi dongle will work on ubuntu
[18:43] <magkneetoe> ?
[18:43] <scottjl> sure.
[18:43] <magkneetoe> :D
[18:43] <scottjl> as long as it's a supported chipset
[18:43] <magkneetoe> ouu
[18:44] <scottjl> i have some realtek's that work just fine
[18:44] <magkneetoe> i wanted one of those cheap chinese ones from ebay
[18:44] <magkneetoe> i just want 5g capability on my laptop
[18:45] <scottjl> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01G8IPLD8 works for me with ubuntu just fine
[18:45] <scottjl> but it's larger than one of those tiny ones
[18:45] <magkneetoe> i appreciate your recommendation
[18:45] <scottjl> you're welcome
[18:46] <ikonia> lotuspsychje: it's valuable in that it gives you the info, if you don't find livepatch valuable, it's loses a bit
[18:46] <lotuspsychje> ikonia: kk
[18:47] <ikonia> lotuspsychje: (it's only me that doesn't find livepatch valuable, so I'm sure others will use it)
[18:48] <bitplane> Hi all. I have an old Ubuntu desktop box that I want to use as a server. It has no CD drive and I have no USB key handy. I have upgraded it to latest LTS via ssh and would now like to remove desktop packages
[18:49] <bitplane> is there a way to wipe it?
[18:49] <bitplane> I mean remove non-default server packages
[18:50] <ikonia> bit pull the main unity(or whatever desktop) packages and it will pull a lot more as dependencies with it
[18:50] <ikonia> then autoclean will remove any left overs
[18:50] <ikonia> that will get you %70-%80 of the way in a matter of minutes
[18:50] <scottjl> well you could remove your desktop. but you'd have to go through and pick and clean every package you didn't want.
[18:50] <ikonia> you can then spend some more attention to the final tidy up
[18:50] <scottjl> other than desktop
[18:51] <ikonia> don't know why you want to remove the desktop packages though, what harm are they doing ?
[18:51] <ikonia> it's only a home server I assume
[18:51] <scottjl> it honestly isn't worth the effort. change it to boot to command line vs. graphical and leave the rest alone.
[19:04] <ioria> bitplane, download mini.iso , boot it from grub, and you'll have a like-server install
[19:04] <bitplane> thanks people. I'll try both
[19:05] <bitplane> ikonia: it's gonna be a server so I don't want more software than I need on there. all software is surface area
[19:06] <nacc> bitplane: it's going to be a public server?
[19:07] <scottjl> bitplane: then you're better off just doing it right and reinstalling server
[19:07] <nacc> bitplane: reinstall it then
[19:07] <scottjl> bitplane: because you're never going to have the same surface area as a real server install
[19:08] <ikonia> bitplane: surface area ?
[19:09] <scottjl> euphemism for security vulnerabilities
[19:09] <scottjl> if that's what you're really concerned about, then it pays to do it the right way and reinstall.
[19:10] <ikonia> scottjl: but it makes no sense, he was happy to put it on the internet as a desktop....but not happy to put it on the internet as a server with the desktop packages installed but not active
[19:10] <ioria> maybe he needs disk space
[19:10] <scottjl> ikonia: i'm not defending it at all. my advice is to reinstall
[19:20] <CrtxReavr> Any reason OpenJDK on woudlnt be able to resolve via DNS when /etc/resolv.conf & /etc/nsswitch.conf are correct and point to functional DNS?
[19:20] <CrtxReavr> host & dig commands owrk?
[19:20] <blkadder> Yes
[19:21] <CrtxReavr> This is on 14.04.3 LTS.
[19:21] <blkadder> Stupid caching behavior.
[19:21] <CrtxReavr> blkadder, enlighten me?
[19:21] <ioria> CrtxReavr, please, uname -r
[19:21] <CrtxReavr> ncsd?
[19:21] <blkadder> No Java
[19:22] <CrtxReavr> blkadder,  how do I fix?
[19:22] <blkadder> By default Java will do some rather questionable things related to DNS
[19:22] <CrtxReavr> We can work around it with an /etc/hosts entry, but that's not feasible going forward.
[19:22] <blkadder> Like ignoring TTLs
[19:22] <CrtxReavr> Some way to flush?
[19:22] <Canofemptyknowle> hello?
[19:23] <blkadder> CrtxReavr, I suggest reviewing the relevant docs for the right incantation. :-)
[19:23] <CrtxReavr> ioria, I can't copy/paste bu tit's 3.13.0-68-generic.
[19:23] <ioria> !info linux-generic trusty
[19:24] <nacc> CrtxReavr: that sounds super out of date
[19:24] <ioria> CrtxReavr, please,  upgrade your system
[19:24] <nacc> CrtxReavr: just a simple `sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade` should do it
[19:24] <nacc> *maybe dist-upgrade, depending on what else might be blocked
[19:24] <graphixnut> can someone answer a question for me please?
[19:24] <nacc> graphixnut: yes.
[19:24] <CrtxReavr> In the real world, with customers, etc., we can't just upgrade all willy nilly becase we feel like it.
[19:24] <Canofemptyknowle> Can anyone give me a hand to set up dhcp server on ubuntu please?
[19:25] <nacc> CrtxReavr: you are *insecure*
[19:25] <nacc> CrtxReavr: so your customers should be warned that you dont' care about their security?
[19:25] <graphixnut> is it safe to run sudo chmod 777 /usr/lib/python3 -R?
[19:25] <scottjl> lol. i'm in the "real" world and i upgrade my servers on a regular basis.
[19:25] <ikonia> no
[19:25] <nacc> graphixnut: no, that's a bad idea and not necessary.
[19:25] <nacc> Canofemptyknowle: what have you tried?
[19:26] <CrtxReavr> graphixnut, 777 is never safe.
[19:26] <blkadder> CrtxReavr, http://www.rgagnon.com/javadetails/java-0445.html may help\
[19:26] <graphixnut> I ask because when I upgraded all modules with pip lots of them had permission errors
[19:26] <CrtxReavr> blkadder, found that exact page with google already.
[19:26] <nacc> graphixnut: i think you're using pip wrong
[19:26] <graphixnut> is there a better way?
[19:26] <Canofemptyknowle> nacc nothing so far, i just set the virtual machine on lan so i can start configuring the thing
[19:27] <nacc> Canofemptyknowle: ok, so what is your goal (why do you want a dhcp server, etc.)
[19:27] <ikonia> Canofemptyknowle: there are guides on https://help.ubuntu.com and the community wiki too
[19:27] <Canofemptyknowle> They are too vague for what i want to do
[19:27] <CrtxReavr> blkadder, 'cept that this page is about sun java.
[19:27] <ikonia> Canofemptyknowle: what do you need to do thats special
[19:28] <nacc> Canofemptyknowle: you haven't said you've tried to do anything ... so how do you already konw they are too vague?
[19:28] <graphixnut> I ran pip freeze --local | grep -v '^\-e' | cut -d = -f 1  | xargs -n1 pip install -U to upgrade all modules at once
[19:29] <Canofemptyknowle> i mean i haven't tried to do anything with DHCP, because i don't want to mess up and end up having to remake the whole server, i'm using virtual machines, so yeah
[19:29] <nacc> graphixnut: how is that different than `pip -U` ?
[19:29] <ikonia> Canofemptyknowle: so then what's vague about the guides ?
[19:29] <blkadder> CrtxReavr, IIRC OpenJDK was produced by Sun nee Oracle now.
[19:29] <scottjl> Canofemptyknowle: in the worse case you wipe your config for the dhcp server and start again. it isn't going to ruin your whole system.
[19:29] <nacc> Canofemptyknowle: ok, i think you need to step back and explain again what you are trying to do, which you haven't said.
[19:29] <ikonia> Canofemptyknowle: they offer a standard dhcp setup - what is it you need that is different from that
[19:30] <graphixnut> I didnt write the expression but the guy I got it from said that it should only upgrade the ones that need it. Did I get the wrong info?
[19:30] <Canofemptyknowle> ok
[19:30] <Canofemptyknowle> look
[19:30] <ikonia> typing commands blindly into the terminal is never a good idea graphixnut
[19:31] <graphixnut> I dont have much experience with python but I suppose the best option is to create a virtual environment
[19:31] <nacc> graphixnut: it seems strange and unnecessary -- can you pastebin the output from that comamnd, including all the errors?
[19:31] <graphixnut> Id have to run it again
[19:32] <graphixnut> I suppose I should have done more research
[19:32] <scottjl> graphixnut: what is the issue you're having now?
[19:33] <graphixnut> When you create a virtual environment is it created with all existin modules?
[19:33] <scottjl> graphixnut: i've used that command before, but it has problems when it comes to upgrading dependencies.
[19:33] <bodhizazen> Anyone ever seen an error message lik ethis before ?
[19:33] <bodhizazen> E: Release 'fim_closed' for 'xserver-xorg-input-kbd-lts-trusty' was not found
[19:33] <graphixnut> Thats the problem I had which is why I wanted to change the permissions of the folder to see if it made a difference
[19:33] <bodhizazen> fim_closed ? can not find anything on google
[19:33] <Canofemptyknowle> i'm trying to make a server with apache and dhcp services for 2 machines, one of  them is going to be a normal user and the other one the admin for the server, i already set up iptables, and i have a tomb on the server, now i want to set up DHCP so the normal user have a random ip withing 192.168.30.5-50 and a static one for the admin, also i am trying to make on apache a certificate installation so the user only needs to jo
[19:34] <Canofemptyknowle> a restricted area on the website
[19:34] <scottjl> graphixnut: no. don't change perms.
[19:34] <nacc> bodhizazen: lsb-release -a (in a pastebin)?
[19:34] <graphixnut> I wont
[19:34] <scottjl> graphixnut: if you note which modules are having issues upgrading you can do those by hand.
[19:34] <scottjl> graphixnut: that's what i had to do
[19:34] <ikonia> Canofemptyknowle: apache is nothing to do with dhcp, you just want a standard dhcp service (as the guides will show you) with 1 reserved IP address for your admin host
[19:34] <graphixnut> I changed the perms os the entire /usr/lib folder before and screwed the entire install up
[19:34] <ikonia> Canofemptyknowle: so the guides will get you %99 of the way there without any problem
[19:35] <bodhizazen> nacc: lts-trusty
[19:35] <graphixnut> thanm
[19:35] <graphixnut> thanks scottjl
[19:35] <bodhizazen> Looking for apt documentation regarding that error ??
[19:36] <nacc> bodhizazen: no. that's not what i asked for
[19:36] <graphixnut> scottjl: do you know the answer to my question about venvs?
[19:36] <nacc> bodhizazen: if it is what your system outputs, then you're not on ubuntu.
[19:37] <scottjl> graphixnut: no i don't know the answer. sorry
[19:37] <graphixnut> its ok
[19:37] <bodhizazen> It is ubuntu, but I am wondering if you can tell me anything about the meaning of the message or wher to find documentation, I have not seen it before
[19:38] <nacc> bodhizazen: why can't you provide the simple output I asked for?
[19:39] <wedgie> Running Ubuntu 16.04. After updates a couple days ago many Unity keyboard shortcuts no longer work. For example, Ctrl+alt+<arrow> to move workspaces, or Ctrl+Alt+7 (on keypad) to move a window to upper left corner. Any suggestions?
[19:40] <bodhizazen> I am not the one running the system. Why can't you provide an answer ? are you familiar with this error message ? Have you seen it before ? Do you know wher to find documentation ?
[19:40] <nacc> bodhizazen: because i don't believe that message would be emitted by a 'default' ubuntu installation. You have custom repositories, or something else broken.
[19:41] <nacc> bodhizazen: i'm guessing someone edited a file and accidentally inserted garbage into it, or any number of other possibilities.
[19:41] <nacc> bodhizazen: try a `rgrep fim_closed /etc`
[19:44] <bodhizazen> The person who is running the system has mixed repos, many past EOL.  utopic, vivid, wily all EOL , but also trusty and xenial repos
[19:44] <nacc> bodhizazen: 100% unsupported
[19:44] <nacc> bodhizazen: and they probably broke something then.
[19:44] <bodhizazen> Cant run commands as I have no direct access to the system
[19:44] <ikonia> bin that system then
[19:44] <bodhizazen> I am looking for documentation of the error message
[19:45] <ikonia> just bin the host
[19:45] <bodhizazen> https://paste.ubuntu.com/24926846/
[19:45] <ikonia> your box is not supported
[19:46] <bodhizazen> What does '"Release 'fim_closed'" mean ?
[19:46] <nacc> bodhizazen: what command produced that?
[19:46] <bodhizazen> sudo apt-get install libc6:i386
[19:46] <nacc> bodhizazen: as I said, and you seem to be ignoring, it's likely a string this rather poor system adminstrator put in a file, perhaps on accident.
[19:46] <ikonia> why are you doing that ?
[19:46] <ikonia> libc 32 bit install ??
[19:46] <akik> let's be helpful
[19:47] <ikonia> who is not being helpful ?
[19:47] <akik> ikonia: you
[19:47] <ikonia> akik: by asking him why he's typing unusual commands ?
[19:47] <bodhizazen> I am not ignoring you, I am asking where to find documentation on apt and that sepcific error message
[19:47] <ikonia> or by telling him his machine is in an unsupported state and should re-install
[19:47] <ikonia> bodhizazen: why are you typing that command ?
[19:47] <bodhizazen> I am not trying to debug or fix anything
[19:47] <nacc> bodhizazen: that error message is using a string from the system
[19:47] <nacc> bodhizazen: then we can't really help you, to be honest
[19:47] <bodhizazen> I am looking for documentation
[19:48] <nacc> bodhizazen: i'm 95% sure 'fim_closed' is a string to be found on the system in question
[19:48] <ioria> bodhizazen, http://plg.uwaterloo.ca/~yaboulna/thesis_results/fimi/fp-zhu/
[19:52] <akik> bodhizazen: try if you can find that fim_closed string in /etc: sudo grep -r -i fim_closed /etc
[19:53] <nacc> akik: i suggested that about 10 minutes ago. they aren't at the computer in question and seem unable to do so.
[19:53] <bodhizazen> OK, will look.
[19:53] <ikonia> why is this even a discussion?
[19:54] <ikonia> the host is screwed, it's had mixed repos/versions/sources in it
[19:54] <bodhizazen> ioria: what is that exactly ? I see the fim_colsed but it ia binary
[19:54] <ioria> bodhizazen, i have no idea
[19:54] <ikonia> get it back into a supported state with a clean install of supported packages from supported repos
[19:54] <akik> ikonia: if you don't want to help, then don't
[19:54] <ikonia> akik: no - thats not quite right
[19:54] <bodhizazen> It is a discussion only because you are trying to fix something which probably is broken and I am not trying to fix
[19:54] <nacc> bodhizazen: what are you trying to do?
[19:54] <ikonia> bodhizazen: ok - great, so the answer is "clean install from a supported source and don't mix the repos"
[19:55] <akik> not everybody is using ubuntu that comes from the installation iso and NEVER installs anything else
[19:55] <bodhizazen> I am asking for a link to documentation on apt / apt-get errors so I can read about the error E: Release 'fim_closed'
[19:55] <nacc> bodhizazen: you want to know where that message comes from? it's apt saying that your system is tryign to use a release 'fim_closed'.
[19:55] <DaVinciIT> Hi all. Ubuntu server 16.04.2 LTS.   I've expanded a disk.  Used GPArted to extend partition.  Now I see allocated space with command "sudo parted /dev/sda print free"  . I dont see the same space with "df -all -h" . can you help me please?
[19:55] <nacc> bodhizazen: the string 'fim_closed' is coming *from* your system
[19:55] <ikonia> akik: correct, however we don't supported mixed repos from other distros
[19:55] <Mrokii> jhutchins_wk: What did you mean with "sounds like it may be intended for SMS messaging"?
[19:56] <nacc> akik: to be clear, this is not extenral repos, etc., it's mixing trusty and xenial (at least)
[19:56] <bodhizazen> nacc: that is exactly what I am asking, where the message came from
[19:57] <nacc> bodhizazen: what message? the 'fim_closed', as I said, is from your system somewhere
[19:57] <nacc> bodhizazen: the other message is a typical apt message
[19:59] <bodhizazen> So 'fim_closed' is not an apt error per se, but likely represents a typo or misconfigured sources.lst
[20:00] <ikonia> your sources are probaly looking at an EOL release
[20:00] <ikonia> and that release is "closed"
[20:00] <ikonia> so there is no upgrade options (which is one of the thing apt will do) - I'm assuming thats what's going on
[20:01] <nacc> bodhizazen: that's my guess -- or it's what ikonia said, and it's a response from the archives for asking for invalid repositories (eol)
[20:01] <nacc> bodhizazen: it's impossible to say without actual output from the system
[20:02] <bodhizazen> I pastebined the actual output , lol
[20:02] <ikonia> it doesn't really matter in the end
[20:02] <ikonia> as your system is in an unsupported state
[20:02] <nacc> bodhizazen: from the rgrep?
[20:03] <bodhizazen> I am looking for documentation, my guess would be repos that are EOL, but does not make sense for supported repos "E: Release 'fim_closed' for 'xserver-xorg-input-kbd-lts-trusty' was not found"
[20:03] <bodhizazen> so, I am looking for documentation on the apt error, lol
[20:03] <bodhizazen> It is not my system and I am not trying to fix it
[20:03] <nacc> bodhizazen: so you're just wasting the support channel's time?
[20:03] <ikonia> bodhizazen: ok - so the apt documentation should be available on the web
[20:04] <bodhizazen> I am merely looking for documentation as google has failed me
[20:04] <nacc> bodhizazen: documentation for something you're going to fix?
[20:04] <ikonia> bodhizazen: http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[20:04] <ikonia> bodhizazen: that links off to some specific sections you can dig into
[20:04] <bodhizazen> no nacc , I am telling you I am looking for documentation
[20:04] <bodhizazen> If you don't know, dont answer
[20:05] <bodhizazen> I have already told you more then one I am not looking for a fix
[20:05] <nacc> bodhizazen: i don't understand what you think you are going to find. You have an error message that tells you what the error is.
[20:05] <ikonia> bodhizazen: thats fine, I've just sent you a link to the upstream docs
[20:05] <ikonia> bodhizazen: that should give you a huge level of information to get into
[20:06] <ikonia> bodhizazen: also https://wiki.debian.org/Apt
[20:06] <ikonia> again it branches off
[20:07] <bodhizazen> ikonia: thanks, I read those, but there is no "fim_closed" in the documentaion
[20:07] <ikonia> bodhizazen: no, there won't be
[20:07] <ikonia> bodhizazen: as it's a local configuration
[20:08] <ikonia> bodhizazen: so you need to read them to understand how it works - then apply that to your systems configuration
[20:08] <nacc> bodhizazen: stop. i have told you, as akik has, to grep the system in question.
[20:08] <nacc> bodhizazen: that is not a string from apt, it's a string from your system
[20:08] <ikonia> I think this is done
[20:09] <ikonia> he wanted the documentation, he has the documentation
[20:09] <nacc> bodhizazen: took me all of 5 minutes: https://anonscm.debian.org/git/apt/apt.git/tree/apt-pkg/cacheset.cc#n487
[20:09] <ikonia> his machine is unsupported and he's not looking for a fix
[20:09] <nacc> ikonia: agreed
[20:10] <bodhizazen> nacc: now that is the answer, lol
[20:10] <bodhizazen> probably could have found it earlier if you listened, but thank you both for the help
[20:10] <nacc> bodhizazen: it's the same answer i've been giving you for the last however many minutes
[20:11] <bodhizazen> no it is not, lol
[20:12] <ikonia> https://askubuntu.com/questions/928202/sudo-apt-get-install-libc6i386
[20:12] <ikonia> looks like it was someone elses question and he was trying to answer it for them and paste our answers into it ??
[20:13] <nacc> ikonia: lol
[20:13] <ikonia> which would explain why he didn't have access to the system
[20:13] <ikonia> as it's someone elses question, I'm not sure why he was trying to do this
[20:14]  * nacc wonders if it's possible to report that to the cc
[20:15] <nacc> ah, AU isn't under CC anyways
[20:16] <DaVinciIT> hi all. ubuntu server.please help me. with parted command: "Disk /dev/mapper/ubuntu--server--openproject--vg-root: 19.4GB"  with df -h command : "/dev/mapper/ubuntu--server--openproject--vg-root  6.3G  5.8G  244M  97% /"
[20:16] <DaVinciIT> why ?
[20:16] <DaVinciIT> 19.4GB <=> 6.3GB
[20:16] <ikonia> DaVinciIT: parted command ?
[20:16] <ikonia> parted shouldn't be used on logical volumes
[20:16] <DaVinciIT> "sudo parted -l"
[20:17] <ikonia> parted shouldn't be used on logical volumes
[20:17] <DaVinciIT> I need to expand "/dev/mapper/ubuntu--server--openproject--vg-root"
[20:17] <ikonia> parted shouldn't be used on logical volumes
[20:17] <nacc> DaVinciIT: I think you're mixing up tools
[20:17] <DaVinciIT> ikonia thank you. I dont know how to.
[20:17] <ikonia> DaVinciIT: how many free pe's do you have
[20:17] <DaVinciIT> I follow this guide "https://technology.amis.nl/2017/01/30/ubuntu-vm-virtualbox-increase-size-disk-make-smaller-exports-distribution/"
[20:18] <ikonia> lets ignore guides
[20:18] <ikonia> how many free pe's do you have
[20:18] <DaVinciIT> ikonia: wich command have I to run please ?
[20:19] <DaVinciIT> Filesystem                                        Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[20:19] <DaVinciIT> udev                                              477M     0  477M   0% /dev
[20:19] <DaVinciIT> tmpfs                                             100M   11M   89M  11% /run
[20:19] <DaVinciIT> /dev/mapper/ubuntu--server--openproject--vg-root  6.3G  5.8G  244M  97% /
[20:19] <DaVinciIT> tmpfs                                             497M     0  497M   0% /dev/shm
[20:19] <DaVinciIT> tmpfs                                             5.0M     0  5.0M   0% /run/lock
[20:19] <DaVinciIT> tmpfs                                             497M     0  497M   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
[20:19] <ikonia> DaVinciIT: don't flood the channel - if in doubt ask
[20:19] <DaVinciIT> sorry.
[20:20] <ikonia> DaVinciIT: vgdisplay should show you the free pe's in your volume group
[20:20] <DaVinciIT> I dont kno wthe command to reply to your question.
[20:20] <ikonia> DaVinciIT: ok so say "I don't konw"
[20:20] <ikonia> or "I don't konw"
[20:20] <ikonia> know !!1
[20:20] <DaVinciIT> PE Size 4 MiiB
[20:20] <ikonia> DaVinciIT: no, thats the size (good to know) but how many free are there
[20:21] <DaVinciIT> (right) 0 zero
[20:21] <ikonia> so you can't extend in that volume group then
[20:21] <ikonia> as you've allocated all the space
[20:21] <DaVinciIT>  Alloc PE / Size       4877 / 19.05 GiB
[20:21] <ikonia> DaVinciIT: doesn't matter
[20:21] <ikonia> DaVinciIT: if you have 0 pe free
[20:22] <ikonia> you cannot extend
[20:22] <DaVinciIT> can I solve with GParted ?
[20:22] <ikonia> no
[20:22] <DaVinciIT> :) I've to die ?
[20:22] <ikonia> no
[20:22] <ikonia> you need to find a device with some more space and add it to the volume group
[20:22] <DaVinciIT> good news
[20:23] <ikonia> DaVinciIT: could you pastebin the output of df -h in pastebin.ubuntu.complease
[20:23] <cwre> How can I get the most up to date version of Audit? I'm on 16.04 and it's woefully out of date.
[20:23] <ikonia> pastebin.ubuntu.com
[20:23] <ikonia> cwre: find a repo you trust that hosts it
[20:24] <cwre> Where do I find more repos?
[20:24] <ikonia> no idea, you have to find one you know and trust, not just a random one from some random guy
[20:24] <DaVinciIT> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24927059/
[20:24] <ikonia> DaVinciIT: could you pastebin vgdisplay please too
[20:25] <DaVinciIT> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24927072/
[20:25]  * drgx2x 
[20:26] <Richard_Cavell> Is there a way for me to temporarily change the language that I'm typing in?  I speak English natively but I frequently like to google things in Japanese.
[20:26] <Scunizi> I'm currently stuck at 1360x768 resolution and have tried adding 1920x1200 but it doesn't seem to like it with errors thrown by xrandr. Can anyone walk me through adding the resolution and getting it to stick?
[20:26] <ikonia> Richard_Cavell: the desktop has the language applet
[20:26] <ikonia> Richard_Cavell: I don't advice it though as it can confuse the system a lot
[20:26] <ikonia> DaVinciIT: so something is a bit odd there
[20:26] <ikonia> DaVinciIT: I wonder if you have a massive swap partition
[20:26] <ikonia> DaVinciIT: could you please pastebin lvdisplay
[20:27] <Richard_Cavell> ikonia: I'm using Ubuntu MATE and I don't see where it is.  I can change the menus etc but that requires me to log out and in again.  That's not what I want.
[20:27] <DaVinciIT> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24927091/
[20:27] <ikonia> Richard_Cavell: no idea with mate
[20:27] <ikonia> Richard_Cavell: again, it's not something I'd advise you do
[20:28] <Richard_Cavell> OS X lets me do that no problem...
[20:28] <ikonia> DaVinciIT: ahhh
[20:28] <ikonia> Richard_Cavell: you're not using OS X
[20:28] <ikonia> DaVinciIT: have you tried to extend this before ?
[20:28] <nacc> Richard_Cavell: i think you are asking to just change your input language?
[20:28] <ikonia> DaVinciIT: it looks like your volume group has been extended but not the file system
[20:28] <DaVinciIT> never ... I've follow the istruction in the site: https://technology.amis.nl/2017/01/30/ubuntu-vm-virtualbox-increase-size-disk-make-smaller-exports-distribution/
[20:29] <Richard_Cavell> nacc: Yes
[20:29] <DaVinciIT> ikonia: thank you very much. yes something like that... I think it's a strange situation.
[20:29] <nacc> Richard_Cavell: i'd add jp as a language (often in the settings, not sure for mate specifically) and then there is (iirc) a applet to switch the input language. https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/17508/add-keyboard-input-language-to-ubuntu/ ?
[20:29] <ikonia> DaVinciIT: lets take a leap of faith
[20:30] <DaVinciIT> ? :/
[20:30] <DaVinciIT> ikonia: do you think we can repair ?
[20:30] <ikonia> DaVinciIT: sudo resize2fs /dev/ubuntu-server-openproject-vg/root
[20:30] <ikonia> DaVinciIT: I think you're about to get lucky
[20:31] <DaVinciIT> ooookkey :) I can backup the entire VM before do it.
[20:31] <ikonia> DaVinciIT: great
[20:31] <DaVinciIT> I'll be back in 5 minutes. hope to find you here. thank you very much for your interest and help
[20:31] <ikonia> DaVinciIT: no problem
[20:36] <Mrokii> Does anybody know if I can reset my forgotten password for kdetalk.net, and how?
[20:36] <ikonia> Mrokii: bit offtopic for here
[20:36] <ikonia> Mrokii: try the kde support channels
[20:37] <Mrokii> ikonia: Okay.
[20:37] <genii> Mrokii: "If you encounter problems, or simply have questions, you can send a mail to sysadmin@kde.org." https://kdetalk.net/
[20:38] <Mrokii> genii: Thanks, I missed that. Too hot a day to think too clearly. :)
[20:43] <DaVinciIT> ikonia: would you married me ? :D https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24927212/
[20:43] <DaVinciIT> ikonia: thank you very much! it works :) thank you, you are great!
[20:54] <Scunizi> I used xrandr newmode and addmode.. the new resolution added successfully to the VGA but not HDMI which is what I specified.. any help resolving this?
[20:56] <marenz> Greetings
[20:57] <marenz> I have a hybrid-video card in my laptop which I can switch using prime-select nvidia|intel. Is there a way that I can have two parallel sessions running one running with intel, the other with nvidia, instead of having to log out of the first one to switch?
[21:02] <genii> marenz: These GPU can use either one or the other but not both at the the same time
[21:03] <marenz> hmm from what I understand, the free driver can even do it per-application though?
[21:04] <marenz> the example shows stuff like   DRI_PRIME=1 glxinfo | grep OpenGL
[21:04] <marenz> to enable it. But the closed one can't do this
[21:05] <dr_horrible> quit
[21:06]  * jhutchins_wk loans dr_horrible a /
[21:12] <akik> marenz was quick to leave. you can actually accomplish that with primusrun
[21:14] <supremum> I'm having problem with this keyboard layout i created. I'm able to select it, but it doesn't work.
[21:15] <supremum> https://pastebin.com/XKGv9eFG
[21:16] <fpghost84> if i do sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade, and install all updates, why is it that running the gui "update-manager &" still shows lots of upgrades?
[21:16] <supremum> when I press <AE03> i don't get 1 but instead the default 3
[21:16] <fpghost84> what are these extra upgrades the gui is offering that the cli doesnt?
[21:20] <supremum> now it works, i had to replace ! with exclam
[21:20] <EldonMcGuinness> fpghost84: perhaps a cache of what needed updates before the CLI update?
[21:21] <tomreyn> fpghost84: because - i think - the gui will run the equivalent of "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" rather than "sudo apt-get upgrade".
[21:22] <fpghost84> tomreyn: ah thanks
[21:22] <EldonMcGuinness> Could always run that and check again to know for sure.
[21:23] <fpghost84> yes, will do thanks
[21:23] <fpghost84> another question: I'm using the upwork app on ubuntu 16.04 and the systray icon is missing? is it possible to enable systray icons on xenial?
[21:23] <fpghost84> most of the guides online seem to be for earlier versions of ubuntu
[21:27] <tomreyn> !info upwork
[21:27] <tomreyn> !info upwork xenial
[21:28] <tomreyn> apparently that's 3rd party software, so ask the developers to support libindicator.
[21:28] <EldonMcGuinness> o.o
[21:30] <fpghost84> tomreyn, yes it is 3rd party
[21:31] <fpghost84> their only advice is https://support.upwork.com/hc/en-us/articles/211064108-Linux-Troubleshooting-for-Upwork-Desktop-App#icon
[21:31] <fpghost84> i'm not sure from that if it's supportd on 16.04 or not
[21:31] <fpghost84> as doing what they suggested didnt fix it anyway
[21:33] <nacc> fpghost84: the point being it's not supported here regardless
[21:34] <fpghost84> nacc: yes, I get it's not official etc. I will ask them too I suppose. I just thought maybe there'd be a simple workaround like installing libappindicator or some such
[21:34] <tomreyn> fpghost84: i don't think we can help you with this here. talk to the developers and be aware of the risks involved in using 3rd party software.
[21:34] <fpghost84> (if this was a generic thing not specific to upwork)
[21:34] <fpghost84> ok
[21:37] <tomreyn> fpghost84: this discusses the risks https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/FAQ#Unofficial_Software
[21:45] <fpghost84> tomreyn, yeah I get it, upwork is a reputable company though
[21:45] <fpghost84> and anyway, I need it for work and dont really have a choice in the matter
[21:56] <isene> Ubuntu 17.04 - On booting recovery mode and choosing networking, the network won't start (it complains about missing /etc/reolv.conf even though there is the usual symlink /etc/resov.conf -> ../run/resolvconf/resolv.conf). The network works just fine on normal boot. How to I get networking operational when I boot in recovery mode? I have tried ' sudo systemctl start systemd-networkd ' but it just hangs...
[22:06] <drgx2x> hy
[22:13] <dckx> hi everyone, anyone experience configuring touchpads? I am trying to setup mine (elantech) using syncliet
[22:18] <OS-29927> join #offsec
[22:18] <kristian_on_linu> hi ppl ... I think this is my ten year with Ubuntu, and I'm brought to my knees by a dependency problem :(
[22:19] <kristian_on_linu> apt-get update brings me this at the end: https://paste.ee/p/Aool9
[22:20] <Mathisen> kristian_on_linu, can you paste full output from " sudo apt update && sudp apt upgrade "
[22:21] <kristian_on_linu> hi Mathisen ... sure
[22:21] <Mathisen> kristian_on_linu, also are you using any other repos then default ones ?
[22:21] <kristian_on_linu> yes, some
[22:21] <Mathisen> post output
[22:21] <kristian_on_linu> but I tried removing them all and the problem persisted
[22:21] <kristian_on_linu> hang on
[22:23] <kristian_on_linu> apt-get update: https://paste.ee/p/d5gCy
[22:23] <Mathisen> dont use apt-get use just apt there can be a diffrence with your issue there
[22:24] <kristian_on_linu> apt-get upgrade: https://paste.ee/p/EjnBG
[22:24] <nacc> kristian_on_linu: what is the dependency problem?
[22:24] <nacc> kristian_on_linu: you have not posted any errors, only 5 warnings
[22:25] <glitsj16> dckx: hi, what seems to be the problem using synclient? Just ask your question, people will respond if they have something relevant to contribute :)
[22:25] <nacc> kristian_on_linu: in a pastebin, can you do `apt policy python-cffi-backend-api-max` and `apt-cache show python-cffi-backend-api-max`
[22:25] <nacc> kristian_on_linu: that's not "some", that's a crazy amount of third party package repositories
[22:26] <dckx> glitsj16: thanks
[22:27] <kristian_on_linu> nacc, first one gives: E: Invalid operation policy
[22:27] <dckx> so my issue is my touchpad has some sort of delay... If I move my finger, it takes a little amount of motion over the tcouahpad for the cursoor to start moving, something likely to avoid unwanted cursor movement when one taps. I assume this is something that can be configured, but cannot figuere out how.. I don't see which synclient parameter controls that delay.  https://www.x.org/archive/X11R7.5/doc/man/man4/synaptics.4.html
[22:27] <Mathisen> kristian_on_linu,  just curius did just apt also show warnings ?
[22:27] <nacc> kristian_on_linu: err, `apt-cache policy ...` (sorry forgot you were on trusty)
[22:28] <kristian_on_linu> here's the other one ... notice that I could only do it for python-cffi-backend
[22:28] <kristian_on_linu> https://paste.ee/p/CseaS
[22:29] <nacc> kristian_on_linu: oh it's symbolic, ok
[22:29] <nacc> kristian_on_linu: please provide the policy too, then for python-cffi-backend
[22:29] <nacc> kristian_on_linu: if i had to guess, it's a poorly written package
[22:29] <kristian_on_linu> nacc, the other one is here: https://paste.ee/p/YbYew
[22:29] <nacc> kristian_on_linu: you installed that by hand via dpkg?
[22:30] <kristian_on_linu> "Breaks: python-cffi (<< 1)" ... hmm
[22:30] <kristian_on_linu> nacc, I don't think so ... but I may have
[22:30] <nacc> kristian_on_linu: well, what is the issue you are having then? you're using some third party package
[22:31] <nacc> kristian_on_linu: but no errors have been shown yet
[22:31] <Mathisen> thats why im curius if apt also show warnings as it can depend on apt version
[22:31] <Mathisen> but no answer :(
[22:32] <glitsj16> dckx: have you already tried some of those parameters? Would you mind providing a pastebin of your currently active synclient settings?
[22:33] <kristian_on_linu> when I try to install python3-pip, I get this: https://paste.ee/p/Pu0uw
[22:34] <nacc> kristian_on_linu: `apt-cache policy python3-pip`
[22:34] <nacc> kristian_on_linu: you can also try: sudo apt-get install python3-pip python3-setuptools (basically, resolve the dependency for apt, see why python3-setuptools won't install)
[22:34] <kristian_on_linu> nacc, here: https://paste.ee/p/OVi9O
[22:35] <kristian_on_linu>  python3-setuptools : Depends: python3-pkg-resources (= 3.3-1ubuntu2) but 18.4-2pmo0~trusty is to be installed
[22:35] <nacc> kristian_on_linu: yeah, you've sort of screwed your system up by having all these third party repositories
[22:35] <nacc> kristian_on_linu: apt-cache policy python3-pkg-resources
[22:37] <nacc> kristian_on_linu: it's possible that: `sudo apt-get install python3-pip python3-setuptools python3-pkg-resources=3.3.1-ubuntu2` will work (or will again show the dependencies blocking apt, keep iterating until you can fix it or you realize that you can't)
[22:37] <dckx> glitsj16: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24928411/
[22:37] <dckx> glitsj16: I haven't tried yet as I am not quite sure which conf file to edit
[22:37] <kristian_on_linu> nacc, https://paste.ee/p/6Fxel
[22:38] <kristian_on_linu> E: Version '3.3.1-ubuntu2' for 'python3-pkg-resources' was not found
[22:38] <nacc> kristian_on_linu: err, sorry, 3.3-1ubuntu2
[22:38] <nacc> kristian_on_linu: yeah, you have installed so many packages that are not ubuntu at this point, it seems
[22:39] <nacc> kristian_on_linu: particularly core system ones like python itself
[22:39] <nacc> kristian_on_linu: i don't know why you would do that, but it's really not a good idea
[22:39] <nacc> kristian_on_linu: and it seems like maybe you manually just 'removed' some repositories rather than purging them properly
[22:39] <nacc> kristian_on_linu: so now apt is unable to tell you where you got the packages from
[22:39] <kristian_on_linu> ship of Perseus ...
[22:39] <kristian_on_linu> I see
[22:40] <kristian_on_linu> yeah, I just rm'd the files
[22:40] <nacc> kristian_on_linu: which is incorrect.
[22:40] <kristian_on_linu> I see
[22:40] <nacc> kristian_on_linu: you had to do that as root, and you should know what you are doing as root, esp. things like `rm` which cannot be undone
[22:40] <uxfi> hi kristian_on_linu  sir
[22:40] <glitsj16> dckx: thanks for the paste, having a look.. Well, you can edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf, but personally I just put all the synclient commands I want in a small shell script and call that via an autostart desktop file on login.. several options here.. give me a few minutes to look at your settings and I'll report back here
[22:41] <nacc> kristian_on_linu: try `sudo apt-get install python3-pip python3-setuptools python3-pkg-resources=3.3-1ubuntu2`
[22:41] <nacc> kristian_on_linu: i'm guessing there will be more broken deps at that point
[22:41] <nacc> kristian_on_linu: i would suggest reinstalling, tbh, but you can of course limp along with the above-style commands
[22:42] <kristian_on_linu> nacc, a reinstall is probably due ... but I need a working system atm
[22:45] <glitsj16> dckx: okay, before deciding on where you can put the synclient settings, let's try to get it to behave he way you want. in a terminal, run 'synclient FingerLow=25; synclient FingerHigh=30' for starters and see if that does something positive for you
[22:50] <snkcld> i installed selinux, but now when i want to uninstall it, i get this https://pastebin.com/raw/H5giztnL
[22:50] <snkcld> after installing selinux, then attemping to uninstall, it tells me that gnupg has unmet dependencies
[22:51] <nacc> snkcld: why would you ever script an apt removal
[22:51] <nacc> snkcld: without at least knowing what it tried to do
[22:51] <snkcld> nacc: who said i didnt look at the output before executing the apt-get remove portion?
[22:51] <snkcld> would you like me to include that portion of the terminal output?
[22:51] <nacc> snkcld: yes.
[22:51] <snkcld> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/BZZYHgRj/
[22:51] <snkcld> nacc: no problem ^
[22:52] <nacc> snkcld: it's not clear that it's a problem from the remove
[22:52] <dckx> glitsj16: sorry, I had to go check on my baby and now I gotta feed her. Will be back in a while and will check those settings, thanks!
[22:53] <nacc> snkcld: `sudo apt-get -f install` in a pastebin
[22:53] <snkcld> ok
[22:53] <snkcld> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/3KGy66Xp/
[22:53] <nacc> snkcld: apt-get should have spat out a much larger dialog saying what it was going to do, why isn't that in the past?
[22:53] <nacc> *paste
[22:54] <nacc> snkcld: and reviewing the *explicit* list of pacakges you told apt-get to remove is not hte same as reviewing the actual list apt decides on
[22:54] <nacc> snkcld: so again *why* would ever script this without acknowledgemnt..
[22:54] <snkcld> uh
[22:55] <snkcld> so this list that apt decides on, how do you find that?
[22:56] <nacc> snkcld: you don't pass --yes to apt.
[22:56] <nacc> snkcld: you actually interact with the tool you are running as root! :)
[22:56] <snkcld> ...
[22:56] <snkcld> ok
[22:56] <snkcld> tell, you what, il lremove the --yes for you
[22:56] <snkcld> and ill make it more explicit if it helps
[22:56] <snkcld> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/lwe7AiDr/
[22:57] <nacc> snkcld: 16.04?
[22:58] <snkcld> nacc: 17.04
[23:00] <snkcld> nacc: im goign to narrow down which specific package is causing this
[23:02] <nacc> snkcld: in a fresh 17.04 container (and even 16.04 and in 17.10): http://paste.ubuntu.com/24928560/
[23:03] <nacc> snkcld: even if it wasn't removing core functionality in 17.04, apt-get and apt both prompt by default with what they are going to do and ask you to confirm
[23:05] <texla> Trying to erase a usb 16gb drive I use the following sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc bs=64 count=1 the icon of the usb is in the unity if i open it there are still working files present
[23:05] <nacc> texla: you erased 64 bytes
[23:05] <nacc> texla: 1 input block of size 64 bytes was read from /dev/zero and written to /dev/sdc
[23:06] <nacc> texla: so not sure why you thought that would erase the drive
[23:07] <Jordan_U> texla: You've zeroed out the area that contains the first stage of a bootloader in a BIOS based system. The partition table and everything else on the drive would remain untouched and fine.
[23:07] <nacc> snkcld: so i think at some point you must have set or passed --allow-remove-essential?
[23:07] <nacc> snkcld: i do see in my paste that gnupg would be removed if all those were removed
[23:08] <snkcld> nacc: hmm
[23:08] <texla> nacc, This is the command i was given to erase the drives
[23:08] <snkcld> possibly inadvertently
[23:08] <nacc> texla: given by whom?
[23:08] <nacc> snkcld: there really should never be 'inadvertent' actions as root
[23:08] <nacc> snkcld: that's an easy way to make your system unusable
[23:09] <Jordan_U> texla: Whoever gave it to you was mistaken. What is your end goal? In general I would recommend just using GParted to handle re-partitioning of drives.
[23:09] <snkcld> i knew i shouldnt have said inadvertent
[23:09] <texla> nacc, An individual on the channel quite sometimes ago
[23:10] <nacc> snkcld: e.g., trying to remove git shows: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24928584/
[23:11] <texla> Jordan_U, I am trying to erase the pen drive to add another distro
[23:12] <Jordan_U> texla: You shouldn't need to "erase" it before preparing the USB to be a LiveUSB.
[23:15] <Jordan_U> texla: Here are the official instructions for creating an Ubuntu LiveUSB: https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu?_ga=2.217103826.571851732.1498165463-1517228593.1498165463#0
[23:21] <texla> Jordan_U, I can understand repartioning but the usb will not boot that is why i was trying to delete I want to use Rufus to install distro
[23:23] <Jordan_U> texla: You shouldn't need to "erase" a drive before using Rufus.
[23:24] <texla> Jordan_U, Okay thanks for the help
[23:24] <Jordan_U> texla: You're welcome.