[00:10] <Roey> hihi
[00:12] <Roey> I recently switched routers and am trying to figure out why I can no longer connect to SSH on my machine at home even though I've set the router to port-forward it.
[00:12] <Roey> lordievader: hello!
[00:14] <shadow98> https://pastebin.com/uzWBXtnu
[00:16] <Roey> oh nevermind I Got it working
[00:16] <Roey> thanks
[00:16] <Roey> hey shad
[00:16] <Roey> shadow98: hi
[00:16] <Roey> shadow98: what's in that pastebin?
[00:17] <shadow98> trying to get cmake working
[00:18] <shadow98> actually following this https://github.com/KDE/kio-gdrive
[00:18] <shadow98> the cmake part of the installation instructions if failing for me
[00:32] <shadow98> http://i.imgur.com/COA5pVT.png
[00:32] <shadow98> i have 2 issues I would like to resolve they are pasted in the urls above.
[00:34] <calcmandan> Roey: do you have the sshd daemon running?
[00:34] <Roey> yes
[00:34] <calcmandan> Roey: do you have ssh listening on your system on standard port 22 or did you set it to a different one?
[00:34] <Roey> I found that it was  a mismatch between the port I was supplying ssh and to the router in the IP forward section, and the /actual/ port htat SSHD was listening on
[00:34] <calcmandan> oh nevermind, you got it working
[00:34] <Roey> calcmandan: correct
[00:34] <Roey> thanks though :)
[00:35] <calcmandan> i didn't read down.
[00:35] <Roey> now I am trying to figure out why this thing doesn't connect to my dyndns address
[00:35] <Roey> calcmandan, aye no worries
[00:35] <calcmandan> you lost me there. i have a static ip
[00:35] <calcmandan> bt i may setup a pihole soon.
[01:14] <shadow98> yes
[01:14] <shadow98> https://pastebin.com/fWeGDHru got a little farter by install g++
[01:23] <MobileRoey> hai!!
[01:24] <MobileRoey> ok now I have another issue:  on my laoptop (hence MobileRoey) I am trying to do-release-upgrade from 16.10 -> 17.04.  It got interrupted though.. when I try it now, I get: https://pastebin.com/UB7gfgcU
[01:33] <Dragnslcr> MobileRoey- cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:34] <Dragnslcr> A few lines down, you should see something like "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ zesty main restricted"
[01:34] <Dragnslcr> Does yours say "zesty" or "yakkety"?
[01:37] <MobileRoey> yeah they all say zesty.
[01:37] <MobileRoey> it changed that file at least
[01:37] <MobileRoey> the installer must've, the first  time I ran it
[01:37] <MobileRoey> do-release-upgrade I mean.
[01:37] <Dragnslcr> Doing a release upgrade is basically just changing the repositories and then doing a normal package update
[01:38] <MobileRoey> oh I didn't know that.
[01:38] <Dragnslcr> So you should be able to just do a normal apt update and apt dist-upgrade
[01:38] <nauticalnexus> Hi, Kubuntu 17.04 keeps trying to mount 2 encrypted partitions. I have no encrypted partitions. I have never had encrypted partitions on this install.
[01:38] <nauticalnexus> Well systemd I guess. It does it on boot
[01:39] <MobileRoey> E: The package linux-headers-4.8.0-51-generic needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[01:39] <MobileRoey> that is when I run dist-upgrade
[01:41] <MobileRoey> Dragnslcr, ^
[01:42] <Dragnslcr> I don't think 17.04 has any 4.8 kernel packages
[01:42] <Dragnslcr> At least I only see 4.10 packages
[01:43] <Dragnslcr> MobileRoey- run "uname -a" to check what kernel version you're running
[01:44] <Dragnslcr> If you're running a newer kernel, it should be safe to remove packages for older kernels
[01:48] <MobileRoey>  4.8.0-51-generic #54-Ubuntu SMP Tue Apr 25 16:32:21 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[01:48] <MobileRoey> so that's 4.10
[01:49] <MobileRoey> 5.04 is 4.10
[01:49] <MobileRoey> I know that at least
[01:50] <MobileRoey> is that how you are seeing if it is still running the rest of 14.10, with the kernel version?  Why, because if yo uuse lsb_release -a, it will say Zesty when it really hasn;t even started to change over yet
[01:54] <Dragnslcr> MobileRoey- try running "apt remove linux-headers-4.8.0-51-generic"
[01:55] <Dragnslcr> Since you won't need that package after the upgrade anyway
[01:56] <Roey> ok
[01:56] <Roey> in a bit
[01:56] <Roey> thanks
[01:57] <Roey> so then what if I continue to get this same error afterwards?
[02:02] <Dragnslcr> Roey- I'm not certain. You might be able to download and install the package manually. I don't know if changing your repositories back to 16.10 would break lots of other things.
[02:27] <Oderus> hi. desperately trying to backup a dvd but each time i try it says k3b needs transcode installed. I have it installed but still get the message. any ideas? sorry to crosspost, i just realized i posted in ubuntu and not kubuntu
[04:10] <Maynard> Sooooooo wtf? I cannot get in #ubuntu as directed by the dev in studio.
[04:11] <Maynard> something about registering which it says usernam invalid...changed.ok email now invalid??? It MY email FFS!
[04:12] <oerheks> Maynard, #ubuntu is currently under spam attacks, so you need to register and log in with that account, i can see you are not logged in yet
[04:12] <Maynard> WHat the hell am I doing wrong???? Been looking at hundreds of answers in the wrong scenario for me for DAYS now.
[04:12] <oerheks> help with registering in #freenode
[04:12] <Maynard> Right.....I followed the directions.  Invalid email (MY email).
[04:14] <Maynard> ......
[04:15] <Maynard> OK.  SO I made a bootable Live USB. When I do the install everything is fine now.  Reboot and casper/vmlinuz not found.   But I think it should be in the EFI file and a .efi no?
[04:18] <Maynard> I already ran boot-repair and that worked a couple times then ran pages of code and no boot.
[04:19] <Maynard> Is there anybody out there in 218 of you all?
[04:20] <Maynard> Really? <oerkeks>
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[04:22] <Maynard> Bueller?
[04:24] <oerheks> i have no experience with EFI/UEFI, but there is a manual for that
[04:24] <oerheks> !uefi
[04:27] <Maynard> SO I closed by acciedent.
[04:27] <Maynard> Anyone come out?
[05:46] <lordievader> Good morning
[06:11] <ndosho> how to reverse cursor in kde
[08:13] <ryzokuken> Kubuntu 17.04 is buggy AF.
[08:13] <ryzokuken> I tried to shutdown my computer, the greeter failed miserably.
[08:14] <ryzokuken> Then, the distro just failed to run any app or do anything whatsoever, so I went to tty1 and used `shutdown 0` (which is bad, the distro SHOULD shutdown normally without much poking)
[08:14] <ryzokuken> now, X just won't start.
[08:15] <ryzokuken> the ttys run okay, but the graphical environment just show a black screen.
[08:15] <ryzokuken> is there a way to fix this? I just installed the nvidia drivers, is it because of them?
[08:17] <hateball> ryzokuken: Could well be
[08:18] <hateball> ryzokuken: How did you install them?
[08:18] <ryzokuken> using the normal GUI utility
[08:18] <hateball> ryzokuken: What chipset do you have?
[08:18] <ryzokuken> my GPU?
[08:18] <hateball> ryzokuken: Yea
[08:18] <ryzokuken> Its a GT 920M
[08:19] <hateball> ryzokuken: And what driver did you pick? Not 340 I guess?
[08:19] <hateball> 340 is for legacy chipets
[08:19] <ryzokuken> actually, it autopicks one
[08:19] <hateball> ryzokuken: you can also use "ubuntu-drivers" in cli to manage drivers
[08:20] <ryzokuken> yes. It probably used nvidia-375
[08:20] <hateball> or just simply "sudo apt install nvidia-375"
[08:20] <hateball> hmmm, that should work tho
[08:20] <hateball> ryzokuken: Is SDDM black, or does it turn black after you log in?
[08:20] <ryzokuken> hateball: doing that would automagically take care of nouveau?
[08:21] <ryzokuken> hateball: no SDDM as well.
[08:21] <ryzokuken> it seems to be an issue with X
[08:21] <hateball> ryzokuken: yea installling nvidia-X blacklists nouveau etc
[08:21] <ryzokuken> hateball: okay, cool.
[08:21] <hateball> ryzokuken: maybe it failed building the modules properly, make sure dkms is installed
[08:22] <hateball> apt install dkms
[08:22] <ryzokuken> I also installed intel-microcode, but I doubt it'll interfere.
[08:22] <hateball> no that's fine
[08:23] <ryzokuken> I'm on the same machine on another distro.
[08:23] <hateball> oh so you're livebooted? or dual booted?
[08:23] <ryzokuken> hateball: can I somehow chroot into that installation and do all the installation?
[08:23] <ryzokuken> hateball: dual booted
[08:24] <hateball> ryzokuken: I... havent fiddled with chroots in an age
[08:24] <hateball> so I cant be of much help. but I suppose you could
[08:25] <hateball> ryzokuken: while it shouldnt be needed, you could also try the latest beta driver from PPA if you like
[08:25] <hateball> that would be done with: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa && sudo apt update && sudo apt install nvidia-381
[08:25] <ryzokuken> I hardly think that's the issue.
[08:25] <hateball> ryzokuken: oh and is this a hybrid gpu?
[08:25] <ryzokuken> I mean, I have used 375 for sometime.
[08:25] <ryzokuken> hateball: it is.
[08:25] <hateball> yes the 920 series should be supported by 375
[08:26] <ryzokuken> I have been using ubuntu and mint variants for quite some time now, never faced issues like this.
[08:26] <hateball> ryzokuken: so you have had the machine working on 17.04 + 375 driver?
[08:26] <ryzokuken> yes.
[08:26] <hateball> right, so it has broken now, presumably after an update?
[08:26] <ryzokuken> mostly 16.04 + 375, but also 17.04 + 375 iirc
[08:27] <ryzokuken> hateball: I just installed kubuntu, wanted to try KDE
[08:27] <oerheks> run dpkg --configure -a # and then hit ctrl alt F7 again?
[08:28] <ryzokuken> oerheks: I'll definitely try that.
[08:28] <oerheks> and run updates again/ apt install -f
[08:28] <ryzokuken> I didn't update the system yet.
[08:29] <ryzokuken> Installing the drivers is usually the first thing I do when I install a new distro
[08:29] <oerheks> updates, driver(s), ant then the riddle of apps you want
[08:32] <amichair_> hi, I just tried to run an upgrade from yakkety to zesty, and it seemed to fail to install kubuntu-desktop. After reboot I saw a kde login screen, but after that just empty wallpaper, though I can access terminal via ctrl-alt-f1. I also have no wireless after reboot so hard to try to change sources etc... how do I fix this?
[08:33] <hateball> amichair_: you can use nmcli to connect to wifi from a tty
[08:33] <amichair_> hateball: I'm trying to do that, but it says "active connection removed before it was initialized"
[08:34] <amichair_> hateball: I ran nmcli c up <ssid>
[08:35] <hateball> amichair_: perhaps the zesty kernel disagrees with your wifi chipset. do you see anything in dmesg ?
[08:37] <amichair_> hateball: IPv6: ADDRCONF (NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready
[08:38] <amichair_> hateball: shouldn't be ipv6, though maybe it's unrelated?
[08:40] <hateball> amichair_: yeah thats unrelated
[08:40] <hateball> amichair_: what wifi chipset is it?
[08:43] <amichair_> hateball: I think it's atheros 9k or something like that... how do I check?
[08:43] <hateball> amichair_: lspci -k
[08:43] <hateball> amichair_: that will show you the module it uses as well
[08:43] <hateball> and if you try unloading and reloading the module, any complaints should be logged to dmesg
[08:44] <hateball> like if it needs a firmware file that is not present on the system or something like that
[08:44] <amichair_> hateball: ya, ath9k, AR9485
[08:59] <hateball> amichair_: try "sudo modprobe -r ath9k && sudo modprobe ath9k" and then run dmesg
[09:00] <hateball> apparently it has loaded the module at least
[09:01] <amichair_> hateball: ok, I did rmmod and modprobe (I assume rmmode is the same as modprobe -r), then tried nmcli again and it gave a different message about password
[09:01] <amichair_> hateball: it says to use --ask, but that results in the same error as before
[09:02] <amichair_> hateball: so I removed+added the module again, and ran nmcli --ask, and then it did prompt for the password and it works
[09:02] <amichair_> so that error message basically means you need to remove and add the module and immediately run with --ask
[09:02] <amichair_> how intuitive :-)
[09:03] <hateball> heh
[09:04] <hateball> amichair_: well now you have connectivity at least? if the sources are configured correctly I suppose you can continue upgrading
[09:04] <amichair_> hateball: yeah, now connected, and back to original problem
[09:05] <amichair_> hateball: everything seems up to date, but apt install kubuntu-desktop complains about invalid request (some dependency mismatch or something)
[09:05] <hateball> amichair_: telepathy stuff?
[09:06] <amichair_> hateball: kinfocenter,kwin,plasma-desktop,sddm-theme-beeze all say "but it is not going to be installed"
[09:08] <acheronuk> apt-get install plasma-desktop ?
[09:08] <amichair_> hateball: when I try installing them, most say that plasma-workspace is missing and not going to be installed, and kwin says the same about kwin-x11
[09:08] <amichair_> acheronuk: yeah, that gives the above error message
[09:08] <acheronuk> apt-get install plasma-workspace then
[09:09] <hateball> amichair_: had you been using backports ppa?
[09:09] <amichair_> hateball: I think so
[09:09] <amichair_> hateball: I just tried re-adding it now, but doesn't help
[09:09] <hateball> amichair_: if you run: apt policy plasma-desktop, where does it point to?
[09:10] <amichair_> acheronuk: when I try plasma-workspace, the missing ones are qml-module-org-kde-extensionplugin and libkscreenlocker5
[09:10] <hateball> amichair_: I mean does it list a ppa or just the main repos?
[09:11] <amichair_> hateball: installed none, candidate has ~ppa1 at end
[09:12] <ryzokuken> hateball: nothing helped. :(
[09:12] <ryzokuken> I think it might be an SDDM issue
[09:12] <acheronuk> amichair_: full version please
[09:13] <hateball> ryzokuken: could try a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure sddm" I suppose
[09:15] <amichair_> hateball: plasma-workspace: 4:5.9.5.1-0ubuntu0.1~ubuntu17.04~ppa1
[09:15] <amichair_> (I hope with no typos :-) )
[09:17] <acheronuk> so you have updates ppa enabled, not backports
[09:19] <hateball> amichair_: I'd disable the PPAs and make sure you can install the main packages first
[09:21] <amichair_> hateball: only *.list files in /etc/apt are used?
[09:23] <acheronuk> *.list in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ are also used
[09:24] <hateball> amichair_: if you've used apt-add-repository they'll be in where acheronuk said
[09:25] <acheronuk> though they should be disabled in you properly do a distribution upgrade with upgrade-manager
[09:28] <acheronuk> ryzokuken: make sure that you are trying to boot the kernel Nvidia modules built for, and that update-initramfs has been run for that one
[09:28] <ryzokuken> acheronuk: I'll look for that in GRUB
[09:28] <ryzokuken> wait, ill try and brb
[09:29] <amichair> it has a version of kwayland-data from ppa, I'll try forcing it to install the non-ppa one
[09:33] <amichair> also libkf5activities5 needs downgrade from ppa
[09:35] <ryzokuken> acheronuk: I realized there were two kernel versions
[09:35] <ryzokuken> 4.10.19 and 4.10.24
[09:36] <acheronuk> and........ ?
[09:36] <ryzokuken> 4.10.19 must be the original one, it ran and nvidia-375 was installed but it probably wasn't running.
[09:36] <ryzokuken> 4.10.24 must be the one I modified, and it does not work.
[09:38] <acheronuk> odd. I was running Nvidia 375 just fine on zesty for a short while.
[09:38] <ryzokuken> :/
[09:38] <ryzokuken> idk what's the problem, but it's strange something like this has happened.
[09:39] <ryzokuken> I used to use Debian testing (which isn't supposed to be perfectly stable) but such things never happened even back then.
[09:39] <ryzokuken> acheronuk: what should I do?
[09:41] <ryzokuken> acheronuk: hateball: you guys there?
[09:41] <amichair> hateball acheronuk: after downgrading kwayland-data and libkf5activities5, I could install kubuntu-desktop, and it seems to work now
[09:41] <amichair> thanks a bunch to both of you!
[09:42] <acheronuk> amichair: good. you had a mismatch of ppa versions somehow. not quite sure how, but all good
[09:42] <acheronuk> when I tested upgrades that did not occur
[09:43] <amichair> acheronuk: is that a bug in the repos? i.e. a newer repo should include the same or newer packages as the older repo?
[09:44] <acheronuk> ryzokuken: well, I would try purging and then re-installing the Nvidia drivers, making sure the modules build for the kernel you want to run
[09:44] <acheronuk> make sure you are not trying to run a wayland session
[09:44] <ryzokuken> okay
[09:44] <ryzokuken> acheronuk: how do I?
[09:44] <amichair> hmmm... I submitted a patch to software-properties-kde so double-clicking on a source will open its edit box, so you can easily remove all the annoying comments after an upgrade... but it hasn't been picked up yet
[09:45] <ryzokuken> I usually select in the DM
[09:45] <ryzokuken> but the DM isn't showing up
[09:45] <acheronuk> sudo apt-get purge nvidia-375
[09:47] <ryzokuken> acheronuk: so I run the bad kernel version, open a tty, purge the driver, reinstall the driver and it'll be fixed?
[09:47] <acheronuk> amichair: not aware of an issue. those ppa packages were tested, and should have virtually no dep changes
[09:49] <amichair> acheronuk: if it helps, the bad ppa version were 5.34.something, and the good downgraded ones are 5.31.0-0ubuntu1
[09:49] <acheronuk> ryzokuken: I would 'try' that. who knows if it will fix it. black screens with Nvidia and KDE are often a PITA to sort out
[09:49] <amichair> acheronuk: how can I see what a default clean sources.list should look like?
[09:49] <ryzokuken> acheronuk:
[09:49] <ryzokuken> acheronuk: okay **
[09:49] <ryzokuken> brb
[10:00] <ryzokuken> acheronuk: you're an angel.
[10:00] <acheronuk> it worked?
[10:01] <ryzokuken> Sysinfo for 'black-perl': Running inside KDE Plasma 5.9.4 on Ubuntu 17.04 (Zesty Zapus) powered by Linux 4.10.0-24-generic, CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-5005U CPU @ 2.00GHz at 1602-1886/1900 MHz, RAM: 1722/3864 MB, Storage: 7/455 GB, 197 procs, 0.09h up
[10:01] <ryzokuken> :)
[10:02] <ryzokuken> I'm sending this from konversation.
[10:02] <acheronuk> cool \o/
[10:02] <oerheks> :-)
[10:02] <ryzokuken> nvidia-xsettings work as well, so I think the driver is working
[10:02] <ryzokuken> although, the system tray icon does not show up (strange)
[10:03] <acheronuk> not sure it ever has on KDE
[10:03]  * acheronuk has never seen it
[10:03] <ryzokuken> I have seen it once, but maybe it does not show up now
[10:05] <ryzokuken> acheronuk: I don't think it's a problem.
[10:05] <ryzokuken> although it does a great job by making it clear that the nvidia GPU is in use
[10:06] <acheronuk> oh, yes, you have a hybrid.
[10:06] <acheronuk> I don't and don't install any of the supporting stuff
[10:07] <ryzokuken> yeah :P
[10:07] <ryzokuken> maybe it only shows up on hybrid cards?
[10:11] <hateball> ryzokuken: it should be quite clear in the prime settings in nvidia-settings also
[10:11] <hateball> which card is in use, that is
[10:12] <ryzokuken> hateball: it is.
[10:12] <ryzokuken> which is why I said that it isn't really a problem.
[10:13] <ryzokuken> but I checked in the settings, I have an option called "display status bar" enabled, so it *should* work
[10:14] <hateball> ryzokuken: do you have like a blank icon in the tray?
[10:14] <hateball> or no icon at all
[10:14] <hateball> well, I should say entry
[11:06] <ryzokuken> hateball: nope, no icon on the lines of "nvidia" or "intel"
[11:07] <ryzokuken> maybe it'll be there when I restart?
[11:11] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:28] <ryzokuken> guys, I am having a few more issues.
[12:28] <ryzokuken> primarily with KDE's theming engine. No wonder I never really tried changing themes in KDE in the past
[12:29] <ryzokuken> I tried to install Arc-KDE, but the theme application is kinda patchy.
[12:29] <ryzokuken> I mean, it feels like it didn't get applied *everywhere*
[12:30] <ryzokuken> where do I apply a theme so that it becomes the default for all other options? (eg: I don't really want to choose window decorations and 99 other things manually, I just want to set *everything* to theme "X".
[12:30] <ryzokuken> plus, applications keep crashing :/
[12:31] <ryzokuken> never had this kind of problems with Ubuntu, Mint or even Debian before (had a few minor hiccups with Arch) :(
[12:32] <hateball> the look and feel thing is a WIP afaik
[12:33] <ryzokuken> really? I thought the desktop environment was kinda old.
[12:34] <ryzokuken> and well developed. I mean, most people hail KDE to be the best developed environment out there.
[12:36] <hateball> KDE 3.5, 4, and Plasma 5 are quite different tho
[12:36] <ryzokuken> I get it.
[12:37] <ryzokuken> Although, Plasma 5 is on 5.9 (for me atleast)
[12:37] <ryzokuken> so that's quite some versions.
[12:38] <hateball> Yep
[12:38] <hateball> But look&feel is new-ish still
[12:40] <ryzokuken> I get it.
[12:40] <ryzokuken> Still looks great, though.
[12:44] <kubiak_> can someone help me with a question regarding find?
[12:47] <kubiak_> Does anyone know how to use the "find" command in terminal to search in text files which have ansi encoding?
[12:55] <Pici> kubiak_: find doesn't look inside files.
[12:56] <oerheks> i use grep for that > grep -R "text " .
[12:56] <kubiak_> oh, i thought something like find . -name "*.php" | xargs grep -il "TEXT" would help me...
[12:58] <kubiak_> I've gotten this far, that works with utf-8 characters, but it does not work with ANSI encoded files...
[12:58] <kubiak_> i've also tried find . -name "*.php" | LC_ALL=C xargs grep -il "TEXT_TO_FIND" but no luck...
[12:59] <kubiak_> so here i am... : - )
[13:00] <kubiak_> oh... now i see my  mistake, i should have asked how to use "grep" to do that...
[13:00] <kubiak_> *shy*
[13:01] <oerheks> i was looking about what is so special about ansi ..
[13:01] <oerheks> have fun!
[13:05] <kubiak_> thnx!
[13:40] <EdgyMC_69> Hi. I'm preparing for a test on basic IT stuff and one of the tasks from the previous year asks to create a second root account. I've read something about it and it appears that there's no way to do it. The root account has uid and gid set to 0 but there can't be two account with the same uid. Is it correct?
[13:53] <lordievader> That is correct.
[13:54] <lordievader> There is no possibility of a second root account.
[13:54] <lordievader> However, throwing users in the sudo group effectively does the same thing.
[13:54] <lordievader> I suggest you read the documentation of sudo.
[14:08] <EdgyMC_69> lordievader: but they'd have to use sudo before each command
[14:08] <lordievader> True, or use sudo -i to get a root shell.
[14:08] <EdgyMC_69> o
[14:08] <EdgyMC_69> TIL. Thanks.
[15:02] <EvilRoey> hello
[15:02] <EvilRoey> does anyone here use ZSSH?
[15:03] <EvilRoey> I keep getting this error (even on 17.04): https://stackoverflow.com/questions/25138596/zssh-cant-start-and-shows-out-of-ptys-when-start
[15:03] <EvilRoey> which is apparently this error: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=769366
[15:03] <EvilRoey> which has not been closed yet
[15:03] <EvilRoey> they say a recompile works though
[15:03] <EvilRoey> How do I apt-get compile this?
[15:03] <EvilRoey> lordievader: ^
[15:04] <lordievader> Download the source and build a package, apt does not do the second step.
[15:04] <lordievader> Dpkg does.
[15:21] <EvilRoey> lordievader: hmm ok
[15:21] <EvilRoey> how do I do this?
[15:30] <EvilRoey> lordievader: I get this error in the "debuild" step: https://pastebin.com/8SQTSFq7
[15:52] <lordievader> EvilRoey: read the error... You probably want to build it as root.
[15:56] <EvilRoey> lordievader: ok, hah, that worked
[15:58] <EvilRoey> thanks!!!!
[15:58] <EvilRoey> and yes a recompile was what was needed.
[16:49] <harklark> Hi, if a program in my autostart fails to load (latte-dock in this case) is there a log file somewhere of what went wrong?
[16:53] <aedigital> maybe .xsessions-errors
[16:54] <aedigital> ~/.xsessions-errors
[16:55] <harklark> ill take a look thanks
[16:55] <aedigital> k
[16:55] <harklark> seems like I don't have that folder
[16:56] <harklark> oh wait i see it now
[16:57] <harklark> file not a folder :)
[16:58] <harklark> latte-dock finished with exit code  11
[16:58] <harklark> I have a lead!
[16:58] <harklark> thanks for your help
[17:10] <tms-> After couple of days of headaches, this is towards any KDE developer right here : please write software that does not suck, thank you.
[17:11] <tms-> Pardon the rudeness, couldn't handle it anymore
[17:16] <BluesKaj> tms-, wrong chat, try #kubuntu-devel with your complaint, but be more specific if you intend to ask for support here.or there
[17:17] <tms-> Thanks
 kde developers would be in #kde-devel or #plasma
[17:29] <mparillo_> tms-: And the KDE Devels would probably prefer well-written bugs.kde.org anyway.
[17:31] <mparillo_> https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html
[21:39] <tomtom123> Hey all, just had the following issue, after installing updates yesterday, my graphic session would not start, leaving me in front of a black screen and only the tty sessions would work. running startx did not help. I had to completely remove the nvidia driver and rollback to nouveau to get it working. Anybody know of any issue with the recent upda
[21:39] <tomtom123> tes and nvidia drivers or graphic server?
[21:39] <ikonia> if X doesn't start why do you run "startx" ??? how is that going to help
[21:39] <ikonia> why not read the X org log and see what the problem is
[21:39] <ikonia> more so before tainting any logs
[21:40] <mparillo_> Question: Do we still startx or do we systemctl restart sddm.service
[21:41] <ikonia> the xorg service is launched via the greeter, which is systemctl
[21:42] <tomtom123> yep i did run startx... to see if it would actually start
[21:42] <ikonia> but you know it wouldn't start
[21:42] <ikonia> or it would have started at boot
[21:44] <tomtom123> yep, but how do you know if it didnt start because of a config issue, a timing conflict, etc... or if it is just broken somewhere?
[21:44] <ikonia> tomtom123: you read the log
[21:44] <ikonia> and if it's a config issue, or something broken, randomly typing startx won't fix it
[21:45] <tomtom123> no but at least it would let me use the computer in graphic mode... and then read the log :)
[21:46] <ikonia> no you wouldn't
[21:46] <ikonia> as it won't start....we already established that
[21:50] <tomtom123> anyways, nothing much in the xorg.log.old...
[21:52] <tomtom123> only thing I can find looks more like information than error, a few lines saying NVIDIA(GPU-0): Display (CMN (DFP-0)) does not support NVIDIA 3D Vision