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Epx998can the d-i partman handle setting block sizes for the lvm?00:25
sarnoldhehehe_off: just that php makes programming safe tools almost impossible00:26
lordievaderGood morning06:36
cpaelzerhi lordievader06:36
lordievaderHey cpaelzer, how are you?06:38
cpaelzerlordievader: I'm good and feel close to EOW07:12
cpaelzerlordievader: everything ine for you as well today?07:12
cpaelzer+f07:12
lordievaderDoing good here, just found out q35 is a lot faster in qemu :D07:12
cpaelzermore modern = better most of the time07:13
lordievaderTrue, but newer can also mean less stable.07:13
cpaelzerlordievader: what was your workload?07:13
lordievaderOh very low, just some benchmarking. Was checking nfs performance. It was doing 14MB/s while direct to disk was around 130MB/s.07:14
lordievaderIn iperf there was a difference of 10 times the bandwith between two similar vms, one had the old stuff the other one q35 turned out.07:14
cpaelzerI've seen the same when people change from the old default e1000 net to virtio07:19
cpaelzerDid not expect that much from q35, but maybe it implied some device changes that triggered your improvement07:20
lordievaderI think it is the change pci to pci-e. There is a huge difference between e1000 and virtio.07:21
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gheorghe_hehehe_off you said 755. if the user is www-data, apache can modify the file08:00
adacon a auto security update of my openvpn package, it seems that the openvpn is not coming up corectly aynmore08:49
adaconly a manual restart solves it /etc/init.d/openvpn restart08:50
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adacThis happend on all my machines. is there a bug in upgrading?08:57
cbauerI've skipped the process of setting up an account when installing ubuntu-server, I suppose there's no default password for root, right?08:57
rbasakadac: perhaps. Can you try downgrading to see if it starts working again? If so, please report a security regression with details.08:58
rbasakcbauer: correct08:58
adacrbasak, how can I downgrade it to previous version?08:59
cbauerwhen booting the ubuntu-server livecd, switching tty and trying to chroot to set a password for root of the installed ubuntu-server, but not having much luck even mounting the disk08:59
cbauerthe shell there seems _very_ limited08:59
cbaueris it normal that I can't name my account "admin"?09:01
cbauerseems reserved09:01
rbasakadac: click through the versions on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openvpn to find the appropriate debs.09:01
adacrbasak, ok thanks I'll try09:03
adacrbasak, yes that worked. tun interface is there and all is up and running09:05
adacshoudl I try upgrading again?09:05
adacupgrading also worked09:06
adachmm09:06
adacmaybe there is a prblem then wit auto security upgdates?09:06
adac*updates09:06
cbauermy livecd doesn't appear to be booting in uefi mode, is this normal?09:42
cbauerUEFI is of-course enabled on the machine09:43
cbauerhttp://imgur.com/l7rmg7L09:43
cbauerwriting error but still, there's no efivars mounted09:44
cbauermanually mounting it worked though, so not sure if it actually installed in uefi mode09:45
rbasakadac: hard to say. Thank you for checking. I guess we'll have to see if others report the same problem.10:01
adacrbasak, ok. You're welcome10:12
fricklercbauer: check your bios settings, you may need to enable "UEFI CDROM" instead of "CDROM" in your boot device list12:14
cbauer'enable'? you mean select?12:15
fricklercbauer: depends on your bios, but yes. took me some time to find that out when trying to install UEFI via network boot12:16
cbauerinstalled it now, as  /sys/firmware/efi/ exist I presume UEFI setup was successfull12:17
cbauerissue isn't the UEFI at least12:18
cbauerthe livecd/ubuntu is just weird to me, that's all, like missing UEFI tools I'm used to on other distros12:18
cbauerfor some reason lspci doesn't return12:20
cbauer^C is ignored as well12:21
fricklerrbasak: adac: we are seeing the same issue now, unattended upgrades updating openvpn and vpn broken after that12:57
adacfrickler, ok thanks for the info!12:57
adacrbasak, ^^12:58
rbasakfrickler, adac: thanks. To confirm, are you both seeing this server side or desktop side?13:00
rbasakAnd could it be that your openvpn clients aren't reconnecting automatically somehow?13:01
rbasakOr is it something more than that?13:01
adacrbasak, they actually do but only after ah manual /etc/init.d/openvpn restart13:02
adac*a manual13:02
fricklerrbasak: I tried manually reconnecting, got no response from the server. restarting fixes it for me like for adac. nothing obvious in the logs though13:06
adacfrickler, ok so we have totally the same issues. And int happened on every single serer of mine13:09
adacnot only one13:09
frickleradac: right, four servers here, broken after automatic upgrade. cannot reproduce with manual downgrade/upgrade13:12
adacfrickler, exactly not reproducable whith manual downgrade/upgrade here as well13:13
adacrbasak, ^^13:13
rbasakmdeslaur: ^13:14
rbasakI'd like to help but the non-reproducibility of this makes it really difficult :-/13:14
adacfrickler, ubuntu 16.04 right?13:14
adacrbasak, yes I understand of course13:14
rbasakadac, frickler: could you try downgrading and then upgrading using the unattended-upgrades command? I'm not sure if that suppresses things if it's run recently though.13:17
rbasakAnd it'd be useful if you could file a bug against openvpn to start tracking this please. Tag it "regression-update".13:18
rbasakI don't see how the unattended-upgrades command would change things, but at least that's closer.13:19
rbasakhttp://launchpadlibrarian.net/325110671/openvpn_2.3.10-1ubuntu2_2.3.10-1ubuntu2.1.diff.gz is the diff that was applied as the security update. I don't see anything in there that could be causing this, so perhaps it's a latent bug in the packaging rather than something actually introduced by the security update (rather the security upgrade triggered the latent bug).13:20
fricklerrbasak: adac: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openvpn/+bug/1700079 , unattended-upgrades run manually also does not reproduce this13:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1700079 in openvpn (Ubuntu) "openvpn broken after unattended security upgrade" [Undecided,New]13:34
adacfrickler, ok thanks for the info13:36
adacfrickler, out of curiosity, what did all break for with that? For me of course the communication to the (web) services that are behind the the VPN and can only be access trough the VPN. Second my logging was interrupted, sending everything to to a log server13:39
adactrough VPN13:40
adacIm also thinking about turning of auto security updates. Maybe have a monitoring when there are security updates and then run them manually13:40
adactrough ansible or so13:41
ahasenackrbasak: hi, question about the git workflow14:01
rbasakSure14:01
ahasenackrbasak: following Deconstruct current Ubuntu delta into logical commits.14:01
ahasenackrbasak: let's see if I can point you precise where I am at14:01
ahasenackrbasak: I did the big step "2. Deconstruct current Ubuntu delta into logical commits."14:02
ahasenackmy question is about, at the very end,14:02
ahasenack"Interactively rebase the deconstructed Ubuntu delta and drop 'changelog' and 'update-metadata' changes, by simply dropping those lines from the rebase todo file."14:02
ahasenackwhat I have now, is each change in a single commit, as we wanted14:02
ahasenackand an out-of-date debian/changelog, because of those drops14:02
ahasenackand also out-of-date d/control (no maintainer change, it's still debian)14:03
rbasakThat's expected for logical14:03
ahasenackthe next big step is14:03
rbasakWe're reducing it to git commits only - no changelog changes, only commit messages. And no update-maintainer.14:03
ahasenack3. Rebase delta onto latest Debian release.14:03
ahasenackbut let's say there was no new debian release14:03
ahasenackthis was just to bring the repo up-to-date with what was uploaded manually, without the git workflow14:04
ahasenackthen we would have to reconstruct the changelog here, right?14:04
ahasenackand d/control14:04
rbasakYes, though I'm a little confused as to why you need that.14:04
ahasenackI don't think I do, I was just verifying each step14:05
rbasakBut yes, it should be fine to add a commit with the full changelog change, and another commit for the full update-maintainer change.14:05
ahasenackand understanding where I was14:05
rbasakThen you should have an identical tree to the non-git upload.14:05
ahasenackright14:05
ahasenackrbasak: ok, the other question I have,14:05
rbasakBut I'm not sure what you'd do with that tree/commit when you have it. We don't really have a process/use case for that.14:05
ahasenackrbasak: when picking each change from debian/changelog, and figuring out the commit that does that,14:06
ahasenackrbasak: this delta is old14:06
ahasenackrbasak: the d/changelog usually lists something like "Remaining changes" and then a list14:06
rbasakYou could certainly tag logical (without doing the changelog and update-maintainer commits) and leave that for future merges.14:06
ahasenackrbasak: my question is, this section doesn't have the original bug numbers anymore for each one of those old delta changes14:07
ahasenackdo we care?14:07
ahasenackrbasak: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24932986/ is what I deconstructed into individual commits14:07
ahasenackmy git log --oneline: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24932993/14:08
rbasakI usually drop the bug numbers, so that matches what I would do. I do this because leaving a full LP references leaves a Launchpad-Bugs-Closed against that version, which would technically be wrong. And the bug numbers can be found in previous changelog entries if needed anyway.14:16
rbasakahasenack: on the next merge, feel free to refactor the changelog entry. But you can't change it until then of course.14:17
rbasaks/the changelog entry/the remaining changes section/14:17
ahasenackok14:18
ahasenackwhat does this [linux-any] mean in d/control?15:03
ahasenack               libaio-dev [linux-any],15:03
ahasenackin a Build-Depends line15:04
powersjahasenack: it is an architecture wildcard if I recall.15:08
powersjkernel-cpu is the format, so you could say any-i386 for only i386, or in your case only linux kernels and any cpu15:09
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naccahasenack: https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html#s-depsyntax15:17
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Epx998217:00
ahasenacknacc: when you have a moment, we can talk about the samba merge17:17
darinavbtHi all. Could I get some assistance setting up a test OpenStack deployment using Ubuntu Autopilot? I seem to be running into an issue.17:22
naccahasenack: give me a few minutes to context switch out of my current stuff17:22
ahasenacknacc: yep17:22
naccahasenack: want to use a HO?17:41
ahasenacknacc: yes please17:43
ahasenacknacc: let's use the standup one17:43
naccahasenack: ok17:43
teward*beeps*18:08
tewardfinally got IPv6 1:1 NAT working... which is... odd...18:09
ahasenackipv6 nat?18:16
tewardahasenack: LXD containers and on-link IPv6 only18:17
tewardahasenack: the only 'nat' that exists was the snat/dnat >.>18:17
ahasenacknacc: is there a way to insert those empty commits now after all this? Pick one commit in the middle of the rebase somewhere to edit, commit, and rebase --continue?18:32
ahasenackI don't mind starting over, btw18:33
naccahasenack: right, so the easiest way is to edit just before you want to insert18:34
ahasenackok18:34
naccahasenack: in the rebase -i editor18:34
naccahasenack: that will drop you to the shell just after commiting the entry you edited18:34
naccahasenack: so then you can freely do a `git commit --allow-empty -m 'message...'18:35
ahasenackgreat18:35
ahasenackthx18:35
naccahasenack: what's fun is you can actually do that directly in the rebase -i editor18:35
naccwith18:35
naccx git commit --allow-empty -m 'message..'18:35
ahasenackbut I have no commit hash there18:35
ahasenackah, x18:35
naccahasenack: advanced usage :)18:35
ahasenackI'll get there someday :)18:35
ahasenackhm, that krb patch isn't upstream yet18:36
ahasenackI definitely miss a dep3 header18:37
* ahasenack puts on the Indiana Jones hat18:37
ahasenackheh, found it18:38
ahasenackhttps://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1049018:38
ubottubugzilla.samba.org bug 10490 in Winbind "pam_winbind fails with kerberos method = secrets and keytab" [Normal,New]18:38
ahasenackfrom 201418:38
naccahasenack: :)18:38
naccahasenack: i especially like that last comment from last april18:39
ahasenackstill scrolling down18:39
ahasenackheh18:40
ahasenackdebian bug is not mentioned in d/changelog or git log18:42
* ahasenack keeps digging18:42
ahasenackfound18:42
ahasenackhttps://launchpad.net/bugs/131091918:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1310919 in samba "pam_winbind krb5_ccache_type=FILE stopped working after 14.04 upgrade" [Medium,Confirmed]18:42
Epx998is 17.04 in beta or?18:44
naccEpx998: 17.04 ... came out in april 201718:44
naccEpx998: as per the name18:44
Epx998ah word18:44
Epx998is not listed as LTS which is why i asked18:44
naccEpx998: it's not an LTS.18:44
naccEpx998: even year'd april releases are currently LTS18:45
sarnoldsomeone usually updates this page when releases are released or retired https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases18:46
Epx998thanks - saved the link18:46
Epx998hmm maybe i should do 16.04.218:47
sarnolddo you need the newer kernel?18:48
sarnoldoh wait you've got crazy hardware issues. you might benefit frmo the newer kernel. :)18:48
Epx998no, I am just tinkering with my linux desktop, drive is failing - so giving something new a go18:49
fullstopHi all.  I have a 14.04 server with md raid.  one drive failed miserably and won't spin up.  I have replaced the drive and added the new partitions to the arrays, but it adds them as spares and won't promote them to an active drive.19:28
fullstopis there a way to force the spare to be used?19:29
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fullstopI see a lot of threads online regarding this, but no solutions.19:30
fallentreefullstop: how did you remove old and add new drive to the array? what mdadm commands did you use?19:33
fullstopI couldn't remove the old one since it was no longer in the device table -- it won't spin up.19:34
fullstopso I added a new one with mdadm --manage /dev/md0 --add /dev/sdb319:35
fullstopand it resynced19:35
fullstopbut now it shows a degraded array with one drive and one spare.19:35
fallentreepastebin it?19:35
fullstophttps://pastebin.com/raw/zRFtJAnZ19:37
fullstopI have all of the data backed up, so rebuilding everything isn't the end of the world19:37
fullstopbut it would have been nice to pop a new drive in and rebuild.19:37
fallentreefullstop: can you pastebin /proc/mdstat ?19:38
fullstophttps://pastebin.com/raw/czawGj7f19:41
fullstopI won't know if the larger volume will work or not for a few hours.19:42
fullstopI think that I'll wait for the resync to finish and start fresh with two new drives.19:45
ahasenacknacc: hi, one more question19:46
ahasenacknacc: let me divide up this work in two phases: a) rebase old/debian; b) rebase new/debian19:47
ahasenackin (a) I split all the changes into individual commits and so on19:47
fullstopI just found a keysense error in the log, fallentree, and I suspect that the "good" drive isn't so good.19:47
ahasenackin (b), I apply that to the new debian package, resolving conflicts, dropping patches that are upstream already, etc19:48
ahasenacknacc: good so far?19:48
ahasenacknacc: oh, hm. Now that I explained it like that, I don't think I have a question anymore :)19:48
fallentreefullstop: yeah. --add should've added and activated the drive. see what happens when the sync is done, my guess is it'll promote the drive to active and move to UU status19:48
ahasenacknacc: but I can humor you with what it was19:48
fallentreefullstop: well, it's been a few years since I used mdadm last. nowadays it's all ZFS for me19:49
fullstopyes, we've switched to zfs for new stuff as well.19:49
fullstopit took me a few minutes to remember how to do the mdadm stuff.19:50
fallentreefullstop: this cheatsheet always  helped me back then   http://www.ducea.com/2009/03/08/mdadm-cheat-sheet/19:51
fullstopI have a feeling that it works better if you still have the target disk in place and are able to remove it.19:52
fallentreeperhaps, yeah19:56
sarnoldfallentree: that's handy, thanks19:57
fallentreeI had to replace a drive maybe two or three times and each time they were still visible to the OS so I'd fail it and remove manually, before replacing19:57
fallentreesarnold: yw19:57
sarnoldfallentree: I haven't tried the root on zfs yet but mdadm is so much less fun I really don't know how to drive the root on mdadm that I've got :)19:58
fallentreesarnold: grub recognizes it automatically, and you could even reboot into rescue mode / installer USB, recreate partial array (1 disk mirror, with the other "missing" (valid value to mdadm)), rsync files, rinse and repeat on the old drive, sync them up, chroot, update-grub, win20:00
fallentreedid that a few times. in production. over ssh. :)20:01
fallentreeno need to separate out /boot, if it's simple RAID1 mirror, for any other level you need separate /boot20:01
darinavbtI'm spinning up an OpenStack cloud using Ubuntu Autopilot. I'm setting up MAAS. When I commission machines, should I check "Allow SSH access and prevent machine from powering off"?20:02
darinavbtI'd think I'd want to be able to SSH into it, but I don't know why that's linked with "prevent powering off".20:02
sarnoldfallentree: ohhhhh my. you mean I can probably live migrate to zfs on root? :)20:03
darinavbtOr, if that checkbox is unchecked, can I still log in as ubuntu using the SSH key I put into MAAS?20:04
sarnolddarinavbt: if you don't have sccess in here you can also try in #maas20:04
fallentreesarnold: no, you said mdadm, you and yeah you could live migrate to mdadm RAID 1. As for ZFS, thing is you can't create partial mirrors, so live migration is off20:04
darinavbtThanks!20:04
sarnoldfallentree: you can add a new drive to a mirror vdev any time you want :)20:05
fallentreesarnold: yeah but it doesn't auto-rebalance like btrfs20:05
fallentreeyou'd still have to (re)copy data20:05
fallentreeunless that changed recently20:06
sarnoldfallentree: that's adding a new vdev entirely; you can add more disks to a mirror vdev, or turn a single disk vdev into a mirror vdev, any time you want20:06
fallentreesarnold: I see. in which case it would be possible to live migrate to ZFS root yeah20:07
fallentree"live"... you would need a short period of downtime when you assemble the chroot with root mounted from the zpool so grub and initramfs pick it up20:07
sarnoldfallentree: the mdadm steps seem more complicated than I expected; I'm surprised about the rsync.. are those instructions for going frmo nothing to mdadm root?20:07
fallentreesarnold: yeah, I had single drive, plain ext4 partitions, added another, partitioned, created partial mdadm devices (with "missing" in place of original disk), copied data and then from rescue mode assembled the full array and set up grub/initramfs20:09
naccahasenack: sorry, was afk -- i'm here now20:10
fallentreeof course ran one final rsync from rescue mode before cleaning up old single drive and adding to the mirror20:10
ahasenacknacc: np20:11
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ahasenacknacc: I found out that one of the patches that still applies is wrong now with this new upstream version, and for a moment wondered in which "phase" it should be dropped: (a) or (b). It's (b), of course, since that's when our changes are being applied on top of the new debian version20:12
sarnoldfallentree: that's so cool. :D20:13
fallentreeyeah it was pat-on-the-back-worthy once done :) of course, that was after numerous test attemps with VMs and lotsa failures :)20:14
sarnoldhaha20:15
sarnoldyeah I can imagine20:16
SupaYoshi_anyone experience with pxe / tftp testing?20:35
SupaYoshi_I am setting up a clonedeploy server and I am having issues with TFTP20:35
SupaYoshi_I would like to test if my TFTP server on Ubuntu is properply working, but I don't know how too. My router seems to properply handle PXE, based on Wireshark packets, and the server IP20:36
SupaYoshi_but not sure on the tftp server on the pxe/tftp server.20:36
ahasenacknacc: I'm getting a traceback now when I run merge finish: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24935370/20:39
ahasenackcould it be related to the fact I'm no more in detached head state, since I created that branch to push do LP?20:39
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sarnoldSupaYoshi_: can you tftp to the server? :)20:47
naccahasenack: hrm, it *shouldn't* matter20:54
naccahasenack: you ran `git ubuntu merge start` with the same args?20:54
ahasenackclose, I ran with -f20:55
ahasenackgit ubuntu merge start ubuntu/devel -f20:55
naccahasenack: ok, that should be ok still for finish (the -f is mosty for the tag overwriting020:55
ahasenackyeah20:55
naccahasenack: bah, it's my recent change -- one sec20:56
ahasenack:)20:56
naccahasenack: can you push your branch somewhere? i'll see if i can reproduce it locally21:01
naccahasenack: also i think this will fix it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24935500/21:01
ahasenacknacc: pushed, it's that samba-merge-4.6.5 one from here: https://code.launchpad.net/~ahasenack/ubuntu/+source/samba/+git/samba/+ref/samba-merge-4.6.521:02
ahasenacknacc: too bad it's a snap and I can't patch it on-the-fly :)21:03
ahasenackr/o filesystem21:03
naccahasenack: ok, reproduced21:04
naccahasenack: and fixing21:07
naccahasenack: pushing, it should refresh in a few minutes21:13
ahasenackok21:13
ahasenackthx21:13
naccahasenack: should be available now21:20
ahasenackrefreshing21:20
ahasenackgot r6521:20
naccahasenack: yeah that should have the fix21:20
ahasenack$ git ubuntu merge finish ubuntu/devel21:21
ahasenack06/23/2017 18:20:44 - INFO:Using git repository at /home/andreas/git/merges/samba21:21
ahasenackno crash21:21
ahasenackand I have a new changelog21:21
ahasenackI think21:21
naccahasenack: cool :)21:21
ahasenacksome chunks are repeated from previous changelog entries21:22
naccahasenack: can you show me in a paste?21:22
ahasenackit added the changelog from 4.5.8+dfsg-2ubuntu221:22
ahasenackyep21:22
ahasenackchrome doesn't like big pastes to pastebin :/21:22
naccahasenack: to be clear, the tooling doesn't actually look in d/changelog. What it did was use the git commits you ahve in your branch21:23
naccwhich include the entries (correctly) from 4.5.8+dfsg-2ubuntu2, afaict21:23
ahasenacknacc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24935632/21:23
naccahasenack: right, so lines 28-30, e.g., come from 03d512aff0e477b9d2094ac128f1f4b34963123121:24
ahasenackyes21:24
naccahasenack: it's looking at every git commit since 'debian/sid' and extracting each message into debian/changelog (basically running `git reconstruct-changelog debian/sid`)21:24
naccahasenack: which is correct? I mean it's doing what you told it to do21:25
naccahasenack: you need to push those commit messages in (indentation wise)21:25
naccahasenack: as they are now carried forward delta21:25
ahasenackI thought I had21:25
ahasenackno, wait21:25
naccahasenack: at least in my view of your repo, you haven't yet21:25
ahasenackthe dep8 one, for example21:25
ahasenackthat I didn't indent21:25
ahasenackbecause it wasn't old delta21:26
ahasenackbut I think I see your point21:26
naccit *is* old delta now21:26
ahasenackit's about being a delta21:26
ahasenackyeah21:26
naccyep21:26
ahasenackI purposedly skipped those21:26
ahasenackok21:26
ahasenackso it's correct to list all that again, because it's delta from now on21:26
nacccorrect21:26
ahasenackok21:26
naccand you want to nest it under "remaining chagnes"21:26
naccbecause it is remaining changes that were previously reviewed/uploaded21:26
ahasenackright21:27
naccahasenack: you can also see the difference between the old changelog and this one, we drop LP: to LP automatically21:27
ahasenackhow do I do this again? I tagged before running merge finish21:27
naccahasenack: git checkout <tag>21:27
naccahasenack: git rebase -i new/debian21:27
naccahasenack: 'r' the ones you want to chagne the commit message for21:27
ahasenackthat's ok21:27
naccahasenack: and then run 'finish' command again21:28
naccahasenack: does that make sense?21:31
ahasenacknacc: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24935676/21:31
ahasenacknacc: what about   * d/p/krb_zero_cursor.patch: add DEP3 header21:32
naccahasenack: i think lines 35-39 are part of the old delta too?21:32
ahasenackit's a delta, but a change I made while doing the merge21:32
ahasenackand when we remove a patch, is that delta?21:32
naccahasenack: i would keep that dep3 change at the top-level, because it's 'new' delta relative to what was uploaded prior21:33
ahasenackremoving the patch removed the delta21:33
naccahasenack: let me look in the branch21:33
ahasenackI have to push again, after the commit messages changes21:33
ahasenackbut the content is untouched21:33
naccahasenack: that's fine21:34
naccahasenack: ok, so i think this is a case of delta being added and dropped prior21:34
naccahasenack: so it shouldn't even be in the new changelog21:34
ahasenackwhich one?21:35
naccahasenack: e.g., 88c04472396882cc60ea81a57ca6902e20cb77cb and e341bb56cbd3d28907e40b4eeb0ec3e550bfe888 negate each other21:35
ahasenackthat guy was added and dropped several times21:35
naccahasenack: or i guess not dropped, but clarified21:35
naccahasenack: as you didn't undo the debian/rules change (afaict)?21:35
ahasenackoh, I might have forgotten that bit21:36
ahasenackyep, need to remove it21:36
naccahasenack: do you want to do another HO? might be easier to clarify this case21:36
ahasenackand have to check artful21:36
SupaYoshi_hi my tftp gives a timeout21:36
ahasenacklet's forget fix-1584485.patch for a moment21:37
ahasenackI did indeed forget about the debian/rules associated change for that one21:37
ahasenacknacc: what about "refresh patches", "add DEP3" and "Remove d/p/winbind_trusted_domains.patch"21:38
ahasenacklast one is me removing a delta21:38
naccahasenack: i think refresh patches can be nested, as you're not contentfully changing the delta21:38
naccahasenack: even the d/p/krb_zero_cursor.patch change, could be nested under the commit corresponding to line 721:38
naccahasenack: as just a [..] comment21:39
SupaYoshi_http://prntscr.com/fng069 my tftp server times out21:39
naccahasenack: if you're explicitly dropping delta, it should be in a * Drop: section with a reasoning21:39
ahasenackok, will do21:40
naccahasenack: and in git, it should end up being an empty commit (as it can't have any content relative to Debian, as the delta didn't exist in Debian)21:41
ahasenackhm21:41
ahasenackI think that goes back to my reasoning before about (a) and (b) phases21:42
ahasenackthe patch can only be dropped when applied to the new samba version21:42
ahasenackso (b)21:42
ahasenackI don't understand how that would be an empty commit21:42
naccahasenack: sure, a commit can *become* empty21:42
naccahasenack: ok, so you have some commit X in old/ubuntu21:42
naccahasenack: it added some functionality relative to old/debian21:43
naccahasenack: that change is no longer needed in new/debian21:43
hehehe_offwhich channel on freenode is for discussing girls?21:43
ahasenacknacc: hold a bit21:43
ahasenacknacc: "so you have some commit X in old/ubuntu"21:43
ahasenacknot really: I have a huge change, not individual commits yet21:43
hehehe_offits kinda amusing with so many guys here girls are not a topic21:43
naccahasenack: well, that should be logical<version>21:43
nacchehehe_off: please stop.21:44
hehehe_offnacc why21:44
nacchehehe_off: you can read the topic, you know you're being offtopic.21:44
hehehe_offI like girls21:44
hehehe_offI asked where is such channel21:44
nacchehehe_off: and that is a ubuntu server discussion, how?21:44
nacc!alis | hehehe_off21:44
ubottuhehehe_off: Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http"21:44
hehehe_offI did not find any using alis21:44
hehehe_off:)21:44
nacchehehe_off: i don't care.21:45
hehehe_offmaybe there are none21:45
hehehe_offnacc then why talk to me?21:45
hehehe_offso u do care :D21:45
hehehe_offanyhow I am off :)21:45
nacchehehe_off: because you're leading to noise when i'm trying to actually get something done.21:45
hehehe_offyou wont use /ignore why?21:45
hehehe_off:)))21:46
hehehe_offif 1 question about girls provokes u so much21:46
nacchehehe_off: it's not cute or funny. you are being intentionally disrespectful of a channel's rules.21:46
hehehe_off:)21:46
fallentreenacc: ur just feeding trolls. notify the ops and don't waste your time ;)21:46
naccfallentree: true21:46
hehehe_offand coding requires libido :)21:47
hehehe_offincluding ubuntu server21:47
gheorghe_i open #ubuntu-server after hours of doing other stuff and i see hehehe_off saying that coding requires libido. well... sorry for evasdropping on this discussion :D21:51
hehehe_off:)21:52
hehehe_offhi gheorghe_21:52
Epx998is there any weird different for dns from 14 to 16?22:02
ahasenackthx nacc22:03
ahasenackhave a great weekend, cya22:03
naccahasenack: np, you too!22:03
nergarhello, I'm checking my seedbox and it is running 2.6 in xenial, why is that? how can I make it boot with kernel 4.8? i already isntalled sudo apt install --install-recommends linux-generic-hwe-16.0422:11
naccnergar: what is a seedbox? like a VPS?22:12
qman__nergar: paste the full output of uname -a22:12
naccnergar: ask your hoster, if so, it's probably something you don't get to control22:13
nergari hacve root access22:13
naccnergar: you might not have 'real' root access22:13
nergarLinux ss105 2.6.32-042stab120.18 #1 SMP Fri Jan 13 10:32:04 MSK 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux22:13
naccnergar: yeah that's a VPS something or other -- i've seen it before22:14
gheorghe_mergar: cat /etc/issue22:14
naccnergar: might even just be a container, not a VM22:14
qman__yeah, you're probably on a container, not an actual VM22:14
nergaryeah, VPS22:14
nergarso no chance of changing the kernel? i didn't know this :/22:14
nergarwhy would they give me a xenial install with 2.6??22:15
naccnergar: because they want to control what is in the kernel22:15
qman__with containers, the guests use the host kernel22:15
qman__so they are stuck with whatever the host is running22:15
nergaroh!22:15
nergarwow, bummer22:15
gheorghe_nergar that is why i was curious what is written in /etc/issue ... i didn't even know xenial can run with 2.622:16
fallentreewhat can possibly be running 2.6 kernel still?22:16
naccfallentree: plenty of VPS providers, unfortunately22:16
qman__2.6.32 is really old at this point, it's probably an old centos22:16
naccgheorghe_: /etc/issue is a fileystem file, not reflective of anything beyond what (in this case) was untarred tomake the root fs22:16
nergarUbuntu 16.04.2 LTS \n \l22:16
fallentree2.6 doesn't even support containers properly if at all22:16
naccfallentree: a heavily patched one would22:16
naccfallentree: might even be openvz or some such22:17
gheorghe_nergar, are you using alibaba cloud?22:17
qman__maybe not lxc, but containers have been around a lot longer than that22:17
Epx998dang resolv.conf just wont work wth22:17
nergarObtrix, the provider is Obtrix22:17
fallentreenacc: that's bordering criminal negligence :)22:17
naccfallentree: it's why they (VPS) are so cheap, on some level :)22:17
qman__google suggests it's a RHEL 6 OpenVZ kernel22:18
fallentreeuname would solve the mistery22:18
naccqman__: sounds about right22:18
fallentreeah, it was given above22:18
naccfallentree: provided above already22:18
nacc:)22:18
fallentreestab, yeah openvz22:18
sarnoldfallentree: 2.6.32-042stab120.1822:18
nergarwell, anyhow. i just wanted to try out something, I am dumping them for ByteSized hosting and it runs 4.822:19
naccthe frustrating part, to me, is that tooling reports this as "Ubuntu"22:19
naccwhen it's quite clearly not Ubuntu ata ll22:19
nacc*at all22:19
fallentreecanonical sued OVH for that particular reason (trademark abuse)22:19
sarnoldour legal team sometimes contacts such hosters :)22:20
naccfallentree: yeah22:20
naccsarnold: yeah, i'm aware :) -- still frustrating, though22:20
nergarnot ubuntu?22:20
nergarwhat do you mean?22:20
naccnergar: ubuntu has a kernel they ship22:20
naccnergar: also, containers are ... just processes, they blur the line of what it means to run a distribution22:20
qman__it's not really ubuntu, at least not the whole thing - it's a bunch of ubuntu stuff stacked on a RHEL kernel and any hacks they had to do to make that work22:21
nergarTIL22:21
hehehe_offcanonical sued OVH for that particular reason (trademark abuse) link?22:21
fallentreegoogle it22:21
hehehe_offnah ty22:21
hehehe_off:D22:21
hehehe_offmaybe later22:21
hehehe_offI was checking something google done22:22
hehehe_offon blockchain22:22
hehehe_offapecconnect.org22:22
hehehe_offseems like bs22:23
hehehe_offmaybe usefull for some22:23
nergarwhat about this one?: Linux bermudi 4.4.0-81-generic #104-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jun 14 08:17:06 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux22:23
fallentreeyour enter key is stuck.22:23
fallentreenergar: that sounds like proper xenial kernel22:23
naccnergar: yeah that looks better22:23
sarnoldtime for a reboot but no terrible :)22:23
naccsarnold: does livepatch change the uname? just thinking out loud22:24
sarnoldnacc: probably not22:24
sarnolda lot of bugs never get livepatched though22:24
naccsarnold: yeah i didn't think so ... interesting, another thing to remember to ask about22:24
naccsarnold: absolutely, was just curious if you knew22:25
Epx998figures, network team gave me the wring dns server ip22:44

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