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ahasenack#startmeeting ubuntu-server-team16:00
meetingologyMeeting started Tue Jun 27 16:00:01 2017 UTC.  The chair is ahasenack. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.16:00
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ahasenack#topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting16:00
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ahasenack* cpaelzer reach out to ubuntu-devel@/AA and find out if an audit log of package exceptions exists anywhere16:00
ahasenackcpaelzer: I believe you did that, right?16:00
ahasenackhe did16:00
slashdo/16:01
ahasenack* nacc to write a release notes entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over)16:01
ahasenack* nacc to write a server guide entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over)16:01
ahasenacknacc: carry over?16:01
rbasako/16:01
powersjo/16:02
cpaelzero/16:02
cpaelzerI did and will pull out a link16:02
cpaelzersorry to be late as announced16:02
ahasenacknp16:03
cpaelzerhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2017-June/039831.html16:03
cpaelzerthat is the thread16:03
ahasenack#link https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2017-June/039831.html16:03
ahasenackbot?16:03
cpaelzerwhich is good as it covers where tihngs are today and slangasek 's plan to extend for -updates16:03
dpb1hm16:03
dpb1ahasenack: it doesn't echo on link received iirc16:04
naccahasenack: carry over, please16:04
ahasenacknacc: ok, thx16:04
ahasenack#action * nacc to write a release notes entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over)16:04
meetingologyACTION: * nacc to write a release notes entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over)16:04
dpb1ahasenack: *and* one person specifying #link is enough, not just the chair is recongnized16:04
ahasenack#action * nacc to write a server guide entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over)16:04
meetingologyACTION: * nacc to write a server guide entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over)16:04
ahasenack* powersj schedule a bugsquashing day!16:04
powersjdone!16:04
ahasenackpowersj: I saw you scheduled one for tomorrow, is that correct?16:04
ahasenacknice16:04
powersjyes!16:05
ahasenack* rbasak to add maintainership info to mysql triage page (carried over)16:05
ahasenackrbasak: carry over?16:05
rbasakPlease16:05
ahasenack#action * rbasak to add maintainership info to mysql triage page (carried over)16:05
meetingologyACTION: * rbasak to add maintainership info to mysql triage page (carried over)16:05
ahasenack* rharper to write a server guide entry on v2 yaml support in cloud-init (carried over)16:05
ahasenack* rharper to write a release notes entry on v2 yaml support in cloud-init (carried over)16:05
rharpercarry16:05
ahasenackrharper: news about that?16:05
ahasenackok16:05
ahasenack#action * rharper to write a server guide entry on v2 yaml support in cloud-init (carried over)16:06
meetingologyACTION: * rharper to write a server guide entry on v2 yaml support in cloud-init (carried over)16:06
ahasenack#action * rharper to write a release notes entry on v2 yaml support in cloud-init (carried over)16:06
meetingologyACTION: * rharper to write a release notes entry on v2 yaml support in cloud-init (carried over)16:06
ahasenack* dpb add on the #topic server ddstreet as a backup in case slashd is absent16:06
dpb1done16:06
ahasenackthx16:06
ahasenack* dpb look into why this is stalled https://github.com/lxc/pylxd/issues/23216:06
dpb1done16:06
dpb1well16:06
ahasenackwhy is it stalled?16:06
dpb1I looked into it16:06
dpb1you can leave it on for next week16:06
ahasenackok16:07
ahasenack#action * dpb look into why this is stalled https://github.com/lxc/pylxd/issues/23216:07
meetingologyACTION: * dpb look into why this is stalled https://github.com/lxc/pylxd/issues/23216:07
ahasenack* dpb add agenda item for next week to check on triage progress.16:07
ahasenackdone, I see it16:07
* dpb1 nods16:07
ahasenack#topic Artful Development16:07
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ahasenack#link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtfulAardvark/ReleaseSchedule16:07
ahasenack#subtopic Current Work16:08
ahasenackthere is an alpha coming out today?16:08
ahasenack#link https://trello.com/b/U9HhWyT0/daily-ubuntu-server16:08
dpb1looks like thursday16:08
ahasenackthere are a ton of cards in the review column16:09
ahasenackanything else to add?16:09
ahasenack#subtopic Release Bugs16:10
ahasenack#link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-aa-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server16:10
ahasenackdjango, ubuntu-advantage (esm), ipmi16:10
dpb1I'm looking at ubuntu-advantage-tools, have a branch in progress16:11
ahasenackok16:11
ahasenackmoving on16:11
ahasenack#topic Server & Cloud Bugs & SRU/Pending Uploads (slashd, ddstreet)16:11
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slashdBusiness as usual : http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24963994/ One of the hot topic in STS is the 'pcp' pkg MIR: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iNd6cPJSIIN_lzmJKUPWb0K9rnaeYo3APebH3bkXF8E/view  .We already had some good inputs from cpaelzer and sil2100 but I have invited dgadomski to join the meeting to discuss further about the MIR with the keys persons if appropriate for this meeting.16:11
dgadomskihello everyone16:12
cpaelzerhi16:12
slashdcpaelzer, I know you look at our template already16:12
slashdany concerned ? do you think we are on the good track16:13
slashd?16:13
cpaelzerwell I have two open issues which are noted so far but not yet solved (needs more time)16:13
slashddpb1, did you look Brooks' email for approval ?16:13
dpb1Yes, I was letting it sit a few days waiting for others on the team to have their chance16:13
slashddpb1, sound good16:13
ahasenack#link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-z-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server16:14
slashdcpaelzer, what should be our focus ? fix the bug for now ?16:14
slashd#info SRU pending for : percona-xtradb-cluster-5.5, rsyslog, autofs5, percona-xtradb-cluster-5.6 percona-xtradb-cluster-5.5, multipath-tools, open-iscsi, nfs-utils, ksh16:14
cpaelzerTo get a formal ack I'd want to see somebody step up and drive dep8 tests, manual tests and fixes of anything you have found plus what I (and debian bug reports) reported16:14
cpaelzerthat is approx 1-2 weeks of work plus the push through to Debian and a resync16:15
ahasenackdo I need to echo that info or was it accepted silently?16:15
cpaelzerthe acceptance in Debian would also prove some of the concern that it isn't that actively maintained there16:15
cpaelzerahasenack: for me it shows up in an extra channel to be accepted16:15
ahasenackok16:15
dpb1ahasenack: you have to provide a #link yes16:15
slashddgadomski, any question for the server team about the MIR ?16:16
cpaelzerslashd: dgadomski: also the follow on MIR is kind of untouched16:16
slashdanyting you want to add or address16:16
cpaelzerI reported that you need one for <package I don't remember> but that will be part of the scope as well16:16
dgadomskiyes, from what I read in the feedback those are the things that need to be fixed:16:16
cpaelzerso the full drill once more - bugs, cve's, maintenance status, upstream status, tests in place ... ?16:16
dgadomskidebian bug #805955, startup scripts (try to use the systemd services present in upstream)16:17
ubottuDebian bug 805955 in src:pcp "pcp: FTBFS when built with dpkg-buildpackage -A (no binary artifacts)" [Serious,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/80595516:17
dgadomskiis there anything else that we should focus on at this point?16:17
cpaelzeryes16:18
cpaelzer1. the extra MIR I mentioned16:18
cpaelzer2. <no bug # yet>: add dep8 tests to all of the various binraries of pcp16:18
cpaelzerhonestly I just typed their names and one of them segfaulted16:18
cpaelzerthat is what I meant with "I'd want to see somebody step up and drive dep8 tests, manual tests and fixes of anything you have found plus what I (and debian bug reports) reported"16:18
cpaelzerdgadomski: ^^16:19
dgadomskiok, we will add this to our list, thank you16:19
cpaelzerdgadomski: and one more thing16:19
cpaelzerwhat is your target - artful?16:19
cpaelzeror 18.04?16:19
cpaelzerit wasn't listed int he doc I saw16:19
dgadomskiI believe it's artful16:20
cpaelzerwell then hurry up :-)16:20
ahasenack#info pcp MIR: 1. the extra MIR I mentioned (<cpaelzer> I reported that you need one for <package I don't remember> but that will be part of the scope as well); 2. <no bug # yet>: add dep8 tests to all of the various binraries of pcp16:20
cpaelzerthanks ahasenack16:20
ahasenacksilent bot16:20
dpb1shhh16:21
ahasenackok, so z bugs, long list, but many fix committed (cloud-init mostly)16:21
slashdcpaelzer, any crucial date ? deadline ?16:21
cpaelzerdgadomski: reach out to me at any time if there are questions16:21
dgadomskicpaelzer: I appreciate it, thank you16:21
cpaelzerslashd: deadline is to get all that was mentioned into Debian so that it is autosynced before the auto-sync is stopped16:21
cpaelzerlet me check16:21
ahasenackback to mir16:21
cpaelzerAll mentioned in Debian before 23th August, and a formal MIR bug on both packages with Ack of the security Team16:22
cpaelzerand a Team that says yes to maintain it16:22
slashdcpaelzer, ack ok I think that cover the MIR topic for now16:22
cpaelzeragain you might need dpb1's ack for pcp if he wants us to do, but I'm not sure on the extra dep16:23
dpb1dep8, segfaults, and the other dep are non-negotiable16:23
slashdcpaelzer, there is another thread between mgmt about this16:23
slashddpb1, ack16:23
slashdsound good I think we now know the next step dgadomski anything else ?16:23
cpaelzerextra dep is libpapi5 FYI16:23
dpb1#info pcp has another dep: libpapi5 that would also need a MIR16:24
ahasenack#info pcp MIR: <dpb1> dep8, segfaults, and the other dep are non-negotiable16:24
ahasenack#info <cpaelzer> extra dep is libpapi5 FYI16:24
ahasenackgeez, who is running this? :)16:24
dpb1BOOM!16:24
slashd;)16:24
rbasakSounds like dpb1 just volunteered to chair the next meeting :-P16:24
ahasenackhe liked it so much last week16:25
nacc*all* future meetings16:25
naccthat's what I heard16:25
ahasenacklinkedin skill16:25
slashdthanks guys I think that's it for the MIR16:25
* dpb1 ignores peanut gallery16:25
* ahasenack waits just to be sure16:25
dpb1lol16:25
ahasenack#link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-x-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server16:26
ahasenackx bugs16:26
ahasenackanything to highlight?16:26
slashdnot for me thanks16:27
ahasenack#topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (powersj)16:27
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powersjLast week I released the new cloud-init CI system and spent a good deal of time getting through cloud-init SRU verification, and ended week submitting 3x jenkins-launchpad-plugin merge requests16:27
powersjThis week already worked on cloud-init and curtin SRUs. Plan to do some KPI work, but squash day tomorrow, and get back to proposed testing later this week.16:27
powersjquestions?16:27
ahasenackbug squash I hope16:27
ahasenackdo you have a link to the announcement?16:28
powersjhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-server/2017-June/007551.html16:28
ahasenack#link https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-server/2017-June/007551.html16:28
ahasenackthx16:28
ahasenack#topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, sforshee)16:29
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smbNot much to report as I was mostly collar deep in sh..iny recovery work to have the problems caused by initial fixes for the kernel stackclash issue replaced by latest upstream versions. We are working hard to get this out as soon as possible but things take time.16:29
smbAre there questions otherwise?16:29
ahasenackthx smb16:29
ahasenack#topic Update on new Triage Process (cpaelzer)16:29
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ahasenackcpaelzer: anything to update?16:30
cpaelzer?16:30
cpaelzerwas that meant to cover the expiration bugs16:30
dpb1think so, yes16:30
cpaelzerI think so16:30
ahasenackI think just a general check point16:30
cpaelzerso I myselv covered 3 of them16:30
cpaelzerbut I saw some working on others16:30
cpaelzerto get a sane tracking please once you handled one please click the checkbox in16:30
cpaelzerhttps://trello.com/c/txK0T1is16:31
dpb1wow16:31
cpaelzerother than that - please at least on your triage duty day do 1-3 of them16:31
cpaelzeror we will carry them what feels like forever16:31
ahasenack#info when working on a bug from the backlog, please check https://trello.com/c/txK0T1is16:31
cpaelzerI can only ask you and try to go by example16:31
cpaelzerso for now - info "clearing backlog started, but progress is still too slow"16:32
ahasenack#info clearing backlog started, but progress is still too slow16:32
cpaelzeralso in case you ran out or are not in the mood for fixes on the bug squash - clearing those old things is bug squash as well16:32
ahasenackthe script listed this bug to me today:16:33
ahasenackBugs in backlog and not touched in 180 days16:33
ahasenackFound 1 bugs16:33
ahasenackLP: #1572132 - (New)            [samba]          - SMB driver (SMBv2) does not show all files when mounting a windows top level share16:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1572132 in samba (Ubuntu) "SMB driver (SMBv2) does not show all files when mounting a windows top level share" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157213216:33
ahasenackwould that be in that card?16:33
ahasenacka quick ctrl-f didn't find it16:33
nacci think the card is only the "old" old backlog16:34
naccas in our baseline of oldest bugs16:34
ahasenack>= 180?16:34
naccnot the ones that will occur (potentially) each day running the script after that first day we decided to16:34
dpb1ah, not the freshly-new-old bugs.16:34
nacccpaelzer: is that correct?16:34
naccdpb1: right, that's my thinking16:34
ahasenackok16:34
ahasenack#topic Upcoming Call For Papers16:35
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ahasenack#link https://lwn.net/Calendar/Monthly/cfp/16:35
ahasenackI added ZFS to the list:16:35
ahasenack#link http://www.open-zfs.org/wiki/OpenZFS_Developer_Summit16:35
ahasenackit's a two-day quickie16:35
ahasenackone day for presentations, the other day for a hackathon16:35
cpaelzernacc: correct16:36
cpaelzerthat is the very old backlog16:36
cpaelzersorry for the delay16:36
cpaelzerahasenack: don't run so fas16:36
cpaelzert16:36
ahasenackthis ain't dpb16:36
* cpaelzer misses the campfire16:36
ahasenackanything else for conferences?16:36
ahasenack#topic Ubuntu Server Team Events16:37
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ahasenackI don't think there is any coming up, other than the bug squashing day tomorrow16:37
ahasenack#topic Open Discussion16:38
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ahasenackanything someone wants to discuss?16:38
dpb1lots of things16:38
dpb1oh, you mean, with this crowd?16:38
ahasenackand work related16:38
dpb1no.16:38
ahasenack#topic Announce next meeting date, time and chair16:39
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powersjCan we skip next week or have cpaelzer run it due to a certain US holiday...16:39
ahasenackNext meeting Tuesday, 2017-07-04 at 1600 UTC, chair will be ... non-us?16:39
dpb1yes -- cpaelzer would be next on list16:39
ahasenack#info Next meeting Tuesday, 2017-07-04 at 1600 UTC, chair will be cpaelzer16:40
powersjdanke16:40
ahasenack#endmeeting16:40
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meetingologyMeeting ended Tue Jun 27 16:40:28 2017 UTC.16:40
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2017/ubuntu-meeting.2017-06-27-16.00.moin.txt16:40
ahasenacknow the hard hpart16:40
dpb1ahasenack: there is the moin link ^16:40
dpb1:)16:40
powersjahasenack: thanks for running!16:40
dpb1ahasenack: sending out that text slightly-edited as the email usually works.16:41
dpb1o/16:41
cpaelzerthanks ahasenack16:42
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