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| hehehe | faq | 01:51 |
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| hehehe | https://bubble.is/faq | 01:51 |
| sarnold | haha "built a twitter clone in four days" | 01:55 |
| hehehe | yes its possible | 01:58 |
| hehehe | do u have reasons to say otherwise? | 01:58 |
| hehehe | http://blog.appswithoutcode.com/2015/09/29/building-without-code-part-3-4/ | 01:59 |
| * hehehe sticks fork in developers ass | 01:59 | |
| hehehe | :) | 01:59 |
| hehehe | at last | 01:59 |
| hehehe | sarnold could it be that bubble currently is most powerful language? | 02:00 |
| hehehe | :)))) | 02:00 |
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| dpb1 | bash is of course the most powerful. | 02:43 |
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| waters33637_ | Question: Iinstalled ubuntu core on my pi .. then installed pinano ... when i try and use pinano to edit a file i get a permissions error .. even if i use sudo ...but vi workd fine ... what am i missing? | 04:25 |
| cpaelzer | good morning | 05:34 |
| lordievader | Good morning | 05:43 |
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| hehehe | lordievader: did u code in bubble? | 12:02 |
| lordievader | Bubbble? | 12:03 |
| lordievader | -b | 12:03 |
| hehehe | lordievader: yes bubble.is | 12:28 |
| hehehe | seems neat | 12:28 |
| lordievader | Blegh, point and click. Just give me vim. | 12:29 |
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| hehehe | lol vim | 12:36 |
| hehehe | its way more powerful | 12:37 |
| hehehe | it replaces all codoing | 12:37 |
| hehehe | its new way to code | 12:37 |
| Ussat | new way to code....um, sure | 12:46 |
| hehehe | yez | 12:48 |
| hehehe | so 0 need to tech founders | 12:49 |
| hehehe | they have some showcase sites | 12:49 |
| hehehe | I just saw it recently and its a thing | 12:49 |
| hehehe | plus their version is closed, soon maybe open source | 12:49 |
| hehehe | 'I use similar product and dev speed is fast | 12:50 |
| hehehe | current ways to code nowdays in fact soon to become hobby land | 12:50 |
| hehehe | at least in saas and apps arena | 12:51 |
| Ussat | um...sure | 12:52 |
| hehehe | Ussat: https://valuemyplace.co.uk/ | 13:01 |
| hehehe | bubble | 13:01 |
| hehehe | do u see any faults? | 13:01 |
| hehehe | i dont | 13:01 |
| hehehe | gosh people this is IT | 13:01 |
| lordievader | hehehe: No one is stopping you from coding in that language. Just don't think many programmers are waiting for a visual language. | 13:05 |
| cpaelzer | there might be many "people" waiting, but not who you'd already consider a classic programmer I'd think | 13:05 |
| cpaelzer | visual programming implies something visual - and working around ubuntu-server here most thinhs are not visual | 13:06 |
| cpaelzer | they are functional :-) | 13:06 |
| hehehe | u can drag and drop functionality | 13:07 |
| hehehe | visual building of logical network | 13:07 |
| cpaelzer | as a mindset: we took our interns the mouse away the first week to get them used to "the right way" | 13:07 |
| cpaelzer | damn touchscreens, can't take that away :-) | 13:08 |
| hehehe | cpaelzer: there are ways :) thats all | 13:08 |
| hehehe | whatever works | 13:08 |
| cpaelzer | ack on that | 13:08 |
| cpaelzer | different problems - different solutions | 13:08 |
| hehehe | first programming languages were made by geeks for geeks | 13:08 |
| hehehe | now there is new wave :D | 13:08 |
| hehehe | visual languages made by visually oriebted people | 13:11 |
| hehehe | and most humans think in images | 13:11 |
| hehehe | so its pretty logical evolutionary step | 13:11 |
| hehehe | *oriented | 13:11 |
| hehehe | find - can be magnifying loop icon , | can be pipe icon | 13:12 |
| hehehe | visually represented syntax | 13:12 |
| hehehe | and visual logic | 13:13 |
| cpaelzer | I'll wait for the visually oriented network driver then | 13:13 |
| lordievader | Oe, can you see the packets fly by? | 13:15 |
| lordievader | And wave at them? | 13:15 |
| hehehe | visual logic blocks | 13:17 |
| hehehe | behind drag and drop | 13:17 |
| zetheroo | How does /etc/mysql/debian.cnf get it's credentials? | 13:26 |
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| zetheroo | I am told that /etc/logrotate.d/mysql-server is a 'debian thing' ... well it's not working (in Ubuntu 16.04) | 13:39 |
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| rbasak | zetheroo: do you think it's a bug in Ubuntu 16.04 or a configuration issue. If you think it's a bug, is there a bug filed please? | 13:51 |
| rbasak | zetheroo: /etc/mysql/debian.cnf used to be written from the mysql-server-5.7.postinst. It may not be needed any more; I don't recall. | 13:52 |
| zetheroo | rbasak: I don't know what it is, except that I've been now to several channels and bascially am being sent around in a loop | 13:52 |
| rbasak | zetheroo: do you have steps to reproduce the problem? | 13:53 |
| zetheroo | yes, /etc/mysql/debian.cnf doesn't have the passwords in there but it also seems like it's not getting them automatically | 13:53 |
| zetheroo | and apparently one shouldn't edit it manually | 13:53 |
| rbasak | If you have steps to reproduce then please file a bug. | 13:54 |
| mdeslaur | cpaelzer: hi! do you have an exim4 merge planned soon? | 13:54 |
| zetheroo | I've just renamed the file /etc/logrotate.d/mysql-server so hopefully it will stop mucking about ... also with logs which don't exist | 13:55 |
| zetheroo | and then spamming messages like https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24962955/ | 13:55 |
| rbasak | root@localhost is supposed to use Unix domain socket authentication. Have you disabled that somehow? | 13:58 |
| zetheroo | rbasak: something about a socket rings a bell | 14:00 |
| zetheroo | where would that be set? | 14:00 |
| rbasak | Somewhere inside MySQL. I don't know the details, sorry. | 14:01 |
| rbasak | I believe there's a standard table or set of tables that control auth. | 14:01 |
| cpaelzer | mdeslaur: no | 14:04 |
| cpaelzer | mdeslaur: I thought we merged already this cycle | 14:05 |
| cpaelzer | mdeslaur: let me check brain vs fact | 14:05 |
| mdeslaur | cpaelzer: there was a security update | 14:05 |
| cpaelzer | ah no sorry, was not on my map | 14:05 |
| cpaelzer | considered it done for artful so far | 14:05 |
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| cpaelzer | so that sec stuff is in 4.89-3 ? | 14:06 |
| cpaelzer | mdeslaur: I'd volunteer, but I'm off tomorrow and kids are sick - so maybe not this time | 14:08 |
| mdeslaur | cpaelzer: ok, I'll handle it, just didn't want to step on your toes, thanks! | 14:09 |
| zetheroo | rbasak: apparently because I am using mariadb the authentication socket thing doesn't apply!? | 14:18 |
| rbasak | On 16.04? | 14:18 |
| zetheroo | yes | 14:18 |
| rbasak | You could have said that before :-/ | 14:19 |
| rbasak | Have you ever had MySQL installed on that system before? | 14:19 |
| zetheroo | might have initially had mysql installed ... can't be certain now | 14:20 |
| rbasak | There are known bugs in trying to switch between the two on the same system. | 14:20 |
| rbasak | Start by checking that /etc/mysql and /etc/logrotate.d/mysql-server and the init scripts match what you'd get installing MariaDB on a fresh 16.04 system. | 14:21 |
| rbasak | As for the database itself, that may need fixing up too, but I don't know how. MariaDB people may know better. | 14:21 |
| zetheroo | and what if I just deleted that /etc/logrotate.d/mysql-server file ... | 14:22 |
| rbasak | Then you wouldn't get log rotation and your disk will fill up in time. | 14:23 |
| zetheroo | alright, well I set the credentials manually in the debian.cnf file ... | 14:42 |
| zetheroo | will see if that worksover the next few days | 14:42 |
| cpaelzer | rbasak: nacc_: uh I just realized the libvirt git carries an empty directory | 14:42 |
| cpaelzer | I mean in git, not the tarball | 14:42 |
| cpaelzer | you might in regard to bug 1687057 want to check how they done that | 14:43 |
| ubottu | bug 1687057 in dgit (Debian) "git cannot represent empty directories by default" [Unknown,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1687057 | 14:43 |
| rbasak | cpaelzer: does it have a dotfile in it? | 14:44 |
| rbasak | cpaelzer: or is it perhaps created by the build system and then .gitignored? | 14:44 |
| cpaelzer | rbasak: no dotfile and it is present right after git clone | 14:44 |
| cpaelzer | which is what made me realize it might be interesting | 14:44 |
| rbasak | cpaelzer: clone URL please? | 14:44 |
| cpaelzer | rbasak: git://libvirt.org/libvirt.git | 14:45 |
| rbasak | thanks | 14:45 |
| cpaelzer | it might be related to .gitmodules | 14:45 |
| cpaelzer | there is a submodule reffing to that path | 14:45 |
| cpaelzer | but then if that is "a trick" to store an empty dir we might as well generate that | 14:45 |
| cpaelzer | please have a look, I hope it inspires new ideas | 14:45 |
| cpaelzer | rbasak: also did you see on -devel there is actually a solution to the package version question I had | 14:47 |
| cpaelzer | via dh_gencontrol -- -v | 14:48 |
| cpaelzer | just FYI | 14:48 |
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| emora | Running 4.3.11 on Ubuntu Server 16.04. I have poor performance with high iowait. dmbd will often be >90% with very high %util on disk device. System iowait reaches averages of 20 or 30% regularly. | 15:29 |
| emora | Disk transfer rates are very good. | 15:29 |
| emora | Any suggestions on what could be causing it to block and wait? | 15:29 |
| nacc | emora: that's not an ubuntu kernel | 15:29 |
| emora | The machine has a Supermicro AOC LSI 3108 RAID controller | 15:30 |
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| emora | Its ubuntu server 16.04 - Build host: Linux lgw01-50 4.4.0-78-generic #99-Ubuntu SMP Thu Apr 27 15:29:09 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux | 15:30 |
| nacc | emora: then why did you say 4.3.11? | 15:30 |
| nacc | emora: wait, that's the build host, not your host. | 15:31 |
| emora | Sorry, meant to say Samba 4.3.11 | 15:31 |
| emora | uname -a = 4.4.0-78-generic #99-Ubuntu SMP Thu Apr 27 15:29:09 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux | 15:31 |
| emora | disk performance seems very unstable | 15:35 |
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| emora | a dd with a block size of 1G will show anything from 350 to 800 MB/s | 15:36 |
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| emora | hdparm 8060.38 MB/sec cached and 821.66 MB/sec buffered | 15:37 |
| emora | network throughput (measured with iperf) hits 45 Gbps | 15:39 |
| emora | The high iowait and high %util on the block devices makes me think it's disk related | 15:40 |
| emora | any suggestions? | 15:40 |
| emora | aside from system (kworker) the only process that shows io latency is smbd | 15:41 |
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| nacc | rbasak: the src:git error is a pristine-tar failure. So it's blocked by that (reproduces with just pristine-tar in my new branch as well). LP: #1699887 | 16:28 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1699887 in usd-importer "src:git fails to import due to `gbp import-orig` failure" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1699887 | 16:28 |
| rbasak | Interesting. Thanks! | 16:32 |
| nacc | rbasak: i've filed a bug (linked there) with debian already, just waiting to hear back | 16:35 |
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| redvic | greetings, | 19:05 |
| redvic | firefox and chrome have declared localhost insecure and not encrypted thus can not access cups please help | 19:05 |
| nacc | redvic: are you trying to navigate to https://localhost:631 ? | 19:09 |
| nacc | redvic: as opposed to http://localhost:631 | 19:09 |
| redvic | nacc, just localhost I will try with https | 19:12 |
| nacc | redvic: well, i was just checking, here on 17.10 on my laptop, i'm able to navigate to http://localhost:631 without warning and https: prompts correctly that it can't verify the cert | 19:13 |
| nacc | redvic: works in both firefox and chrome. | 19:13 |
| redvic | nacc, if i use https it works asks for security exception but at least it works http fails | 19:15 |
| nacc | redvic: what version of ubuntu? | 19:15 |
| redvic | 16.04 LTS I only use LTS | 19:15 |
| dpb1 | we don't trust the snakeoil cert by default. this is expected | 19:15 |
| dpb1 | ? | 19:15 |
| Poster | afaik it is just a self signed certificate to get you started | 19:16 |
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| nacc | redvic: ok, let me see if i can reproduce it | 19:36 |
| nacc | redvic: in a 16.04 VM, http://localhost:631 works fine | 19:38 |
| nacc | redvic: in FF. Can you take a screenshot? | 19:38 |
| redvic | nacc, i am new to irc can you explain FF | 19:40 |
| nacc | redvic: Firefox | 19:40 |
| redvic | nacc, oh ok where do I send the screenshot? | 19:43 |
| nacc | !imgur | redvic | 19:43 |
| nacc | !screenshots | redvic | 19:44 |
| ubottu | redvic: Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imgur.com/ and link the created page here. | 19:44 |
| redvic | ubottu, thx screen shot no prop easy to do, like i said new to irc | 19:45 |
| ubottu | redvic: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 19:45 |
| redvic | nacc, http://imgur.com/a/VyEK7 | 19:49 |
| redvic | nacc, did you check? | 20:03 |
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| hehehe | hi | 20:30 |
| hehehe | is it wise to conf server to auto update? | 20:31 |
| hehehe | I dont want to upgrade from 16 to 17 but update | 20:31 |
| hehehe | for security | 20:31 |
| nacc | redvic: looking, sorry was away from keyboard | 20:35 |
| nacc | hehehe: auto update? as in `sudo apt update`? That won't upgrade any packages, just cahnges the package list locally | 20:36 |
| nacc | redvic: hrm, that's not a security emssage | 20:38 |
| nacc | redvic: it says there is no webserver listening on 631 | 20:38 |
| dpb1 | hehehe: I recommend auto-updating, yes | 20:38 |
| dpb1 | hehehe: it's the reason we have it on by default in 16.04 new installs | 20:38 |
| hehehe | dpb1: nice | 20:48 |
| hehehe | how I can check if its enabled by default on mine? | 20:48 |
| hehehe | just to be 100% sure | 20:49 |
| dpb1 | sudo dpkg-reconfigure unattended-upgrades | 20:50 |
| hehehe | ty | 20:51 |
| hehehe | and is there a way similar to somehow detect dodgy things like keyloggers | 20:51 |
| hehehe | *a way to | 20:52 |
| redvic | nacc, thanks alot | 21:13 |
| nacc | redvic: did you figure it out? | 21:14 |
| hallyn | kirkland: where should one file bugs against manpages.ubuntu.com? | 21:22 |
| kirkland | hallyn: bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manpage-repository | 21:22 |
| hallyn | cool thx | 21:23 |
| hallyn | (cf bug 1700812) | 21:23 |
| ubottu | bug 1700812 in libcap2 (Ubuntu) "pam_cap is provided by the libpam-cap package on x86_64 xenial" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1700812 | 21:23 |
| hallyn | linked | 21:24 |
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