[05:24] <d3x_> yo sup people
[11:51] <tibblej> charlotte?
[12:05] <cstaffords> Hello?
[12:06] <cstaffords> Who is online? I am really new to Ubuntu MATE, and I could use some help.
[12:10] <cstaffords> @cikal, are you still online? I could use your help.
[12:10] <cikal> hi community.. today i has try install mate on my old machine "hp compaq presario c500", i get trouble with wifi.
[12:11] <cikal> yes @cstaffords
[12:11] <cstaffords> I guess you're new too?
[12:11] <cikal> :)
[12:12] <cstaffords> I just started with ubuntu MATE for the first time a few days ago.
[12:12] <cstaffords> Dop you know how to run OpenJDK?
[12:12] <cikal> i choose migrate from windows, and try some linux distro. last day im start with lubuntu, and today try mate
[12:13] <cstaffords> Mate or Ubuntu MATE?
[12:13] <cikal> Ubuntu Mate
[12:15] <cstaffords> So, are you trying to put it on to put ubuntu mate on your compaq, or replace windows or ordinary ubuntu with ubuntu mate?
[12:16] <cikal> great question, i has wipe windows and replace it with linux. today im try to using ubuntu mate, but stuck on inet connection. my wifi has no detect
[12:17] <cstaffords> reboot it. Thats what i did, because i installed it on my raspberry pi, and I had the same problem. i rebooted it, and here I am.
[12:18] <cikal> thanks, i'll try it.
[12:19] <cstaffords> :)
[12:19] <cikal> what raspberry pi version you have?
[12:20] <cstaffords> RPi 3 Model B
[12:20] <cikal> new version
[12:20] <cstaffords> newset
[12:20] <cstaffords> *Newest
[12:20] <cikal> :)
[12:21] <cstaffords> :)
[12:22] <cikal> thanks for the tips, i must restart this old machine. i'll be back soon.. :)
[12:22] <cstaffords> ok
[12:28] <sixwheeledbeast^> do you have OpenJDK installed?
[12:29] <cstaffords> yes
[12:30] <cikal_> @cstaffords i has restart it, but 0 result.. :(
[12:30] <cstaffords> ohhhh. is wifi on?
[12:30] <cikal_> no
[12:31] <cikal_> event i pressed the button, notting happen..
[12:31] <cstaffords> hmmm. Press. "Print Screen" and upload the screenshot to Cubeupload.com then, send me the image. I am (Somewhat) good with computers.
[12:33] <sixwheeledbeast^> Some laptops can have proprietary drivers for wifi and can be awkward. do you know what model you have?
[12:34] <sixwheeledbeast^> b43-installer for broadcom was the one I needed for my Dell
[12:35] <cikal_> i has try it using b43-fwcutter but no result
[12:37] <sixwheeledbeast^> did you run the installer too?
[12:38] <KTrad> is it a broadcom chipset?
[12:39] <sixwheeledbeast^> A quick search says BCM4311 can you confirm?
[12:40] <cikal_> yes, i'll try it
[12:41] <cikal_> my connection going poor
[12:41] <cikal_> sorry for late repply..:)
[12:44] <sixwheeledbeast^> Should be a simple  sudo apt-get update && apt-get install firmware-b43-installer  then run though the installer to setup.
[13:41] <cikal> still stuck on wifi
[13:42] <cikal> hard to fix it
[14:09] <sixwheeledbeast^> cikal: Failing that you could try ndiswrapper. Although b43 should be fine, I would say you need to remove the default installed drivers before running the b43 installer.
[14:10] <Jack_Sparrow__> I thought it was cutter something to get those going
[14:11] <Jack_Sparrow__> fw=
[14:12] <Jack_Sparrow__> b43-fwcutter
[14:17] <Menzador> And by remove, we mean [ sudo modprobe -r $NECESSARY_DRIVERS ]
[14:18] <endergamer2001> :join
[14:19] <endergamer2001> salut
[14:19] <endergamer2001> ca ca
[14:19] <sixwheeledbeast^> fwcutter was installed already if I read correctly
[14:19] <ouroumov> !fr | endergamer2001
[14:21] <sixwheeledbeast^> I have switched a few odd laptops over to UbuntuMATE, all Broadcom. To get it to work I normally have to remove the default open drivers then run b43- installer, which I recall pulls b43-fwcutter
[14:23] <sixwheeledbeast^> The default drivers where fine for ethernet but wifi would not work, on these devices.
[15:07] <Kenzo> hey all,
[15:08] <Kenzo> does anyone know of a fix to get channel 4 and 5 on demand working? i can't watch anything on them. all forum answers point to installing hal/hal-info that doesn't seem to be maintained or available in synaptic
[15:59] <Kenzo> does anyone know of a fix to get channel 4 and 5 on demand working? i can't watch anything on them. all forum answers point to installing hal/hal-info that doesn't seem to be maintained or available in synaptic
[16:02] <Jack_Sparrow__> Kenzo, can you show me link that you cant get?
[16:05] <Kenzo> Jack_Sparrow__, http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-crystal-maze-celebrity-specials/on-demand/65986-017
[16:06] <Jack_Sparrow__> tx
[16:21] <live> Hi Ubuntu MATE community, unfortunatly I cannot boot my laptop anymore, I was dual booting with Win10 and wonder if there is anyone who could help me out, currently grub is in rescue mode when I start
[16:23] <ouroumov_> hi live
[16:23] <live> hi ouromumov
[16:24] <ouroumov_> live, can I assume due to your username that you are booted into the live session?
[16:24] <live> yes I am already in the live session
[16:24] <live> I am at the end of my knowledge, tried a lot but I hope there is still a way to recover data
[16:24] <ouroumov_> try sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[16:24] <live> I have win10 on sda4
[16:25] <live> the ntfs partions are still recognized in gparted
[16:25] <live> but the linux one is not
[16:25] <ouroumov_> hm
[16:25] <live> win10 apparently completely nuked the partition
[16:25] <live> sorry i meant i have win10 on sda1, 2, and 3
[16:26] <ouroumov_> well in that case if your partition is gone your only option would be using recovery software
[16:26] <ouroumov_> But just so you know, this is not fun
[16:26] <live> is there a way i could try booting into windows
[16:26] <live> the ntfs partitions are still recognized as such when i ran gparted
[16:27] <live> but i dont know how i can get win10 to start as grub is in rescue mode upon boot
[16:27] <ouroumov_> and where's the data you care about? In the windows partitions?
[16:27] <live> most important data is in the win10 partitions
[16:27] <live> if i could get win10 to load, that would be a tremendous help
[16:27] <ouroumov_> in that case, <ouroumov_> try sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[16:28] <live> sudo grub-install /dev/sda4 or sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[16:28] <ouroumov_>  /sda
[16:29] <live> Installing for i386-pc platform.
[16:29] <live>   WARNING: Failed to connect to lvmetad. Falling back to device scanning.
[16:29] <live>   Volume group "live" not found
[16:29] <live>   Cannot process volume group live
[16:29] <live>   WARNING: Failed to connect to lvmetad. Falling back to device scanning.
[16:29] <live>   Volume group "live" not found
[16:29] <live>   Cannot process volume group live
[16:29] <live> grub-install: error: disk `lvm/live-rw' not found.
[16:29] <live> this is the error message I get
[16:31] <ouroumov_> Hmm, see this: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1347375
[16:33] <live> strange, whats LVM..
[16:33] <live> i dont even know I had this on my laptop
[16:34] <ouroumov_> alternatively in the live session you should have a tool called "boot repair", you could try that first
[16:34] <live> should I just follow these commands or do I need to modify them
[16:34] <live> if the commands on from the forums are fine, I will try these first...
[16:36] <ouroumov_> I don't know if they're fine
[16:36] <ouroumov_> I've never been in your situation
[16:36] <ouroumov_> However, I've used boot-repair before
[16:36] <ouroumov_> It doesn't break stuff
[16:37] <live> there is no other way to get past grub rescue?
[16:38] <ouroumov_> Not that I know of, you've welcome to wait for input from an expert, or ask on our community forums.
[16:39] <live> thanks ouroumov_ I read up on this a bit more, will be around here on IRC
[16:40] <live> I wonder how this happened, I just remember running a regular win10 update and suddenly this happened
[16:40] <ouroumov_> Windows 10 has been know to screw with Ubuntu partitions.
[16:41] <ouroumov_> live, see https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/warning-to-dual-booters-reports-that-windows-10-aniversary-update-is-killing-linux-partitions/7942
[16:41] <live> ah shit
[17:08] <Jack_Sparrow__> !abs-quide
[17:08] <Jack_Sparrow__> !find abs-quide
[17:09] <Jack_Sparrow__> !find abs
[19:06] <Ceadda> Occasionally my screen raster goes haywire - finegrained horizontal lines, impossible to recover(unless you know a trick?) other than reboot. Unable to pin it to any particular action. Display driver seems right (Samsung SyncMaster 930B)
[19:07] <ouroumov_> hello Ceadda
[19:07] <ouroumov_> Ceadda, your screen model has nothing to do with the display driver
[19:07] <ouroumov_> check the output of inxi -G
[19:07] <Ceadda> Hang on... trying now
[19:08] <Ceadda> Ok coming up with NVIDIA C61, Display Server X.Org 1.19.3, drivers nouveau
[19:09] <ouroumov_> So maybe you should try to use the proprietary nvidia driver instead
[19:10] <Ceadda> Right - seems to me I was trying to get that nvidia driver on another platform.
[19:10] <Ceadda> You search for that under "Additional Software" right?  Or more direct way?
[19:10] <Ceadda> Forgive my relatively novice approach to Ubuntu/linux
[19:13] <ouroumov_> Software & update settings -> additional drivers
[19:14] <Ceadda> sorry - important phone call
[19:27] <Ceadda> Back - ouroumov, still there?
[19:29] <Ceadda> ouromov - sorry for delay, had to speak with the "GOVERNMENT" - trying to solve a different type of problem.
[19:30] <ouroumov_> Ceadda, yeah, np
[19:30] <Ceadda> I'm in Additional drivers and see it was set to X.Org X server/nouveau driver.  It shows the Nvidia v304.135 driver, will go for it. Seems last time I had a hard time recovering from this.
[19:30] <ouroumov_> hang on
[19:32] <Ceadda> Hanging...     for what it's worth, I worried it was hardware but this machine also runs Windows with no problem at all, so likely a driver issue.
[19:32] <ouroumov_> yeah, there's a newer driver available, maybe worth trying if last time it failed
[19:33] <ouroumov_> See lah7's post here: https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/nvidia-issue-nvidia-settings/3254/3?u=ouroumov
[19:33] <Ceadda> Thanks...
[19:34] <Jack_Sparrow__> Use graphic-drivers ppa and install nvidia-381 nvidia-prime nvidia-prime-applet
[19:35] <Ceadda> Ok Jack and ouromov - going the ppa route.  I'll check back in...
[19:38] <Jack_Sparrow__> microcode then reboot if i rem
[19:42] <mate|6138> Hi, could use some assistance getting mate onto microSD
[19:42] <mate|6138> Did the DL for raspberry PI, used 7 zip to unzip the 3 files
[19:43] <mate|6138> when using win32diskimage, I copied the .img file (not the other two) to the SD drive.  IT asked to format and I said yest to FAT32
[19:43] <mate|6138> Did I miss somethiong?
[19:45] <mate|6138> Anyone?
[19:45] <Jack_Sparrow__> yes.. how was img written?
[19:46] <Jack_Sparrow__> im scanning this.. http://www.askvg.com/win32-disk-imager-write-any-bootable-image-to-usb-drive-in-windows/
[19:47] <mate|6138> I just browsed to the img file and selected the usb, then hit the WRITE button
[19:47] <Jack_Sparrow__> did it leave a .img file on the chip
[19:48] <mate|6138> can't tell from windows because windows says the care needs to be formatted when I plug the USB back in.
[19:48] <mate|6138> Should I reformat the USB 1st, then try this again?
[19:49] <Jack_Sparrow__> I cant help you with this...
[19:49] <Jack_Sparrow__> properly wrinting image should not need format.. like writing iso
[19:50] <ouroumov_> mate|6138, hang on a sec
[19:50] <ouroumov_> mate|6138, did you download the image from ubuntu-mate.org ?
[19:50] <mate|6138> I've never used win32diskimage in the past.  Always used RUFUS for this type of thing, but figured it best to follow the directons on ubuntu-mate
[19:51] <mate|6138> YES, d/l from ubuntu-mate
[19:51] <mate|6138> Just 20 mins ago.
[19:52] <ouroumov_> mate|6138, the website says to use ddrescue
[19:53] <ouroumov_> oh, right you're on windows
[19:53] <mate|6138> actually, the D/L was from bytemark, one of their suggested D/L partners.   Yes on Windows
[19:54] <ouroumov_> well sorry I don't know about win32diskimager either
[19:54] <Jack_Sparrow__> mintstick ..
[19:55] <Jack_Sparrow__> http://www.askvg.com/ultimate-collection-of-best-freeware-to-create-bootable-usb-drive-to-install-windows-and-linux/
[19:55] <mate|6138> Will try using RUFUS.  I know that has worked for me in the past.
[19:58] <Ceadda> ouroumov_   I am at NVIDIA version 304.135, thanks for your help
[19:59] <Ceadda> Jack_Sparrow   I tried the "ppa" approach you recommended, and got the same nvidia version 304.135 that was provided under "additional drivers."   I believe I'm all set, will have to see if display raster problem reappears, seemed very random.
[19:59] <Jack_Sparrow__> Ceadda, what nvidis chipdry
[19:59] <Jack_Sparrow__> set
[20:00] <ouroumov_> NVIDIA C61
[20:00] <Jack_Sparrow__> tx
[20:00] <Ceadda> tx both
[20:01] <Ceadda> By the way - if the raster breakage happens, is there a way to recover other than rebooting?
[20:02] <Ceadda> I wondered if I can "function key" out of the graphics, reset something and restart it.
[20:03] <Jack_Sparrow__> load noveau or something
[20:04] <Ceadda> With screen garbled I first have to get out of graphics into command-line mode, if that's possible
[20:05] <Ceadda> Ctrl-Function key?
[20:06] <Ceadda> Anyway - all done, thanks again.
[20:07] <ouroumov_> Ceadda,
[20:07] <ouroumov_> arg
[21:09] <johnSmith> what is a good alternative to ubuntu software center?
[23:39] <rthornton> Interesting bug with both VMware & VirtualBox with Ubuntu as host;  Fedora Cinnamon as a guest always wants to run in a rendering mode.  This is the only virtual machine OS I have tried which does this;  if Windows is the host, then it doesn't happen;  I guess its the video drivers, ?  why is the GL support more limited?
[23:39] <rthornton> its strange because Fedora XFCE runs beautifully as a VM on top of Ubuntu
[23:39] <johnSmith> odd
[23:40] <johnSmith> any idea why?
[23:40] <rthornton> I am using Ubuntu Mate 17.04 now on a fully supported Dell Inspiron 3655 with 16 GB of main memory, 1 Terabyte HD
[23:40] <rthornton> I think the AMD video driver is not as fully functional as its Windows counterpart
[23:41] <rthornton> although this particular Dell is listed as 100% compatible by Ubuntu and is a great box for $300
[23:41] <johnSmith> I mean there are so many posiblities, but its probably a bug with cinaanmon
[23:41] <johnSmith> cinnamon
[23:41] <rthornton> I agree with you John
[23:42] <rthornton> I m just playing with Fedora - I find it less interesting than Ubuntu all around, but its fun to look at others
[23:42] <johnSmith> alternatively it could also be a bug with the drivers, or both cinnamon and the drivers at the same time
[23:42] <johnSmith> or your hardware
[23:43] <johnSmith> might want to tell the cinnamon devs thouhg
[23:43] <johnSmith> though
[23:44] <rthornton> I never tried this box as a Windows box; I kept a Win 10 reinstall thumb drive, and I have tested this on several windows machines with Cinnamon running as desired, not in the rendering mode
[23:44] <rthornton> others on the VMware forums have complained of this since Fedora 20
[23:44] <rthornton> so its an older bug,
[23:45] <rthornton> on a more positive note, Ubuntu Mate 17.04 is really good
[23:46] <rthornton> Best OS I have used on a PC
[23:51] <cikal> morning all, can somebody tell me how to install LAMPP on this os.