xubuntu48d | what`s this | 05:09 |
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Andrio | A cliché. | 05:14 |
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dirtysnake | I had a question for you guys. I just installed xubuntu with an uefi install. On boot how every I only get pure blue and yellow screens on my monitors. | 08:11 |
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xubuntu11i | Hi could you help me ..how can i play windows games on my computer (Xubuntu) | 13:23 |
diogenes_ | xubuntu11i, via playonlinux | 13:24 |
xubuntu11i | diogenes ..okay . i should download wine also ?!! | 13:25 |
diogenes_ | xubuntu11i, playonlinux downloads it automatically and besides there you can choose many wine versions and open a specific game with a specific wine version | 13:26 |
xubuntu11i | diogenes ..okay thanks a lot | 13:27 |
diogenes_ | yw | 13:27 |
xubuntu11i | ^_^ sorry but the last Q ..i want to know if there is infringement of windows'rights if i use the virtual box | 13:31 |
diogenes_ | xubuntu11i, `about virtualbox you can ask in: /j #vbox | 13:33 |
xubuntu11i | diogenes .sorry i didn't understand | 13:35 |
pynthon | Hello, I just installed Xubuntu. Is it possible to go to the desktop when I do alt+tab? | 14:48 |
Andrio | You can change the shortcut in the 'Window settings' (or something like that) settings page | 14:49 |
Andrio | not sure whether you can make the desktop appear in the Alt+Tab list like it does in some versions of Windows though. | 14:49 |
pynthon | Andrio: Ahh yes I mean like in Ubuntu with Unity you can see the desktop too | 14:50 |
Andrio | mm | 14:50 |
xtuber | I have question about the swap file | 14:53 |
xtuber | I have 24G of RAM and 2G of the swap file | 14:54 |
xtuber | now I have: free -h | 14:55 |
xtuber | total used free shared buff/cache available | 14:55 |
xtuber | Mem: 23G 3,2G 698M 152M 19G 19G | 14:55 |
xtuber | Swap: 2,0G 1,6M 2,0G | 14:55 |
xtuber | anybody know why I need the swap file? | 15:13 |
juliank | xtuber: Well, only you can know if you need a swap file | 15:23 |
xtuber | juliank, I mean why system uses swap if it have 24G ram? | 15:24 |
juliank | http://blog.surgut.co.uk/2016/12/swapfiles-by-default-in-ubuntu.html | 15:24 |
juliank | xtuber: Why not? You have 24GB of RAM, I'm sure you also have enough storage to spend 2GB on a swap file | 15:24 |
juliank | Gotta pick some defaults, and 2GB swap file seems reasonable | 15:26 |
xtuber | yes I have 1Tb hard disk, but I thought swap need then ram is not enough | 15:27 |
juliank | Well, if you use 24 GB of RAM, you need it. If you don't, you might have bought too much RAM :) | 15:28 |
juliank | There's more logic in https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2016-November/039538.html | 15:28 |
juliank | Imagine a workstation running 3 VMs with 6GB of RAM each - you definitely want swap at that point. | 15:29 |
juliank | And a swap file is a good default, better than a swap partitition. If you don't need it, you can easily remove it | 15:29 |
* juliank runs without swap. Always found swap to be counter-productive because it was mostly swapping when memory leaking, and then ended up OOM killing anyway, just with a delay of 10 minutes or so | 15:32 | |
juliank | On the other hand, without snap it sometimes seems to lock up completely when running out of memory, so not sure which is better. | 15:32 |
juliank | Summary: Won't probably make much difference if you use it or not | 15:33 |
xtuber | now I uses only 3.5G/23.4G Ram. why my system need the swap file too? | 15:34 |
juliank | xtuber: Why do you have 24 GB of RAM? | 15:35 |
juliank | Once you can answer that question, you can consider if you need a swap file or not | 15:35 |
juliank | Well, need is a strong word, more like want | 15:35 |
juliank | xtuber: Or do you mean: Why did it swap something? | 15:36 |
juliank | As I just saw that it swapped 1.6 MB of memory | 15:36 |
juliank | But as you might have noticed, your RAM is mostly used now for caching; so only 700 MB are free, so the kernel swaps out some long unused memory to make more space for caching | 15:37 |
xtuber | I thought I need not a swap file then I set up 24G of ram. But then I installed my xubuntu the system itself set up the swap file | 15:37 |
juliank | It *always* sets up a swap file | 15:37 |
juliank | Even if you had 1 TB of RAM, it would still setup a 2GB swap file. | 15:38 |
juliank | Because it might make sense for your work load, and it's easy to remove. | 15:38 |
juliank | I tried explaining that three times now, and the blog post and email also explain the reasoning behind this fairly well. | 15:39 |
xtuber | juliank, thanks you for your patience | 15:41 |
juliank | xtuber: I'm still curious why you have 24 GB of RAM, do you plan to run tons of VMs on it or something? | 15:42 |
juliank | :) | 15:42 |
juliank | I just upgraded my laptop from 8GB to 16GB because I had trouble when running Android Studio with emulator and chrome with some tabs at the same time. | 15:43 |
juliank | But even 12 GB would have been enough, so I wonder what people do with so much (relatively speaking) memory :) | 15:44 |
xtuber | I set up it for don't look at htop every time then I had open many tabs in my firefox for example | 15:44 |
juliank | Ah, you keep thousands of tabs open? | 15:44 |
juliank | Like my friend who has 500 tabs or so open, and firefox eats 1.2 GB of RAM and 25% CPU constantly | 15:45 |
xtuber | no. I has open about 25 tabs. and it uses about 5G of ram | 15:46 |
xtuber | I had 8G of ram and my lubuntu 17.04 had slowed down. and I had bought 16G | 15:48 |
dirtysnake | / | 19:34 |
pynthon | Hello | 21:07 |
pynthon | When I use sublime text on xubuntu and type " I get ¨ | 21:08 |
pynthon | Does somebody knows how to fix it? I already Googled my @ss off but no luck | 21:09 |
zincing | A question about OpenVPN. Current release is 2.4.3 and old stable is 2.3.17. In Xubuntu I find 2.3.10. Can I add a repository to either move to 2.3.17 or 2.4.3? | 22:21 |
zincing | Thanks in advance! | 22:21 |
Unit193 | zincing: Not an answer to your question, but you may want to keep an eye on https://bugs.debian.org/865555 | 22:50 |
ubottu | Debian bug 865555 in wnpp "RFA: openvpn -- virtual private network daemon" [Normal,Open] | 22:50 |
zincing | Unit193: Thanks a zillion. I duckduckgo'ed and finally found https://community.openvpn.net/openvpn/wiki/OpenvpnSoftwareRepos | 22:51 |
zincing | I'm now running OpenVPN 2.4.3 :) | 22:52 |
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