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xubuntu48dwhat`s this05:09
AndrioA cliché.05:14
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dirtysnakeI had a question for you guys. I just installed xubuntu with an uefi install. On boot how every I only get pure blue and yellow screens on my monitors.08:11
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xubuntu11iHi could  you help me ..how can i play windows games on my computer (Xubuntu)13:23
diogenes_xubuntu11i, via playonlinux13:24
xubuntu11idiogenes ..okay . i should download wine also ?!!13:25
diogenes_xubuntu11i, playonlinux downloads it automatically and besides there you can choose many wine versions and open a specific game with a specific wine version13:26
xubuntu11idiogenes ..okay thanks a lot13:27
diogenes_yw13:27
xubuntu11i^_^ sorry but the last Q ..i want to know if there is infringement of windows'rights if i use the virtual box13:31
diogenes_xubuntu11i, `about virtualbox you can ask in: /j #vbox13:33
xubuntu11idiogenes .sorry i didn't understand13:35
pynthonHello, I just installed Xubuntu. Is it possible to go to the desktop when I do alt+tab?14:48
AndrioYou can change the shortcut in the 'Window settings' (or something like that) settings page14:49
Andrionot sure whether you can make the desktop appear in the Alt+Tab list like it does in some versions of Windows though.14:49
pynthonAndrio: Ahh yes I mean like in Ubuntu with Unity you can see the desktop too14:50
Andriomm14:50
xtuberI have question about the swap file14:53
xtuberI have 24G of RAM and 2G of the swap file14:54
xtubernow I have: free -h14:55
xtuber              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available14:55
xtuberMem:            23G        3,2G        698M        152M         19G         19G14:55
xtuberSwap:          2,0G        1,6M        2,0G14:55
xtuberanybody know why I need the swap file?15:13
juliankxtuber: Well, only you can know if you need a swap file15:23
xtuberjuliank, I mean why system uses swap if it have 24G ram?15:24
juliankhttp://blog.surgut.co.uk/2016/12/swapfiles-by-default-in-ubuntu.html15:24
juliankxtuber: Why not? You have 24GB of RAM, I'm sure you also have enough storage to spend 2GB on a swap file15:24
juliankGotta pick some defaults, and 2GB swap file seems reasonable15:26
xtuberyes I have 1Tb hard disk, but I thought swap need then ram is not enough15:27
juliankWell, if you use 24 GB of RAM, you need it. If you don't, you might have bought too much RAM :)15:28
juliankThere's more logic in https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2016-November/039538.html15:28
juliankImagine a workstation running 3 VMs with 6GB of RAM each - you definitely want swap at that point.15:29
juliankAnd a swap file is a good default, better than a swap partitition. If you don't need it, you can easily remove it15:29
* juliank runs without swap. Always found swap to be counter-productive because it was mostly swapping when memory leaking, and then ended up OOM killing anyway, just with a delay of 10 minutes or so15:32
juliankOn the other hand, without snap it sometimes seems to lock up completely when running out of memory, so not sure which is better.15:32
juliankSummary: Won't probably make much difference if you use it or not15:33
xtubernow I uses only 3.5G/23.4G Ram. why my system need the swap file too?15:34
juliankxtuber: Why do you have 24 GB of RAM?15:35
juliankOnce you can answer that question, you can consider if you need a swap file or not15:35
juliankWell, need is a strong word, more like want15:35
juliankxtuber: Or do you mean: Why did it swap something?15:36
juliankAs I just saw that it swapped 1.6 MB of memory15:36
juliankBut as you might have noticed, your RAM is mostly used now for caching; so only 700 MB are free, so the kernel swaps out some long unused memory to make more space for caching15:37
xtuberI thought I need not a swap file then I set up 24G of ram. But then I installed my xubuntu the system itself set up the swap file15:37
juliankIt *always* sets up a swap file15:37
juliankEven if you had 1 TB of RAM, it would still setup a 2GB swap file.15:38
juliankBecause it might make sense for your work load, and it's easy to remove.15:38
juliankI tried explaining that three times now, and the blog post and email also explain the reasoning behind this fairly well.15:39
xtuberjuliank, thanks you for your patience15:41
juliankxtuber: I'm still curious why you have 24 GB of RAM, do you plan to run tons of VMs on it or something?15:42
juliank:)15:42
juliankI just upgraded my laptop from 8GB to 16GB because I had trouble when running Android Studio with emulator and chrome with some tabs at the same time.15:43
juliankBut even 12 GB would have been enough, so I wonder what people do with so much (relatively speaking) memory :)15:44
xtuberI set up it for don't look at htop every time then I had open many tabs in my firefox for example15:44
juliankAh, you keep thousands of tabs open?15:44
juliankLike my friend who has 500 tabs or so open, and firefox eats 1.2 GB of RAM and 25% CPU constantly15:45
xtuberno. I has open about 25 tabs. and it uses about 5G of ram15:46
xtuberI had 8G of ram and my lubuntu 17.04 had slowed down. and I had bought 16G15:48
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pynthonHello21:07
pynthonWhen I use sublime text on xubuntu and type " I get ¨21:08
pynthonDoes somebody knows how to fix it? I already Googled my @ss off but no luck21:09
zincingA question about OpenVPN. Current release is 2.4.3 and old stable is 2.3.17. In Xubuntu I find 2.3.10. Can I add a repository to either move to 2.3.17 or 2.4.3?22:21
zincingThanks in advance!22:21
Unit193zincing: Not an answer to your question, but you may want to keep an eye on https://bugs.debian.org/86555522:50
ubottuDebian bug 865555 in wnpp "RFA: openvpn -- virtual private network daemon" [Normal,Open]22:50
zincingUnit193: Thanks a zillion. I duckduckgo'ed and finally found https://community.openvpn.net/openvpn/wiki/OpenvpnSoftwareRepos22:51
zincingI'm now running OpenVPN 2.4.3 :)22:52
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