[08:53] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:44] <zmoylan-pi> a slightly cooler morning...
[09:51] <brobostigon> thankfully, :)
[09:53] <brobostigon> i repurposed my old kindle case into a flay swat.
[09:54] <zmoylan-pi> been a bit hard on yourself or a typo? :-)
[09:55] <brobostigon> lolz, yes. :)
[09:55] <brobostigon> typo, fly swat.
[20:20]  * penguin42 found a HP elitebook in a Cash Generator for #120 - nice dual core i7 laptop (low res LCD but other than that)
[20:22] <daftykins> first gen i7?
[20:24] <penguin42> daftykins: No!
[20:24] <penguin42> daftykins: i7-3520M
[20:24] <penguin42> daftykins: Radeon HD6xxx as well in it
[20:28] <daftykins> ah ha ivybridge
[20:28] <daftykins> AMD, boo :D
[20:28] <penguin42> yep
[20:28] <daftykins> pretty good score though, toss in an SSD perhaps and you're laughing
[20:28] <penguin42> daftykins: Open drivers, can't argue
[20:29] <daftykins> well that's ok if your needs are basically drawing a desktop and not much else
[20:29] <daftykins> about all 'radeon' is good for ;D
[20:29] <penguin42> (which actually all I do) but why? The HD6xxx is pretty decent isn't it ?
[20:31] <daftykins> nah pretty much everything HD 7xxx and below is EOL now
[20:33] <penguin42> true, but it's a lot better than the HD4xxx in my current machine!
[20:34] <daftykins> amusingly that could be both an intel or AMD model
[20:35]  * hamitron is stuck on Ubuntu 14.04 because of his old AMD GPUs
[20:35] <penguin42> hamitron: Which one?
[20:36] <hamitron> 5870
[20:36] <hamitron> x2
[20:36] <penguin42> that should be fine on newer
[20:36] <penguin42> I'm running a 4250 on Fedora 26
[20:36] <penguin42> (open driver)
[20:36] <hamitron> it can run steam and games?
[20:36] <penguin42> ah, not tried, I don't game
[20:37] <hamitron> I've also read the open driver does not support crossfire
[20:37] <hamitron> although tbh, 1 card is enough
[20:47] <daftykins> dump 'em and get something that outperforms by 10x for 10th the power :)
[20:50] <hamitron> I have better in other machines
[20:51]  * hamitron is a hoarder and loves to keep old hardware going
[20:51] <daftykins> heh :)
[20:51] <daftykins> i get a bit attached to mine too
[20:52] <hamitron> 1 problem I find... being a gamer, I tend to have windows on my best machine
[20:52] <hamitron> then use linux on my "main" old rig
[20:53] <daftykins> wisest idea really
[20:53] <daftykins> what i don't get is when someone calls themselves a gamer but then cuts themselves out of the market by staying Linux only :>
[20:54] <hamitron> aye
[20:55] <hamitron> gotta use what is best for the task... for me that is linux for everything apart from gaming
[20:55] <daftykins> :>
[20:56] <hamitron> what I find frustrating, is when you have stats for game sales on linux looking poor, so that is used to justify not bothering publishing the newer games on linux
[20:57] <hamitron> when my purchase was originally on windows, but I benefit from the linux binaries
[20:59] <daftykins> bit of an egg and chicken sorta problem there ja
[21:00] <penguin42> I think you mean a chicken and egg ....
[21:01] <daftykins> egg and penguin! :>
[21:01] <penguin42> true
[21:04] <hamitron> :)
[21:07] <hamitron> do the AMDGPU drivers on older card like mine support opencl well?
[21:08] <hamitron> I suppose I could live without games and harness the power of the gpu that way
[21:08] <daftykins> you won't get amdgpu supporting anything EOL, so some 7xxx gen cards and below
[21:09] <hamitron> even without amdgpu pro?
[21:09] <daftykins> don't think much of anything is supported, but i haven't read any news for some time
[21:10] <daftykins> http://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMDGPU-VRAM-D-Games
[21:10] <daftykins> o0
[21:11] <daftykins> not even HDMI audio in yet XD what a laugh
[21:13] <zmoylan-pi> huzzah \o/ :-P
[23:04] <m0nkey_> Louis is trolling.