[12:37] <osman> hi
[12:46] <stain> hi
[12:51] <diogenes_> hi
[18:22] <godsring> Hello there so xubuntu 17.04 just came out and the bug with both my gtx 970 not allowing display without nomodeset on install as well as the issue with my phone being unable to tether is still happening
[18:23] <godsring> Both have been an issue since 16.10 which has me worried when we move over to the new lts this still will be an issue
[18:23] <mrkramps> the free nouveau driver for nvidia gpus still does not support your card
[18:23] <mrkramps> and i guess it won't be supported until 2020
[18:24] <godsring> Hmm what about the issue with my phone being unable to tether
[18:24] <godsring> 16.04 and earlier work fine with both my gpu and phone
[18:25] <mrkramps> your gpu is nicely supported by the propritary nvidia driver, but this is not available for the installer
[18:25] <godsring> I get an error when my phone is plugged in on installer boot as well
[18:25] <godsring> It gives me a usb read error
[18:26] <godsring> My phone begins power cycling as well
[18:26] <godsring> As long as its plugged in
[18:26] <godsring> Having tethering with my phone is of the most importance
[18:26] <godsring> As I can work around the gpu issue
[18:27] <mrkramps> guess what, i do not know you "phone"
[18:27] <godsring> Well I have two one is a Samsung galaxy s8 and one is a Samsung rugby 4
[18:28] <godsring> Both of these devices are not detected by xubuntu 16.10+
[18:28] <godsring> Both cause some sort of usb read write error on boot
[18:28] <godsring> This issue is not present in 16.04
[18:31] <godsring> My only access to the internet with with my phone through tethering so getting this fixed is extremely important to me being able to continue using xubuntu or any other Ubuntu flavours
[18:31] <godsring> is with*
[18:31] <mrkramps> any reason not to use 16.04=
[18:31] <mrkramps> ?
[18:31] <godsring> Well I had been using 16.04 but it wont be long before things move on to the new LTS
[18:32] <mrkramps> 2019
[18:32] <mrkramps> xubuntu has 3 years of support
[18:33] <godsring> Does that include support for the latest kernel and app enhancements
[18:34] <godsring> I had compiled and tested the latest kernel on 16.04 so technically I could do things that way but it is best to have the upstream patchs
[18:34] <mrkramps> probably you want to use another distribution with rolling release?
[18:35] <godsring> I have considered Arch Linux it seems like a solid choice that is if it will work with my tethering
[18:35] <godsring> Its a shame though as I do like xubuntu
[18:36] <mrkramps> i guess you did not update the 17.04 live image?
[18:36] <godsring> Yes I did try it though it is somehow incompatible
[18:37] <godsring> It causes my phone to crash and produces USB read and write errors on boot
[18:37] <godsring> Once booted to the desktop it does not detect my phone
[18:37] <godsring> Sometimes even my mouse refuses to work
[18:38] <godsring> I am unsure if it is some sort of chipset malfunction I am running on a asus sabertooth gen3/r2.0 motherboard it uses a 990fx chipset
[18:38] <godsring> The usb 3.0 ports are asmedia
[18:41] <godsring> If I knew what changed between 16.04 and 16.10 perhaps we could diagnose this and get it fixed
[18:41] <mrkramps> network-manager regression
[18:42] <godsring> If the issue is the network-manager what if I just switch it out with another?
[18:42] <godsring> That should in theory fix the issue
[18:43] <mrkramps> afaik connman or wicd do not support usb tethering
[18:45] <mrkramps> you could set it up manually
[18:46] <godsring> True
[18:46] <godsring> I could try at least I would need to disable the network manager to see if that would stop the phone from power cycling
[18:47] <mrkramps> afaik it is completly normal for a mobile to recharge when connected to a usb port
[18:47] <mrkramps> and if there are settings to change then on the phone's operating system
[18:47] <godsring> Well its not charging it shutting the phone off turning it on and respeating that process
[18:48] <godsring> Like as if the usb port is surging the phone or sending a shutdown command
[18:48] <godsring> It will reboot the phone like that for hours
[18:51] <godsring> Thanks for the suggestion anyways I hope they can get this issue fixed by the next LTS release as otherwise I will be surely forced to move to another distro
[18:52] <godsring> I haven't tested but if the issue is here for xubuntu I imagine it is there for Debian + XFCE
[18:52] <mrkramps> most probably yes
[19:38] <osman> hello
[19:39] <diogenes_> hello
[20:41] <RayJones> Hey all, I'm having trouble installing a package. It says it's unable to locate when I install with apt-get but when I check online it says it should exist in multiverse. Any idea what's going on?
[20:42] <RayJones> The package is nvidia-opencl-dev
[20:43] <knome> do you have multiverse repositories enabled?
[20:44] <RayJones> When I go to "Software and Updates", it says it's enabled. Is there a way to check that from the command line?
[20:45] <RayJones> My sources.list has this line `deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial main restricted multiverse`
[20:48] <mrkramps> RayJones, universe is missing
[20:48] <RayJones> universe is on a different line: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial universe
[20:49] <RayJones> Hmm, it looks like I installed a 32 bit version of ubuntu so it's not showing up because of an architecture mismatch. I'll reinstall and try again.
[20:49] <RayJones> Thanks for the help!